Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Drake Maye & Patriots take down Giants + do Steelers have a culture issue?

2 Dec 2025 · 58 min · 18 chapters

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In short

The hosts react to the New England Patriots’ blowout win over the New York Giants, focusing on key plays by Drake Maye, the defense, and special teams, then debate whether the Steelers have a culture issue after a former Steeler’s comments. They also veer into NFL/social-media drama and general banter.

Guest backgrounds

No guests are mentioned. The episode is hosted by James “Deebo” Harrison and Joe Hayden.

Key claims

  • Patriots dominated all phases: offense, defense, and special teams.
  • Drake Maye is “eating,” showing pocket maneuvering, downfield vision, and improved comfort in year two.
  • The defense was disciplined and shut down the Giants’ run game.
  • A former Steeler (Brendan Kuku/Fiocu—unclear spelling) suggested Pittsburgh’s defense struggles due to deeper cultural issues.
  • Culture can be changed quickly with the right coaching/player turnover (example: Mike Vrabel’s rapid culture shift in New England).

Notable examples

  • 94-yard kickoff return touchdown by Jones on the first punt/return sequence.
  • Drake Maye scramble/extra-yard decision leading to a “fired on” moment (in-bounds vs out-of-bounds).
  • A helmet-to-helmet defensive play and a 30-yard touchdown by the next short pass.
  • A missed/odd field goal by Young Ho (described as “chunky monkey”).
  • Steelers culture discussion includes “OGs” passing standards down and rookies needing to be coachable.

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Chapters

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Reaction to Patriots vs. Giants

0:39 to 1:31

Hosts discuss the Patriots' blowout victory over the Giants.

“Tremphaya offers self-injection or intravenous infusion from the start.”

Reaction to Patriots vs. Giants

2:26 to 4:25

Hosts discuss the Patriots' blowout victory over the Giants.

“Your body temperature done went back down?”

Drake Maye's Performance

4:25 to 7:13

Analysis of Drake Maye's performance and his impact on the game.

“They want you to be out there running around looking crazy.”

Game Highlights and Key Moments

7:13 to 14:01

Discussion of key highlights and moments throughout the game.

“Drake may come out there and start doing a little Drake may thing.”

Patriots' Strong Performance Against Giants

14:01 to 18:32

Analysis of the Patriots' game against the Giants, focusing on team dynamics.

“And, dude, the Patriots, Patriots looking good, man.”

Cultural Issues In Steelers' Defense

18:32 to 19:51

Discussion on player Brendan's comments regarding cultural issues within the Steelers' team.

“What do you think he's referring to in that?”

Cultural Issues In Steelers' Defense

20:54 to 21:18

Discussion on player Brendan's comments regarding cultural issues within the Steelers' team.

“Good thing Nissan builds for that kind of chaos.”

Cultural Change in Sports Teams

21:58 to 28:00

Exploration of how team culture evolves and its impacts on performance.

“The only thing that when this happens, Debo, if he going to come out and say some stuff, I need to know.”

The Importance of OGs in Team Culture

28:00 to 29:19

Learn about the role of veteran players in fostering team culture.

“And then when I came deep in front of the DBs with my man, Will Gay, with my good man, I'm like, God damn, I'm having a brand.”

Cultural Shifts in Football Teams

29:20 to 30:48

Discuss how cultural expectations in football have changed over time.

“Like once you start getting rid of your, as we say, OGs, and then you're moving on to your younger guys.”
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Leadership and Accountability in Football

30:49 to 32:09

Explore the significance of leading by example in team settings.

“Like, growing up, any time, you already knew what it was.”

Debates on Player's Significant Others Speaking Out

32:10 to 35:18

Analyze the implications of players' partners publicly discussing team matters.

“They said she posted a TikTok saying my fiance, of course, she got to let people know this.”

Navigating Public Criticism and Defending Players

35:19 to 37:54

Understand the challenges athletes face with public criticism and support.

“But what if your dad didn't play in the league?”

The Consequences of Social Media Statements

37:55 to 39:58

Discuss the potential fallout from statements made on social media.

“In the world that we're in now, with social media, everybody looking for a hidden meeting.”

The Cheeky Act of Egging

43:34 to 47:56

A humorous exploration of 'getting back' at friends through egging houses.

“Don't, you talk, getting people to egg people's houses.”

Navigating Road Rage and Kindness

47:56 to 56:00

Discussing perspectives on road rage and the importance of staying calm.

“So just never know how somebody else's day is going.”

Reflecting on Team Dynamics and Performance

56:00 to 1:04:57

Explore the challenges teams face in maintaining performance year after year.

“People don't realize how hard it is to make it to the dance though, especially when you made the year before.”

Reflecting on Team Dynamics and Performance

1:05:57 to 1:07:11

Explore the challenges teams face in maintaining performance year after year.

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2:15Welcome back to Debo & Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. Hey, Joe, how you doing today, Joe? You feeling good? You done cooled off? Your body temperature done went back down? Man, D-Bo, I ain't going to lie. I still got a little sweat dripping down from my arms and all. Man, I was panicking. I'm not going to lie. It was running a little late. Wi-Fi cut out, stormed right before the show was supposed to start. So I ain't going to lie to you. I was in full-blown panic mode. Yeah, we got it together, though.

2:51We got it together. We here. Yes. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Patriots went all ahead and just beat the brakes. Beat the brakes up off the Giants, man. I ain't going to lie, bro. This was probably one of the most enjoyable blowouts that I got to see. Yes. It didn't really get close. I mean, it was maybe 10 points at one time towards the end of the first quarter or something like that. But New England get the ball, the first possession. As soon as they get the kickoff, bro, it's 40 yards. Yes. Dude strikes out on them, man. Down to the 45-yard line off rip. Yeah. They get down, I think, within the five or something like that.

3:33They stall out. Huh? They kick a field goal. It's 3-0. New York is out there. I think that possession, they only completed one first down. Yep. And then the next first down, dude gets sacked. Like, dude, get down. Like, all these linemen getting upset over this dude. That's when it started. The first one, Debo. He got smacked. It wasn't even that hard. I think it sounded harder than what it was. Because when you see the replay, he barely hit him with part of his chest. Yeah. This is the first one when he kind of slid. Yeah, the first one when he slid. He's already like, but just off the rip. It ain't even a slide, bro.

