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21:14James Harrison:Trying to just bump people. I don't know what that is. Wrap them up. You gotta wrap up. And then on the second down, I think Higgins got about 15 on that one. and then the next one my guy came through though my guy came through there we go we in the spice you know what I don't even know what happened on that next third down I guess I must have fell asleep you tell me Joe what happened on that next play after TJ tipped that ball I don't know what happened you tell me is it a pick six is it a pick six with Digger sitting right in the spot that he needed to be and ran that thing all the way back.

22:01Hey, hey, it was a return for a touchdown.

22:06James Harrison:That was beautiful. Duggar said, hey, I made a I missed that one. I missed that one. But I ain't gonna miss this one. Great. Great play. Great play. You thought it was sweet. You thought it was sweet over here. We dropping people into the hole right there to make sure. And you threw it straight to him. Leverage. Everybody outside. Funnel him inside. Funnel him inside. You threw it straight to him, Joe. Hit him in the chest. Yeah. Yeah. Pick six. Everybody get lucky once in a while. That last game you played, Joe, you got lucky. You hear me? You got lucky. Oh, man. That defense stood up, brother.

22:47James Harrison:That defense was standing up. Yeah. They was giving up some runs, like you said, but, you know, Bimba don't break. We sculled. 9-20. Hey, Joe, it's 9-20. Now, we sculled. Okay. First play out the gate. Bengals get the ball back. They get paid, too. We gave up 22. We gave up 22. And then we stopped them boys on the third and one. And Ramsey gets a PI, gets a personal file, and he gets tossed out the game. Now, listen, I don't know what happened at that time, but I'm going to tell you what I'm saying to my son. And I'm going to apologize to you, Ramsey. Off rip right now. We'll get to the whole subject later after we get done with this.

23:39But I'm sitting in there, bro, and I'm like, oh, my God. I can't believe this man just hit this man for no reason. and my son is like well you know he did that and he didn't no no listen it's nothing he could have said to him that would have made him nothing verbally I'm like it's nothing dude I'm like he is selfish he is putting himself ahead of the team I'm giving all that right to my son I gotta get some good advice I gotta let him know yeah yeah no for sure but at the same time I am pissed because that gave him a first down right right but like I said I don't know none of the other stuff. So we're going to move forward from here.

24:19They're able to stay ahead of the chains for longer.

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25:31Want the full story? Take a listen. Hedy, she starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him? I mean, I watch The Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator. Right. She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well. Give us examples. I know. They do get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings. And she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like what the two would look like as a plane.

26:11And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie Jean King. Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Goodbye. Hey, it's Erin Andrews from Calm Down with Erin and Carissa. I don't know about your house, but at my house, everybody's online. mine. They're streaming, gaming, shopping, Zoom calls, you name it. That's why having fast, reliable internet that can keep up really matters and why you need Optimum's famously fast fiber internet. It blows flaky 5G home internet out of the water.

26:47It has the fastest and most reliable internet speeds and doesn't slow down when everyone's online, which let's be honest, is all the time. Right now, they have a deal that's tough to beat, just$25 a month for five years. So don't wait. Call 888-4-OPTIMUM. Visit Optimum.com or stop by your local Optimum store today. Famously fast fiber for$25 a month for five years. That's a no-brainer. Terms apply. See Optimum.com for details. No, but her big, that's why they're calling her big. Big. Came in with that big sack. We ended up making him settle for a field goal.

27:32James Harrison:That dude was a baller. Stepping in for a high school. Don't lose a beat. 20 to 12. Now, look. Look. I ain't going to lie to you. I'm kind of nervous. Because there's a lot of time left. And I'm like, yo. Offense. all I need y 'all to do is burn some clock. Burn the clock. And you know what they did for your boy? They did one battle. They did more than that. They did one battle, brother. They put together 12 plays, 65 yards, six-minute touchdown drive, brother. Hey, Mason, hang on that one. He went 6-74. Even after we had got a 15-yard face match. brother that's a lot of and you know at the same time that's a lot of yak that's a lot of game well catching and making people miss and getting yards after the catch because some of those you know it was some dump downs but game was being able to make moves you got to be able to see the dump down now you got to make sure it's still your responsibility to do it i'm not taking away from mason rudolph at all i'm loving the fact that he was able to make the dump off too i'm just saying It's a team sport, and we got players making plays.

28:55James Harrison:Him getting it into the playmaker's hands. I'm geeked. I'm a Mason Rudolph fan. So I'm saying he's doing exactly what I was hoping for and what you were hoping for. Yes, sir. And it happened right in front of our eyes, Evo. Hey, the Bungles get back out there. Hey. Force, what we do on defense, Joe? Man, we're opportunistic. What we do, Joe? We create turnovers. We get interceptions, we get strip sacks, and we strip people of the ball. Yes. And we score. Score. My man Pierre scooped his. 34, come to the house. T-T-34. Y 'all touched down to the house. With a front flip. With a front flip, he could have landed on his feet.

29:42Almost could have. Almost could have. He could have. He got scared. He ain't know if he was going to rotate all the way through and hit his face. I need a little bit more rotation. He got scared. He was trying to find the ground. 34-12. You know. Hey, man. Game basically over, man. It ain't nothing but like, what is it? A little over three minutes left.

