Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Seahawks-Cardinals, Marvin Harrison Jr.'s DROPS, Steelers Ireland preview

20:10James Harrison:Jacob was eating on the outside. Walker was breaking through a lot of those runs. Yeah, Darnold was converting. Darnold was doing a good job, too, just using his legs, hitting Jackson Smith when he needed to. So, I mean, I was honestly looking at the Seahawks. They were playing a really good game. Yeah, yeah, it's a really good game. Darnold did pretty good. You know what I'm saying? Over there. He wasn't turning the ball over. Right, right. 18 to 26, 240 yards, touchdown, you know. I think he's starting to earn a little bit of that, you know, three-year,$100 million contract that Seattle gave him.

20:49Come on, man.

20:50James Harrison:That's right around, you know, that 33 a year when you got dudes making 60, 55. That's just, boom, stay keeping it. And when you say 33 is keeping it afloat, that's that dumb. So he's chilling. No question. He's doing what his pay says he should be able to do. Right there. You know what I'm saying? And I love it. And just maintaining the ship. You don't got to do too much. One touchdown, zero turn. Hey, the defense is doing well. I didn't think they were as good as they were because, you know, when they played against Mastillas, I think that was just hate. You know what I'm saying? No, for sure.

21:29Yeah, for sure. For sure. for sure. So I didn't, I see it now, for sure, but I couldn't, I couldn't

21:39James Harrison:see it then. Yeah. No, because you know, you had your goggles on. You had your Steeler goggles on, just basically like, you know, we're better than them. I don't know how they're going to come in here and beat us, not really just looking from the outside in. So now you're looking from the outside when they're playing a different team, you're looking like, okay, oh, I could actually see how they can get some things done. For sure, for sure. Speaking of Steelers, man, my boy, My guy, Big Ben, I guess he had a little bit of criticism for the vanilla Steelers defense ahead of the Ireland Vikings game.

22:11He said, to me, without studying our defense, it seems like we're purely vanilla defense as it is. It doesn't feel like, to me, we're getting a lot of unique pressures, unique defenses. He said, even I even know I think even Coach Tomlin said today in his press conference, he said something along the lines of situational and circumstances are preventing them from doing things. And I don't know what that means exactly. he added that it is he isn't sure what's preventing Pittsburgh from trying new things but he sure hoped for things to change in the scheme um he suggested blitzing cornerback Jalen Ramsey and unique and utilizing linebackers in different ways so when I came back in um was it 2014 yeah 2014 i was with the bangles in 13 yeah unretired came back they got me to come back when i came back uh dick lavoe was still a d coordinator but they had changed he's dribbling the ball with everything on the line he's driving down the pitch he's facing price hikes and cuts past him carrier contracts tries to block him oh he leaves him in the dust he's at the edge of the He cuts past the nonstop group chat trash talk.

23:33He clears on goal. He shoots.

23:35James Harrison:Goal! Unlimited data for$25 a month forever. Visit your local Boost Mobile store today to get unlimited data with a price that never changes. Boost Mobile. After 30 GB, customers may experience lower speeds. Customers will pay$25 a month as long as they remain active on the Boost$25 unlimited plan. Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts. Why did I search the internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores in various stages of ooze. I can clear my search history, but I can never unsee that. Don't go down the rabbit hole.

24:17James Harrison:Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast. Healthcare just got less painful. Discover a spectacular island destination with crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze. Bahamar, located in Nassau, Bahamas, offers your choice of three luxury hotels. The richly refined Rosewood, the playfully hip SLS, and the stylishly modern Grand Hyatt. With over 45 restaurants, bars, and lounges, Bahamar serves up delicious dining from world-renowned chefs like Daniel Bouloud and Marcus Samuelson. nightlife venues like the new Jean Batiste Jazz Club, and the Caribbean's most luxurious casino.

24:55James Harrison:At Baja Mar, you'll find every pleasure under the sun and one-of-a-kind experiences for the entire family, like Baja Bay, our 15-acre lush tropical water park, interactive wildlife experiences, including our daily flamingo parade, world-class golf, tennis, spa, and so much more. Visit BajaMar.com today and discover a vacation destination where memories are made for a lifetime. Bahamar. Life spectacular. That defense. Okay. And when he says it's vanilla, that is a true statement. They changed the defense to make it easier to learn and understand so that players could play sooner. So with the true Dick LeBeau fire zone, there is a real-life learning curve.

25:46Like, you could be in the defense that has you blitzing free, no responsibility, and they motion, and now you're locked up man on number three. But that's like a single nuance that you have to know. And every defense has one weakness. When you go and you try and change things to make it easier for player A or B to play, you create other weaknesses and gaps in the defense no no for sure for sure i think what they're running into with guys being out of place people not being covered is they're changing things so much to try and make it simpler but they're adding more gaps and holes to the defense

26:35James Harrison:in the process yeah do you remember the defense because i i can speak on that when i came in there in 2017, you were there too. And the way that the fire zones were and just the communication-wise, I've been in, it was good for me because I've been in being able to be, it was different, it was simple, it was vanilla, like you said, but it was easy because everybody, you could be able to understand some stuff. Like you had to, communication, you had to be able to, in communication with the linebackers because the defensive backs, the safeties and the linebackers, if there's motions, there's going to have to be communications.

