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21:54James Harrison:Oh, exactly. I think when you have a player at his ability level, like you said, It just, it can disguise a lot of other things. And then when you have that quarterback that's coming in and he's a stand-up, complete opposite pocket passer than Lamar Jackson, what is he? He can't do that. He can't be able to extend any plays. He can't be able to make anything happen. So he's got to be in that thing, either handing the ball off to Derrick Henry or standing back, making a five-step drop and throwing it on time. And that's not the Ravens offense. So I completely understand what you're saying. They're going to have to either try to cater something to him, but I'm not switching up my office for Buddy because you just got to go get a mobile backup.

22:34Right. You have to get someone that is Lamar-like and can do the things that's necessary to do that because he's a quarterback that you're not worried about him running the ball. So when Derrick Henry is back there and they hand the ball off, we're not worried about what the quarterback is going to do, if he's going to pull it or anything else. So now what do we do? We key in on Henry. Head first. go in as fast as you can. We'll get back up to this slow quarterback. That's not a issue for us. Do you want him to pull it? Please pull it. We're going to put you out the game. Yeah, like, dude, they gave up 44 points, which is the most they have ever given up in a home game in John Harbaugh's 18 years coaching.

23:14Period, dude. The Ravens are on pace to give up more and, like, shatter the Panthers. The declaration, which is full of these beautifully rendered sentences and paragraphs about Enlightenment ideals

23:29James Harrison:does also have this darker history to it. Why is it important for the darker part of the Declaration of Independence and the American Revolution, why is it important that Americans know about it? Well, if we don't understand the full context in which our nation was founded, we won't understand the full context in which our nation now finds itself. I'm Rebecca Nagle, Goheen Dawadon, Jalekaietli, Gayla, citizen of Cherokee Nation. Are you guys big Chiefs fans? Hell yeah. This is First America, the true story of how the United States came to be and how we got to this present moment. Listen to First America on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

24:20James Harrison:I'm Mangesh Hatikular, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us. I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain. Here's some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble.

25:05I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know.

25:12James Harrison:Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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26:04James Harrison:Tune in this week for my interview with Dr. Jill Wittler, a street doctor turned influencer whose work with the Unhoused community has made a huge impact online and in her community. Listen to Weed the Unhoused on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There's 24 record for most points allowed at 534. They're at 35.4 per game right now, bro. like that's no it i i don't understand it dude and i understand him not saying do you think i'm not changing no no i don't i don't think it's coaching dude it's the players bro it's the players i understand not changing your d coordinator it's too late in the season to do that anyway but they're missing tackles they're they're getting pushed around they're getting deep They're getting dominated by the other man across the ball.

27:00There's nothing the coach can do about that. There's nothing the coach about that. Like, you got to win your one-on-ones. And they're not doing that for the majority of the game in anything that they do. I mean, Houston is Houston, but I expected him to do good, but I didn't expect him to do this well. Hey, shout out to C.J.

27:24James Harrison:Stroud. Oh, yeah. He looked a little athletic. He was hauling ass up the sideline. So, I mean, I think he might have been playing possible. Well, you got to realize something. I think he was playing possible. He's doing this against the 30-second defense. So, unless you're the 30-second offense, it should look different. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, he look good, though. He look good. 44 is 44 on anybody is 44. But they going for a record of the worst defense in the league. So, we're going to see what he do next week. But I'm happy for C.J. Stroud. He looked athletic. He did. Well, you know, like I said, it could have been him joking, not joking, whatever it may be.

28:02I don't know too many people. They said he go as far back as watching like peewee type stuff games. I'm like high school and all that. I'm like, I don't even know if I got high school tape. I do have high school tape. It's on DVD now. It was on a VHS. It's on DVD now. I don't even know. Do they still got DVD players? I don't even know, dude. I don't know. I don't know.

28:32James Harrison:You better put it in the PlayStation.

28:37Do the PlayStation still use? I don't know. I ain't got no games. I'm so far out of that. Yeah, they do.

28:42James Harrison:They do. I'm so far out of that. You can download them, but yeah, I still use the disc. Dude, Eagles lost. Eagles lost to the Broncos, bro. They dominated that game for a good three quarters, dude. And then they went and gave it up in the fourth.

29:01What do you think people are doing to try and – this is my thought. Yeah, tell me what you think about it, D. I think they're trying to change up and not run as much to maybe get receivers' balls to keep the noise down maybe or whatever it is that they may be. Because you ran the ball with Saquon all last year, and that got y 'all a Super Bowl. Like that was what y 'all did. And now it almost like you're, you're abandoning it. I don't, I just don't, I don't understand it. I know it came out in the, you know, like second half of that game, you know, Denver and they changed up, you know, what they were giving, what they were giving hurts and what they were giving the offense.

