Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Eagles SURVIVING vs. Cowboys + Jalen Carter SPITTING on Dak Prescott

5 Sep 2025 · 1 h 4 min · 28 chapters

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In short

Reaction to the Eagles surviving the Cowboys (24-20) plus debate over Jalen Carter spitting on Dak Prescott before kickoff, and broader NFL talk (Micah Parsons impact, A.J. Brown usage, Stefan Diggs media silence, NFLPA/18-game schedule comments, and jersey-number buy stories).

Guests/backgrounds

The episode features sports journalist Ari Chambers and co-host Sam Jay, plus “Deebo” (a former NFL player/football personality speaking as Debo). They discuss the game from a player’s perspective and argue about discipline, quarterback ranking, and league politics.

Key claims

  1. Spitting is the ultimate disrespect; Carter should be suspended (debated length: “at least two” up to “six” games).
  2. Cowboys’ lack of reaction is implausible; referees saw it, so linemen must have.
  3. Eagles won despite messy offense; Jalen Hurts’ scrambles and third-down conversions were decisive.
  4. Dallas missed Micah Parsons’ pressure/containment; Hurts’ five first downs on nine scrambles reflect that.
  5. Hurts is likely top 10, not top five.

Notable examples

  • Carter allegedly spits on Dak’s upper chest/neck area; Dak also spit earlier at ground.
  • Hurts: 152 passing yards (19/23), plus career-high five first downs on scrambles; both TDs on scramble runs.
  • Cowboys issues: turnovers, a “range delay,” CD Lamb drops (3-4), and needing more targets for George Pickens.
  • Diggs: apologized to Boston media after not speaking during camp.
  • NFLPA: David White says 18-game schedule isn’t inevitable; hosts call it inevitable and criticize NFLPA leadership.

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Chapters

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Reaction to Spitting Incident

4:44 to 7:30

Discussion on the controversial spitting incident during the game.

“Dallas over there and Dallas and Eagles gave us a whole lot to talk about, you know, especially before, you know, a snap even got started over there for Philly.”

Game Analysis: Eagles vs Cowboys

7:30 to 11:40

Analysis of the game performance and key takeaways.

“Like, the only level below that is getting into a fight with a dude and he beats you up by just slapping you and he never balls.”

Final Thoughts on the Game

11:40 to 14:01

Final comments on what both teams can improve moving forward.

“Yeah, the apology and all, that's, you know, that's great and cool.”

Eagles vs. Cowboys Game Analysis

14:01 to 16:27

Discussion on the Eagles' performance against the Cowboys and key player contributions.

“only had 60 yards rushing, but you leave those stadiums.”

Jalen Hurts: Top QB Debate

16:28 to 17:52

Debate about Jalen Hurts' ranking among NFL quarterbacks and his game style.

“With that being said, do you think he he's a top five quarterback?”

Concerns for the Eagles Moving Forward

17:53 to 19:22

Exploration of potential concerns for the Eagles, including receiver involvement.

“I don't feel comfortable saying top five because, again, my view of the quarterback is just flat tangibles of a quarterback, what he can do at that position.”

Dallas Defense Without Micah Parsons

19:23 to 21:42

Discussion on the impact of Micah Parsons' absence on the Dallas defense.

“Brown getting the receivers more involved, I think that's something that we could do a little calls.”

Hypothetical Trade: Micah Parsons to Eagles

21:43 to 22:51

Speculation on the implications if Micah Parsons were traded to the Eagles.

“So I guess according to Adam Scheffner, the Eagles were in a great big war for Michael Parsons.”

Micah Parsons' Comments on Teammates

22:52 to 24:08

Analysis of Micah Parsons' remarks about his new team compared to his old one.

“Going to Micah Parsons, I guess they're saying that Micah took a little dig at his former Cowboy teammates.”

Locker Room Culture in NFL

26:41 to 28:00

Discussion on the locker room dynamics and work culture in NFL teams.

“And when you're around guys like that, it makes it exciting to come to work.”
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Locker Room Dynamics and Camaraderie

28:00 to 29:58

Explore the importance of camaraderie and teamwork in NFL locker rooms.

“at like dude they're in the facility you're in wisconsin everybody's coming in the facility because you're getting treatment, getting their body rights a thousand percent.”

Stefan Diggs and Media Relations

29:58 to 31:47

Discuss Stefan Diggs' media interactions and the impact on player perception.

“Like you said too, in Cleveland, you just different.”

Understanding Diggs' Actions

31:47 to 34:05

Analyze why Diggs chose to avoid media during training camp and his intentions.

“He said, obviously, I don't want to come across as that.”

NFLPA Leadership and Challenges

34:05 to 35:15

Examine issues within NFLPA leadership and the implications for players.

“And the only way is to stay away from the media, just stay off of it right now.”

The Need for Stronger NFLPA Leadership

35:15 to 41:26

Discuss the necessity for competent leadership in the NFLPA to support players.

“Yeah, so let's get over here to the NFLPA.”

Navigating Health Reimbursement Issues

41:26 to 42:04

Understand the challenges players face in accessing health reimbursements.

“up one little thing, like your HRA, you know, you got all that money in your HRA, right?”

Concerns for NFL Players' Welfare

42:04 to 44:48

Discussion about the challenges faced by retired NFL players and the need for representation that prioritizes their well-being.

“It's things like that that guys are running into.”

Reflections on NFLPA Leadership

44:48 to 46:59

A conversation on the past and current executive leadership within the NFLPA, emphasizing the importance of player advocacy.

Players' Jersey Number Traditions

46:59 to 49:41

A light-hearted discussion on the traditions and negotiations behind acquiring jersey numbers among NFL players.

“He offered him$17 ,000 in exchange for number 17.”

Debate on Generational Talents in Football

49:41 to 56:00

A debate regarding the classification of NFL quarterbacks as generational talents, focusing on specific players and their legacies.

“Bro, I tried to start up at 22, and Mike laughed at me so hard.”

Debate Over Athleticism in Quarterbacks

56:00 to 57:40

Exploring the qualities that define a generational quarterback.

“I think, does he say I can see Drew Brees, but not like, huh?”

Amari Cooper's Sudden Retirement Decision

57:40 to 59:00

Discussion on Amari Cooper's unexpected decision to retire shortly after signing.

“Didn't he just sign like a week ago, right?”

The Reality of Playing in the NFL

59:00 to 1:02:10

Insights into the physical and mental challenges of being an NFL player.

“and I had, you know, I had Kiesel call me.”

Personal Stories from Retirement

1:02:10 to 1:05:20

Sharing personal experiences and decisions made during and after playing.

“I was to my neck up in that thing, bruh.”

Upcoming Boxing Match: Floyd and Mike Tyson

1:05:20 to 1:06:50

Speculation and excitement surrounding the potential boxing match between Tyson and Mayweather.

“Actual weightlifting, though, is only five days a week.”

Lighthearted Banter and Fight Predictions

1:06:50 to 1:10:00

A humorous exchange about potential fights and predictions.

“So, I don't know if that was really – you know, I just can't – I ain't sure, bro.”

Powerball Dreams

1:10:00 to 1:12:42

The hosts discuss their excitement and strategies for playing the Powerball.

“I got Powerball bought up until, I think it's October, the end of October.”

Gratitude and Reflections

1:12:42 to 1:14:15

A conversation about gratitude, personal growth, and maintaining composure in difficult situations.

