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28:25Taxes are finally transparent, easier, and handled. Visit TurboTax.com. Only available with TurboTax full-service experts. Real-time updates only in iOS mobile app. I don't know. I don't know. He's still there. I would think that, I don't know why they wouldn't. Do you think he had to get a test to become the defensive coordinator? So they're not testing him now? I think they're testing everybody. This is something new, dude. This is the first time we ever heard of this happening ever for anybody getting a head coaching job in the NFL. I think they're testing everyone. Are they testing the ones that's already there?

28:59I don't know. That's homework, essays, all that. Listen, Joe, this is why they're doing it. Why? The Haslam family started off getting their money with Flying J's. Okay. That's the truck stops, okay? It's actually nice. I went to a few of them back in the day. They're real nice. I was doing some long-distance truck driving with my brother, riding along with him. It's cool. Everything you get in one spot. But when he got that team in 2012, he became the majority owner. And I believe, what is it? He has a stake in, just got stake in Minnesota, sorry, Milwaukee Bucks in the basketball team. So in short, he don't know what the hell he's doing.

29:42So how does he fix that? how he did when he was running everything else that used understanding of how you get the information so they're trying to use that to get a breakdown of what is going to be a good coach by having them do something that a coach doesn't normally do and when it comes down to it from him it's just it's an investment boy it's it's the the roi like you have no knowledge or understanding another game. You're just worried about the investment, but it's getting so loud right now. He's tired of being, you know, he's tired of being in the basement and everybody talking bad about him.

30:22So he's like, yo, my people figured this out. If we do this and we get the personality trait and they write the essay the right way and all that, they're going to be a great coach. No, you got to know the game to be able to understand what you're talking to, who you're talking to, and how they're going to be able to go out here and help and develop your team. You know what I need? I need billions so I can go invest in ice hockey, a ice hockey team, and then wonder why I ain't got no success. But I still don't really care because the long-term thing, as long as my return on investment is right out good.

31:01Like, he don't know football. His family don't know football. And then I would say, too, in 2016, when we went straight analytics, We hired De Podesto, and he's a moneyball guy, and the Browns are really, really, really big in analytics. And I remember my man Mike Patton saying that we can use analytics, can be the tail, not the head. I think that the Haslams are just trying to be so smart that you can outsmart yourself. Do you know what I'm saying? sometimes you got to know that you're not the smart that you just can't analytic everything you know i'm saying it can help it can be an asset but that's not that's not all a ball do you know what i'm saying so i think that just not doing the normal things that just sometimes the simplest thing that you can see of like we don't have to like all these coaches are amazing coaches and have great minds for certain reasons us having to put them through all of these hoops nobody else does it and there's maybe a reason for it you know i'm saying like we start out thinking ourselves the the smart thing sometimes the simple thing is maybe the easiest thing and like no no that can't be it no no sometimes it can be it and i think we're trying to the browns management with the hazems and just thinking they're outsmarting themselves sometimes oh yeah and i don't even i don't i don't think they they're outsmarting themselves they're just so lost they have no other way other than what they can read on paper like they're searching for something that will give them a solid and they're looking at analytics and it's like oh the analytics work well the analytics works so much like hire you somebody that does analytics to be your head coach and they can analytic their way through it to be a good head coach you got to be a leader of men.

33:02That's true. Period. Like, they got to follow you. They got to believe you. They got to buy into what it is that you're saying you're doing. And then it has to come true on the field for you to be a good coach. When you coaching, man, you're not taking – you might not be the best test taker. Right. You can't read that in the essay. You can't write that. I can't be able to express myself on this. Exactly. the way I need to get to my guys, the way I can galvanize, the way I can teach, the way I can show things. Like, I don't know. Like, really, when the coaches really want to be like, Mike McCarthy, if they want to put any of these coaches through this stuff, Google me.

33:42Like, look at my, look at what I've done. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't need to be sitting here writing down this. I'm 60 years old. I'm 55 years old. Why are you giving me homework? Like, I've done this before. You guys are the ones that don't know what's going on. They might have their players start doing something before they draft them. Hey, man, give me an essay and do this and that. I need to check out your whatever it is. They already got – what is that? I ain't go through the draft. Was it a Wunderlich test or something like that? What is that? I think so. Something like that.

34:16I don't know what it is. You know me. I ain't get drafted. I took the test. I did straight. And then the Browns interviewed me too. And I went to there and it was solid. It wasn't – You didn't have to write an essay? I didn't have to write an essay. No, I still got picked. First round, seven. That's crazy, Joe. No essay. That's crazy. The Steelers, I guess they got a 2 o 'clock meeting to introduce McCarthy. Okay. I'm going to watch that. Press conference, 2 o 'clock. We're going to have to watch that. We're going to have to watch that for sure. I'm going to have to be on FaceTime with you. Yeah, yeah, we're definitely, definitely.

