Deebo & Joe - Steelers WILD WIN vs. Lions, DK Metcalf Hits Fan, Myles Garrett Closing On NFL History

22 Dec 2025 · 1 h 5 min · 27 chapters

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In short

The episode is a Steelers-focused game recap and debate show, centered on Pittsburgh’s wild win over the Detroit Lions, plus a brief detour into DK Metcalf’s fan altercation and Myles Garrett’s push toward NFL history.

Guests

“Deebo” and “Joe” are the two hosts. They speak as Steelers insiders/fans, using player nicknames and play-by-play analysis. They reference specific Steelers players (e.g., Deebo Samuel, DK Metcalf, Myles Garrett, Jalen Warren, Adam Thielen, A-Rod, Cam Hayward) and Lions players (e.g., Amon-Ra St. Brown, Gibbs, Hutchinson, Montgomery).

Key claims

Steelers controlled the game with physical defense and methodical offense, winning time of possession and rushing production (230 rushing yards). They criticize Detroit’s fourth-down aggressiveness and argue Pittsburgh’s late-game defense needs to “close out” better after allowing fourth-quarter scoring.

Notable examples

a 59-yard field goal; multiple sacks by Hutchinson; DK’s dropped pass; a big Gainwell receiving mismatch; Steelers’ long 17-play, 64-yard drive; and a late defensive stand after offensive penalties. They also discuss DK’s response to a fan and Myles Garrett’s historical momentum.

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Chapters

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Reactions to the Game

0:56 to 1:18

Hosts express their excitement over the recent Steelers game.

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Reactions to the Game

2:24 to 4:04

Hosts express their excitement over the recent Steelers game.

“Second down, they tried to do that little play that Miami did with that run back, except they kept it tight in the end.”

Game Analysis: Steelers vs Lions

4:05 to 8:06

In-depth discussion of the game's plays and strategies.

“They're not supposed to hit the ground, but we live.”

Defensive Plays Breakdown

8:07 to 14:00

Analysis of key defensive plays in the game and player performances.

“You see it coming because you attacking.”

Game Dynamics and Key Players

14:00 to 15:30

Discussion about player performances and pivotal moments in the game.

“Hey, at Sunshine on every dog's ass once in a while.”

Third Down Strategies and Challenges

15:30 to 17:30

Analyzing the challenges faced during third down plays and referee calls.

“I think that's just a little izy, you know.”

Highlight Plays and Catch Analysis

17:30 to 22:28

Discussion of standout plays, including a significant catch and its implications.

“I'm glad they called it twice this game.”

Late Game Tactics and Critical Moments

24:10 to 28:01

Analysis of the late-game strategies and the team's execution under pressure.

“I think Rodgers went on ahead and said, let him get in there.”

Game Recap: Steelers vs. Lions

28:01 to 29:08

The hosts discuss the wild game between the Steelers and Lions, highlighting key plays and scores.

“They said, listen, Joe, they said, we got to get this done faster, baby.”

Defensive Strategies and Challenges

29:09 to 31:46

An analysis of defensive strategies during the game and the challenges faced by the Steelers' defense.

“They let these boys go down there and score a touchdown in three minutes and 45 seconds.”
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Offensive Performance Insights

31:47 to 34:15

The hosts evaluate offensive plays, discussing successful strategies and player performances.

“10 plays in two minutes, 30 seconds, though.”

Controversial Calls and Situational Decisions

34:16 to 36:58

A discussion on controversial calls during the game, including pass interference and strategic choices.

“Before we get back out there, hey, first one, hey, Jalen, get up in there.”

Fourth Quarter Defense Breakdown

36:59 to 41:19

The hosts analyze the defense's performance in the fourth quarter and necessary improvements.

“Because he's going to be falling into that looking for the contact.”

Final Thoughts and Future Outlook

41:20 to 42:01

The hosts share their final thoughts on the game and discuss what the Steelers need to improve moving forward.

“We can't go in to the postseason and be doing the same thing because we go find ourselves highly likely getting bounced out in the first playoff game.”

Steelers Defensive Strategy Against Opponents

42:01 to 45:13

Learn how the Steelers' defense maintained pressure to dominate the game.

“Because they haven't been able to do nothing.”

DK Metcalf's Incident with a Fan

45:13 to 47:16

Discussion on DK Metcalf's altercation with a fan and the implications.

“DK, Thielen, Mount Washington, John New, Gainwell, and Warren.”

Reflections on Team Performance

47:16 to 48:33

Insights on various NFL teams' performances from the past Sunday.

“You got to start putting the doodle LeBron James, man.”

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48:33 to 49:56

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49:58 to 50:40

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Browns vs. Bills Game Breakdown

51:38 to 56:00

Detailed review of the Browns vs. Bills game and key moments.

“Now, this is when I'm like, the offense we was doing, We went down, did a drive, but the defense, we're just under.”

Game Analysis: Second and 18 Dilemma

56:00 to 58:20

The hosts discuss strategies around manageable plays in high-pressure situations.

“Like right here, Stor, it's second and 18.”

Defensive Struggles and Team Critique

58:21 to 1:00:44

A deep dive into the performance of the defense and issues with specific players.

“Then I see, and then 68, Cam Robinson, Alabama.”

Media Relations: Handling Tough Questions

1:00:45 to 1:01:58

Discussion on how players should approach media questions and maintain team unity.

“And then they'll come back with the same question.”

Reflections on Game Outcomes

1:01:59 to 1:03:49

The hosts reflect on game results and their emotional responses to team performances.

“They just want to get some type of question, some type of highlight to that, so that they can draw some attention to their paper, to their post, to their whatever it is that they got going on.”

Play or Fade: NFL Predictions

1:03:50 to 1:06:06

The hosts make predictions for upcoming NFL games and player performances.

“But my legs on this field while you hand me this rock.”

Fan Reactions and Game Highlights

1:08:37 to 1:10:03

Discussion of fan comments and highlights from recent games, including the Steelers' performance.

“She said, hey, Deebo, distillers whooped the snot.”

Referee Challenges and Team Dynamics

1:10:03 to 1:11:06

The hosts discuss the impact of referee decisions on their game performance and the upcoming match against the Browns.

“I feel like we got some, I feel like we got, we got calls and they got calls.”
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2:23that was unbelievable beautiful beautiful that was beautiful that was a sight to behold I know and I knew watching it the happiest man was you I knew I couldn't wait to get here to talk to you literally hey man let's go ahead and get let's go ahead and go through the game baby let's do it you know Detroit come on out there and first play look like we might have been playing a little cover three they get a seven yard out to Satan Brown I ain't tripping we right there Nephew sitting right there waiting on it. I ain't tripping. Second down, they tried to do that little play that Miami did with that run back, except they kept it tight in the end.

3:03And 9-5 said, hey, I'm a whoop a man. Whoop a man. I'm a whoop a man. I'm going to go get me a sack. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Hey, y 'all long. Hey, y 'all long. Hey. Hey, in third and 11. What 26 do, man? He did his job. Physical. He keeps his leverage. He keeps his leverage and stays outside. Queen's coming inside. You know what I'm saying? Force him to your help. He was able to make that tackle. Queen comes. Boom. Three and out. Off rip. That's what I'm talking about. That's the energy we needed. No question, man. They punt the ball back to my stills. You know what I'm saying? First play. We missed DK on that.

