Deebo & Joe react to Steelers hiring Mike McCarthy!? + Seahawks & Patriots advance to SB LX

26 Jan 2026 · 1 h · 27 chapters

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Nightcap Podcast Episode Summary

Podcast Overview Title: Nightcap Description: Nightcap is a nighttime sports talk podcast hosted by Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, focusing on unfiltered reactions to NFL, NBA, and college football headlines.

Episode Details Title: Deebo & Joe react to Steelers hiring Mike McCarthy!? + Seahawks & Patriots advance to SB LX Description: NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden discuss the NFL Conference Playoff Championship Round where the Seattle Seahawks beat the Los Angeles Rams, and the New England Patriots defeated the Denver Broncos, both teams advancing to Super Bowl LX. They also react to the Pittsburgh Steelers hiring Mike McCarthy as their new head coach.

Episode Timeline

  • 00:00 - Intro
  • 02:24 - Steelers Hire Mike McCarthy
  • 21:20 - Patriots Beat Broncos
  • 46:50 - Rams Beat Seahawks

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Key Discussions

Steelers Hire Mike McCarthy

  • Joe Haden's Reaction:
  • Mixed feelings about McCarthy’s hire.
  • Acknowledges McCarthy as a capable coach but questions the decision to hire an older coach instead of a younger one for a new era.
  • Expresses disappointment in the Steelers' lack of a bold move, suggesting they missed an opportunity for a real turnaround.
  • James Harrison's Insights:
  • Feels disappointment as well; sees the hire as a “safe play” that lacks the necessary vision for the future.
  • Reflects on past leadership and suggests that the current management may not have the same insight as previous leadership.
  • Discusses the need for a younger coach to foster a long-term vision for the team.
  • Both Hosts' Conclusions:
  • Both are cautiously optimistic but recognize the challenges ahead.
  • Discussion on the importance of building support staff and developing a cohesive plan for the future.

Patriots vs. Broncos Game Recap

  • Game Overview:
  • Patriots win 10-7 in a defensive battle.
  • Notable plays include a strong performance from the Patriots' defense and critical mistakes from the Broncos’ offense, particularly quarterback Jarrett Stidham.
  • Key Moments:
  • Missed opportunities by Broncos, including a critical fourth-down decision not to kick a field goal when ahead.
  • Discussion on the weather conditions affecting gameplay, emphasizing how crucial every possession was in such conditions.
  • Coaching Decisions:
  • Disagreement on critical fourth-down decisions and playcalling.
  • Emphasis on the importance of securing points in playoff games.

Seahawks vs. Rams Game Recap

  • Game Overview:
  • Seahawks win 31-27, showcasing strong performances by Sam Darnold and the Seahawks defense.
  • Emphasis on the impact of turnovers, particularly on special teams.
  • Player Highlights:
  • Darnold’s impressive stats and performance against the Rams’ defense.
  • Mention of key Seahawks players, including JSN and Walker.
  • Coaching Insights:
  • Effective coaching strategies that led to the Seahawks' success.
  • Questions were raised about the Rams' special teams and their execution.

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Conclusion

  • Final Thoughts:
  • Both hosts express excitement for the upcoming Super Bowl LX.
  • Acknowledgment of the dynamic nature of playoff football and the implications of coaching decisions on team performance.

Key Takeaways

  • The hiring of Mike McCarthy by the Steelers raises questions about the team's direction and vision.
  • The Patriots' victory highlighted the significance of making the right decisions in playoff games, especially regarding scoring opportunities.
  • The Seahawks demonstrate a strong team dynamic and effective coaching, leading to their advance in the playoffs.

Call to Action

  • Encouragement for listeners to subscribe and stay tuned for more insights and reactions as the playoff season continues.

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Chapters

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Snowed In: Personal Experiences

4:00 to 6:00

Deebo and Joe share their experiences being snowed in during a storm.

“I got snowed in at the in-laws crib, so I'm down.”

Steelers Hire Mike McCarthy Reaction

6:00 to 8:20

Deebo and Joe discuss the Steelers' controversial decision to hire Mike McCarthy.

“I got a lot of different emotions about it.”

Reflections on Coaching Choices

8:20 to 14:11

The hosts analyze the implications of hiring older coaches and the future of the Steelers.

“You know, you take your time, Debo, because I know you got a lot of feelings.”

Analyzing the Steelers' Coaching Decision

14:11 to 16:50

Discussion on the implications of hiring Mike McCarthy as the Steelers' head coach.

“is a situation where I'm just trying to be positive about maybe he's coming in as a four or five year guy.”

Evaluating Aaron Rodgers' Future

16:51 to 18:29

Exploration of whether Aaron Rodgers should return to the Steelers and its impact.

“So I'm just not seeing that with why they would bring in Mike McCarthy to Pittsburgh after Mike Tomlin just left.”

The Importance of a Young Coach

18:30 to 20:09

Debate on the need for a younger head coach versus a seasoned one like McCarthy.

“And I think when you say out of fear, too, what people are realizing when Mr.”

Mike McCarthy's Coaching Career

20:10 to 20:45

Discussion on McCarthy's previous coaching success and challenges faced with the Steelers.

“uh with uh hell with Mike he had been from 2007 until what 18 19 whatever it was now you go to Dallas he got he got Dak over there Dak was already Dak you know what I'm saying And so, like, he has to build.”

Expectations for Mike McCarthy

25:00 to 28:00

Discussion on what to expect from McCarthy as the new coach and the team's future.

“It was time actually before that to actually start to look for somebody to replace.”

Support for Franchise Quarterbacks

28:00 to 28:40

Discussion on the importance of supporting franchise quarterbacks and expectations from the organization.

“positional uh franchise quarterbacks and right now uh we're gonna see if he can if he can get that done yep but uh we got to give him some support and uh i'm here hoping for the best wishing for the way.”

Recap of Recent Football Playoff Games

28:40 to 29:50

Analysis of the recent football playoff games, focusing on the Patriots and Broncos match-up.

“Let's get over to these good football playoff games that we had.”
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Game Tactics and Defensive Strategies

29:50 to 31:00

Detailed breakdown of game tactics and defensive strategies during the Patriots vs. Broncos game.

“That's probably why they were slipping out there.”

Key Plays and Player Performances

31:00 to 32:05

Review of key plays and standout performances from players during the game.

“Hey, first down, we get five with Stevenson.”

Miscommunication and Defensive Errors

32:05 to 33:10

Discussion on miscommunication and defensive errors leading to scoring opportunities.

“I think he could have scored on that one, though.”

Offensive Struggles and Turnovers

33:10 to 34:20

Insight into offensive struggles, turnovers, and their impact on the game.

“high to low it was just definitely bad eyes because once he started running, they were late to get to wherever they needed to be.”