34:51Yeah, we're going to have to FaceTime on that. get up on that talk on Friday. But still, they said they're hoping to make a decision on Aaron. Rodgers, in the next month or so, I guess they talked to Mr. Rooney, Art Rooney, and he said, we don't know Aaron's plans right now. And that did not weigh heavily into the decision. I thought before it didn't weigh into the decision at all, but it says heavily now. And then it says, we'll see where Aaron is. And we left the door open, but obviously we all have to sit down and see if it makes sense. So he's actually saying, eh, we got to sit down and see if it makes sense.

35:38If it don't make sense, then, because, you know, they're saying, like, when Aaron left, they wasn't, I mean, McCarthy wasn't too cool no more. Like he said some stuff about his IQ, you know, being the lowest of, you know, any coach that he had been involved with, stuff like that. So, you know, he said, so we're he said, so that's what happens. So in the next month or so, but the decision will be based on Mike being the coach. He said the decision was based on Mike being the coach we want. And it's really hard. is that it really had very little to do with whether Aaron is going to come back or not.

36:24Okay. You want Aaron back?

36:29Just the thing. It's not that I don't. I was just down for a restart. And if A-Rod does come back, it's going to be probably, it's going to be for one more year. And the numbers are right. A-Rod came back. He did what he had to do this year for$14 million. A-Rod come back next year for$10, you know what I'm saying? Like, end of the day, he's not hitting the cap. He's not hitting nothing. I don't – I'm not – I wouldn't – I don't think for the Steelers, this is not what we want. I think – I'm ready for a new. I'm ready for a new. I'm ready for a new. Yeah, it's nothing against Aaron. It's just that in the process of trying to further the organization, like, that doesn't further us, I don't think.

37:15And McCarthy said he or Art said he likes that McCarthy told him that he likes he likes Will Howard, thinks Will can go on and, you know, have a have a tremendous upside. He's looking forward to working with him, you know, all that stuff. So I would rather go and, like, see what Will could do. And if, you know, something falls and, you know, get some low-hanging fruit that might have, you know, fell somewhere else. And later, I don't know. Even if, like, we crash out, like, maybe that's a good thing, you know? Bro, Deebo, that's what I'm saying. It's going to be eventually a time to crash out.

38:00And the Steelers are saying they're ready for a rebuild. You're ready for a rebuild? They ain't saying they're ready for a rebuild. We could reload. If you don't want to call it a rebuild, you can call it a reload. But you got to call it a reload while if you don't have the quarterback at the time, you're still going to work with Will Howard. We drafted him. He's a big body. He was in Ohio State. I've seen him throw it to Jeremiah Smith. Those fade passes, Jeremiah wasn't getting it thrown to by nobody else. He was throwing it to him. Will Howard threw it to him and to the best receiver in college football.

38:30Look good to me. Let me see what he can do in the NFL. He's a big body. You know what I'm saying? He's not like a small dude, short, can't see over the line. He's a big dude, and let's see what he can do. During that time, DK Metcalf, that extra$33 million, he got suspended so you can avoid that. Get rid of it. That's another$30 million. They didn't get rid of that. But they can. No, they kept it. They said they wasn't avoiding it, yeah. Ah, so they kept it. So you know what? Way to go. Well, who you going to pass the ball to? You get rid of him. You would have$30 million to go get somebody else.

39:01I'm just saying because I didn't think DK was a legit one no more, getting open, making, creating space the way that you needed it. So if you want to make wholesale changes, that's an extra 30 for a number one receiver that I'm like, in my eyes. What you going to do with the defense, though? That's where all the money is. Look, the defense, the only thing is we're going to like, like you said, Queen might have to like just certain high value people that are making a little bit of money might got to go. Do you know what I'm saying? So I'm looking like a Duggars contract, he's going to get restructured.

39:32You know what I'm saying? I don't know what they have. We have places that we can move. I'm not going to speak on the exact names right now because I want to do it in a certain time. No disrespect. But Steelers can make moves with players and there can be things moved around. And if we're talking about rebuilding, I mean reloading, we're going to have to work on. We don't have a franchise quarterback. We have no franchise quarterback. We have no franchise quarterback. We have nobody that we see as being our franchise quarterback. No, that's okay. Okay. Until we get that, we are just floating on the water without gas or a sail.