3:42It was a little behind him, but you know. Second down. What we need to do, Joe? We need to run the football. So we give the ball to Jalen Warren, my brother. What did he do? Jalen Warren hit that for 12. Fuck. Okay. Quick 12. Hey, next play. We hit Washington, but he dropped it. He almost cost us a pick. It could have been picked up. Tips are very scary. They're not supposed to hit the ground, but we live. Hey, we live, baby. second down, we do the run alternative. You know, we hit that quick one of DK, go ahead and let him get him a quick five. Put it in that third and manager. You know what I mean?

4:28Yep, yep, yep. Hey, my watcher said, hey, I'm going to make it up for you. Come across the middle, the middle. That's a big man. They thought we wasn't going. No, we using all the field now. Yep, yep. We hit the man for 18. First thing he did, he said, there ain't no way I'm this open. I got to look. Oh, ain't nobody there to step. Mm-hmm. Let me keep on going. Let me keep on going. Went and got him 18. Went and got him 18, man. Then we get to second and five. Ah. Hutchinson slows down progress. Slows down, puts a kink in our armor. I can't tell you, boy. We got a nine-yard sack, man. Third down ball, almost.

5:11Tipped again. Almost another one. We done got a good one, possibly two. We settle. We get the three. Bankroll, 59 yarder. 59. 59. That's huge. 3-0. Detroit get out there, man. Bro, he almost... What's that boy's name here? Bro, but the first play the man gives almost coughed the ball to us. He almost gave us the rock. He started dribbling it, but he ended up recovering it. Hey, man, just don't take away what 33 did right there, nah. What that man do? He smashed that tight end. Yes, he did. Forcing him to go inside. Putting him to his help. Yep. Gibbs gone ahead, get scared. He done knocked it off his own leg.

6:02He fumbled it. You know, he see them boys out there hitting. No, for sure. Two and four yards on it now. Leverage. Now, we get to third and 12. in this damn golf. He is Raymond for what? 13 on that? Yeah, he did. Hey. That was just, yeah, we got to kind of pursue on him. We have to make the play, brother. We do. We do. We got to make the play. We do. We do. We do. Corral that. We do. We have to corral that. That's 13 yards. He caught it at six. He got vertical. He did a great job of trying to get vertical, but we got to make that tackle. We got to make that short at 13 yards. Next play, my dude Harrison, he getting the backfield, but he let Gibbs give him the ah-ah.

6:46But you know what? We hunting. Yes. He don't get nothing but two yards on him. Mm-hmm. Could have been a loss. Could have been a loss. We got, we leaving a little meat on the ball, and I ain't tripping, man. I ain't tripping. Second down. This golf dude, right? He was a little bit of a pain here and there. Yeah. Flicker. Was that his name? Flicker? Ficker? Yeah. Something like that. Frisker. Frisker. This dude gone ahead and punched up 18. But you know what I like, though? No yak. No yak. No yak. For sure. For sure. No yak. Next play. We stopped that man for no game. Montgomery zero. Second down.

7:36Yeah. Yeah. He got 17 on us. I think we didn't feel that exactly how we needed to. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I think some guys might have went short. He was patient. He was real patient with that run. He was real patient. He was real patient. So that's why, like, people, that was a good run by him. That was a good, yeah, right. That was a good run. He outpatients us on there. He went on ahead. He outpatients us. He outpatients us on there. Yes. He went on ahead. Hey, next play, Nephew. Nephew was balling. nephew was balling the whole game he's a ball in this whole season my man probably only got four uh flags this whole year nephew's been hooping hooping yep break up on the slant that that that that the frisker dude yep again again 14 to the foe to the foe to the foe yard line first down hey y 'all wanna try and run this thing we gonna stuff Gibbs stuff stuff stuff stuff hey take it down Sawyer hey what that boy do tackle for loss he's coming down hill hey the lineman getting there too slow he supposed to contain that what I'm gonna sit here and wait on you for no when I know I can get in there and make this three yard loss that's called the player making a play yes Players make plays, baby.

9:00Don't look to get blocked. Don't look. Don't look to get blocked. You see it coming because you attacking. You playing at full speed. I love that. Third down. I ain't going to lie to you, man. Golf. St. Brown. Yeah. It is what it is. You know, everybody get paid. Everybody get paid. Everybody get a little something. But they do what the Lions do. And they go for it on fourth down. I am so happy that this coach ain't realized that it gets late in the season. Fourth down ain't the new third down no more. No. I thought you would have realized that after you lost a whole championship in the process that you could have won because you wanted to keep going for it on fourth down.

9:51You could have been in the Super Bowl. But I thank you and appreciate you for this because, nephew, what did you do? Plaster. They scrambling. He running around. He got his eyes on his man, on his man the whole time. No matter where Jerry's off, he's got him on him, scrambling. It's called plastering your receiver. When you're plastering, you're just on him, no matter where he's at. And he's trying to throw it. Pass break up. That's a term. Hey, man. He was a junior. That boy tighter than a pair of Fruit of the Looms. You understand? Literally. You understand? saying, they come out there. We get the ball on the three, Debo.

10:25What happened? So, I think they missed, we get tackled for loss, but I think they missed the face, I think they missed the face mask on that first play. I ain't tripping. It could have been possibly a face mask. We lose two. We lose two. Now, hey, Roger, say, hey, I'm going to tell you what you do. When you come in, don't even listen to what the play call is. Just look at me, and I'm going to look at you. Adam, Sam, Thielen. Then the quick out route to Austin. No question. Next play. Go ahead. Hey. The MVP. Very well say, listen here, y 'all put a fullback back here for a reason. I'm going to follow him and wait till he do what he got to do and set me off.

11:09Bow, 18. Mm-hmm. Roll. 18, allowing this fullback to sit there and go ahead. MVP. Set it up. Make the play. I ain't going to lie. We end up stalling out. But it could have been worse. We were on the three-yard line. We had to change the field position. Yeah. Yeah. First and foremost, change field position. Yes. Okay? Detroit, get out there. First nine. It's Williams, right? 21, boy. That was a great route, brother. Hey. He done. Huh. Soon. Up. Stared you up. You didn't know if he can run in or out. And then hit him with a bang to the out. Great route. Great ball. Great pass. I would have liked the DB to get a little more depth underneath.

11:52A little more depth. Make it a little harder to throw. That man hit you with his. That was a route. That was a route. I ain't going to lie. That was a route. He hit him with one. But listen, we can always improve. Yeah, no, for sure. Hey, the next play, that man, Heisman, y 'all just want to let him go and say that, oh, he ain't going to come down here and make this play? That's just disrespectful. Tripping. So he went down there full tilt. TFL. Tackled for a loss. Mm-hmm. 36. Okay. Boy. It had to be a miscommunication. You can't leave St. Brown that far. No, not that wide. We had too many people doing the twist.

