Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Dolphins fall to 0-3 in loss Josh Allen & Bills, Steelers-Patriots preview

19 Sep 2025 · 58 min · 10 chapters

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Debo & Joe react to the Bills beating the Dolphins 31-21, then discuss Dolphins discipline/leadership issues, preview Bills vs. Josh Allen and Steelers-Patriots, and debate NFL officiating/league emphasis on the Eagles’ tush push.

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Key claims

  • Dolphins’ early success came from special teams (return to the 50) and fast “thunder and lightning” rushing/receiving (A-Chan and rookie RB Gordon), but critical mistakes swung it: roughing the punter and a late interception.
  • Tua’s deep passing was limited; many completions were short/behind the line, with turnovers/fumbles on key downs.
  • Reports of Dolphins players being late reflect disrespect for McDaniel; repeated tardiness should trigger progressive discipline with real financial/suspension consequences.
  • Antonio Pierce argues Tom Brady will use broadcaster access to help the Raiders despite restrictions.
  • League training video aims to prevent offsides/false starts on the tush push.

Notable examples

  • Bills drives: James Cook repeatedly getting first downs; Allen fake bubble screen to a tight end.
  • Dolphins: Tyreek Hill and Waddle conversions on third downs and a four-minute drill before halftime.

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Reaction to Dolphins vs. Bills Game

0:45 to 1:24

In-depth analysis of the Dolphins' performance against the Bills, discussing pivotal plays and player performances.

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Reaction to Dolphins vs. Bills Game

2:25 to 6:40

In-depth analysis of the Dolphins' performance against the Bills, discussing pivotal plays and player performances.

“The Dolphins, they came out to fight, dog.”

Critical Mistakes in the Game

6:40 to 9:04

Discussion on the critical mistakes made by the Dolphins, including turnovers and penalties that affected the game outcome.

“Well, you know, that was from the missed field goal.”

Eagles Performance Analysis

9:37 to 20:40

A deep dive into Jalen Hurts and the Eagles' performance so far this season.

“All of their completions were behind the line of scrimmage.”

James Cook's Game Impact

20:40 to 32:40

Discussion on James Cook's performance and its significance to the Bills' success.

“stuff because you know you're going to be able to get away with stuff and your team can look at it a certain way and just showing up late, that's just not the way that's supposed to move.”

Dad Mug Revelation

32:40 to 51:40

Light-hearted conversation about a 'greatest dad ever' mug and the implications.

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Acting Career Discussion

51:40 to 56:00

Hosts share insights about acting roles and experiences in the entertainment industry.

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Wrestling Training During Lockdown

56:00 to 56:49

The hosts discuss their training experiences during lockdown, including wrestling and critiques.

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2:09Welcome to the Debo and Joe show. I am your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co-host Joe Hayden. Make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. We got it all right here. Joe, how you doing this morning, buddy?

2:27James Harrison:I'm doing good, brother Debo. Man, having a great night. Watching football, man. The Bills-Dolphins game. It was a great game to see. Great game to see. Oh, yeah, for sure, man. The Dolphins, they came out to fight, dog. They came out to fight. You know what's so crazy is I talked to somebody before, and I'm like, dude, watch the Bills go out here and lose this game, dude. I'm like, they done came back on the Ravens, you know. They went and stomped the lights out the Jets. I'm like, they are primed for a letdown. They're probably thinking that, you know, Miami go come in here, woe is me. Maybe, you know, they already had a players-only meeting week one.

3:08So, you know, you're at home. It's a short week. and the whole time I'm thinking, dude. You thought they were going to sneak up on them? Dude, I thought they was going to sneak up on them, dude. I mean, when you look at it, I mean, barely. I mean, they came through. You know, it was 31-21. They came through. They won the game. But as soon as the first quarter started, dude, Miami goes down there. They score on, what, 10 plays. Took up almost six, almost seven minutes off the clock and went in for seven. Made it look easy. I mean, it was a short field. It was only like 50 yards. It popped off the special teams.

3:44James Harrison:That's the way you start the game off. You know what I'm saying? Special teams popped off with a great return. They got it at the 50. I'll tell you one thing. A-Chan was balling. You know what I'm saying? Just getting the ball in his hands. I don't think Tua did anything too impressive in the first drive. He just getting the ball. He didn't throw the ball over five yards. Completed the first, the third and fourth of Tyreek Hill, getting him involved. But I think A-Chan and, what's my other man? A-Chan and Gordon, number 31, the rookie running back. Thunder and lightning. Them dudes, A-chance, the more speed guy, you know what I'm saying, dumping it to him.

4:15James Harrison:He was doing a run game and catching out the backfield. And then Gordon being able to power it in, you know what I'm saying? So that first drive, it looked really impressive. But the same thing I was saying, too, Tua didn't have to do too much, you know what I'm saying, getting it to the hands of his, you know what I'm saying, athletes. He got some playmakers. Like Tyreek Hill was out there hooping. Fair shout out to Tyreek. For sure, for sure. Then you come back and the Bills get the ball and what is it, 85, 90 yards they go? 10 plays and they score. Brother, brother, brother. Ain't nobody coming to play defense this week.

4:47Like, what's going on?

4:48James Harrison:It was James Cook. It was James Cook. Oh, no question. Did you see? Every time he touched the ball, it was for first down. It was 10. It was 10. It was first down. He was just telling me, he was cutting through there, running the ball with patience. You know what I'm saying? With burst. You know what I'm saying? That, it looked good. So him and then Josh Allen with the little fake bubble screen. You know what I'm saying? and then dropped the dime to the tight end, put it in. Ball placement was on the money. So, like, those first two drives, both teams go down, score. I'm thinking for sure it's going to be a high-scoring game.

5:19It looked good. No question. Well, I think the next thing was basically Buffalo getting down there. And, you know, I think they missed a field goal or something, dude. Like, it was –

5:32James Harrison:They scored on their first two possessions, and then they drove it down on their third. Right. They did. Yeah, they scored the very next one. They was walking the joint down, and that was when Tua got in. He was pulling the snaps, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, they shorted. I think they had a penalty. Actually, they were still driving now, I think, about the second drive. They were still driving, and they had penalties that slowed them down, and they weren't able to convert. And then they went on down there, scored on them again, and it was 14-7 then. And so, you know, I'm thinking it's still a chance because they were able to drive down.