“fight me and I'm going to pay you good money so everybody can watch me whip your ass boy you hear me whip your ass.”
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5:14Definitely, definitely. Dallas over there and Dallas and Eagles gave us a whole lot to talk about, you know, especially before, you know, a snap even got started over there for Philly. My man Jalen, he wanted to spit on this man right before the kickoff. You know, in my mind, dude, like the most disrespectful thing in the world you could do, man, is spit on somebody. like it's nothing else in this world that you could do that would be worse than than spitting on somebody like if somebody was to spit on me like go ahead get my bail money together like like i'm going to jail i don't know how that had the the control to not like react to it and and

6:02James Harrison:and do something you called me debo yes you called me you called me when this happened i knew you felt some type of way. So I couldn't wait to get your opinion. And that's why I'm saying like the spit. Like I know you feel some type of way. So literally like Debo, you said bail money for show. How would you feel if that would have been you in that situation? What would you have done, my brother? I just needed to... Dude, I can't even... I would have had... I want to say that I would be able to control myself, especially being in that situation. First game of the season. You got to put yourself where it is.

6:41James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? You are a professional athlete. But he did. All right. Let me say something, too. When he spit on your man. So we got Dak did a little spit first. I've seen it. But when he spit on him, Debo, he spit on my man's upper chest plate slash Adam's apple. He spit that on his neck. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, the disrespect, you're right there in closed quarters. And you just really spit on the man. So, like, that's... What are we doing? That's the craziest thing. I had to pause and look at it like, man, this is not normal. Yeah, like, when they said, like, he... I think he spit on him.

7:19I'm like, there's no way he went over there. Spit on him. And, like, nobody reacted. Like, you don't just casually walk up to somebody and spit on them. Like, dude, like, the level of disrespect of spit, it's no level to it. Like, the only level below that is getting into a fight with a dude and he beats you up by just slapping you and he never balls. Just straight open hand slaps. Yeah. Like, that's the only other thing that's closing. And, like, I don't see, the only way I can describe or understand why the offensive line didn't react is that it's no way in hell they saw that. Because that's like an all-out brawl.

8:02Both teams, y 'all just canceled the first regular season game because this is not going to stop.

8:09James Harrison:It gives, like, I would say, you know how, I know how Pouncey rocks. And I'm just saying for the offensive linemen, just for protection, that gives you the right to throw a hand. Yes. Because he literally, he didn't just, he didn't smack your court. He spit on your mask. So now you can obviously, boom, you can fire off on him and you might just get a flag, but he's going to get thrown out because the initial man, the referee was standing right there. He saw the spit. So I think that's maybe why, I don't know if the linemen saw it, but like that gives you a little bit. There's no way on God's green earth, dude, that the linemen saw that.

8:46On the spit. There's no way. There's no way. I don't believe that. If I see that and it is just, it's you, man. And I don't care who it is and they spit on you.

8:59James Harrison:We close quarters. We're close quarters. and he walked over to the other side that's like an automatic he's supposed to be getting hands, feet maybe a helmet all that it's no other level that you can disrespect somebody with other than spitting on them to no extreme I just and the fact that they did not react to it hopefully you saying that they didn't see they had to not see the spit though. It's no way. And just Trace can stay controlled. Yeah, and then like to come out with, you know, Dak's spit, he went in between his linemen and he spit. Dude, he spit at the ground. Like, he's not, he didn't even try and level it out to even make like he was getting to you.

9:47So all that other stuff, you can miss me with that noise. You hit that man.

9:53James Harrison:Here? Full blown. Between here and here. Between here and here. Full blown. He spit, you're out on the field, he spit on the ground. You know what I'm saying? You feel like it's in your direction. You feel disrespected. That's on you, coach. Dude, think about how many times you've been on the field, bro, and you turn your head to spit and you hit somebody's shoe in the front. Yo, my back, my back. For sure. It's a shoe and you ain't even – it's one of your teammates. You just went over in the – Facts, facts, facts, facts, facts, facts, facts. Listen, I believe they got to suspend this dude, man.

10:19I think he got to get at least six games. You got to go ahead and make an example out of this, dude. There's no way it should not be some sort of suspension with this, bro. What do you think? I think he should get suspended for show.

10:33James Harrison:Six game, I don't know six, but you got to make it like you want to make an example. Spit is not, that's not cool. That's not what we're doing. We're playing in this game. You know what I'm saying? Tensions get high. It is what it is, but that's just foul. You ain't even snapped the ball yet, bro. You ain't even got to play. What tension got high? It's the first game of the season. He's building up anger, you know, but you're right. You're right, James. He needs to get suspended. I don't know about—I would say for sure, like, two—I would say at least two games. At least two games. Two games? Just two games for that, bro?

11:07James Harrison:You say six games. Six games? All right. Yeah, I think—yeah. If you want to make an example of him, understand. We could do six and maybe knock down a couple. Okay, no, for sure. We can start off at six and then knock it down. I just, yeah. It's just the, yeah. No, I feel you. You got to hit him where it hurts, and that's going to be in his check. He's going to miss six game checks if that's the case. You know what I'm saying? And that's going to be where it hurts. I would say for sure suspend him. The length of the suspension is debatable. He needs to be suspended. He's not going to, he got to sit down.

11:43James Harrison:You got to sit down. Yeah, the apology and all, that's, you know, that's great and cool. but at the end of the day, man, you spit on somebody. If you're in an argument with somebody, that is the last thing that you are thinking about doing is spitting on them unless... Dude, you don't spit on anybody. You don't spit on anybody. The first time your kids spit, what you do? Pop them in their mouth, right? You don't spit. That just don't make sense, dude. anyway man um him getting kicked out the game really didn't uh help uh it helped the cowboys but it didn't help them enough to win the game i believe 24 to 20 uh the eagles ended up beating them anyway yeah um what what uh what takes uh what things that you see that uh came from this game that you would uh want to you know talk about or point out that the Cowboys could obviously do better to help them, you know, secure that win?

12:46James Harrison:I think it was more, I would say Cowboys, man, the thing is, that's what good teams do. You're going to figure out a way to win the game. The Eagles, Jalen Hurts, he threw for 152 yards, went 19 for 23, 82 % completion rate. You know what I'm saying? Nothing too crazy. But end of the day, when the game, when the season starts, you want to get out of these games with wins. You want to win. You want to get to the next game. You want to get to practice. Watch the tape. Watching tape on a win is way easier than watching a tape on a loss. So Dallas Cowboys, like you and they didn't have their best defense alignment, their interior alignment.

13:22James Harrison:So they ended up being able to just get out of that situation, winning the game. Defense played solid, only gave up 20 points. You know what I'm saying? So these are just messy games where nobody's really into the flow. You don't really know what's going on. A.J. Brown wasn't targeted. He had one catch for eight yards. You know what I'm saying? Like, they just, at the end of the day, their offense wasn't doing too much, but these are the games that you just end up winning. You want to get out of stadiums with W's and not L's because it's way easier to figure out, you know what I'm saying, let's study from this, let's get right, but let's not spit on fucking somebody.

13:53James Harrison:If you're in the game, that'll help our defense to just start off. You know what I'm saying? Like that part. And then we can start A.J. Brown, getting him into the mix. Saquon Barkley, he scored a touchdown, only had 60 yards rushing, but you leave those stadiums. Well, yeah, Jalen made up a lot of that with, you know, scrambling and coming up with big plays, you know, getting in there. I think on, you know, Dallas side of the ball, they need to, you know, I think shore up like just small things. I think they need to get they need to get what's his name? Pickens more involved. They need to get more touches, you know, getting more targets.