12:32You know how you do the twist, you done lost him. Now you, oh, man, turn around here. Oh, man, he's over. Yeah, too many motions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a miscommunication. Without the offense getting us that extra yardage, that could have been an issue. A thousand percent. You know what I'm saying? That could have been an issue. It could have been in the red zone. Hey, no question. Next play again. Hey, he got back and forth, but he said, hey, I'm going to give you this that I'm going to go in and dip up under you and make a play. Them boys was coming after them dudes, bro. Players make plays.

13:06Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Players make plays, man. That's what they do. Second down. Hey. Queen. Queen on Gibbs. Good on good. Good on good. Good on good. Third down, nephew! All in. Look, I love your passion, nephew. You're strapping. Let him know about it. But please, just don't get a flag. Just don't get a flag. Yeah, that boy said, oh, no, no. He was talking, he was, ah, I said, please, you know, I'm hype. Hey. Celebrate with your teammates, baby. Get up out of there. Yeah, no question. Get up out of there now. We know it, baby. We know it. You did your thing. I was hoping this coach would go for it again on fourth down.

13:47Ain't no way he was going for that thing. I wouldn't. But he kicked the field goal. Mm-hmm. You know. Okay. 36 y 'all done. We get back out there, brother. And, uh. Ah, yeah. We don't. We don't do nothing. We don't do nothing. You know. Three and I. They made some plays. You know, we had to punt the ball. You know, everybody. Something. Hey. They show they get paid. Hey, at Sunshine on every dog's ass once in a while. You know? Yep. Yep. You know? We get back out there. What that boy's name is? Cam Ironhead Hayward. Okay. And why is that? Why is that? Because Heisman come around that corner so hard and fast, he got to step up into it.

14:30Yes, sir. Got to force him up. Boy, he had nowhere to go. Nope. But into Cam. But into Cam. That's a cliffhanger. Second down is incompletion, bro. and it's bang, bang on third down. No yet. Echols, come on. Catch and tackle. Yes, sir. Howdy, low. Hey, punt that ball on over here now. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Punt. I said punt that damn ball on over here. We get the ball. And I ain't lying. Yeah. Third down. We let, we let, we let. He let Hutchinson start going crazy. He got his second sack of the day. We let him beat two. we got to punt the rock back to him. Yes, sir. Man. Now, this is when everything starts getting a little crazy, too.

15:20A little bit. A little bit. A little crazy. You know, this is what I think. Is this right when I'm... Okay, we going to get... Lions, we got... Lions got the ball now. Tesla, 14, golf. Yep. That's my man Sawyer a little bit. I think that's just a little izy, you know. You're going to have a couple. You're going to have one. You know what I'm saying? It comes with the territory. I understand. Then Gibbs, that's Sawyer, a little eyes in the backfield, you know. 13. You know, it's all good, baby. You know, and then it's followed by, you know, Williams. He gets six, but ain't no yak, so. Tackles. Catch and tackle.

15:55Yes. Ain't no yak. Ain't no yak. And then Gibbs goes, I think he went six and six on the next two. Ended up getting number first. And then this dude, yeah, I ain't going to lie. He made a nice catch, bro. That was a good catch. It was bang, bang. I would have went for the receiver. He tried to go hit him, but I would have wanted him. You got to understand. Right. You can't today. No, you can't. Because if he old school. Old school? Oh, for sure. Every helmet hit that out of his. Everything's blind. Now you jump up and your helmet happens to touch him. Now it's a penalty. So then I took that part out of the game.

16:32So he tried to do his best he could. Hit him safely, legally. Right. He held on to it. So that was a great catch. He held on to it. Great catch. You handicapping the defense a little bit, but okay. It's 3-10. But, hey, still a stay cool, baby. Still a stay cool. Yes. I ain't going to lie. That second down to 10 when DK dropped that ball, I was like, hmm. Oh, because that's when it came from the sideline when everybody's looking like, what's going on? He's probably thinking about it. He dropped it. Nah, man. He ain't thinking about that. I know. I know. I'm talking about what they were saying. I don't care what they were saying.

17:08to say they don't know what they talking about. Third and 10. Crying move. 11. First time. Third and long. Third and long. Hey, next play, he said, let's just get good measure, get Friday move from another six. Okay. But the next play, we get an OPI. But I think, like, it was a makeup call. for what they missed on the sideline. I feel you. That's what I think. It was a two-hand push, though, Debo. You know, he got him off the joint. Come on, man. It's right there. Debo. I'm just saying, I'm a cornerback. How many times they called it? I mean, glad they called it. See how you started doing that?

17:56I'm glad they called it twice this game. We needed it at the end. No question. The extendo push? If you extendo push, we got to call it. If you give me any elbows, any of this, yes. I got to get, I got to get. Come on, man. That, come on. They ain't calling that. That was a makeup call. New York called them, said, hey, first times you get on DK, get 15. Your first times you have 15. You know what I'm saying? That's what they did. That's what they did, man. Respect. Respect. Yeah. We get to third and 11. Hey. Adam, say, hey. Welcome. Welcome to the family. Come on in here. Get 12. I ain't going to lie, man.

18:29These third and longs, you know, I'm starting to, I'm starting to kind of like, you know, I don't know. Like, when we get to third and long, I don't know. Because we get to another third and long, and, hey, who is it? It's Adam again. He didn't again. It's 13. I love the vet. He's finding holes in his own. He's not running that fast. He just looking, looking, looking. Him and A-Rod, they're vets. You know what I'm saying? Finds the holes. And he quick-snacked them on that one. You know, they had the 12 men on field. If we didn't make it, we still had another 10 and down. No question. Second down and 10.

19:05Boom. Boom. Yo, I ain't gonna lie to you. That was unbelievable. That catch is unbelievable. But as soon as I saw the linebacker go out with Gainwell, I said, he is throwing that rock straight to Gainwell. There is no way this linebacker is supposed to be able to do anything with him. Concentration for that catch, though, was on a million. On a million. On top of the P.I. that we didn't even need. And then. And gets up. Gets up and takes it to the crib. Takes it to the house. Bruh, Gainwell, legendary. That play, like, because he's been doing so much for us, bruh, out the backfield, catching the ball.

19:46But that's like, he's a receiver. And we feel like that is a mismatch every time. Yeah. A-Rod, we're going over there. Like, we could give him the passing tree. Beat him. He can't guard you. No question, bruh. Easy word. Easy word. You know, he tried to tackle him, so he made it a little more difficult on him. But listen, man, put that on the catch of the year. That's what it is. For sure. Detroit get back out there. They kneel some stuff. They do whatever. It's 10-10. 10-10. It don't matter. Still, let's get back out there, man. Hey, you know what we got to do. We got to do some things, man. We got to do some things.

20:24You got to follow. You got to do some things. And you know what we want to do? We want to let them know that even though you inside in this warm, cozy dome, we still go be physical. Yeah. Hound y 'all and throw y 'all around. So first two plays, we go ahead and give it to Warren. I think he get like five and three. And then on the third and short, we get 12. Dude made a nice tackle on that. I ain't going to lie. Yeah, he almost broke loose. Yes, he could have broke loose. Now we get to another third long. I told you, I think I'm starting to like these third longs now. You know I'm liking on third long.

