Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Ravens defensive DUD in Lions loss, Prime calls out Travis Hunter's usage

22:30The Declaration, which is full of these beautifully rendered sentences and paragraphs about Enlightenment ideals, does also have this darker history to it.

22:41James Harrison:Why is it important for the darker part of the Declaration of Independence and the American Revolution? Why is it important that Americans know about it? Well, if we don't understand the full context in which our nation was founded, we won't understand the full context in which our nation now finds itself. I'm Rebecca Nagle, Goheen Dawadon, Jalakayetli Keila, citizen of Cherokee Nation. Are you guys big Chiefs fans? Hell yeah. This is First America, the true story of how the United States came to be and how we got to this present moment. Listen to First America on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

23:29Pressuring. What do you say to that? Like, how do you come in and be like, yo, like, we could do this better. we can.

23:39James Harrison:I think some of the stuff with the offensive line, some of the, some of the sacks, I would say, I would say some of the sacks are like Lamar trying to extend plays and keeping the ball a little bit too long. Sometimes Lamar take off. You know what I'm saying? If it's not there, we need just, just go get something, slide, get down. You're an athlete. Like some of that stuff, just trying to wait, wait, wait, like it's not there. It's not there. Get out of there. So some of it isn't as much on the offensive line, but at the same time, y 'all are scoring your playing. You're efficient. Our offense is pretty efficient.

24:08James Harrison:We scored 30 points, but that's some stuff we just got to watch the tape, continue to do better, but a lot of these things aren't our bad as much. We can definitely do better. We can definitely protect Lamar. We can protect the ball. Derrick Henry not fumbling once a game. We don't turn the ball over. We're a good offense, but we can't be giving the ball back. We can't keep putting our defense. Our defense is already struggling. Let's not hurt them anymore. You know what I'm saying? Let's try to give them short fields. Let's try to make them protect like leads. You know what I'm saying? If they're having to play from behind, they're not really that defense is going to get us back into the game.

24:45James Harrison:Well, hell, even when they playing ahead, that don't work either. We saw that in Buffalo. Something has to be done. It's more the defense's fault on the Ravens end than I would say the offense. Lamar Jackson, his QB ratings are amazing. Sometimes I'm just saying, don't keep the ball in your hands as much, just try to get out of there, throw the ball away. It's okay. He averages less than one throwaway a game. It's so – because he doesn't – he believes, if it's in my hands, I'm going to make something happen. But sometimes just getting it out of bounds, living for the next play, is a better situation.

25:20James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? So the defense can definitely, definitely do a lot better. Offense isn't really struggling too much. It's just – it's a team game. We got to have the defense doing a whole lot better, and we can't turn the ball over basically at all. Like Derrick Henry, we can't have him average in one turnover a game. That's not winning football for us. Oh, yeah. It's going to start with the defense, though. 100%. That'll start with the defense. I mean, of course, the offense is not playing perfect, but you're looking at the numbers that, you know, they're putting up. We got to be able, as a defense, to stop someone.

25:51James Harrison:We're historically bad right now at the Ravens. Like, you can't be asking. You know what I'm saying? Then the offense is doing good, but okay, not the best, but your defense is historically bad. Like we can do a whole lot better. Yeah, for sure. So Matt LaFueur, watch how I say it, the braces LaFueur. If I don't go LaFueur, if I don't put my lips out, brace up against my stuff. He wasn't happy with the undefeated talk from his team. I guess after they went 2-0, the tackle Walker said that he thought, he said, I see it. No, LaFueur said, I see it a million times. I say it a million times to you guys.

26:31I don't think I've obviously said it enough to our team. The goal is to go 1-0 every week. You said, and it pisses me off when we start talking about things outside of the game, things that are way down the road, like focus on, keep the focus on the present, on now, and worry about getting better each and every day. How do you feel about guys when they go to the, I think we can go undefeated. and actually put it out there, say it in a interview, and you're only 2-0 at that point.