27:09James Harrison:People have to start covering people. You could turn from a, like you said, a blitzer with no responsibilities to garden three, to garden two. You know what I'm saying? So having that communication is big. And when Coach Tomlin is saying that we're calling vanilla things, they're just simplifying, like just basically like cover twos and just not like everybody's standing in the simplified spots. But that's making other positions be able to is errors. You know what I'm saying? It's making room for error. There's too much gray. Like you're saying, there shouldn't be gray. You should be able to do this player.

27:39James Harrison:player A can do this, player B can do this. But if you start saying, nah, this dude is in this position, we're gonna start trying to move it and make these changes, it makes too much gray. I just like when you, like you said, this is what it is, this is what it is, and you gotta be able to communicate that and stand on it instead of being able to, nah, they can't make this play, we're gonna start moving and shifting things around. I don't, it creates confusion. Yeah, well, what it does is, especially for when I got back, even go to last year, the playoff game with, was it Baltimore last year? Was that last year with Baltimore playoff game we had?

28:19Was that Steelers playoff?

28:21James Harrison:No. The year before?

28:26James Harrison:The Steelers? The last time they played the playoffs, Brody, didn't? They played the Ravens or something, didn't they? No, they played the Browns. Are you sure? or was it the last game of the no because lamar was playing so it must have been the last game of the season i don't know if it was a playoff game because we normally play the yes january they got beat by the ravens in the wild card game okay i'm watching that game and i'm trying to figure out what's going on and the outside linebackers that's playing on the end they're crashing down and the triple option to get to the fullback where normally you play and you play you play quarterback to pitch what they had us do when we did is we actually just ran down to smash the quarterback is what coach LeBeau changed it to when I saw the linebackers the outside linebackers smashing down to try and get to the dive I knew it was in trouble they had changed it to something that I didn't even recognize like I even tweeted out like why are our outside linebackers crashing down on the dive like now you got Lamar out here free and you got a safety coming down full speed and you think he ain't gonna be able to get loose or pitch it off or whatever it may be so that's like one of those things that that i saw even from when i after i was gone that had changed you know and like i said when i came back i'm sitting there i'm like yo what's going on they're like yeah we had to we had to simplify it we called it dumb it down we they said they had to simplify it to make it easier for you know guys that they wanted to play now to be able to play where before the learning curve was at least a year if not two before you could understand the whole concept of you know dictable defense no i i get that but i i would respect that i i like the way that you said it about if you have a same coach that's there for a long time that's creating a system that the player is going to have to eventually it's going to take you a little learning curve to learn it but once you get it it's what the defense is there's not going to be any great.

30:22James Harrison:There's no mistakes there. I think that you got to take that time to get that learning curve in. But I know coaches like this, no, this young dude, he's good. We're going to need to get him out on the field. No matter if he knows how to really handle this read option the correct way, we're just going to take quarterback every time. And then somebody else is going to try and simplify it. Yes. And that process, you mess up everything else that comes off of that. So now you got to adjust this and you got to adjust that. So now the safety that's supposed to be you know doing something else now he got to come down and take care of that so now you're really you're trying to fix one thing here and one thing there but you're really adjusting sometimes the whole defense from it or at least half of it i think that that should go back to at the end of the day too with with that like they would have to just do a better job of training camp installs you know what i'm saying making sure these things are getting drilled making sure these things are getting worked on like just the simple the simple things you know i'm saying If you have dive, if you don't have dive, like these are the core values of the defense.

31:21James Harrison:This is what we have to do. You know what I'm saying? Like the two motioning dudes around, like figuring out that stuff. So that all starts, I think, at training camp too. But making sure like now just the time that they're using, like, no, we're going to make it easier just being able to get out there. I don't like that particular way to do it. Yeah. Still is in Ireland, baby. So still is. Who they got? What do you say? Who they got in Ireland? Vikings. Vikings. talking about the vikings we're gonna go ahead and beat them down over there you know how it go man that's just that's just what we do anyway the stillers uh beat writer they hinted at a renegade surprise in in ireland i don't i don't know who's in control of this renegade surprise but don't surprise me again like y 'all did against seattle and play it while seattle about to kick the ball off so they could be hype as hell.

32:14Please. Play it during our

32:16James Harrison:kickoff team. Yes. Our kickoff team. No, no, no, no. It was Seattle's kickoff team. No, I'm saying, but we need to play it during our kickoff team. They need to play it on a third on defense right before it come up or a fourth, something like that. You don't want the crowd screaming and hollering when the offense is on the field. You don't want day kickoff team getting hype while they're about to kick the ball off to us and all they doing is running down there with their hair on fire 100 miles an hour trying to knock somebody's head off. Yep. Yep. You got to know the vibes. You got to know the time to play it.

