Deebo & Joe - Shedeur gets Browns WK 13 start, Ja'Marr Chase apologizes + 49ers-Panthers REACTION

25 Nov 2025 · 1 h · 24 chapters

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In short

Debo and Joe react to the 49ers vs. Panthers game, focusing on Christian McCaffrey’s usage, Bryce Young’s interceptions, and standout defense—especially Panthers CB J.C. Horn. They also discuss Ja’Marr Chase’s apology after spitting, whether Bryce Young should be benched, and the Browns starting Shedeur Sanders vs. the 49ers. Later segments cover parenting/discipline, a viral sideline incident involving a high school coach shoving an opposing QB, and a “terrorist” 911 prank.

Guests

No external guests are present; the hosts are James “Deebo” Harrison and Joe Hayden.

Guest backgrounds

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Key claims

49ers’ defense “answered the call” with multiple interceptions; Purdy’s picks were costly but Carolina’s offense struggled. Horn’s man-to-man and zone reads led to game-changing plays. Bryce Young should be moved on due to limited improvement and accuracy concerns. Chase’s apology is “eloquent” but misses the person he spit on (Jalen Ramsey). Shedeur Sanders should start; Dylan Gabriel shouldn’t return.

Notable examples

McCaffrey’s first-drive touches and 12-yard TD; Horn’s deep-third/“bang eight” interception; Panthers fumbles on kickoff; Young throwing back across the body into the end zone for a pick; Chase’s public apology wording; Browns QB decision discussion.

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Prize Picks Success

2:04 to 3:18

Discussion about their successful betting picks and promoting PrizePix.

“I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden.”

49ers Game Breakdown

3:18 to 4:54

Analysis of the 49ers' game strategy and player performances.

“I mean, they was – I think he had nine in the first drive, dude.”

Carolina's Struggles

4:54 to 9:48

Discussion on the challenges faced by the Carolina Panthers during the game.

“They got a positive play on the first down, but I think they got a holding call on the second.”

Defensive Highlights

9:48 to 11:46

Highlighting standout defensive plays from both teams.

“Like, just, like, that's man-to-man coverage.”

Field Goals and Game Dynamics

11:46 to 14:00

Discussion on scoring dynamics, strategies, and key plays leading to field goals.

“It was right before halftime, so they kept on dumping it off to McCaffrey.”

Analyzing the Game Flow

14:00 to 18:08

Discussion on key plays and turning points in the game.

“And then Herbert gets a run for like five.”

Evaluating Quarterback Performance

18:08 to 19:27

Debate about quarterback performance and the need for improvement.

“But McCaffrey, dude, McCaffrey did what McCaffrey does.”

Disrespect on the Field

19:27 to 20:53

Discussion about disrespectful actions in football and their consequences.

“You're just going up there and answering the bell.”

Disrespect on the Field

21:52 to 22:45

Discussion about disrespectful actions in football and their consequences.

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Parenting and Discipline

23:26 to 28:00

Discussion on effective parenting techniques and discipline strategies.

“Well, he did it like three times when he was like three, four years old, right?”
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Evaluating Quarterbacks: Bryce Young and Franchise Potential

28:00 to 29:10

The hosts discuss the viability of Bryce Young as a franchise quarterback amid comparisons to others in the league.

“And that's only up from 59 or 60 his rookie year.”

Ja'Marr Chase's Apology: Analyzing the Statement

29:10 to 30:48

The hosts break down Ja'Marr Chase's apology for spitting during a game, highlighting what he did right and what he missed.

“So, Jamar Chase, he said he was sorry for spitting.”

The Importance of Accountability: Spitting Incident Reactions

30:48 to 33:55

Discussion centers around the implications of Chase's actions and the need for accountability in sportsmanship.

“So you telling me you having to sit out was what made your actions unexcusable?”

Shadur's Opportunity: Starting Quarterback for the Browns

33:55 to 36:26

Hosts express excitement for Shadur starting for the Browns, discussing his potential and the current quarterback situation.

“Dealing Gabriel is clear, but Shadur will start versus the 49ers.”

Kevin Stefanski's Decision: Who Really Calls the Shots?

36:26 to 38:55

Discussion on the decision-making process behind starting Shadur, weighing in on head coach Kevin Stefanski's autonomy.

“Or do you think that it was other people who made the decision or made sure he made the decision to start Shador?”

High School Football Controversy: Coach's Actions Under Scrutiny

38:55 to 40:15

The hosts react to a viral incident involving a coach and a quarterback in a high school championship game.

“because I know for a fact Dylan Gabriel cannot do that.”

Leadership and Accountability in Sports: Setting an Example

40:15 to 42:00

The conversation shifts to the role of leaders in sports and the examples they set for younger players.

“He put his hand out there to hit, buddy.”

Discussing Accountability in Leadership

42:00 to 43:15

The conversation focuses on the responsibilities of leaders and the poor examples they set.

“That's just like, as a person, you just like, that's just dirty.”

Virality and Consequences of Pranks

43:15 to 44:16

A discussion about a viral prank that leads to serious implications, including calling 911.

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Analyzing Defensive Performance

45:17 to 49:49

A breakdown of the defensive performance of the Steelers and the team's current standing.

“You would need to look up their his current whereabouts is AT &T Stadium in Dallas, Texas.”

Future Outlook for the Steelers

49:49 to 55:19

Discussion on the upcoming games and potential directions for the team's season.

“You said, this is the worst Steelers defense we've had since 1988.”

Hopes and Expectations for Upcoming Games

55:19 to 56:00

The hosts express their hopes and expectations for the Steelers' performance in the upcoming games.

“If we lose to Buffalo, we have to win the next three.”

Pittsburgh Steelers Game Expectations

56:00 to 1:03:40

The hosts discuss their hopes and expectations for the upcoming Steelers game against the Bills, focusing on defense and team dynamics.

“We going to see a lot this week at Buffalo.”

Thanksgiving Game Preview

1:04:38 to 1:08:24

A conversation about the upcoming Thanksgiving games, including teams and player performances, with hopes for specific matchups.

“Because, you know, Joe Burrow come back, too.”
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2:04Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like him, subscribe. How you doing today, Joe? Doing great, brother Debo. Doing great. You know, another day on the set talking to my good man, speaking as football, you know how we do. Yes. You know what? Before we get started with the football, Joe, we went four for four on that prize pick last night, baby. That's my fault. That's my fault for questioning you. That's my bad for questioning you. I was worried about Kittle. You got it done. I damn had to strain you up so you ain't fade on your boy.