29:52And, you know, they showed things that looked like they were going to do something that they didn't, they'd show man that didn't drop out in the zone and all that other stuff. But, you know, at some point, the offense coordinator, you got to adjust to that. Hey, they're doing this. We need to adjust to their adjustment. And that's my thought. That's my thought on it.

30:16James Harrison:What did Saquon run for? Dude, I think he only had

30:24at one point in time, dude, I think it was in the third quarter, dude only had maybe six carries or something like that. God, yeah, that ain't going to work.

30:31James Harrison:You can't detour from what got you there, especially when you got Saquon Barkley. Yes. That doesn't make any sense. I think they might. Maybe you know how, like, A.J. Brown trying to get his voice out. But I think Jalen Hurts, some of them passes that he throwing to A.J. Brown, he just be overthrowing my man, throwing the joints out of bounds. We looking crazy, so I know he's doing this. A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith seem to call out Jalen Hurts. in consecutive weeks about the passing game? Bro, I mean, it is what it is. I mean, sometimes I've been looking at some of those plays where A.J. Brown is open, like beating a dude on the deep ball, and he's just overthrowing him by five yards.

31:16James Harrison:I'm like, where are you throwing the ball to? Give him a chance. So, like, you know, the receiver, if you throw the ball out of bounds or throw the ball where nobody, I can't even, like, slow down, jump up and make a contested catch, throw me something where I have an opportunity. You know what I'm saying? And these dudes are feeling like, dude, this dude, all cool Mo D, is out here not getting me the rock and throwing the ball crazily. So I'm not going to just keep sitting here and chilling, and then we start messing around and lose the game. Because now it was all good, you undefeated. But then when you start losing and you're looking bad, then it's like, okay, now do y 'all hear what I'm saying?

31:49James Harrison:Are y 'all not looking at these passes that are not in anywhere in my vicinity? You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, I think it's good to be able to hold a man accountable. Like, look, if he goes in there and look at that tape, Jalen Hurts, was that pass bad? Like, yes, it was. All right, then. Well, let me see you make a better throw. You know what I'm saying? So, I think it's just being able to stand on it and be able to be, like, responsible for your position. And when you do bad, be able to say, yes, that's me. I got to make sure this is better. Yeah. I lied, bro. It was six carries for the whole game, 30 yards.

32:22God damn. 30 yards, bro. Like six carries, 30. It's only six carries, right? So you're telling me that those six carries, 30 yards, you're telling me five yards of pop ain't good enough?

32:40James Harrison:Six carries? You cannot even warm yet. Six carries, he's not warm. I don't, I got to, yeah, we got to. This is the offense coordinator, baby. Yeah, I got to look into that one. That's wild. You got to, hey, Philly, go over there, look into your offensive coordinator. That's where y 'all go find all y 'all answers. And, you know, I mean, players play on the field, so I understand you the overthrowing and all the other stuff. But maybe, you know, if he didn't have to do that as much, you know, and they were giving wider open passes because of the run game was working, he wouldn't overthrow it in fear of, you know, getting a pick, rather having incompletions than a pick, you know?

33:23Yeah. I can see that. But Saquon with six carries is crazy. They got to change that. That just doesn't make any sense. Oh, yeah. I got to let him touch the ball at least 20 times. That's how I feel. That's just, yeah, I didn't pay you all this money to just have you come over. Five? Six carries? Dude, I could carry six right now at 47. I'm curious.

33:48James Harrison:I like it. For six, yes, six carries for sure. That was wild. Like, I don't understand.

34:22I'm hearing more F-bombs than I done heard ever. You know? So I just, I don't feel like you're giving us, because I'm taking you out of the weed right now, the same loyalty that you're giving the clowns. I mean, the Browns. That's disrespectful. Don't call them the clowns. My braces. My braces make me mess up my word. I'm sorry. That wasn't.

34:50James Harrison:Nobody, Bo. But, yeah, the Steelers, you want to go to the Steelers or you want to talk about the Lions and Bengals? We want to talk about the Lions and Bengals, man. You know, I mean, the Lions are the Lions. It was just a little too much. It was a little too much. Browning. Browning out there was. Against the Bengals. Browning was out there throwing punt balls. He was throwing the ball to the other team. He picked up and did way better in the fourth. In the fourth quarter, he did good. But at the beginning of that game. I mean, come on. You know you in that pre-event. You know, you done sat back.

35:30You know, all that. You know, how they go. Man, that's the only reason why. Do you know what I was surprised, though?

35:37James Harrison:The defense did do better. Yes, they did. The defense did do better. They did. They definitely made a step in the right direction. Because that offense is a great offense to go against. man with the running game with golf with some Amara like that's a squad that's a team that's a full team that you're going against so then being able to have all them damn turnovers and yes you got him jumping out there putting fires out you got they had to it could have been third quarter he basically hits well you might as well say two quarters because he got the third pick as soon as the second player of the second half.