40:17We have no direction. We are at the way of whatever the water flows. That's it. That's it. So you can you can either rebuild by choice or you can be forced to rebuild. Choice you make. Force, it ends up happening through how you play out the course of the year and the years, however that may be. But I think an intentional direct focus rebuild will get you a better result than having to be forced to do it. Now you scrambling. So what is your moves, though, Debo? So what is your moves then right now? I'm going to go with the two I got. I'm going to pick up something in the draft, not high or nothing like that.

41:06And I'm going to fill in any spots that I think I need to try and fill in that I'm going to end up either letting go or losing and let it play out. And wherever it puts us in the draft next year, it puts us. Hey, I'm ready. Listen, I know we're going to be down. I'm trying to tell you. Listen, y 'all better listen. We're going to be down two, three years. No, that's what I'm saying. You're going to be down regardless. So it's like, I mean, I wouldn't just waste a pick and say, I'll just go get another quarterback in the draft. No, I'm not going to do that. I'm saying, like, I'm going to roll with what I got.

41:44If it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't. But that's what I'm going to be with. Yeah, for sure. Y 'all going to be mad if it don't work and booing and all that. but that's just what's going to come with it. We got to be getting offensive. We got to be getting linebackers. We got to be getting offensive line. We got to be drafting other wide receivers. These three positions during this draft, we need to be getting these players or bringing in free agents or getting somehow. This is when we're bulking up the players of making these new guys that we're drafting nice because they might not be the best of the best this season, but then next year, then we're trying to know, is it just the quarterback that we need?

42:22because we buffered the wide receivers. We've got the fire linebackers, you know what I'm saying? Joey Porter's still here hooping, you know what I'm saying? So seeing how people, Herbic, Highsmith, you know what I'm saying? Seeing how we move this, who gets signed, who gets extended, and the players that we do bring in at the wide receiver spot. Do they ball out? Do we get it when we draft? Not just throwing out that quarterback. No, we get a high, nice receiver. to see now if Will Howard has one there and DK's still here for that last year because we didn't get rid of his – we didn't void his contract.

42:57So we still got DK. Then we draft another receiver. We draft a linebacker. How good are these dudes? You know what I'm saying? So if everybody performs and if you hit right, you're not going to be terrible. You'll have a nice class of young dudes in there that are balling with Will Howard and make him just hand the ball off, get it to DK. I understand what you're saying. But again, if Will Howard doesn't turn out to be that franchise quarterback, but he turns out to be enough combined with the offense, defense, special teams, that puts us again in purgatory medium. We're still not going to be able to get what we need.

43:35If you just I can't you can't you can't just so say so you just want. Listen, I'm agree with you on this. high value contracts that we don't feel is getting what we need or is too much for where it's at got to go why because that opens up a lot of room to be able to grab people in free agency this one i'm telling you to those spots and but this is this is this is a good problem you know if you say if will howard is good and ends up playing well with the guys that we have and they end up being eight and eight or whatever right and you know that we just need a quarterback like that's the main thing, then we can go get that.

44:16Ain't nobody giving up quarterbacks, Joe. We had to trade up in the draft. Okay. That's a possibility. You know, once we can start getting these picks and accolading picks and know we got two first round picks. We only got Will Howard, he's cool, but we just need one. Trade that Joan up and get a higher pick so we can go get one. If that's the only one thing that we need, then we could be able to, all right, hopefully let's finagle it. But if Will Howard is doing cool, I think draft that other pieces that we need, not just trying to figure out, find a quarterback randomly. But it's going to eventually happen.

44:50I think not eventually, but next year. We'll see, man. We'll see how it'll play out. Keep an eye. Watch the 2 o 'clock presser and see what McCarthy talking about. We'll go from there. but uh what is he green law he said he said it was physical over there he said he said peyton he said that man was physical over there on them boys he said uh what did he say he said he said sean peyton old school that way he said he told reporters sean old school he's going he's going to do six days on one day off he's got his way of doing things. You're going to be practicing three hours on Wednesday. Can you practice three hours anymore?

45:40I don't know. Three hours on Wednesday, three hours on Friday. Shanahan, he said he's complete opposite. He wants you fresh. Listen, Joe. Yup. My first training camp, bro, when I got in, we was in training camp for at least 30 days, if not maybe 33 days, okay? We practiced twice a day. Now, I'm shells was helmet and shoulder pads. So it was still full contact. Yeah. Just didn't drag nobody to the ground. Second practice where everybody come to see were the fans out there. Bro, that was full contact to the ground. Bang. Yes. Bang. And that still did not prepare me for my first full game of play in the preseason, dude.