27:10James Harrison:I think it's dumb. At the end of the day, what Coach said was the best thing that you could say. Go 1-0. It's hard enough to win a game. You know what I'm saying? And then these dudes are getting paid. If you start looking forward and pass folks, that's how you lose to a team that you were better than. You got to beat the team that you plan in that stadium that week. That's all you got to do. That's all you got to worry about. Our film study, our focus is about this team because they can beat us. These are also professional athletes that we're playing against. And if you get your mind past that, you're thinking about something else you can easily lose.

27:45James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? So I think you got to be singularly focused on exactly what the mission is. And that's each week winning this game. When you walk to a stadium, our goal is to beat this team. I'm studying. I'm doing all of my film work. I'm doing everything I got to do to win this week. And if we don't win this week, we'll figure it out Monday and Tuesday. And on Wednesday, my goal is to win the next game. You know what I'm saying? Period. That's going to be off your map. You're not worried about that. Basically Monday because they already. Monday. You know what I'm saying? So Tuesday is washed.

28:15James Harrison:But like Wednesday, we're completely singly focused on the next one. So it's like you got to. It's hard enough to win a game in this league. And then when you start thinking that you're better than you are and start preparing for other teams and not worrying about the team that's right ahead of you, that's how you're going to lose. Dog stomp them then if they're not good enough. You know what I'm saying? They shouldn't be on the field. Make this a stat game. Go crazy. And then you can go to the next one and then work on that. So I completely agree with the coach in the way he thinks because it's any given Sunday.

28:43James Harrison:You walk into the stadium thinking it's sweet and you'll get smacked and then you'll be looking crazy trying to figure it out. Yeah, I think what I 100 % agree with him. And when you hear guys say that and they say it out loud and it gets out there, again, bulletin board material. You don't want to get nobody to know bulletin board material because what you just did in week two, you just gave 15 teams bulletin board material because you looked at your list of teams that you had left and you said win, win. It's all wins. Yes, I think we can go 500. So you just said that to them, without saying it, I'm reading in between the lines.

29:25You just said you marking us as a W. Y 'all go pop our ass. What happens? You go out there to Cleveland. Cleveland got a defense. The offense does its job. And you sitting there and that undefeated talk is a crock of shit. You couldn't even win the next game. so I'm 100 % with him again taking guys like you taking the team like oh we go going here do this oh my whole schedule look like when you're saying something like that your whole to you your whole schedule looks like and it's it's nothing easy in this league dude no for sure and Debo even if you feel that way you're not gonna go like you can say it amongst your boys

30:09James Harrison:but once you go put it out there to everybody now it's that like you said it's bulletin board material. You feel like you're going to go undefeated. You think that any team you're going to play, you're going to win. But like going out there, putting it out there is bulletin board material. And then when you go out there and get dog stomped and it's this early in the year, that was for all for nothing. You know, you think you're going to win. Just go out there, be, say it, be respectful in the media because then that's not going to do anything. That's not going to do anything about how you go out there and play.

30:34James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? But actually motivate somebody else. Yes. It's going to motivate the other team. like this is what you said literally going into before the next game which is us, which is Cleveland like he said this, if you can't get up for that, you can't get up for nothing and from that point forward, that could be used at every every team because he looked at the thing and he said oh yeah, we're running the board, I don't see nobody on here that could beat us

31:10I don't understand the thought process especially that like it's okay to sell wolf tickets to the next game but you just sold them to 15 others and you don't even know you don't even know

31:22James Harrison:you don't even know you don't even know man you're talking about like we're not even you're not even a lot for the playoffs you're not even mathematically like you could literally get mathematically eliminated you know what I'm saying there's so many more things that could happen like that would be horrible if they went in, I don't see it happening. I don't see it happening either. But a lot of people didn't see the bright. You got to go in there. You got to win the games. You know what I'm saying? Injuries-wise, not wishing anything on anybody, but you got to go out there. It's a long season.

