In short
Debo & Joe react to Ravens vs. Dolphins (Lamar/Jackson and Baltimore’s second-half dominance), preview Colts vs. Steelers, and discuss NFL front-office/player updates (Dolphins GM Chris Grier parting ways; Shedeur Sanders “update”; Jaguars placing Travis Hunter on IR; Jerry Jones comments; debate about whether Cleveland should trade Myles Garrett).
Guest backgrounds
James “Debo” Harrison and Joe Haden are long-time football voices with playing/coaching perspective; Joe references defensive/DB technique and roster/coaching evaluation, while Debo focuses on game execution and team standards.
Key claims
Ravens’ win hinged on red-zone efficiency and second-half defensive adjustments (more pressure on Tua, stops in the red zone). Dolphins’ losses were driven by missed scoring opportunities (missed field goal, failed red-zone conversions) and a controversial tripping call after a slip. McDaniels showed unusual visible anger. Dolphins are likely entering a GM/roster reset after Chris Grier’s departure; Champ Kelly becomes interim GM.
Notable examples
Mark Andrews TDs (including a 20-yard score), Lamar’s 4 TDs (18/23, 200 yards), Waddle big gains, Kyle Hamilton/defense forcing punts, and a late-game Tua interception. Travis Hunter IR: knee injury, out at least four games.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCelebrating Personal Milestones
0:45 to 1:01
Debo shares a personal milestone celebrating his son's 16th birthday.
“You saved my life, you and your brother.”
Ravens-Dolphins Game Overview
1:01 to 2:14
Discussion about the Ravens' performance against the Dolphins.
“Let's get into this Ravens-Dolphins game.”
Key Plays and Defensive Highlights
2:14 to 3:04
Analysis of significant plays and defensive efforts during the game.
“But they still, you know, the second play, they got the fumble force, you know.”
Miami's Struggles and Missed Opportunities
3:04 to 4:36
Examination of Miami's missed opportunities and offensive challenges.
“They played a lot better in that game, for sure.”
Momentum Shifts and Coaching Decisions
4:36 to 6:06
Discussion on critical moments that shifted game momentum and coaching decisions.
“And we hadn't heard from Likely, but on that third down, dude, he went on ahead.”
Red Zone Efficiency and Execution
6:06 to 8:15
Exploring the importance of red zone efficiency for both teams.
“I'm like, as a coach, how you don't look and see?”
Second Half Dynamics and Defensive Performance
8:15 to 10:41
Analysis of the Ravens' strong second-half performance and Miami's defense.
“well, Miami's defense get right back out there.”
Game Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts
10:41 to 14:00
Final thoughts on the game, highlighting key players and the final score.
“You're not going to have that many possessions in general.”
Lamar Jackson's Dominance
14:00 to 16:56
Discussing Lamar Jackson's impressive performance against the Dolphins.
“And then Tua lets me know that it's too late because he goes immediately, I think, on the second play, second down, and throws a pick.”
Miami's Struggles in the Red Zone
16:56 to 19:22
Analyzing Miami's failure to convert opportunities into points.
“Well, that's why everybody was a little hot under the collar.”
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Breaking News: Dolphins' Management Changes
19:22 to 21:50
Reacting to the news about Miami Dolphins' GM Chris Greer parting ways with the team.
“He's not going nowhere for the bye week.”
Cleveland's QB Situation and Shedeur Update
21:50 to 24:32
Discussing Shedeur's readiness during the bye week and Cleveland’s QB situation.
“Like the Eagles, all I'm saying is this just more like kudos to you.”
Myles Garrett Trade Speculation
24:32 to 28:01
Debating whether trading Myles Garrett would be a smart move for Cleveland.
“Some people can look back on it and say, oh yeah, I could have did da-da-da-da.”
Steelers' Struggles and Concerns
28:01 to 37:00
The hosts discuss the current performance of the Steelers and express their concerns about the team's upcoming game and defense.
“Go, therefore, make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.”
Impact of Travis Hunter's Injury
37:01 to 38:36
The hosts react to Travis Hunter being placed on the IR due to injury and discuss its implications for the Jaguars.
“Dude, Jaguars placed Travis Hunter on the IR due to a knee injury.”
Jerry Jones and Business Priorities
38:37 to 42:00
Discussion about Jerry Jones' focus on business opportunities and how it impacts the Cowboys organization.
“He's shifting his priorities right now to something more lucrative.”
The Cowboys' Legacy and Ownership
42:00 to 45:30
Discussion on Jerry Jones' ownership and the Cowboys' historical performance.
“I had to go ahead and jump on this opportunity real hard because it's way more billions and I had to let y 'all know that, hey, I'm Jerry Jones.”
Halloween and Player Trades
45:30 to 48:20
Lighthearted banter about Halloween and the hypothetical trade of Myles Garrett.
“they have good, they have formidable teams.”
Browns' Historical Struggles
48:20 to 50:50
Insights into the ongoing struggles of the Cleveland Browns in the NFL.
“That would be the scariest thing that could happen today.”
Parenting and Relationships
50:50 to 53:50
Heartfelt reflections on parenting, growing up, and family dynamics.
“The Browns' struggles are frequently cited as a case study on organizational dysfunction.”
Game Predictions and Team Spirit
53:50 to 56:00
Final thoughts on upcoming games and maintaining team spirit despite challenges.