30:01James Harrison:They little dead balls. They marched down there. But guess what? At the end of the day, we ended it again. Turn it on down. Defend. Pierre almost had another pick. Uh-huh. Fourth and one. You want to throw a little hit over there? Pierre almost hit that off. Stop playing. Game over. Ball game. Ball game over. Listen here, man. We the Pittsburgh Stoes. this is what we do now let's go ahead hey i ain't gonna sit here and make like we ain't got no problems while the defense did perform better oh especially the dbs like these dudes was hitting they was playing clean you understand and they're gonna have to hit and tackle because looking at this dude, just looking at how we're lined up, what we're doing, who has to do what, these DBs are going to actually have to tackle like linebackers do.

30:58The defensive line, for the most part, is consistently getting pushed back. Like I told you before, I saw the one play where the whole D line was at least three yards back, wasn't nobody nowhere else. The defense from me looking at it, dude, there's no way it's a gap sign. There's no way they're gapped out properly. I'm seeing things that's impossible to even gap out just from how you're lined up. So from a just alignment assignment,

31:32James Harrison:it is adequately trashed. I'll ask you this about the D-line with the one game. What do you think made it different when they played against the Colts? Because we've seen that they can do it. They did it versus Jonathan Taylor, the best running, you know what I'm saying, the best running back in the league. Why do you think that it worked so good that game? Because they showed us, you know what I'm saying, that they can do it. You know what I'm saying? So, like, why do you think it's just game by game? Consistently, we do not do well on the D-line. That has been day one, period. We've been getting pushed off the ball either here or there.

32:06And when you have a guy that – it's nowhere where our whole D-line is playing on their side of the line. It's nowhere where, you know, on a consistent basis, I'll say, where our holding line is, you know, they're trying to, the offensive lineman is trying to operate from a yard deep. They're getting our ground. The best that I have seen is we get a stalemate or we get a guy here or there that penetrates through the line. And sometimes they still make it through because that creates a vertical hole. You got this guy who actually did his job. He's a yard deep. But you got this dude right here who's two yards.

32:41James Harrison:He's getting pushed back.

32:46So, like, and like I said, just the alignment assignment as it is instructed from the defense itself. Like, yes, a man has to whoop a man, but I'm looking at this. And from an alignment assignment standpoint, you're asking a man to whoop a man and then whoop another man, too. He got to whoop two men. Oh, like, it's. That's not. Yeah. So you think. Dude, something wrong with the defense. Period. It's not. I got you. The D coordinator needs something. Something ain't right. It ain't. It's too many times I'm seeing a guy do the same thing. And if he's doing the same thing and you still keep him out there, the dude behind him got to be horribly trash or he's doing what he's supposed to do, which don't look like it's supposed to be done because we keep getting hit.

33:36James Harrison:No, I see what you're saying with the run game. It's just too many times where it's explosive plays, too many gaps, too many vertical holes. Not even explosive plays all the time. It is consistency. Dude, the running back almost had 100 on 18 carries, bro. That's over five or five. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. No, that's what I'm saying. Explosive plays, it's just like 10-yard runs. Anything over a 10-yard run is explosive. I'm like, they're busting getting first-yard runs on first down, running for damn near a first down. like 12 yard carries, 15 yard carries. And then they'll bust out one for 30 something.

34:10James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Eventually if they break too many breaker tackles in the secondary, but I'm with you a thousand percent on that. I think the good thing is with the defense, our secondary, like you said, stepped up a whole lot. And it's just a lot of things is with the third down. Right. We also got to do situationally better. Situationally, that's what I'm saying. With the long third downs. So I would say the first third down, when Queen, We just got to get our situation. It's third and 11. Don't drop back past 11. Don't drop to 13. Drop to 11 where your feet are meshed on the sticks so you can react down and make sure they drop it short or you can make a play on the ball.

34:46James Harrison:Then on the third and sixth, the man to man. Some ones, they're going to get rub routes. But on the long ones, we need to be situationally aware to where we're dropping to the sticks and making sure they can come back down and make those plays. The run game, like you said, I've seen them do it. So I know that they can. I just think that that's every man whoop a man. And when you're saying sometimes alignment, sometimes schemes might be a little off. I'm seeing stuff where it can't be filled. You don't have enough people there to fill the gaps that are available. So that means you got somebody that got to whoop two men.

35:21James Harrison:That shouldn't be the case. That shouldn't be the case. That shouldn't be the case. It don't make no sense. the offense though hey they just they just they just got to improve all all over 30 second rate defense and that's that's what we get like I'm not they didn't they didn't yeah you know they didn't look like a 30 second rate defense you know I mean but hey what'd they say I ain't never gonna apologize for winning this I ain't never gonna apologize for winning. I ain't never apologize for winning, baby.

36:03Now look here, man.

36:04James Harrison:That's a fact. They ejected. Hey, Rams, I told you I gotta apologize to you. They ejected my guy, Rams, for punching. And I'm like, this got to be the illest brother in Nebraska for just taking off on this man. But, hey, Jamar said he didn't spit on him. Hey, we got that? Listen, we got that? Walk us through what happened with Jim. Extaging words. You were saying that you spit on him? Did you spit on him? I ain't never opened my mouth to that guy. What do you think prompted the reaction from him? Well, he don't like some of those worries I told him. He's been going back and forth the whole time, so I'm sure something got under his skin.