36:13I mean, yeah, he is not... You know what? You know what? Listen, Russ can't do no worse. They need to go ahead and see if the Giants give up Russ. Oh, for sure.

36:29James Harrison:Something gotta happen. Something gotta give. I'm not gonna lie. I hope they keep Ryan Nass in there. For the sake of the Steelers and for the sake of the Browns. Keep running in there and keep having him throw the ball to the other team. And this is going to be perfect for us. Because they... Hey, but I kind of, you know, I don't want to go in there and have competition. You know what I'm saying? I want to see a good game. I don't want to go in there and see the Steelers score 50, you know? TJ get 10 sacks and, you know, 18 turnovers and all that. I don't want to see that. You know, that's just boring, you know?

37:08And then that's you know, that's like

37:12James Harrison:beating a dead horse. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You want to beat him at the top of the game. You want to beat him at the top of the game. I ain't going to say all that. They can keep Burrow up out of there. I ain't going to go to Avow. All right? Uh-uh. That tells you how good Burrow is. Look what they got right now. Look what they doing right now. Look what he's done. Hey, Burrow, you might want to get up out of there, baby, after your toe get right. I think they're going to waste you over there. I don't know. They ain't going to let him go nowhere. I don't know. Did they sign him yet? I don't know.

37:43I got to look at the contract. That man, yeah. That man Joe Burrow. Is there the stipulation in there?

37:47James Harrison:How much is the guarantee? Yeah, it could be getting close to up. But, you know, they going to keep that man. He probably making, what, like 50 a year? I think he's probably around 50.

37:59Like, yeah, I don't. Yeah. Listen, the only thing that may worry me is that they did play well the defense played well now lions is number six offense they did that well against them i wouldn't say that well they just didn't do as trash as they usually do okay when it came time to actually like stop they did stop them sometimes but it seemed like when the lions was like yo we got to get something they getting too close they went on head drove down the field and got a touchdown or whatever it may be that they needed to. So I just don't want anybody else in the North improving too much on any side of the ball, you know, because I'm selfish.

38:47James Harrison:I respect that. But Gibbs and the Lions is a really, really good team, man. Oh, yeah. Them running backs, bro, they set a record for scoring, two running backs scoring each in the game, like 14. They scored, both of them scored in the game 14 times. And I think that's a record for two running backs on the same team scoring in the same game that many times. So they just, they still, they balling. And I love the way they support each other. You know what I'm saying? Thunder and lightning. So I think they got a really good thing going on their side, for sure. Oh, no question, dude. Like that first week, you know, that was that.

39:23They needed to get bumped on the head to go ahead and wake up. Mm-hmm. You know, like they looking like the old Lions, you know, that we had been seeing the last couple of years. Yeah, for sure.

39:37James Harrison:It's a long season, too. So, you know, that first game, like you said, they got spanked up. We didn't know what was happening. But you can't just start being like, oh, no, the Lions are all messed up. We don't know what's going on. No, no, no, no, no. Let them get into it. Let them start getting their footing right. Like it's a long season, and now we going into week six. So now you're starting to really see kind of teams starting to come in, too. what they're going to be. Yeah, and it don't hurt. Like you said, go against the Bengals. I mean, the Bengals. I don't know my braces be pacing up against my lip like that.

40:05You so disrespectful. No, my lip, dude. I'm just, what's disrespectful? You want to know what's disrespectful? What? The Bengals have been outscored the last three games, 113 to 37, okay? Like, that's disrespectful. The man done threw three picks that game. On top of that, he done threw eight interceptions in the last four. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah. Yeah, they got to get rid of him. That's disrespectful. That is disrespectful. That's bad ball. That's bad ball, D-Bo. Like, if I'm Joe Burrell, y 'all want me to come out here and do this, y 'all got to re-up. Y 'all got to double my pay because I got to get injury.

40:43I got to get injury pay because I know I'm going to get hit from every side. Like, I'm going to have to mess around to get a backyotomy, you know. tackle ain't tackle ain't ain't protecting my backside or something you know I don't I don't know man I don't

41:01James Harrison:they need to get some line because if they gonna keep Burrow back there every time he keep getting hit he keep getting hurt I mean you gotta protect them and then they still got Chase and they sign Higgins so that openness aside I think is gonna they gonna be explosive defense look like you said they look like they playing a little bit better but I think the main thing they would need to do is just get stouty up that line because the receivers but Jamar Chase, Higgins, ballers. Like, they had the skill players to do it. I just think that you got to keep Joe Burrow upright. Yeah, you got to, man.

41:31If you don't do that, you don't even got a chance, man. But the Patriots went on ahead out there and stunned them boys over there in Buffalo 23-20. Yes, yes. What are we talking about? Defense, turnovers, dude. Turnovers. It's a big thing. Yes, buddy. Turning the ball over the Bills, man. The Bills killed themselves with the turnovers, bro. Yeah, so I guess the Bills had an NFL record, 26-game streak without losing the turnover battle broken when they turned the ball over, was it four times? Four times? Or was it three? Three or four. One or the other, dude. It wasn't a— Hey, listen. They got a quarterback over there, dude.