“Hey, listen, I'm going to give you something, dude.”
Steelers Hopes and Expectations
56:00 to 56:48
Discussion about the upcoming Steelers game and the team's performance.
“We need the Steelers to win this week, people.”
Quarterback Trade Speculation
56:48 to 57:28
Speculation about potential quarterback trades involving the Browns and other teams.
“They might go and give away everything they got.”
Bengals and Browns Comparisons
57:28 to 58:08
Comparing the Bengals' organization and the Browns' performance history.
“Listen, Lamar will retire before he let you.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00James Harrison:This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human.
0:07Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Haden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you doing today, Joe?
0:22James Harrison:Doing good, Debo. Doing good. Good Friday. Good Friday. Saw some good football yesterday. coming off my, and then I went this morning, my kids had a little play at school. So both of my boys, man, was so good. So I'm feeling good this morning. Not going to lie. No question. No question. I want to get off the top of the morning. I want to tell my son, Henry. He is a Halloween baby. I want to tell you happy 16th birthday. Happy birthday, Henry. Love you. Wouldn't be who I am without you. You saved my life, you and your brother. I appreciate everything that y 'all do for me. and everything that I do for y 'all is just what's supposed to be done, baby.
0:59Come on, man. I love that, Debo. Let's get into this. Let's get into this Ravens-Dolphins game. Ravens went out there, man, and they put a little something on them. I ain't going to lie, man. The first quarter, I was thinking, like, you know, maybe the Dolphins got a chance. You know, they started off. They had a little short field. They got the ball in midfield with the kickoff, and then he hit Waddle 20 yards on the first play. You know what's so crazy, man? You get the ball in midfield now, and you get a good chunk play, you in field goal range already.
1:37James Harrison:Bro, once you cross the 50 now, as soon as you cross the 50 in field goal range, when I was playing with the 35, you were trying to protect the 35. Now, as soon as you cross half, then they got three. Yeah, for sure. Baltimore, you know, they're able to hold up after that, and they hold them to three. They kick a field goal. They get three points. And then, you know, Baltimore comes out there. And Lamar, he had like a little bad throw. I think that's the only bad throw he had on that third down, low and outside. So they kept doing basically, you know, a three and out. And, you know, after you have a few weeks off, you know, that's what happens.
2:13You know what I'm saying? They punt the ball. Miami gets it back. And, dude, what happened?
2:20James Harrison:They started. This is when they started. this is like what bad teams do. You know? I don't. Yes, it is. But they still, you know, the second play, they got the fumble force, you know. They ripping at the ball, all that. And understandable. But you still got to be able to hold on to that. They give up the ball right there. And I believe it was in their own territory. What was it? Inside the 20? Oh, yeah, for sure. Inside the 20. Baltimore gets the ball. Of course, they go for it on fourth down. and he throws a touchdown to Mark Andrews. And now, you know, it done flipped upside down. That was a good defensive play.
2:58James Harrison:No, I wasn't saying that was what bad teams do on that play. That was a good defensive effort. That dude, he ripped the ball out. They were forced tackling, so that was a good play by the Ravens' defense. They played a lot better in that game, for sure. You know what I noticed, though? Like, as soon as Miami got the ball the first play, Odoo hit 19. It was like their first play, they was like moving it. You know what I'm saying? And it was like the first one. And then I think later on in that same drive, they got one for like about 22 or something. That was the two big plays in that drive. And they go for it on fourth down, fourth and one.
3:31And again, like you were saying.
3:33James Harrison:This is when I was saying what bad teams do. You get the false start. And you're getting a little momentum. You're making plays like you're thinking, now we can get another score. Let's get some points on the board. And you get a false start, which throws you all the way off. And then even to make even more worse, you missed the field goal. No, they made that one. Oh, made that one? I think that was the one they made. No, they made the first one. You're right. They made the first one. He missed this one. So I'm saying like. Yeah, because it could have been. You know, it could have been 6-7. It could have been.
4:05James Harrison:And then they missed the field goal. So that's where. Coach had every right there. McDaniels was pissed. Oh, yeah. This is the first time I seen something out of him. You know what I'm saying? That was real. I was like, okay. And the other thing was the play calling, too, was looking pretty good. I was loving how they were doing the run passes. The two was doing that, like, fake handoff. There was a lot of bang eights. There was a lot of, like, posts right behind people's heads. Like, as soon as you fake something, he's throwing it all the time. So they were doing – they were hitting plays, but they weren't able to capitalize and get any points.
4:35Yeah, and Baltimore get back out there. And we hadn't heard from Likely, but on that third down, dude, he went on ahead. End of the first quarter hit him for, what, was it about 35?
4:44James Harrison:Mm-hmm. Something like that. Yep. Up the sideline. No question. A few plays later, Mark Andrews, that man, show up again. 20-yard touchdown. How do you run into it? That play, how do you run into each other as DTs? You're not looking ahead of you like ain't nobody going to judge. That's what I'm saying. We used to call the joint. It's called a tailpipe. You got to get directly behind the tight end. Because if you're directly behind the tight end, if he don't hit it, you won't hit it. If you're on top of him at all, they're trying to make you collide into each other. And if you don't get directly behind the dude, we do drills like, you got to like on the drag routes on those crossers.
