Deebo & Joe - REACTION to MNF: Seahawks-Texans & Bucs-Lions + Dolphins DUMPSTER FIRE

23:41You've been spotty at best on trying to stop them. They score another touchdown. It's 12-27, dude. Yep. I don't – Houston – Like, again, that's – for Houston, That number was actually kind of good, depending on, you know, how you look at the way they were playing. Yeah, no, for sure.

24:01James Harrison:They feel like they're still in it. It could have been way uglier than that. Yeah, and Seattle went out and helped them out. They fumbled the ball. Houston recovers it. That's, you know, early in the fourth quarter. But that's what I'm saying, too. It wasn't even that he just accidentally fumbled it. They ripping at the ball. They was going out on the field. You got to hold it. You got to hold it. Hell, they don't get nothing from it, but then go and throw an interception. Yes, man. Give it right back to him again. He threw the ball away. And then to Seattle. So he threw the ball away. Then they get the ball back.

24:38James Harrison:And then Stingley gets a pit. And then they went crazy on the sideline. They got a little shuffling. You see the ref come and cover him up, making sure he's safe. Yeah. I got you. I got you, bro. I got you. I got you. Don't look. Introducing Taco Bell's new jalapeno citrus salsa with bright citrus, real red jalapenos, guajillo chiles. Usually, you add sauce to the food, but when the sauce is this good, the food is just there to get the sauce to your mouth. That rolled quesadilla, not a rolled quesadilla anymore. Now it's a sauce shovel. Taco Bell's jalapeno citrus salsa. Get it with any item on the Cantina Chicken Menu while it's here.

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28:09then Houston gets that unnecessary roughness, dude, on that third down. And basically that gives them the first day able to do what they need to do game over. Milk the clock. Yeah, yeah, dude. Houston, dude, they got an offense problem, dude. They can't run the ball at all. Not consistently on anything. They're not protecting the quarterback. They couldn't at least do anything. I think they sacked him, what, three times and hit him another eight, eight, seven, eight, nine times, something like that. You know, and then when they get down in the red zone, dude, they got to score a touchdown. They can't keep kicking field goals.

28:51James Harrison:I'm going to say it was a big time for me. It was a lot of offensive line. You know, just a lot, just a certain place, they're getting no push and he's not getting too much protection. I think they got to do better on the offensive line side because those third and ones, those third and ones, I mean, those third and ones, those fourth and ones. Yeah, that fourth and one in the third quarter where they didn't get nothing. And then, you know, Seattle goes and gets a touchdown from it. Dude, that's a hell of a point swing right there. Along with, you know, penalties. Penalties hurt them too. That kept drives going, stop drives, all that stuff.

29:26but Houston's defense, dude, you know, they're balling, but, you know, like again, the big play at the end, you know, it magnifies when you're towards the end, but the defense is nowhere near a fault for this. It's the offense. They got to get something done, you know. Seattle, of course, came out early and jumped on them, but, you know, they were able to hold that, you know, to what they needed to as far as coming into halftime, you know.

29:54James Harrison:halftime down by his with all of that with all that happening yeah and you know the fourth downs when you're going for on fourth downs they went 0 for 3 Houston went 0 for 3 on fourth downs like those are bad turnovers yes that's like yes the pressure on the quarterback the sacks the hits you know that's just that that's not that's not conducive to you know winning games especially you know when you're you're playing against a team that could put points on the board like they did. And I do JSN, Jack and Smith and Jigba every time they needed to play, throw it to him, Sam Darnold. I think sometimes people would overthink.

30:35James Harrison:And if you got one-on-one, you got man to man and you like your guy over there, guy look off and throw it to him. You know what I'm saying? Like sometimes it's just that easy to go against your matchups. And sometimes Sam Darnold was doing that. And then they were using like a good job running the ball too. So shout out to the Seahawks. That was a good game. Texans definitely got to do some shoring up on that line in that run game and protect the season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, that was Monday night. That was how Monday night went, Debo. So, so, so. But I want to talk about something else.

31:12Hold on, hold on. I want to talk about something else from Monday night. So, as I was watching the game, I started petting my dog. And my dog started talking to me. And he said, hi. And I said, hey, how you doing? And he said, I'm doing fine. And I said, I'm doing fine.

31:33James Harrison:No, see, no, Debo, Debo, Debo. You're wasting time. No, Debo, Debo, don't even do this right now. You're wasting time. Who? Brown, you. You talking about some whole other stuff that we don't even need to talk about. We got to talk about the Sunday games because we missed Monday. You knocked out the Wi-Fi in the whole system. so we weren't able to talk about the Sunday football games. So that's what we're about to do right now. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I just got a call from Jeff Bezos. I think the internet about to go down again. Devo, stop being foggy. Do you know what time it is? I think the Browns beat the Dolphins.

32:10The Dolphins. Yes. Let's go there. 31 to 6. I guess I got to go ahead Joe how to how to go so this is what I'm saying I ain't see the game so

32:23James Harrison:the weather the weather was terrible the weather was terrible for both teams but Miami is not used to that and it was cold I don't want to hear Miami you're professionals you're in the NFL it was cold outside it was raining grow up and a lot of these dudes don't live in Miami all the time they played in different places they better be able to know how to play in the wet in the water in the snow, in the elements? What are we talking about here? He's doing maybe$40 million,$50 million,$60 million a year. You better be able to play and rain, sleep, snow, or shine. So it doesn't matter. They're a Florida-based team.