20:59Hey, who ain't bringing in for third long? Adam Thielen. Bring him in. He's not. He's out there smoothly cruising, not running too fast, finding a hole in the zone. Him and A-Rod like this. You see me? You see me? Okay, bet. I love that. I got you. I got you. I got you. Next play. Warren following that fullback, letting him set that thing up. Twinkie Warren. One. Hey, listen, man. I told you, we the Pittsburgh Lion Tamer Steelers. That was, bro, consistent drives. Discover a spectacular island destination with crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze. Bahamar, located in Nassau, Bahamas, offers your choice of three luxury hotels.

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24:22Then after that, Mount Washington, my man fumbles the ball. He needed to get up there and snap that real fast and quick and get it out. What are we trying to change? We got offensive linemen subbing in, trying to clarify. A-Rod, what are we doing? You know what I'm saying? I'm with him. You're a thousand percent right. Snap the ball. Snap the rock, man. man. I ain't tripping, though. We got a defense. We got a defense. Hey, they come out there first down, man. We force an incompletion. Yes. Okay. Second down, we stuff Gibbs. Yes. Yes, we do. Hey. And a safety on the third down blitz. That boy said, hey, I'm going to come through.

25:14I know y 'all want me outside, but I see a hole in here. I see a hole. I'm not going to run into people. I'm going to find a way. You found a way. 12 out of 10, we up again.

25:31Hey, look here, man. I told y 'all we need to control the ball. By any way, stretch means imagination. It's how we ever needed to do it, man. I said we need to control the ball. We need a time of possession. And then we proceed to go out there and go 17 plays, 64 yards, use up almost 10 minutes. Okay. Okay.

25:59I said we need to win the time of possession, but I ain't say go out there and embarrass them boys, man. You talking about 64 yards on 17 plays. That ain't nothing but about three and a half a total little over that, man. That's the truth. That is methodical. Thriving the ball down the field. Now, add on top of that, we had an offside and an OPI that took away a touchdown. Yep. Then, bruh, that's demoralizing to the defense. Come on, bro. You got Rodgers, he scrambled on the third down. Like, come on, man. And then we picked up a fourth and two and a fourth and one in the process. Mm-hmm. With the tush push.

26:40We had the tush push fake. I don't like that. We done opened up the bag. Bag. Scotty Miller. We got dudes. We using dudes I didn't even know was on the team. We had Scotty Miller out there toe tapping. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. Listen here, man. Listen here, man. Miller going in and there making plays. Yeah, he was. We bring it in with bag, boss. Bankroll. Bankroll. 15 to 10, man. Listen, man. Detroit get out there, bro. And they thought they was going to do something. I thought we was going to finish them. No, they thought they was going to do something. They ain't do nothing, bro. They ain't do nothing yet.

27:22They ain't do nothing yet. They ain't do nothing yet. I think they picked up maybe one first down. Then second down, they got a false start. And then third down, we dropped a pick. That's what I was saying. You got lucky. You got lucky. I ain't going to lie. Clock was breaking on. Like, we almost had one on first, too. Yeah. But that was a real drop. That was a real drop. Yeah. That was a real drop. That was a real drop. Three and out. You still fuck them boys to punt. Still us.

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27:58Hey, Joe. Man. They said, listen, Joe, they said, we got to get this done faster, baby. like we can't all this little all these 17 play drives it's too long it's too long we tied we done put we tied with them cause we done made them tied they come on out there man they you know first play hot little five you know then Rodgers to MVS for six followed by DK for five and then Jalen Warren for 45 How much did you say that, Wolf? How many of y 'all? 45. 45. What'd that make the score in, Joe? Well, that's go 20. What'd that score in? 20? Hold up. Let me find out that's right. We're 22-10. 22-10. 22-10.

28:51Hey. Hey, listen, baby. I ain't even tripping right now, man. The defense. Get back out there. And this is where I need my defense to close out the game. Oh, I know, I know. I know. They let these boys go down there and score a touchdown in three minutes and 45 seconds. Mm-hmm. And on the fourth and two, we got a drag route. It's a man-to-man drag. I know something. He's running across. You got to try to get under. It's called a jet stream. You just got to get right behind him. Don't look back at the quarterback and try to run underneath. because if you miss it, it's going to be just like it was.

29:35It's going to be a touchdown. Try to get directly behind him and stay there. You got to make that tackle, bud, because if he gets five yards away, you might not be able to stop him for the first down, but you can stop and be able to fight for another play, play the grass, because that was just a good call. He's running full speed. You're already outside leverage. That's going to be a tough tackle to keep him short of the first. But for him to score, that's where we need to – we got to get him down on the ground. Yeah. We got to find a way to get the man on the ground, okay? But still, let's get back out there.

30:04And that's why it is a team game. It is a team game. Offense comes out there and answers the bell. First play, game well for team. I ain't going to lie to you. Next play, we get an illegal block. Okay. First and 20. But hey, wing tripping. Perfect back shoulder. Beautiful. for 20. Twanky. He threw it to the stick. Boom. Back shoulder. He threw the ball once he was like six yards down the field. That's how you throw a perfect back shoulder. Hey, man. Look here, man. And then the next play, I felt like I could have went out there and got me something, man. Like, I could have. I was with you like, give me the rock one time, man.

30:52Let me go ahead and get four or five. You know what that is, Debo. That's terrible, terrible secondary defense in the crack replace where you got your corner and your safety just running on down with DK and there's nobody there. Like, it's just an empty hole. Like, they aren't aware. The awareness was on zero. DK ran in there with that corner. The safety was his block. Listen, man, he just hit him for 20 on the previous play. You know they got to give him some respect. Man, look, in the DB reading room, they looking at crack replace like, this is terrible. You know what I'm saying? You got to have a cool quarterback.

31:26Oh, yeah. But it's good for us. It was bad for him. All right, y 'all. Touchdown. What the score is, Joe? The score now, we looking at 29 to 17.

31:39Yes, sir. 29 to 17. And defense go out there. Again. Again. Again. Again. It's 10 plays, bro. Again, again, again. 68 yards. 10 plays in two minutes, 30 seconds, though. Well, we dropping picks, though, too. Like, we got to catch. You know what I'm saying? We got an illegal shift from them on first. and give us a first and 15. So second down, it's a nice play by Clark, okay? We get to third and 10 and give up 21. 21. Williams. We turn back around and give him 16. On another, same dig. They running digs on us, bro. First and 10 at the 20, dude. Gibbs takes off for 16, okay? And then... Nice play by Ramsey.

32:31Yes. Almost gets a pick. Mm-hmm. And then the next play, the game lineman totally drops the pick, bro. Oh, he fell right into it perfectly. We missed two opportunities to get off of the field, get the ball back to our offense with no points. Third down, they score. Yep. They run that damn little same little switch rub route joint that they been running. That was the same damn play again. He's just out the backfield. Dude, 29 to 24. Dude, we get to rock back. That's when I started getting a little pissed. Bruh, I'm already like, I'm like, we done missed a pick. We done missed two picks. I'm like, you know me, I'm panicking, man.

