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23:42James Harrison:easy is everybody to tackle. You know what I'm saying? Because if Derrick Henry's so easy to tackle, you know what I'm saying? That's just why I don't like putting under needed pressure on yourself. You're already out there. You're already in the spotlight. You're going to have to be out there in the situation regardless. You're putting a spotlight on you to be watched by now. Everyone analyzing, oh, you're saying it's easy to tackle, Henry? Oh, let me watch this. Let's see how easy it is for you. You know what I'm saying? Like when you don't need to do that. So that's the only reason. That's the only thing I'm saying.

24:07James Harrison:I'm like, Delpy, you did put that under needed pressure on yourself. You're right. When you're speaking, you don't want to give Bulletin more material. You can say that to your teammates, but saying that out to the media is basically saying like, man, it is what it is. I'm out here. You're wilding. No, that's less than saying. That's way more than saying it is. It is what it is. It's be like, yeah, you know. It's not easy. That would be, it is what it is. It's not hard at all. It's not hard. Hard. Well, how hard? What was the answer exactly? He said, how hard is it to tackle Derrick Henry? He said, not hard.

24:45James Harrison:Not hard. Yeah, he's wild. Yeah, he's wild. It's a hard tackle to make. It's Derrick Henry. He's about to be the leading rusher in NFL history. One of the leading rushers ever to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, man, maybe they just. We're going to be watching. We're going to be watching. Playing them Saturday. Oh, yeah, for sure. I think I might pull up. For sure. I think I might pull up. It's right up the street. I ain't going to even lie. I'm pulling up. I'm pulling up. You know I'm pulling up to the Steelers game already. Steelers Baltimore. I'm going to be there. It's right up the street. Yeah, for sure.

25:20For sure. Okay. Let's get over here to Detroit. So the one thing Ben Johnson became known for as offense coordinator in Detroit was trick plays. But Dan Campbell said trick plays are the least of his concerns. he's getting ready for Johnson's for Johnson's offense you know what you can't put Johnson's Johnson they can't say I might have to change that name you know what I'm saying he said he said I don't really care about trick plays just handle the meat and potatoes of the offense a defense what they think you're going to hang a defense what they think you're going to hang their hat on. Let's stop that first.

26:07Let's worry about that. Let's make sure we're all on point and we handle that stuff.

26:17Do you think the Bears got a shot at beating the Lions?

26:20James Harrison:I think everybody has a shot because any given Sunday is early in the season, but I'm not predicting it. I'm going, I think the Lions are going to get things going. I think what Dan Campbell is saying this stuff too, all the trick plays and stuff, If you have good eyes, if you have good discipline, you know what I'm saying, it's going to work itself out. If you start working and wondering about the random plays that they're going to run, that's when you start chasing ghosts. So as long as you got eye discipline, as long as you have your defensive script ready to go, I think what he's saying is working on the meat and potatoes, knowing exactly what their bases are, what their main things are going to do on third down in the red zone.

26:55James Harrison:Trick plays, as long as we have our eyes right, we'll work that out. So I think I don't. I think they have a shot because it's football and it's the NFL and they're all professionals. But I don't think that the Bears are going to be able to beat the Lions. I think the Lions are going to get their get that stuff going. I'm going to get the running game back going, get the defense going and really get back to being the Lions because it's early on in the season. I think that I believe in them way more than I believe in the Bears. I really want to know who asked the question about trick plays. Like, who cares about a trick play?

27:27If I'm dog walking on the trick play, I ain't going to help him no way. I'm 100 % with him. You worry about the meat and potatoes. Trick plays, you don't worry about the trick plays. Yes, you can say you saw something on camera or tape or whatever it may be and be aware of it, but me actually working on it, unless it's something that they're doing that is not normal. You're a team that runs at least 10, 15 plays, a wildcat, or you give some type of, you know, off formation that you don't normally see and y 'all do it, you know, through the course of games, then yes. But a trick play, we're going to work on a trick play that may or may not come out.