31:51James Harrison:It's going to be wear and tear. We want to see what happens in week seven, week eight, week nine. You know what I'm saying? Who's still standing up right? You know what I'm saying? It's a very, very long season. Going in week two, talking about you going to go undefeated because you won two games is actually crazy. Yes. So Michael Parsons is returning to Dallas next week. Jerry Jones said the club will not plan for a tribute type video during Sunday's game against the Packers. Unlike the ones they created for Emmitt Smith or Ezekiel upon their return to Dallas. I don't he said, I don't think that's appropriate this way.

32:29Emmitt was a different story. there is there is not that's not to diminish michael i think micah has enough welcome out there and we need to show that's and we need to show that we've got antidotes for that all right he's saying he gonna welcome him out there they gotta stop him um what do you feel about this dude i'm me personally this is how i feel about how you feel debau i don't think you should give any tribute to a player that you are playing against that week to give any type of boost comp all that like you can get all that after you're done playing or when you're not in a game that I don't I just don't I'm not cool with it like I understand that he was there for four years and he said, you know, this was a different situation.

33:29That was a different situation. But I think the big thing too, though, is like he's playing the Packers. I'm not trying to give him a highlight show of himself in our stadium against us. I'm just not doing it. Like Emmitt Smith was what?

33:52James Harrison:That's what I'm saying. With nobody. Emmitt Smith for sure, but do you feel the same way about like, because if Ezekiel Elliott got one, do you think it's a little different or not? Because Emmitt Smith won Super Bowls for them. You know what I'm saying? He played for them for a very, very long time. Multiple, definitely did a re-up contract. I think that's the other thing too. Well, you got to also understand that Jerry feel like Micah did him wrong. Oh, for sure. So it's a little different. You know what I'm saying? No, no. I think I think the big thing is like over time, especially in this business, what, you know, issues you may have had with a coach or owner or GM, they dissipate over time.

34:39It's not it's no longer, you know, no longer. Yeah. And on top of it, like it's no issues now in the current time that having the same or having that relationship. you won't have that same relationship with them. So you tend to just let things go and move on, and you build back, you know, whatever that relationship would be. Or you don't, and you just splice off. But people just, you don't care as much. You know what I'm saying?

35:13James Harrison:I think it's like a two-way street. I think it's with Jerry Jones, too. You know, he didn't let my man Jimmy Johnson. he wasn't in the ring of honor for a while because you know i'm saying that relationship knowing he should have been in the ring of honor and then i think with jerry jones bringing in uh michael parsons i don't think four years playing with the team deserves a um highlight tape are you coming back to the spot you know i'm saying if you would have went super bowls and been there for a while multi-contract guy um and then coming back on your like later latter end of your career than maybe.

35:49James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Just out of respect, depending on how that relationship ended. You know what I'm saying? People do feel some type of way, like you said. Owners do have the right to either do it or not. And I know Jerry not putting Jimmy in the ring of honor for a while is more personal. And like you said, once time goes by and bygones be bygones, he ends up putting them back in because it's like, all right, yeah, it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? But Micah Parsons, we just went through nasty contract negotiations. You were here for four years. This is still fresh. It's too fresh.

36:20And I'm looking at my pass rush right now.

36:22James Harrison:No, I ain't giving you none of that. None of that right now. No, no, I don't want you to feel like, no, this is your world. No, this is Jerry's world. Right. Like, I can see definitely why he wouldn't do it. And it's just situational-wise. So, like, don't feel no type of way that Jerry's not doing it. I can see why he's doing it. I would expect him to not do the highlight tape right now. It's too early. It's too fresh. And you know what I'm saying? and Michael was just in the building, so, like, definitely. Yeah, for sure. So, Travis Hunter, let's step over here. He's playing both sides, offense, defense.