32:57James Harrison:Please. During our kickoff. No question. Hey, let's get over here to your Browns though. Let's go. Let's go. Dan Campbell, baby. He said the Browns have the best defense they have faced to date. Campbell said that Detroit's offense hasn't faced a defense as good as Cleveland yet. You see what they did to Green Bay? This defense is real. This is probably the best defense we've faced to date. What do you think of that statement? This is what I'm saying. this is a smart coach. Dan Campbell, he knows the Browns are, no bulletin board material here. He's trying to rub the ego. You know what I'm saying?

33:46James Harrison:He knows stroke it. Stroke the ego. Tell me how good I am. Tell me how good I am. So now the Browns defense goes in there trying to chill. No. I love it though. Dan Campbell's a great coach. He's speaking facts. The Browns defense is playing amazing. And I want them to continue to play with their head on fire, knowing that they're coming in against now, Jabril Gibbs and Montgomery. You know what I'm saying? With those two headed monsters that can really tote the ball. So, I mean, I respect everything that Dan Campbell say he's speaking facts. But at the same time, he's speaking to his team, knowing what they have on that side of the ball, what they have with their running game and what they're trying to bring to the game.

34:21James Harrison:So I think it's going to be a big time, a really good game with the Browns defense coming in there with playing at such a high level. Everybody making plays in all the all the different levels. But Dan Campbell is basically speaking like, you know, I know they're good. I know they're good. But talking to his team, he's ready to come out there and like try to establish their dominance because they're both physical teams. Like that's the thing. It's going to be line versus line, D-line versus D-line, D-line versus offensive line. Both of them are going to be trying to establish their dominance. So I think it's going to be just a really good game to watch.

34:53James Harrison:Oh, yeah, no question. Like, we do the same thing. You go ahead and Coach Kyle would tell us, like, yeah, you never give them bulletin board material. You be respectful. You stroke their ego. You give them all the comments, all the compliments that you can. And what we're going to do is go out here and prepare to try and destroy them. He is a – yeah, he's a coach that was a player. He knows how it goes. Yeah, for sure. You know what I'm saying? We're going to respect them. You know what I'm saying? Give everybody respect because that's what they deserve. They're an NFL team. They're coming out there, putting their boots on.

35:34James Harrison:They're going to do this regardless if I say anything like, no, the Browns are like, we're going to come out there and run over them. Now I'm giving them some reason to extra fire? No, let me tell them how good they are. Just come in here thinking it's sweet, and then we're going to bust your ass real quick and then go about our business to the next one. And I think that's what kind of happened with, you know, Green Bay. They went in there thinking, oh, it's Cleveland, and we go, you know, we're going to go in here and do what we do and not thinking they really about to be in for a fight, and they ended up losing the game because they didn't realize how capable the defense was.

36:09James Harrison:You remember your man was talking about, oh, they was going undefeated before they played the Browns the whole season. They didn't just disrespect us. He wouldn't disrespect the whole league. Whole league. You got to fight for your life for the next 14 weeks. Brother. Because of something you said in week two. You know what I'm saying? How about you go? And then the first week after you said it, they done smacked up on you. Bakao. Wow. A couple more. Yeah, 12 more of them. Like, what are you talking about, man? That's just out of control, man. Got to watch your mouth sometimes, man. No question.

36:44Speaking of defense, man, Kyle Helminton, defended Baltimore Ravens coordinator, or today saying the sky is not falling. They're only three games into the season. Helminton said it's unfair to put all the blame on him when there are 11 guys out there on the field and they're playing their hearts out and he puts us in the right positions. it's it's just a matter of us doing the right stuff the ravens what do you think he's saying he's saying what we were saying before he's saying what we're saying man um player the

37:22James Harrison:thing i love about kyle hamilton trash you're playing bad and i'm a scott on live your man is catching the ball and i think kyle hamilton is saying how you gonna call on the coach when we're getting beat. We're not in the right spot. Somebody's running against them. Every play that shows us on the tape, somebody's not in position. There's nothing that coach could do about that other than be on the field. If somebody knocks me out of my gap, what the hell coach gonna call that's gonna make me better to be in my gap? You know what I'm saying? So I think Kyle is taking the player, the responsibility of like end of the day, we're out there.

38:02James Harrison:We're not communicating right. If we were on the right page and if we were looking at the place and everybody was in their position and somehow we were going to beat, then that's a whole different situation. But if they were just putting us in a position to win. If they were in the defense, then yeah, go ahead. Throw that on the coordinator. But you're talking about guys being there, just not making the play. Or guys totally blowing an assignment and not being where they're supposed to be. Like you said, that's the 11 guys out there. That's the 11 guys out there. That has nothing to do. I mean, Baltimore is currently 32nd in total yards, 30th in run defense, 31st in pass defense, and 31st in points allowed.