28:12And when it comes down to it, you actually got to be in a position to have that trick play work. So if the Bears play like they did last week, ain't no amount of trick plays going to be able to help them. That's what I'm saying. I ain't going to lie. I don't give the Bears a shot. That's just where I see that.

28:35James Harrison:I don't blame you, especially with the same way with their coach. Even answering that question is what a good coach is supposed to say, in my opinion. Like, no, we're going to do the right things. I discipline. That's going to handle. Basically what he's saying, that's going to handle the trick plays. us chasing ghosts is not going to make us a better football team. So I'm with Campbell. I'm with the Lions. I think they're going to beat the Bears. I think Caleb got talent, but it's just not. It's not. It's the organization. It's the ship. They got to get the ship right over there. I mean, what happened to the ship in the first quarter?

29:08The ship was going right. The second quarter, everything started going down.

29:13James Harrison:Man, the ship is a long game. You know what I'm saying? You know what it is, Debo. It's ebbs and flows. You got to be able to take punches, make punches, be able to like it's momentum shifts. You know what I'm saying? They ain't never get out of a state. You just get one shift and then you just go the rest of the way. You got to be able to, you know what I'm saying, settle the shift. You know what I'm saying? Be able to always be even keeled. You know what I'm saying? Don't get too high. Don't get too low. So I just don't think that they have. I mean, you just got to continue. I need more consistency in the play.

29:39I don't care about the high and low. The consistency of play will take care of, you know, all of that versus, you know, getting high and low. If I'm consistently playing well, I mean, I'm not going to have to worry about the rollercoaster. No, no, no, for sure.

29:54James Harrison:I'm saying, you say the first quarter, they were consistently playing good there, and then the second quarter, consistently bad. Third quarter, consistently bad. Fourth quarter, consistently bad. If you're just going to give me at least, give me a little, you know what I'm saying, something, a little consistency. They gave you a little glimpse, so you still holding on to them for a little bit? Oh, for sure. No, it's still early, man. It's still early. At least they got to get mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. We're not even, you know what I'm saying? Like, no, it's way too early to start hanging it up.

30:28Okay, I got you. I got you. Let's go over here. I guess C.D. Lamb said he couldn't sleep much over the weekend. The drops against the Eagles bothered him. He said, I would rather nobody else but myself be in those situations. I came up short once. We'll see the rest. He said, trust me, I've thought about it. I've dwelled on it. I've done everything that you could possibly imagine about this game. For those that feel like they feel worse about the game than me, you're absolutely wrong. CD said, yes, man, I'm going to tell you something right now. That's real talk. All these fans that be like, oh, my God, I just feel so I'm distraught.

31:16I'm this and that. These guys don't even care. No. No. Believe me. I am so, dude, listen, I am so happy. I do not have the ups and downs of winning and losing and being at work. Like, I felt like I was on a roller coaster at Cedar Point, dude. Like, the highs is high and the lows is low. Dude, when you lose a game, dude, on Sunday, dude, it messes up everything until – Yes. It messes up everything until you get to that Wednesday when you start getting ready for the next opponent, dude. My whole three days, dude, until we start – I'm just...

32:03James Harrison:Because anything is always so much better to figure out what you did wrong or whatever on a win than a loss. Once you lost, everything feels like that's the reason why we lost. This play, I would have did that better, that one missed tackle. I can't wait. As soon as we watch the film, I know exactly what play. I'm looking forward to the play. I already got the script. You know what it is. They show, oh man, I missed that tackle on play 13. Wait till we get to 13. Everybody looking. We in the meeting. You can't say you know you're wrong. And that's the part, too. When you want to be great like CD, he feels the worst because now he's in that meeting.

32:39James Harrison:He knows he's the man. He wants the ball in that situation. He knows he can make that catch. He wants to be the only one on the Cowboys to make that catch. And when he doesn't, he feels like shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, in his heart of heart, he wants that. You know what I'm saying? That's why I love him being able to say it because he means it. Because I would feel the same way. And I know you feel the same way. Losing that game, every single play, that whole week until Wednesday, when you start the next week of practice preparation for the next team, you feel like I let everybody down.