36:58He said something got under his skin. He ain't did nothing to that guy. He said he ain't opened his mouth to that guy. But you know what's so crazy, man? I mean, the eye in the sky don't lie. It's about a thousand and a thousand cameras out there. And you got other people. You know what I'm saying? 8, 55, 75K. 50 million K. 30 ,000, 34 ,000. Hey, there's more cameras in the game now than you've ever had in the history of the world. Now, I know I'm older than you and my vision going, but tell me if you can see what I saw. Can you please show the video?

37:37James Harrison:Let me check.

37:45Spit.

37:48James Harrison:That was a lie, right? That was a lie, right? Yep. Yep. It don't matter. It wasn't like I was talking and you know how you be talking and something just fly, like BC when he talking. Yeah, because it's a bunch of gum. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't to say it don't spray it. He tried to do the slope. Bruh, you spit on that man. Listen, it ain't nothing more disrespectful than spitting on somebody. This stuff, dude, Jalen, you better than me? I would have still been trying to get him. And listen, I don't even think this is going to stop here. If you spit on me, I'm going to find out where you're at in the offseason.

38:31Period. It's no other way. NFL, y 'all need to make an example of this cat and give him four, six games to let these dudes know. because this is really something that could spill off of the field on into the offseason, dude. Like, even if I can't beat you, if you're a mix of John Jones, Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali all together, bruh, everybody got somebody. If I don't do nothing else but have somebody lay on you for two weeks, find out where you go going to offseason, where you go to kick it, and all of a sudden, it was a random attack. somebody in a ski mask slapped so-and-so in the head with a bottle as he was leaving whatever.

39:13I got to get my... I'm dead serious. I know you are. I know you are, T-Bo. I mean, that's not me now. I ain't gonna lie. That might still... You know,

39:29James Harrison:that's not you right now. That's not you right now. I hope it was. I hope it ain't. Don't spit on me, please. Don't nobody... Don't nobody try to find out. Don't nobody try to find out. Okay? I got to lose everything. This is what I have to say on the situation. One thing is, when the freak did it become cool to start spitting on people? You know what I'm saying? We always say, keep your hands to yourself. Keep your feet to yourself. Treat people the way you want them to be treated. Slapping somebody, open hand smacks. All this stuff is, nothing is more disrespectful than spitting somebody. I think this is like the third time this year.

40:10James Harrison:And like, it's not cool. It's disgusting. You know what I'm saying? It's very, very disrespectful, and it's just something that shouldn't be in the league. I love Jamar Chase. Great player. Amazing receiver. My favorite receiver in the league. But what the f*** makes it cool that, and then going to lying about it. We're blatant on 4K. Everybody sees what the hell's going on. Everybody sees the situation. Jalen Mams, you have every right to do exactly what you did in like Debo's situation. You know what I'm saying? But like, that's just disgusting. And I hate seeing like people keep doing it. Like, oh yeah, they went, I meant to spit them.

40:44James Harrison:Like, what are we doing? You know what I'm saying? I don't, I just don't rock with people. And then you sit there and lie. Like, they ain't gonna find you. Then you go. Like, that's like people who steal and think they ain't gonna get caught. They got five cameras pointed at you right now. And you think you cupped them in your hand. No, they saw you grab it. And it never left your hand to get back on the shelf. They saw the spit fly out your mouth. Like, come on. We got the footage. That's you. And you got the Jamar Chase. It says Chase on the back of your jersey. You got your helmet on. Is you looking at the other guy, the assailant, that said, Jalen Ramsey, he says you spit on him.

41:21James Harrison:Did you? No. No. All right. We'll go to the film. You lying like a little kid. You lying like a little kid, man. That's a shame, man. You're a grown man. You got caught. You lying like a little kid. You scared. What? No, for sure. Because you know you did wrong. You know you wrong. Dude. I'm up here hot. Like, yo, Ramsey, you done went on here and did this for no reason. You done put us in jeopardy. Like, now, no. Listen, I see why they couldn't get him off. They wouldn't have been able to get me off the field. The locker room that they at for our locker room is directly right there. I'd have been sitting in his locker under something, waiting.

42:05James Harrison:And especially, I know why Jalen was sitting there because he like this. He spit on me. And now, because this was the first thing, they had the first little scuffle. They talk and they get the pity. So they both have the warning. And now when I see Jalen still off on him, I'm like, dang, and Jamar Chase didn't even move his arm. I'm like, man, you let him into doing that. I know, but I'm thinking it's just words at that time. for sure same thing that I was thinking at the same point so now we're looking at it but then Jalen for him not the one to go off the field he like this no this could just spit on me and now y 'all kicking me out of the game I'm not going nowhere till he leaves the field like I got spit on you know what I'm saying obviously I'm going to spaz and retaliate but like nah he then he's sitting there like acting like never happened to chase like this I'm good I'm good I'm like yeah Of course you good.