33:18Luck ain't on our side no more. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, for sure. First place, Mificus out there, I think he went 20. Yes. And then Mount Washington, he get 13 kills. He gets real disrespectful.

33:35Man, Smith, I think, goes for eight plus another five for the holding by the defense. They end up being able to stand up. I think it was, shit, 10, 13, 17 people in the box they had for the run. You know what I'm saying? I think they pulled some people out of the stands, too. I don't know. They was locked in. They end up holding us to the field goal, but we got boss. We got bankroll though, right? Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. I'm like, oh, I'm with the flip. Oh, Lord. Bankroll boss, Mr. Jones. It's about to go bad. Anybody but boss. Anybody. Anybody but boss. Lord, please. I'm scratching. I ain't going to lie to you right here.

34:19Oh, my goodness. Boy, I'm scared. I'm sweating. All right. So now, defense. Before we get back out there, hey, first one, hey, Jalen, get up in there. Three y 'all. Yes. Yes. Yes. Hold on to the shirt. Hold on. Then we get him. We get him to a third and 13. We allow these boys to get 12, though. Yes. And then, a P.I. The bang, bang on our man digger. Dang. I feel like he's right there. He's right there. Just don't hook the arm. I think if you don't even hook the arm, if you jump. If he just don't even go to hook the arm and he can get it. He just go like this. For sure. Yeah. But you know what that is, Debo?

35:00Because he was trying to make sure. He only did the arm because if he does miss it, he wants to be able to secure the tackle. Right. You got to do that. You got to do that. Yeah, you got to do it. But spinning him is what's going to make you get the flag. So it's tough. Yeah. Yeah. First down, though, we get a sack, but it's a trip. Yeah. He knew it immediately as soon as he did it. He threw that heel out, bro. I got to like, oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, man, whatever you got to do, baby. Bite, scratch, claw. Hey, good question. He tried to get there. We almost sacked him on the next play. And then St.

35:36Brown ends up going, I think it was like 24. Bruh. Second down. 10. What the dude? Tesla? Tesla? Yes. Dude, I don't get. he get down to the one bro I ain't gonna lie to you alright and I'm like oh lord come on like like how wide guys first down dude on the one we're like come on come on man but Detroit scores a touchdown and we get uh oh P.I. P.I. hey man you listen man you cannot do that you can't you can't two yards man you don't get no more than a yard man you don't get no more yard and this is what i'm trying to tell you to do people are not understanding this is when when they say he's set up to pick them they was like no he's supposed to go in there and cause traffic that's it saying pick where what do you mean cause traffic you either got a route to run or you don't you're trying to go in and cause traffic you mean running to the other man which is a pick and then you go in and get into the route that's a way of disguising saying right pick like oh no go in there and cause traffic.

36:50What is cause traffic? You show me that on a play sheet. You know what I'm saying? No question. You're trying to get that rubber bump. Yes. You're touching him. A thousand percent. The thing is, they need to start getting if they're going to do this, if the receivers are going to do this, they need to start trying to get out of the way, but make it look as if you're going to blast and then jump out the way at the last minute. Do something. Because he's going to be falling into that looking for the contact. Hey, listen, y 'all worry about that some other time. I like how y 'all did that. That was a pass interference.

37:22He was two yards down the field, and he picked. No question. And then on first and 11, they get a false start. Bring them back to first and 16. Thank you. Bang, bang. Bang, bang. Seven by Gibbs. Hey, bang, bang. Short of the tackle. Yep. And that third down, listen. Tesla. That ball. Clark fighting for his life. Fighting for his life out there. Trying to break his hands apart. Anything, bro. I think he would have bit him if he could. No question. He don't hold on to the rock. Yes. His fourth down. Everything on the line. Now that, that was 100 % OPI. Thank you. I don't even need to get to it. Double hands.

38:12Double hands. Double hands. Like a bench press. And then come to find out, he tried to throw the ball back. They scored a touchdown, but it don't matter. The game can end on an offensive penalty. I did not know that. That's something new to me. But I'm so happy it happened. Yep, yep. I'm so happy I got to find that out. Yeah. Because it's 29-24, and we going to the dough with W. We're out of here. We're out of here. We got to put all these lines back in their cages. We just got through training them. You know, we get through that. And, hey, the Steelers offense, they did their job. Hey, we controlled the ball.

38:56D-ball. Control. Time of possession, bro. Third one. It's crazy, dog. Come on. Hey, we ran the ball, and we kept Rodgers cleaner than I ever thought we would. I ain't going to lie. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. When they needed to answer most situationally, too. Dude, we was 50 % on third down, 100 % on fourth down. Two huge runs by my man, Jalen Wong. That boy was 14 for 143, two tugs. Gainwell put him in nine for 50. Hell, and even Smith got him two for 28. 230 yards rushing, brother. Average 8.5 a rush. The process was good, good, good, and effective. effective 27 for 266 with a touchdown. That man hit 10 different receivers.

39:47Okay? We had the one little turnover. That's okay. That's okay. We watch him just tuck the ball. You got to hold on to it. Just hold on to it. I love you, African. Defense. Oh, my God. Go ahead, Debo. Talk to him. Tell him to mind. Oh, my God. That's one thing, Debo. Tell him when they do bad. Hey, listen. How they held these boys to 15 yards the whole game. One point free a rush. Not even a yard and a half now. Not even a yard and a half. They made them give up running the ball. And that's what you do. Took a man's will. That's the defense. I told the boys to drop they nothing. You know what they did?

40:24They said to hell with dropping them. We going to let them drag on the turf. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Look here. Them boys probably got rug burned by now. Bro, bro. Dragons, seven for two yards. Montgomery, four for 15. I know that 16 yards, Goff had a negative. Mm-hmm. Okay? But again, again, defense, the fourth quarter, we got to close it out. The first three quarters, the Lions only had 164 yards passing and 18 yards rushing, brother. Mm-hmm. It don't matter. The fourth quarter, we gave up 18 for 202 touchdowns. We have to figure out how to close games out. We can't go in to the postseason and be doing the same thing because we go find ourselves highly likely getting bounced out in the first playoff game.

41:37we cannot do this yes not what is going to be sustainable as a defense point blank period is giving up huge numbers points in the fourth quarter that allows a team to get back in it yep Debo you this game you speaking facts you speaking great facts we balled out but it's like these lows that we always have in quarters where they're just like continuous drives don't take Take your foot off the gas. Continue to do what we've been doing. Like all that Bimba Don't Break stuff. Like, no, no, no. Stay where we're at. Stay on their ass. Because they haven't been able to do nothing. Don't let them start getting the confidence or building up.

42:18No, we're going to shut them out the entire game. So I'm with you a thousand percent on that because do it. You've been doing it the whole game. Don't switch it up now. Don't start just backing up, playing easy. No, no, no. Keep plying pressure on them because they ain't been able to do nothing with this pressure. So I'm with you a thousand percent on that. I love the way that they went out there. and they dominated as far as the play game. There was no chance for them to get nothing going. You know what I'm saying? The pass and all that at the end, Joey Porter Jr., Echols, my boy Duggar, communication, there's not a lot of people running scot-free.

