In short
Debo and Joe react to three NFL storylines: Steelers vs. Browns, Ravens’ struggles, and Tua Tagovailoa’s postgame comments, plus some discussion of other games.
Guests
James Harrison (host; former Steelers player) and Joe Han Hayden (co-host; former Steelers player). Harrison frames the Steelers as improving weekly and credits defense, special teams, and Aaron Rodgers’ ability to “scramble/direct traffic.”
Key claims
Steelers beat the Browns 23-9; Browns can’t score over 17 points (they’ve been stuck there recently). Notable examples include a first-play big gain to a tight end (36 yards), TJ Watt forcing a punt via a neutral-zone penalty/pressure sequence, multiple long drives ending in field goals (Boswell), a punt return with a blindside block, and DK Metcalf’s 25-yard touchdown. They also argue the Browns’ coaching/game plan failed by relying on Dylan Gabriel throwing 52 times. For the Ravens, they blame Lamar Jackson’s absence/hamstring and offensive predictability (Derrick Henry used repeatedly), plus turnovers and missed opportunities, citing a Rush interception, sack-fumble, and a fourth-and-1 at the 1-yard line. For Tua, they criticize leadership after three interceptions and his media comments about players missing/being late to a players-only meeting.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPre-Game Banter
0:46 to 1:54
Debo and Joe engage in light-hearted banter about their football loyalties.
“I played for the Steelers, so this is what it comes down to for real, Bufo.”
Steelers vs. Browns Overview
1:55 to 3:23
Discussion on the recent Steelers victory over the Browns and its implications.
“You know, of course, the Steelers beat the Browns.”
Game Highlights and Key Plays
3:24 to 6:08
Detailed breakdown of significant plays and events during the game.
“We ain't hit that tight end in I don't know how many games, and we hitting for 36, baby.”
Defensive Strategies and Challenges
6:09 to 8:10
Analysis of the defensive performances of both teams and key challenges faced.
“Immediately, the next possession, we get that third down sack, man.”
Offensive Execution and Performance
8:11 to 11:28
Exploration of the Steelers' offensive execution, player performances, and game flow.
“And that was the part when I was looking at the game, like, end of the day, defense playing good.”
Final Thoughts and Looking Ahead
11:29 to 14:00
Conclusion of the game discussion and insights on future games for the Steelers and Browns.
“So, it's team ball, and things are just going to be like everybody's working together.”
Analyzing the Steelers' Defense
14:00 to 16:56
Learn how the Steelers' defense performed and what strategies worked.
“I know they only rushed 17 times, but we played it better.”
Browns' Offensive Struggles
16:56 to 19:25
Explore the Browns' challenges with their offense and quarterback performance.
“I can feel what it feel like because I just feel so good the day.”
Ravens' Game Review
19:25 to 21:09
Discuss the Ravens' game performance and issues faced during the match.
“Speaking of the division, the Ravens got popped too.”
Ravens' Offensive Strategy
21:09 to 24:50
Analyze the Ravens' offensive strategy and the importance of running plays.
“But they stepped up a little bit versus the Rams.”
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Lamar Jackson's Injury Impact
24:50 to 28:00
Understand the implications of Lamar Jackson's injury on the Ravens' season.
“I can give them that, but they were still playing bad before they got hurt.”
Injury Stories and Player Resilience
28:00 to 29:20
The hosts share personal stories about injuries and resilience in football.
“Cause he, he, he's too, he's too elusive, powerful.”
Tua's Postgame Comments and Team Dynamics
29:20 to 35:10
Discussion about Tua's comments after the game and team accountability.
“Houston and my helmet came and shot down into my eye.”
Leadership Expectations in the NFL
35:10 to 42:00
Exploration of leadership expectations and accountability in NFL teams.
“And your boy Tua, he had a little something to say after the game.”
Discussion on Leadership and Respect
42:00 to 43:15
Explore how leadership dynamics affect team respect and accountability.
“Dude, I could have did better than that.”
Tua's Performance and Accountability
43:15 to 44:42
Critique of Tua's game performance and his accountability as a quarterback.
“If you haven't said this privately first, then in the media.”
Team Camaraderie and Mandatory Meetings
44:42 to 46:16
Discuss the importance of team meetings and camaraderie in building respect.
“Everybody, all the DBs are in there, and we would host it ourselves, and we would have food.”
Analysis of the Jets vs. Broncos Game
46:16 to 47:19
Breakdown of the Jets' offensive struggles against the Broncos' defense.
“But come rookie dinner, Troy is going out.”
Justin Fields' Struggles and Offensive Coordination
47:19 to 49:53
Examine Justin Fields' challenges and the impact of offensive coordination.
“I'm just telling you, that's the only reason.”
Quarterback Expectations and Performance Pressure
49:53 to 52:18
Discussion on the expectations placed on quarterbacks and their performance pressure.
“But also, you got to realize, I believe the offensive coordinator, I think this is his first time being an offensive coordinator.”
Post-Game Altercations and Player Conduct
52:18 to 56:00
Debate on player conduct after games and the implications of physical altercations.
“throwing bad passes for quick outs that are, like, routes on air, I'm sorry, we need to find another guy.”
Emotions and Physicality in the NFL
56:00 to 58:36
Exploration of the emotions and reactions players have after games, especially regarding physical confrontations.
“Is it anything that somebody can say to you that would cause you to do that?”
Upcoming Game Preview and Closing
58:36 to 59:16
Discussion about the upcoming game between Chicago and Washington and closing remarks.
“Listen, tonight, Chicago at Washington, okay?”
Transcript
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0:08Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Han Hayden. Make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you doing, Joe? Man, Debo, I'm doing great, man.
0:25James Harrison:Every teddy, I knew to look at my phone and expect a call. I was look like I said Debo I wanted a good football game you was ignoring me you was sending me you was disrespectful you was real disrespectful you were sending me to the voicemail and everything else make like you couldn't hear the FaceTime I got the first point after the first three tutties you was calling me just trying to just rub it in like I was all brownie brownie brownie I had love for both teams I gotta Debo I gotta watch you I gotta watch you bro I gotta watch you you what you gotta watch me Bufo, I'm just trying to figure out where you're at, you know?
1:06James Harrison:You know, I am. I played for the Steelers, so this is what it comes down to for real, Bufo. I understand now as a fan, as a fan watching the games, I understand how the Steelers fans feel, and I understand how the Browns fans feel. It's a way more chill feeling when you're a Steelers fan because you're expecting, you know what's going to happen, it's real smooth. Browns fans, that just, it was bad. It was just bad balls. So we're going to get into it, but I just know my Steelers vibe, I'm all the way. That shit looked amazing. My Browns vibe, they got things to, there's things to be talked about on that side.