14:26And I believe they had over something team targets for for CD. also CD had a few drops. I think he had three or four drops there. But I think the big thing that really hurt him was that turnover and then the rang delay. It seemed like both teams couldn't get started back from that. On defense, again, more pressure from the Dallas defense. Obviously, Parsons isn't there. I wonder why.

14:56James Harrison:I wonder why the lack of pressure, Debo. So, yeah, I mean, you know, Hurts running the ball hurt him. You know, him scrambling, his ability to, you know, extend plays and make plays with his legs was really the big difference. And like you said, he didn't go out there, you know, slinging the ball left and right here and there, but he made up for it, you know, at the points and spots of the game. And that's why I love Jalen, too, at the end of the day, like doing what it takes to win. He's going to, like, we would say you're not great, whatever, whatever but you're gonna he leaves that he leaves that stadium with a w not an l that's on one the eagles are one and oh trying to figure out how to go two and oh you know i'm saying like it's the simple part of at the beginning of the season how do you start buying the a ball you win games that you're not really supposed to win or nobody's really performing like you think they are but you won the game so y 'all are just building consistent you stack those up next thing you know you sitting there four and oh just trying to get your rhythm right like this is the beginning of the season, training camp, nobody's hitting.

15:55James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? But he's making those third and shorts, like scrambling, being able to extend the plays, being able to just do what you got to do to win the game, get out of the stadium. According to the next-gen stats, Jalen Hurts picked up a career-high five first downs on nine scramble runs. Yeah, including the game clenching third down conversion. He also scored both of the touchdowns on scramble runs. Obviously, I think you were impressed by his performance last night. Would that be a correct assumption? A thousand percent. I mean, like, like I. With that being said, do you think he he's a top five quarterback?

16:34No.

16:35James Harrison:See, that's the thing. I never want to give slander to Jalen Hurts. I'm not here for the Jalen Hurts. I'm not saying I'm not I'm not saying you're slander. No, no, no, no, no. But when I say that, when you say he's a top five. I'm prefacing myself to say that I don't know if he's top five. He might be like, he's top 10 for sure. But I'm saying like the way that I think of Aaron Rodgers of being just the best thrower of the ball, you know what I'm saying, compared to like people. The way you think of the position of quarterback, I understand what you're saying. Yes, quarterback position. Yes, yes.

17:05James Harrison:All things being the same, I think if Patrick Mahomes was on the Eagles, they may be better. And that's no disrespect because I love Jalen Hurts. So that's why when I say, if I were to put Joe Burrow there, I think that they may be a little better. You know what I'm saying? And that's not knocking Jalen in any way. He's doing what he's asked to do. He's a great quarterback. He deserves every dollar that he gets. You know what I'm saying? But I just think there's a couple of player quarterbacks that I think that are just a little bit more gifted than him. Throwing the football, you know what I'm saying?

17:36James Harrison:And that's just, as me as being a quarterback, I think that that's just on my top. So I think he would probably be like, he's definitely top 10. He's around probably six or seven. Probably six. I would say six. Okay. I would say six. Okay. Okay. Where do you put it? I'm with you. He's in that top ten. I don't feel comfortable saying top five because, again, my view of the quarterback is just flat tangibles of a quarterback, what he can do at that position. Yes, being able to run afterwards and extend the play, that's an added bonus and all that. but being able to see what you see get it there and uh you know read out of things that's something that he can do you know just sitting in the pocket and like you said tom you look at tom you look at other guys like tom you look at my home same thing with my homes he can see it and if he don't see it he can get up out of there but you know nine times out of ten he's looking to throw the ball so So I think a few of those times, you know, it was opportunity where he could have hit a guy that may have been breaking open and chose to take it off or just maybe later on to read or maybe they're breaking later open.

18:55So I don't know. Was there any cause of concern, you know, from the Eagles last night that you could think of? Anything that?

19:04James Harrison:I mean, it's early. You know, I think A.J. Brown getting involved, you know what I'm saying, just trying to get that passing game going. But like I said, it's early on in the season. Being able to come out of these games with W's is the main thing. So them winning a tough division game, starting off, I think they're on the right path. But like A.J. Brown getting the receivers more involved, I think that's something that we could do a little calls. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. He threw for just a little dump. That big post that he threw, that was a 50-yard pass. You take away that, he went 18 for 22.

19:35James Harrison:for 100 yards. That's real, you know what I'm saying? Dinkin' and Duncan is doing what you got to do, but I would think like more, just a little bit more explosive plays. You know what I'm saying? I think that's probably the only thing for real because they did a good job on defense and they didn't have their best player on. And they didn't, yes. That was something else. Like, I'm not really concerned about it, but I believe they won't have him for a few more weeks if not more than that. And I believe next week, who they play? The Chiefs or something? Oh, man. I think so. Is it? I believe they play the Chiefs next week.

20:09So, you know, coming up on that, not having your your guy in the middle there or possibility of not having him there. That's a lot. That's a lot different game, you know, for them when they're going in there trying to make sure they can stop the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes. So, you know, just from the play that I saw last night, again, the best defensive player wasn't in there. I ain't gonna lie dude I think Dallas might be a little better than what we think bro like

20:40James Harrison:they have talent I think them getting George Pickens also along CD Lamb he dropped some balls, that's not the normal CD he's still a 7 for 110 but he's gonna get right George Pickens is another number one you know what I'm saying, you need to throw that ball to him the same way they're throwing it to CD and that's what I was saying, you need to get him more touches Oh, he's unbelievable. His athletic ability, like, just put him in space, get him the ball, throw him a slant, he can take it to the crib. We've seen it before. You know what I'm saying? So I think just getting able to get him involved, Dak understanding, you got two number ones.

21:14James Harrison:And on the defensive side, man, like, you know, how much you think they missed Micah, though? Oh, big time. Like you said, there wasn't the pressure of being able to – you saw it, Jalen. He ran for five of them first downs being able to just escape. Like, they weren't compressing the pocket, being able to keep him contained. So I think with Micah there, he would have been able to get to him. He's the best defensive lineman they have by far. He's the best defensive player they have. He's the best player on their team. And he was not there to help run that man down and stop some of those touchdowns that he was able to convert.

21:44James Harrison:Yeah, yeah. So I guess according to Adam Scheffner, the Eagles were in a great big war for Michael Parsons. like it's no way in hell that Jerry Jones was gonna give Michael Parsons to the Eagles no no no dude that's probably why he was talking about yeah he got two or three more years here like he let him sit there and do nothing before he give him to the Eagles for sure that was the last place imagine dude the Eagles with Michael Parsons right now. No. That game would have got ugly. Way uglier. There's no way. There's no way. There's no way. I mean, they would have had to give them, he would have got the haul that he deserved.

22:36James Harrison:They would have had to give him six first round picks. They would have had to. They would have had to. Dude, I don't even think he would have gave, if they gave him, I would not have done, it would have been the worst move he could have ever made in his life. You're almost all but guaranteeing that you will never beat the Eagles for the foreseeable future. Yeah, that's right. That's right. I just don't. Dude, I just don't. I just don't see it happen. Going to Micah Parsons, I guess they're saying that Micah took a little dig at his former Cowboy teammates. Let's see. By praising his Packers teammates, he said, I tell you, I've never been in a locker room with guys like this.

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23:20I come in Tuesday for treatment and I saw almost every guy in the locker room. This is the first time I've seen this. He said, he goes on and say, that just shows how much these guys want to be here. They just want to be around. They just want to be around each other.

23:38James Harrison:What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y 'all? It's your girl, Sam Jay. And we're the hosts of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real, women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week.