46:31No, for sure. Never forget it, bro. We were playing Detroit in Detroit. It was the third preseason game. And I think one of our linebackers or a couple of that, however it went, it went down. So I was the first person to go in after the starters were out. And I'm still on all the special teams or like all that stuff. Dude, that game, I knocked myself out hitting the tight end. Listen, bro. Listen, bro. I knocked myself out hitting the tight end, okay? And the timing of it, bro, was like I blinked my eyes, closed my eyes, and opened it. And when I opened my eyes, all of a sudden, the trainers were around me.

47:18Yes. They were on the field. Yes. I'm like, what y 'all doing here? They're just like, you was out. I'm like, no, I'm not. No, what? Yes. They're like, yeah, you were. How you think we got here? Bro. Yeah. But after that game, I called my dad, bro. And I said, I said, Dad, I said, I don't know if this game is for me. See, chill. I said, my body feels so bad, so hurting right now. Yeah. They don't play. You know what he said? You know what he said, bro? He said, you'll be all right. He said, you just got to toughen your body up to it. Got to get used to it. used to it. He was right. No, for sure.

48:04But that's old school, bro. That's old. This new stuff that they doing now, bro, I could have played 30 years in this. Bro. And when he's saying this, Debo, he gotta... I think it's literally against the rules now, though. I don't know. It might be some type of... But speaking against the rules, McCarthy. Now, McCarthy 22 and 23 with Dallas. NFL fined him for OTAs being too physical. So all them boys in Pittsburgh that was used to getting this day or all that stuff. No, he going to come in there and he going to be like, I got to see what I got. I need to bring the Pittsburgh back to Pittsburgh.

48:51He a Pittsburgh boy. I need to bring the physicality back. I don't want to see my guys getting pushed around. I want to push guys around. He going to bring the physicality back. Ain't no better place to do it than OTA as soon as you start. You might be catching a fine or two, but hey, they're going to be physical. The game has changed because I remember my first two, the two-a-days, Debo. They will make you, you're coming out there and you'll be, when you had on shoulder pads and helmets, the only difference was you weren't taken to the ground. That was full contact. You just weren't tackling.

49:21You had to hit, wrap that thug. You got to stop the tackler. That's almost harder for the DBs. I'm like, now you make it You got to break down, control yourself, fit up and wrap. For sure, you got to put yourself in. All this eye tackling, mistackling we got now. No, all that arm tackling. No, you had to put your face on someone. You had to put your pads on the man and make sure that embrace. So I understand completely how coaches had that different kind of coaching style because all that like running in, tagging off, that's not getting you. You don't say you're professionals. You know how to tackle.

49:52But there's nothing like full speed reps. when somebody can really juke you or run you over. Yes. So you got to be able to come in there knowing. I'm like, you got to come in there ready. Not like coming there playing. No, no, no. It's not a game. That little tag off, that's not football ready. So I understand like it's a lot harder, but end of the day, the injuries and everything, but there's nothing like football. There's nothing like going full speed. And the teams that do a little bit more contact, the teams that do do a little more hitting, your pads are ready. Like you can't get ready for hitting besides hitting.

50:26I know when I started getting older, like, no, you, you, you, you know what I do? I'm like, man, I still need to pull my pads up. I might need to pull my pads up a little more than you. You know what I'm saying? Like, so that I definitely understand it, but the health part of everything, but there's nothing like I love that. You're going to need your plan. It's a long season. So if you can't go get it in now, get your body ready, because all that training, all that warm-up, all them DB drills that we're doing during the offseason is nothing like when you really got to come fill, when you really got to come tackle and wrap somebody up.

50:56And that's what you see, though, in these defenses. When, like, linemen, D-linemen, they're engaging. Your guys are engaging way more than us. DBs, we got to come in there and get active. And I think the best teams are the ones with tackling DBs. You can tell the ones that really want it. the ones that are coming down for that crack replace, the ones that really want to smoke. And I think that's from, they ready for hitting and they used to it. And that's what football is. If you come into training camp and be like, yeah, it's live and dude's looking funny. I'm like, it's going to be live in the game?

51:27I'm about to come chop this man down. Are you tripping? What you mean is live? We got on shelves, helmets and swords. Yes, you hit, rap, stop him, and then you can let him go. And then keep him going because we need that pursuit. Right. We need to thud in. Then keep letting him go. You're letting him go. Everybody keep chasing. Everybody got to touch him. Everybody got to get a thud in. Everybody got to touch him. What we talking about? Yes. Like this, dude, nowadays, and like you said, like he said, rather, Peyton Old School, man. Come on. Like, he probably to the edge. He probably to the very edge of it making sure he don't cross it because I ain't heard nothing about no fines.