Coaching Decisions and Game Management

34:20 to 35:20

Analysis of coaching decisions and game management that influenced the outcome.

“Like, he just shook, oh boy, in the backfield.”

Halftime Adjustments and Strategies

35:20 to 36:40

Examination of halftime adjustments and strategies for the second half of the game.

“They end up putting it right back over to him.”

Key Moments and Momentum Shifts

36:40 to 37:50

Highlighting key moments and momentum shifts that defined the game's trajectory.

“Stidham was driving it, making some good passes, started getting a little cocky, started getting a little confident.”

Late Game Pressure and Final Plays

37:50 to 39:40

Discussion on late game pressure and crucial final plays that decided the outcome.

“That's what I was looking at like oh oh he's going gusto.”

Game Analysis: Missed Opportunities

42:02 to 43:30

Discussing key moments from the game, including missed field goals and critical plays.

“And then Goalshead, they start the third.”

Pats' Dominance in the Third Quarter

43:30 to 45:12

Examining the Patriots' ball control and strategy in the third quarter.

“Denver get out there and the Pats say, ah-ah, get a body.”

Defensive Strategies in Bad Weather

45:12 to 47:51

Analyzing how weather conditions affected defensive strategies and gameplay.

“And he, hey, he ain't in his bag no more.”

Late Game Decisions and Mistakes

51:06 to 56:00

Discussing critical late-game decisions and mistakes that impacted the outcome.

“Now, the first down, they get the ball and the running back slips.”

Playoff Strategy: The Importance of Scoring

56:00 to 58:00

Discussing the criticality of scoring in playoff games and managing the game clock.

“Like, you're fighting to go to the Super Bowl, buddy, and you up here doing that?”

Analyzing Seahawks vs. Rams Performance

58:00 to 1:02:20

A deep dive into the performances of the Seahawks and Rams in their recent match.

“But the biggest thing to me was Sean Payton not kicking that field goal right there on that fourth down.”

The Role of Special Teams and Key Players

1:02:20 to 1:04:20

Highlighting the impact of special teams and standout players like Sam Darnold.

“So Patriots versus the Seahawks in the championship, you going to Seattle.”

Coaching Changes and Future Outlook

1:04:20 to 1:10:00

Discussion on Mike McCarthy's hiring and what it means for the team's future.

“If Buddy did this, if Buddy did that, it's a team game.”

Debate on Mike McCarthy's Greatness

1:10:00 to 1:11:33

The hosts discuss whether Mike McCarthy's lack of losing seasons establishes him as the greatest coach.

“Why do I need to keep seeing these guys that beat us on my team?”
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3:29Welcome back to this episode of Deebo and Joe. I'm your host, Dan James. Sorry, James Deebo Harrison. The braces be killing me. I'm here with my host, Joe Hayden. Yes, sir. Make sure you like and subscribe and download wherever you get your podcast. Joe. What's up, brother? How you doing today, baby? Man, I'm doing great today, Debo. Honestly, though, we got snowed in. That snowstorm happened. It was a little bit less snow than I expected, but that's why I'm in a different spot. I got snowed in at the in-laws crib, so I'm down. Oh, you got snowed in. I'm snowed in right now. Y 'all know nothing about how to deal with snow around that way, man.

4:09Listen, bro. I embrace the snow. I had to snow blow my driveway both times, bro. Just to keep up, bro. I think we got about 12 inches, bro. Like, I'd get done. As soon as I got done, I'd be back out there two hours later. As soon as I got done, it'd be already an inch. Yeah, you was doing a good job, man. I went and tried to get that electrical joint. So I was watching my neighbor across the street. Oh, I went and got full. I had full gas. Full gas. Yeah, full of grass, man. I wouldn't hit my neighbor next door on the left and the right. You know what I'm saying? Good Samaritan, Deebo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

4:52I had to do the lady on the right. She a little older. Her and her husband, they a little older. But, you know, I guess that's something that I would want to have done if my mom or dad, if he was still around, was in the same situation. so I went on ahead and did that even though I ain't gonna lie I'm not too I'm not too fond of him but you know my neighbor to the left he good dude so he good people so you gotta yeah he good people yeah yeah for sure for sure for sure look here man everybody take care of everybody you know do on to others as you would have others do on to you right make it the world just to such a better place D-Bo that's what I live by no question man look here brother the Steelers done hired oh Mike McCarthy.

5:42I guess it's the, what, fourth coach since 1969. Joe. Yeah. How do you? It looked like they hired him before you could get there to do your interview. You didn't even get to do your interview. That's crazy, right? That's wild. Right, that's wild. That's moving. How do you feel about this hire, Joe? I got a lot of different emotions about it. So let me preface my comments by first saying, I don't think Mike McCarthy's a bad coach. Do you know what I'm saying? But in the particular situation of the Pittsburgh Steelers and what we're looking to do, moving forward from Mike Tomlin stepping down and it being a new time, me looking for a new regime, him coming in is just so similar.

6:33and he's older. He's 63 years old. I'm thinking that we're trying to get a coach that we're going to have for the next at least 20 years. When we get him, I'm like, okay, he was with A-Rod back in Green Bay a long time ago. A-Rod was four, I'm talking about four MVP A-Rod, not just normal A-Rod, with Devontae Adams. You know what I'm saying? With that offense, with he had Jordy Nelson, with nice receivers out there being able to do what he had to do. He still came up with one Super Bowl in Aaron Rodgers' heyday when he was the best version of himself. So now I'm like not trying to knock it. If we want to have him come in and do it with a young quarterback and you think he wants to breed him, what he did with Dak Prescott, his offenses have always been pretty good.

7:15So I'm not knocking the coaching situation. But if you're the Steelers and I'm wanting to move forward, I'm wanting to come with a younger guy that's coming to bring a whole different vibe. Because the fan base, I feel like they were ready. They were ready for a real turnaround, a real move. but this looks real parallel. It doesn't look like a move where it's like a new reset. It looks like kind of, ah, just normal. So, and when this comes, now I can't blame Coach T. I can't blame, I don't know, Omar. It's like, who did these, who did the move? You know what I'm saying? So that's why I'm looking at it like, Debo, I mean, it looks like the Rooney, he must have, he made this pick.

7:56It just looks like status quo. He just seems like he just doesn't want to shake the boat too much. When I think right now was the time. It was time to shake the boat and go get you a young head coach and then get you an offensive coordinator, you know what I'm saying, then make some real moves. I think this was more parallel than what we needed to do. How do you feel, Debo?