38:43Like, they're dead last. Like, I don't know what else you could say. Like, that's – and when you – like I said, when you watch the games, it's not that they're, you know, they're just getting, you know, out of position. They're hitting weaknesses in the defense. fans, it's nothing like that. They're getting beat, pushed around, missing tackles, missing assignments. Like at some point you got to go out there and do your job. Hamilton also added, he said, I feel like sometimes Ravens can be a little spoiled, just like the amount of success this franchise has had. We lost five games in 2024 and the world is about to end.

39:25Do you think Ravens fans are, I guess, spoiled by the success?

39:31James Harrison:I mean, for the last, since Lamar Jackson's been there, they've won a lot of games. You know what I'm saying? I mean, their playoff success hasn't been great, but we're to the point now when we know the Braves is going to be good, how far they're going to get in the playoffs. Can they beat the Chiefs? Can they beat the Bills? They've always been an AFC since Lamar Jackson's been there. So I can see them getting comfortable, but at the end of the day, the players got to walk into the stadium and win the games. so like if you're not performing to a high level and you're giving up you have the 31st ranked defense in a lot of categories that's not on the fans you know i'm saying they have a reason to be like this is like if you're like 15th or 10th or something like that and they're like man come on man we remember we were number one bro last who like they got they got calls to pause and be like you got to make some tackles you got to make like spoiled no no listen man y 'all did last if not second to last in every category that you got defensively right now so it's not about being being spoiled it's about y 'all playing like absolute trash and they're they're they're they're upset dude i remember like you said i remember when we was in you know when i was with the stillers from 2007 when i started until 2012 we went 1-1-5-2-1-1 that was our defensive ranking dude when we were five we were like bro we are trash we like bro we asked like what are we doing out here man and now you know that was a five it's not a situation like that and the crazy thing is like some of the fans were saying the same thing but we was a five-ranked defense like that no no that now that right there is that right there is when they could be a little what would he say what was he saying the fans are a little spoiled yes that's when you're a little spoiled If you go from 1-1-2-5, man, what y 'all doing out here?

41:22James Harrison:Spoiled. If you go from 1-1-31. You could ask SRT. We was like, bruh, what's going on? Like, we trash. What's going on, bruh? And we really thought we was trash. We like, we five. Like, what's going on? That's a standard, bruh. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, that's a standard, though, that y 'all got to set. That's lit. Oh, man, man. No question. That's like, bro, that success that like just, you know, even when I came in, that was just what it was. Like my OGs, you know, Jason Gill and Joey Porter, like this is what it is. This is the standard. Like and they went out there, did it, showed it, worked it from off the field to on the field.

42:06And everything that they did was in pursuit of a championship, dude. Like, do you sense that Baltimore's championship window might be starting to close here?

42:15James Harrison:I don't think that it's starting to close I think that Do you think the fans may think it's starting to close then? I think the fans may start I think the fans are just worried about right now They still got Lamar As long as you got Lamar they got a chance But I think that the defense They ain't happening dude They got Lamar and look what's happening They can't get over how bad the defense is The defense Like I said with Kyle Hamilton I know he's a baller And I know that they have players, it's not the players. The players have to play better. And if they don't start playing better, it's going to continue to show and I don't think it's nothing that the defensive coordinator can do.

42:52James Harrison:So I think that these dudes got to start physically, individuals, each 111 start playing better, looking at the tape, making sure that they make these plays. So, I mean, I'm not going to root them out, but at the same time, I mean, I'm not, it's not looking good. Listen, any time you You're going to root them out. Waste the talents of Lamar Jackson. It's not like every year it's going to be the same. He's going to start to decline at some point. And you need to be able to take advantage of that. You know, you're not going to have those same 53 guys on the roster each year. And when you lose one guy at this position or that position, that was a key, you know, role player.

43:36That can be the difference between you getting in the playoffs, not getting in the playoffs. winning the Super Bowl, not winning the Super Bowl. I think it's a little bit of a window starting to close, especially if they cannot fix that defense because it's almost like it doesn't matter what he does. If they don't score every possession, they're not going to be able to win because the defense is dead last in everything and can't stop nothing. Like, yeah.

44:09James Harrison:No, you're right. If the defense doesn't improve, they don't stand a chance. A thousand percent. I'm saying, do you think they can improve is the question. Do you think they will improve is the question. Do you? That's the hard thing. I think, I don't know who they get to play next. I think they need a game that is like one of those easier games. Like, yo, we got to fight a little, and then go out there and have tremendous success. I think it'll give them some confidence, but you're just like the missing tackles thing is hard. That's something, I mean, I know it's early. I hope they don't fix it, at least before they play the Steelers twice.