52:03So, he make it. Listen, I'm going to get all I can because when it come down to it, the game is played. tackling and getting people to the ground. I'm going to do everything I can to stimulate that every year that I can. I respect the tackling, the thudding part, the making sure you put your pads on them. I'm loving that. People aren't getting hurt from that. When you start swinging people to the ground, people getting beat, start pulling, all that. Yes, but if you're playing regular good football, fitting. Running a business is hard enough, So why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other?

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56:09Now, yeah, that's football. You got to get yourself into that position because otherwise you're going to be looking crazy. Yeah, and that's the same thing. Like, the runner back is coming. He's trying to run through you even though it's shells in there. So you got to realize when he's trying to run through you and when he's trying to run around you, and you got to come in there and meet the force with the force that he's coming with. But, like, you can't just, oh, I'm coming in to tap up. No, you're going to get your chest blew out. You're going to come in there and thud up on him and make sure you shore up that tackle, bro.

56:40Dion over here in Colorado, he finding them boys, man. Yes. Yo, you like the new system, man? I love the system. This is my thing. You need to be treated as if you are a professional. Like, you're getting paid to play now. and hopefully next level is. Practice was always a thing, though. Like, that's scary for me. I was scared to be late for practice. Like, dude, you want to be early to meetings, early to practice, make sure everything is right. Like, the times, if I wake up, like, my nightmares would be waking up with my alarm and being late to a workout. I could, that could really, like, shock the system.

57:22I would think about crashing my car to be like this. Hey, I'm going to tell you this story. I would think about crashing my car to be like this. Oh, my God, now, Coach, we got an accident. You know what I'm saying? Like, I would risk it all instead of missing the meeting because the punishments and the authority, like, I did not – that's not what I was on. So, for Coach Prime, yes. Where else would you be? Where else should you be? You should be here early. You should have your body right. You should be taped. Like, this is the main thing. It's the main thing. Class, all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

57:53But you're getting paid to come here and play. Like the NFL, like when Coach Mangini, that's one thing I respected. My rookie year, I was a little bit wild. Like I just wake up, oh my God, panicking because I was out. Noah was coming. I would be pushing it and contemplating. I might have to wreck just to be like, oh my God, no, something happened. But like those are just very, very fearful times to teach us growth, maturity. You have nothing else. No, you have to be a professional. You get fined. We will come in that thing. Nobody will say nothing. I will have a fine right in my chair. It's like max fine$5 ,500 if you're a minute late to a meeting.

58:28You know what I'm saying? Like Mangini did not play about none of that. So you should. I respected it. No, no, no. You know what I'm saying? So like Coach Prime doing that, it keeps accountability on the players. And where else should you be? Definitely. I remember I was scared to death to ever miss a meeting with Urban Meyer. Clean the whole weight room would punish us crazy. Like that was the scariest time ever. No. So, yes, Coach Klein, find these kids because that's what you should do. They're getting paid to be here. You should be nowhere else. But don't – I'm not telling nobody to talk about wrecking their car, but I'm just saying how scary it was.

59:04Bruh, I'm going to tell you a story, bro. I'm going to tell you a story. I don't – okay, so it wasn't me. It wasn't anybody I know. It was somebody I heard of. Point is, I'm not going to let y 'all have any clue who this is. But a person was late to a meeting that was going to be late, right? Yeah. So as they're driving to work, they realize they're about to be late. That boy said, thousands and thousands of dollars fine or this$500 deductible. He cut it into a telephone.

59:45Hey, Coach, I done got an accident. then. Hey, I know I'm not tripping. I'm telling you. Oh, man, bro. Yes, bro. Yes. It get like that. It get like that. Get like that. That's good. Don't do it. Yeah, so Coach Prime, keep them, man. Hold them kids accountable. Bro, I'm all for it. I'm all for it. I'm 100 % for it. He ain't finding them a whole bunch anyway, and if you can't afford it, don't be late. Don't be late. Don't be late. If your NIL deal ain't got that much money in it, don't be late. You should be early. I tell my kids, if you're 15 minutes early, you're never late. You're never late.

1:00:34Joe. There's no class. There's no meetings that are scheduled for you. You won't be able to miss anything. Everything's scheduled around your schedule. You should be able to, there's no, you're never double booked with school and football. Right. Your boy that pulled out after the Bills job, he pulled out for nothing. I guess the Bills just promoted the OC, Joe Brady, to head coach. I guess Joe Brady's been there with the Bills since 2022, starting as Josh Allen's quarterback coach, then becoming the offensive coordinator, and now will serve as the head coach of the Buffalo Bills. And Josh Allen, they said, was sitting in on the meetings.