42:48And that's all that I wanted to see. You know what I'm saying? Sawyer, a couple little wheel routes here and there. But, man, trust me, you did way more good than bad. Oh, no question. And there's only little things that we can show on tape. No, just make sure you take this deep. You know what I'm saying? Little stuff like that. Then, offense. I knew I wasn't tripping. When I keep saying this, and I heard a lot of people saying it today too, winning first down. The last three games too, we won six and a, first down we get six and a half yards. Miami, 6.9 yards. Detroit, six and a half yards every first down.

43:24If we start ahead of the sticks, you can't mess with A-Rod because now it's second and four. We're going to be able to run the ball. He's going to get us in a good situation. He could dump it to Gainwell. He can hand it to Warren. He can get it to Smith. He can get it to Washington. He can go one-on-one with DK outside. So us not having to always be in those long-term situations. But now I'm feeling a little more confident because we got Adam Thielen that's like in third and longs. He's finding zones. He's finding little holes. He's finding little spots. So just having a veteran wide receiver like him, he might not be the baddest or best, but that's what we need here.

43:57We need a vet with a vet that knows what he's feeling. MVS, another vet. We got DK now still. Like, when it's time, the back shoulder phase. Like, we got that. Staying ahead of the sticks on offense. Defense, beastly controlling, not letting, like, now I'm seeing it's a thing. We let the Colts, don't let the Colts run off there. Jonathan Taylor. This, Mount Washington, I mean, Montgomery and Gibbs, they weren't able to hold it on us. But at the same time, we got to make Buffalo. Like, Cook, I've seen us get ran on the same play. But I know that we can stop that. You putting guys in positions on that that ain't used to doing their job too now.

44:35For sure, for sure. You got guys in positions that's doing the job. The defense is now more sound than me. It's looking like a defense that I could recognize. It's looking more like the defense I was used to seeing. Devo. You know what I'm saying? You're saying we are saying the same things because this joint right here, this looks good. Offense, first down, winning on first. And then bankroll bars, you know, we had a field goal miss that we don't normally have, a little short joint. Special teams, my man Gunnar, staying out of bounds. Just little simple stuff that we got that we can fix on tape.

45:04Just very simple. So I'm liking what I'm seeing from the Steelers that we can consistently stop the run and win on first down. Because if we win on first down, we have so many different skilled players when you think about it. DK, Thielen, Mount Washington, John New, Gainwell, and Warren. All them dudes, bro. Speaking of DK, brother. we uh DK had a little little thing that went down with a fan oh man got the video look at that he did

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45:40Joe what you think happened there man I talked to DK but what you think happened there he did well it had to say something kids family you got you got You got to say something extraordinary to get that reaction. I believe the fans said he called him by his government name and he didn't like it. That's not what I'm told. I talked to DK personally and DK said he actually called his mom a cunt. And as he asked him what he was saying or what did he say, he then called him a nigger. So even though those words are said, you can't respond that way. But if that was me in my football playing days back then, that would have been mild manner because I would have yanked his ass over that wall and beat the dog shit out of him and showed him what a nigga could do.

46:35But, hey, DK, you can't do that. As I talked to DK, I said, hey, man, you can't do that. You can't do that without your bag. You got to be more mature than that. Me, now, I can look past words and not tell you sticks and stones. Sticks and stones. Obviously, he can't do it. I understand why he did it, but it still can't happen. Like he said, it's not going to happen again. He let him trick him out of his bag. But that's what happens when you're a little younger. You haven't matured up enough to be able to let the words fly and give it no mind. Yeah. You got to start putting the doodle LeBron James, man.

47:18I mean, at the end of the day, fans, they got to understand, too. Sometimes they speak ridiculously. They say crazy things, disrespectful. So, I mean, you could be able to, end of the day, like the older us now being able to, man, get him out of here. Pull a LeBron joint. Right. They saying crazy things. You get him up out of here. You got to protect the players. They can't be saying certain things to dudes, but you can't also physically. Don't. Get him out of there. That's going to hurt him more. Get him out of the stadium. You know what I'm saying? Right. Be on that. Right. Make that approach.

47:45Like, yo, get him out of here. Man, get him out of here, man. You heard what he said. You know what I'm saying? No question. Get the proper authorities. No question. Hey, man, I ain't going to lie. Sunday was great. It was good. Hell, the Browns lost. The Ravens lost. That just felt good. Anytime the Browns lose, it feels good. Oh, shit, Joe. What happened when the Browns came, Joe? Did you see? I can't. I ain't going to say that I saw, but I'm going to say that you know how the universe talked to me. Yeah, you talked to me. all right two two interceptions by the door two interceptions that was hard interceptions over come no so let's start it off start the game brown started off the game with eight play drive 69 yards finish it off with a 13 yard play action pass touchdown okay okay seven zero off rip right bills get the ball back all right josh allen used his legs a little bit but it's not about Josh Allen.

48:46The defense sold. We sold. James Cook went three carries for 67 yards in the tutty. You said he almost got 100 in the first drive? Oh, I was talking. Go ahead, Joe. What did you say? Basically. Browns get the ball back, and then we driving it. We're driving it all the way down. Discover a spectacular island destination with crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze. Baja Mar, located in Nassau, Bahamas, offers your choice of three luxury hotels, the richly refined Rosewood, the playfully hip SLS, and the stylishly modern Grand Hyatt. With over 45 restaurants, bars, and lounges, Baja Mar serves up delicious dining from world-renowned chefs like Daniel Balloud and Marcus Samuelson, nightlife venues like the new Jean-Baptiste Jazz Club, and the Caribbean's most luxurious casino.

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51:31Get yours now at topgolf.com slash fun pass. Summer hits different at Topgolf. And Shador throws it to Juckins. A little hot, a little behind. A little hot, a little behind. I was told to hit his back shoulder. Hit his back shoulder. Right here, like right here. Hit him in the back shoulder. Yeah, yeah. Ricochet off his shoulder. Interception. Boyer pick. Okay, after the pick. Now, this is when I'm like, the offense we was doing, We went down, did a drive, but the defense, we're just under. We're starting now. We say our defenses, though. All Browns' defense, we're starting to underperform. They went nine plays, 61 yards.

52:1261 yards. They let them go 61 yards for a touchdown. Nine plays, yeah, for a touchdown. That was tough. They tried to help them, I heard, by missing the extra point, though. Dunked it. Yes. Perfect. So it's 13-7. What did the Browns do when they get back out there, man? We actually do get a drive together. We drive it all the way down, but my man Shador ends up hurting his finger. So he comes out, and we get down to third and go. We get down to the four-yard line. First down, can't get it. Second down, can't get it. Third down. You said Gabriel got sacked on third down? He got, man, look. It was a loss of one.

52:49He was trying to scramble. He was trying to scramble. Came through, got sacked. They got a field goal. As you will, you will fail. Y 'all get any points off that? Yeah, we got three. So 13-10. Okay, 13-10. That ain't bad. That ain't bad. That sounds good to me. Hey, what the defense do? I know they killed out there, and they stood up, didn't they, Joe? Joe? No. Huh? No. Oh, they didn't stand up. We went down there first. They started running the ball on us crazy, and then they ran the play action. Looked like it was crack replaced. Bad eyes by the DB. They get an over route. They say they went seven plays in three minutes and scored a touchdown.