6:10They let, you know, some penalties, you know, slow them down.

6:14James Harrison:And the good thing was, too, in the first half that Miami did a good job of converting on first downs. So that second, the next drive, when they ended up scoring before halftime, Tyreek Hill, they converted four first down, four third down conversions. Tua used his feet on one and three to Tyreek Hill, a third and 12, like a third and seven and a third and five. He converted all three of those to get down there, and they ended up scoring before half when Waddle caught that slant. You know what I'm saying? Getting in the end zone. So they got the ball with four minutes. That was an amazing four-minute drill.

6:44Well, you know, that was from the missed field goal. The missed field goal, they were able to go ahead and – They was able to get down there. Again, a short field and able to get down there and go ahead and get seven. Now they tied up at halftime, so, you know, they in a fight. You know, right now you done gave Miami some hope, you know? and they like, you know, we could go out here and do this.

7:04James Harrison:I think it was a tale of two halves because the first half, it was 14-14. And then on the second half, defense third quarter wasn't too much action. Well, Josh Allen then came out off the rip first drive in the third quarter. So that put it to 21-14, but not too much more action was going on in the third. A lot of punts, you know what I'm saying? But it was the fourth quarter that really was the tale of the game. A defensive play in the third. But that fourth quarter, man, when they got the stop, you know what I'm saying? Two of them went down. They scored. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's tied up 21-21 now.

7:36James Harrison:21-21. And then they get a stop. The tide of the game could be changing. And they go for the punt, and my man runs into the punter, which changes the whole trajectory of the game. You know what I'm saying? Then they go down there and score. So puts the game to 28-21. And I think that was just that's those are the mistakes that you cannot make if you want to beat. You know what I'm saying? The Buffalo Bills. You can't beat yourself. They were in the fight. They were getting them to punt. They were forcing them to punt. They didn't drive down there scoring. So that was twenty one, twenty one. We get in the ball.

8:08James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? They were doing a good job converting. They made the fourth down, fourth and four, got down there and scored. So when you're playing the Bills, though, those are the mistakes that you can't make. mm-hmm yeah for sure so my um I mean I think they still had a chance until you know you got to that that last you know that last interception right there I think it was maybe three minutes or so left whatever it was and um you know you're going in to you know possibly get seven and then you know you had an interception and that you know to me that basically sealed the deal that definitely Yeah, that killed everything that was going, man.

8:48You know, the best, I think the biggest thing that they did is they showed that they wasn't dead, dude. Like, yeah, we had a players only meeting week one, but, you know, that was to get to where we are now. And, I mean, they didn't come away with the win, but the mindset, the way they play, you know, except for, you know, certain parts of it. The biggest thing is Buffalo, they made the plays when they counted. The defense made the stops and the offense made the scores, you know, or a pick, whatever it may be. They kept the game close as long as they could. But, you know, the second half came and I think what helped them keep it close to was Buffalo.

9:28I mean, they had some they had some drop passes, you know, they had some some penalties that that were, you know, stalling them in that second half. So that that helped, you know, Miami be able to keep it close. and of course the roughing the kicker and the late interception that was just you can't

9:45James Harrison:crush them I think they they kept it close man it was a really really good game you know I'm saying there's gonna be good plays gonna be bad plays gonna be penalties here and there uh keeping it 14 to 14 going into halftime was all good like you said like when I the the roughing the roughing the punter that started the whole thing but for real when you finish the game off with that pick they're driving down you're making plays you're you're getting the ball you're actually you're hitting waddle on some on some five and outs you're converting on third downs that was just a basic smash concept running back fast to the flats three on three over there he looked directly where he was going and that brought my man shut up right up straight through soon as he looked over there he ran and then it's three he threw the ball right to him so you kind of that's just mistakes that you can't make you gotta look look at all if you know where you're going over there as soon as you brought your eyes over there defense is tall in zone we're moving where the quarterback's eyes are going yes he didn't look you off to right if he looked him off on that and then turned straight to it and got it to it he wouldn't have been that close he wouldn't have not been that close but him looking instantly soon as he got the ball from the snap bringing his eyes there oh he broke on it like like a rock like a rock like he's instantly you know i'm saying so just those mistakes that you cannot make there and i i'm not this is here for a two-a-bashing, but he didn't throw the ball well deep at all.

11:06James Harrison:All of their completions were behind the line of scrimmage. He was getting it to A-chain. He was getting it in Tyreek Hill's hand. I mean, except for those three big third downs, yeah. But no, those were the one where he scrambled away. That was about a 12-yard pass. That was maybe one of the deepest was. The one with Tyreek Hill got. He passed it seven yards. Tyreek Hill went back, dipped down, and got missing on people, you know what I'm saying, made eight yards after catch. Straight air yards, I see what you're saying, yeah. A lot of the stuff was just underneath dicks and dunks. And then when we needed to make plays, I mean, he kind of turned it over or was fumbling with the snaps on third downs.

11:41James Harrison:Just little things that we can't have when we're not – I'm not asking you to win the game for us, but I'm asking you to just do a little more simple thing. Just keep the turnovers down. Don't put us in positions to lose because at the end of the day, you're not doing too much. You're getting in the players' hands, but the ball being thrown down the field, it's not – It's a difference between hurting me and not helping me. A thousand percent. Yeah, you're hurting me if you're turning the ball over. If you're not scoring, yeah, you're not helping me, but you're not hurting me. You're giving me the opportunity to go back out there and do what it is that we can do to try and keep it close.

12:22But, you know, picks, you're hurting me there. That's taking points off the board that, you know, that could have put us in a position that, you know, we're looking at possibly going down there the next, you know, next drive and seeing if we can't get an onside kick or something and see if we come through with it. But that opportunity was just, you know, snatched away in the last, you know, in the last few minutes of the game. Like I said, the two critical mistakes, though.

12:48James Harrison:Yeah, those two big ones, man. Roughing the punter and that pick, that's not winning football. And Josh Allen, he's not turning the ball over. They did it like on the first half. They only had three possessions in the whole first half of the game. You know what I'm saying? So the Dolphins were holding the ball, doing – Whatever, yeah. Keeping the ball away from them. They won seven minutes. Another one was close to six and some change. You know, they were holding on to the ball. I mean, at the end of the game, though, it was still almost even, you know, close to 30-30. For sure, for sure, for sure.