1:01:19So, obviously, he had some say about this. You like it. You dislike it. But they all in. I realize. They all in. Joe Brady has two years to win the ship. Yes. Like, you know what I'm saying? You came through with the team. Your man was sitting in on the meetings. Y 'all are with each other. You and Josh are together. So I know from Buffalo and your leash is short. You know what I'm saying? I'm happy for you. I hope it goes very, very well. But this is a situation where McDermott, he got the short end of the stick, threw you to Ali U. You don't have time for like, no, no, it was going to be a four-year rebrand.

1:02:06No, you got Josh Prime. Now, hopefully you can go get whatever you think that you needed to make it better or do whatever. but you got two seasons, Coach Joe Brady. You got two. Listen, bro. So now that's making me think like was this an inside job? Did he actually go and be like, hey, he ain't doing it right. I could do it better. You know, because the owner came out was like, hey, the GM didn't want this receiver, but the coaches did. But ain't he wanted the coaches too? What's going on in here, bro? What's really going on? Like it feel like it's some inside work going on here, bro. All I know is, yeah, he got a little bit of time, brother.

1:02:49He got a little bit of time. They got to turn up ASAP. You know, what was the Ravens owner was like, yo, they have say, but they ain't going to have no power. It sound like it's power over there. Mm-hmm. It sound like it's power over there, man. Like, definitely. You talking about, yeah, Josh Allen. Yes. The opposite of what the Ravens owner said, that man Josh Allen was sitting in on the joint, and he ain't say nothing about he's got an opinion, but he don't got no power. I think, yeah, you right. Josh got a little power. I want to hear. He said, I want to hear all their opinions, but they have no power.

1:03:22Mm-hmm. I think they might have been sitting next to each other, Josh Allen and the owner and this man. Hey. Like, it's a... Josh, I looked at bruh. He looked at bruh. Bruh looked at Josh, I was like, hey, what you think, man? Hey, I'm trying to tell you. Hey, or maybe they, you know, the owner just made a snap decision. and like, yo, get him up out of here. And then when it came down to it, the team was like, yo, how you get him out of here? Like, he did this, did that. And they was like, well, we can't, we get somebody else, we might lose everybody, Josh and the Means. Like, yo, you know they pissed off now.

1:03:55You get somebody else. I don't know if I'm going to be able to get these boys to follow you. But, you know, my OC right here, I know he going to call what I want, what I like. So go ahead and give old Joe Brady the job, you know. Hey. And now I'm the quarterback. Hey, OC, I just got you this job, man. Hey, let me call what I want. You hear? Bro, I just hope that it works out for them then. I mean, not all the way because they're going to be having to beat our teams. But Josh Allen deserves it. Deserves what? Well, he did bad this year. He did bad this year. He deserves to have power? No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1:04:42To be successful. To be successful. Well, he's kind of in control of his own success. Yeah, he didn't have to fumble the ball all those times. I just feel bad for him, man. Feel bad? Yeah. Would you feel bad if he was playing against you and beat you because he didn't fumble it? No. Would you feel bad for him, Joe? I'm not playing, though. What you talking? You know what, man? Joe, listen here, Joe, man. Well, hey, go on and get that wish-aside sauce before I whip your ass, boy. Life. Hey, man, we got a super chat. JJ Carvey80, he said, do you think Prime's policy will hurt him in recruiting and protocol jumps?

1:05:31And portal jumps. Talking about the portal? Portal jumps, I'm tripping, yeah. No. No. I mean, I think that he's not finding the kids crazy amounts. Right, dude, the mouth's not crazy. It's a little bit of bread. 500, 1500. But like, I don't think these kids are really, how many of them are really missing meetings? I think this just gives them more incentive to make sure. I don't know too many people that have been late to too many meetings when I was in school or when I played, like, college ball or in the league. Like, that's not really a thing unless, you know, that's just not something that happens, and I think you need to be held accountable if you miss meetings.

1:06:18And I don't think this is something that kids would not go to a school for a fine. I mean, that's— I think it's smart, dude. I think other schools will adapt it, you know what I'm saying? Because when it comes down to it, the only thing you could do when we miss meetings was punish us with workouts or running it's usually running and if you're in season you're kind of uh defeating the purpose you're kind of handicapping yourself i'm gonna go and punish this dude because he was late i'm gonna make him do extra running and do all this other stuff get up early and have to be there for this and that and when i'm doing that i'm actually tearing his body down and i need to go in this game and perform at a high level for me.