36:56Played over 30 snaps at each wide receiver and cornerback for Jacksonville in weeks one and two. And he said, however, he has not been as impactful as thrust far, especially on the offense side of the ball. 16 targets, 10 catches, 76 yards. Coach Prime, who has consistently supported Hunter, said they're not using him enough. Quote, they're not using him enough. I've seen it with my own eyes on an everyday basis for three straight years, so I know what he's capable of. He's always had at least five hours of study each week. he had a phenomenal he's he is just a phenomenal athlete one of the greatest i've ever seen do both simultaneously and he's dominating what do you um what do you think do you think he just needs time do you think he needs a a better i'm finding do you think my mind is starting to get

38:05James Harrison:a little bit i'm starting to think a little bit differently than what i thought about at first just because what they say, like, you got to be a master of – if you're really good at a lot of things, you can't be a master of none. So I'm kind of more now leaning to – we want him to – Jacksonville, we want to get him on the ball. We want him to be – he's an offensive player. He's a wide receiver also. If you want to do it, make him something 100%. Let him be able to get out there where he can get all of the plays on offense, know what's going on because he's a playmaker he's a game changer and I think if he gets the ball in his hands like Prime is saying he can help your offense out splitting him and not being able to let him thrive you know I'm saying at one is kind of I think limiting him and it's not letting him just be able to go all in and get plays on something like being able to get coming out not being able to get a groove getting the feel of a game I think that is kind of a real thing and me I didn't play both ways, but I'm just saying, like, you got to get going and being able to get going on defense and having to come out, get going on offense, starting to get a groove, having to come out.

39:15James Harrison:I don't know what kind of flow or what kind of rhythm you can get going. So I can see what Deion's saying is like, you're not using them right. I think you got to use them 100 percent on offense or something or 100 percent on defense or 100 percent on offense and 20 percent on defense. But you got to make one of the main things the main thing to where he can be a pro bowler at something or he won't just be average at both. You know what I'm saying? I think he can be a really great pro bowl receiver or a really great pro bowl cornerback. But if he's playing both at the same time with the time that he's getting with the plays, he's not going to be able to impact the game in the way that he is.

39:50James Harrison:So he needs to be 100 % out there on the field no matter what. And I think that's going to increase his impact tremendously on whatever side he ends up going 100 % of it. But he got to main things something so he can be a master or something and not just good or average at two things. Yeah, I think they should do the same thing and just pick one, whether it's corner or if it's receiver, and let him grind in, focus on that. And you can have, you know, special things here and there where he's not actually dedicated to having to learn a whole bunch on one side or the other to do whatever those few, you know, number of plays is.

40:31But I think if he's able to sit on one side, really concentrate on that, focus in on that, and just let his athletic talent, you know, dictate how he plays on the other. I think he would be more impacted.

40:45James Harrison:A thousand percent. Because more and more, I think about it, though, too, Debo. It's like, how much time do you actually really have in practice? You know what I'm saying? Like, to do the things. Like, my offense is doing their thing. Defense is doing our thing. And then when we go together, you know what I'm saying? You're kind of – you can't be in two places at one time. To be getting the install with the guys, with everything. All meetings go on at the same time. All meetings are going on at the same exact time. So you can't really be in two places at one time. So I love Travis Hunter. I don't think that – but I don't think – I think that it's not letting him be as great as he can be when he's got to – the puller, he's got to be in two places at one time when you can't do that.

41:25Yeah, you're giving him – I mean, like, again, you're talking college to pro, a little bit of a different system, Especially when you get in there with defenses. Trying to have a rookie quarterback read defenses is a challenge. And getting out there as a receiver and knowing when you're supposed to keep going, sit down, you need to work a little something here or there, and being able to concentrate on just that offensive side of it. Or, again, defensive side of it, whatever they choose to be, choose him to be, is what's really, really going to, I feel like you'd be able to help him lock in on one.

42:08James Harrison:Yep. Hey, man, look, I'm going to even put him on, if you're going to 100 % offense, special teams, kick the turn, pump the turn. I want to just get the ball in his hands and then on offense because he's a playmaker. If you want to do defense, you can do defense too and all that stuff, but just make him, let him do something 100%. Yeah, yeah. So. Hey, everybody. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby. What's up, y 'all? I'm your girl, Cheryl Swoops. When you tune in to a new episode of our podcast, Levels to This, you're definitely going to get some spicy WNBA analysis. I see a lot of men who get into the space because now it's a hot product.

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44:37The Declaration, which is full of these beautifully rendered sentences and paragraphs about Enlightenment ideals, does also have this darker history to it.