24:12James Harrison:Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports. Naomi Osaka showing out. She beat Sabalenka. Shout out to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened. We're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports. Listen to Everyone Watches Women's Sports on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

24:38James Harrison:Hey, Portlandia fans. Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. You know us, or rather, you know them. Tony and Candice, Nina and Lance, Spike, and yes, the chicken. We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia, AO Rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made?

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26:46each other and hang out. I think that's important. And when you're around guys like that, it makes it exciting to come to work. Do you think he was taking a dig at his former team or do you think he's just excited to have an opportunity to be on a team?

27:03James Harrison:That man, Debo, that man is in Wisconsin. There ain't nothing to do out there. Everybody's at the facility getting right, chilling, getting treatment for sure. Where are we going to be? What are we going to do? So understandably, I think that Micah got to understand. It's like Wisconsin is a little different than Dallas. But I understand when you come into a new spot, you're bringing that good energy. You're saying what you see. I think that it's dope that everybody's in the facility. You know, I think everybody's getting that treatment, getting that work in early. Dallas, Tuesday's the day off, Debo.

27:38James Harrison:We know this. What are people doing on Tuesdays? That's your time that you don't have to come to the facility, actually. you can chill you can do what you want to do so being that in he's saying wisconsin everybody's there they're getting treatment i was meeting people on a tuesday that's the day off so he's saying everybody's in the facility maybe in dallas finally the day off people aren't in there as much you know i'm saying you can come get your lifted you cannot but i think he's saying i'm i'm looking at like dude they're in the facility you're in wisconsin everybody's coming in the facility because you're getting treatment, getting their body rights a thousand percent.

28:12James Harrison:But I don't think it's that serious. I don't see it as a dig at the Cowboys. I see it as him being exposed to a different locker room, a different way of moving. So from the time I was in Pittsburgh from 2002 until probably 2012, that's what we had. We had a group of dudes that were in there. Everybody were in there together. We hung out on the off time. you know we'd go out hang out do whatever go out kick it and first thing in the morning you know 6 37 o 'clock you're in the gym at the latest working out getting it going and that's just the you know that's just the atmosphere that those players from that time to us passed down and it it just continued and to to be honest with you like as it went further and further in 2012 I ended up going to uh Cincinnati in 13 and you know I came back unretired and was back in 14 and it wasn't it wasn't the same you know what I'm saying you didn't have the same where it was a whole you know like team thing you had you had your little cut up groups you know what I mean like you had your groups like maybe it was offense defense where before it was just everybody you know I'm saying when Bussie and all them was there it was everybody now it was a little more offense defense and then it even got you know some things got cut down even more than that you know it was positionally you know it might be you know receivers and and and dvs and all that so i understand what he's saying he's not taking a knock he's being exposed to something else that he didn't think would happen because that's that's all he was exposed to this is something new and he likes it he's enjoying it and he'm not he's not taking a knock at somebody else.

29:58He's saying I'm seeing something else and it's good. I like it. I want more of it. I love that.

30:02James Harrison:I love that. No, for sure. Like you said too, in Cleveland, you just different. Like when I went from, in Cleveland on Tuesdays, like you said, this is a day off. You have, like you said, positional groups. We were really cool. Defenses get tight. But when I came to Pittsburgh, Will Gay and those dudes, they will always have some stuff like those defensive meetings. There was like mandatory kick-its. You know what I'm saying? Like not really mandatory, but dudes wanted to hang out. Like, we're going to watch this film, and we're going to get some good food, like, and just really bond and be able to talk and really be able to get this camaraderie.

30:35James Harrison:So there's different, and that's what I was trying to do when I was in Cleveland at first, some OGs, Abe Elam. Dudes that do it, you kind of, like I said, you just fall into it because the OG going to tell you kind of where we going, where we meeting at, and that's what you're going to do. And then when you become an OG, you want to set that thing up too with the food, making sure everybody's good. So they feel a part. Everybody knows we in this together. End of the day, we grinded. We figuring it out. But meeting and us doing these little out of the, off the team of coaches is not here. This is what makes me know your family.

31:05James Harrison:What makes me feel like we are actually bonding, you know what I'm saying, getting along that camaraderie. So I understand exactly what you're saying from that perspective because that's a real thing. Maybe they weren't doing as much in Dallas. Like you said, the OGs probably didn't bring them in as much, didn't like take them out to dinners or show them the way, you know what I'm saying, people want to get led. And now he goes there, it's a whole different vibe. Dang, I got somebody really like, oh, dang, that's what's good. Like, boom, so this is what we're doing. And everybody's just kicking it, cooling that.

31:30James Harrison:He's like, man, these dudes are some good-ass dudes. Right, right, right. Speaking of people that was doing things the way he just found out they're doing them, I guess Stefan Diggs' decision to not speak to the Boston media rubbed the local reporters the wrong way. It says Diggs apologized, I guess, for coming off Rube. He said, obviously, I don't want to come across as that. Well, they said he was a pain in the posterior. Yeah. Dude, my braces be locking me up, bro. Posterior, posterior. Yeah. He was a pain in the ass. Obviously, they said posterior. So it wasn't one of us. But he said, obviously, I don't want to come across as that.

32:20I'm going to say this I want to be very clear I'm an adult, I apologize I'm not up here to ego trip I'm not up here to rub anybody the wrong way or say anything that's clickbait if I rubbed anyone wrong I really want to apologize so like, you know, the man said he's up there, he's trying to lock in, he's making sure he takes care of his body, he takes care of his mind you know it's camp he didn't want to get you know into the whole rigmarole yet you know and right now I guess you know you're at the point where it's mandatory now you know so he's doing what it is that he has to do right now but you know at that point in camp he was saying he wanted to lock in and I guess the the two uh individuals they actually uh I guess had a little apology too Do you think that that's something that you would do or that – do you think he was actually just locking in or do you think he was just being an a-hole, as they say?

33:27A pain to – I can't even say the word, bro.

33:30James Harrison:I don't think – I know Diggs personally. That's my other man. He's from the DMV. We're from the same area. Like, I know him. I know his brother, all of them. And Diggs is a really, really good dude. I would say that, you know, he had a lot of off the field stuff really going on. You know what I'm saying? He was in a situation. So he just wanted to keep it football. He's in a new team, knows what they're trying to talk about. And he really wants to keep the man thing the man thing. Coming off an injury, he knows he got some stuff to prove. And I think he's going to do it. So I don't think he was trying to be an asshole.

34:00James Harrison:He just knows that people are trying to make the story not what it is. And he just wants to keep it on football. And the only way is to stay away from the media, just stay off of it right now. really lock in, try to be the Patriot way of, oh, like, don't really worry about that. You know what I'm saying? You're locked in. You got, you're trying to do football. You know what I'm saying? So I understand where he's coming from. And now just getting back to the media, you're going to have to respond. You're going to talk. So I think he really, really genuinely does want to apologize, really did do that genuinely from his heart because he's a good dude.

34:30James Harrison:He doesn't mean any harm, but he knows how the media is and they can tie things up and try to make him look crazy. So staying away from him is a way like you're not going to be able to confuse nothing if I don't say nothing, if I don't talk to y 'all. You know what I'm saying? I think that was great. You can't mix up my words. If I don't say nothing to you, then it ain't nothing that you confuse. All you can say is that I'm going to ask him because I don't want to talk to you. You know what I'm saying? So that's the most you can say. That's what they were saying. He's not talking to us, so fuck him.