45:08Like, that's it. Like, I'll tell you what. They play the Chiefs this week, right? I think they play the Chiefs this week. And Kansas City, all right? So, this is what I'm going to do. Or this is what I'm going to say. Dude, there's no way they shouldn't beat Kansas City. But if they lose that, they ain't going to get it fixed this year. If they win that, they got a possibility of getting fixed this year.

45:45Joe, where you at? Joe, you hitting mute. Yo, yo, yo.

45:52James Harrison:You hitting mute, bro. Oh, no. I'm looking like, what is he? My bad. My bad. I thought you was miming. No, I was.

46:05James Harrison:Okay, my bad. My bad. My bad. No more mute. No more mute. I was trying to say, I'm trying to figure out how the game is played out, though. You said they played the Chiefs. I heard you clearly, though, Debo. Me and you, we never lost. I want to see how the game plays out. I want to see what the defense looks like, what they can do against Patrick Mahomes, if they can create some sacks, if they can get some turnovers, if they can just be in their gaps, that they just don't have people running around like scot-free. You know what I'm saying? Like just play trying to get on a – have a good game as a defensive team.

46:38James Harrison:No bust, just looking fluid, looking like they're running some stuff. So, I mean, offensive-wise, like we said, but that's the thing too with the Ravens. Playing against – it's Patrick Mahomes and it's the Bills for Lamar Jackson. I think during the regular season, he's going to ball out regardless. I think he's going to hoop because that's just what he does. I just want to see when the game gets close, is it tight at the end, the fourth quarter? who's going to make those plays, whose defense is going to make those stops. Because I don't think it's going to be a blowout. You know what I'm saying?

47:05James Harrison:I think that these two teams, they're really, really capable. Once you get to the fourth, that's what's going to determine what happens in the game. Hey, got a question. Yes. Remember a dude named Orlando Brown Jr.? Yes, I do. Well, he said his welcome to the NFL moment came from you. Let's take a listen, bro. And I see him dip low, and he lit my big ass up. What was your welcome to the NFL moment? People never expect to hear this, but I got T.J. Watt one-on-one all game.

47:59James Harrison:Speed data. Speeds will be lowered. Coverage not available everywhere. Visit store or boostmobile.com for details. Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts. Why did I search the internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores in various stages of ooze. I can clear my search history, but I can never unsee that. Don't go down the rabbit hole. Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast. Healthcare just got less painful. Discover a spectacular island destination with crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze.

48:42James Harrison:Baja Mar, located in Nassau, Bahamas, offers your choice of three luxury hotels, over 45 fine dining and nightlife venues, John Batiste's all-new jazz club, the Caribbean's most luxurious casino, and one-of-a-kind experiences for the entire family, like our 15-acre tropical water park, wildlife sanctuary, world-class golf course, and so much more. Visit Bahamar.com today. Played my ass off. I was out there snapping. But early in that game, like the first series, pulled around on a toss crack, and I see Joe Hayden, it's me and him. I'm just kicking out the corner. And I see him dip low, and he lit my big ass up.

49:18James Harrison:Man, I was seeing stars tingly on the right side, and it was right in front of Mike Tomlin. I'll never forget. Cause I'm looking at, I'm pulling, I'm like, man, it's a five foot 10 corner. What the hell is this dude gonna do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He hit me so hard. And that was like, for me, that was like a wake up call. Like, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if I've been caught slipping like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Debo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Debo. You heard it. You heard it. I live waste, Debo. Come on, man. Come on, hey, got you one. Okay. I'm trying to tell you, that's the one thing I...

49:57James Harrison:You remember it? I definitely remember that, bro. I lifted his ass up so good right in front of Coach T. Same foot, same shoulder. I need that. Hey, on the way in, though, what was you thinking? I'm thinking he thinks I'm slipping. He thinks he's going to fold me. I got something for his ass. That's what I'm thinking. And I'm in front of the bench. Yeah. I'm like this. you get same foot, same shoulder. I need all that. Deebo. Yeah, see, he was hoping you wasn't going to come in there with that. He was probably looking for the go-ahead, swallow you up, just grab like that. Just go ahead. Yes. Cool.

50:36James Harrison:Whoa, whoa. I said swallow you up. Whoa, whoa. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Pause. Pause, admirable. Admirable pause. No question. But Deebo, I'm trying to tell you, this is the one thing that you always said, that the coaches would say this too, like everybody got something dirty to their job. Everybody got something dirty. And if you got the, if you the end man, you got a nub in and this crack replace, you got to replace. If there's a pulling edge, you got to come set that edge. And I want to, I respect it. I love being the cover corner, but at the same time, I'm not afraid to come hit. Like that's what football is.