2:47I'm riding with you now, Debo. I'm riding with you for sure. Bro, we took 25 and made 275. Yeah, you made me a couple. You made me a couple dollars. Y 'all make sure you download PrizePix app, dude, and use the code D-BO-JOE. You understand? D-BO-JOE. All right, you don't want to miss none. Hey, PrizePix, we thank y 'all for coming on, man. We really appreciate it. Our very first sponsor. Hey, man, we knocked it out the part, too. Faux for foe, D-BO. My man, your man Christian McCaffrey got in the first drive. so that was solid solid dude 49ers get out there and like you said man the first five plays is McCaffrey he get a run and three I think it was a catch for another three that was a nice tackle by what's his name what the dude's name is which one Moraine something like that yeah dude Merrick that was it Merrick third down he got 10 They was giving him the ball every – he had eight touches in the first drive.

3:56Dude, I think he had nine. I mean, they was – I think he had nine in the first drive, dude. Nine of the 15, I believe, was all – was touched – the ball was touched by him. You know? And actually, on that third and 10, Merrick, he was just trying to disguise too hard. If he had stayed closer, he could have stopped him on that. Man, they ended up driving down the field. I think Purdy, he went like six, six or seven. Yes, he was a lot of dump downs, a lot of checks. A lot of checks, a lot of dump downs. They was just staying on time, dude. They was really staying ahead of the clock. They were staying on time.

4:30They get down there and Purdy, I think he hit Jennings for 12, 12-yard touchdown. That's when he broke all them tackles. And that was the one play horn and they was trying to punch the ball out. And they was being a little too worried about that and let the man break the tackles in school. You got a shorter tackle first before you go to punching that ball. You got it. That was his first bad play, but my man JC made up for that, for sure. Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely. Carolina get out there. They got a positive play on the first down, but I think they got a holding call on the second. They end up behind the chains.

5:04They punt the ball right back to the 49ers, and that man Purdy get out there and say, Hey, hey, go ahead. First and ten, pick. Horn went off. Hey, that was my best player. Brother, that's what I'm telling you. A lot of the plays they've been running against the Steelers, those bang eights. You know what I'm saying? Where, like, they get the play action, and then he runs the bang eights. That was man-to-man coverage. That was a great route recognition for him to make that play. So Horn was balling, bro. That was, like, great man-to-man coverage. Right, dude. Like, they're making plays. They're actually, like, even if he hadn't made the play, he was right there to make the tackle.

5:40For sure. Yes, bro. Yes. We go ahead. We get out there. Well, Carolina gets out there, and they get like a, what is it, five, three, something like that. And then on that third down, Bryce scrambles for seven more. Thank you. Anyway, they get the first and goal at the one, and he gets picked by Brown. Why are we even throwing the ball right there? You just got there. It's first and one. He could have still ran. But, like, why did he throw the ball at all? He could have walked it into the end zone. You know what I'm saying? He threw it back across his body a little bit into the end zone. That was just not a good play by him.

6:22I feel you. They should have ran the ball. They should have gave it to Rico or Chubbett. One of them two should have got the rock. But even when he's scrambling out, get to the pylon. You could have walked it in for a touchdown, and you just threw a damn pick. Makes no sense, bro. 49ers get the ball. They get the ball. again they're staring ahead of the chains they get to a fourth and one they get like three i think it was you know with a with a tush push that was a lot of yards on a simple that wasn't even a quarterback sneak quarterback sneak he's finding a gap yeah he just found the gap you know purdy ended up scrambling for nine on the second and seven they get the first down they get to the third down again and your boy gets picked again on damn near the same kind of route when the man hosts play these dbs my man wasn't a mike jackson do he got to get it out fast or these dbs just one thing is a little bit it's a little late you know what i'm saying but these dbs at the end of the day are making great plays on the ball they're like they're turning into the receiver so the quarterback he can lead it a little bit more but i'm not going to take away anything from these dbs that are going high-pointing the ball, you know what I'm saying, like not touching the receiver, running, running, running, not using their arms, you know what I'm saying?

7:43Like it's just straight feet. Yeah, they was moving, man. The defense was doing their thing out there, especially Carolina's defense, dude. They was doing their thing. I ain't going to lie, 49ers defense did well too, but they was going up against a little smaller animal than what they got over there in San Fran, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Carolina get out there. They go three and out because the receiver just totally hit them right in the chest. On that third down. Yeah. You're not good enough, but your team, you know, when you're playing with the Panthers like that, your team isn't that good to be just missing the normal catches.

8:22You got to have that. Yeah. Yeah. You got to have that. That's simple, clean. And you got to make some catches that you may not have supposed to have. Help your quarterback out a little bit. That's hurting your quarterback. God damn. Right. Yeah, bro. 49ers get out there and McCaffrey fumbles the rock. They got so lucky with returning. You see, what is up with the panic? Why is everybody just falling all over the ball? We had it. Fall on it. Just drop. Just drop. Just drop. The lineman came in there. They're trying to get there. He came in there and dropped. Madibi looking crazy. Right. He just so panicked.

9:01You know what I'm saying? And you got to just get down and just calm down. Calm down. Fall on the ball. Then they get to the second down and Purdy like, listen, I know y 'all missed, you know what I'm saying, that fumble recovery. I'm going to give you this. He throws his third pick, second time to horn. Brother, brother, brother. This right here, Debo was a master class in playing cornerback. This man has deep thirds, Debo. And George Kittle is the tight end on that side, so he's blocking. You know what I'm saying? And once you block, you can look across the field and try to find work. You might have an over.

9:36You might have a dagger. And he went and found the dagger and went and picked that ball off. Birdie's not thinking that the cornerback on the deep third on the other side of the field is going to come across the field and pick off your dagger. That's not happening. So, Horn, balling. Like, just, like, that's man-to-man coverage. And then that's zone coverage. You're knowing exactly what you're supposed to do. Your assignment is, quote, Kittle. Now, oh, he's blocking. Now I can look across for some more work. and go make a play, go steal something. Like, that play right there, I was like, man, this dude is not only a man making the play on the bang eight, pick, undercutting.