42:19They actually got a quarterback over there. Oh, May. Yeah. Yeah, bro. Oh, yes. Yeah. May doing his thing, dude. Real talk. Buffalo had two fumbles in that first quarter. A bunch of penalties. Like, they had, I believe they had twice as many penalties at halftime than they had points. You know what I'm saying? Like, New England's defense, dude, they played well. They did good, even though they had a few injuries, too. They had a few injuries. They had four takeaways, bro. May? May look good, dude. Like, he was passing the rock. He was using his feet to get things going, putting his head down, going ahead and doing what he had to do to try and get what he needed to.

43:04He ended up 22 at 30 for 273. And you know that boy Diggs went loose on him. Man. Loose on him, boy. 10 for 146.

43:15James Harrison:On his old team, bro. Came back with, like, I got something for y 'all last. Y 'all thought I wasn't good enough no more? Y 'all ain't want me here? No, they ain't. They ain't really want me. You know, they said he had some growing up to do. I guess he was a problem. I guess that was the report from there and, what was it, Minnesota? And then when he got to Houston, it was totally different. I think everybody has points and times where they need to mature or grow up. prime example like we uh we got rid of um receiver now playing for a george dallas yeah we got rid of pickings right pickings so everybody's like why would they do that his play was not the issue they were unsure of his maturity like you may have to hit a spot here or there or have something happen before you're able to you know mature into you know the person that you may become, you know, later on in your career.

44:16Just as Diggs is saying, like, yo, I'm a lot more mature. They're saying he's a leader. He's vocal. He's pot. Like, that was something that he had to, you know, he had to mature into. Now, if, say, he had stayed in Buffalo and continued the same thing and they did what was necessary to keep him, he's not going to mature because you're saying your behavior that you're doing is going to achieve the goal that you want and that's how players become okay it was a little bit of an issue to it's a lot of an issue to now you can't control the issue and you have to get rid of them because you fought so long to try and keep them there that they were determined that you know what the behavior i'm doing is what's going to get me what i want instead of being like yo it's not going to work we're going to move you Well, it's not going to work.

45:07We're going to move you. OK, so I guess the problem is not the teams I was on. The problem is me. And it takes some self-awareness to realize that that's what it is and that's what happens. And maybe right now, Piggins is over there, doesn't realize like, you know what, I need to do something to, you know, grow up. You ain't hearing nothing about anything that's, you know, going on on the field, off the field, whatever it may be. So, you know, it could be it could be one of those situations.

45:34James Harrison:No, no, no, for sure, for sure. I mean, I can definitely see what you're saying because, you know, people, you don't, when you first get in too, you never know like the business of the league. You know what I'm saying? You just think you're out there playing football and all that stuff. But getting cut, getting released, getting traded to another team would change his perspective real fast and understand like, okay, like I might have to, I might have went about some things differently and this game could be taken away from me. So I got to kind of mature in a little bit and maybe I can handle things a little bit better.

46:04James Harrison:so I definitely definitely understand where you're coming from there because dudes come in 21 years old you're a kid at the beginning and then you start seeing you play a little bit you see some other dudes you talking to them about situations and then you can you learning experience you can't just get learning experience without living through it you know what I'm saying like you gotta believe me dude I understand what you're saying if I would have listened to everything I was told when I was young and actually took that advice and use it instead of having to go through the process of, you know what, let me be hard-headed and find out myself.

46:35I'd be a whole lot further in life. I think all, all of everybody would. You know what I'm saying? So, Big's over there now doing this thing, grinding it out. He's the, from what they're saying, he's the perfect, you know, he's the perfect player. He's the perfect teammate, you know, and he's the guy that is vocal, a leader over there. And I'm liking it. I'm liking it over there. I mean, we whooped them, you know, but I mean, I'm just saying, like, we are the Steelers, though. So that just that don't you know, that don't matter. But man, they did help them a lot with, you know, with penalties, penalties, with turnovers.

47:15You look at it. I think Buffalo had more yards than them, had more first downs. And I think they even had more plays than them. But the killers, they also had more penalties and more turnovers. and you know they said they're not well i guess it was a thing that came out where they were saying you know they're not worried or or stressed about i wouldn't either because you basically you self mood you self-mutilated yourself y 'all killed yourself with penalties and turnovers understandable i could see that but still somebody out there and get those turnovers and force those turnovers and recover those turnovers and put those points up.

47:55And that was, you know, that was Drake and them, you know? Yes.