34:56James Harrison:But basically, he's like, you're not going to be able to say nothing because I'm really locked in. I'm on my football. You haven't seen nothing about Diggs. I love that man. So I'm rooting for him. I hope the best, nothing but the best for Diggs. So I think that that's what he was on. Like, nah, don't get this confused. I really got, I'm on a new team. I'm coming off injury. I'm trying to ball out. That's what it is. Yeah, so let's get over here to the NFLPA. I guess the NFLPA interim director, David White, says an 18-game schedule is not inevitable. What do you think of that comment, bro? Man, they tripping.

35:28They just trying to get more and more back. As far as him saying that it's not inevitable for me, that's an absolute lie. That is inevitable. That is going to be one of the things that the NFL is going to want when it comes time for them to renegotiate this new collective bargaining agreement. with that being said him not saying it's not inevitable it is inevitable it's it's it's going to happen and if you're saying that it's not I don't believe you're you you've got yourself into a situation that you understand he's lying to you what is going on obviously and you haven't been through the history of how this whole thing has went down I don't know if you were playing when Gene Upshaw was the, in the position that he's in now as the executive director.

36:27So when Gene was in there, he had told us, dude, this was like 2007, 2008. He was like, yo, the NFL is going to lock you out. You guys need to save up money and you need to save up 100 % of what it is that you make over the course of the next, I believe he said, two or three years at that time, to make sure you can make it through a 12-month lockout. Because he said, come 2011, they're going to lock us out. He ended up not making it to that. He ended up passing, I believe it was 2008. And then we got the worst commissioner to ever, I mean, we got the worst executive director to ever have, and that was D.

37:14Smith. D. Smith did everything possible to just increase the power that he had. As the NFLPA, you know, executive director for the players, it wasn't anything. You know what I'm saying? He made it to where he took a lot of the power away from the players, being able to make the decisions of who could actually even be voted in as a executive director. He put a whole executive committee together that actually voted on who would run against him. The committee he put together voted on who would run against him and took that vote away from the players, where before the players actually made the vote of, you know, who it is they wanted to run.

38:13And then from there, they voted on, you know, who would do it. I don't believe David White has a good understanding. Prime example, I went down to the facility yesterday, the Steelers facility yesterday, and he was supposed to be down there. I believe it was him, Don Davis, who is the chief player officer, and uh Jalen Maven I believe is his name I really don't know he's supposed to be the president of uh active players he's not even an active player right now himself he's not even on a roster but they were supposed to be there and this is supposed to be his very first trip to Pittsburgh and he doesn't even show up no bruh he he doesn't even he doesn't even show up for it Right.

39:01So now, like even D. Smith, as bad as he was, came when he was supposed to show up. So you're telling me that's the interim executive director for his first trip introduction to the group of guys he's supposed to be, you know, out here working for and defending doesn't even show up. your chief uh officer your what is it your chief player officer he doesn't he doesn't show up all three of these dudes don't show up and on top of that did they did they did they send a message did they send an email no no no i knew of nothing why they weren't showing up you had a couple other um nfl pa reps that showed up that assumed that they were already there and I'm like, no, they're not there.

39:55They're not on the field. So, you know, the NFLPA leadership, dude, is weak at every level. We need strong leadership. We need competent leadership.

40:07James Harrison:You're not going to show up. Here's the crazy thing, bro. That just doesn't make any sense. Before the last one, I went and was like, yo, I want to run for executive director. I told Don Davis this. he never dropped my name in a hat. I know this for a fact because I talked to a person that is now executive committee and you know why that happened? Because he was trying to get it. Debo, what was it? I was currently trying to get it now. But again, man, I'm running for executive director. My name will be in a hat. It will be there. So, So the leadership that we need is a guy that is like Gene Upshaw was.

40:54He was a guy that played the game. He understands what we go through. He understands what happens. Like, I'm a guy. I was a practice squad guy. I was a guy that was a minimum guy. I was a guy that actually made money. And I'm a guy that's retired right now. So I know all the things that we go through, that we've been through. and you're going to go through when that time comes that you're, you know, done with football or football is done with you, you know, and it's just, you know, the difficulty. I'll just bring up one little thing, like your HRA, you know, you got all that money in your HRA, right?

41:30And that's for your, that's for, you know, when you get done, you got your health reimbursement stuff, so you can get your insurance paid and all that stuff, right? Well, for you to get that reimbursement, the money's here, right? The money's here, but the money is there. But what you got to do to get to it, you don't know it's a field of broken glass you got to crawl through. Dude, it took me almost two hours and 34 minutes just to get back 50 bucks of reimbursement of a credit thing. And that was only because I got lucky and got a hold of a signal person that sat down there with me and actually called the other insurance company.

42:06It's things like that that guys are running into. So when you have guys that are retired and they're like, you know, I can't get this, I can't get that. And you know, you tell him, get your HRA. Well, yeah, it's there. He just can't get to it because he got to crawl across this glass that he can't get to. And if you're a guy that has a regular nine to five, they're only open regular hours. So you don't have the time to sit there and do all that to actually, you know, go through if you learn it. I actually talked to four different people before I got one guy that actually sat down there with me on the phone for, like I said, two hours and 34 minutes and went through the process to show me how it was done.

42:41With that being said, I'm just concerned that as interim, I hope it's just the interim because we need somebody in there that knows exactly what we go through, what we're going to go through, that can go in there and actually speak for the players, that's trying to make it better for the players and not trying to make it better for them to keep power, position, and money. That's all I would say.

43:07James Harrison:No, I ain't going to lie to you, D-Bo. You're speaking facts, brother. You are. Because at the end of the day, you're not coming to – you're not looking for any – you don't want to gain anything. You want to help people out. Like, you've been in a situation, like you said, you were undrafted. You ended up being minimum. You had a contract, and now you're retired, grown, kids, everything. The whole situation. So you've seen it on so many different levels that you're not trying to act a certain way. You just know that it's hard once you get retired and trying to figure some stuff out of the situations, like just how to how to how to continue to keep going.

43:40James Harrison:And you just want to look out for the dudes that are in the league that know this your time is going to come. You know what I'm saying? Like you is sweet once it is. But once you get out, you really need to have people that are trying to protect you and not looking for a game, not looking for their self to literally date. You don't want it for yourself. You're looking out for the next generation. So I think that's exactly I can't get nothing from it now. I'm done. It's about the future of the guys. I'm with you. What's the position that we're looking for you to get, D-Bo? We want you to be president.

44:09We want me to be the executive director of the NFLPA. Executive director. That's what we're shooting for.

44:16James Harrison:That is what we're going for, dude. I'm done. Okay? Look, it's done. Executive director of the NFLPA. D-Bo, because I ain't going to lie to you, though. I love when it matches. It's not like we're trying to do something that doesn't make sense. It makes perfect sense. You deserve to be the NFL executive director or the NFLPA because you're going to do what needs to be done for the players. You're not trying to get over. You're trying to look out, and that's what the NFLPA is supposed to do. Look out for the players. Look out for the guys. I think when Gene passed and it was passed over or they voted for D.