13:18James Harrison:But three possessions in the first half is good. And then they scored on two of them. You know what I'm saying? So I think they're moving in the right direction, but you just can't turn the ball over and make critical mistakes if you're trying to win the game. You stayed in it. You did good. But it's not a bastion. Like you said, they fought. They looked like they didn't give up on it. They didn't give up. You know what I'm saying? That didn't look like a team that didn't want to go out there and try to win that football game. You think they'd take some type of moral victory out of this even though they didn't win?

13:46James Harrison:you know what it is there's no moral victories in it you know once you lose you lose all of that stuff is going to be the same you took an L on the win-loss sheet I would hope just you could take the good for what it is but at the end of the day I'm not a fan of the moral you lost you know what I'm saying but you still I'm looking at exactly what I did wrong so that we can correct that next time and make sure we come out with that win that moral victory stuff I ain't never been on it I ain't never I think you lost man Oh, yeah, you lost. It's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. So I guess before the game, they had some reports surfaced about players, you know, being late for meetings and having disciplinary issues.

14:28According to ESPN, tardiness was an issue through last season. One current Dolphin player said he believes some captains that this past season took advantage of the role. Hmm. They said Ramsey, wide receiver Tyreek Hill were two of the eight voted captain in 2024. They were among repeat offenders who received numerous fines throughout the seasons, throughout the season. What do you what do you think of of, you know, players like repeatedly being late? You know, they said players were often late to practice meetings with multiple team sources suggesting this reflecting the lack of respect for McDaniels, who was hesitant to publicly, I guess, discipline these guys for outside of posting fines.

15:21James Harrison:Well, let's keep this real, though, Debo. Well, you know, we've been both apart. We've been in the league a long time. And you know what I'm saying? I know you've been a part of the Steelers. I was a part of the Steelers and the Browns. And let me just ask you, just how do you feel about this, about players being late to meetings? Because I know we're going to be real on our show, Debo. That's what we talked about earlier. Real conversations, real things that go on. So I know, what do you feel about tartness of players? And how do you think this is? So my thing on it is you should never be late.

15:55It's nothing that... can go on that that that should make you late because you should be leaving with enough time to get there all that other stuff now i understand where you get certain players get different privileges okay i understand that because with time you know like like bust uh like but uh would say he says the three t's if over time you tell me the truth i'll learn to trust you so as i build a relationship with that player and I know you know what their demeanor is and how they actually operate if he comes late one time or something happens and you're late okay I could scrub that but you know if you come late again you can't scrub that you know and it's a reason that we have the um what they call it the the code of conduct it's called um conduct detrimental okay So it's what is they call progressive discipline.

17:00Right. So a team has the option of finding you on your first offense. OK. And they can find you up to a max of like I think it's 40 percent or whatever that max fine is. The second time is 70 percent. And the third time is 100 percent of that max fine. Now, that max fine can be a week's salary all the way up to and including suspension without pay for four weeks. so when you get guys that are just repeated fenders only way you can get any kind of control is to actually go to the further spectrum of it that you can because everybody cares about their money you telling me i got four weeks of playing and not getting paid that's that's not that's not something somebody is going to sign up for or do if they know that you know what after my second third time after my third time this is what's going to happen now when you get coaches that are like okay I'm going to find you and they find you 2 ,500 and they find you 3 ,000 and they find you 5 ,000 and you never get to that find of what they call that real money then it's not going to stop them you know what I'm saying like especially if you got a player that's you know you're making half a million dollars a week or whatever you you don't even notice that you just thinking some extra taxes came out you know what I'm saying so unless the coach makes it a point to do that like I don't know what happens in New England if you're late like I when when Bill was there like I don't know what happens I honestly they had me so scared I was just I seen time I'm sitting in my locker like this, dude.

18:58And I kind of catch a glimpse of somebody running and it's time. He ran into the meeting. I'm like, oh, oh shit, I'm about to be late. So I jump up and I start running in there, everybody in there. But the meeting don't start for like another like five minutes, three, five minutes or something. So it's obviously something there happens that don't nobody want a piece of because nobody is late. also something else they did was your uh your phones you can't have your phone in the meeting it can't be in your pocket it can't be nowhere right so I don't know this so I'm walking in and as I'm walking in I see like 40 phones just sitting on the floor and I see another dude come past and pull his phone out his pocket and throw it on the floor I'm like well shit I bet I better throw my phone on the floor too you know I'm not about to go and catch something you know what I'm saying so i think when you have a coach that is a player's coach that's a good thing but when you have a coach that's too much of a player's coach that's a bad thing because now he's not going to go to that point of actually being that you know that that disciplinarian because he may want to keep a certain relationship with that player or not upset that player who knows you know what it

20:13James Harrison:may be i would say we can go with this too though debo mostly we're talking about star players here because if you're not a good player and you're coming up late you're not going to be there long you know what i'm saying so i think that most of the time you say you everybody gets treated fairly but not everybody gets treated the same right the vets they got to show the respect and know that's they get treated a certain way and you can respect that or you could try to get away with stuff because you know you're going to be able to get away with stuff and your team can look at it a certain way and just showing up late, that's just not the way that's supposed to move.

20:49James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Take advantage of their privilege. You know what I'm saying? When I was in Cleveland, there was really no too much hierarchy. You know what I'm saying? You learn to get respect from somebody, like you said. You learn trust and time, and that's how you develop it. In time, you have to show me that you're going to be on time. You got to show me that you're going to be in the place you're supposed to be, and then I'll trust you. You know what I'm saying? to be able to give you some agency, know that you have to develop. You're going to be on time all the time. And I know this is just, this is the way that you are.

21:18James Harrison:So if something happens, then I mean, this is, oh man, this isn't Joe. Something, matter of fact, might've happened with his family. Let's make sure he's okay. You know what I'm saying? Not just, no, he just doesn't show up to these meetings because it might be a Friday, Thursday night. He goes out on Thursdays. He show up late to the special teams meeting. Like that's just not a way, you know what I'm saying? You want to discover a spectacular island destination with crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze. Baja Mar, located in Nassau, Bahamas, offers your choice of three luxury hotels, over 45 fine dining and nightlife venues, Jean Batiste's all-new jazz club, the Caribbean's most luxurious casino, and one-of-a-kind experiences for the entire family, like our 15-acre tropical water park, wildlife sanctuary, world-class golf course, and so much more.