1:07:01So you're handicapping yourself. And when it comes down to it, you really want to hurt somebody? Grab that money. Grab that money. Grab that money. I'm going to tell you, bro. I'm going to tell you right now, bro. You want to hurt a man that is making money? Anybody that is making money, take they money. Like, I ain't even fighting no more, bro. Hit me, and I'm, depending on who you is, I'm waiting on Jeff Bezos to just slap me across my face. I'm going to swear I can't look at nothing. I can't go out the house. Legally blind. I need my emotional, mental capacity to be able to deal with anything is gone.

1:07:47I cannot see. I'm going to need at least, there ain't nothing to you, just give me one bill. One bill. But if you want to do it right, I settle out of court right now for half a bill. Yep. Yep. I settle out of court right now for half a bill. And tell them how scared I am every time I see an Amazon thing. I see Amazon. It's good. Every time. I see a truck. I panic. I think he's getting out of it. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? Can't anybody say a word? Start with a B. Oh. Just spooked. Straight up. Spooked. Out of control. I can't even order from there no more. I don't even... I can't listen.

1:08:23I can't watch TV. Oh. I'm going in, in, Joe. Look here, brother. We going to be back here on Friday talking about you know who. The press conference between them boys and see what's going down. We got to see what they're saying. See what they're saying. And I guess maybe the Pro Bowl. Listen, man, I don't understand this Pro Bowl thing, man. Like, it's a flag football game, bro. What are the D linemen and offensive linemen going to be doing? They don't do. They do. They got other games going. They pushing sleds and running obstacle courses and all of this stuff. It's skills challenges, D-Bo. Dude, this is the thing that made me mad, dude.

1:09:06The first year I made it there, they took away the skills challenges. Dude, I was getting ready for that. I wanted to do that. Bruh, I was waiting on the 225 bench. Bruh, I was trying to go in there and push that thing out about 45 times. God. You was going for the record. Oh, bruh, I was going for the record. I was trying. And then they took it away. I'm like, wow, that's crazy. That's out of control. The fun part of it, they took out. The bench press was lit. I wanted to see. They need to do the bench press was lit and the longest throw for the quarterbacks, bro. I love watching that joint. I could have gotten that.

1:09:44I'm throwing a 65 right now. Oh, no. I'm getting every bit of 70. All right. Next time I'm with you, I bet you I'll throw you. I bet you don't. I bet I do. Okay. Okay. Bet. Bet. Okay. Ten anytime push-ups is the bet. Yes, ten anytimes. Even on the show. I'm like, man, you're going to slang. Hell no. Give me two. Give me two. I slang that thing, bruh. Like, I'm talking, you thought that Josh Allen could throw that, bruh. I'm trying to tell you. and it's the flick of the wrist like you know I threw for 72 touchdowns in high school that was high school Joe I never threw a touchdown I just threw it long I was a deep ball champion we gonna see bruh I was deep ball champion in the deep ball league from 2007 to 2023 the deep ball league yes how long you can throw the ball where's the deep ball league Bruh, it's big.

1:10:52It's big. You are blatantly lying. All right, watch this. It's so underground, bruh. Because people don't be wanting to, you know what I'm saying? Like golf, like the long shot. The longest drive. Longest drive. Yeah. That's it. But it ain't catching on. It ain't catching on. It ain't been catching on. You want to see. And the league collapsed in 23. That's why I was only the winner until 23. You know what I'm saying? But I held it. I held it. The day I stepped in until the day it shut down. We going to see. I was that dude. And I'm still that dude. You cannot throw the ball farther than me. That's just a fact.

1:11:33Bruh, I'm trying to tell you, Joe. Listen, you probably throw like Peyton Manning did in his last years. You better ask about me, man. Who am I asking? I got a rifle. Ain't nobody ever seen you throw. Pouncey seen me throw too. I used to throw the ball with Pounce with that goal post game before practice. That's 20 yards, bro. I used to back it up every 10 yards. And I used to go back to the 50. Goal post from the 50. That's nothing. That's nothing, bro. I was goal posting from the 30. No way. The 30. The 30 in. No. The 30 out. No. So, all right, we'll see. Bro, you up here, you playing games, bro.