8:21I'm surprised. Okay. I'm disappointed. Nah. Let me take that. You know, you take your time, Debo, because I know you got a lot of feelings. Take your time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not –

8:39I don't dislike it, but I also don't like it. So, you know, I guess I am disappointed. It definitely – I definitely wasn't expecting him to be the next head coach, especially with the last three hirings. we done had since what 69. Yes. So like the only thing I could think is it was the safe play. Like you said, he is a good coach, you know, he's proven, you know, but like, I'm wide, like I'm with you. I'm like, why safe? So I go, I go back and I look at it, bro. And when I look at it, you know, since our last was the two hirings that we had which was bill cowher and mike tomlin mr rooney was was that was around heavily involved and i believe he had a greater understanding you know of you know what was needed you know what i'm saying i'm talking about you know mr rooney dan yes you know former ambassador and he had a greater understanding i believe of what was needed because i believe he learned everything that he needed under his dad the chief you know what i'm saying and he soaked that up and right now we don't have anyone there that was really greatly involved in those last two hirings and you add that with the fact that they were definitely caught off guard by coach T stepping down like and you know you heard him himself he was he was you know looking to run it back maybe next year and then through the process so I think you know a little panic set in and they ended up going with the safe choice.

10:43And I think that's part of the reason why we held on to Mike for so long is because it was the safe choice. You know, we know we're going to be in contention for at least, you know, a winning record and a playoff berth, but that's not the standard of the Pittsburgh Steelers, bro. Yeah. And I feel like that's what it has become right now. And we're so afraid, dude, of that rebuild work that we're doing anything in our power so that we don't have to look like that or look like we're doing that. Now, again, if you go back to when Coward was hired and you look, we did a rebuild, but they didn't call it a rebuild.

11:37So from 98 to 2000, we had consecutive losing seasons. 97 was the last season we had that was a winning season until 2001. OK. And between that. Those season, it was an internal rebuild by Bill and Mr. Rooney saw that. And in 2000, when everybody was calling for Mr. Rooney to get rid of Bill, he said no, because he saw the vision. And in 2001, they ended up going 13 and three. Okay. And that process from 97, where they had a winning record until their next winning record in 2000, the starting offense only had three players that was on that roster from 97 to 2001 when they had their next one. And then the defense only had two players.

12:45So that was an internal rebuild, but they didn't say it out loud as a rebuild. Okay. And that's what he did. That's what Coach Tomlin, I mean, sorry, that's what Coach Coward did in those years between that 98 to 2000 timeframe. Okay. Now in that same process, they changed coaches. You look at 1995, Dick LeBow was the DC in 95 and 96. Then he went to Cincinnati and he was a head coach. Okay. Then in 2004, Coach LeBow ended up leaving Cincinnati or was, got fired, whatever it was. And Bill ended up bringing him back. as DC in 2004. Now in that same process of changing those players, it was coaches in and out too.

13:35And Bill was getting coaches that he felt were going to be better for the team. He was getting players that he thought was going to be better for the team and did an internal rebuild. Now, 2004, we went 15 and one and then won the Superbowl the next year. 2007 came, they hired coach they hired they hired mike okay and he won in 2008 won a championship and then went again in 2010 okay now like that was a rebuild bro and i would have liked i'm like you i would have liked to see someone younger that came up you know i'm saying maybe you know this is a situation where I'm just trying to be positive about maybe he's coming in as a four or five year guy.

14:27Maybe he's hiring a great staff. Maybe the OC or DC is going to be one of those people that could eventually step in, hoping that everything goes well. With him being the coach... I can see what you're saying. Go ahead. Because I can see what you're saying about him being like a middle man. Like the Coach T firing kind of shocked him. You know what I'm saying? It was just a little too quick. Like stop. Wasn't ready. Just like a little gap in between person where he can come, be the head coach, and then also while he's here, bring in a great staff. Like being able to get the offense right, being able to get a great defensive coordinator.

15:10But in long terms, hopefully like the offensive coordinator that we picked that's nice is going to be able to come and get him out of there. You know what I'm saying? Because I just don't see him as a long-term fix. Oh, I don't. Do you think that this hiring had something to do with possibly them wanting to try and make sure or have a more likelihood of Aaron coming back? Would you want him back? Would you want him to stay? Would you want him to not come back? How would you feel about that? I wouldn't want the Steelers to have to depend on, I love Aaron Rodgers, he's a great player, but I'm not thinking that McCarthy and A-Rod is not 2010.

15:48It's not 2012. It's not 10 years ago. If this was 10 years ago, I'd be all in for it. You know what I'm saying? A-Rod is just not the same as he was. And McCarthy, if we wanted to bring him in, I hope it's just not for A-Rod. I hope it's a way bigger picture of bringing in offense, defense, and just the whole way that he's built. You know what I'm saying? If it's just for A-Rod, that's going to be a one-year thing. and I'm hoping that they didn't get the head coach, depending on a one-year, 42-year-old quarterback, that they did things back in the day and were able to get one Super Bowl when he was A-Rod, when he was that man.

16:22He was the best player in the NFL. You know what I'm saying? So I would hope that they didn't make that pool just for A-Rod, but I don't want to disrespect Mike McCarthy because he is a good coach, a great mind. He's won Super Bowls. His teams don't lose. When he was with Dallas, Dak looked nice, but they still didn't get over the hump. If they did all of that that he did with Pittsburgh, we would still be looking at him like Mike Tomlin, like, oh, you made it all the way there. That's not good enough. We didn't win a ship. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just not seeing that with why they would bring in Mike McCarthy to Pittsburgh after Mike Tomlin just left.

16:58I ain't going to lie to you, bro. Like I said, I like Aaron. I think Aaron's a good quarterback. I've credited him with us having the season that we had. Without him, we wouldn't have it. But I just don't want him back. I don't want him back because we need to be able to move on. And it really depends on what Will Howard can do, if he can actually do it. You know, I unless there's a reason we haven't seen him that we don't know about because maybe he can't do it or like that. That's the case. Why is he still there? I don't I don't know. But unless we get to the point to where we can actually get a franchise quarterback, we're going to be in the same position, picking middle of the pack, especially if we bring Aaron back because he has the capabilities to be able to keep us in contention when maybe without, definitely without him, we wouldn't be.

18:00You know what I'm saying? And if the fact was like we wanted an offensive minded coach because McCarthy is that dude, why didn't we just wait? Shula is sitting there right now. Yes, yes. He would have been done today. He is young. We would have had what we wanted the future and we could have built or he could have built what he wanted and got what he needed. But, dude, we are so afraid of that rebuilt word that we made a snap decision out of fear, bro. That's what I believe, bro. Yeah. And I think when you say out of fear, too, what people are realizing when Mr. Rooney said he was surprised by Coach Tomlin stepping off, he wasn't ready to be looking to hire another coach.