5:23James Harrison:If you don't get directly behind your guy, you're going to run smack into somebody because that's how the play is set up to do. It's so difficult. You know what I'm saying? So if you don't get directly behind them, you're going to run, bam, just like they did right into each other. So it's a technique that the DBs, we always get taught that because rub routes, all that. if you don't get directly behind your guy and then pop up on the other side. You got to do that. No question. Now it's 14-3. Miami gets the ball back. I think Tua, he ended up hitting Waddle, I think it was. It was for like 35, 40, something like that.
5:58But they called a tripping that wasn't a tripping, dude. Was not a tripping. He slipped.
6:05James Harrison:Did you see how pissed he was? Yes. He has every right to be pissed. because the coach is yelling at him. He's like, I didn't do that. I'm like, as a coach, how you don't look and see? He's telling you he didn't do that. How you don't look and look at the top of the thing and say, hey, like, hey, okay, I see it. He just takes off. You know why? Because everybody is under fire over there right now. You know what I'm saying? No, for sure, for sure. You know what? That's a huge momentum shift where they don't get that point. Now you add on top of it. You missed three the first time. So it could be six, seven.
6:34Now you can't get back ahead of the chains. You know what I'm saying? And that could have been a potential touchdown. You know what I'm saying? No, for sure. Potential 10 points where it might have been 13, 14 after this, but they end up punting.
6:50James Harrison:Yeah, that right there is unfortunate because it's not the fault of the player. Like the Dolphins, they did what they had to do. That's just a terrible call. But he slipped. He wasn't trying to trip. He didn't even swing his feet. He didn't even try to. He didn't even kick his leg up. You could tell when dudes are falling, they get that extra kick up. He's falling. He's just falling, and that's all it was. That's like a cut block, if anything. Like, I don't understand that. Baltimore get back out there. The Dolphins stand up. They sack him on the first play. You know what I'm saying? And then I believe on the third down where dude wanted a flag, he gets an unsportsmanlike kind of.
7:27Spazzling on the ref. That puts him back a little further. So they end up punting the ball. Miami comes. and they get a good return, dude, to the 29. Add on top of it, they had a holding penalty. Baltimore did. That's rare, which gave them an extra 10 yards, put them at the 29. Like, dude. And they cannot convert and get a touchdown. They go for a field goal, and it's 6-14.
7:56James Harrison:Yeah. Yeah, dude. They're not being able to get any real. You're in great field position. And then missing field goals, getting out of field goal range, and then just not getting touchdown. You're playing against Lamar Jackson. They're scoring points on the other side. You're not going to beat them with field goals. Yeah, and then the defense, they get, you know, well, Miami's defense get right back out there. They force a three and out. Miami get the ball back. They start driving down the field. I think Tua hits Waddle for a nice third down completion. I think it was like for maybe 15 on the third down.
8:29and then it was another one uh later on along the way for about 25 24 something like that the running back he got something for about 15 20 like that they go for it on the fourth and two they don't make it because it just looked like they had some type of miscommunication going on I don't I don't know and right then and there I don't even know if I go for that on fourth and two. Like, you kick it, it's 9-14. You already, I mean, I understand he missed one, but you already had a missed opportunity here and there. You don't want to keep leaving potential, you know, points out there.
9:06James Harrison:Keep leaving with nothing. Yeah. You got to leave here with something. Like, I got, yeah, like you said, I'm leaving here with something. At some point, you got to leave there with something, you know what I'm saying? And then, Baltimore, again, they go out there and Miami's defense they able to hold up like they doing what they need to do get you the opportunities to get the ball back and I believe that was when Tua got sacked to end the half but at the same time you know when you look at it the missed opportunity the messed up call with the missed opportunity the missed field goal like they could actually mess around and had been up going into the halftime, dude.
9:49Like when you really look at it, halftime, it could have been something totally different. I mean, Baltimore was only one of, what, six on third down, only had about 100 yards, 110 yards, something like that. But the big thing is they was one-on-one in the red zone. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Miami had double yards, like 225. The running back was doing them, 12 for 67. Another five for 35 receiving. But they only two in the red zone, bro.
10:22James Harrison:Yeah, you know how that is. The execution, that red zone efficiency. Once you get down there getting points, seven, if you leave with nothing, leave with zero, you know what I'm saying, like not getting three points, and then you're playing against the Ravens where they're scoring touchdowns. They're getting down there with Andrews. They're marching the ball, and they're getting points off of it. And they're taking time off the clock. You're not going to have that many possessions in general. So you better use them wisely because they're scoring on their possessions. They're taking time off the clock.
10:51James Harrison:And then when you get the rock back, you're looking nuts when you can't score. Yeah, and then the second half, Baltimore gets the ball back. They come out, and, you know, they basically work their way down the field. Third down, Lamar scramble on them because they playing man. Ain't nobody paying no attention. They can't see it. He get 13. like when you look at that drive I think he was like six no seven for seven like ended it with a three-yard touchdown it's it's 20 it's 20 he didn't even miss like it's 21 to six now off rip Miami gets back out there and now the defense starting to show up the deep deep the the uh the Ravens defense kind of used to hearing about and seeing so first play they get a sack Second play, I think it was a negative run.