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23:07James Harrison:The Rock. So when I'm reading into this, it's more like they're talking about good players trying to take advantage of knowing the coach is not going to be as hard on them. Do you know what I'm saying? And I don't think... Well, it's also, like you said, it's the coach, you know? Yeah, no, no, for sure, for sure. That doesn't, you know, do what is necessary. You know what I'm saying? I guess they said player-driven leadership has always been emphasized under McDaniels. His style, as one current player described it, is laid back without being hands off. Former Dolphins player who played for McDaniels said coach was always open and vulnerable with his players, which he thinks players misconstrued as being soft.

23:51I very much think that is misconstrued as being soft because you're in a game where it is a bunch of really aggressive alpha type males in any form, especially if I like if I don't have a strong or I don't build I ain't built a relationship with you, Joe. and you know i go and i i tell you something that that you see a different side of me and you like yo he's maybe he a little soft you know what i'm saying like that's a real thing but with you knowing me and me discussing something with you on on a on a more of a personal level it's like okay he must really be going through something because i know this is not what he does and he respects

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24:35James Harrison:me enough to be like man is a man gonna come to me and tell me something you don't say that He don't really talk about too much. So when you're a person that's just open and vulnerable to everyone. Yeah. I'm like, for me, that that that would seem that would seem soft. Like and I can see how, you know, like like my mom told me when I was a kid, dude, she was like, they go take kindness for weakness. So that's why I was always kind of standoff as me mugging. I had, you know, I got I got resting what they call, you know, for me. face but that's that's just me because that's what I was taught they take kindness for weakness you know so so don't run around here being happy and jolly and goo goo laughing they looking at somebody they think they can get over on and you know that's just how I was you know that's how I was brought up what do you think I think that I feel this I know exactly what you're saying um I think with this situation, I think that it's just, so we talking about with Jalen and Mike McDaniel?

25:37James Harrison:Yeah, yeah. With McDaniels and his situation of being, you know, they're saying he's being misconstrued as being soft. Him not being as disciplined and strict with his enforcement, you know, of not, you know. No, no, no, for sure, for sure, for sure. I think that they can get that misconstrued. You know, like you said, it's a bunch of grown men in the thing. And when you have a head coach that's kind of letting certain people get away with things and not holding them accountable, that could really just show a lack of discipline. It shows envy and jealousy to other guys, too, though. A thousand percent.

26:11And then it starts that with other guys. And then, you know, on top of that, some guys like, yo, well, if he letting him do that, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that, too. And I'm like, if he don't do it.

26:23James Harrison:I'll give you a proper example, Debo. I'll speak it to when I really came. When I came to the Pittsburgh Steelers, I've never not stayed in the hotel at a home game. That's something that everybody, no matter what, Phil Dawson, you're 15 years in. You better check into the hotel. You're going to have your meetings there at the home game and little late meetings. Do your dinner and then bed check. You know what I'm saying? At the home games. When I came to Pittsburgh, the OGs, veterans, Pounceys, you know what I'm saying? After the home meeting, they was like, oh, yeah, bet. We going home. They're going home.

26:54James Harrison:They have a family. They're like, Joe, what you about to do? I'm like, man, I don't know. Because they don't tell you if you're a vet, you can stay. But that's just the way. That's the unknown, unwritten rule. You got to be a vet. You're OG. You can go stay at the crib. Do you know what I'm saying? So I was like, man, he's like, where you going to go? I said, I'm going to go home. The trust of Pouncey, you got grown men. They're not going to go out to the club before the game. When we wake up early in the morning, I'm trying to go home, pick up my family, go get everybody right, and then come back to the stadium.

27:21James Harrison:It's like, why am I making this extra step when you trust me as a man? I'm not going out. I'm not going to go get seen. I'm trying to go take care of my body. I'm going to get my family, sleep in my own bed, and then head to the game. You know what I'm saying? Like, then when you see the young dudes, like, no, I'm probably going to stay in my crib. No, you can't. You know what I'm saying? You're not a vet. Then you mess around and be out. You know what I'm saying? And that's just a whole different situation. The trust of them knowing, Joe, where you at? And then they would call, yo, I'm at the crib.

27:46James Harrison:They're, all right, bet. See you tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's something that people could take advantage of. You could. As if I wanted to, I could go out to the club. I could have went out, did something crazy. But that's not professional. That's not what professionals do. My job is to get ready for the game. And Coach T, as a man, was letting me go home and take that step out of waking up super early, having to go to my crib, get my body worked on, get my family, bring them to the game, and then work that whole situation. He's like, no, Joe, you have a process. You going, where you going?

28:17James Harrison:To my family? See you tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? So that just was the respect factor. And, like, other teams, they don't care. Phil Dawson was a grown man. He's not going to go out. But no matter what, the Browns are like, I don't care. You play for the Browns. You're staying in this hotel with the team, period. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just, I don't care what you're going to do. I ain't going to lie. I like that. I like that. I love that. You're staying in the hotel with the team. You're here to get a job done. Everything else outside of that should be not even a part of what we got going on.

28:51I understand you got a family at home. You got to do this. You got to do that. You got to have wifey, have everything set up, ready and go. And so when you get there, everything is coordinated so that you can boom, bam, bam. Because I think when you get into situations like that, like you said, you're going to go home and stay there. But who says that the vet that's, you know, Joe Blow didn't decide the one time that he thought he had a soft game. Let me run down here with the boys real quick and be here or there. Now, whether word gets back or not, he gets, you know, he gets that privilege. And it's not like he's not going to tell somebody, you know what I'm saying?

29:31So now the other guys is foaming at the mouth waiting for their opportunity and chance to be a vet to do the same thing. So like situations like that, I'm like, nah, like when I played for Cowher, I didn't care. It didn't matter. But Jerome Bettis stayed in the Hall of Famer. He stayed in the hotel.

29:47James Harrison:No, I'm not going home. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not saying that that's a bad thing either. I'm not saying it's a bad thing either. I'm just saying that it's a I respect it. And especially if you want to be that's the thing of taking advantage of your thatness. You know what I'm saying? Like if you do have things that you can do, don't disrespect. But I think also it puts guys in a position, especially if you're a vet, where you know what? That night at the hotel, before the game, I ain't got to worry about nothing at home. I ain't got to worry about nothing at home. But you have the option.