44:48James Harrison:Why is it important for the darker part of the Declaration of Independence and the American Revolution? Why is it important that Americans know about it? Well, if we don't understand the full context in which our nation was founded, we won't understand the full context in which our nation now finds itself. I'm Rebecca Nagle, Goheen Dawadon, Jalakayetli, Gayla, citizen of Cherokee Nation. Are you guys big Chiefs fans? Hell yeah. This is First America, the true story of how the United States came to be and how we got to this present moment. Listen to First America on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

45:35Looks like the 49ers are 3-0, buddy. They're doing well, but they just lost Bosa. He's out with an ACL tear.

45:48do you think, I mean, they've, from the last, what, one, two, three, four, five, six years, they've led, not led, but they've been up there high in injuries. Two of the three, it looks like they were, they were number one. Um, you feel like a curse. It's no curse. Um, I don't think it's a curse. I think, I don't know, man. I think it's just bad, you know bad luck timing whatever you want to you know do and you got Purdy out Kittle's out Jennings out now you got Bosa out yep

46:31James Harrison:I mean I think it's unfortunate you know I said everybody in the league is good everybody gets hurt everybody all teams take and get injured um I don't think it's the second time that Bosa did his ACL? Man, Bosa's been getting hurt a lot, bro. And I hope he's going to be okay. But it's just, them things happen. You don't want to, you don't like with Cincinnati too. I mean, all over the league, you got great name guys going down. So, like I said, too, with the Packers, the season, it's a long season. It's going to be people going down here and there. It's just really like, who's going to be able to stay the ship.

47:12James Harrison:When people go down, next man up. And if you got a good next man that's going to just be able to keep it going, that's the season. It's a long season, 17 game, regular season. Then you got to get to the playoffs. So all this stuff right now, just being able to win these close games, being able to figure your team out, being able to just get in the groove is what the beginning of the season is all about. So I'm sad for the 49ers, but all teams go through this. All teams go to transition. That's why you have to have your roster ready for, you know what I'm saying, when people go down. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

47:46Bosa Torres left ACL in 2020. And today is his right. Was that contact or non-contact? Did you, did you, did you?

47:58James Harrison:I saw he was, he was, he had somebody on him, but I didn't, it didn't, I didn't really get to see how much it was. It didn't look non-contact. non-contact somebody was passionate uh he was he was rushing and he had like the attacker was on him okay okay yeah i mean that's a that's a that's a little that's a little bit what was his first one was his first one non-contact i don't remember the first it's a high probability when you like uh when you tear uh ligaments like acls all that stuff that if it's non-contact It's like a 70 something percent chance that you would tear the other one non-contact because they say it's a genetic weakness in your ligament.

48:44So that's one thing that, you know, I was told. OK. So I hope it was contact, not non-contact. Well, he already did both. You know, so I mean, you actually, um, Big Ham, Big Ham towards ACL, non-contact, same thing. He did it. I think he did his other one in college. And then a few years later, he ended up tearing this other one. But it's Big Ham, Casey Hampton. Oh, Casey Hampton. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So that's something to be wary and cautious. I don't even know if they look and see what is going on with, you know, like players. If they go, you know, back that far and check things out. Like Bosa's injury history is wild.

49:462015, his senior year, he had a partially torn right ACL. His final year in Ohio State, he had core surgery. second year in the league he got the left ACL he had a groin last year and then this year he got a right ACL maybe he's just injury prone that's a lot of injuries man I don't know where is he working out at what type of training are you doing I don't know like I said it's a combination of everything on that he looks swole

50:22James Harrison:he looks so slow like he working out like he training but I want to make sure he's getting them things healed up right I don't know he's both a family them dudes been in the league it's a family of them dudes so oh yeah for sure so Atlanta said you know what man we got to do something man they fired the receivers coach Ike Hilliard yeah man I got it. I got it. Yeah, I got it. I got it. So, what do you think this will? I'm going to go with, I don't know, it could be two things. Okay. So, I'm going to go with, it could be one of this. It could be a case of, hey, somebody got to go. We just lost.