10:08Now you're just playing. This is zone. Now this is when I can use my eyes. I can read the quarterback. You know what I'm saying? So, God, it was just, I was so happy to see it because me being the quarterback, I know what you're supposed to be looking at. I know that you have, okay, you have thirds here. Now your next thing is coming across. You can go steal something. And he went and did it. I'm like, dog, bravo. Bravo, J.C. Horn. No question. Carolina get the ball back. The offensive horn, gone ahead, he make a nice run for 11 after a little short pass. Then, what was it, Downley? He ran for, what was it, about eight, weaving in and out of that thing, something like that.

10:45And then four plays, you know, they get a, what was it, they ended up stopping them. And the defense, you know, they held them to what was it. They held them to field goal. They go, yeah, they go three to seven. San Fran get back out there second down he his kiddo for that good 25 and then then yeah and then he tries to throw two more picks like in the zone he almost picked that joint off where Horn almost had he over kiddo and then the next joint my man it was high the kiddo and then the next one he ran that curl route for him and he good thing he threw it outside because he would have picked that too Right.

11:29He would have, yeah, if he didn't, they didn't misread each other. Yeah, he would have got that to him. So I'm like, ah, dang, Birdie, you out here, don't, you out here trying to give up the money. So Carolina holds them to a field goal. They go up 10 to 3. Carolina get back out there and 49ers force a 3 and out. So it is what it is. 49ers get the rock back. I think it was what? They, uh. It was right before halftime, so they kept on dumping it off to McCaffrey. Yeah, they did like three plays or whatever. Halftime ended up. I appreciate that, though. You know what I'm saying? Bro, they was giving McCaffrey all them yards.

12:13Yes, sir. All them dump all. Halftime is 3-10, baby. Yo, Carolina gets the ball and fumbles on the kickoff return, bro. Like, they got lucky. The dude that fumbled it, got so lucky he was able to recover that. dude, like, that would have been a disaster if they could have got that rock back. It would have been over with right in the middle. Oh, no, for sure. Because the Panthers, they didn't have no type of real offense. So if you keep giving the ball back, you saw your defense keeps turning it over, getting the ball to you, and you not doing nothing with it. Yeah, they get out there, first play, dude makes a nice run for about 17.

12:52Then they get a holding call. is first in, what, 20 now? They end up not being able to convert. DB made a nice play on that third down. He did, 37. Great play. The slant is the man. Yeah. Yeah, 49ers get the ball back. Here go that man, McCaffrey, again. He goes for 12. Again, this whole drive, they just basically able to stay ahead of the chains. They go like 13 plays, 80 yards. They finish it off with a 12-yard. Sweet to McCaffrey. Just easy. Yeah. They go up, what is it, 13 to 17 now? I think it's 17. 17. During that drive, I think that's when they lost Horn. I think he ended up going out with a concussion during the drive.

13:41So he was no longer going to be on defense for him. That was a big – I think that was a big hit, especially when you're a guy that's rushing, You ain't got him out there covering. You don't have more time to get to the quarterback. Carolina get back out there. Second is short. He gives, I mean, second down, he gives him a short little pass that he's able to, Herbert's able to turn to 14. And then Herbert gets a run for like five. Second down, it's Herbert again for like 10. And then it's Herbert again for six. It was a lot of Herbert. No question, bro. and then they're able to hit, I think it was McMillan for a 29-yard touchdown.

14:23Yeah, that was a good one. That was the quarterback's best pass of the day. Yeah, we're back in. They went for two. They went for two. Yeah, I would have kept that. Never take points off the board. I don't know why people do that. We're not scoring. We haven't been able to get in here. Let's just get the field goal. Yeah, it's 9-17 now. again 49ers get back out there here come McCaffrey and Kittle you know they get I think it was they get to like a first and 10 at the 15 yard line and back to back plays they actually stuff McCaffrey for a loss they end up being able to hold him to a field goal so it's 20 to 9 now and Carolina get back out there and like the first play DB like almost picked him off if he could have held on to it but now it's Coker Coker take a short one like 18 the next play is Coker for 9 then I think it was the second down and this was basically the end of it it was Brown's I think second pick when he went to try to throw that dig he broke on that joint so clean Y 'all say Hey Receiver's trying to push him off He held on to it a little bit I mean No harm no foul Yeah it was a little It was a little tug I mean he was trying to push off too Now he had the arm Fully extended I'm with you I'm with you Like if you pushing That's why You keep pushing out Hey you pushing I can pull a little bit Yes You trying to push me You know what I'm saying You're literally fully extending your arms To push me So I'll be looking at that The same way too Debo Like why you Why is it okay for you to push me So if you get a push and I get a little hand on you and they don't call nothing?

16:15Well, that's what it is. It is what it is. That's what it is. That's what it is. 49ers get out there and they get a delay of game on that second down, making them have to go three and out. They then gave Carolina the ball back. You know, second down, he goes for like 11. The next play, they hit like 14 and then they get 15, but it's an illegal touching. Out of bounds. Out of bounds. Can't do that. you can't do that and come back in and get that thing and then after that young got sacked for what negative what seven eight ten something like that he lost eight or ten yards something like that they ended up settling for a field goal attempt and they miss it that's all yeah it's done it don't it don't matter what you do after that like like this right here for me was like it was like a all-around team win, more like defense.

17:07I think for San Fran, the defense stepped up for the most part when Purdy threw those interceptions, bro. Like, the one interception, I believe they got nothing. The other interception, they may have got a field goal on one of them. and then the other one they were answering they were answering they got a pick they were going to pick for pick and then yes the other yeah the one interception it was a back to back so they went to pick for a pick for a pick a punt and a field goal they gave up three and got an interception back like that's how your defense is supposed to respond right I'm with you and San Francisco's defense only gave up what like 70 yards rushing I think Bryce had, what, maybe 170 yards passing, two interceptions along with that.

18:08But McCaffrey, dude, McCaffrey did what McCaffrey does. Like, that's what it came down. Almost 90 yards rushing, another 53 receiving. Kittle went out there and got him six for almost 80. You know, Purdy, yo, he got to clean up what he's doing, bro. Because if, you know, he left a couple picks out there, too. He could have threw a smooth five picks. An easy five pick day. Like, you playing against stiffer competition that got a better offense, this is not going to turn out like this. Oh, no, not at all. For me, it was Christian McCaffrey is amazing. And the ways that they use him, getting him the ball, like, I felt like I was watching the Little League game almost.