32:55James Harrison:They're not used to that, but go ahead. Oh, gosh. Oh, gosh. Okay. Cry me a river. So long story short, Browns beat the Dolphins 31-0. How'd it go? They won. How? You want to know how they won? Let me break down. I didn't watch the game. I'm trying to, I want to hear it. I'm going to tell you exactly how they went. I didn't think it was worth watching two, one, and five teams, but go ahead. This is the thing. So, the weather was bad. So, it's not even really a statistical game. Right. So, it's in favor of the Browns because Miami. Go ahead. You just need to make sure. These are the games when you go in.

33:29James Harrison:If you leave the stadium with the win, that's all that matters. Like, you got to go out there with a win. The elements, the weather, you can't really throw the ball as much. So, look, my man, Tua, 12 for 23. three picks a hundred yards passing okay that's Tua like what are you talking about like that's what our defense did to Tua we had three interceptions Tyson Campbell a pick six welcome to the squad we had Tua got benched bro go ahead then Tua got benched he was supposed to get benched he had a long day out there messing with the Browns hold on man I need to get Miami listen dude go ahead Miami was fumbling the ball They gave y 'all the ball.

34:14Okay? Hold on. Like, what are we talking about? The Browns only scored a field goal on the first, what, time they scored because Miami got a roughing the passer penalty. Like, come on. Miami was helping y 'all. And then I didn't watch the game. I'm just hearing this stuff. That's how bad it was. I heard they called a fake P.I. on my guy, Minka. that took away an interception. Like, the next play, I believe they went on hitting.

34:48James Harrison:Yeah, he ran a 48-yard touchdown right after that. I didn't say that that play was a little janky. I didn't think they're making it. Miami discombobulated, man. They was discombobulated. Miami had 11 penalties. They were hurting themselves. They did 11 penalties for 103 yards. Thank you. Miami was hurting themselves. Cleveland Browns offense, we had Junkins. He ran for 86 yards and three touchdowns. But I'm telling you, this is what it was. The defense balled out. The defense balled out. And special teams sold out. And special teams. They keep all the ball. And special teams. Right there. First drive Browns, punt.

35:24James Harrison:First drive Dolphins, punt. Second drive Browns. We ended up getting down there, Junkins, getting it done. We get three. We go up three. No, you get three because of a ref in the past. I don't even want to hear that. We get down there, we get three. Go ahead. I didn't watch, but go ahead. All right. Yeah, you must have. So then, I'm saying, too, the good thing, the thing was that we only, the Browns offense, we only had 206 total yards. The Dolphins had 219 total yards. We only had 102. Right, they should have beat y 'all. No, no, no, not because of that. It's called three turnovers on, three interceptions and one.

36:00James Harrison:They're helping y 'all. And a fumble. It's bad weather. They can't, they're cold. So why didn't we turn the ball over? Anything below 60 degrees, they cold. Weren't we playing in the same stadium? In trash situations. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Don't want to hear it. So they didn't get y 'all a hole. A-chan gets the ball, runs it all the way down. Tyson Campbell again. I love him. He's probably going to be my defensive MVP because it's effort. He ran down A-chan when he tried to score on their drive, whatever. Stops them. We get a stop. They end up getting three. Boom. Next drive. We get some.

36:37James Harrison:This is my other thing. The fake P.I., like you said, and then Juckins gets to 45 yards. Yes. Thank you. It was a fake P.I. That's when we go up 10-3. Mm-hmm. That's when we go up 10-3. Okay. That shouldn't happen, but go ahead. It did happen. Okay? Then, soon after that 10-3, we kick the ball off. The kickoff returner sold it. The L.P. comes down there and makes a play. Makes him cough the ball up. How about you protect the ball? We also had kickoff returns, but we didn't fumble it. That's on Miami. So, boom. Fumble the ball. Give it back to the Browns. Correct? Correct. Browns get the ball again.

37:10James Harrison:Go down. Wildcat. Wildcat. So we give the ball to Junkins. Like, man, you know what? Bump it. You just take it straight from the center. Uh, get it. Tutty. Now we're up 17-3. Miami gets the ball again. And what they do. Punch. Yeah, damn right. Then the Browns get the ball back. We punt. Miami gets the ball. Miami gets the ball back. I could have swore I seen a 6-17 halftime score. I mean, about. I'm about to tell you. We punt, and then Miami gets the ball back. Heard about it. Tyson Campbell. Look, this one they try to score. This is Tyson Campbell again. They try to dry the ball down. He gets a breakup in the end zone.

37:48James Harrison:Like a lovely. And they end up getting the field goal. Go into halftime, 17-6. Fresh out of halftime. 17-6. Miami gets the ball. What does Tua do? Say here. Here we go. I mean, I heard he threw interceptions. Here we go. Tip off the hands. My man Tyson Campbell, again, pick six, coming off the first play out of halftime. So now we're up 24-6. And this is why, like, it doesn't matter how you do it. The offensive didn't even have to come back on the field, and we're up 24-6. We were 17-6. Tua was your best player. Is that my bad? Is that my fault that he's the quarterback for the Miami Dolphins, that they brought into that stadium to start for that team and try to leave with a victory?