48:01James Harrison:Yes. And at the end of the day, too, when they was driving it down, their defense got that stop, and they kicked the field goal to tie the game. When Drake got that ball back and was able to march the joint all the way down with him and Diggs and then escaping from the sack, Like being able to make it a great. He is making throws full stride, half stride, long down the field, on the money. On the money. In no position other than what his player could catch it. Dude, that is scary. He went and won the game. Their defense put them in positions to be able to get into that position, and then he went and won that game, man.

48:40James Harrison:So he was just able to, like you said, making great down the field throws when you need it most. because games have ebbs and flows. It's going to be first quarter, second quarter, turn over here, whatever, whatever. What's happening in the fourth? Can we win the game? Is it still close? Because everything else is all that. We can figure it out. Like, there's fluff. But now when it's time to the nitty gritty, coach, what are we doing? Are we going to score or are we not? You know what I'm saying? And being able to walk out of that stadium in the fourth. So it just means so much more because you can go into that now and that's good, guys.

49:12James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? We can play the best. The Declaration, which is full of these beautifully rendered sentences and paragraphs about Enlightenment ideals, does also have this darker history to it. Why is it important for the darker part of the Declaration of Independence and the American Revolution? Why is it important that Americans know about it? Well, if we don't understand the full context in which our nation was founded, we won't understand the full context in which our nation now finds itself. I'm Rebecca Nagle, Goheen Dawadon, Jalekayetli, Gayla, citizen of Cherokee Nation. Are you guys big Chiefs fans?

49:56Hell yeah.

49:57James Harrison:This is First America, the true story of how the United States came to be and how we got to this present moment. Listen to First America on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

50:35James Harrison:science. I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain. Here's some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make it look more They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is. Getting a racist statue removed.

51:20James Harrison:And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is. Getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert E. Lee Boulevard. To get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're a historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akilah Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky Statehouse that's actually worth the wall space.

51:54James Harrison:We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Feels tight, defense, balled out. And then we got to get into May's hands. Him and Diggs wrote it down for us to get the win. So I think it just brings some confidence in the whole team. Like, all this other shit that happened, whatever, we can deal with it. But when they got down to the nitty-gritty and we needed to score or get down to the field goal range, run out of the clock, whatever it may be, May did it for us, and we won that game.

52:36James Harrison:So that's a positive for them for sure. Yeah, buddy. The Cowboys, they beat the Jets 37-22. It was Chance, Chance of MVP. It's week five. Dak Prescott, he said he heard it. His words was it's week five. I don't care. what do you uh what do you take of that how do you like that response yeah I mean I do I love it I do I don't even like the Cowboys because you know what I feel like at the end of the day that you they're gonna talk about the Cowboys all the time no matter what man no matter what he putting up numbers he's doing all that right now I ain't gonna lie yeah no no for sure and I'm not mad at it at all But Dak knows what, at the end of the day, he's trying to go, they need to do playoff things.

53:30James Harrison:All this regular season things is all that. It's going to be all good, all dandy. But what are you going to do in the playoffs? They haven't been able to do anything in the playoffs. And he knows that people are going to hold him to that standard. All this regular season is sweet. It looks good. All right. But when we get to that wild card, can we get a playoff win? Can we go to the division? Can we make like a push, a real push? Because the talent is always there. They always have numbered. The names on the back of those jerseys are unbelievable. Do you know what I'm saying? So the players, it's not that.

53:59James Harrison:It's like this. He understands. It's bigger than just this, the regular season and all that. And then for him, he's not. He's already going to get people talking crap about him any time. So he's like, yeah, I heard the chance. I'm like, I think I'm playing great. I think I'm doing great right now. No, I don't care. I'm focused on us continuing to get better. And just the PC answer, the quarterback answer that you need to give. Right, right. I mean, I think that is the real answer. I think that's really how he feels. Because my thing is this, would I take an MVP or would I take a Super Bowl win?

54:35Give me the Super Bowl win. You could keep the MVP. The goal is every year. Only one team succeeds in accomplishing that goal. And that's the team that walks away with that Lombardi. Your main goal is to win the Super Bowl. Yes, it's other accolades that come along with it, but if your focus is those accolades, you're going to miss the bigger picture. You see what I'm saying? Hey, man, Jerry out here flipping off fans? Yeah, man. Jerry out here flipping off fans? Yes. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Don't players get fined for that? I would think so. But Jerry, he up in the owner's suite looking down.

55:14Listen, Brian Branch of the Lions, he got fined$20 ,000 last year for flipping off a fan. What you going to find, Jerry? Hey, Roger, what are you going to find, Jerry, huh, for flipping off the fans? This is supposed to be representation of the Shield, all that other good stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not a good look for an actual owner to be flipping off fans. Like, are you going to do something about that? or are you just going to sit back? I don't know. We'll see. I think he's going to sit back. You may. I think he's going to sit back. Oh, yeah. I don't know. He might have to.

55:54If we make enough noise, he might have to do something. Who knows? He might have to. It really don't matter, man. Roger Goodell. Did you see he was in the suite? He was in the suite, Lena.