4:12He was running, and at the last second, he just tried to get down. That ain't even a slide. He just tried to get down. He got to protect himself, man. He's too small. Just be taking unnecessary hits. All the way. But, you know, that's young. You want to compete. You want to go out there and try and do it like you did in college. Nah, these boys hitting like grown men. They out here trying to feed families. They are, man. They want you to be out there running around looking crazy. No question, man. They punt the ball, and the action started immediately. I'm thinking to myself, I ain't even going to lie, bro.

4:43I'm like, why is he catching this inside the tent? He had a lot of space and grass. So that's when I can dig it. If people are around you, let it go into the end zone. Well, I didn't see it until, like I said, I'm thinking it was going to hang longer than what it did. You know, it come down and this dude takes that thing 94 yards to the house. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Immediately is 10 to nothing. He got missing. Got missing real fast. He got missing. He got missing real fast. and now is where the second down comes yeah this is this man dark takes off on the scramble and he gets five boom oh lord and i'm looking at it and i'm like yeah they go throw a flag i i know he in bounds i'm looking at it i'm like i see the foot in bounds before they even did the slow-mo i'm like i see the foot in bounds he didn't turn to like he was trying to go to the side he took them extra steps.

5:45What are you doing? Boom. He deserves... This is why I'm telling you. He deserves every bit of that getting fired. You're a quarterback, and that's the stuff like, at the end of the day, that extra little two yards, it's going to be third and one or third and four. Your longevity, you're a little dude. Linebackers are praying that you take that extra step inbounds so you can get fired on because you're inbounds. This is what we're looking for. They're grown men. They're coming for you. So the protection is if you step out and then we give you a little something running to you, all that, we know, we see you.

6:18But when you have that corner and you have that option, that little two yard, that one second, split second when you're like, no, I'm going to just turn up instead of just going right out of bounds, you deserve to get fired on. You deserve all that. Oh, no question. It was the second and 12. He got 11. He got 11 of it, got fired on. His homeboy, 84, wanted to take up his back. You mad. You trying to protect your man. Your mans got fired on because he did something goofy, bro. Your mans got fired. Now you about to get fined because you wanted to go and fire on somebody that did something totally illegal.

6:52So you go get fined, okay? You go get this fine on, what is it, Wednesday they send them fines out? Yes, sir. You go get fined Wednesday, okay? And then on top of that, the next play, he got fired on. Yeah, he was coming across there, dude fired on him. Yes. And that's the way you handle that. That's how you don't – he gave him a 15-yard penalty. It's about to be third and one, and now you made a second and 13 and get fired on. Yeah, you get fired on. It's over with. So they punt the rock. Drake may come out there and start doing a little Drake may thing. He go three of three. I think it was like 49 yards touchdown.

7:28I think he rushed for one for three yards on a quarterback sneak. They end up – I think they're going up now 17 to nothing. New York comes back out. I think they ended up making a little something out of it. Like the first five plays, they ran like five runs straight. And then on the third down, they ended up getting the personal foul. Oh, to say the drive with the helmet to helmet. Yeah, the helmet to helmet. That was a great defensive play. But how are you? Like, that's, I mean, that's just. That's bang, bang. Like, he's not even trying to hit him. He wasn't trying to at all. He's trying to literally look at the ball and have his eyes on the ball and go through there.

8:06So, I mean, it's bang, bang. that's just like that's unfortunate. You know what I'm saying? Like he's not trying to I mean like you said that's part of the game. That's part of the game. It's safety first. But that's like these end of the day they gotta be that's so much skill to be able to really like slow down. You gotta look where you're going put your hands like try to put your hands in between where the ball's coming to break that up and not I don't even think he could have stopped from touching that home because he had to slow down everything. I know. But I'm saying that's the crazy part.

8:34It's basically no way you can't get flagged for that. Yeah. Next play, Dark, he goes and throws a short one. Dude takes it 30 yards for the touchdown. This is the only touchdown they would get. They wouldn't get no closer. It ends up right there. I think it's 17 to 7 now. Yes, sir. New England gets back out there. They do a little something, but I think Drake gets sacked on like the third down. They had a three and out. And they punted. They punted at 25 yards. Yeah, 25. Yes. I'm thinking, okay, now they got a chance. Mm-hmm. Yo, what was Young Ho doing on that field goal, bro? Chunky monkey. Debo.

9:15What was that? I ain't never seen no kicker do that. I never seen that a day in my life. I thought a dude might have, like, dropped the ball or something. It looked—the only—so, Debo, we're going to talk about the real—he messed that up. I've never seen that before in my life. The ball moved a little bit at the bottom, so I could see if he, like, full stop. Why did you come and hit your toe? That's the definition. I thought he got turf toe. He jammed his foot into the ground looking crazy, like, oh, sprawling his body out. I'm like, I've never seen that before in my life. Dude, I don't know what happened.

9:45Maybe he wasn't in the right position or something to get it off. The left foot was right next to the ball. I don't know, bro. You got to swing that thing, man. That's a sack. They ended up getting a sack. That was crazy. That was crazy. Dude, they get the ball. First play, it's like, I think it's Henderson for like 13. Brody, that's when they finally put our man Henderson in. He wasn't in until this drive, and then he started getting active. Yeah, he got real active right there. And I think they ended up, I think it was a holding. They got a holding call. Yeah, the next play. Wait a second. Second to 21, hit Booty.

10:25Yeah, I think it was 13 for Booty. And then 13-3. Beautiful ball. Great catch. Great throw. Best pass of the game. Best ball of the game. Great. Yeah, all that combined together. 24 to 7. The kickoff. Okay. Same man, Debo. That same man. Sleeping everyone. 5-3, put that. You better have your head on the swivel. Put that quarterback. Put that NyQuil on that returner, bro. Debo, yes. And my wife was looking. You talking about his mouthpiece popped out? No. No. That was paint. He knocked paint off. He knocked the whole New York emblem off that boy helmet. Debo, I hate to. Listen. I hate to laugh because I hope in practice.

