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20:36James Harrison:You don't want to lose. You know what I'm saying? So I think it gives you a little bit more motivation. But it's not like it's Aaron Rodgers versus them. I love the way he goes about it, not saying like, no, they didn't want me so. But I think at the inside, as a competitor, he definitely wants to beat them. Like, obviously he wants. he wants to win i'm not i haven't talked to aaron i don't i haven't spoken to him about this and but in my heart of hearts i think he 150 000 want to beat the dogs not out of them boys like he wants to go out there he wants to win and he wants to outperform the other quarterback in numbers, in yards, touchdowns, whatever that is, 100 % he wants to do all of that.

21:23Now, in his career, like everything he said was like, you know, the organization itself. Yes, love for the organization, love it. But the guys that's there, the coaches that actually, or the GM that got you up out of there, whatever that may be, you feel in some kind of way. Like, I'm going to tell you right now, when I went to New England, bro, and we had that opportunity to play the Steelers, and all they had to do was beat Jacksonville, and they let Jacksonville go out there and run through them and get stoned. I was there. I was on the defensive side. I was so upset. I was so upset, dude, because I was going to get me some more of that Ben Roethlisberger like I got in college.

22:10When I sacked him five times at the end of my senior year for the last guy. You know what I'm saying? Your camera went off, Debo. My camera went out.

22:19James Harrison:Hold on. But no, trust me and believe. Yeah. Real talk. Like, you want to beat every team in the NFL that you didn't even play for. We want to beat the Ravens. We want to dog them. An organization that you literally play for, you know people there. You know them. You know them personally. Like, you've kicked it before. Not like it's a, like, why wouldn't you want, you don't want to go there and be like, oh, yeah, this is a game. We want to be the best that we can be. We think that we're the best. And we're coming to perform that. Y 'all didn't think I was good enough to be there anymore. I want all smoke.

22:52James Harrison:I want to win. I want to get y 'all out the way. Like, I want to, not embarrass y 'all, but like, I want y 'all to see, like, y 'all didn't think I was good enough. I know it's a business. Yo, y 'all made the wrong decision. Y 'all made the wrong decision. You know what I'm saying? No hard feelings. I mean, at some point in time, everybody know they got to go. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Him knowing he spent 18 years there. He's like, I'm going to retire there. Like that, that is kind of like, that's my spot. There's no stuff there. Like being able to know, he knows what it is. I spent, I won a Superbowl there.

23:19James Harrison:That's, I spent 18 years, my career, my hall of fame. Like they know me, Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay, but like, I'm still, I'm playing now. I'm Mungish Hatikula and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us. I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain. Here's some hard truths.

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24:30the declaration which is full of these beautifully rendered you know sentences and paragraphs about enlightenment ideals does also have this darker history to it why is it important for the darker part of the declaration of independence in the american revolution why is it important that Americans know about it. Well, if we don't understand the full context in which our nation was founded, we won't understand the full context in which our nation now finds itself. I'm Rebecca Nagle, Goheen Dawudon, Jalika Yetli Kei La, citizen of Cherokee Nation. Are you guys big Chiefs fans? Hell yeah. This is First America, the true story of how the United States came to be and how we got to this present moment.

25:21Listen to First America on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, Paul Verzi here, and I want to talk to you about Paul's best podcast. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio. I sit down each week with a special guest and we discuss the absolute best of things. Pete Davidson. It's that, and then there's everything else. He would just shout one line and it would murder. Marie! Lunch! Let's talk about the best moments that we had on the road. I would love a cocktail. Dude, Joe could get last row middle seat on a Southwest Airlines flight.

25:57Joe, how was your flight? It was great. The guy on Penn State, we were on the field, and the player thought Joe was his former coach. And he hugged him. He hugged him, and Joe just went with it. And the guy goes, what are you doing here, coach? And Joe just goes, man. And you walk in, and it is bananas. I mean, it's a feast for the eyes. And I was like, it's not my thing either, but we're here. When in Rome. Top athletes, chefs, musicians, everybody. Listen to Paul's Best Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

26:29James Harrison:We're the Steelers, and I'm trying to go do what I got to do. Oh, yeah. No question. But I'm going to tell you this. Again, it's still some extra there. If the opportunity was like I had a crystal ball, and they said, hey, you could lose to A team, or you could lose to B team. B team is the one that you played for forever and they got rid of you. A team is just the organization. A team? No, no, no, no. I'm trying to beat this thing out of B team. No, no. I thought you said if you was going to lose. No. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sorry. I'm tripping. If I'm going to lose, I'm going to lose. I'm not trying to lose the B.