42:53James Harrison:You think you done got away with it. They telling you, you chilling. Anyway, man, but hey, that's what we do, man. We go win, win, win no matter what. Hey, man, listen. No matter what. I'm going to tell you right now, man. I 100 % think that the Browns just hate the Steelers so much they're willing to kill themselves. What happened? with your Browns, Joe. Did you watch the game? I can't say I watched the game. I can't say they got a legal formation, you know, when they went for that 4-1, even though after they made it. I can't say that they got a field goal off that. I can't say a lot of things, but did you, I mean, you tell me what happened, Joe.

43:41James Harrison:Everything you said happened exactly like, right. The thing is, sometimes just the Browns offense, like we said, when you're not that, when you don't have too much, when you're not just abundance of talent, you can't do, you have to do little things right. You can't hurt yourself. You can't be setting up penalties. So long story short, like you said, Debo, first drive, we get it down to get ready to go for the fourth and one. We go for it. We convert it. And we are in an illegal formation. Like somebody is covered up. That's what bad teams do. You're expecting, you're supposed to plan for this practice for this knowing these situations knowing you're supposed to you're going to be in this this is our short this is our short yardage situation this man needs to be on the line this person needs to be off the line you know what I'm saying so that happened punt the ball starts off bad so get D-ball I know you I know you seen it what are you talking about I'm just trying to hear you know just you know just give it a synopsis baby you know what I'm saying you know what happened next did anybody so score score

44:54I think the game started off 3-0. I don't know.

44:56James Harrison:I didn't watch it. Ravens got a field goal. Ravens got a field goal because then Miles Garrett, we bend but don't break. They got some runs. They got down there. Miles got a sack, his first sack of the day. Well, you're going to hear about that a lot throughout the day. You know what I'm saying? So they ended up getting three. Browns get the ball back. 13-yard run. Starts off right. Juckins, you know what I'm saying? Juckins again. This is when we started just handing the ball to Juckins. Juckins started running the ball good. We did some... Dylan Gabriel... Go ahead. Well, yeah, yeah. Okay, Dylan Gabriel, he has a chance to do...

45:39James Harrison:He does a rollout, so then the first time we pass it for Dylan Gabriel, he just, on the out route, just throws the ball out of bounds. Did y 'all get a touchdown?

45:49James Harrison:I'm good. No, we didn't get a touchdown. We got a field goal. Oh, okay. Oh, so it's 3-3. Okay. We got a field goal. It's 3-3. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead, Joe. We get it to the Ravens. Great coverage. Defense doing what they normally do. They punt. Browns get the ball back. But a punt. Right. What happened? What happened? What happened on the... I want to get to a punt. What happened on the punt? I don't know. I heard somebody was on the six-yard line, and they only got a field goal from it. That's what they told me. This is when I started telling you, too. The Ravens was trying to help us out a little bit.

46:41James Harrison:Our special teams ball, when they punted the ball off, they fumbled it and we get the ball at the six yard line. You got a touchdown? We don't get no we don't score. First down we first we don't get we don't we understand what they did to that dog. What you what are you talking about? You get a field goal. Go ahead. So then punt the ball off. I mean we kick the ball off. Ravens get it. What do they do? what do the Ravens do? Ravens went on here and said, hey, let us spot you seven more. We don't care. Here, interception touchdown. Here. Yes. Here, they gave it to you. They like to make it tough.

47:26They know if they go ahead and play you up front and don't give you a lead, it ain't going to be an entertainer for the fans. Off the heezy. And then what they do immediately after that when they got that ball back, though. They said, we don't want y 'all to think you're actually doing this on your own. We helping you. They went on here and scored the touchdown. They said, we're going to keep it within three. Hey, most we're going to let y 'all do is six ever. You know what I'm saying?

47:55James Harrison:What's the score now? 13-10? 13-10 right now. And then they said, hey, let's make it exciting again. They let y 'all get a field goal, man. They let y 'all get a field goal. You know? And then on top of that, they said, we ain't going to even score on that next possession. we're going to halftime and we're going to let you boys go ahead and be up I don't know why we started calling timeouts before the half like our offense was about to do something I don't know what he was thinking so that just threw me all the way off Dylan wasn't alright let's go to the second half I ain't going to lie to you man it wasn't nothing but a little bit of a punt fest going back and forth there.

48:43Yeah, and then Shadour came in there.

48:47James Harrison:Shadour came in to start the third. Yes. Shadour came in when they start the third. So this is when, let's get to, so we're 16-10 halftime.

49:00James Harrison:Ravens get the ball. Myles Garrett comes in there, gets a tackle for loss. Then he gets a sack, his fourth sack of the day. Then the Ravens got a punt. He's getting 100 sacks. It ain't going to matter. All right, look. So then Shador comes in there. I get very excited. I'm happy. I want to go. I'm hoping that he comes out there and does well, but at the same time, he hasn't practiced. We're going to get to when he hasn't practiced. All right, man. This is Tony A.O. from The Real Report with Tony A.O. and Uncle Murda. You ever notice how everything keeps going up? Rent's going up. Streaming services are going up.