38:35James Harrison:No, it's not. So he threw the ball to us. And my man took it to the crib. Boom. Then they get the ball back. Think it's sweet. Miles Garrett, welcome to the show. Third and 11. Sit down, son. So this is when the defense is balling. My whole thing is good. Okay, okay. Yeah, sit down. Sit down, Miles. Y 'all got the best defense. Yeah, that is true. They get the ball. I ain't tripping. They get the ball again. Let me have my shine. I'm going to listen to my shine. Let me have my shine. Okay? because then they start driving it again. And on fourth and eight, they try to go for it on fourth down, throw a little slant, and guess who's in the hole?

39:13James Harrison:Delpit. And cracks that man. One yard short. Turn him on downs. Do y 'all feel silly? Yes, they do. Browns get the ball back again. We punt him. No, no, we don't. We don't. We don't. We get the ball. All right, it returns to the one. Oh, my goodness. No. Browns get the ball. We punt. Punt him down to the one-yard line. We didn't do nothing. Then Tua's in the end zone. Try and get it. Try and figure it out. It's a lot of pressure. Oh, my goodness. Everybody's here. I have to throw it. Boom. Rasheed Jenkins. Pick. Almost another pick six for points. The offense doesn't even have to go out there and do nothing.

39:49James Harrison:The defense is bringing it down to the one-yard line. Pick by Tua to the one. Hey, I ain't going to lie to you. Without y 'all defense, y 'all lucky y 'all defense is stellar good. That's like without my arms, I wouldn't be able to play basketball. What are we talking about here? Of course, you need the defense to be nice. You better have a defense. Who are you talking to? Who are you talking to? I'm talking to you, Debo. I'm talking to you now. You know why? Because you've been real disrespectful. You've been real disrespectful. Dude. Yeah. Yeah. So, no, but I say all of this to say, the Browns had a really good defensive effort and they were putting their offense in positions to win.

40:27James Harrison:The offense did not. No, no, no. Defense won the game. The offense ain't do nothing. Your boy had 216 yards. We had 26 yards total. Your boy Dylan had 216 yards. Yes. Tua was your best player, though, because the defense was cold. I ain't gonna lie. Defense nice. I ain't gonna lie. Defense nice. I'm gonna get defense credit. But 12 or 23, 400 yards, three picks, that's Tua. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look. How many of them picks was real hard to get to? I'm telling, I mean, look, okay. A couple, none of them. None of them. Was it real athletic plays to get to the ball? Was it anything like, oh, he went and he just made a, you know, he just made a hellified play and, you know.

41:15I mean, no, no, for real, no.

41:18James Harrison:Honestly, I think my man, the hardest one, the hardest one was the one that he caught. The center field safety was like this, give me this one, Tua. Come on, Tua, give it to me. And then he kind of. He gave it to him, too. He tried to look him off. and threw the team. He tried to look him off. He didn't try to look him off. He didn't try to look him off. He didn't try to look him off. You trying. You see, Joe, that's what I'm saying, man. Listen, man, I'm just saying, I'm going to give the defense the credit. I'm going to give the defense the credit because you got to do it. You got to make plays because it's been situations where I see the Steelers, they done got balls in their hands.

41:50They don't catch them. I understand that. They drop four. They drop four. Straight to them. I understand that. So, you know. Got to catch them. But when you got a head coach like, you know, Daniels, that says, you know, he can – it is – I don't – I mean, when you look at it, you got to listen to this guy's interviews. Like, it's – what did he say after the game?

42:16James Harrison:He said a whole lot of nothing, Debo. Here we go. there's a lot of guys that will have an important work week because we're not, because if you are negatively affecting the football team, retooling, I don't have a choice, but, but, you know, to assess the different player and I have to coach a lot better as well. And yeah, we're going to find out like who and what we're made of. like um yeah yeah yeah they need hard knocks in his meeting rooms they need to go to hard and hard knocks you got to go in miami if he's still there y 'all got to be in miami this will be y 'all highest rated hard knocks ever promise you thousand percent when this dude talks i get confused i start feeling like i done lost where i'm at what's going on he starts a sentence He doesn't finish it.

43:18And then how you go from a, uh, to we're going to do. And you didn't say nothing. Yeah. That is who is the head coach for the Miami Dolphins. Yeah. That, that, that's crazy to me.

43:33James Harrison:That's crazy to me. Now you, like Tua said, you got players that don't even go to players meetings. Don't show up or not, or aren't there on time and even don't show up. So you got no leadership anywhere. The coaches, the players, it's disrespectful everywhere. We got to clean out everybody. The coaches got to go. The players got to go. And you just said that you sat him down because you got to see what other players can do. So are you saying it's over with for him? Like, what's? I think he still said this, too. I think he's still starting him this week coming up. Huh? How you going to evaluate other players?

44:12See? And then you do this. and y 'all happy about beating them. Y 'all real happy about beating them. Debo, you know, I'm happy when the Browns win.

44:26James Harrison:I talked about the way it happened and how it happened. I'm not saying that that was an offensive performance for the ages. I'm saying when you come out there and it's a rainy, wet day and that team doesn't do well and you just, you're making those plays. You're making those picks. You're making those turnovers. You're punching out that ball. Junkins is running it through the end zone they're getting in positions I didn't say one thing about how good the offense did besides Junkins running the ball well because he had three touchdowns and when we needed him he did what he had to do you know you got your fans they calling for Stefanski to be fired saying that you know the problem is him rather than the Browns quarterbacks they said shit Deshaun Washington he even liked a video talking about Stefanski on TikTok.