27:08I'm not trying to lose to them people that let me, that I played for. No. No. I don't care if it's one game. Like, I want that one game. Listen, I'll give up two for the one. Trust, man. Depending on the situation, you know what I'm saying? Give up two for one is crazy. You know what I'm saying? It really depends on the situation, man. Uh-huh. Yeah. Listen, don't forget, we are playing the Green Bay Packers. and all these people out here who want to listen all these people out here who want to say that still isn't playing nobody we're about to play somebody we're about to play a formidable we're about to play a formidable opponent okay that way once we win nobody can say anything and for that reason is why joe and myself are giving away two tickets to two different for two different people.

28:08So it's a total of four tickets. And matter of fact, the winner will be announced tomorrow on IG. Okay. On IG. Okay. I love it, Debo. We're going to keep you waiting a little bit longer. Just a little bit. It's worth the wait. Sunday night. Pittsburgh. What do you think going to happen, Debo? What you... Unanimous victory.

28:38James Harrison:I know. How do you think it's going to happen? Defense. What do you think our defense is going to do? Defense is going to do their thing and Aaron is going to go out there and go Aaron. No, you're going to go crazy. Go Aaron. Respectfully. I ain't going to lie to you, though. I'm a little maybe concerned. Okay. Okay. about Parsons over there. Because last week he did kind of go crazy. No, he definitely did. So I'm hoping he got that out the way. We're going to see. We're going to have to. He don't feel like going crazy no more. I think it's going to be a real. I can't wait. I can't wait. What you saying it like that for?

29:25James Harrison:What do you mean you can't wait? I can't wait for the Steelers to show that they're going to be the real deal. I'm rocking. Okay. I'm rocking. Okay. Okay. I'm just, you know. You're checking my temperature to see what I'm talking about. Because it kind of, you know, you get iffy sometimes. Like, who the Browns playing? Let me check your temper. Who the Browns playing? The Browns playing the Patriots. They playing the Patriots. Yes. Where they at? I think they're in New England. They're in New England. What do you see? Let me see your eyes, Joe. What do you see here, Joe? What outcome do you see happening?

30:07James Harrison:This is, man, I'll tell you one thing. If the Browns win this, I would be surprised because the Patriots are looking good. The Patriots are looking like a really good team. So you're saying unanimous defeat. No, no, no. This is what I'm telling you. You ask for my, do you want my sports, what do I think, like sports talk or like literally is going to happen on the field or what do I emotionally want to happen? There's a difference between what I want to happen and what I - What do you want to happen, Joe? I want the Browns to win. I want the Browns to perform. What do you think is going to happen?

30:48I think that the Patriots might beat us. honestly, if you really want to know.

30:57James Harrison:I think the Patriots are playing. I hope that because just because I think our offensive attack, I don't know. I want to see what we can do with the run game. I know they're beatable. I hope we beat them. I think we can beat them. But with their running attack, with the way that Drake May is playing. Well, that's the hope and wish and pray. Hope, faith, and charity, all that. You know what I'm saying? You got a lot of words that don't equate to a W. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. When I speak, when I talk about it as a fan, as a fan, as me wanting my team to win, then that's when it gets real like this got to happen.

31:38James Harrison:But if I just want to talk to like the pitchers are playing. But when the Browns play the Steelers, you just want to see a good game and whoever wins, wins. I want to see a good game. I want both of the teams to play at a high level. I just want to see good football. And wherever the chips may fall, they fall. I just, I'm having a difficult time with that situation. And I think the people are too. I understand that. I understand that. But they didn't, but they didn't have the blood, sweat, and tears. I spent seven years. I mean, you're kind of talking like somebody I know in Miami. I don't. See, that's what I'm saying.

32:10James Harrison:I don't want to start sounding like Coach McDaniel when I'm starting to talk about the Browns. Yeah. Yeah. Get the stuttering. Get the stuttering. Get the moving in my hands. get to not really get to not really saying anything.

32:26And then what you think will happen, Debo?

32:30James Harrison:Give me what do you think is going to happen with the Browns versus Stiller? I mean, the Browns versus the Patriots. Patriots? All day. Patriots. You already know that. Stop it. What? The Browns beating the Patriots at home? Yeah. Who they coach? Hmm? Rabel? He ain't about... He said he ain't have nothing. He said he suited up himself before he lose to the Browns. Okay. Unanimous. Unanimous victory by the Patriots. Okay. No, you know what? I'm going... I'm going to put... I'm going... You know what I'm going to do this time? Just because I think the Browns defense, balling, elite, Junkins, balling.