53:29Yeah, they did. It made it 20 to 10. 20 to 10. 20 to 10. Chedot comes back out, gets the ball, and then this is kind of where it got hurt. My man Junkins gets hurt. Yeah, I saw that. I mean, I heard. I heard he got hurt. He goes out. So then we punt the ball on that drive. We don't do too much of nothing. Bills get the ball back. They punt, okay? Browns get the ball back. is 20. This is what the hell I'm talking about right now. I heard y 'all had a short field. Which one? On the one where you actually, you know, they punted off to you and then they ended up getting a penalty that gave y 'all some more yards.

54:06So your field was kind of short. And I'm thinking, I think it was like right before halftime, you guys could have scored a field goal. Yeah, that's what I'm about to tell you about right there, right before halftime. We get the ball and the holder. the holder mishandled the hold you sure it wasn't a bad snap I mean no I'm just trying to help you don't kill the message no no just fluky so we weren't even able to we weren't even able to get the field goal off to get points that's such a shame I heard Buffalo got the ball in the first second half Sorry. What did they do with it? What do you think they did, D-Bo?

54:56I don't know. What, the defense? I guess your defense finally stood up one time. I think the defense finally stood up one time. I'm just so... Hey, hey, hey, listen, man. We're going to get down to the nitty-gritty? Let's get down to the nitty-gritty, Joe. All right, long story short, we get the turnover on downs. When they drop the dag on touchdown, right? So we get the ball 12-yard line. I was wondering if you was going to say that because I'm hearing over here they should have scored a touchdown, but they dropped it. They should have scored a touchdown, but he was wide open and they dropped it.

55:32Thank the Lord. So we get the ball back on the 12-yard line. This is our chance for us to really get back. I think on first down, Shador creates time, hits Corley with a great pass, like 11-yard dot. Oh, yeah, I ain't going to lie. That was a crazy nice pass. That was a crazy dot. I mean, I heard it was. I didn't watch the game. Sorry. On the first and 10, we have an unblocked dude coming at him. So he gets sacked on the first and 10, which makes it second and 18. On the second and 18, this is the one he's like an intentional ground in backing up. Like right here, Stor, it's second and 18. We can't go to third and 33.

56:05We need to have a manageable second down. So I understand you want to figure something out, but there's a check down there. Third and 18 is manageable? There's at least, no, it's second. It's better than third and 33. I've never seen third and 33. See, look how you're willing to settle for it. 3rd and 18. No, not 3rd and 18. Look at you, Joe. It's 2nd and 13. It's the Browns in you. Listen, it's 2nd and 18. It's 2nd and 18. If you drop it, dump it down, we could at least get 5 or 6 to at least have it like 3rd and 11 versus 3rd and 33. That's just what I'm saying. Intentional Browning, Joe. What happened?

56:40What do you mean what happened? It was the pressure on him and he kept backing up. I understand that, but did you guys go for it on 4th and 32? or did you punt? No, we punted. You punted, okay. Yeah, we punted it. I know the defense stood up. No, they got a first down. Josh Allen QB sneaked it with a third and one, and then they kneeled it out. Damn, Joe. All right. Damn, Joe. Sound like the defense sold again. The defense? Sound like they sold on you, boys. What? You're right. 164 rushing, almost six a tote, five, seven a tote. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. They said Allen only, what? He only had 12 completions, 130 yards.

57:23You got to be kidding me. Yep. I say it was the run defense that let us down. Cook was running all through the defense. We couldn't stop him at all. Y 'all can't stop the run. I mean, yeah, D-Ball. Y 'all can't stop the run no more. It's really changed, though. We were stopping him running first. But now, the more and more games that I see, the more and more we're not stopping it. And your special teams didn't even sell out on you this time. Special teams only sold out on the day going we couldn't get the field goal attempt up before halftime. Man. That was the only one I think they sold. And then I think we need to have a discussion with these two linemen that we have on our team that are playing very bad.

58:08KT Leveston drafted in seventh round 2024. 72. I'm not supposed to know your name. You had like four, you had four off-sides of the leg, like false starts, all of that. Then I see, and then 68, Cam Robinson, Alabama. Are you getting a little bit older? I mean, that's real ruthless. I ain't supposed to know your name. That's crazy, Joe. That's crazy. Because you're doing good. I understand what you're saying, Joe. I didn't hear Joe Thomas' name out there a lot because nothing was happening. Pouncey, you don't hear people calling Pouncey's name. You just know because he's doing his job. when you're on the line, I'm not posting anything.

58:47I know you're... I just needed you to clarify that so people didn't give you no... Oh, so people didn't give me slack. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Thank you, Debo. Thank you for clarifying that. No problem, baby. No problem, baby. Look here, man. Why y 'all Cleveland reporters keep trying to get your door to fire off, man? Listen to this, man. I like to see you. Go for it on Washington. I know you can't be asking me that question, man. Come on, man. we can't we can't say that that's like the thing like if we want to change if we want to change the narrative change the franchise if we want to like help we got to speak life you can't those type of things like separate us like a lot a lot of the players like get these type of questions and then we we want to be working with y 'all we want to be proactive but like when you ask questions or when questions are asked to us players and it's like you pinning stuff against to each other, it's like, come on now.

59:43It's like a locker room. We're not going to be able to talk to them for real. We're not going to be able to give them what they need. Because that separates the team. That don't help anything. It don't help anything in any situation. No matter how you answer. He hit me. He's hit me in the heart with that one. Hey, Joe. Here it is. I think what a lot of players don't realize and understand is you don't have to answer the question. You just have to be available for it. So if it's a question that you don't want to answer, you feel is unanswerable with the correct answer because they're just looking for clout, you can say, next question.

1:00:32That's it. It's very easy, dude. You don't have to answer the questions they ask you. They can ask you, hey, man, how was this or that? And I tell them, you know what? I ate breakfast. I had eggs and bacon for breakfast. And then they'll come back with the same question. And then I don't think I'm going to have steak for dinner. You don't have to answer the question. You just have to be available for them. That's it. So if they want to keep asking y 'all stupid questions, give them Give him a few answers. I know. I hear what you're saying, Debo, a thousand percent, man. Being just trained for the media.

1:01:13They have a job to do. They know you're mathematically eliminated because I've been in that. Like you said, I've been in those locker rooms when they're asking these dumb questions, trying to create stuff, trying to act like coach called this play. Why would you ask me that? You know what I'm saying? Like, obviously, I'm going to go with my coach. So it gets kind of frustrating. You know what I'm saying? And I see what he's saying. But I know what you're saying. At the end of the day, you do have to – you don't have to say anything. They're trying to stir you up. You could just literally marshal on a shit.