44:55Smith, it it didn't become that like no longer did we hear a stave up is going to be a locked out and all that other stuff like he was telling us that like in 2007 gene was telling us that in 2007 yo they're gonna lock us out you need you guys need to save up and make sure you can make it through a year he got in there and all of a sudden it was like yeah you know what happened to what you know gene was saying you know oh and then come the last hour they're like oh yeah um they're gonna to lock you out we're going to try and help guys with this and that dude if guys had listened from the very beginning and you continue to push that as you should have instead of it being a oh we could they could lock us out so make sure you save something then guys wouldn't have been able to hold out but at the end of the day even though the guys that you know were able to do it or wasn't able to do it the the message should have been the same yeah and when it came down to it you should have the guy as the executive director to do the hard thing and make it to where guys would get exactly what they wanted some people got to learn hard lessons the hard way everybody was told the same thing yeah so just because you know he told me well you know james we had a certain percentage of guys that just you know they wanted to go back they couldn't i'm like dude you're not there for a certain percentage of guys you're there for everybody you're there for the nflp the nflpa that's all players not the ones that just didn't listen like you're trying to make it better i'm not gonna let my son do something that i know is not going to benefit him in his future just because he's he wants to do it right now short or he he right he wants something for the short term you know like it just it just it just didn't make sense man and you know you go that long just to come out with a deal that you know it wasn't even worth going through the fight of it like it wasn't even a fight when it came down to it yeah so I guess uh I guess Devontae Adams, when he was dealt to the Jets last year, he asked the rookie receiver, Malachi, I guess, for his 17.

47:21He offered him$17 ,000 in exchange for number 17. According to Devontae, man, he told him he need a million.

47:33James Harrison:God! A million?

47:40You said, hey, man, it's good to have you. Happy to have you on the squad, but I need a million. I'm going to need a whole meal ticket for that one. But I'm going to need a million. Who is that? Corley, Malachi Corley, who is that? I don't know.

47:58James Harrison:I'm trying to think. I got a little bruh up, but I don't. Acting for a million is wild. That's out of control. Acting for a million is crazy. I had to pay when I was in the Browns, when I first got there, it threw me in the craziest, stankiest number you could ever imagine. I was in number 40. And then I had to get that thing off to Peyton Hillis. And I bought number 23 for 20 bands. As a rookie, I bought that joint for 20 bands. And then when I came to Pittsburgh, my man Mike Mitchell, shout out Mike Mitchell. I tried to buy 23 off Mike Mitchell. right what do you say what do you say oh do you want to know oh i gotta oh yeah so first i tried to pop off boom i got 20 bands for you mike not rocking laughed at that laughed at the 20 all right back i got 50 for you mike laughed at that i got 75 for you mike laughed at that last thing mike because he know he got to buy another number we got rob g there 21 i say I got 200 bands for you, Mike.

49:09James Harrison:He was like, no, I got my foundation and everything under my jersey, under 2-3. I said, oh, man, well, I can't do nothing for you then. So then Mike kept the 23. That's what my rookie year, I had 21. Ended up buying it off Rob G for the 20 bands. Rob G was Geechee. No question. You know what I'm saying? He went to 20. No question. Like nothing happened. Oh, he was ecstatic. Took that 20 so fast. Rob G, great man. Love Rob G. So now I was in the 21, and then next year, they ended up letting go of my man, Mike Mitchell, and then I got 23 for free. That was the crazy part. Yeah, I ain't going to lie.

49:45I might have... Somebody offered me a hundred bucks. Bro, I tried to start up at 22, and Mike laughed at me so hard.

49:52James Harrison:So then I just tried to go. 50, 70. I ain't going to lie, I ought to laugh too. But once you got to that hundred bucks, I would have been like... I said, man, look, Mike. I don't look. Because he was like, man, I might have... It's just a number. I don't have nothing. Mike, I'm going to give you this$100 ,000 and you're going to give me number 23. Cash. Ah, cash. In your hand. $100 ,000 American currency. Cash in your hand. Buy. Dollars. And he said, ah, no. No, after that, I'm going number 21. Yeah, so I went to... What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y 'all? It's your girl, Sam Jay.

50:32James Harrison:And we're the hosts of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real, women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is just like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports.

51:04James Harrison:Naomi Osaka showing out. She beat Sabalenka. Shout-outs to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened, we're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports. Listen to Everyone Watches Women's Sports on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

51:27James Harrison:Hey, Portlandia fans. Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. You know us, or rather, you know them. Tony and Candace, Nina and Lance, Spike, and yes, the chicken. We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia, AO Rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made?

52:00James Harrison:Why do we think that was a good idea? We're ready to talk about it. And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. Guest stars, collaborators, and friends, including director Jonathan Kreisel, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more. Kyle is going for it here. You fully improvised, not just words, but a song, a melody. Well, I thought he was going to write, I thought you were all going to write a song. I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia. Ayo Rewatch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

52:35James Harrison:This is Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea. Every week, the news gets worse, the world gets crazier, and Yamanika is here to tell whoever's responsible, you're the problem. If you come over here to play games, I'ma check you, okay? If you do some in the news that don't sound good, I'ma play you. Join Yamanika Saunders as she breaks down the week's most problematic stories on our new podcast, You're the Problem with Yamanika. Do you know I just found out who Sydney Sweeney was? New episodes weekly every Wednesday as part of my new network, the Dear Chelsea Network. If he got a bunch of women, then I should have a bunch of men.

53:14James Harrison:Do better or do less so I don't have to do so much. So join Yamanika each episode as she answers one question. Who's the problem? I'm Yamanika and I'm out. Listen to You're the Problem with Yamanika on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

53:35Uh, what was it, New England? And it was a dude that had 92. And I'm like, yo, let me, you know, let me get 92, what you want for it? Dude. Hey, I don't even remember what his name was, but he blessed your boy. You know what he said? What he said? Three grand.

53:55James Harrison:Oh, you need to send him a Christmas card. I can't remember his name, bro. Man, we got to find whoever was 92 when you went there. We can find him because I love him. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie to you. I wasn't going to pay much. No, no, no. For sure. For sure. He said right around the number. You was like this. That three was cool, though. That three bands. He was like this. Hey, he said, dude, if it depends on what's up, I wasn't going to be like, no, man. What? I'm here for like two months, bro. He was like, yeah. He's like, three. I'm like, say less. Here, cash out my. Oh, for sure.

54:30Cash out you three, man. Dang. No question, dude. Yeah, but I ain't going to lie. That's crazy. He showed up. I thought he was going to do something, you know, something out of control. Oh, my goodness.

54:42James Harrison:No, Devo, I'm happy for your story. Yeah. Oh, no. Yes. I'm out 40 for two numbers. Here's the crazy thing. So when I unretired, I came back and it was a guy that I believe he had 92, but he hadn't made like like active or whatever it was. So they basically just, you know, just got it from him. However, however it went, if he was actually active, I wouldn't have been able to switch into the number like when I came in. So because of the timing of the season when it started. so if he had actually got active and onto the field he would have been holding on to the number yeah oh that actually worked out perfectly oh yeah dude that worked out to no end bro yeah so my guy rc says that uh tom brady was not a generational talent at quarterback this is this can't be right is this real he said i think i think john elway was a generational talent.

55:43I think Patrick Mahomes is a generational talent. I don't think Tom Brady. I don't think Drew Brees. I don't think Peyton Manning are generational talents.

55:55I didn't hear this. He said this on TV? I didn't. That's what it's saying that was said. I don't. Huh?

56:11James Harrison:I think, does he say I can see Drew Brees, but not like, huh? I think, was he saying like, does he have to see athleticism to be a generational? I don't know, man. I'm not going to run with this one right here, to be honest with you, because I just absolutely do not understand the whole concept of it. I'm trying to find out what he said, she said to me. Yeah, I'm trying to find out how. It can only be athletically. Athletically? Dude, if I'm talking about the position of quarterback and I'm like all the intangibles of what I need as a quarterback. And I have a line to protect him. I have a running game to assist him.