51:11James Harrison:Ever since we was a kid, we're trying to boom, like I'm trying to catch somebody slipping or anything like that. So now I'm like, all right, bet. These are big dudes, whatever. They come around the corner, but I'm not going to do it. I don't have to do it every single play because I'm a corner. But when I do have to get my hat dirty, I'm going to come in this joint and get my hat dirty. And that's why I love people on my team. They respect it because I love tackling. You know what I'm saying? I never duck contact. Oh, no question. You got to come in there. You got to come in there one of them times, at least early, and you got to give them what they looking for or what they ain't looking for.

51:45They thinking you going to come in there and do a shake. Uh-uh. You come in there and raise on him? Now that next one, don't come in there like that. He go dive at you. No, no, Debo.

51:55James Harrison:No, no, no, no, Debo. I want no more parts of Orlando now. He would have came and smacked me, but I had to get my one-off on him for sure. Oh, man. I want no parts of Orlando now, brother. No, no, no. I gave him that one early. The Eagles, man, they going down to Tampa. Baker Mayfield said traveling early won't help the Eagles with the heat. What's the hottest game you ever played? What's the hottest weather you ever played in? Man, I could just say the hottest weather I ever played in had to be when I was at the University of Florida during training camps at Florida. Okay. Training camps at Florida was the hottest weather I've ever been in in my life.

52:39James Harrison:Had to be in the hundreds for show. And you would see, you would just look out, Debo, and you would just see, like, you'd be looking at your homie. But if he was, like, 10 yards away from you, it didn't look like it was you could see heat waves in between you know what i'm saying i was like this what the fuck is that and the coach the coach maria be like yeah that's hell i'm like oh my god and you'll just be standing there sometimes you wouldn't know why you were so exhausted because you'll just be drenched your socks just mushing everything down to your shoes yeah down to your shoes just your shoes are wet i'm like this i didn't do nothing in the water it's hot out here and then you got to change your socks because it's like you have literally drenched wet and you're just getting, the exhaustion that happens, you could just be standing there and just sweat running down your body.

53:25James Harrison:And it's humid, the humidity. It's just that heat that when you step outside, it's just sweaty and muggy. So like Florida Gator, camp, heat, nothing like it. And we was on turf. Oh, oh, oh my, yeah. Yes. Oh man, that's crazy. Like your feet are on fire too, they're burning at the bottom. Yes. That's like training the AZ, dude. Like literally standing on ice in between reps to cool your cleats off because your feet is burning. Like you can't do it no other way, dude. It don't happen. I don't know if, I don't know why you would travel early just for the heat. A day ain't going to adapt you. Right, right.

54:08What we would do is when, you know, we had a game that was supposed to be like warm or something. You just go to the indoor, turn the, blast the heat up. Then, you know, you adapt that way. That way you get a whole, you know, you get a whole week of trying, especially, you know, up north. It's cold, you know, whenever you're going down there, you know, a little in between the seasons. So throw you inside, throw the heat up. Exactly. The indoor facility. Exactly. Yeah. Unless they just wanted to go early because you down there in Tampa, you know. Oh, no. That's the opposite, Deebo. I don't know.

54:46Coach might want to go early. Everybody ain't playing physically the game. Keep the main thing.

54:53James Harrison:Keep the main thing the main thing. Yeah, you keep the main thing the main thing. But you and I both know that some people don't always keep the main thing the main thing. I know, I know. That's why I would have brought them down last minute. Last minute. I'm bringing it down late as possible. Y 'all going to get a good night's sleep. We going to land, have a good night's sleep. Then we go pop up and play this game. Good little food. Good little meeting. I ain't giving you no free time, dude. No. Bad check, dude. I'm bad checking. Bad check. I'm bad checking. Listen, man. I'm going to tell you.

55:26So I went. And we go out to California, dude. And we leave early. I'm like, dude, why are we leaving early, dude? Like, we was there for like two or three days before the game. I'm like, yo, I do not like this at all. And curfew. You go curfew me on a day that you wouldn't even curfew me at the crib. So why you go? It ain't like I'm going nowhere. I just. The fact that you just told me I couldn't even if I wanted to. It's the principal. Yeah. It's the principality. The principality. I don't like that. And when you go Cali the other way, you get time. So you could actually, you know, afford to leave a little later.

56:15I would think, you know, but I don't know. But that was the only time. Actually, that's the only time I've ever went early for a game. With the Cali trip? Yeah. That was with Cincinnati. But any other time, we don't go early. We go at the normal time. make sure you get yourself in bed early. That's it.

56:41James Harrison:I think we did the same. We tried to go. I think we went out there. I think we might've went the day early, but the crazy part, we only went a day early, but we kept the time, the same time. Like we left, like, like, so we would go to sleep. We were acting like we were still in like Pittsburgh while we were in LA, like the times and with the curfews and with the sky. So we, nobody would really like throw it off. So when you got out there, you kind of tried to go to sleep. Same time, like it was literally like we were still there playing at a four o 'clock game instead of being one. Something like that.