30:22This is where I think it causes issues for the players and the families. You don't have to stay there. Wife said, you ain't got to stay there. Why are you staying there? He don't want to say, I don't want to deal with this. It's a restful night. I want to get ready for the game. So now all of a sudden, maybe he got to go home when he ain't want to.

30:40James Harrison:See that? But how is old? Because old ladies, you talking about old ladies talking. Well, Joe at the crib. Right. At the crib. Right. Oh, no. That's crazy. I feel you, though. It could. It could. Yeah. It just opens up another window. I'm just saying I'm not knocking it. I feel where you're coming from because it gets to have other people just looking, trying to get to where they're going. why they're getting to do other stuff. But that's why I say you're treating people fairly, but not everybody gets treated the same. I could see the same way of nobody can't go. You know what I'm saying? But then there's reasons why I would see why they could go.

31:17James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? They're going to go to the crib, like even if they're legitimately going to go, because these dudes do have stuff going on. Or you don't have to go. It's just an option that I just thought was dope that if you're on a team that you can respect it best because that's the relationship part where you can take advantage of it or you don't. No, for sure. For sure. Speaking of responsibilities, former Raiders head coach Antonio Pierce said it's foolishness to believe that Tom Brady won't use his access as a broadcaster to help the team. He said this is unprecedented what we're seeing.

31:52I think I would be uncomfortable if it was the other way around, to be honest with you, because you're not dealing with just a normal person. Tom Brady is the elite of elite, one of the greatest quarterbacks, one of the greatest players in the game. It's not hard for him to watch a few things on Friday or hear things in a production meeting and be like, have tidbits. You'd be foolish. He said, and you'd be foolish enough to think that he's not going to share with the Raiders because we had those conversations about certain things. my thing is this i don't um i don't understand how like they're saying oh well he can't go to the production meetings he can't but you allow him to still interview them and talk to them he's going to get the same thing with just he just can't go to the to the facility to do it you know he can't he can't be at you know at the hotel to do it like yeah but he still gets interviewed him he can interview them off campus i mean off uh off site in person or he could talk to him and interview him that way you're still getting that information and for them to think that like you got a whole crew like it's fox these that's what these guys do even if he's not there he didn't go to the practice these guys that's all they do is football they're going to talk football even with him just sitting there with them he's going to get things and he's going to be privileged to him like when it comes down to him being in the actual booth on the headset that is crazy so now i'm just playing devil's advocate he didn't tell a coach he didn't say nothing to a coach but he on the headset who actually is in communication with either the coach or a player who is he talking to i don't know who he taught jerry jones don't even get in the coach's box and put the headset on but tom a minority owner is in the box with a headset on at the coach's box who is he talking to like what is he saying like I don't this is this is going to get like real I think this is going to get messier before it gets cleared up if they don't figure out something because the next time this comes around I don't I don't know how they can not let whoever it may be do it you know what is your even like if it's me you know what I'm saying like me being James Harrison and I got that you know position I got I got I got 375 you know from Fox and then I'm a minority owner of the team I'm not gonna do it because they go bust my ass you know what I'm saying but if I'm Tom Brady I'm Tom Brady they love me they fought for me to do this yeah I might do it I probably would do it what they go do go and find out that I did it and didn't have to tell that what we said he wasn't going to do, he did.

34:39So, you know, if I'm Tom, I might go ahead and do it. Where you at with it?

34:47James Harrison:Man, Tom's showing us what he's going to do. Tom Brady going ahead and doing it. Like you said, they want him in here. They trying to bend the rules for him to be in there. I don't think. Not trying. They did. They did it. He's in there. Now he's in the booth on the headset. Like you said, who is he talking to? I don't know. The quarterback, the coach, I don't know who he's talking to. Gary Jones got his hand in everything, and he don't even do that. With the production meetings and stuff and him not being able to be there, not being able to be present, so they're going to have production meetings also with his team before they get on the show just to talk, just to vibe, just to figure out what he gets.

35:20But he gets to introduce. He still gets to talk to them. He's just not allowed to do it on site. He's not there on site. No. So he could have them come to another site, or he could meet them at another site and talk to them, or he could still, I guess, phone or Zoom, whatever it may be, and talk to them. He just can't be there. You're still getting the information.

35:38James Harrison:James, I'm saying the same thing you're saying, brother. I'm saying the same thing you're saying. I don't think that – I think Tom Brady's getting himself in a situation that – well, like you said, they want him to be there. He's already there. I don't think that as – if I was in that position too, I mean, he has two jobs. It's the owner of the team, the minority owner of the Raiders, and it's the CBS job where he's making, what is it, like 50-something. He got 375 for 10, so about$37.5 a year. He's going to have to, in my, I would have, you got to give up one because no matter what, if you stay doing the meetings, however you're doing those meetings, not being there, you're still being able to interview the people, there's going to be questions.

36:23James Harrison:And I don't know if he cares about, if he doesn't care about the questions and he's going to go ahead and keep going through it, Tom Brady shoot for it. But just know, being in those production, not being in those production meetings, but still working for them, having two jobs at the same time, an owner, and just having conflict of interest is going to be a question that people are going to ask. If you're not doing it, it just looks still crazy. So the questions that people are going to ask you aren't going to go anywhere if you're just continuing to work for two like spots. You know what I'm saying?

36:52It's just two. It's not even two. It's opposites. You actually getting – that'd be like you being able to go and interview everybody and then go play a game against these boys, and you getting all the little nooks and crannies, and you get to ask all the questions, and they thinking, hey, it's Joe. He ain't – well, with it being time, I was like, it's time. I'm going to tell him whatever, blah, blah, blah, especially young guys. They don't know no better. You know what I'm saying?

37:21James Harrison:I feel you, brother. I don't think it's going to be – it's not going nowhere. The questions aren't going nowhere. We're going to see what the access looks like, and it's happening. Yeah, for sure. And what we were talking about the other day with the Eagles, they're going to take a close look at this tush push now. The league officially is trying to make sure it doesn't happen again. They said it was a false start that should have been called. So the league training video for officials, which get shared with coaches and general managers included showing the Eagles false start and an instruction that the officials ensure the offense isn't getting away with penalties on a tush push.

38:02These dudes is lining up in the neutral zone. They're taking off first. They're doing everything. Yes, they need to go ahead and put their eyes on that thing, slow it down. You want to slow down anytime you got somebody getting hit and the defender barely grazes his helmet with the top of their thing and the first thing they announced is they say, yep, that was helmet to helmet. Yes, it's time for the offense to get the same thing and slow it down for y 'all. Like, I don't find no issue with it.