45:18Like, Joe. Man, so I think that You got a problem with Deshaun doing this? Like in the video, they're saying, they're talking trash on Stefanski. While

45:35James Harrison:you're not playing with the team, I think I wouldn't want anything that's a distraction. I think it's a distraction. and I don't like for anything to be a distraction for him to be doing it, especially when you're not playing right now, especially when you're still making it. Is he healthy enough to play or is they just – No, no, no, no, no. When you're not on the – even if you're not healthy enough to play, that means just – that's even more reason to just stay out the way because you're not going to be able to do – Oh, I was just asking personally. No, no, no. I don't think he's healthy enough to play yet.

46:00James Harrison:I think he's getting close to where he's going to be able to get out there and start throwing the ball again. But I don't think – when you're not actively on the team, And even if you are, this is just more things for, this is just more clickbait, more people to talk about stuff and more reasons for, like, even for you to be brought up. If it was me, I'm Deshaun Watson. I'm making$230 million. I'm still making$40 million a year. And I haven't been as productive as I would want to as my contract heals. I would just be trying to stay out the way, getting ready, getting right, and trying to get back out there.

46:34James Harrison:Talking about the culture and liking tweets and stuff, that's just going to bring, end of the day. If you don't like him and this is just something that you've been wanting to say for a while, I mean, it is what it is. Now, social media, man, everybody's shooting at him. You think that he was the reason why he didn't help you out in getting you better during your time in Cleveland? Go ahead, man. Say what you got to say because nobody's – I'm not in your position. That wasn't me. I wasn't there. And if you think that he should be out of there and he definitely didn't help in your growth, for sure, that's not my space to say because I don't know.

47:07James Harrison:But he does. but just knowing that what's it going to bring to your team? What's it going to bring? Questions on the coach. And if he does want him to get out there, if he doesn't want him to get fired, that's the perfect way to do it. Boom. Yeah, like that. You know what I'm saying? Everybody is already trans-going. I'm not a big fancy fan. I don't think the offense has been doing what it needs to do. I think there can be a new voice. And I don't think he has the power to just be bringing it. I don't think he's playing with kind of who he can play with. I don't think he has the control to move all the pieces.

47:33James Harrison:And I don't want to say in, I think, Andrew Barry and Mr. Haslam. Andrew Barry and Haslam are definitely, I think, over top of what his control is. I don't think he has control of his players or who he brings in or who he takes out. I definitely don't. Well, according to ESPN Pittsburgh, they said it's two different sources that say Shador Sanders will play for the Pittsburgh. I'm sorry, will play for the Browns. Okay. One said Shador will start the last four games of the season no matter what. The last four games are against Bears, Bills, Steelers, and the Bengals. What do you think of this? The other source said that Shador may take over sooner than that.

48:22You think this is real? You think it's a possibility? Is it something that you would want to see? Do you think Dylan needs to be switched out and then give a chance to Shador?

48:34James Harrison:This is what I'm saying. I think Dylan hasn't been, and this is just my honest opinion. I don't think Dylan has done enough to, like, he's not helping. He's not hurting the team, but he's not helping the team. There's a difference between game management, game changers, a superstar, all that, like a franchise quarterback. He's not giving me franchise quarterback vibes, and that's just how I feel about it. He's able to go. He went 13 for 18, 116 yards, zero interceptions, zero picks. That's another zero picks, zero interceptions. You're not hurting me, but you're not helping me. So I don't know how big, how high a ceiling is.

49:10James Harrison:So at the end of the day, he's going to get a couple more games, in my opinion. I would still give him because he didn't lose. He won the game. He didn't do anything bad. Like he didn't turn the ball over. They hit the Juggins. So to control the game, you want to get out that with a win. The defense played well. The special teams played well. We won 31 to 6. When Kohler, the global design leader in luxurious kitchen and bath products, came to me and said, Martha, we need an ambassador for our timeless, elegant, durable cast iron products. I said, I'm in. Now let me see the factory. Weeks later, I was suited up in coveralls and work boots, walking through their Kohler, Wisconsin, cast iron foundry.

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52:46James Harrison:Not like you didn't hurt us, you didn't help us. So we're not going to just pull you out of the game. You know what I'm saying? So I just think we should continue to give him another, like I would say another two, three, four games, two, two, two, three games. If he starts doing better, we can start winning. He just, I'm not, I'm not mad at him because you don't want to just be like, no, this isn't good enough. I don't say you're not a superstar. You're not a franchise quarterback. Go to the bench. I think that you can have, see what he can do. Give him a couple more times. Just open up the playbook.

53:15James Harrison:Let's see Gilbert. I mean, tell him Dylan Gabriel, like, let's see what we can do. Like, let it rip. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's see if, again, I understand you're being comfortable. They tried to let it rip. They gave him 50-something passes against the Steelers. But he's through 30, but like 57 passes, but like probably seven, but 10 of them that passed 10 yards. He's dicking and dunking. He's dumping the ball. Well, that's what he got to take. Man, I'm not hearing none of that. I'm liking if you got an outside and there's a man to man, if we do have a single box and this man to man, throw the fade.