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50:12James Harrison:Some things never change. Switch now for unlimited wireless at a price that will never go up. Only at Boost Mobile. After 30 gigabytes, customers may experience slower speeds. Customers will pay$25 a month as long as they remain active on a Boost Unlimited plan. Hi, it's Karen in Georgia from My Favorite Murder. We cruised around L.A. in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr. Want the full story? Take a listen. Hedy, she starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him? I mean, I watch The Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him.

50:49But incredible innovator. Right. She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well. Give us examples. I know. They do get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings. And she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie Jean King.

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52:29James Harrison:Me need the stills. Not off the rip. Not off the rip. I need the stills. Not off the rip. He was out there. He got a strip sack, and they had to punt on his first drive. The Ravens get the ball back. They get the fourth and eight. Hey, what's up? Listen, at least Lamar gave it right back to you. Right after that. Yes. Okay? So, we scratch. Okay? Yes. Shador second drive. First and 10. Junkin slips and falls. Second down. Incomplete pass. Corner jumped around. Third and 10. Third and 10. I don't know if it was, if he knows how to slide to protection, who missed the block, but it was three people blocking one person on the right.

53:18James Harrison:Joe, Joe, Joe. Okay. What's up? We'll get to that, Joe. Nothing happened, Joe. The Ravens came back out there. They got another field goal, okay? You see? Do you see this picture I'm talking about? This is when he threw the pick. He gets smacked. Like, right here, it's one person over there to the right blocking, and we have three of our players blocking that guy. So you're saying he called that protection like that? No. I'm saying I don't know. Who called the protection? I don't know if he knew that, like, this is his first time in. We need to know, like, hopefully the line is sliding it to this side.

53:57James Harrison:There was some miscommunication. Something's going on right here where this shouldn't happen. Well, considering you don't get a chance to practice with the ones, we'll get to that. We'll get to that. But I'm just saying, this does not look right for either the lineman, the quarterback, the sliding, the protection, obviously. So he sits right there, stands in the pocket, throws a pick, and it doesn't look good for my man. Braves get the ball on the 16-yard line. And then Brown's defense again. You know what I'm saying? Lamar Jackson throws the ball, hits off somebody's head, and then my young boy, 49, jumps up, makes a pick, makes a play, gets the ball right back for us.

54:32James Harrison:So now, Shadour goes back out there. Right, right. So now, on the first and 10 on this one, he gets to scrambling out. You don't throw the ball back behind your body like this. He could have thrown a pick on the first play. So I'm not here to say, like, I'm going to be honest when everybody plays. Like, Dylan at the beginning of the game, too, he had passes. He threw one good pass. And that's the one thing about Dylan. He threw a good pass to Tillman, and you see Swartz. Listen, Joe. This is what I'm going to do, Joe. What? This is what I'm going to do. What you going to do? I'm just going to go ahead and let you get to Shador, okay?

55:09Okay, so this is what we're going to do. Okay. Y 'all stall out all day. They kick two more field goals. Hey, man, I could have swore like I seen a dude take off like he was running forever. Big dude. Big giant dude. Oh, yeah, yeah. But anyway, man. Yeah, yeah. It's 16-16, right? That's a field goal. Hey, just push you. Fake the push. Fake the push. Certify y 'all touchdown. Got to be more careful. And then y 'all go out there and turn it over on downs. Now, let's go ahead and get to the Browns issues. The Browns issues is y 'all offense is trash, trash. There's nothing else I can say. Period.

55:48Okay. Now, let's get to my guy or your guy, Shadour. How do you think Shadour played, man?

56:00James Harrison:I don't think Shadour played good at all, honestly. Four for 16, 47 yards. Sometimes just standing back in there, you know what I'm saying? Just moving a little bit too slow. And I'm not going to blame him too much because at the end of the day, how many reps has he got? this is first time out there at all getting any snaps, being able to throw the ball to Judy. This is crazy talk, though. Him being there since being drafted, rookie camp, everything, and not being able to have any time to throw the ball to these players is crazy. So the ill-preparedness of him, and not like, if you're a backup quarterback, we know he's going to get, you're not going to get a lot of reps at all.

56:43James Harrison:But when Dylan Gabriel was the backup quarterback, was he getting any reps? just in case something were to happen. If your starter goes down, your backup needs some type of reps. So him not going in there. I've never heard in my life. In your life. In your life. Second string quarterback never getting any time with the one in history of a season ever. Ever. Ever in life. Now, listen. It's two levels of people, man, that are looking at shit. Hold on. that want him. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. I'm not done. Because it's not, and this is the thing too, I'm not here to be a Shador. I'm going to be honest.

57:26James Harrison:So you can't stand up here and say the 4 for 16 was great. I don't think it was, wasn't a good performance. He did a little things a little too slow. Some of just the intentional groundings, stuff like that, we just can't have. But the deep ball, the dig when he did have time, throwing that dagger on time, standing up in the pocket, like being able to be of really a quarterback, throwing the first two passes he did, like rolling out to the pocket, throwing it on target, not high. Some of the passes that were dropped, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, there was a couple of them that were dropped.

57:56James Harrison:That were dropped. So I'm not going to say he didn't, like he played like a horrible game, but that wasn't Shador's best. And he knows that too. You know what I'm saying? He's like, man, how did you play? I didn't do good. So I'm not here to be like, no, Shador played great. There's a lot of reasons why he played the way he did, but I'm really excited because now he at least gets, for the Shador haters, Just like, man, throw your door in. And just trying to bash him. Now look what you got. This is what you got now. Be happy with him. I'm like, no, no, no. Shut your mouth. We watched Dylan Gabriel.