18:45So the status quo of everybody saying, like, oh, no, we need to move on with Coach T, Rooney wasn't there yet. He wasn't trying to move on with Coach T. He was still chilling. He wasn't too mad at the way things were going. Like, all right, we're going to be able to figure it out. But, like, I'm loving the ship. I like where our coach is. When you get surprised and now you're ready to go hire something young, new, different, ah, Mike McCarthy looks like Coach T. Okay. Just comfortable. You know what I'm saying? Like, he didn't fire Coach Tomlin and then go hire Mike McCarthy. Coach T stepped off on him.

19:17So he's like, oh, man. Like, I wasn't ready for this. And then it's just like a comfortable pick instead of being like, no, no. In my opinion, it's ready. The Steelers fans, I know based on everybody I'm seeing, was ready to go get somebody young ready to like a new head coach. Yeah, I see the chat. They're saying they're the same person and all that, just different. Like, I really understand what y 'all are saying. I understand your memes, all that stuff. But, yeah, okay. let's just say Tomlin and McCarthy are the same guys okay on paper when you look at it it's the same guys the big difference is Mike Tomlin never had a losing season and all the other stuff McCarthy has what he's he's been the head coach of what Green Bay and Dallas right yep those are two franchises that already had their quarterbacks there bro oh yeah Aaron was there 2005 to 21 22 uh with uh hell with Mike he had been from 2007 until what 18 19 whatever it was now you go to Dallas he got he got Dak over there Dak was already Dak you know what I'm saying And so, like, he has to build.

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25:08Okay? And he had the opportunity to try and rebuild that and get it up. And he didn't. And with McCarthy, he hasn't had to rebuild from scratch. Yeah. so he's that he's like he's right so and you know yes he's older you know he hasn't had the opportunity to do it but can he do it he's older um and like i understand that but can he still relate to the players if he can still relate to the players and do everything is necessary to understand and and read it and gain the respect of the players and build a staff that is conducive to getting done that we need done, then that's great, man. Hiring people that's going to teach and lead and guide and make sure they're doing what they need to do.

26:06That's not an issue. Nobody said Andy Reid was too old. Nobody said Bill Belichick was too old. I'm here to say I understand. I feel the same way. But let's give the man a chance. For sure. I'm not saying he's too old either. 63 is no John Harbaugh is 63 years old they the same age so it's not like not like that's like he's like crazy but I'm just saying if you want to have a coach I'm just thinking with younger energy period and a 20 year stint I'm not thinking he's going to be coaching until he's 83 you know what I'm saying like that that might be a stretch yeah I mean I don't I don't I don't know we'll I mean we'll we definitely go see we're going to see but to say I'm surprised.

26:52I am definitely surprised. I'm hoping it works out. I'm hoping this thing where it's a short term, it's a step in. It's a filler for who may hopefully be the next coming. But if he's great, all this stuff goes out the window. For sure. I'm praying for the best, but if you ask me whether I'm surprised, yes. Yeah. I was definitely a little A lot of surprise. Yeah. I ain't going to lie. I'm looking forward to actually meeting him and seeing, chopping it up and going from there. Like I said, I don't dislike it. I don't like it. I'm just surprised. It's a safe. It's a safe pick. You got somebody that's there.

27:46That's what it seems like to me right now. basically we exchanging one for the other we just got to see what he can do as far as building because he's never had an opportunity to actually build he came in with you know ready-made positional uh franchise quarterbacks and right now uh we're gonna see if he can if he can get that done yep but uh we got to give him some support and uh i'm here hoping for the best wishing for the way. That's our guy now, right? That's our guy. That's our guy. That's right. we're going to stick with him. That's our guy. We're going to see. We're going to have to roll with it until it don't roll.

28:30And hopefully we're able as an organization to see that it either is rolling or isn't rolling and make the appropriate steps necessary when it's necessary. Yes. Let's get on over here, brother. Let's get over to these good football playoff games that we had. Let's get to these good football games that we had, man. The good one, man. The Patriots, baby. And the Broncos. 10-7. That's a fight, baby. That's a fight. It went They talking about, man, listen, man. They don't even know what a good game is. They're a boring game. No. I'm going to tell you that. That game at the end, that was wet. That weather got terrible.

29:13You know when you say it doesn't look bad. I don't care about the weather, man. That game could have been in Foxboro, baby, if they had beat the Raiders at the beginning of the year. That would have been a horrible game right there. I can't believe that. That's a defense. I love that game as a DB. As a DB. That's the easiest game to play in. Just keep your feet. You need to wear seven stud cleats. Seven studs. You got to stack them. You got to stack them with the studs. Them dudes, they always trying to wear them cool little cleats. And they was looking at me, OG, you still wearing them seven studs?

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29:46Yes, I'm not going to fall. It's that time of the year. What are you talking about, son? What are you talking about? Stud only. Only seven studs. That's probably why they were slipping out there. Exactly. They had on them cool cleats with no seven studs. I was like, no. Everybody got to put on studs. Man, look here, man. I'm going to give y 'all how this game went. We're going to give y 'all how this game went, man. Denver start off with the Rock. The pass defense come out there hot, hot, hot. First down, they stop Harvey for one. Second down, he ain't getting Nathan. Third down, they ran up on that man and almost sacked Fumble.

30:19Almost strip sacked him. Almost sacked Fumble. If he had just held on to it for a little longer, he was doing a little bit too much. He was doing a little too much. Throw the ball away. Throw the ball away, son. And then they punt the rock over. And, bruh, this damn punter over there in Denver, he's nasty. He throwing with his leg. Boy throwing with his leg. Yes. He going, he pin us. The eight-yard line. Us. Oh. So you going to go ahead. Okay. Us. Us at the eight. I thought they were going to win. I thought they were going to win. You pin us at the eight. Soon they get the winner. Hey, first down, we get five with Stevenson.

31:09Okay. Second down, he pick up one more. Okay. Fourth down, May. is almost picked. Yes, but Diggs played some good defense. He was able to knock the ball out of his hand. Good play by Diggs. We punt the ball. We punt the ball. And my guy, schooler, do what he do. He did it all game. That was a one-yard law. That was a one-yard law. Okay? The enemy get the ball. Denver, That's my enemy now. Let me stop playing with you. David get the ball. First down. Oh, dude, he scrambled up out of a sack. Make a good pass. I think it was to Harvey, but it was incomplete. It didn't even matter if he did catch it.

31:59I think it was an illegal touch. An illegal touch. He went out of bounds. Yeah. Yeah. Second down. Dude dropped the screen. I think he could have scored on that one, though. Mm-hmm. He threw a bad pass. Yeah, they ended up getting the third and 10. Boy. And he hits Mims. Whoa. That's what I'm talking about. That's what the chance. Look, Stidham at the beginning of that game, that's versus Gonzalez. It looked like a little miscommunication. What happened, Joe? He was chilling. It looked like a cover four. He was going to have the safety, but the safety was looking to steal something from the other side.