53:44So say he goes and they don't win, but he's not the reason they're losing. but he's also not the reason they're winning. Do you give Shador that chance? Do you think Shador gives more of a issue to a defense than he would?

54:00James Harrison:I do. Why is that? I do. I think he's going to – because he's going to give us a better – he's going to throw the ball down the field. I think he's going to give us a chance, like anticipating, throwing dig balls, throwing posts on time, throwing fade balls. If he sees that it's man-to-man, giving his receiver a chance. I like Dylan, and then I just don't think he's giving our receivers a chance as much. You keep dumping the ball down, down, but like, let's throw some things. Let's throw some posts. And some of the things, I see him open. When he does that play action, you come up, and you just patented a little bit too long because you don't want to throw an interception.

54:34James Harrison:So you just, you know what I'm saying, check it down. Instead of, there's an opportunity open, throw it. Nah, I don't know. Boom. You know what I'm saying? I want to be able to be like, no, bump that. There is that opportunity. Let me throw that because I know I can make a play. and help the team out instead of like, all right, let me just be cautious. Let me be controlled. Let me not fuck it up. No. Sometimes I need you to let that thing go. Yeah. I believe that if he doesn't start to do things that actually help them win instead of not doing things that, you know, help them lose, I think you have to, you have to, and you're not winning.

55:12You have to give Shador a chance to go out there and see what he can do with all the weapons, all the starters, and give him that opportunity.

55:24James Harrison:I would say so, because I think Dylan gets his just due. We're giving him as many. He got his first start out there in Minnesota. Then he got another one. And I think, what's his third start? His third start, he has a win. so I'm not like knocking what he's doing but I'm like I'm not seeing anything that's like you're taking us somewhere you know I'm saying that's not in a bad way but like I want when you look at the quarterbacks like franchise guys like all right bet like I want the ball in his hands he's going to be able to gain like he's going to be able to make a play for us you know what I'm saying so I just want him to maybe he has it in him but just kind of like let it rip sometimes like instead of doing those jump offs when you see it you know I'm saying anticipation throw in the ball.

56:04James Harrison:Like, get it out. Yeah. I think it's a lot of people that want to see, you know, either Dylan do better or a chance for Shador to go out there and show what he could do. Speaking of that, Isaiah Rogers had a bad day on football field Sunday, but he got some messages, bro. Like, these people tripping, dude. It's nothing deserves for a dude to get some messages. Like, can we even show these messages? Like, can we even show these words on the screen?

56:47Yeah. So, it's some stuff in there, you know, F this, F that. I'm trying to slow down on my cussing a little bit. Yeah, no, for sure.

56:56James Harrison:Me too. My mom called me. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, you stuck. you know word word that starts with the letter n but it's it's not nigga it's the hard er you know what i'm saying um called a man worse worse than hitler like come on like that deserves nothing and then he wanted to try and backpedal after he realized he snapped it and and and sent it over and now you want to talk about you sorry. I know it was wrong. Nah. Nah. We can't do all that. You ever got anything? I can tell you right now, bro. How you feel about that, Deebo? No, bro. I got stuff like that when I went to New England. Bro. Inbox crazy.

57:51In this. In that. Blah, blah, blah. Whoop, whoop, whoop. your mama, your daddy, your grandmama. This is supposed to be from Steelers fans, right? You know what I'm saying? And that's the problem with fans. Fans are loyal to an actual organization. You know what I'm saying? They're not loyal to the player. And they don't realize that this is a business. And then people just get out of bounds. Like you out of bounds with just stepping sideways. That's not something you would say to his face, dude. Not even close. And I know it. And when you go and you do things like this and you snap that, they had one time where some dude said something about me and it was something like Tom Brady, like this and that, you doing this and that.

58:37And he was saying, so I screenshot and I posted it up. Oh, he had to shut his page down and all that. Like, when you people do this, like, listen, when you people do this, like, some people actually take time to find out, like, who you are, if your page is real and all that, and save this in their files. Like, I'm one of them people. Like, y 'all got, you know, dummy pages. Everybody else got dummy pages, too. They go look at your page and figure out if you're a real person. Screenshot already, snapshot saved to make sure you're real. and then put it out there so that you can stand on what you're talking about.

59:17You know what I'm saying? Like, this is not hard to get the evidence on you and put it out there and all that stuff. So when you say something, same thing I tell my kids, like, yo, if you go say something or you go tweet something, you go write something out. When you write that out and put it out there, make sure that it's something that you're okay with the whole world knowing, seeing, and reacting to. Like, you got to put these fans, all these people that want to be in your inbox and start doing goofy stuff like that. Of course, you got to make sure the page is real. You can't just put it out there because I get a whole bunch of them from little dummy pages, you know, all that stuff.

59:56But this ain't cool is no part of this that should be in our society, period. Especially, you know, especially the racist part of it. But we understand, like, you suck and all the other stuff. I can take that. That's just criticism. You know what I'm saying? A fan, you know, trader, you know, you're a trader to... No, I'm not. I'm an employee that no longer... They no longer wanted my services. So I went to somewhere else where they wanted my services. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is business. These are coming... Channel 2 don't want you and Channel 4 do. You go to Channel 4. You don't hear Channel 2 talking about you a trader.