18:51It's like, get the ball to your best player. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's going to make something happen for us. So they kept on getting him to rock. Purdy, every time he threw the ball, you saw he was 0-2 for two picks if the ball went past 15 yards. So he was doing a lot of checkdowns, a lot of making sure, you know what I'm saying, staying ahead of the sticks, getting the ball to McCaffrey. But for me, he can't, you got to protect that rock. You can't be in any of those bang-age. You got to throw it to where your receiver can get it or nobody can get it. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, he got to definitely tighten up.

19:20Their defense plays amazing. They don't, just being able to step up when your quarterback keeps putting you in positions where you keep having to get on the field and you answer. You answer the call. You get another pick. You know what I'm saying? You give up a field goal. You give up a punt. You know what I'm saying? You're forcing the punt. You're just going up there and answering the bell. So I love the defense. I love how Christian McCaffrey was playing. But Birdie just had me looking a little crazy with any pass that went over 15 yards if you didn't know if it was going to be a pick or not.

19:47So he just got to tighten up with that. But their team is solid. Yeah, he was gunslinging out there. So at the end of the game, their jennies got punched in his manhood by Trayvon. You know, cheap shot. We can't show it, but what's worse? Spit on or being punched in? Which one?

20:13Damn. I would say spit, spit. You want me to go? Go ahead, Devo. Because I'm just flustered. I'm not trying. The levels of disrespect are just messed up. The levels of disrespect are what are we talking about? For me, the pain of being hit is going to be worse. But the disrespect of being spit on can't be compared. Okay, that's what I was trying to say because I'm like, if you get hit in the, if you get hit in the pride, you can't react initially because you're hurting. Like, you're hurting. I got to get you later. I ain't right there. You know what I'm saying? Listen. When you get spit on, Right.

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23:52So the same day he came over, he fired on me, right? I'm like, hey, no, don't do that. That hurt, right? I said, don't do that. That hurt. So a little while later, he comes back and he go to fire on me again. So I waited. I said, I told you don't do that. Yeah. So when he goes to walk around, I walks up to him and I pop him right in his, right? And I said, that's why you don't do it. It hurts. You sat him down as a, how old was he? Dude, dude, he was like three, four. This is the thing, dude. A three, four year old cannot understand reason. I got the most understanding, reasoning, discipline into my kids between the ages of like two and six because they couldn't understand me explaining to them.

24:40They don't have the capacity, but they understand reward and punishment. Yeah, right from wrong. So if I tell you to do something and to not do it, he may not even understand right from wrong, but he will understand reward. He will understand pain. That's one thing you understand. Like you go and you get little Johnny, and he's going over there and trying to stick his finger in that socket or stick a key in that socket or stick something in that socket, and you run over there and you tell him no, no, no, no, no, and you pull him away. And now he runs back over there and you tell him, no, no, no, no, no.

25:08You pull him away and you keep doing that. It just now became a game. He thinks you're playing a game. No, no, no, no, no. I'm trying to save your life. So me, I tell you once after I tell you once I correct you that correction. Then it's pain. He's like, you know what? If I do that, I get pain. He don't know that if he sticks that key in that socket, he's going to die. But he understands the pain. So you can't sit here and explain to a, you know, a two to six year old that you can't do this because it's going to risk your life. Risk reward. That's easy, dude. It's easy. And if you don't do that, you get kids that grow up into adults who don't listen, don't pay attention, aren't productive members of society and everything else.

25:51That's facts. But yeah. I'm doing the same thing with my kids. It's right from wrong. and I'm being able to like, if you do something, when you walk into the crib and you're doing everything the right way, I'm never going to be punishing you. But if you do stuff that's wrong, you know what I'm saying, I'm going to definitely let you know what it is. So, yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. Listen, I do not spare the rod, as they say. Well, I haven't had to do nothing with the rod in a long time. You know, one, actually, James was a little tougher than my youngest, Henry. You know, Henry, he couldn't take it.

26:25He was like, no, I don't want none of that. James probably, you know, his last one was probably about 12 or 13. Henry was way before that. If I come and I got a question to ask and it could possibly be some whooping behind it, oh, Henry going to drop the dime. He ain't taking the whooping. Nope. I feel that. I feel that. Yeah, dude. But the Panthers, they got a situation over there. The quarterback, Bryce Young, you think it's time for them to maybe move on from him? I don't think Bryce Young is that good. And that's no disrespect. He's a little small. Sometimes with his arm, he's just not making all of the plays.

27:15What they need to do is lean on their running game. Rico Dobbin, Hubbard is good. That rookie receiver that they have is solid. But you say it's time to move on? I think so. I'm with you. I would agree. Actually, I 100 % agree that it's time to move on. You got to realize you a first-round pick, not just a first-round pick. You were the first pick. Your improvement from year to year has to be greater than what it is. They want you to be, you know, a franchise real life quarterback and your improvements year to year haven't been that. I think his completion rate is still only like what, maybe 62, 63 percent, something like that.

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28:00And that's only up from 59 or 60 his rookie year. Like you look at, you know, you look at these Drake May. What is he like 70 or something completion? than your franchise quarterbacks like, you know, Dak Prescott, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, these guys are in the upper 60s, Jared Goff, all that. No. I think, yeah, I don't see a problem. When I look at him, and there's no disrespect, but sometimes like when you were, like you said, you're the number one overall pick, you've had your time, you've been able to go out there. But like when we're talking about franchise quarterbacks, these dudes are making$60 million a year.

28:41Would you want Bryce Young as your quarterback at$60 million? At$30 million? I'm just trying to figure out, once you get that good time to see what you have, then it's like we got to be able to – I don't think he's going to be able to win you a Super Bowl. So if that's the path, you know what I'm saying? I don't think it's the path. It's always the path. No, no. Yeah. So it's not going to be the path with him being the quarterback. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. But every team will hope the path is to win the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. No question about it. So, Jamar Chase, he said he was sorry for spitting.

29:19What he did was wrong. Can we put that up? Can we put that up? There it is. What do you think of this, Joe? I didn't even see those like this, Joe. I'm going to go ahead and take off for you. Give me a brief. This right here was like almost a perfect apology. Okay. Like, almost. It was good. Like, it was good. Whoever his team is that he had write this up, they did it good. They did a good job writing this up, okay? But it wasn't perfect, okay? He apologized to the Bengals. He apologized to the Steelers. He apologized to the NFL. He apologized to the coaches. He apologized to the teammates. He apologized to the fans.