33:21James Harrison:I just think this is going to be my... Unless they hit him come across the middle, he goes short-armed. This is going to be the game for real, for real, that's going to be able to show me a lot about Dylan Gabriel, too. I'm going to hold the defense. Defense has the ball. Special teams has the ball. Running game, obviously, let's make sure we get the ball to Junkins. We're not going to make him have to throw it 50 times. But I need you to throw the ball a little bit downfield. I need some 200 and some yards. with a touchdown and no interceptions. You know what I'm saying? If I can get 220 in the tutty, good.

33:55James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? First downs, convert on third down. I need it to get, you know what I'm saying? Great third down conversions. Keep a couple drives alive. Use your legs. Don't be dumb. You know what I'm saying? And if we can beat them, if Dylan can win this game, then God, okay. Okay, Dylan, I see you. But I don't know. With what I've seen from the previous games, I'm not saying that I don't know that can happen, but I hope he can do it. Okay, you hoping. I'm hoping. Hoping. Okay, that's good. It's good to have hope. You know what I'm saying? Because I want them to do. I mean, but, you know, how many games did I win?

34:31Two. Huh? Huh. How many? Two. Two. Okay. Okay. I was just checking. I was just checking. You know, when you start losing games.

34:39James Harrison:It's what have you done for me lately? Last week, they bust Miami. So, we're going to see. Miami. Look, look, last week the Patriots beat Tennessee. So both of them have, so both of them can say, okay, you can only be who you play. Miami? Miami. Look. Tennessee would beat Miami. Miami can't get nothing together. We going to see. Like, you start losing like that, you start losing things. Ask the Ravens. The Ravens, they lost their ping pong table in their locker room. That's what happened. That's what happened. You start losing. You start losing stuff now. You ever had something taken away in the locker room?

35:19Start losing privileges. Start losing privileges. Start losing all your little games that might be in there. You know what? I never liked having little games and pool table, all that stuff in the locker room. Because it adds distraction to why you're there. You're here to work. Even though it is a job that you enjoy, you like to be there, you're here to work. I don't need nothing distracting me from being able to get out to the field in time. You know what I'm saying?

35:46James Harrison:It just don't make no sense. I was never really a game guy. Sometimes we would play cards just to blow the time through. Listen, your boy Kyle Hamilton said, he said, My racist. Say the word. Morale. Thank you. Hasn't dropped. We still feel we can make magic. They got to make magic. You got to make magic. I thought all you need to do is just play at the level that y 'all had been playing at before this year. And that would, you know, that would be enough. They talking about magic. I understand why they talking about magic. Like, what is it? They 1-5? Something like that? Yeah, something like that.

36:32Something like that? How many teams done made the playoffs that was 1-5, dude? Not a lot. What is it? Four or five teams, I think, that made the playoffs that started 1-5? And you over here with the Pittsburgh Steelers. You over here with the Pittsburgh Steelers who you got to see two times. He talking about they got to play every game like it's an elimination game. We ain't losing to no Ravens.

37:06James Harrison:No. No. Not twice. They got to get that magic back. when is Lamar coming back they say Lamar is supposed to be coming back this week but that's what they say that's what they say I need Lamar to go out there and do his thing but I might need him to have a little setback before he sees us that's all I'm asking oh man Debo damn I'm just I ain't asking I ain't wishing nothing bad on nobody you know what I'm saying? No, no, no, for sure. Never do, never do that. But, I mean, I think the last time we seen them, they put some numbers up that was not, I didn't like those numbers. Wasn't it like close to like 300?

37:54Like Russian? Something like that? I think so. Yeah, I don't, hey, y 'all, y 'all want the magic back. Go down to the Magic Kingdom at Disney. Y 'all go there.

38:08James Harrison:Like, they gotta start, they gotta just I'm not believing in the Ravens this year the defense still, like at the end of the day Lamar's out, the offense isn't doing what they gotta do but your defense is not playing well, so we talking about the magic back everybody gotta do their 11th everybody gotta do their job there's people running open, there's people running through the defense so that's not gonna change in one week, you know what I'm saying I don't think, and then when your offense gets back when Lamar gets back, he's gonna have to take He's not going to take him time to get back into his groove, I don't think.

38:40James Harrison:But your team – I mean, even when you had him, you still couldn't win because the defense couldn't stop him. That's what I'm saying. So if nothing – Like Magic, man, you need a miracle. You got it, man. Something got to change. So, I mean, they know it. Looking at the tape, they got to perform better. So it's accountability. So it's really just the dudes – like you said, they have the players to do it, so they got to start playing better. Or they going to be looking still crazy. and I don't think that the magic is doing your job everybody you know I'm saying consistently like making the routine plays routinely like you know I'm saying like every play is not made for you you setting your teammate up to do it and just the normal things when you do that normally then it's gonna look magic you know what I'm saying like there's nothing extra that you gotta go do outside of yourself you know what I'm saying yeah it's nothing magic just do your job better than the person you're going against.