11:41James Harrison:My man, Kyle Hamilton, all them boys, they was getting up in the line. Yeah. They punt the ball right back off. And I'm like, whoa, this is like Ravens defense that you've been, you know, you've been accustomed to seeing. Like, it's looking like that. Baltimore get the ball back. Four plays, bro. They go. They go. Four play. 60 yards. just under, just over two minutes. Lamar Bussin McGee in a hot two for two, 48, with one of them being a nine-yard touchdown. It's 28-6, and it's not looking good. It's ugly from there. It's ugly from there. Yeah, Miami, they come back out. Again, the first play, I don't know why, but they get a nice game on the very first play.
12:32And then after that, Baltimore stood up, basically three and out they end up well except for the first first down they end up punting the ball and Baltimore get the rock back you let Derrick Henry peel one off for what about 35-40 yeah that's when they started just giving it to him
12:50James Harrison:he was 35-40 for sure but they still stiffened up like Miami's defense still stiffened up you know they made them they forced them to punt you know so I believe Miami gets the ball back into that third quarter they had that had like a 28, 30-yard gain on that one. And then they get the completion by the running back that got reversed. That's what it was. He catched the ball for 22. They reviewed it, said it wasn't a catch. They end up going, I think, a couple downs of fourth downs. They go for a fourth and one, a fourth and 11. Miami actually converts, which was like, that was wild. Like, and then they fumbled a rock, dude.
13:41Baltimore recovers the thing, dude. And I think it's just over, what, 10, 11 minutes left in the fourth quarter. You're down, you know, 20, 28-6. You know, and from there, the defense, Miami's defense, they go out. They hold up. But, I mean, I'm really thinking it's too late. And then Tua lets me know that it's too late because he goes immediately, I think, on the second play, second down, and throws a pick. Yeah. And from there, once Baltimore gets the ball back, they just six minutes and some change, just hold the ball, run the clock out. Uh-huh. Like. Ball game. Ball game, dude. Like, you don't want to know what happened?
14:24Like, what happened, Lamar Jackson happened. Yes. That's what happened. Lamar Jackson happened. Yeah, yeah. Lamar went, what, 18 to 23, 200, four yard. Four tutties. Four tutties. No kicks. No question. And then the defense stood up, too.
14:43James Harrison:Yes. Baltimore Ravens defense, finally. Second half, dude, was crazy. Like, Baltimore just came out second half. They went back-to-back tutties. Then the defense started playing more like the defense that we used to seeing from Baltimore. Even if it was. The first half, bro, like they gave up 225, and the game only ended with Miami having, I think, 330, 332. You're talking about two quarters, they barely gave up just over 100 yards and some change? Yep. And even when we said, too, the bimba don't break, like even when they did make plays, like A-Chan did get off. Tua was hitting a lot of those bang posts, like for those big plays to waddle, 24-yard games, 17, 18-yard games, but they weren't getting any points.
15:25James Harrison:When they got down to nitty-gritty in the red zone, either Miami messed it up or the Ravens did something where they got to stop and got them off the field. They covered it better. They covered it better in the second half. They put more pressure on Tua. I think that was the big difference. But Miami, you can't go 0-3 in the red zone, brother. No. you can't like just have missed opportunities like that you know you're able to gain a whole bunch of yards but it don't matter if you can't put no points on the board and then you know penalties you know well with the one that wasn't a penalty well yeah that shouldn't have been a penalty like I said that's a you know that's a big momentum you know turn no for sure and like I said, this was the first time that I've seen McDaniels show any kind of flair, anger of any sort.
16:21McDaniels of any sort. Like, yo, they got a lot of jobs on the line over there. What'd you think?
16:27James Harrison:No, for sure. Them dudes definitely, they're fighting for their lives. And I'd really like to see at least McDaniels showing that he cares, you know what I'm saying? Being genuine. And that's the time that a coach is supposed to spaz. You know what I'm saying? Pre-snap penalties, those are on us. Those are just straight discipline. You just didn't hear what was going on and we're trying to make these plays it's four for one we're going for it we need you to stay on side so uh i was glad to see that that coach had some coach showing some passion some emotion that he was trying to like that that that it meant something to him brother breaking news from out of chef right now right now right now espn sources miami dolphins and general manager chris what's that name greer met this morning and mutually agreed to part ways Greer has been with the Miami Dolphins since 2000 and has served as their general manager since 2016.
17:19Well, that's why everybody was a little hot under the collar. It looks like we about to go ahead and clean out everything over there. Yep. That's what it's looking like to me. Well, that's what it is. It ain't even another look.
17:36James Harrison:It's happening in real time, Debo. No question. For real, real time. Like, yeah, as we speak, brother. Dude, hold on. Here come another one, man. No. Dolphins senior personnel executive, Champ Kelly now will head the Dolphins' decision leading up to and past Tuesday's NFL trade deadline per sources. Kelly is the new interim GM. They about to make some moves, they saying. I guess that's what it sounds like. Hey, that's why they was all going boo-coo on that sideline, baby. We got to win. That's why they were going boo-coo. Hey, we got to win or everybody going? We all going. We all out of here.
18:22Yep. Hey, man, speaking of winning, man, let's head over here to Cleveland. It's the door. Come on. What are we talking about? Hey, man, they said he let out something a little cryptic. He said, I got to get ready, big ready. What you think that means, Joe?