11:16He all right, man. He good. You know what I'm saying? But when he got up, he did not know where he was at or where he was going to. Debo, Sarah was like this. My wife was like, is he okay? I said, baby, he's walking. He's the walking sleep man. That's the man that's the sleepwalking. I jumped and hollered. I ain't gonna holler what I said. I ain't gonna jump and holler what I said. But I holler for my son. I said, hey! I think we're looking at a dead body. Deebo tried to holler. Hey, bruh. You know, that's what it is. You are a... That's what I'm saying. And it's not a flag. You know why, Deebo?

11:55You see everybody. You know what's going on. You run into another man that sees you and is ready to fire on you. And he did not bend any part of his knees to get low into that contact. What are they thinking? He lawn chaired that man, Debo. He did not bend his knees, man. How are you a runner and you running into somebody you don't bend your knees? That man Ellis was out there hitting. They need to watch out 53. And he was not doing anything illegal. He was out there. That's a tone setter. That's somebody who you want on your team that's out there doing like, yeah, it's contact. This is a physical game.

12:31They running around here. They see me. Like, I'm right here. I'm not doing nothing. Why? Right there. It's what? What? You need to come here. Boom. Come get some of this. He was smacking folks, bro. New England ended up getting three from that. It's 27 to three now. 27 to seven. 27 to seven. Sorry. 27 to seven. They got three from that. It's 27 to seven. And New York, they get back out there. Like, how don't you go for it? Are you trying to win the game? They ain't trying to win the game. Like that right there. Like you trying to get them to jump off on fourth and one? Come on, man. You down by 20, almost 21?

13:15You down by 21, you trying to get them to jump off? Man, if you don't do that and go. You don't do something. They punt the ball and allow New England to get back down there and score another three before halftime. They were lucky they ran out of time. Yes. Walked that thing down there so quick. Super lucky. Super lucky. Super lucky they had time. It could have been worse. Way worse. 30-7, halftime. And then, you know, New York, they come back out there and they're able to put together some stuff, you know, here and there. They scored a touchdown. 15-30. I mean, really nothing really happens after that.

13:57New England puts in another field goal later on through game. It's 33-15. And, dude, the Patriots, Patriots looking good, man. Like, they went out there in all three phases, brother. Yes. Special team, offense, defense. Jones took 194 punt return, 194 to the house on the very first punt. And then late in the second quarter, hey, that forced fumble on that kickoff, night-night. Man, I mean, covered it. Dude, the defense, they shut down the Giants just altogether. I think they only had like 110 yards rushing. Dart was 139. I was hoping he was going to get some more garbage time, but he didn't. I know, man.

14:47That last drive, we only got 30 yards out of it. I'm like, God, I'm trying to need a little bit more. Right, right. He need a little bit more. I was counting down. I'm like, this is exactly what we talked about. The plan is working out perfectly. He got 30, man. I'm like, come on, man. It was a chance. Yeah, for sure, for sure. And then, you know, Drake May is eating, dude. He playing good, dude. He's playing extremely well. Just his ability, man, to maneuver in the pocket and still keep his eyes downfield, dude, and actually throw the ball, you know, without being distracted when he's about to be hit.

15:23or about to be sacked, all that, and now, you know, able to use his legs a little bit here. And this is year two. Yes. Yes. Year two. Year two. He's looking way ahead of his years, bro. 1 ,000%. He's looking comfortable. He's being able – and at the same time, he don't have – it's not like, I love Stephon Diggs. You know what I'm saying? I love Collins and those guys. But, like, he doesn't have, like, a really, really great number one receiver that he could just go over there like, I'm going to throw it up over here. Ain't going to lie, man. He got some good ones, though. He got some good ones.

15:53It's a, it's a, I think, I think it's on committee and just everybody, nobody's just a standout. Everybody's doing their job. You know what I'm saying? Like where they got to be catching the ball. They're not dropping it, running any routes. Precise. It's more of just everybody's doing their thing. Nobody, you don't got to do, you don't have to have a standout person when everybody's doing their thing. Everybody's balling. Everybody's handling their job. So it's making it easier on him when I don't have to go to somebody every time I'm going to do the open man. When Deacon's needs me to go here, that's where I'm going to go.

16:21He's going to catch it and we're going to move on. Yeah, he's going where the defense dictates he has to go. Yes, yes, yes. And when he can't, you know, sometimes he got to take off. Sometimes he end up eating the sack, whatever that may be. And I know, you know, there's people out there talking about, you know, their schedule is weak and all this. Yeah, they benefit from that schedule somewhat. You know what I'm saying? But this dude has been sacked 40 times, bro. And he's still doing this. There's only two other quarterbacks, I think, that have been sacked more than him. Oh. And he's still standing in the pocket throwing that thing, dude.

16:59Yeah. His percentage, his completion rate, man. He's not going to make decisions, bro. And he's still doing that. Throwing the rock down the field. It's not just check downs. Not just check downs. Not just check downs. That means he's seeing it. He's making decisions fast because somebody getting hit that much and sacked that much. Somebody getting sacked that much is getting hit probably more. Mm-hmm. You know? Defense, too. And they defense, like Gonzalez, the guys, there's nobody really running at Scott Free. You know what I'm saying? They're just very, very disciplined. And when you are disciplined defense, a lot of good things are going to happen.

17:34Tip balls. People are going to be in the right places. You know what I'm saying? Don't just give it to them. Yeah. Nothing should be given. Nothing given. I mean, you know, some people feel like it may be – it should be given, but nothing is given. You got to earn and take, especially if you're getting it from another team. You got to earn and take anything it is that you want to actually get and have somebody respect you for it. Yeah. I think Drake Mays balling though too. He definitely, his MVP case is getting better and better. Yeah. So I guess we had a former Steeler. How do you pronounce that last name?

18:13Brendan what? Kuku? Kuku. Fiocu? Fiocu? Fiocu? Bro, I'm the worst. Yeah, dude, I'm really worse than you. So I guess he spoke out against how the defense was struggling, I guess. And he said, this ish is deeper. This shit is deeper than you know. What do you think he's referring to in that? He was going back and forth with, I guess, Trey. Do you have any of it? You got deeper context? Let me get your perspective on it first because I don't really know what Buddy was talking about. I think he may just be speaking on more of a cultural difference. I think he spent a little time with the Chargers.