51:11Better than nothing to Carolina. Okay.

51:17Somebody got to go to save the rest of us. Okay, either we go get rid of one or all of us go get five. So this, who underperforming? Receivers? Receivers underperforming. Hey, coach, we're going to have to get you. We're going to have to get you up out of here. Hey, but the quarterback, he went like 50%, like less than 200 yards. And he had like two picks. Yeah, but we can't get rid of him. And we can't get rid of his coach.

51:44James Harrison:Why we can't get rid of his coach? Hey, he a rookie. Can't get rid of it. The quarterback coach is a rookie coach? No, no, no. Pinks is the rookie quarterback. No, Pinks is the rookie quarterback, but I'm saying who is his coach? Hey, you can't pull out his quarterback, his coach, in the first year. That's going to look crazy. You can't do that. Oh, it's the receiver. Like I said, so maybe it's the receiver. Or it could be a combination of the both. like some coaches don't like coach well and when i say coach well i mean like like develop their talent the talent that was able to get the most out of them oh yes and i think you have some coaches that can do that extremely well and some coaches that can't and then you have a lot of coaches that can like come into a situation and keep an already developed core together that has been you know developed without diminishing what they have there because a lot of players my question is this though do you do you know who i kill your is yeah he was he was um right receiver for yeah he was a receiver he was nice so my i'm not going to speak up because like Like, you know, not all ex-players are good coaches.

53:08James Harrison:But every ex-player that I ever had that was my coach was the best for me. Not just because they had the experience, but they were able to coach. I can't say that. You can say that or can't? I can't say that. You can't say that. Okay, no, I'm just saying from my experience, I had Cornell Lake and then I had Aaron Glenn. those two ex-players were really, really, really good coaches. And I'm not like, I heard what you said too, because it could be... Listen, I ain't going to say no names. I ain't going to even say what team was. Okay? I ain't going to say nothing. But we're doing linebacker drills.

53:52Okay? And the linebacker drill we're doing is wild, bro. It's a rush to passer

54:03sack strip to a drop in coverage or something. Dude, it was wild. It was something that you can't complete on one play. After you do a strip sack, then you drop back into coverage. Dude, listen, I can't remember how bad it was, but as soon as it is, listen, listen. This is a full player? Yes, yes, yes. So as soon as it happens, man, I look over at coach. I look over at my coach. And he look at me and he's like, James, just please do the drip. I said, coach, I ain't doing this shit. This ain't going to never happen in the play. I'm like, I don't even know why you let this dude run drip.

54:50James Harrison:Oh, shit. So I've had that experience. Okay, no, no, no. I feel like I had that experience too with, not with, no, my only my coaches that played were good coaches. I only had that experience with non-coaches that did drills that didn't make any sense. But, yeah. Everybody's trying to reinvent the wheel, dude. I'm like, you ain't got to. No. The rules may have changed, but like we're not going to have all this division. Hold up. Hold up. maybe a scoop to the scoop okay listen now there's another one where you go over the bags you punch down on like you know you stop somebody from cutting you yes you punch down on like three four bags yeah and you rip through rush to pass suck recover score if I hit four people see nah D-Bo see D-Bo shuffle down and still get through sack from where is everybody else at?

55:58James Harrison:I just touched five bodies. That's just that's not realistic but they're doing some realistic things that can happen in a play. You know what I'm saying? So that's not like one play you're going to do all those things. But you may do each separate thing. Why am I shuffling down and you're trying to cut me on a pass play? Multiple people. Because they want to keep your hands down. So where the other where the other people at I done ran through four or five of them yeah no you should just do one so you're just saying you just need to do legitimate one time one person there and then move on there's no reason you should be trying to it's not it's not going to happen and most of the time if you're doing if they're doing an immediate cut block it's a punch down they're trying to get your hands down that means it's a quick pass and you out of there not I'm not going down the line.

56:54Boom, boom, boom. No, no, no.