38:33James Harrison:I'm a thousand percent fine with this. It's just because it's just like, and you know what happens too, when the league does stuff like this and makes sense out the videos and set out the films, it's going to get addressed. You know what I'm saying? So they're going to make sure they're going to have to line up the correct way. They're going to have to snap the ball. The center is going to have to be the first person to move the ball so everybody fires off on the same time. I'm not against the tush push at all. I'm just against people lining up off sides when I'm starting it. You know what I'm saying?

38:59James Harrison:Not legal. You know what I'm saying? If it's not a legal play, if you line up legally, everybody's head is behind the ball and the ball is snapped and y 'all end up pushing people through because you can still push now. You know what I'm saying? So you can still get behind. I thought you wasn't allowed to push at one point. You couldn't. They said you weren't until 2005. they made a rule that because they said the referees weren't able to tell or they couldn't it was hard to make make the call so they just got rid of it in 2005 so now you're able to push people in the back you know what i'm saying so now since until they get rid of that rule just take that out you can tell somebody's pushing somebody or pulling somebody forward like i don't think that that that call is that hard so if they can i don't know i i agree with him like you don't know if he's pushing or if he's trying to push somebody else that's on the side of him or something like that.

39:44I understand that.

39:46James Harrison:Man, all this damn slow motion, you can't tell somebody pushing somebody? Well, hey, hey, hey, yeah. Hell no. They don't want to slow that down. That's the difference between no points and six points. Blow the whistle faster. Once a month is standing up, blow the whistle. Stop letting all that little swaying and pushing and pulling. That's what get people hurt. Running up on the pile, they standing up in the offensive line and just running there and throw themselves in there. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Stop it. Blow the whistle, ref. He stood up. You know what I'm saying? I think something else they need to pay attention to is making sure the center is not off-sized.

40:20Like, he got this thing so deep under him. Like, his head is over the ball.

40:24James Harrison:And if it's slow, and they're looking at the play, and they see him with his head over the ball, flag. Flag. Off-rick. Off-rick. What are we talking about? The percentage of the tush push, I believe, will drop significantly this year after they've made a conscious effort to actually point it out. I ain't going to lie, Deebo. I don't think it's going to change. I think they're going to still just line. I think they might line them up because I don't think they do it every single time that they just fire off before. I saw two times they did it the last time. Last time they did it. The one time wasn't that obvious.

41:03but that second time was second time was late. It looked like the center was trying to watch when they took off and then snap it. You can't see that. You can't tell. It's so fast. They're slowing it down. Stop, bro. I don't even need to slow that down. I saw that. I saw that in Pittsburgh. I saw that in real time. No question. It's no way. It's no way, dude. Discover a spectacular island destination with Crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze. Baja Mar, located in Nassau, Bahamas, offers your choice of three luxury hotels, over 45 fine dining and nightlife venues, Jean Batiste's all-new jazz club, the Caribbean's most luxurious casino, and one-of-a-kind experiences for the entire family, like our 15-acre tropical water park, wildlife sanctuary, world-class golf course, and so much more.

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42:57at womensprobaseballleague.com slash tickets. And for them to actually have to admit it and then tell the people, oh yeah, we should have called that, we missed it. Dude, they're going to judge this way more strict. It's going to be like when they started doing the so-called player safety. And boy, they was calling everything. Everything. It was the hit too hard flag after that. That's it. That's what it turned into, the hit too hard flag.

43:25James Harrison:You hit him too hard. Did he get up? Nope. Flag. Nope. Is he rolling around? Yep. Flag. Flag. Get him up out of here. Get him up out of here. Get him up out of here, man. You go. Telling you, that's what they was doing? Oh, man. Hold on. Eagles win. So the Eagles are down 2-0, but their offense is less than impressive, buddy. Yeah. Jalen says they rank 29th in total offense, 31st in the passing. Jalen Hurts, six, not even six, 5.6 yards per attempt. It's 24th. Hurts said he takes a lot of accountability for a lot of it and just how we go out there because that's my job. My job is to go out there and be the general orchestra, everything.

44:19Generally orchestrate everything. and ultimately make plays.

44:26Do you think he's playing well? Or do you think he's just playing well because everything else around him is good enough to let him play the way he's been playing and come away with the wins?

44:40James Harrison:I think he's playing good enough to win. I think he's playing winning enough football. They have a great team. That's the good part. The thing that I realize about them is the Eagles are a solid team. They got special teams. They got defense. They got running game. They have the weapons. You know what I'm saying? So he's not asked to do as much as other quarterbacks are asked to do. So wanting his numbers to be crazy or wanting his numbers to be ridiculous, I think he's going to start getting into the groove. Right now, I'm not saying he's playing in any type of crazy way, but like we said before, it's so much easier to go and study the film and see what you did wrong from a win than a loss.

45:18James Harrison:And it's still only the second week of the season, they're 2-0, not 0-2. So it's not like they're nothing like everything's falling apart. They still, he still can improve in his passes, obviously. They only had two passes over 15 yards this whole, since the season started. So definitely just being able to get some more, give Devontae some more opportunities, give some more deep passes down the field. I mean, it's not, it's nothing to panic about, but still at the same time, he's never going to give you 400, 500 yards passing. He's going to always just make sure that the team is on, they stay above the chains, handing off to Saquon, making sure he converts and uses his legs.

45:55James Harrison:And when they get tight, using that tush push, you know what I'm saying? So he's never really asked to do extremely too much, but when he is asked to do something, like when it gets to the playoffs right now, this is the regular season, the beginning of the season. We know what Jalen Hurst is capable of. We know what their team has done before. So I'm not going to always like say, Oh no, Jalen, your numbers aren't crazy. You're two and O you're figuring it out. It's the beginning of the season. I trust in you. I know you're watching tape. I know you're doing the thing that need to be done for you to continue to get better throughout the season and hopefully try to get to the Super Bowl and win another one.

46:26James Harrison:His goals are longer than just, oh, how am I looking the first two games of the season? He's not tripping. He's been there before. People talk crap about him all the time. So I know he wants to do better. He knows that this isn't good enough. And he's probably the hardest critic on himself, too. He wants to be great. He understands that he has a great team. And continuing to win is the main thing. If they were losing and he was playing bad, it would be a whole different situation. Oh, it's always a whole different situation. But that's what I'm saying. Him still being able to do this with a win and still continue to try to get better.