1:00:41No. Mm-hmm. What's your take on this, man? What's your advice that you would give Rodgers?

1:00:49James Harrison:My advice is, well, I had a lot of the same stuff, like you said, Debo. When we played for the Browns and people would just talk crazy when you would lose. I would say sometimes you don't want to let people, like, some of the stuff when people say, it's easy to ignore it. You don't want people to, like, rock with your emotions at the end of the day because at the end of the day, these people are on Instagram, Twitter. They're watching you play a sport in a game that we love. When I first got into it, I would get my feelings and people would talk, you know what I'm saying, about you. Because you're trying to do a good job.

1:01:21James Harrison:You're not used to people really talking about you like that. I would say ignore them. And then at the same time, like these dudes are like a lot of them just want your attention. Because the same way when you would snap back and do like, oh my God, I can't believe it's you. Like you really wrote back to me. I'm like, hey, you had me really in my feelings. Like really mad. You know what I'm saying? And you just was just talking because like the access that they're able to have to professional athletes. I don't think sometimes you could. It's good because you can give them an insight and like let them know you're a real person.

1:01:51James Harrison:But at the same time, they feel like they can touch you, like they can make you feel some type of way. So I'm like, don't not literally touch you, but like you can read up. You're going to see what they're saying. So with that, you don't want to give them a lot of it is like, you know, what's up, you know, what's going on. So sometimes with me, I wouldn't even really look at the stuff because it's like, if they tell you good things, is that making you happy? No. Like letting people control, you know what I'm saying? Like how your mood is because of what people are saying on your stuff. So I kind of just want some like, I don't know these people.

1:02:21James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? So I just kind of really didn't let it, tried to not let it hit me as much. Yeah, I don't, I like to look at it because I need the negative stuff. That's how I'm overrated. I'm overrated. I want to see all the negative stuff. but when you step over that you step over that boundary you know what I'm saying of a personal like racial insult of real hate you burning my jersey and all that go ahead burn it because you ended up probably buying another one when I came back in 14 anyway I mean when I came back after after you know they do the jersey sale anyway so I ain't tripping you went and got another one who cares but like Like I said, 13, 13 when I went to Cincinnati, you know, but when I went to New England, dude, they lost their mind.

1:03:13And that's something else I'm telling dudes like don't even get this dude a response. Like he's trying to get a response from you, bro. Like that's what he wants to be able to know that the message that he sent got to you and you was mad enough to respond back. And I'm like, yo, you can't respond back to this because if you respond back and you shoot at him and you say something crazy, he's going to repost what you said to him. you're going to get fined and nothing's going to happen to him. Don't even give him it. Who cares? Use that as motivation, fuel for your fire.

1:03:44James Harrison:I feel no, because you know how that is, but like you said too, people be weirdos. People would just be straight weirdos, writing mean things to people just trying to get a reaction. Right. You're trying to get a reaction. You're trying to be seen. You want to be heard. That's why everybody got social media. Everybody want to be heard. You know? So Sunday, we about to play the Packers, bro, right? Ooh, A-Rod. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure, for sure, for sure. But, hey, we, we again, okay? We, we. Yeah, come on. But Sunday's game between the Packers and Steelers isn't about Aaron Rodgers.

1:04:22Matt LaFueur said, he said, we're playing the Pittsburgh Steelers, who happen to have Aaron Rodgers. It's as simple as that. That is for you guys to talk about. Granted, I mean, we've got a lot of love and respect for Aaron, what he's done here. I mean, he's a Hall of Famer, and I know, like our past together, we had a lot of great moments, but this game is not about that. What you put on that, Joe? Joe, what you think he's just giving lip service? you think he's just saying the right thing, reverse psychology, you know?

1:05:11James Harrison:Yeah, man. I think he's just being a smart – like, just a good coach, you know, not trying to make anything extra over what it is. He knows him and Aaron – they had a relationship. He just don't want to bring anything up extra. I think Aaron Rodgers – just personally, though, he definitely wants to be Aaron Rodgers. He definitely thinks that he wants to make sure, like, they made the right decision. it is like that you could still have Aaron Rodgers and you don't. He's going against you. So it's kind of like. So what do you think the bigger statement win would be? Like Aaron Rodgers taking down his former team or Jordan Love outplaying the old man?

1:05:47James Harrison:See, that's what I'm saying. I think A-Rod, the better one would be for us, for us still, for we, it's going to be A-Rod outplayed. The A-Rod outplayed Jordan Love. Packers made the wrong decision. Moving on. That's what would be the bigger joint. I think I don't care about him outplaying him. He could outplay him and we could still lose. Aaron winning and taking down his former team is the biggest statement to me. Like, yeah, I don't. if Aaron go out there and do four, you know, four, five touchdowns, 400 yards, whatever it may be, and the defense don't do nothing and we lose that game, like, don't know, at least me personally, I don't care how big my numbers is if we lose the game.

1:06:44They wasn't big enough for me. You know what I'm saying?

1:06:47James Harrison:So I asked you, so you wouldn't be mad if he did a 13 for 18, 116 yards. Zero touchdowns and interceptions. And you win. Yes. I ain't mad. Listen, hey. Debo, Debo. We're not going to apologize for winning. Debo, that's what we're not going to do. We're not going to apologize for winning. Hey, the Browns didn't from beating Miami, so what we look like? Debo used to. What we're not going to do, Debo, is apologize for winning.