33:08James Harrison:Everybody's walking around. I let my boys down. I can't wait until next week when we win. And then the plays that I've messed up on, you know what I'm saying? That's my bad. That's me. I got to do better. But we still win the game. Everybody's chilling. This wasn't the reason why we lost. Now everybody's still walking around the facility. Hi, coach is good. Everybody high-fiving. you lose ain't nothing funny the fuck is you smiling about you know what I'm saying listen I ain't gonna lie to you I ain't gonna lie to you when I took a loss and it was payday I felt a little better I ain't gonna lie to you Debo that's real talk it make you feel better it make you feel better taking a loss and it ain't payday man I'm feeling trash She right there, buddy.

33:58You know what's so crazy, dude? I still go over like losses, like Super Bowl. That's what it is. Super Bowl. I'm like, you know what? I could have did this here. I know it wasn't my responsibility, but I was there. I could have did it. Damn, I missed that there. If I was paying attention, I could have probably picked that there. Or I could have punched the ball out here, dude. Yes. Anything. Dude, when we played Green Bay and we ended up losing to Green Bay in the Super Bowl, dude, I'm in my room and it's just running through my head. Like, I can't stop it. I can't stop it. And you know how they had the, you know, like the after party and all that, you know.

34:42Oh, I mean, you did. Man, we in a, you know, dudes and we in a hallway, man. We just looking at each other like mules chewing glue, man. and everybody's like, man, I could have did this. Maybe if I had did this. Oh, man, I missed that. Oh, if I did this. Just going through it, dude. Not a good feeling. And finally, dude, we were just like, yo, what we going to do, man? We going to sit here and cry sober. We going to cry drunk, man. Went on dialogue. Yo, I tell you, we're so glad they had no cameras, dude. Well, it's some pictures out there. just say we was on stage like a Lil Wayne concert no you know no shirt like it was yeah y 'all had to get it out y 'all had to get it out

35:28James Harrison:y 'all had to y 'all had to crazy you man making it I ain't gonna lie I seen I seen I seen cats cry man I'm like yeah I ain't about to let them see them tears on camera oh I was definitely that had definitely been me listen I got I got I got back to the hotel jumped in the shower and I was like I let the tears run down Can't nobody see me crying. Man, I would have been in there. I would have been telling her, I bet I love y 'all, man. You know what I'm saying? But next year, we got this, though. Right. And then that's the thing. You know, you got guys that are like, yo, this might be my last year, my last time here on this team.

36:03You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, contract up. You don't know if you're going to get... Like, every team is a new team. It's a different team that comes up, you know, each year. That's the crazy part about the league. Rather you keep... Yes. It's literally. Whether you keep your core or not, it's changed. It's a whole – the special teams, that stuff matters.

36:25James Harrison:As soon as that OTAs start and then the draft and then you had training camp, it's a bunch of just new dudes. You know normally it's the core, a couple of the guys that you had there that started with you, maybe some dudes on contracts and stuff. But every year it's a whole lot of new dudes that come in from OTAs to training camps to just building a whole different squad. So once it ends, once that ends and you like this, I don't know if I'm going to see these dudes, you know what I'm saying? Again, you know what I'm saying? Like you never plan on not seeing them. You know what I'm saying? You always like, man, we working the next day.

36:57James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? We got something to do. We're grinding. We got practice. We got stuff going on. Season not going to end. We're going to win the Super Bowl. Until next thing you know, you can't win the Super Bowl. You didn't make it. You lost in a playoff game. Shit just happens fast. And then, you know, you like this. Hold up. This shit can be, you know what I'm saying? It's over. You know what I'm saying? Where am I going? Yeah, baby. Speaking of Super Bowls, we got a Super Bowl rematch coming up. Patrick Mahone was asked how many times did he watch the Super Bowl of them losing 40 to 22?