1:44Okay. So there's things to be talked, so you go over here and there's things to be talked about over here is what you're saying. Okay. Debo, now you listening. Okay. So what I want to do is go ahead, I guess, you know, and get into the game, baby. You know, of course, the Steelers beat the Browns. What was that? 23 to 9? Yeah. Yes. Yes.
2:13James Harrison:Browns still can't score over 17. Hold up. What? What you doing, boy? This boy, dude, every time we play the Browns, I got to remove everything that's orange out of here. This dude pulls down his pants and starts pissing on stuff. Man, Joe, give me a minute, bro. You talking about your dog? Oh, my God, dude. See? Hey, what you doing? I'm on a live podcast. Get down before I whip your ass. And you done pissed on my shelf, too, boy. And Deebo's looking at me, and they mad at me about not being an old guy. You're going to talk about whipping me for pissing on orange. Ain't you the one that slammed that Browns fan?
2:50And I didn't even know you still had a Cincinnati Bengals helmet. I'm going to piss on that next. Get your ass out of my womb. Go. Go. Get out of here. Debo, get your dog.
3:00James Harrison:Don't slam my dog. Damn. My bad, Joe. Debo, you got to get control of your household, my brother. Hold up. My bad, Joe. That boy was up over there pissing on Orange and all that. See? All right. Anyway, here, let me get back to where I was at. Like I said, the Steelers whooped on the Browns 23-9. And you know what happened? The first play was like foreshadowing. You know, I saw it. First play, we gone ahead. We ain't hit that tight end in I don't know how many games, and we hitting for 36, baby. We hitting for 36 on the first play. They ain't even know what to do. The boy's seven feet tall, so I don't know how they missed covering him.
3:41James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? It was a great play, bro. They motioned him inside. he inserted you know what I'm saying and then they had a new cornerback that we got back there he had a he had a long long day but I look he made some great plays out there long day got a little confused in coverage and your man Washington ran straight down on the seven route wide open so they just busted off first like miss miss coverage Browns let us supposed to play still has made it look easy oh yeah we started out a little bit so So we only got three. We only got three. Yeah. And then we, you know, Cleveland come back and, you know, we think we're off of there on that third down and completion.
4:19But they caught TJ in the neutral zone. So that made it third to five, gave him an opportunity. I think the next one was a 12-yard completion to continue to drive. You know. But, you know, we can do it with Ben, Ben, Ben, but don't necessarily break. Plus, Cleveland, you know, they returned a favor with unnecessary roughness. They wanted to get tough with a little peasy, so they had them stall it out. They had to punt the rock. And you know who we are, man. We the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know? Us. I'm not putting you in this. You understand?
4:54James Harrison:Yep. I just want you to live here. Defenses about the beginning, man. The Browns, at the end of the day, was been but don't break. Steelers been but don't break. Defenses did good. The first two drives, they made sure they had to punt. Flags all over the place. Then we had the, yeah, like you said, we had the punt return. The Steelers had a great punt return, blindside block. I think that he did a pretty good block. I don't think Peppers tried to, you know what I'm saying? That ain't blindside block. He was on his side, dude, and he's turned. Yes, that's what I'm saying. He did the way that they teach him.
5:23James Harrison:Like, you put your back on him, you throw your hands up. So, I think that was a bad call. You know, A-Rod hit DK Metcalf for a couple of plays, but they had to punt. Brown's defense was playing good. at the very beginning, at the beginning of the game too. But you can only do but so much. I mean, I mean, it's okay, Joe. Because I'm hearing a lot more frustration than I am happiness. Because that Jalen Brown sack right there on that first down, to go ahead and put him behind the chains, have him force him to kick that good punt. And you know what happened right then? The second quarter, we started with 11 play drive.
6:00Yeah.
6:00James Harrison:But we ended up settling for a field goal again. That's what you keep saying there. I'm like, 11 play drive was looking good in the red zone. You was getting to the red zone, moving the ball, but it was tough to get it in there. Hey, the pressure was coming. Hey, third down. Immediately, the next possession, we get that third down sack, man. Get up out of there. What happened? We go ahead and drive down the field again, man. It's 10 yards. It's 10 plays, but we end up selling for another field goal. Warren, that's nine. That's bankroll. Shout out bankroll. Bankroll. Bankroll. Bankroll. Bankroll was on that money.
6:38James Harrison:Boom. Do you know what I'm saying? He had a 44, 50, 48. So y 'all got in there doing good, but Boswell was able to knock down a few goals. Okay, good. I'm glad you said y 'all. And then, you know, y 'all. You making me feel some type of way, you know. You know what? Y 'all right before halftime. Y 'all got lucky. Great. 16 plays, 72 yards. And like you say, my defense, still a defense. Little Ben, don't break. Halftime, 3-9. Looks like a close game. It really ain't as close as it is. But I'm going to tell you this, Debo. Going into halftime, though, don't lie. I'm not going to lie. The Darcy Steelers were smacking the Browns coming across the middle.
7:20James Harrison:Like, there was some alligator arms that started coming to it. Hey, the tight end was one of them. Man, he hit my man Joku in his heart. Firm. And I didn't know if he was going to get up. Lost his wind and everything. Then he came back in the game. But then Jerry Judy, some of them, like, he was coming across those middle. He was throwing those passes, Dylan. And you see them dudes, like, looking at the safety instead of looking at the rock a couple of times. So, I mean, I think the Steelers banging, hitting out there was making some of them arms get a little short, getting a little tight, looking for the rock.
7:49Oh, yeah, for sure. But y 'all helped us out on that punt when we came back in the second half, dude. Yes, yes, yes. That right there was a huge turning point, buddy. It allowed us to go down there, score that touchdown. Connor Hayward, 12-yard touchdown. Beautiful thing, man.
8:10James Harrison:Brother, that right there, Debo, was actually beautiful. And that was the part when I was looking at the game, like, end of the day, defense playing good. Both defenses are playing well, you know what I'm saying? Like, Bimba don't break. But that's the point when Aaron Rodgers was scrambling, making plays. It's like, I don't give a damn. I'd rather the ball be in his hands than Dylan Gabriel because it's just like their offense, he's going to make something happen. He's not going to mess it up, but he's also going to give us a reason to win. Like there's a difference between not messing it up, zero, you see, right, Dylan Gabriel, zero touchdowns, zero picks.
8:44James Harrison:That's not losing, but that's not winning. You know what I'm saying? Like Aaron Rodgers, if the ball's in his hands, you just feel like he's scrambling, directing traffic, told him like, no, no, no, go back this way. Hey, we're spinning that joint. beautifully touchdown so that that part right there looked sick and that's when i was looking at the steelers like this you know what guys obviously they have the defense they have now the running back you got game well he was toting it and warren was toting the ball so he had a run game he had the receiver uh dk metcap going crazy big washington getting him involved it just looked like an overall team it was a team effort even though they didn't make it and they made it to the red zone a lot in the first half, was able to get field goals, weren't able to score, but just consistency.