1:01:40You have to be there for availability. But he starts turning into, like, Bill Belichick. When they were asking something, next question. You know what I'm saying? Like, answer something completely different. So how do you feel about coaching? I'm like, man, we're fighting for – you know what I'm saying? We're trying to do what we got to do. You know what I'm saying? You could literally just keep saying, we're just trying to do what we got to do, getting better every day. Hey, Joe, I think y 'all got a bunch of reporters there that don't give a damn about Browns football there. They just want to get some type of question, some type of highlight to that, so that they can draw some attention to their paper, to their post, to their whatever it is that they got going on.

1:02:11They don't really care about their teams being successful. I think if y 'all got successful, y 'all might lose half the reporters that was over there. Oh, no. It's just, yeah, man. I mean, the story, like they know right now, it's headlines. You got Johnny, I mean, you got Shador out there, and basically the same, they just trying to, Anything that he says is going to be, it's going to get people talking. So why not? You're eliminated now. They're trying to get him to start something. And I appreciate his answer. No question, bro. I love the answer. Hey, look here. I want to give a shout out to my guys over there in Baltimore.

1:02:48We appreciate y 'all for doing what y 'all did, man. Listen, I'm going to tell you the truth, Joe. I'm not even going to lie, bro. So when Derrick Henry hit them for the four, then the 22, and then finished it off with the four for the touchdown, and it was 24 to 13, I ain't going to lie, bro. I turned my TV off. I went to bed, bro. I said, I'm not about to sit up here and ruin my whole night waiting up late for the Patriots not to do what I need them to do and beat the Browns. I mean, and beat the Ravens. Cleveland already lost. Like, they done did me a favor. Like, that just makes me feel good.

1:03:31You just didn't want to see the Ravens win. And how I beat these guys to lose, because I don't want them to be too close behind. Well, you should have stayed up. And then I wake up. You've been a happy man. Bruh, I wake up. And they done scored 15 points in the last 12 minutes of the game. I had to go back and watch the whole fourth quarter, man. And to see that Derrick Henry didn't even touch the field again. After that play, you saw. He didn't touch the rock no more. The hell with a rotation. I'm Derrick Henry. It's time to close this out. We ain't rotating a damn thing. But my legs on this field while you hand me this rock.

1:04:08Hey, I appreciate you. Ravens, hey. They wild out. I knew I liked you. I knew I liked you for a reason, baby. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You can't. The Ratbirds. The Ratbirds. They came through. You can't make it up. Hey, you can't. You cannot make this up. I love them dudes. You got my man. You got my man. Andrews. Did you see him throw the little, the crazy spin around? Then Zay Flowers got his joint punched out. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Hey, listen, listen, man. Listen. That ain't. Listen here, man. I appreciate y 'all. Hey, I'm going to give a holla out to that dude, Trevor Lawrence, too, man. Hey. That man's bold.

1:04:53The last couple weeks, he been doing things, brother. He been doing things. He just went and did it on Denver's defense, bro. 23 for 279, three touchdowns and one rushing. That's after doing the Jets for only 20 completions, 330, five tutties and one rushing. No interceptions either game. And they missing Hunter, the best player on the team, bro. Hey Jags looking good bro Good job baby And my man Your boy out there For Denver My man Bo Nick Still out there Throwing concussion balls With Down Two touchdowns With 30 seconds left Hey man Put that man out For a whole season He trying to man What you doing Put my man in the tent With 15 seconds left Down two touchdowns What you doing You're tripping You said tripping Like Joe Yes Now it's time for Play or Fade, presented by PrizePix.

1:06:07All right, Joe, we know how it work. I made my lineup of picks for Monday Night Football. You either play or you fade, baby. Okay? Tell me why. Hey, Jonathan, tell you, I got in for more than 17 and a half yard rush. I got in for more on that, okay? Christian McCaffrey. I got in for more than 39-5. Obviously. Hey, Brock Purdy. That boy going to slain that ball. He going to keep slainting that ball, man. He ain't tripping. He ain't tripping. I got in for more, okay? And listen, old man Rivers. Old man Rivers done got into his second game now. He feeling good. Okay. I got to see him do more than 157.

1:06:53So I have to go more on that. There's no way I cannot. Like, you looking at, who was it, Tennessee or whoever? What's the name? Play. Like, Jonathan, he going to break one. Yes. Like, where you at? Where you at, baby? I ain't going to lie to you. I'm going to fade you on who? The Joe Biden looking man at the bottom. Old Man Rivers? Old Man Rivers. Old Man Rivers, man. I don't know why they put that man in there. That ain't him, but okay. That ain't him. They disrespect it. That's real disrespectful. That's real bad. And for that reason, and not only that, I think He might make it like 120. His just arm strength looks a little suspect to me.

1:07:49But, hey, he got another week under his belt. Man, that could be even worse. He might be still sore.

1:07:58Old man Rivers might be real old. Okay. I could see that. All right. All right. I ain't going to be upset, but you going to be upset when he actually do get more than that. No, no, no. I'm going to be up. If he's getting more than that, then I believe in old man. Hey, man, these boys go play for him now. They love that old man over there, man. He only been there two weeks. Yeah, no, for sure. Hey, you go fade your boy. I ain't tripping, though. But, hey, y 'all make sure y 'all download the app today and use the code DBOJO to get$50 in lineups after you play your first$5 lineup. Tell everybody your mama here, your papa here, everybody here.

1:08:38Let everybody know. Deebo and Joe. We got some super chat. We got supers? We got supers? A lot of supers. We got Autumn McCaddy. Three, five, nine, five. She donated five. She said, hey, Deebo, distillers whooped the snot. It's a different word. whip the snot out of the lines on both sides of the ball. It starts on both lines of scrimmage. I'm proud of the Steelers. They whip the dog shit out them boys. We still need to hold up in the fourth. In the fourth? As a defense, we got to put them to sleep. We got to put our hands and feet on their neck. Yep. Choke them out. Don't give them no life. I love the way that we play, man, for sure.

1:09:32We belt the ass offensive line. They whipped that the whole time. We was able to get those big runs, holes, defense aligned. I mean, just the whole defense, though, like Debo said, fourth quarter. Just punish them the whole time. Just keep it just like we had it. Mm-hmm. For sure. We got another one. What is that? Marco Privet, 9-8, 9-8-0-9. He said, yo, listening to the game, Tony Romo is a pure hater. and the refs and the refs man odds were against us we really dominated the game and would be nice and would nicely and would be nicely up two scores yeah we would but listen man we ain't worried about the refs the refs shouldn't have too much play into our game um if we play up to our potential.

1:10:28Game in, game out. But I do appreciate them. I do appreciate them. What's that? No question about it. I feel like we got some, I feel like we got, we got calls and they got calls. Like, I think, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes you can see every play in the NFL you could throw a damn flag. You know what I'm saying? You know who we got next up? Who? We got the Browns. Hey, Peter go get called on us because we kicking the shit out of Dawn. Woo! Woo! Woo! Hey, man. Chill out, Debo. Chill out. And, you know, just, yeah, chill out, man. Listen here, baby. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe.

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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers stunning Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions, DK Metcalf hitting a fan in a sideline altercation, Myles Garrett inching closer toward the single season sack record as the Cleveland Browns fell to the Buffalo Bills, and much more action from Week 16 of the 2025 NFL season!

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