37:33He said, how much has he watched the Super Bowl on his own in the weeks after? he said I mean yeah I mean I've watched the game after so you have to learn from it I mean it sucks you lose the game but in order to progress to get better the next time you have to watch and learn from it and so I don't know the exact amount of times but you watch it and then you watch it in the offseason with the team and with the coaches and then you watch it obviously this week as well So, I mean, it sounds like he done watched this game way more times than he wanted to say that he done watched it.

38:16James Harrison:Man, right there, that's three times. He said, but you watch it, and then you watch it in the offseason with the team and the coaches, and then obviously you watch it this week for training. So that's three good times that he watched the joint. You know what I'm saying? And as something like when you play against the Eagles, you watch games. And I didn't know Patrick Mahomes is a G. He's a legend. He's a GOAT. That just sucks. It sucks watching you not play to the top of your level and then at the top of the world playing in the Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying? So obviously it's not a game that you want to watch.

38:47James Harrison:But when you're watching film and you're a professional like Patrick Mahomes is, he watches it when he has to. I watch it with my coaches. I watch it during offseason and I watch it this week. You know what I'm saying? You really want to know. It's not a game that I admire watching, but I have to study tape and I'm going to get better from it. I love his take on it, but he don't want to watch the game. He didn't play well, but you're going to learn stuff from it. And I think that, you know, you can learn what Philly was doing to you to make the game look, get that bad, get that ugly. So I think it's not just him.

39:16James Harrison:It's his line. It's their blitz. It's just understanding what Philly did to make them look that bad. So I respect Pat. I love Pat. And him saying, yeah, I watched it with the coaches. I watched it during the offseason and I watched it. He watched it. He watched it a lot. He said he watched it a lot. He said he watched it a lot. No, no, no. He said he watched it in the offseason. He didn't say I watched it one time in the off. He said I watched it in the off season. Like he watched it. He kept watching it. He kept watching it. I ain't even lied to you, bro. I don't. Let me think about it. I don't really think I watched a whole Super Bowl that I lost.

39:57I had the misfortune of being in two of them that I lost. one with uh distillers and one with the patriots and dude honestly i can't say that i've watched i know what i did wrong i know dude i can yeah i don't i don't think i've ever like watched in whole i'm gonna ask you this do

40:23James Harrison:you think patrick is saying that he watched the whole game or he watched like the like the clips You know what I'm saying? Like on your iPad. Do you know what I'm saying? He's saying he's watched with coaches. He's what like I haven't like I haven't watched the whole defense or anything. Like I haven't watched a whole or nothing. If I catch it, it's on like TV or something like I have not sat down and watched that whole tape. Of any Super Bowl loss. I ain't moving a lot. Sure. Like, for me, like, I can't do nothing to get better next week. And the chances of seeing them again at the same place are slim to none.

41:09So I'll worry about that when that time comes and gets closer. But I'm like, I haven't really watched the full. Well, I think you might be different for him because he's playing them again.

41:20James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? He's playing them again. They're playing this week. You know what I'm saying? And so it could. Well, yeah, I could see that because, yeah, after you get hit like that. The last time that you played them, they hit you. They hit you. The last time that you played them, they hit you. So you got to check and see what went wrong. You got to if you really want. You know what I'm saying? Check on it. Bump your feelings. We try and get better. You know what I'm saying? End of the day. And the last time we played them was in the Super Bowl where they smacked us. So then you would probably watch it if you was in this situation.

41:47Yeah, that's not just a smack. That's like a – that was a – I couldn't believe it. That was a problem.

41:54James Harrison:Yeah, no, for sure. That was ugly. Speaking of getting whooped on, I mean, after the Colts got in the – I can't say that. Yeah, I can. After the Colts got in the Dolphins' ass, they had a players-only meeting. Linebacker Jordan Brooks, one of Miami's six captains, said, losing the way we did week one can be discouraging. Outside noise, people talking, fans talking, family talking, whatever, everybody talking, but just kind of making sure that everybody's together. When you lose like that, it's easy for people to get discouraged and start looking, questioning maybe yourself and others. So just making sure that we all lock in and make sure that the belief is still there.