19:05Okay. Anthony Lynn, I think it was, for a hot minute. Okay. Maybe from what he's seeing when he was in college to what he's seeing there. And now, you know, when he got to Pittsburgh, maybe he's seeing, you know, he's seeing something different than the culture that he's used to seeing. That's the only thing that I could, you know, that I could really think of in the situation. Do you know when he played for the Steelers or when he was there? It was like practice squad on or off. It was 20, was it 22, 23, something like that. Okay. 22, 23, something like that. So, and, you know, he's talking about, well, I'm not going to say anything.

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22:05Say what you're going to say. You know what I'm saying? Well, you said he still got people there. You know how they go, man. I know. I know. I know how they go. But it puts us in the position to be like the ones that got to just guess what he's thinking. You know what I'm saying? So I kind of want to do the same thing. We don't want to speak on things that we— I mean, yeah, he was only there in 23. Like I said, that's the only thing I can think of. Because a culture is something that is usually hard to change because it just happens over time. You know, you get you get one one person, you get two people, three people at a time.

22:41And now you got the old players that were there and now they're they're leaving. And and rather that is a good culture or bad culture that's being, you know, built there. You got some young players that are now looking at these new guys coming in and the young players that are rookies. They're seeing this and they like, oh, this this behavior right here is acceptable. Yeah. And then before you know it, you look 10 years down the road and it's the whole group. You are not lying. Right. And, you know, culture is culture. Culture is as much as the law, as much as the coaches and all that, then the players in the locker room that create culture.

23:20Like that's that's that's part of the culture. No, no, for sure. As players, you know, you got you. You got your older guys that built this type of culture. You got the younger guys that's coming in with something else. And as the transition happens, you got the younger guys coming in, seeing the guys that's there. And they're like, oh, this is what we do. And then the old guys are being phased out. So now, like I said, you turn around 10 years later. Oh, it's completely different. The culture that you once saw is gone. For sure. And that's something that slowly happens over time, you know. And it just takes time.

23:52So, you know, I don't. You know what? I take that back. it can be done in New England. New England, it can be done. Mike Vrabel went in there and immediately changed the culture. Yes, he did. And you know how he did that? He started with his coaches and then did it with his players. As soon as he took that job, what was the first thing he did? He went and got him an OC and a DC that fit the culture that he wanted to create. Uh-huh. Okay. Now, what did he do then? He said, okay, it's players. Dude, he signed and released so many players. Uh-huh. That, dude, it was ridiculous in that first, like, five, six months that he got there at the beginning of, I believe it was jail, January, just this year.

24:51Oh. January, just this year, dude. he hired Josh McDaniel for the OC, Terrell Williams for the DC, and he actually kept the offensive coordinator because they was doing well. Makes sense. It's good to do. Blah, blah, blah. Then he went and got a couple other coaches for, you know, positional things. The players, he released, he signed, he did all that. Immediately, he done changed the culture. Okay? and this right here is like a pure example dude like he played under belichick okay now he never coached under belichick but he played under him so long he knows he sees he understands how it works you see what i'm saying and from there he built his his own his own thing and and took it from there hell and you know what he even played i think he played his first four years was under Bill Cowher.

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25:51So he done had 12 years. Yeah, seeing how he's done. And then you look, you know, you look at him being under, well, playing under Belichick. Belichick got what? He had 10, 12 head coaches that went on from his tenure. I was under one of them. Eric Margini. He came from Parcells as a DC with the Giants. Like, that's a great coach, dude. That's a great coach. And that gets passed down. And you get used to seeing, okay, this is what the culture should be like. Because this is what's successful. It's no longer about, okay, I need to get the best player. No. You don't need to get the best player. You need to get a player that can play, of course, but the personality.

26:47Yeah. the things that are going to help build and, you know, raise your locker room is what you need. Like all the intangibles that you can't, you know, you have, you get a guy in there and like you said, one dude can take and turn the next year into eight dudes. And those eight dudes can turn the next year into 16 dudes. And those can, before you know it, the whole culture is gone. and what it was that was there before, whether it was good or bad, is gone, and now it's whatever the new coach has or wanted to build, and that's what you have then. No, for sure, because, I mean, it's the same. Like, when I came to the Steelers, Debo, I knew it with the Pouncey twins, you know what I'm saying, the line, Roman, Ramon, you know what I'm saying, the O-line, they had culture.

27:43They had things that they did. They hung around. They kicked it. I saw that, and I loved it. And everybody knew. Hey, where do you think that came from, bro? Where the goons? Where do you think that came from? That got passed down from the previous. I got that from Peasy. I got that from all of them. See? It was passed down. It's just. That's how you do it. That's what I'm saying. And then when I came deep in front of the DBs with my man, Will Gay, with my good man, I'm like, God damn, I'm having a brand. Even Rob G. Yes. Just the people that were doing. He was under that. He was under that. everybody we knew we had things that we did that little db little lunch when we had our little meeting that we did it we ordered like eddie v's we did a steak and that's when when they ended up leaving i kept that going and then when minka came in we always did it and people respected the us because they're like no this is the culture this is what and i just started doing it because that's what they did and this is what it was so i'm like okay boom so it's just like if you don't have ogs that really come in and right teach them and not teach them in a bad way and the other thing is sometimes rooks are not trying to learn.

28:47They're not trying to hear that. It's a little different. Right. With these new age dudes. If that guy's not trying to hear. That's when you got to draft. You got to draft them right to you got dudes that's listening, that's not coming in there thinking they know everything. You know what I'm saying? No question. Like humble, ready to listen, ready to grind. But OGs, there's no disrespect. This is just, they teach it. They're not being, you know what I'm saying, rude, whatever. So I think it's an OG thing. It's a players that are really good with everybody else and just culture learning and just the way it is and we respect.

29:19Yes. Yes, dude. Like once you start getting rid of your, as we say, OGs, and then you're moving on to your younger guys. If your younger guys aren't characters that are going to build the culture that you want, then you're going to have to figure out how to adjust that to get them adjust to it or you let them adjust your culture. And you know what, man? And when you look at it right now, I feel like that's what we had. We done had a cultural thing that has just changed to the point that it's not really one. You know what I'm saying? Even if you go back to when Minka was here, dude, Mika has spoke on it.