9:31Yeah, because after that touchdown, they ended up going down and scoring a field goal, made it 6-16. But again, you know, we the Pittsburgh Steelers. We ain't going to do nothing halfway. And that man, that man, that man showed up again. DK Metcalf, 25-yard touchdown. Hey, you know what's so crazy, though? is this cigar is called, the brand is My Father. And that's what we are for the Browns. And the actual name of this one is The Judge. And we judged y 'all wanting and needing, and we whipped that ass. But anyway, let me get back to that good 25-yard DK touchdown that put us up 23-6, man. And again, man, the defense allows a 16-18 play drive, Got two penalties, helped them, you know, extend the drive on positions, points, third down, where we thought we were going to be able to get off the field.
10:30But, hey, man, but don't break. 9-23, I could take that. No, not really, though. They come back out, and we do it three and out, bro.
10:43James Harrison:Three and out. Yeah. This is what I'm trying to say. The Browns defense can only do but so much. Like, we're not saying that the Steelers' offense played amazing, did the best. They could have definitely did better. But, I mean, it's a flow of a game. You're not going to be able to go blow the Browns' defense out. That's a good-ass defense out there. And when they keep giving opportunities back to their offensive side of the ball, and you get nothing, you get Nathaniel. How the hell are you going to win like that? So that's why I'm looking at it like it was a team effort where you know when the Steelers knew.
11:14James Harrison:When they get a stop, it's offense, defense, special teams working together. You get to stop, you're putting the ball in Aaron Rodgers' hands, and you believe he's going to be able to get a touchdown. He's going to be able to get points. He's going to be able to get first downs, move the ball down the field. And then, end of the day, if you don't, Bank Robar's going to knock down a field goal. So, it's team ball, and things are just going to be like everybody's working together. On the Brown side, it just looks like the defense is out there fighting for your life. And if you keep giving somebody love and hooking them up, and they ain't giving you nothing, that's demoralizing.
11:43James Harrison:You can't score at all, like no touchdowns. You know what I'm saying? So, it's just a bad feeling. It's a bad feeling. I mean, you had an opportunity there. Well, not really. Drop passes. Yes, yes. A lot of drop passes. And then we had a chance to really just shut it out. And the field at Acresha helped out the Browns. Man. My dude, lose this footing. Take balls for a whole cleat out the ground. Man, ain't no telling what could happen. What's so crazy, that ain't the worst that field's been. 2007, dude, that field was so bad, the ball got stuck in it straight up. A punt, bro, I swear. Straight up and up.
12:26Like, it was crazy. Plug like a golf shot. Yeah, for sure. And basically, after that, the 9 to 23, we hold strong. It ends there. Game basically over with. But Pittsburgh still is offense. Yes. Listen, hey, they did a better job of run blocking. They protect the quarterback, zero sacks. Miles Garrett only had two tackles, no pressures, no hits on the quarterback. Like, what are you talking about? And that is from our tackle that has been having a down season. He gave up the most sacks out of any tackle in the league, but he didn't get none to your guy. You know why? Because we fly high when the orange in the sky.
13:12James Harrison:You understand? We got 100 yards combined rushing. I'm going to take it. It ain't from one person, but I'm going to take it. And then you know what we did? We got the tight ends involved. Washington was three for 62. He actually had five targets. Okay? Smith was three for 18. Conner had a touchdown for 12. Flyer move had one for 11. Washington was the second leading receiver on the team. That's why he was wide open. They like, yo, he coming out the block. Nah, he ain't just coming out the block. We're going to show you that he can do more than what y 'all think he can do. And now you got to worry about them tight ends.
13:51Now you done gave Aaron more targets. Aaron was greatly effective. You talking 21 or 30, 235, two touchdowns? Huh. Here we go, Steelers. Here we go. Hey. And that defense now. Six sacks. Six sacks. It's X. Hey, listen, we played the run better. I know they only rushed 17 times, but we played it better. Why in the world is what I'm trying to figure out is why they have him pass the ball like 52 times. Why they had that boy pass the ball? You think a rookie go coming? I understand he got a lot of games under his belt and all that other stuff. It's a different thing, you know what I'm saying, when you get to the league.
14:35You're going to have him come in here and think he's going to pass on the Pittsburgh Steelers 52 times, and you're going to win that game. Not to mention that our defense dropped three, four picks that they had in their hands that they should have came up with.
14:46James Harrison:You took the words out of my mouth with that one. But, hey, all in all, we, the Pittsburgh Steelers, is getting better every week. And that's all we need to do is keep inclining so that when we get to that point, when it's elimination time, we shooting off like a rocket. No. That is correct, Debo. The Steelers are good. Aaron Rodgers look better. Everything you said is correct. Getting the tight ends involved, even if they run for 100 yards, it doesn't matter. It's just giving the ball up. Making sure you keep that thing going, no matter if you're giving it to Jalen or Gainwell. Just making sure you got a run game that's effective and just keep handing the ball off.
15:30James Harrison:So they got to make sure that they watch for that. So I'm not mad at the Steelers at all. They did great, and it's looking like they're doing better and better. Like I said, too, how you think Dylan Gabriel, do you expect him to come into the Pittsburgh Steelers? You haven't won it 22 times there, and throw the ball 52 times and win. That's not going to work. And then we drop one, like you said, too, zero touchdowns, zero picks, but it hit about three Steelers upside the head. My man, Junior, Joey Porter Jr. had one smooth. He had one. The defensive end, my man, 51, he had one. It's just a lot of passes that could have easily been picked.
16:08James Harrison:We're not, Junkins ran the ball 12 times for 36 yards. Like we got to get him more opportunities. There's no way that he's going to walk into that game and be able to go against the Steelers. And especially when behind the sticks, when we're letting them dudes blitz, knowing the line's looking crazy, knowing our tackles are having a tough time, blocking Swat, blocking Highsmith, blocking Cam, blocking any of them dudes. You know what I'm saying? So that was not, it was, it was a coaching error. You can't come in there with a game plan and think you're going to win with a rookie quarterback. Well, why are you surprised that it's a coaching error?
16:40James Harrison:I'm not surprised. Coach didn't even know who the hell his backup was. Coach, coach, Debo, Debo, I'm not surprised. I'm just stating what's happening. I understand what you're saying. I'm puffing on a cigar that ain't even lit, but that's how good I feel, Joe. That's how good I feel. I can feel what it feel like because I just feel so good the day. I got two. So now when we put on my Steelers hat, I think that was, that's the ball that we looking for. Like Jalen Ramsey out there making sacks. Everybody communicated. That drew looks, kept them out of the end zone. Obviously it wasn't maybe too hard because the Browns offense wasn't really too effective.