42:48You lose belief. You don't have nothing. So making sure that everybody is still on the same page can be next and come back next week stronger. Have you had any players-only meetings like this, bro? I have.

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45:47Dude, no. I have not had a players-only meeting like that. For me, for you to even have to have a players-only meeting like that after one week tells me that what you're afraid of is already happening and you're trying to stop it from, you know, spreading out to other people in the locker room that may not be feeling the same way.

46:17James Harrison:Once it gets to the players only meeting, you already lost. So, like, that's kind of where I was like, that's just where you... Oh, you was in Cleveland. I keep forgetting that. I forgot how... Yeah, you was real good. That's what we're not going to do. We're not going to be here for the slander of the land. You don't want slander of the land. I'm slandered. Slandered means it's not true. I said you were real good. You go going to the hall. What are you talking about? It's just that your team, y 'all didn't, it's okay. It's not really okay, but I understand, that's why I never had one of those type of meetings.

46:49So let me go ahead and tell you how I was those times.

46:52James Harrison:So long story short, if the, it's, you know, there's always, it was a lot of coaching staff change. We had a different coach kind of every year we were there, a different head coach, different offensive coordinator. So it was a kind of different, sometimes different, voice. You know what I'm saying? So sometimes when you had vets that were around like me, like Joe T, when we had situations where you were just, people started kind of going for themselves, like kind of, at the end of the day, we wanted to let them know the eye in the sky don't lie. What you don't want to do is not perform. The thing is your job is on the line.

47:25James Harrison:Even if you're not going to play for the Browns, you're going to play for somebody else. Like your tape is your resume. It gets down to the gritty once you start being mathematically eliminated. When your team cannot make the playoffs, when you have to start telling dudes like, man, bump all that. Like, I'm doing, you see the way I'm leading, I'm out here because end of the day, the eye on the sky don't lie. If we losing games, we got to be able to come in here and watch the tape and it not be my fault. That's what it's not going to be. You know what I'm saying? So having to have these conversations with other grown men in situations where coaches are trying to figure out if they're going to get fired and I'm just like, I'm just trying to ball.

47:58James Harrison:I'm here to hoop and that's really kind of all that matters. So that's when your team So what you're saying is that you're not going to be in a winning spot with a team only meeting, I feel. I think. Yeah, yeah. So what you're saying is like when it came down to it, the personalities of the players that y 'all were picking led to them being a little mentally weak, if not a lot mentally weak. and they just didn't have the internal fortitude to push through. So y 'all had to do a players-only meeting to try and rah-rah them to get them going. That's kind of what I'm hearing. I mean, it's not exactly that.

48:47James Harrison:Yeah, it's okay. I mean, I don't know, Debo, have you ever been in a – I've never been in that situation. You know what I'm saying? I've been to Pittsburgh. It's definitely some situations where we've been into that have been kind of off, where you just got to really – end of the day, it is a business, but the eye in the sky don't lie. Your resume is what you put on tape. So when you want to be a professional, end of the day, you go 0-16. I mean, I've been 0-1-15. Those are not stable organizations. Coaches know that they're about to get fired. People are walking into the spot not knowing if their job is secure or not.

49:28James Harrison:So that's where you're in the joint. I know I'm here. I'm balling. I'm doing what I got to do. And it's not – the problems are over your head. You know what I'm saying? That's why I look at Chicago sometimes. Sometimes your job is to do what you do. You come in there to do your 111. You know what I'm saying? If you're a quarterback, you'd be the best quarterback you can do. You come in there. You train here on time. And you think that your coaches and the organization are competent enough to put you in a position to win. there's not things that you need to be handling that you start handling when you're in a position where the other people aren't doing it.