18:36James Harrison:See, so it's bye week, and he's not staying. and he's staying in Cleveland. So I think it's not, it's just, he got to get ready, big ready. He's the second string quarterback. He's making sure that he's getting his back right. He's locked in. He wants to get all the film study, all of the time in there that he can get because if and, not if, but when, but Dylan Gabriel is still a starting quarterback. He knows that, but it's not looking too good. And he knows from the outside in, even if his head coach doesn't want him in, if Dylan keeps, he doesn't have too much longer. He got this bye week coming off of this.
19:08James Harrison:he's probably going to get another two. He's getting two weeks to get good film, good practice. That's it. And if you don't ball out, Shador knows, like, you're leashed from the coach. He can't save you much longer. He can't save you too much longer. Then it's going to be my time to get out there. And I love the way he's just locked in. He's not going nowhere for the bye week. He's trying to show the coaches. He knows that his time is coming up, and he's not trying to do anything to interfere with the process. So I'm not seeing it being any bad way. He's saying he's just got to stay big ready.
19:36James Harrison:I 100 % agree with you. He's not saying that they done told him something in the background that he's going to be this. No, he's like, yo, I can see the writing on the wall like everybody else can see. Like, why would I do anything that would give them or him, Stavansky, the opportunity to say, well, you didn't come here for this. No, no, no. Now you've got the Eagles showing interest in Myles Garrett. Like, Joe, would that be a smart move for them to trade Myles Garrett? No. And especially to the Eagles, because end of the day, the Eagles, those first round picks that they talk about giving us, they're going to be within the end of the first round where you're not going to get a Myles Garrett.
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20:19James Harrison:And at the end of the day, when you do have Myles, four years, 160, and he's giving you everything he's got to give you. He's not just knowing that he wants to win, but he's still performing at a high level every week. Five sacks last week. You're going to get Myles Garrett's leadership. You're going to get his production. He's going to work like he's broke. We see contracts coming out now where, you know, Michael Parsons making$46 million a year. We got other defensive ends making$45 million a year. It's not like that. That$40 million a year is market. You're getting a steal. It's market value now.
20:48You set the standard. Now that's what it is.
20:50James Harrison:You're getting a steal for what you got, Miles. So it's not going down. It's only going up. So for us to be able to keep him at that number for the next three years and be able to have him, we can build around that. We're not going to get another Miles with the 28th pick in the first round of the next three drafts coming up. I don't think so. So just keep a mouse there at this price point. And you got to figure some other ways to go build the team and roster. Because if you want to get a nice team, you don't get rid of your best player. I don't think it's a smart move for Cleveland to do that.
21:21But it is Cleveland. So I want to say this to you guys. Go ahead. Do not give them Miles Garrett. OK, if you do, I'm going to start a petition against you to try and get every last one of you guys fired. I don't give a damn if they give you 10 first round picks because you ain't go get nothing for those first round picks for the next five, six, seven, eight years anyway, because you're going to put something over there in Philly that can't nobody do nothing with on a consistent basis. okay like do not do that and yes this is selfish this is very selfish of me because I do not want you to do anything although it would help us in division it ain't gonna help us in the long run like don't do it I don't give a damn what you get don't do it but it's Cleveland so they might do it
22:26James Harrison:I hope they don't do it. I don't think they're going to do it. But that's what good teams do. They're always trying to get better. Like the Eagles, all I'm saying is this just more like kudos to you. Like I understand. You know like what kind of player he is. If he's flustered trying to get out of there, I would do the same thing they're doing. Like just ask. Go knock on the door. Like see what's up over there. Listen, you can't even knock on my door. I got something called no trespassing. If you step, I'm treating you like Texas. You step on my land. you will be shot. Don't come over here talking no Miles Garrett, nothing like that, dude.
23:03Like, you got your money. Look, Detroit just gave Hutchinson, what, four-year,$80 million? Yes. What are you talking about? That's money, money. That's what you're getting at that end, dude. They gave you four years. They're doing the right thing. They're getting these nice, short contracts. You know what I'm saying? They're making sure that I'm giving you that money right there in your prime. You know what I'm saying? like so I can I can get the most out of it yes I mean you may end up you know when the time come if the coach is is smart or or whatever that may be or depending on how he moves you may end up having to lose that guy a year or two before you know he's he's he's done being able to give you what you need like look at Tom Brady like it was a couple years before he go to you know he go over there to Tampa and he went another one but I think that was a move they were trying to make before the time, you know, got to a point to where they thought they wouldn't be able to, you know, get anything for him.
23:57I don't know. So, and you know what, though? You know what? It's something else that I like in Detroit. The old coordinator, what's his name? John Morton said he's failed the receiver Williams, you know? And I like it. This is the reason I like it, dude. Very few coaches will admit when they haven't done something supremely, or not even supremely, they haven't done something to the best of their abilities. A player that is still currently with them. Some people can look back on it and say, oh yeah, I could have did da-da-da-da. But being there and actually having a coach that's willing to do that, that's unreal.
24:46James Harrison:That's huge. That's huge. For a player, like to for him to stand up for you. You know what I'm saying? And especially to the media. For him, his numbers not being what they are. And it's not to his fault. Like an A.J. Brown type, like knowing that his receivers, like his numbers aren't what they are, but you got your coaches coming out there speaking on your behalf saying, man, I got to do a better job of getting this ball. It's not on him at all. You know what I'm saying? That's someone to plays. Like there's no reason why we can't get the ball to James Williams. So having a coach like that, make you feel good for sure.