46:55James Harrison:He knows this isn't top Jalen Hurts. He's not playing at an MVP level right now, and I think he knows that. But continuing to win is a lot easier to work on what you're not doing so well when you're winning games. I think right now, like you said, he's doing what's necessary for them to win. Not hurting them. It may not be helping them all the time, but he's not hurting them. That's a big thing. I mean, I think if you go back and you look at, like, I believe it was like the Ravens when they had, was it Dilfer or something? Who was it, the quarterback that Ravens ended up winning a Super Bowl with?

47:30And the offense was, like, not really that great, but the quarterback, he was just doing what was necessary. He wasn't really helping as much, but he wasn't hurting them and giving the defense, you know, the opportunities to go out there and basically close out a lot of the games. I think this is a little different situation, but kind of the same where, you know, he's not asked to do a lot. You've got the offense right now. They're doing great with the running game. You know, you got a Saquon. He's doing he's he's doing a tremendous job. The offensive line is doing a tremendous job. So, you know, he's not he's not called, like you said, to have to sit back there and go, you know, 30, 40 passes a game.

48:08But, you know, when they get to that situation or if they ever do get to that situation, I should say, where the run is being stopped, you know, defense is playing stout. Do you think he can come in there from what you've seen, you know, just these last few weeks and, you know, win it with his arm?

48:28James Harrison:From this last few weeks, no, but I've seen him do it before. And I believe that. I mean, I've seen him throw. I think him, Devontae, A.J. Brown still hasn't been getting the ball as much. He does have capable receivers. So I think if we do, the run game is doing well. Just opening up, taking the shots, being able to throw some more, giving more opportunities. He's not really even throwing those deep passes, you know what I'm saying, to become incomplete. So I think just opening it up, giving him a chance, giving him a shot down the field, and I think it'll work out. I would believe in Jalen Hurts.

48:58James Harrison:I know he's working his ass off, and he's a solid player. And they got good players around him, and he's just working hard. So I think he has nothing but good is going to happen for Jalen, bro, in my opinion. Yeah, I think, I mean, as long as things keep going well with, you know, like you said, the defense and the special teams, then I think things will work themselves out. So, listen, man, I went to the gym, right? I always go to the gym. You're always in the gym, right? Every day. So I went in there and I'm working out, right? And I'm looking at this dude, and he got like this cup. And I see the cup, and you know what?

49:44I got to go get mine. I'm going to show you. Go ahead. Talk to the people. I'll be back.

49:49James Harrison:See, D-Bug Wildman, he about to go get a cup. But who was I talking about? Devontae Smith, Jalen Hurts, Hooped, Bills. But look, at the end of the day, the MVP of that game, James Cook. Every tote was almost for a first down. With Josh Allen, with James Cook there, it's taking so much pressure. Josh Allen's going to do what Josh Allen's going to do. He's going to scramble. He's going to make passes. He's going to make plays. But with James Cook there, running like looking so sweet, looking like the MVP, 10 carries a tote, that's my MVP of the game. James Cook. And the boy had like seven for 71 at one point, bro.

50:34Bro, every tote was first down.

50:38James Harrison:Every tote. I couldn't find it anyway. Oh, you know, stepped off and didn't come back with nothing. I couldn't even find it. So it's like a mug, a little mug cup. And I see a dude and he got one. And I'm working out. And I saw what it said, right? So I had to tell him. I said, I don't know if you noticed or not, but... One of us being lied to. You know what I'm saying? And he was like, huh? I was like, I got that same cup. And it said the greatest dad ever. So I got to go talk to my kids after they get out of school and see what was going on. Was they lying to me or is that dude the greatest dad ever?

51:16You know what I'm saying? I was trying to figure that out. I was kind of messing with me. That's all.

51:20James Harrison:Yeah, no. See, look. See, there's a whole contemplation going on because I got that same mug. You do too? Oh, I'm trying to figure out. Who gave that to you? Man, my Joey and my Jetsy. My young bulls told me I'm the greatest dad ever. I don't know somebody. Anybody else got something out there like that? Nothing. I thought it was just me. Damn. But I was special. No, no, no. I wasn't. Damn. You're the greatest dad in your household. In my household, that's what it is. In the Harrison house, you that man. Oh, man. For sure. For sure. now listen what we got here is a failure to communicate on that's not it

52:11anyway nothing I was talking to myself I was looking at something see I'd be losing you sometimes yeah it wasn't it wasn't something that I was anyway pop off what's the next thing we got super chats we got super chats i don't see it if we got it i don't see it okay i got super

52:35James Harrison:chat joe go super chat nat said james just want to say your jersey was the first one i ever bought love the show very much love you both let's go let's go good man then we got dr l frankie and L Bellamy said. Keep going, guys. Over 24K subscribers, and it's growing every day. 24? We at 24 now? Yeah, 24K, Debo. It's got to be 25 by now. We done had at least get a G-ball real quick. You got to at least get a quarter. At least get a big. You ain't got no more? Man, I got two right there right now, Debo. Listen. uh-uh no sir but you know what though what was your highlights of the game I already told you who my favorite player was James Cook who was yours

53:41D I'm thinking oh okay

53:52Yeah. I got to. You could probably go the same as me if you need to. No. No, I got to. Well, yeah, I could, but, you know, John Solomon was doing his thing, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, doing the little flip passes and all that other stuff. So I got to give it to him. You know what I'm saying? Even though I didn't want to give it to him. You know, I feel like they kind of stole an MVP from my guy, Lamar, last year. But anyway, I'll give it to him. I'm going to give it to Josh. Oh, Lord. James, you got another one.

54:25James Harrison:What we got? Oh, Lord. See, I don't know if I'm ready for this one. You got it. We got to wait till the end. I can't see it, baby. Chris said, today is apparently National Talk Like a Pirate Day. We want James to do another weird voice at the end of the show.

54:42Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I wasn't prepared for that one, buddy. I'll see what I can come up with, baby.