17:18James Harrison:Dylan Gabriel did do a pretty good job, but he could have thrown three picks. Some of his passes were still errant. And I think he's going to be, he's not a bad, he's he's going to be solid. He's going to be good. I don't think the Browns are helping him in any way with his progression of becoming a better quarterback right now. And that's not to say I want, if they push your door. Only two games, three games, whatever it is. No, no, no, for sure, for sure. But I'm saying 52 times versus Steelers, and then the first joint in London, like, handing the ball, that was a better process than this. If they would have came in giving the ball off the jug, he would have had at least 20 carries.
17:51James Harrison:Then that's like, okay, bet you're not trying to set my man back, but you made him throw 52 times. Get sacked six times. He got hit upside the head. 17 times. Like, that's not... So what it came down to, man, is this. Our defense played better than your defense. Because we played against the Browns offense, which is, I mean, it's a professional football team, but it is the Browns offense. It's the same team who hasn't scored more than 17 points in the last 11 games straight. So, I mean, it's to be expected. And I don't see why they would have been able to score 17 points on us, you know? That's just the hard nature of Browns playing the Steelers.
18:36James Harrison:I mean, Debo, I mean, look, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm not here today. I'm not here to argue. I'm not here to argue. I'm here to state how I feel about the Browns situation, and then I'm here to state how I feel about the Steelers. Steelers are looking good, and I would know why. You expect for the Browns to play the Steelers hard, because that's a division game, and every time they come over there, anything can happen. But once the game gets to going and people get to making the plays and you see what's going on in the football field, I was not expecting for the Steelers to get that game away.
19:07James Harrison:They just looked like they were getting warming up, getting their will right, and then next thing you know, A-Rod started doing A-Rod stuff, and that's just not what we had on the offensive side of the ball for the Browns. So, yep, Steelers are leading the division, and it don't look like it's going to be changing anytime soon. No question. Speaking of the division, the Ravens got popped too. But I will say this, watching the game, brother, looking at it, going back and forth in between, I'm looking, the first possession dude in Baltimore comes out there, and I'm like, oh, they're getting back to Baltimore football.
19:46Derrick Henry Wright, Derrick Henry left, Derrick Henry left, Derrick Henry right, Derrick Henry left. They get a holding penalty that stalls them out. They end up settling for three. Okay. Okay. It's looking all right. It's looking all right. L.A. comes out. They move it a little, but they miss the field goal, right? Cool. I'm like, all right, the Ravens getting the ball back. You know, I don't want them to be too sorry, you know, because we still got to at least have a little competition, something good for the fans to see. Don't nobody want to go to the games 21-0 before the first quarter. Over with.
20:25And the Ravens come out there, and your boy Rush throws an interception. And it kind of felt like after that, L.A. was like, yo, y 'all ain't going to one-up us on this. Go ahead, get the sack fumble. Baltimore recover the ball, give it back to them. A. The Raiders defense definitely played better.
20:49James Harrison:They're kidding me. Oh, yeah. They played better. They played better. They played better. I thought Matthew Stafford was going to pick them apart. But like you said, when they had that strip sack, when they were trying to get down there to score, I'm like, okay, look, better Raiders defense. So I had to make sure we get them a little bit of luck because they've been looking the worst in the entire league by far. But they stepped up a little bit versus the Rams. Yeah, they end up going for it, though. That next session, I believe it was fourth. Fourth, and I want to say it might have been one. No.
21:24Yeah, they went for it on fourth down, and they didn't make it. But I think at that point in time, it might have gave them a shorter field. They ended up tying it up 3-3.
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21:37And the Ravens get the ball back, and they just totally forget about Dave Henry. I don't know what happened at the day. They just forgot about what they did the first couple possessions and how it helped them out. And immediately the Rams helped them out too. They just went on ahead, did a quick three and out. So Ravens get the rock back. They like, oh yeah, I done forgot. We got Derrick Henry. So they go ahead and start handing that man the rock again. but again dude on fourth and one they get zero points at the one yard line yes this is when they
22:13James Harrison:did they did they did the tush push on the third down and then your man derrick hambry tried to run it on the fourth down and lost to y 'all dude wow so that right there could have got you you You know, that's three points if you went on ahead and went for it. Because immediately, beginning of the third quarter, the Rams drive on down there. Nine plays, 76 yards, get the tutty. Also, they got help because Puka ended up getting hurt. Yeah, they didn't have to deal with him that whole game. And then your boy Rush, you come out, fumble the ball, give it right back to the Rams on the 21 and they score another tutti I guess they got tired and set him down buddy that was all I guess they could take yeah no for sure they ain't do too much man on the offensive side but like you said I'm blaming that when you know you don't have Lamar Jackson keep handing the ball off Derrick Henry until just keep giving it to him he was eating like you gotta show me something different For sure.
23:25If they don't, you ain't got to really show them nothing different. I think they ended up getting a new office coordinator this year. So the guy that was there last year did what he was doing. I think the new guy there finally was like, yo, I guess we got to run the rock if we're going to have a chance. Even then, it was still 17-3. They had an opportunity. I think it was a fourth down they went for, ended up getting sat. And, you know, from there, Ravens start driving the ball. I believe they turned it over on downs. And, you know, it ain't no more than just under four minutes left. You know, it's basically over with after that.
24:06But the big thing for the Ravens is, I think, for the offense, that first possession, they started getting back to Baltimore football. You know, running Derrick Henry, you know, the way he should, using Derrick Henry the way he should be, you know, the way he should be around or used, I should say. Yeah. And then, you know, the defense, they play better, but you need a little bit more in situational things, I guess, to get done with you, what you're trying to accomplish. I don't think they took as much planning as they needed to try and finish it out. But, and they also, they hurt too. I can give them that, but they were still playing bad before they got hurt.
25:08No, for sure.
25:09James Harrison:For sure. If your offense isn't doing too well, brother, if your offense ain't doing good, your defense ain't doing good, I mean, it's not a good winner. recipe to win games. And your defense is playing really, really bad. You lose your best offensive threat, Lamar Jackson. Right now, they're just trying to stay afloat. Right, they're hoping to get him back after the bye. So that's the only chance they got when you look at it. You know, over the last, what, three weeks, they've been outscored. 98 to 33. Like, you can't win like that. No, Debo. You can't. What is that, 1-5? It's only been one team since they started the new format of 14 playoff teams that made the playoffs.
25:51That was 1-5, and that was Washington in 2020. They started 1-5 and made the playoffs. Ravers ain't making the playoffs.