30:12I believe it was like our last home game last year around this time in December. And he was saying, um, something along the lines of like, you know, guys come in and think, you know, it's just going to be given to them and you put the form on. He was saying the same stuff we were talking about. Yeah. And I think, I think that's the culture. Now everything is just handed to you. It's given to you. you're automatically made you're here you know whatever that may be and that's that's not what it is just cause you put on that uniform you get nah don't nobody man don't nobody fear coming to Heinz Field no more I mean coming to Pittsburgh yeah don't nobody feel coming to Pittsburgh no more man back in the G that was hey coaches would tell they tell their team hey you need two chin straps that's legit though Legit.

31:08You need two chin straps. Legit. Like, growing up, any time, you already knew what it was. You was going to get, you was going to come out there and you was going to get smacked. Somebody's head was going to get hit all, like, y 'all was out there laying, just smacking people, just the way football was supposed to be played. It was going to tote the rock, hard running, hard hitting. You wasn't just going to walk out of there. You know what I'm saying? You wasn't going to tote the ball. The easiest way to lead is by example, bro. I ain't even got to say no. Just see what I do and follow me. Watch me.

31:37because I'm not a big talker. That wasn't what I did either, Debo. Just watch this. You can talk all you want to, man. No, you got to show me. If you're not doing it, it don't matter. You got to show me. You can't have nobody not doing nothing, be a leader and talking too much. Why? What are you? Shut up. Do something. Or the guy that talks so much, but he ain't putting none of that work in. I'm like, eh. No, no, no. You can't. Listen, bro. You can't be coming over here talking goofy and correcting me on stuff that y 'all know you can't do. You know what I'm saying? I don't understand that right there.

32:14Let's go over here to Cleveland, man. Dylan, Gabriel's fiance. They said she posted a TikTok saying my fiance, of course, she got to let people know this. My fiance, Dylan, is not playing. I have thoughts on that, but I'm not going to share it. Then, another one. Brown's loss with Snoop. Yo, bro, how you feel about this? I'm dead, like... And then she got into a little disagreement, like, with one of the comments, I guess. Actually, everyone in the building wants him to blame. But, hey, why is she talking about You wouldn't know that because you've never been in the NFL or been a coach, right?

33:14See, that's what I'm not. That's, look, that's his old lady. Look at that. You can't even say. You can't even say. That's about to be Dylan Gabriel's wife. She has every right to defend her man and do whatever she got to do and say what she got to say to her man. Bullets start flying. She's got to be ready for him. I know for sure, but I'm just going to not speak on that because that's his old lady and she has every right to defend her man. That's his wife. I'll speak on it. I'm not going to do it. As a man that is doing a job that she has not done, has not coached, has not played in, you now think you have played in the NFL because your fiance plays in the NFL.

34:01Now you know more because you are going to marry an NFL player. Nope. Nope. And then on top of that, you're putting him in crosshairs. Yeah, I could. You're putting him in the crosshairs because who else is he talking to while he's laying in the bed? No, actually, everyone in the building wants him to play. So who told you that? Were you in the building? Were you talking to other players? were you talking to the coaches i doubt it 110 percent doubt you was in it in talking to any coaches in in the offices or to the up front so that must be something he's telling you so now you got him having to go back and answer to or have people looking at him a certain way now because you done said to her oh yeah everybody want me to play they just hate me You know what I'm saying?

34:55They want to get him a chance. You know what I'm saying? This is equivalent, Debo. Do you think this is equivalent to somebody's, like when we talked about previously, people's fathers going out there and saying things about their sons? If my father - I'm just, you know. If my father is a ex-Hall of Famer, he can say whatever he want to say. Because nine times out of ten, I don't put him up to it. But what if your dad didn't play in the league? Okay. But what if he didn't play in the league? Did he play football? Yeah, he played football. Did she play football? The analyst, Stephen A. Smith. Did she play football?

35:31Stephen A. Smith didn't play football. What did she analyze? I mean, she didn't analyze nothing. Tell me where she was an analyst at. She coached the Powerpuff League? No, Debo. She ain't coached nothing. Okay. So what makes her qualified? Because her fiance is Dylan? No, no, no, no, no, no. What makes any, if a dad didn't play in the league and his son, And so if his dad didn't play, he played Little League football. That makes him qualified to be able to speak on it more than if somebody didn't play football at all? Like Little League? When you paraphrase my fiancé to give yourself credit, I have a problem with that.

36:09Okay. I'm not going out here and saying my defensive coordinator, Dick LeBeau. No, I'm coming as James Harrison. You had to paraphrase that. So it gave you credibility? movie? I mean, no, I understand what you're saying, but I don't, I mean... I just don't like this, bro. I don't like it at all. That would be like... It is messy. And flipping it around and it being the other way.

36:43Like, you think people ain't looking at him crazy right now? A thousand percent. Like, right there, where he goes to work, Every day. You think they ain't looking at him crazy right now? You think the other wives or fiancés ain't looking at her crazy now? Because they listening to their husbands or fiancés? What are they talking about? Yes. She don't need to say that. Yes. Put yourself in a position you don't want to be in. You can't win. I understand. You want to defend your man. Do it in private. Do it in private. Because that's not going to help him at all either. With that part, he got an answer to this.

37:21Who is he getting this from? He's not talking to the other coaches or nobody else, the players. So he's going to have to answer this because his fiance, of who he's talking to, is saying that in the locker room, everybody wants me to play. How do you get this information? She's talking to you or she's not talking to Stefanski. I'm with you 1 ,000 % that this whole thing is not good for her to do it. But I can see I'm just, yes, just don't say anything. It hurts your husband. I can know why she's defending him, for sure. But don't say anything because it going to put him in a messed up position.

37:55In the world that we're in now, with social media, everybody looking for a hidden meeting. Don't do it. You're trying to go everywhere with this, dude. Yes, yes, yes. And, dude, it's... Now? I'm with you. Now? But, yeah. Stop, bro. Like, you talking about causing... You already got issues. Yeah. Now you going to add this on top of it. Yeah. What? What? No, I'm with you on that, Debo. I'm with you on that. For sure.