56:55James Harrison:Yeah, you're just not trying to do no unrealistic drills. Yes. Yes. So, like I said, that's why it could be a combination. I mean, just looking at Hilliard's coaching, he has spent time as a receivers coach, so I don't know exactly what it is. I think the most he spent was maybe four or five years in Washington, and then it's a year here, two years here, a year here. And I think before this, he might have been out of it for a couple years. So I don't know exactly what it is, but it's one of them. It's somebody gotta go. Hey, listen. For the betterment of the squad, somebody gotta go. We either go all lose our jobs, or we're gonna have to sacrifice one person.

57:49James Harrison:For the betterment of the collective, someone got to go and it ain't me. So it got to be somebody. Right. That's what I'm saying. So, I mean, how much can a wide receiver coach be responsible for all the bad come that came through that game? Not a whole lot, but, you know, when you start trying to, it's the same thing when you're losing and you've got the reporters trying to figure out what's going on. Why are they losing? They're a good team. Why are they losing? And now they see that, oh, so-and-so has a problem with so-and-so or this guy was late. They started looking for anything. And the crazy thing is 99.9 % of the time, it was already there.

58:33They just weren't looking for it. They didn't pay attention to it because it's nothing to look for when you're winning and everything's going good.

58:41James Harrison:Now they're not winning. So they're going to be able to pick and point at everything. And I'm saying with that rookie quarterback, too, hopefully now you're looking at the quarterback coach and he said you got to develop him. So hopefully he's getting if he's not getting better. Yeah, the OC, too. OC, man, they're that wide receiver coach. Man, he only he doing with the OC. What y 'all trying to what are y 'all what are the plays? I'm just telling my receivers what we need to do from what I'm hearing from y 'all. So, I mean, we got to see what kind of. And again, dude, if it's an executing thing, that means your receivers aren't executing it.

59:13So, like, why would you get rid of the coach when you try and get you some different receivers? I don't, you know. I don't know.

59:24James Harrison:I was going to do better. But you know what I got? I'm going to tell you who my defensive player. I got my defensive player of the week. Uh-huh. Who you got? My defensive player of the week is Hutchinson. The defensive lineman from. I could go. I could. I can understand that. His effort, amazing. He was getting after Lamar Jackson. He wasn't just sacking him. He was stopping the run. Unlimited effort. And then the punch out at the end of the game to force the fumble. He's just unlimited effort, bro. Getting after Lamar and getting after Derrick Henry. So, I'm going to go ahead and get after him.

1:00:04James Harrison:He was on that Monday night. All eyes on him. Shout out, Hutchison. So, I'm going to have to go with somebody else. I'm about to go with somebody that scored more points on defense than the team they were playing against did on offense and that is what's his last name? What's Isaiah's last name? What's his last name?

1:00:31Rogers yes I'm going with Rogers my guy took one to the house scooped another one up and took it to the house by himself He was responsible for 12 points, bro. They could have won with just that. It would have been 10 to 12. And look at me. I'm picking a D lineman and you picking a DB. Listen, man. He went on ahead. Points on the board, you can't. You can't do no better than points on the board. You can't. You can't. It's nothing. It's nothing out here, dude. You got to think about it. Isaiah Rogers became the first player in NFL history to record a pick six, a fumble return for a touchdown, and two forced fumbles in a single game.

1:01:17Come on. Dang. And he did all that in the first half, bro. Yeah. You want to change yours?

1:01:25James Harrison:Yeah, I mean, for sure. He was better. He was the defensive player. Come on over here. Yeah, I'm coming over here. We got a census. Nah, that was my bad. That was my bad. I got reminded about it too late. I should have picked him. It's good. We, in a sense, we got it going. He deserves it, though. That's for sure. No question. No question. He's on the board. He gave 12. He scored 12. He could have almost. He could have beat the Packers by himself. Yes. He could have beat Cincinnati by themselves. He could have beat Cincinnati, and he could have beat the Packers. This is true. Young boy went 2-0.

1:02:04This is true. He could have. I see what you're saying. I see what you. The other game, I got you. You know. I got you. You lost me for a minute there. I thought your CTU was kicking in.