1:07:24What we're not going to do is apologize for winning. And an A.

1:07:29James Harrison:A, bro. A. Oh, man. Okay, no, for sure. I'm with you. Debo, I am with you 100%. No question. The bigger thing is with the Steelers, we know he could throw for four-charts. We know he could throw. He's not going. He's Aaron Rodgers. But what we want to do is leave the stadium with a dub. So I'm 1 ,000 % with you on that. What the biggest statement is the Steelers beat the Packers. Aaron Rodgers taking down his former squad. Yeah, speaking of former squad, Justin Fields got benched over there in New York, man. They just gave him a two-year,$40 million deal,$30 guaranteed. And it looks like they only needed six and a half games to realize he ain't the answer.

1:08:10Is it time? Do you think it's time for them to give up? Get it moving? It looks like they done did it, Lyle. They done sat him down.

1:08:20James Harrison:All I know is Justin Fields, when I watched that last game they just had in London, that was one of the worst offensive performances I've seen in a long time. And I know he's an athlete. I love Justin Fields as a person, but I don't know what's going on. Their offense probably had less than 100 yards. Like, it just doesn't look good. He's not throwing the ball on time. He's making – it's taking him a while to make some decisions. and they're just not looking good. You can't keep doing the same thing. That defense deserves to win a couple of these games. Their defense has been playing great. You know what I'm saying?

1:08:55James Harrison:It's not their fault. You need something from your offense, and Justin Fields hasn't been able to do it. I mean any harm to say it, but when you're just watching the tape, I like him as a person, like him as all that, but he's not getting the job done. And this is a what have you done for me lately business, and he hasn't done anything for them lately. So I don't think that he's the answer. And I'm talking away with 30 no matter what. He going to get that. But at the same time, like, you're going to keep on, you're going to lose on the shield of you paid them 30, so we're going to go ahead and just walk it down?

1:09:27James Harrison:Or are you going to try to figure out something else? Because, you know, 30 is 30, but we got other teams. The Brownies got 131 still left that they're trying to figure out. So it can be done. It can be done. You can move on. It's going to hurt. you're going to have to bite that pill, that 30 M's. But if you're really trying to win, right now it doesn't look like Fields is doing it on the offensive side. And it pains me to say that. Yeah, I think this might be it. They're going to go ahead and they'll keep him because they've got the guaranteed money in him. And they're going to try and get that.

1:10:00I mean, right now they're fighting for a first pick anyway. So they've got an opportunity to go out there and hopefully try and find somebody that they see a little bit more potential in. Jumping back to Sunday, the Rams, dude, they flew in to the international game the day before and immediately headed back out. And they went ahead and whooped them boys 35 to 7. It worked out. What do you. So here's my take on this. So I don't like going in early to a game, especially when you got like an international game or something like this. What it turns into is you have four or five days there. So now you got all your family, your friends, you got all this extra stuff going on here and there.

1:10:50And they thinking they on vacation. This is ain't this ain't a vacation. I'm here to work. I'm here to get a job done. But they're like vacation. So they're planning to do this, do that, all this other stuff, distracting the guys from doing this and that. Not to mention like the staff. So now you got all these families over here. Now, now, now the staff that usually helps you is now trying to help the families and all that, along with their other responsibilities and duties. I like the idea of going in and out, getting the job done and going home. I think that's the best way to do it, me personally, because now I don't add all those other factors into it where it turned into a mini vacation for everybody else.

1:11:34And now you're being the person to have to drag along and do all this other stuff along with practice. And the focus is not the focus, which is winning a game. What do you think? You think this could be the next wave since they just seen the Rams do it and do it conventionally?

1:11:51James Harrison:Debo, I'm with you 1 ,000%. My thing is, on those games, on those business trips, when we're going to London, we're not going to see London. I don't care. I can go during the offseason. We can go take a trip to that hotel. We can go literally have a good time. These trips are business trips. I'm really trying to get there, get my body right, watch tape. when I get there for long periods of time, I start getting nervous and like antsy because it's like, we're here to do a job. The game is in four days. There's nothing I'm going to be able to do. Like I'm going to get practice. We're going to have my schedule right.

1:12:23James Harrison:The family and friends want a trip. We're overseas. Like we're about to go see the Louvre. We're about to go see all the stuff that they got to offer. I'm good on that. We can go there during the off season and we can go see everything you want to see. But these four days, like that, and that's crazy. Getting there to date before. I don't even need to have to worry about bringing you here if I'm in and out in, you know, a 36 hour time frame. Like, yo, in and out. There's no discussion on, hey, let's do this. No, it's not. I'm going to work. I'm going to be right back. Yes, I'm going to be right back, dude.

1:12:56Like, I'm going to work. Hey, man, we got a few other things you want to catch up on if you want to stick here since we missed yesterday. You good? See, yep. Yeah, you know, I tried to – I didn't try. I'm sorry. Jeff Bezos did that. Messed us up. That was all you, brother. That wasn't me, bro. I'm trying to tell you. Listen.