39:35Like, win your one-on-ones and everything else should take care of itself.

39:39James Harrison:D-Bo, it's a lot simpler, you know what I'm saying, when you really put it into perspective. Like, when you go in that film room and you're really sitting there with your coaches and you're really breaking down the tape, you can see each play like, oh, no, he lost his one-on-one right here. He was blocked out of the way. That's what made, you know what I'm saying, this play open. That's why this hole is this big. You know what I'm saying? It's not nobody's fault back here in the secondary. This fault right here was on his defensive tackle. that should have been there. Normally, if you stay right there, he's going to jump over to the next gap.

40:06James Harrison:And then if that gap is not contained, that's on that man where he should be in his spot. It's not as hard as people try to make things. It's not a magic thing. It's like, no, was all 11 people doing their job on this play? Y 'all won this play. Next play. Was everybody doing their job on this? Especially when you start losing, you have guys trying to do extra. Like, I'm going to do what I need to do and mine. And then you go and you think you got yours secured. you go and try and help your partner. Now, all of a sudden, that running back door to that spot you was at. It's a lot simpler. You know what I'm saying?

40:38And now you're looking like, oh, man, like, just do your job and everything else will fall in this place, man. Take care of your kitchen. Yo, Brandon Graham, eat back. Eat back. Eat back. Vince said he go see what shape he in to see, you know, how much he go use and where he go go from there. Hey, you ever had any teams that tried to get you to come back out of retirement, bro?

41:04James Harrison:Man, no, Debo. No. No? No, because I told my agent, I'm done. And when I – I respect the game too much. Dude, the fans is asking for you right now in Cleveland. Brother, I'm telling you this right now. I respect the game too much. And just my hips and the surgeries I had, like, I just don't feel physically like I could do what I needed to do. like running, breaking, like doing that consistently. Like that, when I was in the league, bro, that stuff I was doing like with the maintaining my body, I was getting the dry needles. I was doing all this stuff every single day, like watching what I ate, working out.

41:41James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Because I took it really seriously because like after year, once I was in the joint year six and seven, I started getting a little older and it wasn't just as easy to get up every day. You go to the practices, you do the stuff, the wear and tear, the grind of the game. and nobody's getting older out there. These dudes are getting younger. There's new draft picks coming in every single year. Alabama, Florida, Miami. They're coming in hungry, ready to take your spot. And they're athletic. They're not getting any less more athletic. These dudes are running faster. They're jumping higher.

42:11James Harrison:And they're really, really good. So I would be a disservice. I would be disrespecting the game, thinking like I can just come off the couch after two years of just chilling, not doing nothing. I know my groins are tight. I can't really dunk off vert. Like I used to, like just being able to stand in the room, jump and dunk. That's when I'm like, okay, yeah, bet. I can do things that other just normal people aren't doing at my size and stature because I'm a professional athlete. Right now, no. I can't do that. Out there with Jamar Chase, you telling me guard a man to man? He's going to drop me up.

42:41James Harrison:I'm going to look nuts out there. Like, no, sir. So I think for me, it's more respect for the game. Telling my agent, look, man, I'm out of here. And I don't want to go out there and be looking like. You don't want to get embarrassed, dude. I don't want to go out there getting embarrassed like this. Damn, what was y 'all doing out there looking crazy, getting toasted? I want the people to remember the last time I was out there playing. That's the guy that go out there. He get toasted and all that other stuff. And you talk trash to him and he be like, I make more money than you, though. That's what I'm saying.

43:10James Harrison:That's all he can go through. That's all he can throw at you. Shit, I'm making more money than you, though. I'm like this. Now you out here stealing. You just out here stealing. You know what I'm saying? You don't even mean it. They're not trying to get in there. I want to remember, like, I'm going to go hard. I want to throw myself in there. I want to make these tackles. I don't want to be nervous in the open field when I see Derrick Henry. Because when I played, I wasn't scared. I'm like, no, I'm about to come down, chop this tree. I'm about to come take his legs out. You know what I'm saying?