25:58James Harrison:No, sir. And it's not, like you said, the defense, hopefully they start getting some players back. Lamar Jackson has to come back. Then Lamar Jackson, their offense was, they weren't blowing people out when he was there, and the defense wasn't playing good. So hopefully if the defense can start playing better and he comes back with a flow. How much better you want the defense to play, though? They already number one, Joe. Defense for the Ravens? Oh, I'm tripping. I'm thinking of Baltimore. Sorry. I mean, I'm thinking of Cleveland. Sorry. Yeah, no, I'm talking about the Ravens. Yeah. They're like the opposite.
26:32James Harrison:They're probably 37. Oh, yeah. They're last. I think they're 31 or 32. They got to do. They have a way to get a hold. They have a lot of room of improvement. If they can get better and start tightening it up like they did in this game and Lamar comes back and performs at a high level, they have to win out, though. Like, there's not – when he gets back, they're 1-5. They have to go basically down and undefeated because – Do you think he still comes back if the hamstring is a little iffy? Uh-oh. I think if they keep losing, they lose another – they keep – if it's – his hamstring, it needs to be healed 100 % anyway.
27:06James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? And if that takes another two weeks, another three weeks, and then they're 1-8, then, I mean, what kind of – what is the point? You know what I'm saying? You kind of want him to get back in. If they get mathematically damn near eliminated, then you don't want to risk Lamar Jackson's long-term future for him to just come back in for what? Yeah, I'm with you there. Like, you don't want to have him come back. You are dead last right now and have him going near on a, you know, 80 % hamstring and he go to hit another gear and forbid, you know, God forbid, he tear the thing off the bone or something like that's, that's, you know, that's something that's going to lead into the next year.
27:48The part is not rushing.
27:50James Harrison:Don't rush. Let him get all the rest. Let him recover that thing a hundred percent for sure. Yeah. If they don't, if they don't let him do that, it's going to, it's not going to be, I don't think it'll be pretty. Cause he, he, he's too, he's too elusive, powerful. He's going to, He's not going to think about it. He's going to go to dig to take off to get past somebody, and that's going to be it. You can't go out there and play 80 % the way he plays the game. Yep. You got to be full tilt. No question. So during the coach's pregame warmup. This was crazy. The cornerback wore it. He collided with the tight end, Ogletree, and suffered a concussion.
28:34this boy went into pre-game concussion protocol out for the actual game and then Anthony Richardson he fractured his orbital bone with a band dude like
28:54James Harrison:how do you do that brother you Debo you know how tight them bands are he probably was doing like a little mean hamstring swing up thing and it's about to slip off his foot. He didn't play it out? He didn't play? He didn't play? He couldn't play? No, he couldn't play. Hey, listen, I got a story for you, though. I did that same thing, bro. I blew my orbital in Houston and my helmet came and shot down into my eye. And at the time, bro, I ain't lying. god so i'm like you know how you blink your eyes to try and get you know trying to get them back straight so i'm sitting there and my eye what i didn't know at the time is i blew my orderable so my eye was no longer sitting on that potato chip bone yeah it dropped down so as i'm looking at the stadium at houston i'm seeing four decks i'm seeing you know how they got the scoreboard across the middle.
30:00I'm seeing two of those and then two of those up there. But if I close my right eye, they came to one. So I'm like, they like, you got a concussion. I'm like, I ain't got no concussion, dude. I'm like, I'm just seeing like two of everything, dude. Like, I'm like, I'm seeing two of everything. I'm like, I'm telling you, I'm seeing two of everything. Like, if I close this eye, I could do it. So I go back in, they take me into the, um, they take me into the uh locker room and uh hear the crowd something's happening whatever and um by that time it done got to where it's not separated like this yeah they're close like this and i'm like all right i'm going back out so i go back out and i'm i'm on the side and i you know i asked my i asked my boys i'm like yo y 'all good y 'all need me to come i'm like if y 'all need me I could come back, bro.
30:52I'll come back. And he's like, man, hey, we go be all right, bro. I'm like, I can come back if you need me. What was your eye? What was it looking like, Deebo? Was you looking for it? No, it just, it don't even look like nothing, bro. Okay. It don't even look like nothing. Because it's inside your eye. So they actually go in your eye to do the surgery. Into your eye socket, rather, to do the surgery. so I'm like yo I could come back if y 'all need me to but if y 'all go be all right I ain't gonna come back like help go well we ain't gonna be all right I'm like all right then I'm coming back so what I did is I finished that game with a with a fractured oval so when I would go to hit somebody I would just close my right eye so it'd be one person and then I'd open it open it back up so That's crazy.
31:45So I finished that game. I ended up getting the surgery later, early that next week. And that's when I started wearing the dark visor because I got a scratch on my retina or something. And it was giving me light sensitivity. So I started wearing the dark visor. But, dude, I finished that game and I ended up missing, I believe, the next two weeks after I got it done. But I played a whole. I actually got the bone, bro. I have the bone, the little potato chip bone. I got it upstairs in my refrigerator. I tell them, listen, anything you take out of me, I'm going to need to take with me. Because I got to put that back.
32:24Dude, I got pieces of bone from my back when they did my microdissectomy the second time. I had two of them in nine days. Tebow, you're wild. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, bro. Tebow got bones in the refrigerator. Bro, listen. I was born with it. It's going back with me. It's going back in. No question.
32:47James Harrison:Is your eye good now, though? Oh, yeah. It's good now. It's good now, baby. That was in 2009. That was like two games, 11 or something like that. It was 2011. That was like two games. But that's what I'm saying. So how are you going to put that one back in? Hey, here. I'm just going to put it in my casket. Oh. Yeah. That's it. Okay. So here, hey, here's the crazy thing. So this is, this is going to sound crazy. So when I first started coming back, so they keep you in the hospital for a day and they got to seal your eyes shut. So they come in the next day, they cut the scissor, they cut the two sutures that seals your eye and you're able to open it, right?
33:33The first, oh man, it had to be like two months, maybe a little more. when I would blow my nose, air would come out my eye. Ah, Debo. I swear, bro.
33:47James Harrison:Oh, God. I swear. See, that's... Bro, it was crazy. Yeah, man. That's crazy. Debo, I'm queasy. I'm slander with anything like that. I'm like, my man, Debo, you talking about blowing your nose, you got air coming out of here. That's crazy. I don't know if it's normal or not, but, hey, Anthony, if that happens, it's normal. It happened to me, So just letting you know the first few months you get back, you go to blow your nose. I blow my nose real hard, though. Like, I don't do the quiet. Yeah, no, you got to get it out. I got to get that up out of there. So you know what I'm saying? But yeah, bro, it would blow air out my eye.