56:05James Harrison:Roger Goodell's the puppet for the owners. That's what I'm saying. You think he's going to find his homeboy? Well, you got to find him a little something, you know, so it don't. A little something. a little slap on the wrist. They can fire him. They hire him. They can fire him. Like, they are the ones that says, okay, you're doing well for us. We're going to keep you for another whatever. We'll give you the use of a jet. We'll give you this, all this, lifetime this, whoop, whoop, whoop, all that. Why? Because he's making them a ton of money. And every now and then, one of the owners get out of line, and you know what?

56:33Hey, slap him on the wrist. Give him a$500 ,000 fine. Don't say this. Don't do that. And keep it moving. Although, you know, your team is worth$5 ,000,$6 billion. Get back to them, boy. Yep, you're exactly right. I mean, so I think he's going to do something if we do, if it gets loud enough. But, you know, if you don't find him, I want all NFL players to remember this, okay, that he did not find Jerry for getting caught giving fans fingers, so y 'all better not get fined for that either. You understand? NFL PA, executive director, where you at?

57:13James Harrison:Deebo, you think they might try to make something different of him because he was in the crowd, like because he was in the suite? Who cares? You flipping off fans at the game televised right there on TV. You ain't doing it on your own. Oh, no. You ain't not just, you know, televanting and all that. You right there. You representing your team, the NFL, the Shield, remember? No, for sure. I'm with you. You can't do anything that is going to tarnish the Shield. It negatively affects that shield. If that don't negatively affect the shield, a 95-year-old man giving somebody a finger and they matured up by the end, that's crazy.

57:52Yeah.

57:53James Harrison:Yeah, they're going to have to give them a slap on the wrist. I don't think they will. I don't think they will, Debo.

58:05Listen, that ain't, you know, like I said, hey, we'll see. We'll see, man. They don't pay Roger Goodell, what is it,$60,$70 million a year for nothing. He's doing something great for him. And I ain't going to lie to you. I used to hate Roger. I used to hate Roger. But listen, Roger, I still dislike your ass. You're still a bum to me. But I understand where you're coming from now. Because if I was you getting paid over the last whatever years it's been, 10, 15 years, anywhere from 40 something to$70 million a year. I think you done made close to $600 million since you've been, uh, uh, yeah, since you've been NFL commissioner, listen, I would let everybody call me every name under the sun.

58:51I would do exactly what it is that I am told to do. And I would sit there and, and, and, and keep it moving. I understand if I was in that position, I would probably do that. Because he works for them. Yes. That's your boss. Everybody don't realize that, that the boss is actually the 32 owners. Roger Goodell's boss is the 32 owners.

59:17James Harrison:Yeah. So that's why, I mean, at one point, I remember it was like, when I found out, it's 32 teams, and they said it was making like, at this point, it was probably like$60 million. So I'm like, okay, so it's$2 million per team, you know what I'm saying, paying them. So I'm like, oh, so each team just paying$2 million, and that's$64 million. You know what I'm saying? Don't forget Lifetime Jet use now. Lifetime Jet? Lifetime Jet. Private Jet. They ain't never got to put themselves in the public eye. Listen. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm not listening to you. I'm not listening to you players. Hey, I ain't listening to a word you saying.

59:55James Harrison:Shut up. I am deaf and mute. I'm mute.

1:00:02no you ain't lying like dude they go is making 25 billion dollars in revenue by 27 that's it

1:00:14yeah keep it yeah hey yes sir yes sir what up yep i hate roger yeah i hate you too i love you too I love you. I hate y 'all. Listen, no question. Listen, man. Speaking of issues, the Titans beat the Cardinals in a wild one, dude. Kyler Murray said that's how you lose a game one-on-one.

1:00:43Hey, man, how do you get an interception, fumble, other team recover from a touchdown? Y 'all thinking of new ways. I don't know how many times that happened. Y 'all thinking of new ways to get up.

1:00:58James Harrison:What about they damn running back, Debo? Boy, drop the ball. Why do people keep doing that? Hey, I don't understand. Listen. You don't look sweet. It don't. You don't look cool. Listen, what you need to do is next time, don't drop that ball. I'm going to tell my running backs, tell everybody going to the goal. when you score a touchdown, you can't drop the ball until you run out the back of the end zone. If you don't run out the back of the end zone, that ball better come back to the sideline. Hit your head on the goalposts. Come on, man. God, that's just dumb. And people keep doing it. It's just, it makes me so upset.

1:01:42James Harrison:Because I know, like, they're like, oh, yeah, celebrating. That's not making you look sweet. You don't look cool. You don't look like, yeah, okay, no, no. You look like an idiot. So just bring the ball all the way across the line, please. Listen, no. Go through the back of the end zone before you let that ball go. Don't let it go. Bring it home with you. Take it all away. Take it to the crib. That's your touchdown ball. Some people like to give them away and throw them around like this. Listen, don't let the ball go until you through the back of the end zone. But hold up. Did you see the video?