56:56My quarterback, I'm not going to lie to you, is going to be Tom Brady. He's going to walk you down the field and win. Yeah, like he's going to see it, get to it. you know

57:07James Harrison:and he did it again in Tampa oh 40 I just I don't know I don't know why he would say that about Tom I have no clue brother yep I'm not going to let that one go Amari Cooper he told I can relate to this I ain't going to lie to you I can relate to this so Amari Cooper informed the team that he no longer has a desire to play and intends to retire, right? Mm-hmm. But what do you think of that? Didn't he just sign like a week ago, right? I don't. Did he just sign? And he just retired? With the Raiders, right? I believe it was. Went back to, yeah, I want to say it was a week ago. So he had to be there.

57:55James Harrison:So like, yeah. I mean, you know what it is, Debo? If he just signed a week ago, that means he didn't do training camp, didn't do none of that. So he went back, got into the grind, and really was like, ah, you know, like I don't love it. It's about to be a whole season of this, you know? And, I mean, he's played 10 years. Amari Cooper, at the end of the day, I mean, he made some money, you know? At the end of the day, they're not getting any slower. They're not getting any weaker out there. These dudes are out there trying to get it. Everybody, every year, new NFL season. The NFL is not a game.

58:31James Harrison:It's not nowhere you just, oh, yeah, I'm just jumping on there and just go play with these. No, you're going to get hurt. You're going to get smacked out there. They're not playing. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not a game. They're playing no games. No, you don't just go play football, NFL football. No, that's a business decision when you go out there and join it that you're making with your body and your life. It's a 100 % business decision. But it's also, well, for me, when I came back and unretired, I was done. I was good, bro. and I had, you know, I had Kiesel call me. It's like, you know, 4.30 in the morning.

59:08I'm getting up to get ready to go work out. I get a call. Kiesel's like, hey, you ready to come back? I'm like, no. What you talking about? Man, we got this down. We got that down. I'm like, I don't, hey, brother, I don't know what you're talking about. I ain't coming back. You know, I'm done bunt. And then, you know, I got a call from Troy and Troy's like, yo, we're going to need you to come back and da da da da da da da. I'm like Troy listen brother I'm not coming back. I'm good bro. I'm happy I'm out here living life you know what I'm saying. I'm feeling good bro and then Ike called me. He fresh out of surgery.

59:43He just broke his forearm and he like bro we need you. I said alright hold up I tell y 'all what I do. It's a good feeling to be wanted brother. You got the homies hitting you Well you know I played so long with them dudes. That's my brothers. You know my kids call them uncles. That's uncles. Them uncles. That's Uncle Troy. That's Uncle Keith. Those are their uncles. So I'm like, you know what? I don't want to feel like I'm letting my brothers down. I said, but if my kids say no, bro, that's going to be it. I'm not doing it. So I'm like, I'm going to call my kids. I'm going to see what they say.

1:00:18And I'm like, if they say no, that's it. If they say yeah, then I do it. And that was after I'd already you know, spent that year in Cincinnati and I really, you know, I really just didn't want to be away. So I called my kids. I'm like, yo, Hey, I actually, uh, had them on FaceTime, made sure, uh, it was recorded. I had, I had to show proof when they said no, which I just knew they was going to say no. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, Hey, you know, daddy got a chance to, uh, you know, come back and play football. Um, so you guys, you would have to wait you know to get into your contact football you still be doing you're doing flag all that whatever it was like okay um but uh where where you know where it's gonna be i'm like it's in pittsburgh it's like all right cool yeah yeah you could do that i'm like damn they hyped they did not do it so get into fast forward into that first week where amari is that right now that first week i was supposed to get like 15 snaps so i'm preparing myself but as i'm going through that week of practice, bro.

1:01:24The second day, I come in, you know, the soreness setting in for the next day, but it don't really set in until that Thursday. Dude, if it wasn't for the fact that my daddy told me, you start, you finish what you start, I was going to give them whatever they wanted to let me get up out of there. My body was hurting so bad, dude, and I was only out of it for like an off season and like maybe the first two, three weeks of the season, dude. Bruh, you talking about taking anything I could to try and kill the pain, try and knock down the inflammation, the swelling, laying in, like I was cold plunging before cold plunging was cool, bruh.

1:02:11I was to my neck up in that thing, bruh. Like I'm just, and I'm sitting there, I'm sitting at my locker. And so we go through the week. We end up playing Tampa. And Coach T comes through the locker room. So now, you know, I'm into the second week. I'm feeling better. I'm feeling good. And he's like, how you feeling? I'm like, oh, I'm good. No, he said, yeah. He said, I was going to come over and talk to you on Thursday. He said, but it looked like you was making decisions in your head. And I didn't want to give you an opportunity to step out of this.

1:02:46James Harrison:It was all over your eyes. It was all over my face, man. I guess he, man. Yeah. So when you get into that, especially with him being out of it, just signing that week, I totally understand what he's talking about. I could see how it could happen because, like I said, I was in that position. And that is not an easy position to be in, especially as you get older, man. You're like, I got this sitting in the bank, man. Do I really want to do this? you know and for me i i continued because you know your body hardened back up to it and then i like he said i fell back in you know in love with the process the game and all that ended up signing a you know a couple more years and even when i went to um new england dude i could have went back to new england and bill was like uh i want to bring you back but i want to wait till after the draft so that i don't tell you something that's not true i want to i'm gonna be able to tell you exactly what your role is going to be.

1:03:42So, you know, I want to sign you after the draft. And that way, you know, I won't tell you anything that's not true. We can go from there. I'm like, all right, cool. And the more I sat back, I'm like, dude, I just don't want to be away from home again. And it's just not something I want to do. And I was like, you know what? I got to retire because if he offers it to me, I know I'm going to take it because I love the game. I want to play the game. And I was like, yeah, I got to retire before that happens. Because once I started, I got to finish it. No, for sure.

1:04:11James Harrison:So, man, that's good, though, Devo, that you can even do that. Your body, the way that you work out, the way that you maintain yourself, though, is a true testament. I ain't going to lie. Because once I stopped and I retired, I stopped, like, the treatment, just taking care of my body to be able to stay elite. Like, there's no off-season when you're in the NFL. So, when you stop for real and, like, stop working out, stop getting that massage and stop getting that treatment, then I did it for a year. And then once that happened, then my body was kind of – I was out of the way. I can tell you still lifting up the whole gym.

1:04:43James Harrison:So I can tell you still stay in the shape. Yeah, I ain't lifting up the whole gym. I'm just I'm still taking care of my body, though. I'm just not doing it, you know, to the level that I was when I was playing. I'm not, you know, I'm not seeing a chiropractor twice a week. I'm not seeing, you know, my docs and, you know, for IVs and all that stuff twice a week. I'm doing, you know, acupuncture, dry needling every week, all that. You know, I'm doing normal massage maybe once a week, some acupuncture once a week, and I'll see my chiro. You know, maybe. It depends on how I feel, to be honest with you.

1:05:19You know, it may be every, you know, month, every couple months. It just really depends on how I feel. How often are you working out, Debo? That's what I need to know. Five to six days a week. Well, five to seven days a week. Okay. Okay. Yeah, it just depends. Is it certain days they call it? Actual weightlifting, though, is only five days a week. I cut that down. It used to be six. So I'm Monday through Friday with weights and, you know, cardio, whatever it may be, you know, through the six day.