34:28And you know how, like, in the morning you wake up, you got some sleep in your eye, and you got to blow your nose? I would blow my nose, dude, and it would blow the sleep. Sleep. Oh, wow.
34:38James Harrison:Debo, that's crazy. Let's go. Bruh. Bruh. That's a sweet. I'm glad you're good now. Shit. Oh, yeah. It took like two weeks for you to have the surgery? It took two weeks before I was back. Okay. They wouldn't let me. I guess it was something about force of something, and they didn't want me. I was trying to go back that week. I'm like, yo, it's fixed. I can see now. Everything's at one. They're like, no, you got to let it heal for a little bit. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you wild, D-Bo. Yeah, man. So the Chargers beat the Dolphins. And your boy Tua, he had a little something to say after the game. Yeah.
35:28Man, just this was his response, man. Let's show it. I think it starts with the leadership. in in helping articulate that for the guys and then what we're expecting out of the guys right we're expecting this are we getting that are we not getting that we have guys showing up to only player only meetings late guys not showing up to player only meeting like there there's a lot that goes into that do we have to make this mandatory do we not have to make this mandatory so so it it's it's a lot of uh it's a lot of things of that nature um that we got to get cleaned up and it starts with the little things like that.
36:07To be clear, you're saying some players were late or missed? Late. Yeah. Hey, man. Look here. Hey, he shouldn't even be answering any questions about that, but other than it just being about the game. I understand he might be a little upset because the defense couldn't hold him for 46 seconds to make sure they didn't get a field goal. I can see that. I can understand that. But your job, if we want to go into it technically, like all the way through, is to score a touchdown every possession. Just as when I was with the Steelers, my first stint of starting, dude, our job is to stop them on every jive.
36:56If we go out there as a defense and we do our job 100 % and we never let them score, then we could point a finger. If you don't go out there and do your job 100%, you can't point no fingers mad about some other stuff. You as an offense, to do your job 100%, you got to go out there and score every play. I know it's unrealistic, but that stops any and everyone from pointing fingers. That's why we as a defense was like, yo we was number five we're like yo we're trash we're horrible right now because if they don't score we can't lose and on top of that we can actually help us win because we can get turnovers and score touchdowns we can actually score what you should have been talking about to him was the second play of the game you threw a pick you gave him a short field they scored a field goal on that and then you come in the next possession and you go three and out and then the defense goes and gets you the football short field you score seven the first possession of the third quarter you throw another pick again another short field another short field and they score a touchdown you're responsible for 10 points you're lost by two take accountability what are you even talking about that for right now and to be honest we knew this was over with week one y 'all having a players only meeting the head coach needs to be gone because now the head coach should have been going in but now you're telling me that the players in the locker room don't even have a player they respect enough to even go to what y 'all decided to do as a player Destroy the whole team, the head coach, and start over.
38:53Hmm?
38:54James Harrison:What do you think? Debo, Debo, I think you're making perfect sense. I'll say this. For one thing, like you said, Tua, you have to be performing at such a high – you're the quarterback of the team. You come out there and throw three fucking picks, and you're talking about people not coming to a players-only meeting. Nobody's respecting you as a leader. For one thing, you're coming out there and it's a players-only meeting. this is getting out to the media because of you. You're making things about people not coming to a players only meeting and now if it's a players only meeting that they're not attending, it's because they don't respect you or they don't respect whoever's throwing a meeting.
39:29James Harrison:These dudes are grown ass men. If you didn't get this meeting time that we needed to do while we're in this facility from fucking 8 to 4, nigga I'm out of here because all this shit you're talking about is not Here's a crazy thing. He said it was online.
39:44They ain't even doing this. They not even zoom into your shit. Hey, it's over with. Whoever the owner, who's the owner of the Miami Dolphins? Listen, get rid of your head coach. I don't even know what he be talking about half the time when he having an interview. I don't know what he doing. That boy on uppers and downers. I don't know what's going on. The team, the players that's supposed to be your captains, they don't even respect them. Take them seeds off their chest because that's the people that making these meetings and ain't nobody showing up. The respect is lost and gone there. Like, you got to start all the way over, man.
40:20Yeah.
40:21James Harrison:I mean, for Tua to be calling people out like that, it's kind of crazy. Because, obviously, you're letting the media, they don't need to be knowing about these people not showing up to your players or your meetings. You need to be go talking to these dudes directly and getting respect from a man that's on your team not showing up to your meeting. You think telling the media that he's not showing up to your meeting is going to make him want to come? or like you're trying to embarrass somebody from your team like, no, these dudes aren't bested. No, you grown ass man. It's another man. You talking about having a player.
40:50James Harrison:So now what's happening? Now what's happening? Hey, who ain't go to the meeting? Who ain't go to the meeting? Did you go to the meeting? Now the reporter's asking, did you go to the meeting? Did you go to the meeting? Did you go to the meeting? Bro, it's, it's, they, players only meetings is the first thing. And then people not showing up to your players only meeting. Players only meeting, you just lost one and a half engines. okay you're going down you only got two you lost half of the one you had you're going down i i ain't showing up man you lost both engines and one of the wings just fell off that son of bitch it's over it it's over with and then like you said too i let me make uh their coach he was my quarterback he was the wide receiver coach for the browns when i was there probably was he like that when you was there was just just just at just like that the same exact he hasn't changed one bit and that's not in the bad way he's a smart mind but leader of leader of other men you know i'm saying asking him a question he gave you something that you like this okay that makes sense like he's a little you know just flowy like you said you say Chloe?
42:00James Harrison:You say I was a downer. You call those things, you Chloe? I say Chloe. Dude, I could have did better than that. And I'm horrible at public speaking. Like, I'm trash. No, no, no, for sure. I don't even... So, yeah. Huh? You ain't said nothing. All you said was, yeah, so he said we know, we are, and And, you know, he understands. Huh? You said a whole lot of nothing. When I fire you, fire? Yep. You know? Debo, shut up. He said, you're fired? Man, what's going on over there, man? Yeah, they got to do better, man. It's not looking good. You can't, listen, man. Yeah. and like you said you're putting it out there now and you're putting it out there to hope to shame the dudes into coming like that's even worse that's how much they don't respect you you trying to literally I said you going to the media about them not coming to your place right that ain't how you lead now they looking at you like damn fed you a snitch whole time
43:25not with it they kind of already knew you was the police now they for show he the feds bro you gonna do 80 % 85 % of your time for show
43:38James Harrison:see look Dez said something about it Dez tweeted about it what did he say Dez say I want to know what part of this is going to take accountability for Tua threw three picks today Tua is the third in the NFL with the most interceptions thrown by a quarterback. If you haven't said this privately first, then in the media. I don't respect it. And since we are on the topic of respect, I guarantee a lot of the players don't respect Tua. Tua points the finger and literally has four pointing back at him. If you want to win, put Ewers in. Who is Ewers? Man, it must be the backup quarterback. That's crazy.