1:02:17Oh, my goodness. of the head coach can we play that video is there any way we can do that yay nay say dude let's put that video up now i understand it's a point in time where you know you got to motivate your player you know hey bro come on you got to get it together man hey that's all right we got you you know you you you tap them you know what i'm saying you get them you know you You get them going. Yeah. And this damn show wasn't one of those situations. No. No. You give them one, you know. And that's, I'm motivating you, though. Yeah. You can see the expression of motivation.

1:03:02James Harrison:Motivation. Not like I'm mad at you. Right. Like I'm trying to, like, I'm trying to. I'm trying to. You low key. Right. Like, I'm trying. And that's the head coach now. You know what I'm saying? That's Jonathan Gannon. So dude done dropped the ball, right? So as he drops the ball, it ends up being a touchback, blah, blah, blah. He gets to the sideline. You got a lineman there sitting there consoling my guy, right? You know, trying to tell him, duh, duh, duh. Coach runs up to him. Now, I only saw the first, only saw the first one where he hit him walking away. So the one that I hope that is going to be shown is going to be the one where he actually comes up.

1:03:40You can tell him he's dog fuck cussing him, right? He pops him in his chest. And then on the way out, dude's head is down. Just like he just, you know, he upset. He's sad. He's sad. He knows he fucked up. On the way out, he gives him like a right hook, bro, as he goes through. Please play it. Please play it. Damn.

1:04:05James Harrison:Oh, it's broadcast. We can't play this broadcast. Wow. What they need to go do, go look at the clip. They need to go see the clip. Go see the clip. All right. It's the actual head coach. Dude is sitting. He's standing there, sorry. And this lineman has got his arm around him, trying to consult him. He comes up and bombs him in his chest. After he bombs him in his chest, he hooks him as he walks off from the side. Now, listen. Man, Debo, don't even talk about how he was head to head with him, like all on his, like, zero personal space. No, yes. To hell with the personal space. You could get in my face.

1:04:44You could do all that, okay? You can't put your motherfucking hands on me. Bitch, you a head coach, first off. Gannon, whatever your name is, he should have bombed him with a cannon on that right hand he got and just slapped the piss out of him. how are you going to now as a man go home and be like uh yeah son I let this man hit me twice I'm losing my job Joe it's gonna take it's gonna take half the team to get me up off of him dude I had issues because I didn't allow coach to talk to me when I was a rookie any kind of way he my linebacker coach any kind of way he wanted to I'm like dude you go give me the same respect you get these vets.

1:05:32You don't have to give me any leniency or all that, but you're not going to talk to me crazy like I'm a kid. That's not going to happen. That's what got me cut. My rookie year, like, I'm not, yo, you're not about to talk to me like I'm a child, and you put your hands on me? Come on, man. How am I going to go home to my son? How am I going to go home to my son? How am I going to go home to my son, bro? He going to be like, hey, you ain't do nothing to that coach that put his hands on you, so I know you ain't going to do nothing to me.

1:06:01James Harrison:he'd be like, Dad, man, be quiet. You ain't sitting on the coach when he slapped up on you. Yeah. No, we can't do that. And then something else that threw me off is like, the players are standing right there. Nobody's like, yo, coach, calm down. Like, you don't hit nobody, bro, unless you want to get hit back. Unless you're ready to fight. What are we talking about? Mm-hmm. Like you said, James, it's a respect thing. And it's an understanding. It's a grown-ass man. That at the same time that you coming over there all mad, do you not think that he feels like a complete fool? Head down, bro. Head down like this.

1:06:41James Harrison:The lineman got his hand on him. Head down like sad. Got his hands consoling him. Yes. And you hit him. He bombed on him in his chest. And then he hit him with a hook on the way out. Like, where is he? it's no way on God's green earth I could let that go, bro. Yeah. Like, at what, like, you're the head coach. How are you going to address this? You got to address this. Like, you ain't got, you just dropped to the bottom person in your household. You ain't do nothing to that coach. That's what everybody going to say. You ain't do nothing to that coach. The locker room. Like, what we talking about?

1:07:24James Harrison:Yeah, that's not cool. That's not cool. What you going to do, Joe? What would be your response, Joe? I know I'm going to jail. Get my bail money.

1:07:37James Harrison:I think off the... It's definitely going to be... What the... Like, when he first woke up, I'm definitely addressing the situation. Like, I think I'm... I don't know. I'm not going to steal off on my coach. I'm just letting you know me off the rip. I'm not going to still off corner. He bombed on you twice. I'm probably, I'm going, no, no. I wouldn't have got hit twice. After the first bomb, I'm going, hum, pushing me like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Like, who the, like, we're going to talk. Like, I'm going to get my space back. Like, that's when, once he hit me in my belly, I'm pushing him off, and then it's going to be what it's going to be.