30:08But... Oh. he had a he had a listen he had a small slip up there's one person he forgot and the small listen it was just one I'm just saying it was a small slip up then it was a big slip up so the small slip up is where he says this has been a tough season with some incredibly hard losses we've all been frustrated but instead of stepping up with calm and class and leadership I let my having to sit what he said, I let my having to sit out yesterday, whatever. Basically, he said him having to sit out yesterday made his actions unexcusable and it won't happen again. So you telling me you having to sit out was what made your actions unexcusable?

30:56No. You sitting out had you lose a half a million dollars. But that right there was just that was just a little slip. The big slip was finally I want to apologize to the fans. No. Finally should have been you apologizing to Jalen Ramsey. That should have been your finally. I highly doubt you called him personally. And if you did, you still should have put him in there because you made this public statement. You should have let the public see that too. Like you said, Debo, that was eloquently written out. He said, apologize to everybody, but the main person that you spit on. Right. And end of the day, I think, you know, you're saying, oh, because you sat out the game, your game checks are$400 ,000 a game.

31:53So, you know what I'm saying? They put you two games, you would have missed$800 ,000. You know what I'm saying? That was five. He missed five and some changes. Five and some changes. Okay,$500 ,000. So I'm like, basically, you're just saying that it was the money part. I just wish as a person, you would have just been like, You spit on Jalen Ramsey. There's nothing but words. Y 'all are always in the heat of the battle being able to go. So you apologizing to fans, people that wear your jersey, the coaches that have, but not the person that you actually spit on that was just literally y 'all are playing against.

32:19Y 'all are in the heat of the moment, you know what I'm saying, going at it. He did nothing out of line where – what was to cause him to spit. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just – It ain't nothing you could do that could cause me to spit. It ain't nothing you could say because he didn't. That's what I'm saying. We saw no actions that, like, it's nothing. So I'm with you. This is just an attempt to try and hopefully them reduce the fine because that's the only thing that could happen. But that's not going to happen because he already served the whole thing. And on top of that, the finally, you double back with the, I don't take anyone wearing my jersey for granted.

33:07Hey, I just lost half a million. Make sure y 'all keep wearing my jersey. I'm trying to make it out. I need that backpack. I need that back. That's it. I hope Jamal, man, like real talk, that the spittings part, you know how that is, but we were talking about it. There's no scenario where you should be spitting on anybody. I think honestly he does feel you know what I'm saying bad you gotta be feeling crazy the way people are talking about it and the way everybody says spitting is not acceptable I just wish he would apologize to the man that he spit on in the joint like hey listen man sometimes things not said are more important than things said

33:49and also

33:53So, Shadur. Let's get to these good old brownies, man. Dealing Gabriel is clear, but Shadur will start versus the 49ers. What do you think of that? I'm very, very, very happy about that. I'm excited. I'm happy for Shadur. I'm happy for the Browns. I'm happy for just Cleveland. I'm happy for Myles Garrett. I'm happy for Denzel Ward. I'm happy for the defense of Cleveland. I'm happy for the city of Cleveland. And this is no, and I love Dylan Gabriel too, but I wouldn't have wanted him to come back and to be able to come back. And he would have had to like, if they would try to start him or anything like that, just for the crowd being able to boom, you know what I'm saying?

34:35First incomplete pass. He doesn't deserve that. He had his shot. He had his time. He has six games to play. You know what I'm saying? Then he had his concussion. And then now Shador's time to go out there and play. And I'm just happy now. It just is what it is. He has his time that he can go out there practice. He can get all of his reps. Now he's going to play against the 49ers, and then we'll see. Hopefully, he just gets better and better each game. I'm not going to say the last one, when he was 11, for 20, for 209, that was just dropped. Oh my God, he's the best player in the world. No, but it's progress.

35:04It's something to move forward. It's something to build on. He can still, you know what I'm saying, from the first game, 4 for 16 to 11 for 20 to now, let's see what we can do. See if we can not have an interception. You know what I'm saying? If Jerry Judy doesn't fumble that ball, that's another drive that maybe Who knows what happens? You know what I'm saying? He could have scored again. So just being able to keep the ball, just keep the main thing the main thing. I'm happy now that he is named the starter so you don't have to worry about outside noise. He's going to be able to get his plays in, his first 15.

35:32He's going to be able to meet with the receivers. And all that extra work that you got to do, do it. You know what I'm saying? This is your time to be able to go out there and perform. So I just want him to lock in and keep that main thing the main thing. And you don't have to. This is why I would tell Shador. We're here for you. You don't have to project yourself out there. We know what's going on. We know about just you getting a little bit of practice reps. So you just go out there and grind and ball and just, you know, you got a great defense. You know what I'm saying? Be complimentary of your guys.

36:01You know what I'm saying? Because I know some people just don't like his swag and just the way that he carries himself sometimes. Bump that. If you're balling, you're balling. But I just want to let him know, like, we got your back for all that. But I just don't want him to give haters reasons to be, you know what I'm saying, just on his neck for no reason. Do you think that this was actually Kevin Stefanski's decision to start Shador? Or do you think that it was other people who made the decision or made sure he made the decision to start Shador? I think if he would have tried to come back and start Dylan Gabriel, then it would have just been all hell would have broke loose.

36:51That's not what I asked you, Joe. What did you ask me? I asked you, do you think it was his decision alone to stop Shador or did someone else make sure he made that decision? I would say that somebody else, I would say it was above his head. If he had to pick, I think he would have had Dylan Gabriel probably start. Just me personally. I think because I know he likes Dylan. That's his man. So if he personally, I think he would have started Dylan. But I don't think logically walking into that locker room, talking to other professionals, talking to your team, looking at Miles Garrett and them dudes in the eyes, you can't go in there and start Dylan Gabriel once he comes out of the protocol from what you've seen so far.

37:36and now we have Shador coming off the win and no fucking rookies had since 95. So he's going to start again. Dylan has six. Get his man. This is going to be his second game starting. Like he could at least be able to, you know what I'm saying, give him some time. So you can't just take him out and put in Dylan like he was fucking Tom Brady or like Patrick Mahomes just had a concussion and came back. No, we're talking about Dylan Gabriel. You know what I'm saying? He hasn't done too much, not knocking. But like now we have another rookie that's the quarterback that just won his last game. Let's see what he can do.