32:29And I'm like, it just looked like him. Because Gonzalez, he's not chilling like that for no reason. I think he's expecting somebody to have his top. So he went up there and he got beat. Now you can't have that. 52 yards, brother. first down for was it first and goal at the seven they tried a little trickery with was it Bryant he should have got dropped for a loss but he ended up scrambling for a hot yard second down what happened there Joe what's going on what happened that's the same thing this miscommunication we having bad eyes we gotta know who has who I'm thinking that the corner might have the flat and the safety might have the top but then you gotta play high to low it was just definitely bad eyes because once he started running, they were late to get to wherever they needed to be.

33:17So I don't know who had who right there, but it was a miscommunication. Yeah, six yard touchdown to Sutton. Sutton, sorry, Sutton. 7-0. Pats get the ball back. First down. May goes to Diggs for a hot little six. I think second down. Stevenson picked up three. They had third and one. Stevenson goes, picks up the other one. It's first down. I think they... They went first down a now to – what was 13 doing, bro? He ain't block a soul. They talking about dude made a gate – like, dude, 13 didn't block a soul. Not yet. He didn't even touch that man. He dropped him for a two-yard loss. I think it was second down, they went up there to booty.

34:00And Sertan, dude, he could – if he had – he could have had that. Nice try, wrong guy. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he was all over that. third and 12 I think it was what was it that bullshit cut block almost got May's back blew out bro the line the tackle the Koopa looking weak just trying to dive for my man legs that's lazy blocking that's lazy blocking bro like Diggs gets to the hot little three they can't get nowhere they end up punting the ball Denver gets the rock back. I think first down, Harvey shook. Like, he just shook, oh boy, in the backfield. That should have been a drop for a loss. He gets nine on there.

34:54Second down, he passed it to Brian. He picked up the little two for the first down. Ended up getting to second. And Harvey, he picked up the what? I said the two for the first down, right? Yeah. So the Pats then, they're able to hold him to, I think it was like one yard on the first down. And then, was it the second? Second down was when a dude dropped it. Sutton dropped that one. Yes. Right. Okay. Third down, nothing. They end up putting it right back over to him. Pats get the rock. First down. Henderson, four yards. second down made his sack. Like, yes. Bruh, that was a smart decision. That was a great play by the DN.

35:48I know, but that was a smart decision because I saw him thinking about trying to throw that thing and compounding, you know, the issue instead of just taking the sack. You know, third down, didn't matter. They ended up punting the rock over. Denver get the rock back. first down was in McLaughlin. He ran for a high three and then, um, Stedham, he hits Ingram for seven in the first down short pass to McLaughlin for two McLaughlin for two second down. I think it was a five yard pass to sudden they get to third and three. He had a nice little pass right there. Like he was feeling this. He was feeling this.

36:31That's where the coach started. But this one I'm trying to tell you too. You got to – did the coach watch the weather report? You know what I'm saying? Did the coach watch the weather report? He started feeling too confident. Stidham was driving it, making some good passes, started getting a little cocky, started getting a little confident. That's what I'm looking at it like, Debo, in my eyes. Yeah. They hand the ball to Harvey on the next play. He went for nine. I think the fullback picked up three on the next one for the first down. Then it was Harvey again for three, second down. They hit them all angles.

37:03He goes and scrambles up out of that thing. I don't know how he scrambled up out of there. He got like a hot, and I think it was a two yard, something like that. Third down, though. They start blitzing that boy. He scrambles. He gets five. And this right here, this fourth and one, I'm like, kick it. You already up seven. Go up 10. Go up 10. Make it a two-possession game. Great. right here. Instantly. It's two scores and then I'm like when I'm saying it's early in the game. The weather report, you gotta know points are at a maximum. You have a backup quarterback. I know you think he's willing and dealing but you got down here.

37:44Get you some points and then let's see what's gonna happen. Your defense is balling then maybe you can try to get 13. You know but make it to possession. That's what I was looking at like oh oh he's going gusto. I know what you're thinking with momentum but you're bugging. Mm-hmm. Bugging. incomplete, turnover on downs. Great defense, too. They was waiting on your little scramble play. Dude, go ahead. First down, may get sacked again. They get to third and long, and may hit Hollins for Twinkie. Great ball. Dagger right on time. Great ball, but he bobbled that thing. He bobbled it. He bobbled it.

38:27He bobbled that thing. and then got up with the, I'm like, no, man, just go ahead and walk away from that. Just go ahead and walk away from that. They get to a third in Manners' ripple, and May is sacked again. They got to punt the rock. Yep. They get a rock back over to Denver, first down, give it to the boy Harvey. He go for five. I believe it was incomplete. You know, your boy not looking as comfortable in that pocket anymore. They blitzing him. He start glitching a little bit. He start glitching. Third down, I think he hit Mims for five in the first, you know. Yeah, okay. Though I thought he was going to panic in that pocket.

39:07He kind of looked like he ain't know. He was like, all right, I can get it off. Mm-hmm. He started right around this. Go ahead. I said right around this drive right here is where he looked so comfortable that they didn't convert to fourth. And then now he starts looking in the pocket, glitching, backing up a little bit too much. I'm like, yo, slow. Wow, wow, whoa, whoa. like it don't mess it up don't turn over the ball your defense is playing too well like that was like Stenum you're hooping that's what he does third down he could have either just tossed that thing into the ground if he feel like he couldn't toss it take the sack just take it just take it instead he throws the rock backwards they recover the thing at the what 10 12 something like that.

39:56Man, I think it was the 12-yard line. Pass, get the ball. First play, they do a little look like it's going to be a run. Hit the backside of the booty for six. Second down, they said, we got the numbers. Let's run it. May gone ahead, took that thing up the middle. It's tied up. After all y 'all did, how y 'all had them down, it is tied up now. You could have been 10-7 right now. It's still up. Yo, May need to learn how to fall too, man. He go kill himself out there. Yeah, May is. He doesn't have the best slide at all. No question. Denver get back out there. First down, he is almost sacked, fumbled again.

40:41That's what he's now. Stenum is starting to look, Stenum is starting to look skittish. Nervous. Nervy. That second down, though, he went on ahead, picked it up. He got Harvey for the 10 in the first. He made more for that on his own, though. I think the first down was incomplete because, hey, the blitz, dude, the blitz was coming. He started rushing his timing. He throwing that thing in front and behind. Uh-huh. And then he gets sacked on the second down. The guard just got beat like a trunk. Beat to sleep. But that's an all-pro. He got – That guy got – The Euro step. Third – It's what? Third and 18, 20.