38:30Come on. Joe, I think... It's messy. She just makes it more messy. Because it's like, you already got a lot going on. Nobody else didn't need that. But I just, you know, this old lady like, yeah, you're right. You just don't need it. It's extra. It's more drama. Super messy. You can't get no more messier than that. That's straight up pillow talking. At night. You're at night. Like, what's going on? Hey, you coming home. Oh, you haven't had a tough day. You know everybody want me to start, but they hating. Why they hating? Tell me why they hating. What's the reason they hating? He ain't going to say I'm playing like trash.

39:10Why they hating? Would that lead people to think, Joe? You already know. I know. especially as as much tension as we got around that issue come on Joe you know what they saying not good yeah just yeah just go and do like what the Eagles fans did man and go egg the offensive coordinator Debo they called it vandalism yeah She's vandalism. They hope they get locked up, man. That's crazy. Locked up for egging the house, bro? Come on, man. Let me tell you something, boy. Get some restitution or something, man. Maybe some community service. Do you want people to come and egg your house? I ain't going to lie.

40:00I'm coming back. I don't bother nobody. I don't bother nobody. If you come over to my house and come egg my shit, I want you locked. Why the fuck are you egging my house? Bro, we used to egg. You ain't from my house. We used to egg each other for fun. No, man. Hell no. I'm no, man. I got down. I must be the police. I'm trying to mind my business. Are you trying to go X by crib? You muted. You muted, Debo. You muted. I can't hear you. I said it might have been some people that was my age that actually went and egged this house up. because that's something that people my age do, man. Yeah. It can cause a lot of harm if you don't get it off in time.

40:46Yeah. You know, if I egg your... Listen, I'm trying to cause you damage. If I egg your house when it's real cold or it's real hot, I egg your car when it's real hot. That's what I'm saying. Trying to cause damage. That's real damage. That's what I'm saying, Debo. You ain't never TPed nobody's house, Joe. That's way better. TPed, don't get fined. That's funny. Eggs. But you know how hard you got to throw that thing to get over top of this? He probably got a house with a high roof. I throw this egg. I'm going to get what I need and feel good. If you get that egg, you're trying to really harm my house because I might just mess it.

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43:43Listen. Right now you are. Listen, I'm just trying to tell you, bro. If you and me got a little bit of beef. You're egging my crib. Bruh. I ain't gonna lie to you. Demo. Hey. Okay. I ain't, I ain't, like, if we got, like, beef, like, like, me and you, we had a situation going, whatever. and then like I'm just mad at you we fell out and I want to piss you off I'm going to egg your house and if you catch me I just have to have it power washed you know what I'm saying but I'm going to egg it Joe I ain't going to lie and I'm going to sit there and you going to call me like man you know somebody's going to egg my motherfucking house man instead of I'm going to be like what I'm going to know it's you if my house gets egg now listen here man too nice Joe Yeah.

44:28I'm a nice guy, D-Bo. I'm always worried about you. Now I know you ain't got my egging me. Now you got me looking at you even more crazy. Listen, I ain't going to do it too bad. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to make sure it's down on the first floor. I ain't going to pop you all the way up on the second. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to just hit the window. That way you can, when you hit the egg with the window, you ain't got to worry about too much damage. You know what they said? It be your own man's. You ever heard them say that before? Hey, be your own blood. Be your own kind. Be your own man's.

44:59That's what I'm saying. Got to be more careful. Did the Eagles fans get caught? I don't know. I hope in that big old house, I hope in that big old house, he has cameras. Yep. I hope he catches it. Listen, you think they about to follow everybody's camera, go knock door to door for an A game? No. No, they're not going to take it seriously. They're not going to take it seriously, man. I know. I'm being extra, Why you so serious then? Because I'm not trying to push people's houses getting egged. Because I'm old now, man. I'm trying to just live a peaceful, retired life, stay out the way. I don't bother nobody.

45:36I don't want nobody to just run up on my house egging me. I understand. Listen, Joe, I understand what you're saying. I'm just trying to figure out, Debo. Listen, every now and then, you might have to get some get back. An egg is really, for me, if I egg your house, man, or if I egg your car. Debo, you're almost 50 years old. I'm going to do it while you're in it, Joe. I'm going to hit your car while you're rolling past because you done flipped me the bird. Okay? See, that's what I'm saying. I would never flip you the bird. I'm not flipping you the bird. You know? Ain't nothing wrong with it. Debo.

46:13Oh, my God. I'm just saying, Joe. Yes, I know what you're saying. You're going to throw eggs at people that flip bird? No. Hey, listen. I ain't going to lie. I can't. I can't. I said you, not people, bro. Okay. I had somebody. I can't even say who it is, but it's somebody I know. Somebody flipping the bird on the highway. This is wrong. This is reckless. I ain't going to even lie to you. This is why I don't get fingers. This is why I don't get fingers on the highway. No. If they flipping the bird on the highway, you know what he'd do? He'd drive in front of them. Open the sunroof. and toss out pennies.

46:56Toss out a handful of pennies. Oh, my. You're doing 70 miles an hour coming down the highway. Damage. Who's doing this, D-Bow? I know somebody that do it. I can't tell you who it is. You know somebody that do a lot of things. You know a lot of people. Hey, listen, bro. I'm from Africa now. That's crazy. Hey, that's AK Rowdy Rowdy. West side of Summit County. Listen. Yeah, yeah. I'm just trying to tell you. You better not flick all Westside Raleigh. Throw the pitties at your will. Hey, listen. He say don't let you be in nothing that's clean. He might be willing to lose a little bit of money and throw quotas out there then.

47:41See, Debo, that's what I'm saying. Hey, this ain't me. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's why I'm telling you that we need to bring in more chiller energy into the world because there's people like Wild Man Kenny that's throwing nickels and quarters at you if you flick somebody off. So just never know how somebody else's day is going. Always, you know what I'm saying? Dang, he's in a rush. He's having a bad day. Right. Sure. One too old. No, I don't even care no more. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm trying to tell. That's what I'm trying to give you. I try to make sure that, you know, I'm early when I need to go somewhere.