38:05You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I 100 % agree with you because if that was the case, he would have had more of a response instead of I'm just worried about this game. We're talking about this game when they asked if he would start next week. Yeah, it is 100 % was not his decision to alone. Like, they like, yo, you go in here and tell these dudes that Dylan is starting. They're not going to be happy about this, and you may lose the locker room. I think so. For me, personally, I'm starting him on one throw, and that was that 50-yard bomb on the money. because I know for a fact Dylan Gabriel cannot do that.

39:03He can barely get the swing pass out that ended up going for 66. Hmm. Yep. Debo, I'm picking up what you're putting down. Hey, matter of fact, picking up what you're putting down, they said a high school coach shoved the opposing quarterback on the sideline in the state championship. Listen, bro, I don't know exactly what, but I'm going to tell you right now. Hey, ain't no way it was a black kid, I promise you, because the game kept going on. And the quarterback, look, we got it. Yeah, hold on, hold on. Let me see that. Sit down. Can you make it bigger? I can't make it bigger. And then, yeah, the quarterback get kicked out because he throw the ball at him.

39:52Boom. He wants all the smoke. He like, what's the culture? Oh, my God. They saying he actually, the coach, they kicked the kid out and the coach stayed in the game. On the sideline. Man, listen, listen. Oh, my daddy, bro. Trying to step off like he just. That game ain't finishing. He gave him a good stiff arm, too. Look, all he had to do was move. He put his hand out there to hit, buddy. The contact. And look, laughing like it's sweet, trying to walk off like he ain't do nothing. not right hey decide the sideline he couldn't have stayed there they listen they had game over with football that's what i'm saying though you're a grown man you just put your hands on my side are you out of your mind this is hey this is the thing man like a lot of people will kill for anything.

40:53Very few people would die for something. I'm ready and willing to die for mine. There's nothing that's going to stop me from doing whatever I want to do because I'm going to die for it. I'm not. A bunch of people killed for stupid shit. How many people willing to go in there and die for something? Die for somebody? I know you are, D-Bow. That's how you get killed. Yeah. He's tripping. I mean, that's... You got... They're supposed to be dudes that are supposed to be teaching them, like, leadership. If anything, he's supposed to throw the hand out. He's supposed to try to protect the man from running into the sideline.

41:33Right there, you're supposed to catch him. You know what I'm saying? Like, end of the day, we know when you're playing against other teams, it is what it is. But you're never really trying to... You're not trying to... That's just dirty. You know what I'm saying? You're not really trying to just harm people outside of the game. Once you get outside the lines, it's all love. That's why when you finish the games, it's always... You dap up, you meet at the center, you pray together. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, we're playing a game that we love and we know it's a violent, violent, violent game, but you're not really trying to do weird things.

42:01That's just like, as a person, you just like, that's just dirty. There's certain things that you don't do, you don't hit. Like, what are you doing? And then you're trying to walk off and act like, you're supposed to be leaders of men and trying to teach these dudes how to be the best representation of themselves. And you out here looking crazy and no wonder, like, somebody's parents obviously will come outside of them. You trying to give him the example. That ain't the example you want to set. Terrible. That ain't the example you want to set. Terrible. That's crazy, bro. I hate saying stuff like that, man.

42:31Because they leading our kids. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. No, I'm not. If we put that, he going to jail. What? Hey, bro. This is. What? I guess this Philly dude is going viral for calling the police and saying there's a terrorist operating in the Eagles facility. Oh, my goodness. Offensive court. Hey, bro. Hey, we got the video, man. Show the video. What's the address of the emergency? I would like to report a terrorist operating out of Philadelphia. The Novocare Complex Center goes by the name Kevin Petullo. The emergency is in Philadelphia? Yes, the emergency. Hi, it's Karen in Georgia from My Favorite Murder.

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45:58Do a skit where somebody is aware. It's somebody fake doing that. People out here, some people losing their lives on this stuff. They playing with people too much, man. Some people not friendly. Some people don't like the play. You don't know. Ain't nobody always playing with you. You don't know what somebody's been going through that day. You know what I'm saying? Right. You don't know what I got on me. You don't know if I'm a kid seal carry person and you running up on me with something that looks like it can hurt me or take my life. I'm going to lay you down. These abuse trying to go viral.

46:26Trying to go viral. You going to jail in hell. Six feet deep. You going to jail in hell is crazy. Like, come on, man. Y 'all need to stop. My buddy on that joint playing with that terrorist attack, calling 911. Terrorist, dude. going to jail. They going to lock you up, man. As soon as they realize who you is. Y 'all go ahead and pick him up. Hey, run that video one more time so they can see your face real good. I snitch, I tell. I snitch, I tell. I snitch, I tell. You understand? I ain't having no parts of it. No what? Joe, who your defensive player of the week, bud? You? No. Exactly. who my defensive player of the week is.

47:15Let me see who it is. Let me see. Let me see. Who your defensive player of the week? Let me see. I don't know. I might have somebody. No, no, no. Who you got? Who you got? I'm looking. Who you got? Myles Garrett. Myles Garrett. And we won. Who is that? Myles Garrett. Generational talent for the Cleveland Browns. Our Cleveland Browns. 18 sacks right now. Three sacks in the last game. 18 sacks. Two forced fouls. Miles Garrett? Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett. Defensive player of the week. He stood on business. Are you sure? And Coach Stefanski gave him the game ball. You know.

48:01You know. Listen. I ain't going to lie to you.

48:09Until he did what he did. I was going with Will Anderson. That's not a bad choice. Houston, he was going crazy. But he went and did what he did. So I got to give it to him. I got to give it to him. I got to give it to him, Debo. I appreciate it. Yeah, but the thing I was looking at, I was trying to see his name on the stat sheet with the Steelers when we played. So I didn't see nothing in that S category. Yeah, yeah, yeah. you didn't because you, you know, so we, you know, we ain't too worried about it. Hey, let that worry about everybody else. Everybody else can worry about it. So I'm saying this to say, sack record, you just got to hope he get it before he, he faced the Pittsburgh Steelers in that last game.