49:59James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? So that's just kind of where I don't, I, that's, that, that was my particular situation. And when I'm looking at from the dolphins, I'm not in that locker room, but when I'm hearing like these dudes looking like, man, I don't want y 'all, just people just out of there. Like, I don't care. But at the end of the day, you're just trying to, the situation may not be the best, but what you need to do is come out here and you have to perform your, your job is NFL. I understand what you're saying. Like the players only I'm with you on that. As far as a players only meeting, I think I think you you've lost it.

50:31Now we got a players only meeting. That means that the leadership that is in place who would be, you know, your your coaches, your head coach, your coordinators. y 'all are feeling like they aren't either given what is going to be needed to move forward and produce a different outcome. Yeah, I don't think the players only meeting does anything. I think anybody that had a players only meeting, they probably lost their coach in a year or two. I don't know. How many coaches did y 'all after a players only meeting lose?

51:05James Harrison:I mean, we probably, I haven't been a part of too many players only meetings, probably about two, probably about two or maybe three. And each one of the coaches definitely was fired. Yeah. I don't, I don't think a players only meeting, I think it could help. But if I got to, like you're a grown man in a professional sport, this is your livelihood. It should be nothing that's going to like mentally take you out of it. Like, yeah, physically you could get hurt, all the other stuff. but like you got to go out there. Now, D-Bo, you can see how. D-Bo, you can see just how people not rocking with playing time.

51:41James Harrison:You can see how a dude is a professional and can be like, I'm not rocking with it. We losing, y 'all tripping. You know what I'm saying? I'm not rocking with it. You know what I'm saying? Like that is people do that. You know what I'm saying? Like they're not locking their playing time. Yeah, but a player's only meeting would not be something that a player that is disgruntled about his playing time, that wouldn't be a player's only meeting. That would be a head coach thing. You see what I'm saying? When you do a players only meeting, you're saying that the majority of my team is out here talking about we are down bad and this is getting ugly.

52:15What just happened behind me? Did my light go out? Oh, I didn't even see. I think it did. Anyway, go ahead. No, you look straight. No, I think my light just went out. Somebody tell me my light went out. I think my light went out. It had to. Yeah, my light went out. That's what it was. Yeah, my light went out. Oh, my goodness, dude. This is out of control, man. I'm going to have to fix that before things get too dark here. Do it look good still, Joe?

52:53James Harrison:You still solid, D-Bo. You still solid. I'm solid? That's all I need to make sure, man. I want to make sure I'm solid, man. Yeah. Yeah, this is what happens when you're on live podcast. I'm not a fan of the players' only meetings. I don't feel like you need – like, that's when you're not in a good spot. Like you said, if you haven't been a part of one, that's good. That's a good thing. Okay, well, if you had to do something to resurge this team, what would you do? What would be your first step in trying to get the Dolphins back on track?

53:29James Harrison:First, it starts with Tua. I don't... I'm not the biggest Tua fan. I'm not the biggest Tua fan. I don't know. He's never been my favorite quarterback. I don't know how... I don't know if they can build around him. And then with Tyreek Hill, too, they're just not getting along. I think he needs to... He might have to keep... They might have to do something with him, too. I'm just... Miami... The coach, we had their coach. He was the coach. He was the wide receiver coach for me when we were in Cleveland. Great, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant mind. I think he might be one of the best. Maybe maybe just put him in an offensive coordinator role.

54:08James Harrison:I don't know if he's ready for the head coaching spot. I mean, he was doing a great job, but I just think just letting him just do one thing and let somebody else maybe come and be a head coach. I think they made it a new voice. That's just my thought. What do you think? that's yeah that's that's where i ain't gonna lie i don't you know that's where i would go with it i would uh i mean for this year i think you just roll out what you got going and try and uh try and finagle it yeah some way shape or form but i think it's time just to it's a lot of noise going on over there man it's a lot of just that's what i'm saying so much it's Not one thing that I could do that would just make it happen.