48:13Yes. So I don't get behind that person that's driving five miles under the speed limit and it makes you want to lose your mind. I'm like, yeah. You know what? You know what? You know what? It's a Sunday drive, you know? You know what, Debo? Maybe get into the - I treat every day like a Sunday. Sunday. Relax. You know? Relax. If you got two lanes, maybe get to the left lane, go see, make sure it's an old lady. Hey, are you okay? Hopefully get there safely. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Get there. Yeah. You know? I'm just trying to bring good shit. I ain't going to really stop and help too many people.

48:47No. unless I'm not stopping with nobody. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard to do. That's a fact. No, no, no, no, no. It's hard to do now. That might be a setup. They might be waiting for us. That could be a scam. Back in the day when my dad, when I was with my dad, my dad was, he would deliver stuff. He was a, dude, we picked up hitchhikers. I swear. Oh, that's a suicide mission. Dude, my dad would pick up. Now, now. If I see somebody standing over there like this, I'm like this. That's how you got around, bro. Yeah, that's how you got around. Now we have Metro or somehow. No, dude. I would be in a car.

49:33And I was, you know, I'm anywhere from like 12 to like 14, 15 at the time. You're in the backseat next to bro. No, man. It'd be a work van, dude. So I would like just, you know, scoot over. and and i got i got oh oh i don't know who this is and that was like like okay somebody need a ride you give them a ride oh bro dude like my dad your dad your dad he was in the country so hey your dad's in the country he ain't scared of nothing Like, no, hey, listen, I ain't going to lie. So as I got older, like. You did it for a little bit? I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, I'm like, yo. Like, man, serial killers and all that, you know what I'm saying?

50:25I'm like, man. I think they're the hitchhikers. Hey, listen, man. All the movies say. Listen, dude, I'm trying to tell you. And I'm like, this man was out here helping people get, like, actually picking up his dude. I'm talking about dudes that I would have pulled off from now. I'm like, I'm not giving him no. Like, this nigga, bro, this nigga had no fear. No fear. I hate to be like that with that because I'm a really nice person. Like, I don't want nothing, no harm, but I think sometimes, like, I have to have fear for my own life and my own family. You know what I'm saying? Like, they could be to have bad intentions.

51:03When my dad was my age, dude, that man had no fear level. Zero. I don't know how. I don't know. I'll tell you one thing you scared the death of, though. This is going to sound crazy. Mice. A mouse? Oh, my God. A mouse could cost that man a million. Pull a gun on you, bro. I had hamsters, right, when I was younger. And my hamsters would get loose. Oh, my God. and my dog, listen, bro. And my dog, Brick, he could smell him and he would find him. So I'd go and I'd be like, dad, the hamster got loose. I'd be like, I think he in there. Man. You don't get that motherfucker up out of here right now. Yes.

51:58Yes, it'd be like that. Like little things, yes, I can respect that. Anything that was like a mouse, dude. But you let a mouse come up? Man, listen. My mom, bro, we had a mouse in our house when I was a kid. And my mom moved out for a week until we had to get it. She was dead serious. She went to a hotel, and then we had to move cribs. My mom was so scared of mice. Dude, yeah, that's out of control, man. Look here, CeeDee Lamb, he compared facing the Lions DBs to a boxing match. he say hey he say it's grown man game grown man game physical game physical game he's saying them boys out there putting hands on people yeah they're trying to make sure the refs check so you make sure any more any legal contacts need that need that no question he's throwing it out there letting them know hey these boys be holding refs just throwing I told you it's a boxing match these boys out here swinging they doing everything hey he like it though he said he like it That's what he's looking for.

53:01He need that. He want all that. I love that. I know who else like that. I know GP like that. He wants all that smoke. No question, man. And DBs over there do. They do do a lot, man. They do. They might want to slow that down a little bit because they're getting all them crosses and everything going. What's going on over there, man? At what point is my dude going to realize you can't just be going for fourth down every. Every. Every. You getting too late in the season, man. You putting your team and you putting your defense. You can't just be going for it on fourth. You can't make it up now. You ain't got that time to make it up.

53:38Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hey. Sometimes you got to play the field position game. You can't just be loud. They're living on the air every time. Or kick the field goal, dude. Yes. Points. Points. Points. Points. Points. Points. It's too late into the season. All the points matter. It's so much harder to get them. Yes. It's harder to get them. People are more stingy. they Q &A and we spending a little extra time to make sure, you know, that I had all this time to look at what you've been doing from the beginning of the season to now. They got cues, oh, yeah, this is this at 80%. This is this at 75%, you know, all that.

54:18So they Q &A on stuff. Right. It gets a lot harder, man. It does. But this is the whole time. This is why I love this part of the season, though, Debo, because now everything matters. Like, the end of the season, everybody has to play as a divisional game. So these six weeks, the playoff picture can look so much different. If you get hot and go 4-0, you know what I'm saying, right now, the whole situation can be so much better. Like, nobody's mathematically eliminated. Nobody's clinched in certain spots. Nobody's got the home field advantage. Dude, we so dusty over here in the AFC. In the AFC, we still looking crazy.

54:53Like, somebody got to win it. Somebody got to win it. and they still looking at Cincinnati like way back. Bro, Cincinnati, man. But what I'm saying is you never know. Let them go 4-0 right now, and we keep losing, and nothing happens with the Ravens. Dude, what is their record? They like 4-8, I think. Dude, they ain't even out of it. That's what I'm trying to say, Debo. Let them go ahead and go crazy for a couple weeks in a row and mess around and play the last week and get in the playoffs. I'm not going to get myself up here and get hoed again. I'm not, because now I'm feeling hopeful again, because I feel like, oh, three and eight.

55:29We ain't got to play them again, even though they got Joe back. Only thing I'm thinking is, but look, Joe, but look at you, bro. When we get in there and we going to play versus them boys, we going to have to, like, the games, like you said, once you get into the dads, all you got to do is go three, four, and oh, and you win the Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying? Get high. Go 1-0 this week. Go 1-0 this week. Win four straight games. Go 4-0. Nobody knows about nothing. We start off 0-0. You know what I'm saying? So that's why everybody kind of can believe, but you go only one the last six times we've been in the joint.