57:15James Harrison:However they did it. But the math mathed up so we didn't change our time clock in our head at all. It was actually dope. Yeah. For sure. For sure. So Shane, is that Stichon? He said Matthew Stafford is probably one of the best to ever do it. do you think Stafford is a hall of famer?

57:44I, I do.

57:45James Harrison:I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I'm going to give it to my, to my bulldog. He won us. This is the thing people always say, but he got him a super bowl too. So for everybody else's stats, but just me as a, watching him throw the ball, what he did all of those years in Detroit, I'm not going to knock him for not being able to win playoff games or make them go deep into spots in his career. I don't think that's his fault. I think that he had him and Calvin Johnson, his numbers and the way that he performed and the way he fought through injuries and the way that he basically led Detroit was kind of the only bright spot out there for a long time.

58:21James Harrison:I don't think that's his fault. And then for him to be able to go to the Rams in that year, go win a Super Bowl, being able to show like if I do have a squad with me, if I am surrounded by great players, you know, same with defense, offense, coaching staff, I'm not the reason why we weren't successful. You know, I think he was there for a little bit longer in Detroit that I think he would if he wouldn't went somewhere else, he could have more Super Bowls. Maybe not, but it's seen that he did go somewhere, win one. And with his numbers, with the way that I see him just throwing the football, with his numbers from the eye test, he looks like just all the different angles, all the different passes he can complete.

58:59James Harrison:I'm a fan of his. I played him in college. He played in Georgia. I was at Florida. So I've been watching his career ever since he got drafted. So he's definitely, in my eyes, just his consistency, longevity, great dude stayed out of trouble been a consistent leader you know if you got Matthew Stafford he's not going to be in the press he's not going to do any drama he's going to bring football he's going to be a great quarterback he's not going to do anything to uh make your franchise to to down your franchise or make them any stain on it so I respect him I really really like Matthew Stafford I think that he's a he's a hall of famer and I don't think he's done yet I think he's still gonna play he's still got a couple more years left and uh yeah for sure I definitely think Matthew Stapp's a Hall of Famer?

59:40I don't know if I'll say he is or isn't a Hall of Famer. I'm just not 100 % on his total body of work, especially when he was in Detroit. I think he had Calvin. That's a big help. But I don't know. It feels like now that if a quarterback goes and wins a Super Bowl and has the eye test of numbers, then, you know, it's like he's automatically a Hall of Famer. You know, it's not, you know, yes, you have a great run here and there like he, you know, he did with LA. You have quarterbacks that, you know, do the same thing, have a, you know, have a couple great runs, you know, get a Super bowl. Um, and now, you know, it's, you know, it's hall of fame.

1:00:44I think it has to be like, like more to it. Like, did I fear that player when, you know, was, was I concerned about that, that player? Like when, you know, you play certain quarterbacks, you're like, okay, we know that we got to make sure we don't let him beat us. Like we gotta, we gotta play tight. We got to secure our tackles. And then there's some quarterbacks. You're like, you know what? Wait for your opportunity. At some point, he go hit you in the face with the ball. You know? So I don't know if just, you know, one, two, three, you know, years of a good run, great run, whatever it may be, is Hall of Fame.

1:01:30I just feel like I'm not saying this about any particular one person, but I just feel like it's getting easier to get into the Hall of Fame. It's like some of it's a Hall of Fame. Right. It's really getting a little watered down. Like Deion Sanders was saying, Like they need to have a different room for, you know, guys that are those, you know, first ballot type guys or something like that. Because, you know, right now it seems, you know, if you, you know, if you're like a head coach and you got to win a record, you got to, you got a Super Bowl. Now you're Hall of Fame, you know.

1:02:14James Harrison:So I know what you're saying. You want, you're not trying to get, just let everybody go home. Is this more and more quarterbacks with a Super Bowl? My thing is this. Did you change the game? Did they fear you, respect you? Did they have to do everything like it was game plan to stop you? Or was it a situation where, you know what, we need to stop this? Like you go into a game and you're like, you know what, hey, we're not going to let this running back beat us. we're going to stop the run and they're going to have to use their quarterback and he's going to have to throw them into a win that's things that we would do especially like under dick lebow we know that they pass the ball great whatever it is okay we're going to do everything we can to double the stars you you know what i'm talking about you double this receiver we're going to take them away and make them have to beat us either running the ball which they're not going to do or using a different receiver so my thing is if they didn't game plan for you like that and now you have the numbers to go with it you impacted the game maybe you changed the game you know what i'm saying heinz ward they chines ward changed the game they made crack back rules because of Hines Ward.

1:03:42Okay? Yeah. Like, in a time where they weren't passing like now, right, that was a person that they had to game plan for. Hines was going to do catch that rock and still bust your middle linebacker in the mouth. Yeah. Like, players like that is like, okay, yeah, I can see that right there, the total body of work. But coming in, you know, two, three.