58:24James Harrison:He's been able to get his first 15 plays. He's been able to sit, get reps with the coaches, been able to get reps with the coordinator, be able to find what plays I like, what I feel comfortable with on third down, what plays I feel comfortable with. So this was not good, but let's give him a leash. He's going to get his time. We able to see Dylan Gabriel throw one good pass a game. that I saw and just a lot of Aaron was. So I've always been brutally honest of just, if it's a bad pass, you throw something in the ground. That's what it is. If you throw a good pass, it's a good pass. So Dylan's been able to throw, like it's consistently two good passes per game.

58:58James Harrison:I can be like, that's a nice pass. That's not good enough. You know what I'm saying? If you want to be a professional quarterback. So with Shador's performance today, that was not, the other day, that wasn't good. But for him to now be able to finally get to go in there, for him to now finally be able to throw the ball to the starting receivers, being able to meet with the line and get his cadence, be able to know protections, being able to get who's calling these protections, being able to just get a feel, being able to get his feet wet, like he said, for this game, unexpectedly just getting thrown in to Dylan Gabriel's playbook.

59:30James Harrison:You may not perform well. So I don't think he played good at all, but I'm very excited for him now to be able to get some plays and be able to get out there and be able to play with his stuff, be able to get some plays that he likes, be able to get some practice under his belt, and get out there with a clean opportunity. So, I'm geek. It's two levels of people. It's two different kind of people that want to see Shador do something. It's the Shador haters who hate him because of his father, who hates him because they feel like he got an opportunity that he didn't that hates him because he is who he is okay period yeah and there's other people who are like yo i want to see him do well okay i want to see him do well i just don't want to see him do well against us now that being said i'm 100 with you shador Shador did not have a good game, but Shador did make throws.

1:00:33He did make decisions that were good and bad, could have made better decisions. Again, at the same time, you're trying to make like, oh, he's supposed to come in here as the backup quarterback who has never had a snap with the ones. He has never seen real game time speed because preseason is not game time speed and you're going to judge him as if he's stepping in there as Tom Brady coming through and just supposed to come in here and lace and light everything up. And you don't gave this boy that's in front of him more than enough time and he is still not able to do it. The comparison of the two is very close with one guy getting no snaps.

1:01:18And I'm just talking about right here in this half period so all your shador haters y 'all keep hating they keep shador in there he go get time he go get a chance to be like oh this is how fast my dude is running the route this is where i need to put the ball oh these guys are going to get to me faster this i need to throw this ball faster he breaks here i can throw it faster as soon as he cuts to there because i know where he's going he ain't had the timing to get all that together okay he ain't had the time to work with his lineman and realize, hey, crazy, you know, I might need to know if so-and-so is over here.

1:01:56You know, everybody knows who the lineman is that may let somebody slide through on you. Somebody knows who may make a mistake, which you got to adjust to. Same thing, your receivers. Hey, you got to go ahead and know, hey, how he likes to run his route, where he cuts on his route. Is he going to adjust to his route? Like the one, like he could have hit the tight end, But, dude, he's reading probably his primary, and he don't even get time to really get to it. But if he knows that the blitz come in, he done had time to play. You know you're hot. Boom, right to the top end. Come on. Stop hating on the man.

1:02:29Come on.

1:02:29James Harrison:Give him time. Then, Debo, he threw the ball at the end of the game, too, in the end zone. That was a great play by the defensive back. That was a great play. It was in his hands. If they catch the ball. Oh, well, he threw a ball across his body. Yes, that's the decisions that you make when you haven't had the time to be out there. And he's trying to make a play. He's trying to win the game. I done seen your boy Dylan, whoever he is, do the same thing persistently, at least one time every other game. This man had one half and never had a snap. Never had a snap with the ones. if you as a Cleveland Brown fan or an owner or the GM and he ain't had a snap and he yo too y 'all need to fire your head coach now it's crazy it's crazy that's what in the position to lose just put Dylan back in when we play see look I appreciate your honesty with that Debo I appreciate your candor you know but for real for real Because when I look at Shador, when you look at Shador, and I just don't like when people get done wrong.

1:03:39James Harrison:I like when it's a fair – NFL is the game where the best players get the most opportunity, and nobody's trying to set you up for failure. I just don't want to feel like he's getting set up for failure. Oh, I 100 % think that he is not being assisted the same way as they assisted Dylan, period. Yeah. So I just hope now being able to get out there – and the smart thing is, Shador is a baller. He knows when he didn't play well. He was like, man, I didn't play well. So now when I get the chance to go out there, prep for the game, you know you're going to be starting. You know you're going to be out there.

1:04:13James Harrison:It's a whole different type of prep, and you're going to get reps, and you know that you're going out there for a purpose. So I'm geeked for him. No question. What's the first thing he did when he got in the locker room? Hey, guys, that's on me. Hey, that's me. He tried to take the full blame for it. But, like, you know, it's a team game, and, you know, like you said. Hey, that's leadership. And what's your other leader telling? What did Garrett say? This ain't just on you. What are you talking about? This is a team. Come on, bro. It's a team. The locker room already got his back. Stefanski. Huh?