44:18I ain't even heard of him. and he ready to put it in. But that's exactly what we were saying, though. I mean, that ain't no news flash.
44:28James Harrison:No, it is what it is. Like, we're saying the same thing, bro. We've been in the locker rooms before. We know when people are in their thing. And, like, at the end of the day, like, there was player-only meetings that we did once a week for the Steelers, like the DBs would do. Everybody, all the DBs are in there, and we would host it ourselves, and we would have food. You know what I'm saying? Like somebody had to get food from a good-ass spot and we were watching. Right, but you're not having a meeting to try and figure out why the hell it's going. You're having an extra meeting to plan and get ready for the opponent that you're playing against to go over extra stuff, to eat and, you know, and hang out together, to build that.
45:07James Harrison:But what I'm saying is, do at the same time with that, though, Debo, at the end of the day, people don't got to go to those. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, that is extra. That is after. But there's a respect that when I came there, that was there. It's mandatory. Like, it's not mandatory. But it's mandatory because what the fuck else you going to do? Like, we going to come. We going to have this meeting. All the boys going to link up. And we look forward to it because, all right, bet. Like, I'm with my boys. But at the end of the day, it don't have to be that way. But knowing, like, people respect their leadership.
45:34James Harrison:Dudes, everybody understands. Like, nigga, if Joe in there, I'm in there. You know what I'm saying? If I'm in there, like, why the fuck would I be in there? You know what I'm saying? So it's like a, it's a unspoken because you could tell the dudes of respect to people. If you say something, then they're going to just come because you're not just saying stuff out your ass. Something you're not wanting to even, it's just because it is what it is. Boom. We just going to come. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. We got to make it mandatory. What? What? That's, that's just like, I'm not making a man.
46:01James Harrison:But we, if we say it's like, it's a respecting. If things, you're just not talking all the time. So when you, somebody were to say something, then that means he, okay, boom. He means he's not just speaking and talking shit all the time. Troy Palamalu never went out, never partied, never did anything. But come rookie dinner, Troy is going out. Why? Because that's what it is. It's camaraderie. It's an event that happens every year. It's not like he drank or anything, but he was there. He was there. He was there. Mm-hmm. That's volumes, bro. That's volumes. For sure. Yes. You ain't there, but mandatory on something.
46:39Stop. Stop playing, man. Listen, Denver went on ahead and beat the Jets. It was 13-11, but it really wasn't that close. It was close, but it wasn't that close. Dude, Denver's defense, they just dominated these boys, man. They didn't allow these boys to run the ball. They didn't allow them to pass the ball. They shut down everything, man. Runner back, no, he had 22 carries, bro, and only 59 yards. Like Fields, this boy sacked nine times. You know what happened? Well, he said, listen, for every completion I get, I'm going to let y 'all get a sack. So he had nine completions and they got nine sacks on it.
47:20That's the only thing I could say. I don't know, man. I'm just telling you, that's the only reason. That's the only way I could see that, you know, it was, you know, that's how they mended it out. They only converted, I think, what, two, maybe third downs, two. That was it. a total of 82 yards period dude how are you negative 10 passing yards bro huh it that they was they was they was they was hitting there was dude they was hitting Justin Fields dude so much though not I ain't even talking about the you know just the sacks they hit him 15 times too So, like, what in the world is popping over there?
48:08This is what I'm – I woke up at 9. Like, the Denver's offense really, they ain't do nothing, bro. All they had to do was sit out there, man, and just don't turn the ball over. And that's it.
48:20James Harrison:Brother, what I'm trying to say is I watched that game from beginning to end because it was the London game. It was 9.30 in the morning, and I was geeked. I'm like, okay, bet. We got good football. I'm going to watch this entire game and see what's going on with the Jets. Because Aaron Glenn was my DB coach. I like Aaron Glenn a whole lot. Okay, so you're about to say something. Because you said you like him a whole lot. That's prefacing with negative you're about to come with. Go ahead. No, it was the worst offensive display I've ever seen. Like, their defense was playing amazing. Turning the ball over, putting them in great field position.
48:55James Harrison:Pump returns, putting them in great field position. My man Fields only had, like, he has short fields the whole first half to just try to get something going. They couldn't move the ball at all. Negative 10 passing yards, the running game, it looked like, it almost looked like they weren't trying. And his, Justin Fields, simple speed outs, like routes on air. When your receiver, Gary was running the speed out, and he's throwing it in the dirt behind him, making him fall back. It just looks like the simple passes he could not make. You know what I'm saying? So I was looking at it because I'm like, okay, Denver isn't doing anything also.
49:33James Harrison:Like Bo Nix, love him to death, but their defense was playing great. They made them punt the ball eight times. He had eight punts, so like they kept giving him opportunities. Turnovers on short fields, great punt returns. And it's like, Justin Fields, you're not doing anything. Like you're harming your team. Somebody, just throw the ball up, get him a chance. I mean, he can do better. He could definitely do better. But also, you got to realize, I believe the offensive coordinator, I think this is his first time being an offensive coordinator. So maybe he's not able to fit his offense or play call to what it is that the strength of Justin is.
50:06Also, you know. Justin been in a lot of teams, though, bro. True statement. The one thing that I didn't like when we picked Justin up, I'm like, we picked him up. Okay, cool. You ain't really have to do nothing to get him or give up anything to get him. Yeah, yeah. But the thing that caused me to have to worry was when he was saying about his offensive coordinator in Chicago, he was like, it was along the lines that they got me thinking too much. They just need to let me go out there and play. And that to me said, I can't understand this game. I can't learn it. I can't read it. I can't get the ball where it needs to go in time.
50:40That's what it said to me. So that's him not being able to perform the level he needs to and understand the game that he needs to understand. So I'm seeing it at a 50 on him, maybe 60 on him, and the coordinator is not giving plays and designing things that's going to be beneficial for his talents.
51:05James Harrison:I think Justin Fields' talents are very – I think Justin Till's talents are his athleticism and his mobility. But being able to, if you can't read defenses fast and you think that sometimes offenses, I'm not trying to say, but if you say he's giving you too much, that's what quarterbacks do. Quarterbacks have to know what everybody's doing and what the defenses are doing and the checks. And it's a lot of information. You got to know the line, where the line's going. You may have to call the line. That's why that's the hardest position in the league by far because just the amount of information that you have to process and in a fast level.