54:49James Harrison:man I know you got an A you guys I ain't gonna lie to you I didn't know that I didn't know that about you brother that was definitely not on my listen man I'm a trained actor trained a little bit trained but not I'm a trained actor I got my sad card and all that good stuff you know what I'm saying like I do what I do you don't got no sad card you got a sad card? yeah oh that ass okay debo you talk listen man heels you ever seen heels heels h-e-e-l-s heels i believe this on um netflix okay look at season one season one i'm in that i play a character called apocalypse yeah bro i'm a train i was i was i was a serious regular what yeah season season one though.

55:46I wasn't in season two, you know. Did you die off? No, I wouldn't take the shot. Oh, you were doing it was doing COVID? Oh, yeah. I did in Atlanta. Okay. And set lockdown, dude. We had a whole gym with a wrestling ring and, you know, weight equipment and all that because, you know, you couldn't go nowhere. You couldn't do nothing. So we did all our training in there with each other and all that. So. Yeah. you know trying to make you wear make you wear masks and stuff you know all that like Devo I am you a man of many hats bro no question

56:25James Harrison:go check it out though you go watch that show I'm gonna watch heels man hey you watch the show you watch the show you been watching we gonna talk about it next week we talk about it on Monday whatever I'm telling you I'm decent in that thing too you gonna look at that and you gonna be like damn I ain't know Debo had that in him yeah for sure I'm a movie critique for real okay I'm a movie critic okay yeah so I'm gonna need your critique I be critiquing people's stuff okay so I'll let you know if it's good or not man listen man you let me know if it's good I'm gonna tell you right now man even if it's not good I'm gonna tell you it's good listen man I'm telling you it's good no I want the truth I'm messing with you, brother.

57:14I'm going to be honest opinion. Hardcore truth. Nothing but the truth.

57:18James Harrison:Always, Debo. Come on, man. My good man. Yeah, for sure. I mean, where you at? Virginia? I'm in Virginia, brother. Yeah, bro. That's so far away from Pittsburgh. You should feel safe giving me a, you know, honest truth. You know what I'm saying? Nah, Debo. See, that's what I'm saying. I'm not giving you the Addy. I'm just going to tell you I'm in Virginia. I don't know if it's in your beach or Tysons Norfolk you got to search for me buddy after I give you this review I'm gonna come find you man you gonna give me a hug after I give you this review I'm trying to tell you man listen I'm the coldest thing going if they had ever really gave me a shot you know what I'm saying I'd easily be like the next rock just a little better you know you wrestle yeah I did my own stunts I did all my own stunts everything you see on there is me and so heels heels is a wrestling move yeah it's about like faces and heels so like they're using that throw off so it's about a family two brothers that are trying to get their small time wrestling thing big you know and the characters around it and all that so you gotta watch it I don't know I'm gonna watch it for sure, man.

58:39Because I used to get my Ray Mysterio Jr. on back in the day. Yeah, you got Stephen Emile in it. You got Alexander Ludwig. You got Alan Maldonado. Chris Bauer. You have Mary McCormick.

58:56Is it Crystal? You know what? I have trouble remembering. Crystal Bernard, I believe. And it's a few other people in there, dude. But yeah, it's a good show, man. Good cast. Michael Malley is a writer-director. You have what's his name from oh. Oh, why am I throwing a blank on his name right now? Is it a movie

59:33James Harrison:producer or something? Yeah. I'm not the one I know Steven Spielberg it was a superhero type thing what's his name oh man what movie was it Loki Loki or is it yeah I think it's Loki what's his name I can see his face right now why am I throwing a blank anyway that was like 2020 2021 something like that but why am I throwing a blank on his name right now what's your favorite movie of all time, Deebo. Life. Eddie Martin and Martin Lawrence. Great, great, great. Dawg, listen. I still watch that. Oh. And catch little tidbits that I miss. And I done watched it probably like 150 times. You word for word, ball for ball on it now.

1:00:25Gotta be. Pete Siegel. That's his name. Pete Siegel. And Michael Waldron is the other. Yeah, that's who I'm thinking of. Michael Waldron is the Loki and Pete Segal is the director. Waldron is the writer. One of the writers, I believe. Yeah, you can't go wrong with that right there.

1:00:49James Harrison:Oh no, perfect. I'm going to watch that. I'm going to watch that. I'm going to watch that for sure, Deebo. What's your favorite movie? Man, what is my favorite movie? Life is up there, but I think my favorite movie, if I just had to ask, bro, it sounds Green Mile. I just watched that last night. That's why you said Green Mile? I just saw it. No, brother. Hey, man, I didn't know what you watched, Brother Debo. It's hell about you watching Green Mile. You knew I watched it. No way, but I'm telling you. You got cameras. No, man. But Green Mile, though. That's probably my favorite movie, man. I love that movie.

1:01:25James Harrison:You got it. Green. Yeah, I just watched it. I know you said. I know that. It was all right. I didn't. That's a classic. Yeah. I like to laugh, though. I like to laugh. There ain't nothing to laugh about in that, baby. No. No, for sure. I like movies that make you think, too. Like some other movies. You like The Departed was a good movie. Yeah, that was cool. I like The Oceans, too. I'm a big Oceans fan. Oceans? Oh, Oceans. Like Oceans 11? Yeah, okay. That's what I thought. Ocean 12, 13, 75. Mm-hmm. They started getting oceaned out, though. They started, man. God damn. They were the ocean. There was a lot of oceans.

1:02:15James Harrison:Too many oceans. Hey, man. Look here, man. After that one, man. We're going to go ahead and take off, man. Hey, we want to thank y 'all for joining us. Joe, you ain't here. Nothing, man. Hey, man. Thank you for joining us on D-Boy and Joe Show, man. Hit the like button. Subscribe. We'll be back here again on Monday. What's today? Friday? Friday. Yes. We'll be back again on Monday. After a crazy week of football. Crazy week of football. Hey, make sure y 'all go and watch Hills on Netflix season one. Yes. Apocalypse. That's my character. Come in the chat and tell me what y 'all think about Debo's performance on Monday.

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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Thursday Night Football where Tua Tagovailoa fell to ab abysmal 0-3 start to the NFL season after losing to Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. Later, they discuss the ongoing controversy surrounding Tom Brady's role with the Las Vegas Raiders and Fox Sports, and much more heading into Week 3 of the NFL Season!

Timeline:
00:00 - Bills beat Dolphins
13:30 - Dolphins locker room issues
29:00 - Tom Brady controversy 
35:00 - Tush Push penalties
39:50 - Eagles offensive struggles
45:25 - Deebo's gym story

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