43:35James Harrison:So now, if I was thinking out there now, I'd be like, oh, I'm running up looking crazy. I'm like, am I about to get Duke? Am I about to get ran over? Like, no, I'm not. So how do you think Brandon is going to do? I think people are different. I think like even you, Deebo, how you said, continue to take care of your body. If he feels good, if he can take that wear and tear, if he can get to that position where I just don't want him to go. If he goes out there and he's like, man, this is just a little bit too much. I just don't know. I just know for my body-wise, if he was able to take care of his body, be in a position to get out there and really make plays, all more pressure to him, more love to him.

44:13James Harrison:I remember, what's the safety? The safety that played for the Chargers. My man, he had the Eric Guetto. Eric Guetto. He was on the field for a minute, and then he was able to come back and ball out. I'm like, man, great for you. He must have been taking care of his body. I can see players that could do it. I just know myself personally. Heck no. It ain't happening. It ain't happening. Listen, I totally, 100 % understand what you're saying. It's like people would be like, man, you can come back. No, uh-uh. I tell them, looks can be deceiving. Yes. I tell them, I'm just going for the look. That's it.

44:46Man, you look like you can play. I tell them, looks can be deceiving.

44:49James Harrison:That's it. That's the only thing I'm going for now, baby, is the look. I'm going to look good for sure, but running, jumping, tackling, getting up to full speed right now, take off. If I had the all-out sprint, I am tearing something off. Brother, your hammy's going to blow off the bone. Dude, I can't even imagine it. That's bad. That's bad. Roger Goodell said he is exploring how AI could improve officiating. You like that idea? I love that idea. I do too. I want you to get everything straight, get everything correct, get it right. Like, so that is no, oh, well, if this had got caught, if this hadn't got caught, so on and so forth.

45:35Like, it's a easier way to do all this to get make sure you get everything 100 percent correct. That's like baseball. They don't want to use the the strike thing like it's right there. All you got to do is like, it's going to be pop. They hit you and say, strike. You're like, all right, strike. But some of them dudes be so far off calling strikes. You're like, dude, like if he had an opportunity to get another swing or two at that, the whole game changes. Yeah, no, for sure.

46:04James Harrison:They're leaving room for a human error. I think some of the stuff like, I want to see how they would do like holding calls, stuff like that. I think like line calls, like is that a first down? Did they score? Were their feet in? Did they go out of bounds? those things like the tennis ball. Like that stuff is like, you can see. If you got a chip on the ball, you know that they passed the line, did they pass the first down line or not. I just would look at like some of the holding calls, some of the stuff that's kind of like decision-wise. I don't know how AI could kind of do that, but I know for like lines, first downs, did they score, toes in, stuff like that.

46:35I'm Mungus Shatigular, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us. I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you, and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain, as opposed to his brain. Here are some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble.

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48:56that we had on the road. I would love a cocktail. Dude, Joe could get last row middle seat on a Southwest Airlines flight. Joe, how was your flight? It was great. The guy on Penn State, we were on the field, and the player thought Joe was his former coach. And he hugged him. And he hugged him, and Joe just went with it. And the guy goes, what are you doing here, coach? And Joe just goes, man. And you walk in, and it is bananas. I mean, it's a feast for the eyes. And I was like, it's not my thing either, but we're here. When in Rome. Top athletes, chefs, musicians, everybody. Listen to Paul's Best Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

49:35James Harrison:Show. It makes perfect sense because they're direct. It's like there's no point in like, no, did he do that? No, the ball, they could tell. As soon as the elbow went down, I think AI is just so much more specific. Like, matter of fact, like this is exactly what it is. Yeah. Also, something that happened when I went to New England is scout your refs. people don't a lot a lot of teams don't don't don't scout their ref and it was like it was super smart to me when i got there i'm like why have we never you know we have never done this like you they scout the refs if this is a ref that calls a lot of voting calls if this is a ref that calls a lot of uh you know pi calls what calls do he make and what calls don't he make so that gives you the opportunity to be like yo i could be a little handsier today than than before versus oh, this ref right here, he's going to call.

50:24He's going to call everything. It don't matter if it's a little tug, a big tug. He's a guy, he's going to call it by the book straight down the line. And that was something I was like, oh, for real? They was like, yo, so this ref right here, he ain't calling holding. He don't call holding. So unless you get tackled, you're not going to get a holding call. You better do everything you can to get off of this lineman, off this lineman. Yeah, because nothing's going to happen.