25:18And then something else, dude, that Detroit does, I won't even say it's Detroit. I'll say it's Dan Campbell. I think he does the right thing by putting people in the right position. And when I say that, I say hiring players that are actually players that played that position. When you look at their whole roster, dude, like coaches, you're hiring coaches that played the game, that played the position that they're going to coach. Scotty Montgomery is the wide receiver's coach. He was a wide receiver. Deshae Townsend, my dude, he's the DB coach. He was a DB. You got Farley, O-line. You have Shepard.
25:58He's the DC. He was a linebacker. Hell, Mark Brunel, dude, is the quarterback coach, a quarterback. Like, even, you know, go to the running back coach choice. He was a running back. Like, they do that, and you can keep going and going and going. I mean, even with their, I believe, offensive and defensive assistants, dude, Brad Gorkowski is one of the offense assistants. And you got Caleb Collins. He's one of the defensive assistants, dude. Like, you do this. This is what a lot of people don't understand is you get automatic buy-in. You know why you got automatic buy-in for me is that Coach Butts was my linebacker coach.
26:38Coach Butts played 10 years in the league. He played the position I'm playing. and when you get that the buy-in is real because you played the position you went through what i'm going through you understand the nuances of it and the things that you have to do that are as they say quote not in my range of my position you know what i'm saying like when i'm saying i don't tackle i'll cut no i know that's part of what you have to do so it doesn't matter because now i know he's done what I've done. He can tell me the things, you know what I'm saying? That I can, I can, I can, I can get from him and, and the nuggets and know that, you know what?
27:18He's not just feeding this to me because he said, that's, this is what I got to do. No, for sure. You build coaches like that and you get coaches like that. Yes. Give me, you're going to lose some of those guys. Like that's, that's just, that's just what it happens. You know what I'm saying? And I understand, I understand it very well. And that's why Dan Campbell has, such a fruitful coaching tree, dude, because that's part of his responsibility. Bring guys in and make more. You know, hell, go to the Bible, bro. Just as the people who have accepted their Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, dude, is supposed to spread the good news and bring more people.
28:01Jesus himself said, dude, what was it? Matthew 28, 19 through 20. Go, therefore, make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. Dude, you got to be able and ready to make disciples. And he's doing that, dude. His tree. Seven years in, he already got a culture tree. that is, what, three, four head coach or something like that? Not to mention guys that have left and moved up from positional coach to coordinators. Like, that is what has to be done. That's just how it's done, dude.
28:50James Harrison:Nope, for sure. And that's when you said the coaching tree still is playing the coach at home on Sunday. Oh, yeah, dude. What you thinking? What I'm thinking. What you thinking, T-Bo? I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm thinking we in hella trouble. That's what I'm thinking. Because, like I said, we have played trash. We are trash. We're, what, 30th ranked defense? We're trash, bro. Right now. And we're going to go up against somebody, like you said, been toting that rock like crazy, running. it do it upsets me to even think about it i don't want to i'm just hoping i'm hoping we just don't get embarrassed bro see i believe this is the um the 20th reunion for the 2005 super bowl okay this is when everybody coming back everybody coming back this is everybody coming back Bro, please.
30:01Hey, the one that we won in Detroit, up there in Detroit where your boy, he's building a legacy over there, dude. He's building a legacy over there. Yeah.
30:16I'm not optimistic about this game. I'll be 100 % honest with you. I'm not. I don't see how we I don't see how we can win given how we've played
30:29James Harrison:the whole season I'm gonna be there watching it though I feel like you're being you're speaking you're speaking realistically right now I think my heart will not let me say something foolish right now like we're gonna go and win and dog walk and da da no no I'm just hoping we don't get embarrassed. That's a damn shame. Yeah. As a stealer, as a organization, as a person that's played there for 14, 15 years, I'm hoping that we don't get embarrassed when it used to be, hey, I'm waiting for us to go and get one of those AFC championship hats. Mm-hmm. Getting to the playoffs and be sitting there ready to play at home in the AFC championship game.
31:21Yeah, it's tough. I'm hoping we don't get embarrassed and we actually, I don't even know.
31:27James Harrison:You know why you say that, Debo? You know why I'm thinking about why you feel like this too? Because the embarrassing part is it's not like we can't, we're not worried about us being able to kind of figure a way to score points. We know we got A-Rod. We know offense is getting right. We're getting other pieces. But it's just that we have all the players on defense and we're still right now ranked the worst. So just statistically speaking, like knowing like if we go out there and they're bringing in Jonathan Taylor, they're bringing in, they're averaging 33.8 points a game right now. You know what I'm saying?
32:00James Harrison:And that's the number one scoring offense in the league. And they're coming in to the crib. So we're - And we're giving 30-something up to Cincinnati. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. That's your fault, Cleveland. Because you gave him Joe. You probably going to get an eagle. See, don't issue going over there. Don't worry. That's not here nor there. I was doing good, man. That's not here nor there. You was doing real good, D-Bo. I'm drinking tea, too. You see y 'all getting my voice going again. So, but with me, the hope that I have and the reason why I do have hope is because the name's on the back of their jerseys.