54:53James Harrison:Too many moving parts right now going on over there. And then, yeah, you can't. Well, you could get rid of Tariq, but then what you got? Now it's about to get real bad. Look, rebuild. Get as much as you possibly can. You said go ahead. Go ahead, man. Go ahead. Go ahead. Not like I'm saying in a bad way. Tariq Hill is great. That's where they're going to be able to get some good stuff for him. But he's not happy. What do you think I could get for him, though? What would you give for Tyreek? What would I give for Tyreek Hill? Yeah. Two first-round picks. Ooh. Yep. Because I know I got him, but I got him, yeah.

55:38James Harrison:I'll give him two first-round picks. He's going to be an instance. He's going to instantly be a – he's instantly going to be still a cheater, Tyreek Hill. It's not his fault. You see him being able to make it back to Kansas City? I don't know about their relationship, man. I'd like him to come to Pittsburgh. That'd be crazy. I heard rumbles that they offered him something.

56:04Speaking of Pittsburgh, buddy, Aaron Rodgers could surpass Brett Favre for career touchdowns on Sunday. I will be at that game, dude. I will be at that game. Rodgers has thrown for a 507 regular season touchdown passes. Favre retired with 508. He could pass him in that game. All he got to do is throw two of them tutties, man. If Rodgers throws two touchdowns on Sunday against the Seahawks, he'll tie Favre for the fourth. One touchdown, sorry. He'll tie Favre for the fourth most in NFL history. If he throw two, he's going to take him over, obviously. so Rogers actually oh he got a long way to go before he gets to Brady Brady got 649 yes second is Breeze with 571 followed by Peyton with 539 I guess Rogers has a chance to pass Peyton though 649 is crazy work out of control out of control Dude, out of...

57:09Uncle Tom was launching them joints. Dude, I tell you what, man. I wanted to, like I said before, I wanted to hate that dude when I went there, man. Just because, just playing against him, never met him, never, you know, knew of his personal. Yeah. Nothing, you know what I'm saying? And I get there, and as soon as I get there, you know, like, he the first person pop up. Hey, man, how you doing? I'm Tom Brady. I'm like, man, I know who the fuck you, man. You look coming up to me, like, talking, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, talking to me, introducing yourself. You know what I'm saying? So I'm sitting back.

57:41I'm like, yeah, let me watch him, man. I know he's fake. You ain't trusting that. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I know. Let me sit back and watch this. I know he's fake as hell. He trying to set me up. I sit back, man. I'm watching him, man. Same thing, dude. You know, practice squad dude come in. You know, just watching him all week. Seeing him move around, dude. And I'm sitting there, and he's on the table, like, next to me. And I'm like, yo, I got a confession to make, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. When I came here, man, I wanted to hate you. I said, but you a good dude, man. I see what everybody like, man.

58:13He is. He is genuinely good. That's solid, bro. And he mess with everybody. That's solid. I'm happy to hear that. Yeah. Yeah.

58:21James Harrison:But I met everybody. Do you think, do you think you being there, you think you gonna break the record? You think you, not break the record, but pass Brad Favre? Oh, yeah. Dude, he ain't that far away. He only needed to throw one a time and two to pass him. he go he go get he go get far no matter what that's gonna happen the one that I think is yes that that's gonna be very that's that's gonna be I think that's gonna be a little questionable he still had to play more he'll have to play 33 out if he if he do that or you think he gonna He threw eight. Listen, he threw four last week. On average, a four game.

59:07Average a four game is crazy work. Listen, that was just, that was just, you know, that was an average. That's what the average is right now. It is. Four a game. So I'm going as four a game. And that's 68 touchdowns.