41:19They pick up a hot – You know, they do a dump, pick up a hot whatever. They punt the rock back over. Patriots get the ball. All right, and this is where it starts to get a little crazy, too, before halftime. Denver is able to hold them to a three and out because of the drop by Henry on second down. They got to punt the rock back over. That drop by Hunter Henry. That was the one that kept the clock. Yeah, that was the one that made it to where they forced a three and out. He dropped that rock. They punted back over to Denver. First down. Harvey breaks the tackle. He gets like, what, 11 right there?

41:54Out of the backfield. They end up getting to a second and 10. I think Sutton got six. And then third down. Your boy is sacked. He's sacked. So then we get this 54-yarder. You attempt a 54-yarder. And you miss. And you miss. And you miss. And you miss. Patriots ball. Patriots ball, dude. They get to a third and 15. Yes. They would pick up 16 yards, bro. To the slide into the timeout. To the slide into the timeout. And go for a 63-yarder. Not even a shot. Not a shot. What is it? A snowball's chance in hell. Snowball's chance in hell. They miss. Brother. And then Goalshead, they start the third. And you know what they did if they started the third, bro?

42:51They went 16 plays. Mm-hmm. 64 yards, almost 10 minutes. Mm-hmm. And kicked a 23-yard field goal, bro. Stevenson would pick up, what, 12? I think May scrambled for almost 30. That drive was... Bro, Henry picked up nine on the third down. That gave him the fourth and one. at the eight they would pick up the first thing that whole drive Debo was basically the game they went for 930 on them 9 minutes 30 seconds like you said scored the points and as soon as that happened we everybody won't listen about the weather but that's when it started looking crazy out there when nobody can complete anything if it wasn't for the third down sack on May they might have scored a 30 right They forced them to a field goal.

43:46They make the field goal. It's 10-7. Would have been 10-10. Yep. Denver get out there and the Pats say, ah-ah, get a body. Three and out. Three and out. Three and out. Three and out. Pats get back out there. Second and 10. What may do? Scramble for 13. Take off for 13. He need to learn how to slide, bro. Yeah. He's going to kill himself, bro. He's going to kill himself. Like second and six, they do the trickery, and Hollins, he goes here, get 31. That was the smoothest flea flicker I've ever seen in the snow. They just boop, boop, slow, super slow, but it worked perfectly. Yes. They end up getting to the fourth down.

44:33They're at like, what is it, 28? They go for a 46-yard field goal? Yes, brother. Bruh. Miss. But it's still 7 to 10. And on top of that, what was it, about six, seven plays? Yeah. They get the ball back with 11 seconds left in the third quarter. Yes. Like, New England had the ball for 13 minutes, over 13 minutes, bro, of 15 in the third quarter. Yeah. That's wild. That is wild. That's ball control, man. That's what you got to do when you need to start closing out games. Then we get out there. And he, hey, he ain't in his bag no more. He ain't smiling and laughing no more, man. They forced another three and out.

45:19Because what did that boy do on that third down? DBU. DBU. I need all that. All that. Jones on it. Because the weather, that's when it comes to being a DB. I love playing in the snow like that. because as long as you keep your feet, it's hard to catch that ball. So as soon as it hits them, all I got to make sure I'm breaking your arms, I'm smacking you as hard as I can because it's already hard. You got to secure it. Yes. You got to do – all I got to do is make sure you don't catch it. You know what I'm saying? It's hard to catch the ball like this. I'm just trying to smack your arms, anything, because the weather is in my favor.

45:55Oh, no question then. It is all the way in your favor then. Pats get the ball back. First down, Stevenson get about 11. They end up getting to a, what is it, third and four? Yep. And May is sacked again. I ain't tripping. They ain't tripping because the defenses, they going back and forth. They punt the rock back over. Okay? They give it to Denver. I think Denver might have picked up like one first down through the process. But then the next first down, he was pressured. The second down, just incomplete. Blown up the whole. Yeah. Third down, what was it, just short? Yep. The left is short. They got to punt the rock back over it.

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51:03Real-time updates only in iOS mobile app. Like, it got to get a handle. Now, the first down, they get the ball and the running back slips. Slips. Man, sees it in his head and makes the decision, I'm not about to try and run this, because what did he do the last time? He tried to make up for the play and run it, and he fumbled. Somebody punched it out. So he just went down. He said, nope. Let me go down here. Nope. Smart. I'm not going to compound this thing and make it worse. They end up going. Frank May is understanding. My running back can't even get his footing to get the ball. What I'm not going to do.

51:32He's understanding. Turn it over. We just need to make sure we just take all this clock out. My defense. They damn near started taking the knee, Debo, like for the plays. I felt like that's what they were about to start doing. I felt like they were going to just take a knee, let the clock run down. You know what I'm saying? Three knees and then punt. Like, because he scrambled on the third down. He scrambled to the sideline and threw the joint out of bounds. Like, if he's not open, throw it out of bounds. So I'm like, oh, they're basically taking it. Do not put the ball in jeopardy. Do not put the ball in jeopardy.

52:00Make sure Stidham, he's getting real glitchy back there, and the weather is looking terrible. We're up. Everybody's missing field goals. Make them have to drive down. There's no way. And I was looking at it, too, like this. Oh, my goodness. They're playing keep away. They're like, not even keep away, just drain the flop. I'm going to give it to you. Like, you're not going to be able to score on us. Yeah, they end up forcing them three and out. They punt the ball. I don't even know if that was a shank or just a terrible kick. It was just a terrible kick. To the 33-yard line. I don't know. I'm looking.

52:34How far did it go? I don't know, dude. But the defense stands up. The defense stands up. They only let them boys get, what, five yards in three plays after it was all said and done with the losses in the game. Yeah. And they go, go ahead and try for a 45-yard field goal. You should have kicked the short one when you was up there. And now you want to kick a 45-yarder in the blizzard. It goes off. They done missed it, bro. You see Buddy blocked it. Buddy got a hand on that. Yes. He tipped that thing. He got a hand on that. That's just what they get. Now, take the points while they're there. Pass get the rod back, dude.

53:23And this is what I was talking about. That's the drive. They forced a three and out on that one, though. Brother, it's not even a forcing of a three and out, D-Bo. They weren't trying. They were literally just making sure they weren't going to... Let me give them some credit. Man, no. No, no, no. Stevenson lost, got two. Then he scrambled to the side, threw it. No, I'm like this. No, y 'all are just... I don't... Y 'all ain't tricking me. But three and out. He gets the ball back, brother. Second down. Your boy went to the well one too many times, and he said, you're not going to get me again. No.

53:58No, no, no. It's too high to low. Great play by Gonzalez. Just making sure. He made up. He looking at the quarterback the whole time, and Stidham throws a lollipop straight up in the air. Receiver, you got to know this too. You look the whole time. Look the whole time. Because it's snowing. The quarterback's not going to be able to throw a 40-yard dot on the outside. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be a jump ball. So you got to look earlier, but Gonzalez, great job staying on top, making the play, ending the game. No question. Well, May ended the thing with the scramble. You can let May outrun you on that corner.