51:41James Harrison:So when dudes are moving, trying to like bluff you and you don't know what the coverage is, and then they start, they can trick you. That means that you're not that good of a quarterback. You know what I'm saying? Because you have to be able to execute and be able to get things on the fly and be able to know what everybody's doing with your whole offense in the position. You know what I'm saying? So if you're like, oh no, it's too much for me to, I'm sorry, that's not my bad. You're a professional quarterback. These dudes are making$60 million a year. so they can process information, so they can do these things and be able to get all these other guys in the right spots.
52:13James Harrison:So I understand completely, but when I'm looking at it, I'm like, yo, if you don't know how to read the defense and then, like, throwing bad passes for quick outs that are, like, routes on air, I'm sorry, we need to find another guy. Like, a lot of the stuff, like, it could be offensive coordinator too, but some of the stuff, just looking at it, I'm like, boy, you're not helping. You're hurting the squad. Oh, no question, dude. And then you got, you know, you got Garrett Wilson. He had an exchange with Aaron Glenn going into halftime. Like, what do you think he said? Look, because you saw, like, they just, they didn't even look like they were trying to get a field goal.
52:50James Harrison:They were down at the 50-yard line with 30 seconds left, and they just let the clock run out. Like, they didn't even try to get another 10 yards, run up, spike it, get a field goal. He's like, oh, no. Like, Aaron, like, they didn't even believe. They thought, oh, no, he might throw a pick. He might take a sack. something bad is going to happen. Let's just get into halftime. Instead of let's go get some points on the board. Let's try to get some momentum going into halftime. You go into halftime looking like this. Oh, let's just not fuck this up. And Gary Wilson is standing there like, throw me the ball.
53:20James Harrison:Like, I'm trying to get us activated. Let's get going. And he's walking off and sees that the coaches aren't going to call a play. I'm pissed. I'm like, what are we really doing? Are we not trying to score? Are we not trying to win? I think that would be the strange. When you do that, you're showing me that you're happy with the process, with the progress that you have right now at this point in the game. And they may have been too scared to actually go because when you're getting pressure like that, sack left and right, you know, you only one play away from that sack fumble to the house. Yeah, but he came off, it's coming off of a completion, a rare completion.
53:54James Harrison:He had one. So then everybody's running up to the bench. He only had nine of them, baby. Bro, he only had nine. They coming off a rare completion. Everybody looking, 30 seconds, countdown, down and then they just looking at each other like, okay, let's just wait for this thing. Let's just go in here. Slow down, slow down. We got a completion. Deal, cinnamon. You think two in a row. On the fuck down now. And then they still only lost by two points, dude. That tell you how much of nothing Denver's offense was doing, dude. I'm putting it to Denver's offense was doing nothing but damn it, the defense of the Jets was balling.
54:28James Harrison:They were creating getting turnovers and, like, getting off the field on third downs. They was doing their part. So, like, that's why I look at the offense like, you can't. You had 30, it was like 33 yards in the first half and 30, 40-something in the second half. I'm like, yo, that's crazy. Like, all over, the whole game. That's crazy. That's bad ball. So, the Chiefs beat the Lions 30-17, but that wasn't a big to go to. It was after the game. When Branch refused to shake Mahomes' hand and then went up to Juju and basically shoved him, punched him in his face in his helmet, and then the brawl started.
55:11Dan Campbell, he did not like it. He called out his player. And, you know, what is your take on this? About players, you know, doing extracurriculars after the game.
55:26James Harrison:Man, I'm not about it at all. I don't, I don't, I'm not here for it. You got three hours in that game to literally in between the whistles, do what you got to do. It's a physical, brutal sport where you can really go get your revenge in a good way and not like trying to hurt nobody. But yeah, you can get physical. You can come and smack somebody. Boom. Yeah. And like, you can really get your get back in between the whistles and in the football game. So I'm thinking after the game, once it's all over, it is what it is. it's a competitive juices get up people get feeling some type of ways but at the end of the day we're all in the NFL we're all trying to provide for our families do the right thing and like just hopefully nobody you know I'm trying to go at it to like injure anybody so my whole thing is emotions get high but once the game is over the game is over I'm trying to get back to the crib back to the family and get out of there but I just don't understand how I mean you could walk up on Jew I saw it like no handshake and then just pop my man that's not That's not okay.
56:28James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? It was he, Loki, had his hand out. Yeah. You can't do that. You can't do that. It's not really anything. Is it anything that somebody can say to you that would cause you to do that? Honestly, bro, unless nobody, if you don't put your hands on me, then it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? I always, you can talk, people get into emotions, but once you get physical, once you put your hands on me, then that's a whole different game. You know what I'm saying? So like people altercations, people talk, whatever, but after the game, I'm out of there. You can be grown enough to be mature enough to walk away.
57:05James Harrison:There's not too many things that nobody can say to me that had me up in a roar like that. But I feel like once you touch me, then it's fucking, then it's all hell break loose. It doesn't matter. You did that. Now you overstepped for sure. Words can be spoke, whatever, whatever, and we go our separate ways. It is what it is. But once you start putting your hands on me, once you start touching me, keep your hands to yourself. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how I feel about that. Yeah, it really ain't nothing you can say to me that's going to cause me to do that. Because I'm already thinking about money.
57:36And in today's era, how dudes post social media, this and that. If you really want to do this and we got a problem, you want to say, man, we can meet in the offseason. We can meet. We're probably training in the same state. Like, if it's really that real, we can meet in the offseason. and this ain't no, and you can do it behind closed doors.
57:54James Harrison:You know how that is, Ebo. If dudes really want smoke, you know how to find each other. It's very easy. It can do it quietly, yeah. Matter of fact, you got to walk up to them, hey, Juju, you know what I'm saying? You're going to have to see me, whatever, whatever. And they can literally link, and if you really wanted to do it. But that is just a, like, motion pop-off. You know it's about to be a whole shebang. Money's going to be a find. Everybody's going to be talking about this instead of what really happened in the game. You know what I'm saying? So if you really wanted it, then we could make it happen.
58:22James Harrison:But I just don't feel that's just like that. Come on, man. And I'm not knocking the branch character or anything, but that's just not a good look. Just walk up to my man, boom, and it is what it is. Yeah, yeah. Good Lord. Listen, tonight, Chicago at Washington, okay? That's tonight's game. All right? We want to thank y 'all for joining us. Time went fast that time, man. We want to thank y 'all for joining us on this episode of D-Bo and Joe, man. Hit the like and subscribe button. We will be back here on Tuesday. Joe stuff, huh? Hayden, what you got to say? We will be here on Tuesday to talk about the Bears game, see what they talking about.
59:06James Harrison:Bears versus Washington Commanders. It's actually up the street. I'm thinking I might go up there and see what JD is talking about. Go ahead. Jump in there. And you know what? and we out
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