1:08:13James Harrison:Because now I'm hopefully like, I just don't, I just don't like people being all in my damn space like that. You know what? And I've had a couple situations in Cleveland with just coaches not rocking. I understand what you're saying now. So you reacting to the first one. All right, I got you. Maybe I won't - I'm reacting to the first - Yeah, because the first one - You might not end up in the field first. It's going to be that reaction. Boom, boom. It's going to be that reaction. It's going to be like, boom, boom. What the hell? What you got going? You know what I'm saying? You lost your mind.

1:08:42James Harrison:Then we - Now you lost your mind. Like, what's up? Now I'm looking at him. He's looking at me. I'm like, you just hit me. Now we - What's up? Like, what the fuck? You could talk. Right, so - You mad? you get something in between you, you know, somebody's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on here? Oh, yes. When you sitting there just taking it. And listen, I cannot, I'm not going to be able to sit there. If I'm the dude that's holding him and you come and just bomb on him, yo, slow your roll right there, coach. Like, is, are y 'all that afraid of this coach? I don't know. This is, this is not the first time he done did something like this.

1:09:17It can't be, you know, it's no way as a first time head coach, you bomb off on a player that dropped the ball going into the end zone on the sideline. And you're already up. They were up at that point. And you bomb on him? No.

1:09:33James Harrison:No. Yeah. It's just like you said, Debo. That physical stuff, why are you hitting another grown-ass man? Thank you. And it's not like a hype. Like, come on, baby, we get your pads up. Hey, man, come on. That's all right. We're going to get it back. Boom. You know, one of those. It ain't that. No, you frustrated. You trying to box. You mad. You ain't frustrated. You mad. You big mad, coach. That's what happens. You get mad. People get mad, and the first thing you want to do is you want to get your hands moving. You know what I'm saying? Like, think about it. You sitting there, and your kids do something, and you be like, whoa.

1:10:15Let me calm down.

1:10:16James Harrison:Let me calm down. Like, that's, like, the way I grew my patients, too, is my kids. My kids have made me a far more patient person than I ever would have been in my whole entire life. They saved my life. For sure. 110%. But me, today, reformed, far better than I was, still, like you said, would have had to react to that. Now, old me, the one that ain't had no kids, ain't had no responsibilities, I'd have went on ahead and got locked up. Yeah. It took the team, you know, it took four or five to pull me off him because I'd have been trying to put cleats all through his lip, face, and everything else.

1:11:06Yeah. Like, I'm supposed to go home, James and Henry looking at me like, hey, dad, don't say, shut the fuck up, dad. I'll be going to slap you in your mouth. You ain't the coach.

1:11:16James Harrison:Kids just start cussing you out. No, I'm sitting there like this. No, I'm sitting there like this. Nah, man. I can't have that, bro. I can't have that. Hey, man. No, no, no. Look here. Listen, bro. I want to let you know, brother, that I'm not upset that y 'all lost. I'm actually happy. I know you're a little upset. But you still over there in the UK, London, you know. Yes, man. I got my flight back. I get out of here tomorrow to come back. Okay, you out of here tomorrow. Oh, yeah. So we got to let know. We got to let them know. What's going to happen tomorrow, Joe? Man, we going to be off tomorrow because I'm going to be traveling.

1:12:04James Harrison:But we will be back on Friday for the Deebo and Joe show. back live 11 o 'clock with your Thursday night football recap, with your Monday night football recap, with your what's about to happen this weekend recap. Me and Deebo. Look here, baby. We will be back here on Friday. We want you to please like and subscribe, okay? We want to thank you guys for coming. Hey, who do we play next week, Joe? Who do we play next week, Joe? Who do we play? Oh, is it the brownies? Who do we play? Who is the we? You know who me is.

1:12:59James Harrison:Safe travels, bro. Oh, man. You know what I'm going to be? I'm neutral. What? I'm neutral. You neutral? What jersey do you win? And they play each other. What jersey do you win? I'm going to come in with a jersey. It's going to be a 2-3 jersey. Split. Half Browns, half Steelers. Like my tattoo. What tattoo? Bro, you better not have no Browns and Steelers tattoo on you. Yep. Right there. Bro, bro. You see that? Bro. Browns and Steelers. That ain't real. Bro. Ain't real. Ain't real. It's 50-50. It's Browns and Stellas on there. Hey, bro, look here. Who you looking to win in this matchup? That's what I want to know.

1:13:50James Harrison:Whoever deserves to win. Whoever plays a better, more no turnover. Who do you want to win, Joe? Whoever plays better in that stadium. Who do you want to win, Joe? It ain't about who plays. Who do you want to win? whoever plays better.

1:14:14James Harrison:Come on, I'm so glad I'm in London, Debo. Your eyes are saying so many words, like you want to put hands on me like that coach did. Here we are.

1:14:52We'll be right back.

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