54:34That's the defensive end. He not outrunning me, but he definitely got missing on Buddy. Buddy could have tried to get to the angle, and May hit the gas on him. Dude. That's what you got to do. No question. You got to, bro. You got to. Game over. 10-7 because you wanted to pass up some easy points, bro. That makes no sense. No sense. I mean, Patriots had 206 total yards of offense. The Broncos had 181 total yards of offense. It was the beginning. Like you said, first half, when you have those weather conditions, you felt so good, drove it down, big play, scored the touchdown. and you thought you were about to go up 14-0.

55:23No, just two possessions. Like, every possession in each of these playoff games means so much. And you're a smart coach. I know you went into that thing and studied the weather report. It was bright outside at the beginning. It's going to get ugly. Let's get any points on the board that we can. Three, you know what I'm saying? Field goal, anything's going to be hard to come by. So this is a great defense that we're playing against. Luckily, like, he thought he was going to play like that the whole game. He could have started terrible, then did a little bit good, but you got the good early and got comfortable and thought you were going to be good the whole game.

55:54No, Fulio. Every time we get in a position to get any type of points with Stidham, let's do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, we'll take the three. You know what I'm saying? We're playing against the Patriots. We're here. Our defense is balling three. Three is good. Three is seven. You know what I'm saying? We don't need to leave. We're never leaving with zero. We never need to leave with zero. It's the playoffs, man. It's total elimination. Like, you're fighting to go to the Super Bowl, buddy, and you up here doing that? Mm-hmm. And you up seven? Leaving point. What? I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.

56:26I'm not doing that either. Drake May ain't even have 100 yards passing, did he? No, man. Drake May. Listen, that boy killed him running that ball and scrambling on. And he had one in the 31-yard ball. Killed him scrambling and running. Like, come on, man. And the mistakes, bro. The mistakes over there by the QB that he was, oh, yeah. they got two weeks off. Nah, y 'all got all the time off. Nah. He's just compounded. But that comes from not having that playing time. Not having that time during the season. Mason in there in his head and he's like ooh, I remember I did that. Nope. I can't do that.

57:05I gotta take this. I can't compound this. I remember that time I tried to scramble in there and they punched it out. Nah. Right. That one. And they punched that thing out, he was like, no, we're not going to do that again. Let me drop down right here. I'm going to get down a little bit earlier. I hate myself. You know what I'm saying? Not worth it. You're keeping points off the board when you don't turn over the rock. That's the biggest part. When you have such a good team, your defense is not allowing. And if they do, make it on them. Make them know. Make them make sense. Make them drive it on our defense.

57:37Don't just give them layups. They scored that they laid it up. They had the ball on the 12. That's a layup. The touchdown they did score, they hit a 50-yarder on you. No, make them work it down the field. They ain't going to be able to work it down the field. They ain't going to be able to do that. And then, hell, the quarterback that you were so highly on, he went on ahead and tossed that thing over to him. But the biggest thing to me was Sean Payton not kicking that field goal right there on that fourth down. Like, how do you – that's crazy. I don't even understand that one right there. I don't, I don't.

58:15If you make it, yeah, this ain't even talked about, but you didn't. It was a fifth, you know? Yep. And Joe, we go going on over here because we ain't got that much time. We go going on over here to Seattle. Yes. Seattle in the ring. Oh, yep. 31 to 27. What did I tell you about the Rams defense? What did I tell you? What did I tell you about their DBs? Answer me when I'm talking to you. You told me, let me tell you, let me tell you, you told me that the defense was going to be trash. Do you know what I told you? How much did Puka go for? How much did Puka go for? Under 91? But who did you have winning?

59:01Huh? Who did you have winning? Who did you have winning? I was wrong. I was wrong, but I was right. The big thing I was right about, Who cares about the individual performances if it don't get you the W? Because I'm talking about prize. Joe. I'm trying to talk about people getting people paid. Joe. Yeah. Joe. Joe. Yes. I'm talking about winning, Joe. You're right. You're right. You're right. I was wrong. I was wrong. I thought the Rams were going to sue. But you know who proved me wrong? I'd rather have zero tackles. Do you know who proved me wrong? Zero everything and win. Do you know who proved me wrong?

59:39Do you know who proved me wrong? the person who proved me wrong Sam damn Darnold oh my goodness that man look and I'm telling you my man don't play Matthew Stafford was out there balling too he was hooping but Sam Darnold what in the he was looking he looked so good I'm going to give him all of my credit I'm going to give him all of my respect because You have to. What are you talking about? There's nothing that you could do with, what was it, 25? I wasn't expecting it. I wasn't expecting it. 25 of 36, 346 yards, three touchdowns. Oh, my goodness. You know what's so crazy is that Sam – sorry. Sam Darnold – yes, I was correct.

1:00:30Sam Darnold and your boy Stafford over there got close to the same passer rating. But – We're kind of used to that from him. I'm not blaming this. Matthew Stafford. We knew that's what he needed to do, but that wasn't going to win him if they couldn't stop Sam Darnold. No, no. You know what? No, no, no, no, no. I told you the defense wasn't like that, Joe. No, no, no. I get tired of you disrespecting me. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. I'm not letting you get this one over. It was what I told you, too. The Rams special teams laid the end. Man, I don't want to hear nothing about that fumble. I don't want to hear nothing about that muff.

1:01:10They knew he was going to do it. He muffed it one time before that. He tried to do it twice. I'm like, oh my goodness. It should have get him out of the game the first time he muffed it. That, and then you know who else? Seahawks. My man, the rookie, his name is number three. And how do you pronounce his last name? I don't know. So I ain't going to try to. He looks like, he looked like, what's my name? He looked like Derwin James. He looks just like Derwin James. He was strapped. He strapped Puka on the play. He strapped Devontae on the play. He strapped the running back on the play. He took over a series.

1:01:44Like, that young man, balling. So, Sam Darnold hooped. JSN hooped. Walker the third. Oh, my goodness. Since Charbonnet's out, now he won't get all the carries? I think that might even be better. Two-headed monster is nice, but you got Walker toting the joint like this. I got the Seahawks winning the Super Bowl for sure. After this weekend? Oh, now you want to come. Now you want to come on over here. Because you weed with the Patriots. So you're not going to go with your Patriots for the Super Bowl? What are you talking about? You were saying with the Patriots. Oh, I was bullfragging on that. It ain't no weed.