32:37James Harrison:I do believe that the people that we do have on the team are good enough to get the job done. That's not the question. They just need to do it themselves. You made me call you son. You got to call me son. Potential and what you were don't add up to shit if you don't go out there and play. I know. I feel you. I feel you. But I believe that they can do it so I hope that now... My son James Harrison out there, same name, all that on the back of the jersey, but you're not going to get the results that you got from me. No, I'm saying they got to go do it for themselves. We saying the same thing, D-Bo.
33:12James Harrison:I'm just trying to figure out a way that they're going to be able to do it. Like, they know. Joe, you tell me how they're going to be able to do it. You tell me. You give me a realistic approach how they're going to be able to do it. Knowing how they done played all year. All right.
33:28James Harrison:Literally, everybody do their 111th. Everybody do their job. It's not too hard. I'm thinking that people are doing, trying to do other people's stuff. Like, just win your one-on-one. If you can't win your one-on-one. Are they trying to do other people's stuff? Or are they just being told different things? Is A being A from Coach B and C? Or is it, like, are we, like, is it, are you being told different things? Because, like, I don't know. I can't tell if it's, like you said, the defense or it's the play. When I see certain stuff like this. I know when you get blew off the ball and you're back there with the linebacker.
34:02That's on them. That's a problem.
34:03James Harrison:Yes. And then also, when you see people, you know, Debo, when you run the play and you freeze it and you see somebody, man, running scot-free, like you can kind of see, I just don't need to see eye errors, eye disciplines, people running, don't get beat to the back. Well, sometimes you only got 10 on the field too, so. See, okay, see, that's not acceptable. That's junior varsity, as Coach T would say. That's JV. We can't have JV things going on out there. Like how you don't call a timeout? That's JV. That's JV. That's JV. even if the player don't see it, like, I mean, even the coach don't see it, the player's sitting right there.
34:41You should know who's standing next to you, who's sitting next to you.
34:44James Harrison:Know you down one, huh? No question. You supposed to be running the combo, yeah. Do the routine things routinely, Debo. That's what they got to do. Do the routine things routinely, man. I ain't gonna even lie to you, man. That's a lot of lip service right now, man. It's the standard. It's the standard. The standard is the standard. is... What's the standard? 500? Been won a playoff game since 2016, man! Yeah, man. Yeah, man. I was playing then! I feel you. I've been done for what? 7-8 years? Yeah, man. I feel you. What's the standard now? Because we done lost. it ain't the same one that I knew.
35:37James Harrison:Yeah. I know for sure. I'm telling the D I'm this. There's nothing really to talk. There's nothing really to say. You know, it's bad. They got to do better. They have to play better. And there's more we keep talking about it. The more mad you going to get. Bruh. I want to. Because I don't want you to be mad. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't sit here and lie to myself. I can't. No, for sure. that's what but you know I need your honesty I need you to be honest dude as bad as I want them to win I wouldn't I wouldn't bet a dollar on it no I mean I could use that dollar for some penny candy or something I could get at least whatever I'd give me 100 pieces of candy you've been watching the games D-Bow you could tell like if you're being honest with yourself you could be like does Indianapolis Colts have they been playing better than the Steelers bro how many times they done punted all year.
36:34Is it even 10?
36:35James Harrison:I don't know if they have a punter on the roster. Like, yeah. We gonna see. Oh my God. Jonathan Taylor leads the league in rushing yards and touchdowns. We gonna see. But there still is no that.
36:58It's depressing, man. Listen. We're going to move on, bro. Speaking of some depressing news. Oh, no. Dude, Jaguars placed Travis Hunter on the IR due to a knee injury. Hunter now will miss a minimum of four games. I guess they placed him on injury reserve to come back. Yo, how hard do you think that's going to hit them? What's their next four games?
37:29James Harrison:I'm just sad for Travis Hunter. super sad how did this happen you know how it happened I do not have no clue how it happened brother dang he got four games too crazy full games man I hope they just don't rush it back don't rush him back he gets 100 % he's way way way too young to be trying to force himself to rush back full recovery yeah you gonna be good 100 % 100 % recovery make sure you come back because you know So he'll be having you adjusting on that ball a little bit when he throw it. You know what I'm saying? So we don't want to do nothing. I guess he was injured in practice on yesterday, brother.
38:11So this is fresh. Yes, this is fresh. Dang.
38:14James Harrison:I knew I didn't get nothing. They probably got him twisting and turning for balls in practice. Oh, for sure. He out there young, but going hard, trying to do both. Love him. But, yeah, I think as long as they just take their time with him, Don't rush him back. He got way, way years of long career. Oh, yeah. He got a long career as long as he can stay healthy, brother. As long as he can stay healthy. Damn. That hurts, don't it? Hey, listen, man. Jerry Jones, he said he's shifting. He's shifting his priorities right now to something more lucrative. Jerry said there's$100 billion present value with natural gas out there.
38:55that's why i'm talking to you on the telephone rather than to rather than trying to fix our defense with the dallas cowboys listen people oh my gosh hey listen listen i'm trying to tell y 'all jerry jerry has been letting y 'all know from day one okay even when listen even when he got the cowboys it was an investment opportunity for him to make to make money he's letting you know that the only thing I care about is making money. As long as I'm making money and everything is going fine, you Cowboy fans out there think he care about this team? He don't care about this team. He care about making that money.