55:59So you get hype, you quick run, but oh man, it's still tight. Yeah, you got to make it to that fight. You got to make it to the dance. People don't realize how hard it is to make it to the dance though, especially when you made the year before. A lot of people come back and think, oh, it's just going to be given to you. You're just going to make it because you made it last year. Nope. Nope. Every year, you got to get in there and you got to earn it. And especially if you had a good year, now everybody's shooting. You're getting that best shot. Getting their best shot. They're ready for you. 100%, bruh.

56:37When you look at, like, the example that I use is like when I went to Cincinnati in 13, like, wasn't nobody really counting on Cincinnati to do nothing. Like, we ended up taking the North. The defense was like ranked third. Like, it was crazy. And I think that was the same year that the Steelers, I don't even think they even made the playoffs that year. I think that was the yes. That was the year they lost like four or five in a row at the beginning of the year. And that was, dude, that was the start of basically a switch, a shift. You know what I'm saying? Okay. When you think that when things start.

57:18Oh, yeah, definitely. I think maybe it started in 12, to be honest with you. but I know in 13 on defensive side it was guys playing that shouldn't have been playing because they weren't ready to play but they were they were put in the position and some of them I talked to one cat when I got back in 14 he was like yo they just put me out there I wasn't ready I didn't know what I was doing dude had 19 ME's in one game bro you know that's ridiculous you know like I think it was two or three rookies at that time that ended up starting on that defense. Coach LeBow's defense don't start rookies, bro.

57:58That's not what it is. But he's just a D coordinator. So you got to do what Superiors have you do. And that's what it came down to. And now, you know, it went from 13. Like when I left in 12, that was the number one defense. 13, it ended up being, I think it went down to 13. And then Cincy ended up being number three. And then in I want to say when I came back it was 18. When I came back in 14, it was an 18 defense, 21. And then it started going back up from there where you had a span of like four or five years that was, you know, like a 5, 6, 5, 3. When I came, that's when I was there. We were two blue.

58:47Yep. So, you know, the changes, you know, of what it is that you're building or not building and, you know, what came from it. Joe. Yes, sir. Who is your defensive player of the week? Who you got? What team? Just tell me what team. Buffalo Bills. Okay, who? Christian Bamford, the corner. But he had the sideline pick and then had the scoop and score for the touchdown. I like it. He balled out. He did it right in front of my eyes. I just don't like the opponent he did it against. So I'm going with Micah Parsons. That was the other one. That's a good pick. Yes, I got to go with Micah Parsons. Respectfully.

59:40He balled out. We had like a two. Eight tackles. Two and a half sacks. Yeah. He bought a pressure. They sat when he had pressures and he made sacks on big time. He finished the game out with the joint. No question. Man. Who the Browns got this week, Joe? Got to be more careful.

1:00:06That's crazy. I don't know. Come on, man. If y 'all don't win this one, man, you already know what game this is, bro. This is going to be the game Myles Garrett break the record. There's only two other quarterbacks that got more sacks than... Oh, man. The Titans. Oh, we about to go crazy on war, man. That's so sad. Where he at? 18? Man, he at 18. No, is he at 19? He at 19? I think he at 19. He at 19. Yeah, yeah. He at 19? Oh, my. Yeah. Man, listen. He going to get 25. He going to end this week. He going for 25. You see he putting them on it. He wears it on his little wristband. He got the tape on there with the 25 on it.

1:00:53He's shooting for it. I ain't picking him for defensive player of the week unless he get 25. I don't care if he get five. If he don't get six, I ain't picking him for defensive player of the week next week Because you should have went on and got 20. You want him to go get the record just right now? It's the Titans, bro. Come on, bro. At the crib? Look, that's how you know that man's so nice. You just force it like, man, you ain't going to go get five sacks? It's at the crib. That's crazy. Five sacks? They done gave up, what, 46, 48? Yeah. You can't get a six-piece miles. Come on, man. Get you a six-pack.

1:01:35You're talking about crazy. The defense probably going to get six. Miles probably get three of them. Nah, nah. Miles, listen, man. Go ahead and get you a six-piece. And after you get it, just walk out and just sit out. I don't care if it's the third quarter. Just sit out the rest of the game. And then do your wrist like this. Six times. Just the whole time for the rest of the game. Just do it like that. Come on, man. Let's go get a dub. Let's go ahead and Shador is going to beat the number one overall pick. And then talk about the Titans. Go ahead and be walled. We got to go over here to Baltimore.

1:02:11I ain't going to lie. I'm hopeful a little now because the Ravens been playing trash. Yeah. My good man, Lamar, I hope he's okay. You know what I'm saying? But the Ravens did put out forest fires. I mean, raising forest fires last week. Defense, they last couple of weeks, they've been balling. I don't need that defense to be playing like that against us. That's what I'm saying. And our offense hasn't been looking too good against bad defenses. So we got the hope. We got the hope. Who's going to be starting quarterback for us this week? Do it matter? Do it matter? That's a good question. Our offense is game.

1:02:58It's dope. Do it matter? Nope. What's going to happen? What's going to change? What's going to change? What's going to change? Dude, we still got, we don't pass and everything. Quick. Yeah. We can't. What? You're right. I'm trying to think of what we got to do. I'm trying to think. We still like, we got DK and he hasn't been. DK ain't going to be able to get nothing because it's only DK. I'm going to double DK. DK ain't going to be able to piss the drop if I'm another team. I don't care about nothing else. I'm going to double him. You're going to have to prove to me you can beat me with everybody else.

1:03:39Yeah. Well, then keep throwing it to Washington. Jalen, Gainwell, Lyon just got to make some holes. Okay. You know what? This is what we're going to do. What are we going to do, D? We'll talk about this on Friday. We'll talk about this on Friday. Yeah, date. Right now, this is what we want to do. We want to thank you guys for coming on and joining us, even though Joe was running around sweating, nervous. Nervous as a hooker in church. I'm telling you, man. Hey, Joe, listen, bro. Real time. In real time, I was stressed out. I'm trying to tell you, man. You my guy, bro. Thank you, brother. Hey, I kill everything over you, even a rock.

1:04:30But if you ever cross me, I kill you with a rock. Yeah. I hear you. Something's wrong with you, bro. No. Seriously. Love you, Deebo. All right, boy. I love you too. And we out.

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