50:50James Harrison:He's not going to call a holding. yeah yeah no for sure i remember i think yeah i remember when i forgot when which team but i remember they would come in and let us know what crew we had and where they ranked in crews and holdings what call like what calls i'm like that's one of the smartest things i've seen because they like joe you better not touch these dudes these they call defensive pass interference like real high so they're gonna be real real you know what i'm saying so i'm like this damn that's crazy appreciate it yeah that's something that i that i never i never even thought about like and when i got there it's like yeah the officials for this game is going to be blah blah blah blah blah hey this is a dude i ain't gonna call holding this is a dude that's gonna call holding this is a dude that hey you could back off a little more off the line as a tackle because he's going to be more lenient on that you know off the ball stuff than than the other guy like the other dude is like yo if your waist if your head ain't breaking that center's waist he is he popping you you know what i'm saying like and it's stuff like that that i don't i don't think a lot of teams think about dude like like it just it just didn't like it didn't make any sense not to do it especially once i got there and i'm looking at it i'm like yeah why we never do this in pittsburgh like well like we could have had all kinds of little different advantages like okay i know this dude ain't gonna call holding so don't let me get too tight in on this you know on this on his tackle because he's not going to call the arm around the neck.

52:16He's just going to let that go. Yeah, for sure. But we're going to slide over here to the NBA, man. The NBA has a gambling scandal going on. Something vicious. Boy, boy, boy, boy, boy. Vicious. I like your jacket, yo. Vicious. Yo, they said, what was it? six years ago, your boy Chauncey Billups had a poker scheme popping, manipulating shuffling machines, x-ray table, bro. He had it all going. All going. They said they actually got texts. This is all allegedly, okay? This is all allegedly. It's allegedly. They got all this allegedly, okay? It's allegedly. I'm just going to say allegedly okay allegedly they have texts they got paper trail texting back and forth talking about hey you winning too much you need to lose some it's good we go get we go get caught you know what i'm saying they saying seven million dollars over six years seven million dollars bruh if i ever played any type of gambling poker with you bruh you gonna give me every penny back.

53:38Jail time ain't what you going to have to worry about, bro. Like jail time will be the easiest thing that you go do. Like out of jail,

53:48James Harrison:seven million dollars, bro? Debo, so there's a lot of different things on this joint. So they got like Rozier and they got Billups with doing like the setting up the cars, setting up the decks, having people like fish, like him and a couple of dudes that they know and then bringing in another guy that doesn't know what's going on and fleecing them for their money so that that that was the part where it was like they had the cards and the and the decks and the and the dealers were in it so my thing is people gamble all of the time and i'm not with the gambling like if you're in the nfl like you know how they are they always do those nfl meetings about telling us that you can't gamble you can't game right all that's like it's a big no-no in the league that lets you know that my my thing is playing in the nfl and being a player we know that you can gamble it like it's a job that you do where you make the money so with nba i'm looking at them where like these these parlays these like prop bets where it's like the unders and that's what they're saying like terry roger was like they said he he went on here and pulled himself out i'm gonna think under nine or over 10 minutes into the game to get the under, and they put, I guess, like 250 on it.

55:06James Harrison:Yes, yes, yes, yes. Man. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. My thing of this, though, Debo, is with that part, though, at the end of the day, you're in the NFL or you're in the NBA, you're a professional player. You know that that's the most frowned upon, a legal thing that you can possibly do. Correct? Now listen, allegedly it was also backed by the mafia. I'm talking about all the families. What is it? Bambino, the Gambino, the GFC, the Lucchesi. Like, dude, you talking. That's scary. That's scary. That's scary. This whole case has a whole different, a lot of different levels to it.

55:54James Harrison:Because when we're talking about the mafia, that's something that, like, when we're talking about just gambling and dudes, like, gambling and betting on games, this is like, Damon Jones was an NBA coach and NBA player. Terry Rozier is an active player. Chauncey Billups is the head coach for the Portland Trailblazers. When we talk about the legitimacy of the game. He in the Hall of Fame, bro. Yes, he got inducted to the Hall of Fame. They go stripping? What's going on with that? I don't know if they're going to strip him. Pete Rose now. Pete Rose couldn't get in because of this. I mean, it's a lot.

56:34James Harrison:It's a lot going on. They're going to have to do some digging. I know, and the other part is, too. You make all that money and you scamming people, dude. That's the part that I'm saying, too. What are you doing, bro? You tripping. It's not like you're having a real... People in the league, there's always having poker games. People are betting. People are having a good time. That's what people like to do. Like on the planes, we would play dice, play cards. The thing is, when you start loading dice, when you start cheating people, there's no chance for them to win. It's not an actual real gamble.