1:02:23So Patriots versus the Seahawks in the championship, you going to Seattle. We're talking about these games right here, not the Super Bowl. What you going with the Super Bowl? Okay, so for the Super Bowl, I'm going to Seattle. I ain't going to lie to you. I'm still probably going to go Patriots, but I got to look at what I'm looking at as far as O &D special teams. What scares me is the offense ain't really doing much over here right now, and the special teams, they liable to shank something on them. So, like I said. Who? Who's going to be liable to shank something? New England. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:03:08For sure. Seahawks special teams. I'm going to have to look at this, man. Rasheed probably going to run back a punt or a kickoff. Seahawks special teams is not to be messed with. Dude. Yeah, like I said, man. But, hey, what I ain't worried about is him running it back. You forgot Shuler over there, right? Shuler? Shuler over there? Yep. You forgot he over there, right? Man. Okay. I'm going Seattle. I understand what you're saying. Only thing I'm worried about is them not kicking it far enough. That's what I'm worried about. I ain't worried about them taking it back. I'm worried about the field position battle that's going to come.

1:03:48Okay. Now you add that on top of your boy over there on that fourth and four, going for it instead of kicking that field goal, that could have been 30-31. Now you look at the end of the game. Nope. See, yeah, I'm going. If you had saved just one timeout over there, you could get a 20 and a 23. They got him to the 49 right there, but he got tackle in bounds. If they just had one timeout, that could have been a field goal game winner. But anyway, I told you what was going to happen. Sam Darnold was going to happen. And the DBs was down bad. Man, so were the Rams DBs. I knew that was going to happen.

1:04:32and the Seahawks DBs too Spoon I mean they was getting but to act like Puka didn't have one hey listen Puka act like Devontae didn't have 80 something with a tighty listen bruh yeah Puka yes Puka yes didn't do enough to win the game it's a team game if Buddy wouldn't have fumbled them two jumps and then I ain't gonna lie oh it's a team game but you I'm not mad at him But you're hollering on Buddy. If Buddy did this, if Buddy did that, it's a team game. They won it. They won. They still gave up 27 points. 30 balls. Man. Shout out Seattle. I'm not going to disrespect. No disrespect. That was a good game.

1:05:18That was a good game. Them boys was balling. Yeah. Shout out Sam Darnold. Yeah. Shout out Sam Darnold. Shout out Sam Darnold. Shout out Mike Vrabel. Coach of the year. Easily. shout out damn what's my man that man went from from that what was it 4 and 13 to stop playing bro he in the Super Bowl went from not even having a chance Eben Eben Uri stop playing Eben Uri that's his name one year Eben Uri from Seattle young Derwin James rookie baller baller look here man we got some super chats We got, man. We got, we got, I guess we got a leftover super chat.

1:06:06American Assassin. American Assassin 001. I guess he was the first one, not 007, but it was 001. Donated$10. Said, for the love of God, please, Debo, me and my wife, both are begging for you to be the head. That's over with the head coach. That's over with. That's all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We said give Debo the bag. Debo. That's what I'm telling you. Everything's still us. Give Debo the bag. He going. They should have gave me the bag, Joe. They should have gave you the bag. They should have gave me the bag. Look, we got time now because we know McCarthy, man, he going to be there too long. So we got time to prep.

1:06:55You got time to prep for your time. I might have to go and see if I can offer my services or something, man. You know, to me, maybe, you know, maybe he might be willing, you know, to see what I can offer the team. And I might, you know, I'll throw you in there and give you a couple, you know. Yeah. Give you a shout out, make sure you get an opportunity. But I'm going to let y 'all know, y 'all want us in there. This is what's going to happen now. Y 'all want us in there. We ain't going to be able to do the show no more. It's going to be kind of a conflict of interest. And then we going to be on here not being able to get an inside scoop.

1:07:45And then we going to have too much inside scoop. We going to be the scoop. Hey, we going to be the scoop. That might be a conflict. That might be a serious conflict right there now. Yep, yep, yep. So we're going to do it until we get the job, though. We're going to do it. We're going to do it until we get the job. We're going to do it until we get the job. Look at it, baby. Mike and Mike, Dash 100 donated$5, said, what up, Debo and Joe? He said, pairing Mike McCarthy with Aaron Rodgers is a great move. if it was 15 years ago. I took the word right out of my mouth, brother. I mean, that would be definitely a great move if it was 15 years ago.

1:08:29Yep. Because, you know. Yep. Yeah, I definitely... I'm with you. He talking about, yeah, when they was the league MVP. Yeah. I mean, hopefully he can... I mean, hopefully he knows what he... Yeah, I mean, he know what he's getting into, what he got to do to build this. I don't know, man. Debo, you don't even believe. I'm hoping, bro. I'm hoping for the best, bro. Over there, you don't even. Dang, Debo. See, that's what knowing you now, I know what you believe in something, and I know what you don't. Bro, I'm just. I like being proven wrong sometimes, especially when the situation is like this.

1:09:12I really do. I would love to be proven wrong on this. it's going to be the time that you do like the you just say something crazy because you know that they listening and you hope that they just do the opposite and it works out.

1:09:29I don't know if that's how this works.

1:09:34Yeah, man. Good luck, McCarty. For sure. Bruh. I'm going to check it out, bro. I'm going to check it out, though. I mean, I don't know. We might be. I don't know. Anyway, man, we got Rick underscore from New York. He donated$5. He said, I'm 42, and I have cried after two games in my lifetime, Super Bowl 30 and 45. Why do I need to keep seeing these guys that beat us on my team?

1:10:11Hey, man, you talking about Aaron and Mike McCarthy, man. Oh, and they beat him in 2010. Yeah, we lost to him in 2010, man. Debo for Hall of Fame. Yes, let's go. Let's do it. Let's go, Debo, H-O-L. Hey, look here. Speaking of that. Speaking of that. Look here. So, great. And we say, the big thing everyone says is, is you say Mike is great because he never had to lose a season. That's a great accomplishment. It doesn't make you the greatest. I have a Super Bowl interception that's 100 yards no one has ever done in the history of the league as he has done something or ever since now. That doesn't make me the greatest.

1:11:07I am the only and probably will only be the ever undrafted free agent that has won a defensive MVP that doesn't make me the greatest. But because he has not had a losing season, that makes him the greatest. That cannot go together. It don't go together. It won't go together. Look here, man. And we want to thank you guys for joining on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download the show, Joe. Yes. Please make sure you like, subscribe, download, and catch me and Debo here tomorrow, 11 o 'clock. Let's get it. Yes, sir. We'll see you guys tomorrow. We out.

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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to NFL Conference Playoff Championship Round where  Sam Darnold and the Seattle Seahawks defeated Matthew Stafford and the Los Angeles Rams, Drake Maye and the New England Patriots beat Jarrett Stidham and the Denver Broncos to advance to Super Bowl LX. Later, they react to the Pittsburgh Steelers hiring Mike McCarthy as their next head coach

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