59:20James Harrison:That's 68 touchdowns, Debo. Listen, through 17 games. That's 68 touchdowns. What are we talking about? It's possible. It is possible. He averaging four right now today. As of today. As of today, he's on target for 68. He's on pace. He's on pace. He's on pace. And if he gets 68. 68 touchdown. You heard it live here. If he gets 68, he passes Drew Brees too. Aaron's on pace for 68. If he gets 68, he passes Drew Brees and Peyton Manning. Yes. that's I mean that's where as of pace right now as of pace make sure you say as of pace right now because that's as of pace right now my man Aaron Rodgers is on on for 68 touchdowns if he averaged three D-bo he had 51

1:00:16hey bro averaging

1:00:17James Harrison:I ain't gonna lie to you averaging three is hard that's what I'm saying you said four I know I know I've ever heard but you had You tried to drop it down like it was realistic. I'm just up here talking hella boatloading shit. Okay, okay, okay. I'm bad. I'm trying. I'm just, you know? Because we got to win. I'm a numbers guy. I just got to see what it looks like. Right, right. Speaking of numbers, the number one overall pick, Cam Ward's debut didn't look great. They, but they failed. Whoa. But they failed to tell the whole story. Ward's completion rate was affected by mistakes. from his head coach, plus several drops from his receivers.

1:00:58The quarterback, however, hasn't lost confidence in his past catchers. He says, I'm never going to get on these guys for dropping the ball. I'm going to throw a pick at some point in the season. So bad plays are going to happen. The biggest thing is when we get back to the huddle, we have to always have a next play mentality. I'm not too worried about that. These boys are going to play. These boys are going to catch the ball.

1:01:32James Harrison:I like the young quarterback believing in his guys. I saw him out there when I watched the game, and I think he has a great presence. And like he said, too, they were dropping some good passes that he was throwing to them in the fourth quarter, like trying to lead them back. So I just love the way he still believes in them. He knows he's a young quarterback. He's going to have bad times when he needs them to believe in him and be like, pick him up. So same time, just not putting his teammates, not being mean to his teammates or throwing them under the bus. I think that's a sign of a good quarterback that's building confidence in those guys.

1:02:06James Harrison:So they want to do better for them. And at the same time, like we said earlier, they feel terrible. They want to make those plays. So not jumping on them, adding to it. When you know these dudes care, they feel bad. Your quarterback is standing up for you. So I think in the future, they're going to try to work a little harder, obviously, and hopefully they catch those passes. But this is a good sign of him just being a good leader. Yeah, yeah. I 100 % agree with you on that, especially, you know, him saying that, you know, it's going to come a point in time where, you know, he's not going to be doing as well.

1:02:39And, you know, he's hoping he's going to get the same, you know, treatment that, you know, you treat somebody how you want to be treated. You know, he's going to be there. You support him. He's hoping they'll do the same thing for him. Great, great, great, great person or mentality to have as a quarterback, especially when you're, you know, you're the QB and you're the leader of that team. Yeah, it can't get any better than that. But before we get to the ticket winners, we got some super chats, Joe. Super chats. Lisa Lynch donated 20 instead. Go ahead, Lisa Lynch. Shout out Lisa Lynch. Lisa Lynch.

1:03:22James Harrison:Lisa Lynch Cook. She said, love you too. God bless. God bless you too, Lisa Lynch. God is good. Yes, he is. My good man, Brother Debo. God is good. All the time. Okay, and all the time, God is good. There we go. I grew up in the church, D-Bo. Let's go. Okay, so listen. Drum roll. If I drum this thing, this thing might fall. The moment we've all been waiting for are two ticket winners. Joe! Winner number one. Full name? No. We're going to go with Instagram. We're going to go with all of it. James. James. Big. Dingman. Instagram. Still City underscore JD. You are the first winner of two tickets to the Steelers season opener as we go in there and pound the life out of the Seattle Seahawks.

1:04:41DK, go come out of there with probably a buck 75, three tugs, and Roger go throw another one to somebody else to go my average of four touchdowns. All right. So.

1:04:58Whoa. Here we go. Winner number two.

1:05:09Olivia Rainey. Instagram short 185 she's a short 185 Instagram you are the second winner of the two tickets to the still season open with the boss

1:05:33James Harrison:shout out to James shout out to Olivia shout out to James shout out to Olivia congratulations y 'all are going to have a blast you guys are really going to have a blast it's going to be a great time had by all and we go ball see I'm getting French again so this is what we want you to do

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