57:06James Harrison:It's a theme. You're stealing. You're stealing from people. But real talk, I ain't never played no type of nothing with NBA players, dude. Them boys start off way too high. See, Debo, I have. Bruh. I have. You? I have. Joe, you tripping. I have. You got paper like that, Joe. I have. I'm$20. $20 ante, man. Hey,$20, that's it. This is the thing, too. I'm not saying. I don't do it anymore. And sometimes I used to gamble. I would be involved in the games. Some of them would get crazy. But it's like I know when to stop. I know when to. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, so you lost some money to your boy Chauncey.

57:57No. You be looking for him right now? Right now? Hey, you lost about three big ones.

58:05James Harrison:There's certain, see, that's what I'm saying. And there's certain private games that I would know when they're playing for more than I'm willing to play for. So there's a situation where you be in the spot and I'm like this. Oh, you can see them playing cards. Brother, I was in the spot. I went to Portland, Oregon for my Jordan trip. three a month ago. And he's the coach for the Trailblazers. We were at the same spot. I had to watch in the game when the Pacers, it was like game something. I think the Pacers was playing the Thunder. It was a playoff game. We were under there chilling and they were playing cards.

58:36James Harrison:Chauncey was down there underneath the little spot. Robbing niggas. Robbing niggas. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. This is the thing though, D-Bow. Allegedly. Allegedly out there. I think the parties were at spots where they would do like, they would have cameras and situations set up. I don't think he was doing that every game. Not every time you're just going to go play, getting everybody. It's legitimately set up. Allegedly. Set up events where they're doing it. But, dude, if he's... That's theft. That's stealing. Sometimes, but at the end of the day too, Debo, when you're saying people are...

59:11James Harrison:People that bet$100... That's too much. That's too much. I'm just saying. $20. But you're saying that's too much, but I'm letting you know. Normal Americans will bet$100. They will bet$100. They will bet$100. And only have$1 ,000 to their account. That's 10 % of their net worth in their account. And that's just what normal— You're saying that it's not okay? But you know that's what a lot of people would do. Say it like— I ain't tripping, man. When you get to the league and people are making a lot more money, so that's why it's not as hard, but it sounds crazy. Listen, you're making a whole bunch of papers.

59:44You don't need to be betting on nothing. Let everybody else do that so they can go ahead and get their come up, man. Do what it is that they want to do. This is the part I'm saying now. Yo, but let's get to this right here. We still in the NCAA basketball. We're going to stick with basketball since we're there. Jared Shaw, they're saying this boy could face the death penalty in Indonesia for edible. Yeah. Cannabis edible, bro. Does he have cancer? you in indonesia they don't care nothing about that i know they don't care nathan about that bro zero talent this is the thing man this is the thing like when you're going over here to these these foreign countries like like you need to know what their rules are dude don't go over to these foreign countries playing around that you could do there what you do in america it ain't the same dude no they have way worse penalties like you steal something somewhere you get your hand cut off here they say oh just let them go don't stop them you don't want to just let it let it no oh you get your hand and now you have the possibility of losing your life over some and here's the crazy thing dude like it's it's delta nine like i for only reason i know about delta 9 i accidentally found out about delta 9 okay delta 9 is it is a compound bruh that i guess is like in the the thc or something so basically look bruh that's what gets you high okay delta 9 is what gets you high but they sell it as like cbd so it says cbd and it won't say without thc but it won't say with thc but on the back it had at delta 9 so this is what happened I take CBD, right?

1:01:45So I take real CBD. So somebody gave me something. I'm going to change the names and everything else to protect the innocent or the guilty. It's the guilty I'm protecting, but I don't want to put them out there. I don't want to put nobody out there. I ain't going to do it. I ain't going to do it, but I'm going to put you out there a little bit. Okay. So they give me the CBD gummies and I'm thinking, okay, cool. Right? So I go and I start popping a couple CBD gummies. I'm thinking of CBD, but it got Delta 9 in it. The Delta 9, I ate like eight of them, bro. Oh my goodness. How many milligrams? Do you know?

1:02:19It was 25 milligrams. It's supposed to be CBD, but it didn't know what Delta 9 was, bro. Eight at 25 milligrams? Bro, listen. You had 200 milligram gummies. Oh, you're out of mind. I swore to God, if he let me live, I was never taking another CBD gummies. Oh my goodness. I know. Oh, 200 million. And I did not.

1:02:41James Harrison:Oh, my God, T-Bone. Bruh, I was so mad, bruh. That's out-of-body experience. Were you okay? Did you trip out? Listen, man. I was so gone, bruh. I was just like, Lord, I was like, Lord, Jesus, please just let me. Yeah, yeah. I'll never do this again in life, in life. Them gummies is different. That's when I found out what Delta 9 went. They got a Delta 8, too. I guess it ain't worse as nine, but I ain't messing with no Delta, nothing no more. Like, it's just not happening. Easy thing to do is look up the rules and laws for the country you're going to so you can make sure you ain't breaking none of their rules or laws.