1:04:50James Harrison:That was the most energy. And did you hear his response to how he was saying how the crowd was, the crowd started booing for Dylan. He threw that third and five-yard route out of bounds. Hey, tell me about that. My bad. I post I ain't seen the game. Go ahead. No, no, no. You seen just the out route. I'm like, you can't not just throw that out route. I'm sorry. That's just bad pass. He's wide open. And then the crowd started booing. And then Shadov was like, I ain't going to lie. I just don't like when the crowd were booze because at the end of the day, it's support. But you don't want to feel dealing uncomfortable.

1:05:28James Harrison:I'm loving his just trying to have his man's back because at the end of the day, he's not rooting for his downfall but when you get out there it's like the crowd wanted the crowd wants your door they seen enough you've seen him for five games I've been watching and trying to be as honest and like man when he makes a good pass I'm not just saying get him out of there like give him a chance let him start like give him like four more like before he gets four games gets five games alright no now he's out he's concussed and he wasn't doing that well I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you this right now I'm gonna tell you this right now from the performance the boy had I'm talking about Dylan.

1:06:02Leading up to now. And him getting put out with concussion. If they bring him back next week, Stefanski hates Shador.

1:06:16James Harrison:Facts. Facts. One deep hundred percent. If he brings him back, he needs to let that man get his noggin right. Go through the protocol. You know what I'm saying? Go through the protocol. You rushing him for what? It's a piece of week. He ain't won you not one game. Rushing him back to not let Shador get his first 15. No, no, no, no. We play the Browns. I don't know. I think they play Vegas this week coming up. Hey, yeah. And then I'll go to the next one. I'm going week by week with the Browns, man. I'm going week by week. Get a man time to rest his head. Okay? He obviously has trouble figuring out things.

1:07:00His accuracy is trash. So now his eyes go be a little woozy. Like, but it's crazy. Svansky, listen, I don't care what you do. I hope you get fired. You deserve it. Just from the comments that you said about him, like you don't know who your backup, who your number two quarterback is and you just got rid of Joe Flacco and you only got one of the quarterback on there. You was a piece of trash. He was fired.

1:07:25James Harrison:Shout out to DM. I'm playing, yeah. You right. Shout out to Devin Bush with the pick six. Hold up. I got to show you real quick, Debo. Here you go. It's a D. Bush jersey. Okay. Okay. We did time. That's another good man. He did time. He got drafted by the Steelers. Now he with the Browns. He's another one of my cross-contaminated brothers. He cross-contaminated? Yep. Bruh, man. Bruh. Oh, my. Dude, we out of time, bruh. It's 12 o 'clock. We're going to have to catch up on the rest of these, man, tomorrow. But what we're going to do right now, man, is, Joe, we got a super chat right there, Joe? Let me see that.

1:08:09James Harrison:I don't got the super chat on my house. Let me check and see, brother. Check out your vibes. Oh, we got a super chat. We got a super chat? Super chat. Please, tell me something, chat. Black Wolf 0412. He donated$5. He said, I'm going right to the point. If any players spit on you, Debo, would you have the same reaction the same way? Nah, bro. I'd have went to jail. Dude, I would have, like, I'd have at least tried to, like, get all the way, rip his helmet off. Jalen actually kind of, you know, he subdued himself after he got a couple off and he realized he wasn't fighting back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:08:54And he was like, kind of like, no, no, it wouldn't have been no stopping. Helmer would have been off. Like, it would have been, dude, honestly. The old me, I said the old me. The old me would have cleared both sides. Would have cleared both bases.

1:09:12James Harrison:You wouldn't have let go. You would have ground a pound a deep bone. No, bruh. I would not have let go, dude. I would not have let go. It's too strong. Hey, man, Rick from New York. Hey, he gave$4.99. he said with Dick LaBoa as your D coordinator, pick a head coach to play your entire career for Cower or Tomlin. Ooh, that's a hard one.

1:09:43That's a you question right there. You know what? I'd have to go. I'd have to go Cower. I'd have to go Cower. I liked, I liked what we had as a team.

1:10:01James Harrison:How many years did you do with each one? Oh, man. I think it was only, here's the thing. I would like to go with Coward because of his approach and how he coached, how he led his players and, and, and so on and so forth. His, his, his, his personnel, you know, he had coaches in there that, that, that, that were, you know, great talents, you know, guys that went other places, did other things, and like Coach LeBow, dude. You know what I'm saying? Like, come on. So that for me is, you know, why it would be cower.

1:10:43But I don't know.

1:10:45James Harrison:I can respect that. No, when you got coaches like that, you picking between – that's the hard part when you pick between grades. You know what I'm saying? It's not like you trying to shoot down one to say something good about the other. It's like you got – you're like, man, both great picks. I could pick either one, but if you're asking me for my personal – Honestly, for me, what it comes down to is I like what we had as far as a defense, and I think a lot of that came from how Cowher picked his players and how he brought you up. Like, if you didn't play well on special teams with Cowher, you wasn't starting.