48:56Cause, but hold up, Debo, what about, you got it. Are we going to talk about what you. All right. Listen, listen, listen. Okay. I'm just saying he ain't pissed a drop on us. Only thing I would be worried about, like I said, was the defense. And you personally thought I was being too hard on the defense. I really did. I really did. So I went on here, did some research, and I pulled up some stuff. And what did I send you on? What did ChatGPT say? What did they tell you? I really couldn't believe that you sent me this because I'm looking from just watching it. It doesn't look. I mean, sometimes, like, the open, the big plays, the gasses, the not jamming two, you know what I'm saying, in the seams.

49:39So the chunk plays that we're getting, I just was like, but we're bend, but don't break. You know what I'm saying? But I didn't know it was this much. I'm tired of that. We can't bend no more. Still don't bend. I'm telling you, you sent me this and it showed me it's too much bend. It's so much bend, I didn't even know. You said, this is the worst Steelers defense we've had since 1988. And it's just statistically, it was numbers. You sent me this damn chap GBT thing, and I thought you was tripping.

50:07We are rated the worst we have ever been rated as a defense since 1988. So am I overreacting? You are not overreacting. You are not overreacting. 23.9 points per game, 368 yards allowed per game, ranked 28th in NFL. Worst total defense ranking in franchise history per multiple sources. Okay? So when I read that out loud, you are not afraid. When I read that out loud, you have valid points. I couldn't hear you. Could you run that one more time, Joe? Okay. What was that? 2025 Steelers defense so far. 23.9 points allowed per game. 368 yards per game. Ranked 28th in NFL. Worst total defense ranking in franchise history.

51:04When was the last time we were ranked 28th, Joe? 1988. And we gave up 23.2 points the game at that point. And that's right from chat, GBT, right? From chat, GBT. Okay. Okay. Yep. Yeah. Here's the thing. We could savage this season. Salvage. We could salvage this season. But We have to knock off Baltimore twice. We have to beat Buffalo. Miami is a win. We have to. Cleveland is a win. We're going to shut y 'all down. Okay, see, there you go. Only problem is Buffalo, Baltimore, and Detroit.

52:02Cleveland, Dolphins. See, there you go. being this. Look, you know, you got to play the games. And that's what I'm saying with the stills. They better come out there and we got to we got to win it. It's not it's individual week, but we can't look past nobody. Hold up. Hold up, Joe. Hold up, Joe. Hold up, Joe. Hold up, Joe. You were saying that like you were saying that you wanted us. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying it like you need to expect. You better you better be ready. You just can't be glazing over people, Debo. That's how you get... We ain't glazing over nothing. We ain't glazing over nothing.

52:38They better not be glazing over nothing. That's what you just said. You like this. Oh, yeah. I'm guaranteed. Listen here. You want me to keep this 100 %? Keep it 100%. I'm going to keep it 100%. I'm going to keep it 150 with you right now. We're probably lucky if we split with Baltimore. We got Buffalo. We need to win. It's not a must win, but we need to win. Because if we don't beat Buffalo, we have to beat Detroit. Like, that means we gotta beat Baltimore, we gotta beat Miami, and we have to beat Detroit. We gotta get three in a row. We ain't got three in a row all year. Yeah. It starts off Sunday.

53:29I think we get Buffalo Sunday. We get Buffalo Sunday. And I'm saying, I'm saying this as, okay, because we already beat Cleveland. I'm talking it as a win. I'm saying this as how Miami has performed, although they went out there and put their foot in Buffalo's neck. That's why I'm saying you never know what version of the teams you're going to get. So we got to come out there and put belt to ass. And to be honest, bro, we're lucky, lucky if we get to 500.

54:05Buffalo could be a loss. Baltimore could be a loss. Miami could be a win. Detroit could be a loss. And I'm hoping we can beat Cleveland. Although the way Miles has been playing, I'm scared. I respect the honesty. That's what I'm looking for. Thank you. Period. All right. I feel that. That's just what it comes down to. And if that happens, everybody's gone. If it gets under it. And the only reason I would be like, okay, I'm hoping that we get playoffs. Don't even think about playoffs. I'm hoping we can get to 500 because that way at least Mike can save a few jobs. A couple people will have to be sacrificed for the greater good of the rest.

54:56But then again, that puts us back here where we're probably trying to fight for another 500 seasons instead of a championship.

55:09So I'm like six and one half dozen in the other. Yeah. What you think we're going to do? So say if it, you're saying bump the playoffs. If we lose to Buffalo, we have to win the next three. So we, dude, we have to win the next three. We won three, but it was a bye in between. So they had some rest. This was straight three. They had some rest. Bum, bum, bum. We got to go straight three. Boom, boom, boom. Now, physical games, bruh. Buffalo. Cook. Baltimore. Henry. Running the ball. Jackson. Derrick Henry. Lamar Jackson. I hope his leg ain't fully healed by then I hate to say that I know I used to want to play against everybody 100 % I'll pick you up on the way to the game now you want somebody in there limping in now you want them limping in I just want to win I just want to be able to sit there and be like this is the Pittsburgh Steelers we at least in the playoffs.

56:28We going to see a lot this week at Buffalo. Dude, I done lowered my standard. I'm just trying to get there. You're just trying to get there. I'm now hoping for 500. What the? Damn, D-Bow, how the tables have turned. But look, we got Buffalo this weekend. We going to be there and Pitt. So we going to be there real time. I'm going to be able to look and see and watch you. Let's hope for good, though. Let's hope for good. Oh, I'm always hoping for good. I'm always hoping for good. Is Mason going to be it? Is Mason starting? It's just so much stuff. Or is A-Rod? Do we know if A-Rod is starting? I don't care.

57:09I don't care who is there, man. The defense going to have to do it, bro. The defense going to have to do it. I don't care about the offensive side of the ball no more, bro. As long as they ain't turning the ball over. And I don't, dude, I don't care, man. Like we, and even if they turn it over, we have to stop. We have to stop and we have to put out fires, bro. Look at, look San Fran. They put out fires, bro. Yep. If we did that and gave up only three on the turnovers, on the three turnovers, they would only had, they'd had, what was it, 18 less points. You right. Sudden change. So the defense, like you said, if they don't school, they don't win.