1:02:13James Harrison:No, no, no, no, no, D-Bo. Yeah. I try to keep my head out of the nonsense. Try to keep it low. I try to keep it low, too. But my teeth, my braces be having me think. They be like, man, you see, you're all right talking. You can't even pronounce words, man. I think he done lost it. You know what I'm saying? No, man. It's the braces. They be catching your look, D-Bo. Yo. Yo. Catching all that. I had the whole thing up top at one point. And then I had it down the bottom. It first started off just like on the right side to open up for it, too. You know what I wanted to say, too? You know, we got to talk about a little bit before that.

1:02:48James Harrison:We got to talk about a little bit of our college football shit, too. Man, stop, man. You know what? You know what? I got to always bring up my Gators. I'm going to talk about the Gators. And they got to be more careful. The Gators? The Gators. Y 'all even got a football team anymore? Man, right now we out there playing like the baby Gators, but we got to do better. What y 'all? I don't know what's going on. I love Florida. I love the Gators, but we got to get back on track. We got to get back on track. Legway, what are we doing? Our offense, zero explosiveness. Listen, y 'all might not have enough NIL, NLI.

1:03:36What's that stuff called?

1:03:36James Harrison:We got to get a Gator fund and get the NIL bucket right. And we got to start figuring it out. We got to talk to some alums. Oh, yeah. And we're going to have to get it right. Start right here with Joe. Yep, yep. I know Pouncey. I know Mage. I know the boys. They was down there at the game. And that was not the display we was trying to give. So Florida, we're going to have to get back on it. but it's always go Gators. It's always go Gators. Where's my jersey? I got a helmet or something around here. That's not good. You put a Gator on you, bro? Go Gators. I'm going to talk about my school. Kent State.

1:04:24Kent State University. University, golden flashes. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to win a game in the last, like, 20-something, though. That's – I mean, we ain't got no funds. And I ain't starting no funds. I'm going to be 100 with y 'all. You know, as soon as a dude get good, you know, they come snatching. You get a good one, they, you know, they come snatching. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. You know, you lose them for a little bit of change, you know? So, I mean, I don't do it.

1:05:03James Harrison:Wait, Debo, you funny. You ain't donating. That's for sure. Who? I donated already. Bruh. Oh, there we go. Okay. It's a gym. They got, listen. They got the gym? Debo. It's trash. See, Debo. It's trash. It went to trash. It used to have weights in it. I think it got bands in it now. It's hot boo-boo. Okay? Like, it's called the James Harrison something, something, something. James Harrison something, something. I can't. I'm going to check it out. Take, please. If y 'all ain't going to put it back to what it used to be, man, it ain't nothing spectacular, but at least you have weights in there. You know what I'm saying?

1:05:45Just go ahead and just, it's a bad situation over there, man. It's a bad situation. like whoever like they switching coaches like like you change your draws man oh no oh man it's bad it's bad so I don't I don't my bad man look look

1:06:04James Harrison:both of our schools not doing the best right now yo they need to go ahead and take the James Head to Strength and Conditioning Center and and just please like do something pull my name off that thing man I don't it ain't no it ain't nothing to get strong in there with Like, what you want me to do? Okay. We got to throw some weights in there, Debo. I don't understand. And on top of it, hey, they spelled it wrong on the school website, bro. Ken State. Come on, Ken State. You got to do better for Debo, man. We got to. You got to do better for everybody. Y 'all know y 'all had Jack Lambert there? Jack Lambert.

1:06:47Ken State. Wow. You didn't know that, did you?

1:06:50James Harrison:Nope. I knew you I knew Edelman Edelman Gates Antonio Gates come on he played basketball though he didn't want to come out for the hoop he still went to Kent State yeah for sure like I don't understand it dude anyway man we about there we want to thank you guys for joining us again. We need you to like and subscribe to Debo and Joe. Hit the button. Come on. Like and subscribe to the Debo and Joe show. We coming to you every Monday, Tuesday, and Friday here with the takes. We will be back Friday. And we out this.

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