1:04:14James Harrison:I think the Hall of Fame talk is a really good talk about just how we think people should be able to get in. You know what I'm saying? Like, is it on not only a couple of runs, like you said, different rooms and not first ballot Hall of Famers. Those do differently. When is he ever going to, could he ever get into the hall? Fourth ballot, fifth ballot. You know what I'm saying? There's definite levels to the first ballot Hall of Famer. Look at Terrell Owens. You take Terrell Owens and you take his numbers and you put everything up there and you erase his name. First ballot. Because he was Terrell Owens and the reporters and all the other stuff didn't like the dude.

1:04:58They got this is their chance now to, oh, I ain't like him. So I'm going to get my get back. I'm going to hold him out. no there's no way like it's no way he ended up he ended up getting in but that's exactly but that's what i'm saying the people that are making these judgments they have their own personal vendettas of their own with different players to oh this is my time to go ahead and assert my dominance now i can get i could get some revenge for whatever it is that it may be you know look at um ab hey look brother i look at ab i was about to say ab will not ab will not i do not believe ab will get in first battle i don't believe i don't you know i believe it will be another deal situation where which if he gets in she is if he gets in think about this guys voting for it now if you cut no that's what he's saying his numbers there you take out all the off field yes you take the all the stuff that wasn't actually football out of it and you just look at his work his numbers first ballot yes and what are we talking about like yes a thousand chances are he may not see it until it's way way past that way he's he's not going to see it

1:06:23James Harrison:He might get senior category. Since they did it to T.O. And he was on the field and they gave him like second or third. A.B.? I don't. They beat? Well, like we both just said. T.O. was way longer than second or third. No. What was T.O.? What was T.O.? They had him waiting. They had him waiting years, bro. It had to be like 10 years. T.O. What how many times was it that T.O. What ballot? Let me find the ballot he got in. Yeah but you say so I know T.O. waited a couple of ballots but you say. He waited more than a couple bro. He literally just got in not even what five six years ago right? Well if you got in five but don't you got to wait you got to wait at least five once you get once you retire.

1:07:20No, I'm saying like how many ballots he went through.

1:07:22James Harrison:Oh, you say he went through five ballots. He ain't getting into the third. Third, okay. Third ballot, yes. He should have been first off Rip. He should have been first off Rip. We in the same. We in the same. We're looking crazy. He made it to the third. Dude, Calvin first. Calvin first. Calvin first. Calvin first. Calvin first. Calvin clean. Calvin clean. Right. Clean. You know what I'm saying? Like, they liked him. They loved that. Obviously, you're going to get stuff for that, for sure. Yes. But I'm saying, so what, I mean, I just know as a talent, AB's Hall of Fame, like crazy Hall of Fame.

1:08:08James Harrison:Like that room that Dion talking about Hall of Fame, that other room Hall of Fame. But then when you want to say you're going to add in, like, is it a Hall of Fame, like the way that he acted, whatever, people want to put that in. And so then I'm... It ain't people. It's them 40-something people that are voting. Them 40-something people. That's what I'm talking about. Them people. Get to go ahead and, you know, take their revenge. Like, pure numbers. Come on, stop it. Everybody know.

1:08:38But... Like... It's 1206. At some point, the guys that's in there, they need to be like, you know what? The guys that's in are the guys that's going to vote. other guys in. They no ball. These dudes out here are taking revenge.

1:08:53James Harrison:Yeah, no, no, no. It's Hall of Fame. I got to look at the... I got to check the... Check the voters. Check who the voters are. We're going to check on the voters. Got to. Yeah, for sure. Like, I just... Yeah, dude, I really don't understand it. Anyway, we about out of time. Look here, man. We want to thank y 'all again for joining us on this episode. Debo and Joe please hit the like and subscribe button and watch the Steeler game Sunday at 930 and we'll be back here on Monday Joseph you have anything to say to the people yes I do make sure you come check in on us Monday live we will have the report from what happened on the Steelers game and Island what they look like and my good old brownies hey hey Go ahead.

1:09:46Listen, drink a pint of Guinness. We out.

1:10:02James Harrison:If you're a lineman in charge of keeping the lights on, Grainger understands that you go to great lengths and sometimes heights to ensure the power is always flowing, which is why you can count on Grainger for professional grade products and next day delivery. So you have everything you need to get the job done. Call 1-800-GRAINGER, click grainger.com, or just stop by. Grainger, for the ones who get it done. Discover a spectacular island destination with crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze. Baja Mar, located in Nassau, Bahamas, offers your choice of three luxury hotels, Over 45 fine dining and nightlife venues, John Batiste's all-new jazz club, the Caribbean's most luxurious casino, and one-of-a-kind experiences for the entire family.

1:10:52James Harrison:Like our 15-acre tropical water park, wildlife sanctuary, world-class golf course, and so much more. Visit Bahamar.com today. Across America, money is being abandoned. By taking a few seconds to check lift before your next ride, you can give money a better home inside your wallet. save the money checklist this is an iHeart podcast guaranteed human