1:03:22And you won't have to end up in jail fighting for your life like Brittany Grinder was.

1:03:28James Harrison:I think he out there playing for them in the Indonesian League. And like you said, though, it's not America. and like I know they said he had you spit on the ground they can they do they do really yeah that's what I'm saying bro like people think like oh no they can't do that to me it's like no no no yeah they can't you're in America you get treated you don't understand like people are really really really in this world living completely different lives where hey women can't like can't show their hairs when people say we got it so bad believe me it's some things in this country that are bad but dude it is way worse things in other countries that you can get far worse penalties for that aren't nowhere near as bad that you do here that they won't even blink an eye at.

1:04:19Like, I'm not trying to go nowhere, baby. Like, I ain't trying to go nowhere. No, for sure. I'm bull. Dude. Hey, man, what's the... Like what country have you been to where you just you couldn't even communicate because you didn't speak their language and they didn't they didn't have much English to.

1:04:42James Harrison:See, this is what I'm saying. I'm not really going nowhere, Debo, where they that I'm not having nobody help me out or I'm just lost in the sauce. Like, yes. No, I'm not feeling comfortable. I'm not going anywhere. I don't feel comfortable and I don't feel safe. So I'm going like I'm going to I'm going to Mexico. I've been to Dubai. I love Dubai. I did Italy. We did Rome, Florence. Dubai was so cool too because it's safe. It's clean because they know. You don't trip out. You don't do nothing stupid. Nobody going to do nothing stupid. There are consequences. So people just live very nicely. They're chilling.

1:05:18James Harrison:They know it's clean. It's not dirty because it's like this. I'm not going to come out here doing nothing crazy. Y 'all don't want weed? Bet. Won't smoke. If you want the only place you can have alcohol is in hotels. And that's where they had their clubs on the rooftops or the bottom of the hotels. That's the only place. If you're outside, you're not walking around just with containers drinking. But if you're at a hotel, you can drink. It's like you're in America when you walk into the hotel. Everybody's chilling, you know what I'm saying? But just don't be acting crazy. I'm like this. I like this.

1:05:46James Harrison:It ain't even crazy, though. Just be normal. Just be normal. Don't do nothing. Don't be up here trying to get a view for doing something funny. No, don't do that. And get locked up for being distorted. Get locked up. Why are you being disorderly? I don't like being disorderly. I like chill. I like, hey, how you doing? Okay, good. Boom, boom, boom. Walking around just being a normal human. You know what I'm saying? Respecting everybody else, and they're going to respect you. Treat people the way you want to be treated. And that's kind of how I like the vibe. So I think some of the places, and then just with the things, if they don't accept the drugs, they don't play.

1:06:20James Harrison:So why are you trying? If you're sneaking in and you got some stuff, they're not playing about that. So that's something that you just don't do when you go across. So, like, I think just more the normal that you act and, like, just knowing, like you said, they don't, it's not just America. They're not going to slap you on the wrist, take your little drugs. They might chop your hand off. They might. Hey, yes. Kill you. They might. They might. They might shoot you. Oh, no. None of that. Listen, Google. Google it. Google will help you. Google if you can go to jail for anything, wherever you go, go.

1:06:53Google it. Google will help you. Google. Check out everything it is that you want to do, where you go do it at, and make sure you ain't going to lose your freedom or your life over it. Debo, tell the people what they got to do, man, to get these tickets to that game. Hey, listen, I got one more thing, though, man. I'm hoping we got this picture, man. It was a woman in Florida that claimed she was Eminem's wife after trying to get out of paying the bill. Dude, we got the picture, man. Please, please show me the picture. If y 'all think this is possibly Eminem's wife, please. You got the picture.

1:07:29Please tell me y 'all got the picture.

1:07:32James Harrison:Do they got the Eminem's shorties?

1:07:38Dang, they ain't got the picture, man. Put it in the clip later, man. Y 'all got to put it in the clip, man. But I'm just going to say I don't think that was his wife. I'm almost 100 % sure. Did you see it? I didn't see it. Right. Right. You look crazy. Hey. Oh, yeah. Oh, super. Super. Super duper. Hey, we're going to circle back on that, though, for real. Oh, dope. For sure. But look here, man. Don't forget, guys. Follow me. Follow Joe. Like and subscribe to Deebo and Joe for your opportunity tomorrow. Tomorrow to win one. of two sets, of two tickets to watch the Pittsburgh Steelers put their work in.

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