1:13:18James Harrison:But you let me get my Browns talk in, so I appreciate it. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. Like I said, y 'all got a good defense over there, man. Y 'all got a good defense over there. And if it wasn't for y 'all defense, y 'all would be 0-7 instead of, what is it, 2-5. Yeah. Like, if it wasn't for y 'all defense. That is a filthy foul. That is a filthy foul. Hey, Joe. Yo. Somebody got fired. Yes, he did. Who got fired, Joe? Man, Billy Napier, man. Coach for the Gators, man. Bought my dog out. 20 million they got to give my man 20 million and they got to give him 10 of it in the next 30 days yep yep yep hey man what Florida what Florida go do from here man where they go what's going down this is what I'm saying Florida we need a great great coach and you know who I'm thinking of who we need to go get who he's in the SEC where I'm not mad at it because I'm loving his recruiting style but first of all let me talk about our Interim coach.

1:14:27James Harrison:Interim coach that we have right now, Billy Gonzalez. He was my recruiting coordinator. He recruited me to come to Florida. He was our wide receiver coach there during the National Championship. Billy Gonzalez? Billy Gonzalez. Did he ever coach at Kent State? Did Billy G coach at Kent State? I don't know if he coached at Kent State. I don't think so. I think he coached receivers at Kent when I was up there. Hold up now. We got to check. Check it out. I only known Billy G when he was at Florida, though. He recruited me, came to my state championship game my senior year in Maryland at Baltimore Ravens Stadium.

1:14:57James Harrison:Great dude, great coach. So he's the interim coach right now. Loving him. He's a recruiting guy. That's what we need to get back to, too. He recruited me, and he's great at recruits. And that's why when we got rid of Napier, we moved him in so he can keep the recruits so everybody's good. Hey, can he recruit in this era? No, but that's why I'm bringing you to where he's here, but I'm telling you of the other, the head coach that I want. I want him to be this. It's probably like the offensive coordinator, maybe still receivers called offensive coordinator. But I want to. Hey, he was the wide receivers and running back dude for us at Kent from 2001.

1:15:34He was. That's crazy. That's Benny G.

1:15:36James Harrison:He was the receiver coach of Florida. Yeah, I knew I knew that name, man. I'm like, yo, he was on my staff when I played at Kent. See, so we got to go to a Gator game. Go see Coach G. We got to. Yeah, we go have to. Yeah, we check it out. For sure. Coach G. I love Coach G. I think he's going to be great. but I would want, with the way it's going now, I need Florida to get a real guy. And I'm going to throw it out in the bucket. I want us to get Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin? I think if we got Lane Kiffin, the energy he's bringing, the vibes he's bringing, and with the recruits, I think he, because the way he's doing Ole Miss, we can have Florida back on point.

1:16:14James Harrison:I think he would do it. I think he could do it. I'm going to just put that out there. That's who you want? That's who I want. I want Lane Kiffin. What about Billy G? If Billy G, I'm just saying, I'm with Lane Kiffin or Billy G. I'm not mad at him. I love Billy G as the head coach right now. Okay, but what if you get Lane Kiffin, but you lose Billy G? You say he's great for recruiting. I know. I think, well, this is what I'm saying. He was recruiting. That was back in the day, Debo. I mean, I know he probably still got some stuff that he knows, but I don't know. He recruited me back in, what was that, 07?

1:16:51James Harrison:Mm-hmm. Yeah. So the times have changed. So that's what I'm saying. If we could just get... I love Billy. Billy could do it. Billy's Billy... He was there during the golden years. He's seen what it was. What we needed with national championships at Florida. That's what I'm talking about. So he's been at Florida since you were there. He left. He left. He came back. He left and came back? He came back with Coach Dan Mullen. Okay. Yes. He came back with Mullen. Okay. All right. Who your player of the week, dude? Who you got for your defensive player of the week? Tyson Campbell. The new corner for the Browns with his pick six, his PBUs, his rundown of H-Han.

1:17:40James Harrison:H-Han about 4-3. He walked him down, prevented the touchdown. So we're going to go with him. He's fresh off the boat, right over there playing man-to-man, strapping, pick-sixing. Stand up. Stand up, Tyson Campbell. Stand up. Can you ask me who mine is? Well, then, Debo, who do you have? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Tyson got me hyped. Tyson got me hyped. Yeah, yeah. Who's your defensive player, Debo, of the week? I hate I got to do this. Got to get credit with credit, dude. Yes, you do. We got the same one, bro. Yes! You watch the game. Hey, we going to see what he do against them Patriots, though.

1:18:27James Harrison:We going to see. I'm here in New England now. Don't forget that. Yes, sir. We going to see. Hey, Tua? Man, I probably could have did that against Tua. Just put where I'm at right now, today, at 47 years old. I'm just saying alright we gonna see we gonna see nah I ain't never played I ain't never played DB in my life but the way that went I think I could have did but look here man we want to thank y 'all for joining us for this episode of D-Bo and Joe man we let Joe go ahead and get off his Browns stuff man hey big ups I ain't gonna lie I had a Browns fit on yesterday Browns defense he had a fit on yesterday you know what's so crazy I ended up accidentally wearing a like a chocolate brown shirt yesterday too because I thought it was black, but it wasn't.

1:19:17Oh, I see. But hey, please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. We'll be back here at it on Friday. Joe, what you got? My brother Debo, we will be back on Friday.

1:19:34James Harrison:I appreciate you. I appreciate you for giving the Browns a little bit of love. I appreciate that eye for the defensive player of the week that you have. and my good man. I will see you on Friday. We out.

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