1:05:52James Harrison:I got to get you in the gym with my dad. My dad was like, I would love to get in the gym with Debo. They watch. You probably watch. Oh, yeah. Shout out Pops with that one. Pops, Debo, definitely get y 'all in the gym together and I'm going to film the workout. It's going to be amazing. Let's get it. I know you got one right there. I know you got a gym there. Speaking of Jim, man, hey, they say that boxing legend Mike Tyson, Floyd, they about to get it on. Exhibition, I believe it's 2026 next year. Not a date set, but it's supposed to be Floyd and Mike Tyson. What you think of that, man? They going to get my money.

1:06:25James Harrison:I'm going to watch. You know what I'm saying? But what we got going on here, man? I just seen Mike and Adrian. I'm glad my man didn't try to knock. Buddy, Jake Paul could have knocked out Mike Tyson, and they fight. Like, that dream was not – it was a little bit sad to see. I don't want to see Mike. See, I'm trying to – I don't want to see Mike in a situation. I think Floyd might just – I don't know. I don't know if he – you know, the contract was kind of set up, so he needed to make it go a while. You know what I'm saying? So, I don't know if that was really – you know, I just can't – I ain't sure, bro.

1:07:00Bro. Like, if that – because I seen him training. I seen him doing this here. Bro.

1:07:05James Harrison:He could give you – a minute of that. He's getting older, D-Bo. I'm just saying. He ain't even give him a minute, though. He was in the Jones. If he gave him a minute. I ain't see none of this training, George. He ain't give me no purys. He ain't give me no purys. I needed to see him. Let him fly. Let him fly, Mike. He was doing all that. I ain't see none of that. I ain't see none of that. I don't know. I just want to see Hazel. I'm with you. I don't even know if I want to. I would want to see this. Little on Floyd too, though. But I'm telling you, Floyd don't play. I like Floyd's... Floyd got actual hands.

1:07:45James Harrison:So I'm just saying... Floyd is not going to stand there. He's going to sit there... Floyd ain't going to stand there. He's going to sit there and tag... He's going to sit there and tag Mike's ass. But it's going to be like, you know... Like a little bumble... Like a little sting? Right. It's going to be like little sting. You know, it ain't even that. I need to know how many rounds I need to know how many rounds the length of the rounds come on listen man why your boy Chad up here talking crazy last night about fighting me man take a listen to this bro oh please let me hear you know who I might spit on I'm gonna spit on Debo oh I'm gonna make him fight me I'm gonna make him fight He gonna fight you, all right?

1:08:34James Harrison:You gotta do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because I want him extremely mad. I want him angry. I want him to exert so much energy trying to hurt me where I use it against him. Because I'm gonna be nice and calm and relaxed. I don't know. Not no MMA. You ain't gonna be nice, calm, and relaxed. Man, I don't mean... Alright. You don't believe in your co-host? Sit on me if you want to, man. I bet the chat believe in me. Chat, come February time, guarantee you I beat Debo ass. I guarantee you tell you man he don't got no combat sports background like me. Hell oh hey man he like to hear himself talk man that man spit on me it ain't no rule in this world that's gonna stop me from trying to kill his ass.

1:09:28James Harrison:I saw it for my own eyes. I wouldn't believe that he said it if I didn't see it. Bruh. Bruh. You beyond you beyond fight rules. I am going to try and take your life. Oh no, Debo. Oh yes. Hands. But you are you when you say you hands. I'm beyond hands and feet, bruh. Oh no. You spit on me. I am going to try and take your life. They gonna have to choke me out to get me off of you.

1:10:00I'm stressing out. it ain't nothing to stress out about. You know what I'm stressing out about? What you stressing out about? Powerball 1.7 billion. I need that. I already got a ticket. I got my tickets already bought. How many numbers you got to put in? How many numbers you got to put in? I got Powerball bought up until, I think it's October, the end of October.

1:10:19James Harrison:How many numbers you got to put in for the Powerball? Six. Six? Okay. All right. Yeah. I got two of them right now. I'm going 23-92. Ain't no 92. You got to flip it around. 29. Okay. You could flip it around. You could go 23, 92. I mean, sorry, 23, 29. You could go nine and two. Okay. Then nine, then two, then three. No, three and two. You could have your Powerball be a two. How many numbers we have now? All right. Twenty, two, three, two, nine, four, five, six, seven. Three. We only need six, though. Okay. It's five and one. 23, 29, that's four. And I'm going to do nine, two. No, no, no, no, brother.

1:11:06That's them two numbers, Joe. Them two numbers. Oh. I ain't never played the Powerball.

1:11:15So 23 and 29 would be two numbers. Nine is a number? Nine is one. Two can be one. And then three can be your other one.

1:11:24James Harrison:Okay, so that's one, two, three, four, five. That's five numbers. Right. Okay. No, that's six. And then two is my power ball. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Hold on. Let's do it like this. 23-92. Hey, man, I'm going to be mad than a muck if this hit because we about to tell everybody how you about to play these numbers. They probably going to play that same shit. All right, listen. We're going to run it like this. We're going to run it like this. It's going to be 23. It's going to be nine. It's going to be two. Uh-huh. we go bump that back with a 32

1:12:05a 29 and since we both got two in our number to powerball the two but it's book it's book

1:12:15James Harrison:we hit with this one bro I'm gonna be the happiest man ever I'm going to have to you got to write you got to send that send me that send me what I just told you to put down there because I'm going to have to play that number bro I got you listen if if we hit this the subscribers whoever subscribed right now we going to look out y 'all better subscribe if we hit this you know what I'm going to do I'm going to pay you to come fight me and I'm going to pay you good money so everybody can watch me whip your ass boy you hear me whip your ass. Hey. Hey, guys, we want to thank y 'all for joining us on this episode of Deebo and Joe.

1:12:57We need y 'all to go over there, hit that like button, hit that subscribe button, and we going to get back to y 'all Monday, and we going to be half a billionaires.

1:13:08James Harrison:And we out this mother... We out. And make sure y 'all like, make sure y 'all subscribe, or I'm going to have my good man Deebo put hands and feet on you. yeah like I'm a dude you looking hey just close his eye because I know you blinding it let him live Debo let him live no no he spit on me I'm going to show him something he talked too much you know what you right you right I'm out of the way let me stop go ahead go crazy Debo let me stop I was tripping I was tripping you know what hey I want to thank my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for being here for me and actually coming and showing me that I was tripping Hey, I would never, I would never, I would like to say I would never do that.

1:13:55But if I was in that situation and he did that, I don't know if I could control myself. But I'm working on, I'm building my relationship with my Lord and Savior, man. The more I talk and spend time with him, man, the better things get and the better I feel, man. So listen, man, God bless all y 'all, man. Y 'all have a beautiful day. Chad, you have a beautiful day. Brother, love you. We out.

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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles beating Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys 24-20. Jalen Carter being ejected for spitting on Dak, and much more as they preview Week 1 of the NFL season!

Timecodes:

00:00 - Jalen Carter spits on Dak Prescott

07:43 - Eagles beat Cowboys

17:03 - Eagles made trade offer for Micah Parsons

18:23 - Micah Parsons digs at former Cowboys teammates?

23:45 - Stefon Diggs apologizes to Boston media

27:25 - NFL heading for 18-game season?

39:14 - Rookie demanded $1mil for Davante Adams jersey number

44:27 - Ryan Clark's WILD Tom Brady take

46:28 - Amari Cooper to retire from NFL

55:06 - Mike Tyson vs. Floyd Mayweather 

57:11 - Ocho calls out Deebo again!

59:01 - Powerball jumps to $1.7Bil

 

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