1:11:22I don't care. You weren't coming in and just starting because I picked you at this position or that position. Like, it's not happening, dude. It's not happening. Like, you know, and like Coach Butts, best linebacker coach I ever had, man. Like, we had guys that, you know, they went and taught you the position. Like, they played the position. We had guys that played the position. So, they taught you the position. You knew, you know, you had the nuances of the position and then you knew what was going to be difficult and you knew what was you were never asked to do anything that was impossible yeah you know what i'm saying they picked players that would play to the position we needed them for so if i need casey hampton why do i need casey hampton because we run a true three four we don't run a bastardized four three we run a true three four what that mean that mean your three interior linemen gotta take up five at least four for sure they gotta be big body middle man you gotta be able to hold two and move nowhere and that's what casey hampton did on top of that his backup chris hope hope sorry it's hulk he did the same thing there and it was pick the player that makes sense for the position learn it learn it in the inside and out and teach it to your backup.

1:12:48It was only one player that ever started on Dick LeBow's defense as a rookie, and that was Kendra Bell. And you know why? We played gap defenses. Gap defenses means it tells the Mac, gap, Mac, sword, knife, gun, whatever it is, it tells the Mac, take off to A-gap on the right, A-B-C-D on the right, or A-B-C-D on the left, because it's so hard to understand and learn that defense. By the time I came back, dude, I think when I came back, we had two or three rookies starting on the defense that ended up having to be changed because you can't learn it. You don't know it. But they're being put out there to start, rushed into the start because that's what they want done.

1:13:38and it destroyed the defense to where you know by dude we had we used to have goal sheets so you remember i don't you wasn't even here you came in 17 right you had no goal sheet right

1:13:52James Harrison:i don't think i had a goal sheet i just saw the sack

1:13:57after 16 because we couldn't hit them so it was a goal sheet where you had it was like i think like 15 things and it was coach LeBow's goal sheet so these 15 things if you got somewhere between 12 or more you had like a 90 something chance of the game y 'all winning again and these goals were based on like what the top 5 percent or 10 percent whatever it was I think it was five it was five or ten I can't remember of the league had did the previous years so yards per game yards per catch two yards per throw, all this other stuff. We stopped that in 16 because, dude, we were not getting the goals.

1:14:38So they just stopped it all together. I'm not going to keep this sheet up. But also, Coach LeBeau was gone. It was a change of him. So instead of us coming in, you know, every week, and we're looking at this goal sheet, and we ain't got nothing but, you know, three of them chat. They just did away with it. So now you don't even have a goal. You don't have numbers. You don't have anything that you're setting your standard on to aspire to. Like, Coach LeBow had analytics before they were analytics. He already had that. That's what it was set up. And the only reason I noticed is because I asked him, like, yo, Coach, the number went up a little bit from this year to this year, from last year to this year.

1:15:25Well, the numbers of the average from last year went up. So instead of it being a run of, you know, like 3.1 and went to 3.2. So every run has to average less than 3.2. Every pass has to average less than, you know, what was it, six or seven something, whatever it was. Like, you know, and if you hit those goals, you're going to be in that top five defense. So, boom, like that was our team goal. So what's our team go right now? We don't have anything.

1:16:03James Harrison:I mean, we're turning over the ball. We're creating turnovers, which is good. We need to, like you said, Debo, the gaps, people not in the same gap, people having to do too much for a job. I don't know how. Like you said, that's defensive. That's coordinational change. So I don't know how that's going to change unless you. Yeah, we got one more Super Chat, baby. I've been, what is it, labbing? $5. He asked you this question. He said, Will, Miles Garrett, break the sack record. What do you got right now? 15, 16? I think they said he got, I think it's going to be seven games left, and he got eight sacks to break it.

1:16:50James Harrison:with these multiple sack games, and I don't see he got the five, and then he backed it up with the four. He got 10 in the last four weeks. So, I mean, I could easily see him getting a sack a week, and one of these don't get three. I mean, he's playing against the outcome. He's going to go against probably the Bengals again. Do they play the Steelers? I think they play the Steelers again. Yes. And then Cincinnati at the Ravens play against them. I think he might play everybody in the division. So, you know, with our divisions, it's possible. They say it's the Raiders, the 49ers, Titans, Bears, Bills.

1:17:30See, messing around with the Raiders, he might mess around.

1:17:33James Harrison:Look, messing around, he goes against the Raiders and gets a three-piece. Like, I'm not seeing it. Geno Smith standing back there in the line isn't the best. So he can go easily, you know what I'm saying, get them behind the sticks. They stop the run. And then Miles got to start teeing off, you know what I'm saying? So he go get three. He got us and the bangles at the end. So, I mean, awesome. Listen, man, we got to get out of here. I got to get going, man. I'm supposed to be somewhere in a little bit. But look, we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of D-Boy and Joe. As I say, as I say, we're going to hit the other game tomorrow, baby.

1:18:08But hit the like and subscribe button so you can be here with us tomorrow. And, you know, we're going to be back at this thing. Joe?

1:18:18James Harrison:Yep. Make sure y 'all come catch up, man, tomorrow with your boy and Debo. Appreciate everything. Make sure you hit the like and subscribe button. And we out!

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