1:12:20I'm trying to show you. I'm going to tell you something, man. Like, this is what I do. I throw. I throw. I throw a baseball. How fast do you throw a baseball? See, I don't know. Wow. I don't know. I had to step away from baseball early. I was a pitcher, you know what I'm saying, because I played quarterback. I was 12 years old. You know what I'm saying? All-star game. I pitched it. He hit that ball back, knocked me right upside my head, It knocked me unconscious. Never played again. Oh, you got scared. Oh, I got put to sleep. Yeah, and I was okay. I wasn't as good as I am in basketball and football.

1:12:56You know what I'm saying? I didn't have to worry about that because they couldn't hit it. They couldn't hit it. Yeah, all right. You ain't play against the players I played against. I played against. Stop playing, man. I played against Julio Ramondo. It was Sammy Sosa I played against. Bruh, I played against Barry Bonds. No, you didn't. I played against Ken Griffey Jr. and Sammy Sosa when I was 12. I played against Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire. Nope. Nah, he lying. Nah, he lying. I was throwing them heat to get them ready for the professionals. Because they was throwing, I was throwing so fast, they was trying to be like, yo, if I can hit him, I know I can hit everybody.

1:13:32Reggie Jackson, who you think? Nah, he's lying. Hey, my daddy, my daddy, I got my arm for my daddy. My daddy was throwing to Reggie Jackson. Can you hoop? Yeah. Can you hoop? Why you changing the topic, though? Yeah, because you went from baseball, because then we started at football. How long, how far you could throw? I can hoop against you. No way. Bro, I'm going to body you down. Debo, I will pull the chair off of you, and then if you try to shoot out, I'm going to pinball you. I'm going to pinball it. I am bodying you down, man. I'm doing you like I did my son. That's it. I ain't playing him no more, either, because he almost beat me, and I ain't about to lose to him.

1:14:16Okay, now we're going to do all. You know, we're going to do a punt, pass, a kick, and we're going to run the ones. I'm going to get you out of the way and all of that. Bro, I could kick. I used to be a fire kicker. I was straight toe. I straight toe. I straight toe. I had the straight toe that had the flat surface like that on it. I was banging that thing. See, you wore the straight toe cleats. Mm-hmm. I wore the straight toe. Just one. Just one for kickoff. They had the ballet toe boot. That's cheating. Who? You. What is you talking about? You want me to twist my ankle trying to kick it soccer style?

1:14:49No. I just went with the straight normal cleats and I went straight up on it with the regular cleats. No, I was doing it with the regular cleats. But I was only kicking it like into the five, like five yards deep into the goal line. But after I got that straight toe, I was kicking it out the stadium. Out the back end. I'm done with you. I'm done with you, man. I'm done with you. I'm done with you. Hey, listen, man, we want to thank y 'all for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Yes. Listen, make sure you guys like, subscribe, and download. We going to be back here tomorrow. I used to snap too, Joe.

1:15:24I actually snapped. I got here on Friday. I snapped, Joe. I believe that. I snapped in the professional game. What about you? No, I was a kick. I actually ran back a, I was a kick returner and a punt returner. I was a kick returner, a punt returner. You know what I'm saying? And Gunner, you know what I'm saying? Gunner Holdup. I wasn't no Gunner. I wasn't no Gunner. I wasn't no Gunner. I ain't going to lie to you about that. I wasn't no Gunner. No, you wasn't. You know what I'm saying? I was too valuable in the inside. That's why they put me in the middle, because they was like, yo, we can't have you on the right or the left.

1:15:55We need you to be able to get everywhere. So they put me in the middle. I was playing in the 6-1, sitting by myself. Why? Because I could get everywhere. Every gap was mine. Uh-huh. whatever you say, Debo. Hey, hey, they called me All Gap. They like, hey, All Gap. What you got? All the gaps. They say, who you got? I say, kill everybody. Oh, man. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hit the gap, fill the gap. Hey, listen, Joe. At least play a little bit of corner, too. But then, like I said, they was like, hey, we only got you on one side then. Like, we need to make sure everybody, we need to make sure everybody can, as much pain as you can put out.

1:16:52You got too slow to play corner. You know what I'm saying? You got too slow to play corner, D-Bo. Yo, what you talking about? You got way too slow to play corner. Oh, you talking about after I got into, yeah, that's what happened. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Yeah, you got too slow. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, I was doing, I had a couple years off. I got, you know, I had some things going on. But anyway, hey, look here, we're going over. We over, over. We going to be back here Friday. Yes, yes, yes. We going to watch this at 2 o 'clock and let y 'all know what's going on, what we see, what we hear from it, what triggers our thoughts, and what our thoughts are, and why.

1:17:32And we going to be right back here. Yes, sir. Catch y 'all on Friday, baby. and beyond.

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