57:57So the defense could really be the—they got to step up, especially making all— They have to. Defense, I keep like— It's not about names. Dude, we ain't got no money to get nobody on offense. So we are relying on our defense to do it. To make it happen. And that's something, man. Yep. And we are statistically the worst defense that Pittsburgh Steelers have had since 1988, bruh. That was cool. Was you even born? I was born in 89. That's crazy. You wasn't even born then. You was a thot swimming around in your dad's sack. You know? It was the worst defense since, what was that, 37 years? Because I'm a smooth 36.

58:40Dang. It's just, dude, I tried to do it. It's depressing, bro. I'm hoping they hearing all this, dude, because motivation is something, bro. I love being told what I can't do. I'm hoping y 'all hearing this. Dude. This what you did. This what you did before they played the Colts. Desire that you have, bro. I'm just not. Dude. Ramsey. Yes. I love it, dude. That dude want it, bro. I see him wanting it. He ain't turning nothing down. He giving you everything that he can give you out there. I'm not letting up on this quarterback. He got one foot in and I'm humming on him. I bet you if Ramsey was right there when Mikayla was running out there on that screen, he might not have finished that game.

59:32Yeah. I love Ramsey energy. He's bringing energy. He sets the tone. And now we got Herbic, too, Swat. Everybody just got to come out that thing and ball. Can't get pushed back, Debo. We have to establish a line of scrimmage. Again, scheme. A scheme, dude. what we're doing, what they're assigned to have to do. Yeah. Sometimes they're out of position. The position that they gotta be in ain't the one they should be in. But then, it's the same time too, Debo. The simple shit, punch and widen. You have to reroute number two. Like, dude, just listen to the interviews, dude. McQueen, he's like, yo, we know what's happening and they still doing, they still getting it done.

1:00:19We know what's coming, they still getting it. What is that telling you? we know it we ain't stopping it it still ain't getting done either somebody ain't getting it done or they ain't in position to get it done either way it go it ain't getting done but he's like yo we know it it's coming and we can't stop it hopefully that was actually on some interview where he said this you know how frustrated you gotta be to say that I know it no I'm saying as a player right now I don't I don't care I can say whatever I want to say like dude I thought we were bad when we were ranked 5 when I played with the Steelers dude we would talk to each other like bro we trash we were 1-1-5 2-1-1 dude we're 28th right now I don't even think I've ever played on the defense rank that low.

1:01:25No, me either. And you played for the Browns? Yeah, I did. And our defense was nice as hell.

1:01:36The Browns defense, when I was there, nice as hell, Debo. Be disrespectful. Our offense needed to pick up some. Our offense needed to pick up some. You know what I'm saying? That's why I had a bunch of quarterbacks when I was here. but that defense always was smacking ass all the time. Me, TJ, Dequale Jackson. You know what I'm saying? Gibson. You know what I'm saying? Paul Krugman. Okay, so now I'm over here at the defense.

1:02:06The Steelers need the Browns defense. Can't do. Is our, is, dude, I hope our offense ain't ranked higher than our defense. Oh, they have to be. They can't be ranked higher than our defense. Oh, well, shit. I would say your offense probably like 25 then.

1:02:25I'm not just thinking about it. Yes, making you mad. Right. I don't I don't I don't I don't We got to do something. We got to do something. We got to get it done. Like But every time I You just, you can't talk about the offense at all. I know the defense got to do better. I know defense got to do better. But it's a team game. The offense is trash. The coordinator is trash. We already know this, bro. No, but we got to talk. You got, you got, you got Aaron Rodgers. Even though he's old, you got him looking regular. We do got him. You got Aaron Rodgers looking regular. Stop playing. Damn. That's not his bad.

1:03:16It could be the vanilla. Yeah, you're right. The vanilla play caller. Stop, dude.

1:03:25Look, Debo. Listen, man. We're going to be there. We're going to be there in Pittsburgh. Matter of fact, we're going to be there. We're going to be there in the Washington Post. I'm in for motivation. And look here. Look here. We're doing a ticket giveaway, too. Okay? We're doing a ticket giveaway. Two. Sets of two. Okay? For you guys to come see us play. I want to say beat. I want to see us take on. Play. Take on the Buffalo Bills. Four o 'clock. Okay. We go announce it. Same way. Saturday. We announced the winner Saturday. We're trying to do it a lot earlier. You know what I'm saying? Than we did last time.

1:04:22We were slacking a little bit on that. But what you need to do, follow Joe, myself, Debo and Joe. Subscribe to Debo and Joe and like for your opportunity to win one of the sets of two sets of tickets. Yes, sir. All right?

1:04:47Now, Thanksgiving, around the corner. You see. Got a full slate of games, baby. You got Green Bay and Detroit. Great ball. You got Kansas City and Dallas. And you got Cincinnati and Baltimore. I'm hoping Cincinnati can be. I'm praying. I'm praying. Because, you know, Joe Burrow come back, too. They got Joe Burrow back. They got Joe Burrow back. Joe Burrow back for Thanksgiving. Hey. So it's going to be a good game. Yeah, but they defense can't stop a nosebleed, man. And Derrick Henry going to run over them boys, man. I just feel so sorry for them, bad for them. But I'm still rooting for you because we need you to beat Baltimore so we can get back.

1:05:33Thank you. Appreciate you. You got them good slated games. They're going to catch them. Good slated games for Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Listen. I'm going to get off here right now because I keep thinking about we having to play. Yes. It's Sunday. Be ready. This is what we going to do. We're going to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Because I was about to say something foolish like we was going anyway. Okay. Please make sure you guys hit the like and subscribe button. will be right back here on Friday after those Thanksgiving games. Joseph, do you have anything to say?

1:06:14No, sir. I would like to say thank you guys for tuning in. Catch us on Friday after these Thursday night games. Let's get it. There we go.

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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Monday Night Football where Christian McCaffrey and the San Francisco 49ers defeated Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers. Later, they react to Shedeur Sanders being named the Week 13 starter for the Cleveland Browns, Ja'Marr Chase apologizing for spitting on Jalen Ramsey, and much more action from Week 12 of the 2025 NFL season!

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02:20 - 49ers beat Panthers
25:37 - Ja’Marr Chase Apologizes
29:15 - Shedeur Sanders named Browns QB1
36:00 - High School coach shoves player
39:08 - Eagles fan calls police on Philly OC
41:40 - Deebo & Joe Defensive Player of the Week
43:37 - Steelers-Bills Preview

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