39:37And right now, Jerry said, hey, I got 13 billion over here sitting here. And I got them boys. And I got all the Cowboy fans saying, we going back. We about to win it this year. And y 'all keep buying the tickets and spending the money. Jerry said, I got that money coming. But you know what I got right now? I got an opportunity for a more lucrative offer. Team might be worth$12,$13 billion, but I got a chance to get$100 billion. Hey, sit back. We don't care about this right now. Listen, I'm a businessman first, okay? And he got y 'all so entangled as Cowboy fans, y 'all think he really cares. No, he's the GM and does everything because he wants to be in control and make sure he can get as much money as he can.
40:15Listen, you could go to the Cowboys practice and watch them practice. You could pay to get in there to watch them practice, dude. Like, how many teams do that? I do not know who does that. Because if I was, I'm not, but if I was in that position and I was playing the Cowboys, I might just send somebody that had no representation with my football team over there to go and sit and watch practice so I can know what to tell my players y 'all go do when we play y 'all.
40:43James Harrison:Joe, what do you think, Joe? I think you're on the money with, it's all about the money. Jerry Jones is a smart businessman. He bought his team to make money for$150 million, whatever it is. Now they're worth$13 billion. So end of the day, he does want to have a good product on the field. Like, don't get me wrong, he wants, but the main thing is the main thing. And that's making money continuously, hand over fist. Like Debo said, having people come to practice, the jerseys, the stadium, the billion-dollar playpen. He's making so much money. And then his main thing that he's going to show you is about making money because if there's a bigger money investment, we're going to keep this thing right here.
41:25James Harrison:You're still making me good money. You know what I'm saying? But I'm about to go make this other$100 billion over here. That's what it's about. This is what it's about. Put this on pause for a second. I'm going to make this$100. But y 'all still want to be here. This chart changed. Hey, do not take my pocket money. No, do not. Do not take my pocket money. that's pocket money to him. Deebo, this is the thing too. He owns the team. Yes. So that's the thing people are mixed up about. This is my entertainment source where all you foolish cowboy fans run over and give me all your money, but I don't even really care about it because I'm making billions over here.
42:00I had to go ahead and jump on this opportunity real hard because it's way more billions and I had to let y 'all know that, hey, I'm Jerry Jones. I bought this for$150 million and I made it into$13 billion and now I got an opportunity to go and get$100 billion? Hey, listen. I'm going to get that.
42:15James Harrison:I'm going to get that. That's why I'm talking to you on the phone right now. I ain't worried about that defense. Them Cowboys fans go always stay there. We them boys. It's been 30 years. We ain't did nothing. But hey, we them boys every year. It's our year. Every year, that year. You keep dropping that money and buying them jerseys and doing all that. Debo, I will tell you this. If somebody were to buy and own an investment and they own something and they're the full owner and everybody that works for them, they pay these people. They write the checks. Jerry Jones, in the NFL, there's not dudes that really act like that, like Robert Kraft said.
42:45James Harrison:They're more in the background. They want to know what's going on. But end of the day, if you own a team or that's your own, you could do whatever you want to do. You're writing the checks. You're cutting the checks to everybody. So if you're letting everybody know it's not a good way, but Jerry's letting people know he can do what he wants to do. Sell the team. Why would I sell the team? I'm up. I bought 150. Why would he sell the team? He automatically knows that he has Cowboys fans going back into the day before their eyes opened. Because their parents have indoctrinated them into being a Cowboys fan.
43:22And they have never seen a championship game of any sort. But you know what we're going to do? We're going to look at Troy Smith.
43:32James Harrison:We're going to look at Emmitt Smith. Emmitt Smith. Michael Irvin. Michael Irvin. Troy Aikman. Troy Aikman. When Dion was there. We them boys. We them boys. I told you we was them boys. Huh? How you them boys? Dak even got a problem with this. Like, come on. Yeah. Them boys, like real for real, it's like them boys. He like, oh yeah, them boys over there, they play for me. They make me some money, but here go these men. They about to get me that guap. They going to give me that guap. It's a business for Jerry, period. And as long as he making paper, he's going to continue to treat it as what it is to him.
44:12It's nothing but a business. Like, you could come. Like, how do you come in there and be behind the glass and be able to watch somebody practice every day? That's usually like a, you know, that's usually like a big opportunity for like somebody that, you know. It's like a little bit of a wish and all that other stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like, training camp don't matter. You're just putting in the basics. Everybody knows what your basics is. Well, that's what I'm saying. season and sit there and watch what you about to do before you go play blase skippy nah you can't do that you got to close that down like you can't you can't have that and like you said in season you get like you know you get to make a wish or something like you know once the other week or something like that that's a big opportunity but they ain't coming there trying to you not selling it he's selling everything dude they selling the gloves the shoes everything you know what i'm saying like they selling everything don't don't leave nothing in your locker i promise you it's be in the team shop before the end of the night.
45:08Okay? Yeah, I feel that. Like, we them boys. All you Cowboys fans, he like, yeah.
45:18James Harrison:All them suckers. I'm going to keep y 'all over here because y 'all think I care about this. I really don't. I really don't. I care about making money. The one thing I would say, though, Debo, is at least he's not, it's not like they just been, they have good, they have formidable teams. Like, it's not like he's not just giving them, like, no roster. They have been having some skills. You're talking about like Cleveland? Like giving them nothing but one or two players here and there? No, no, no, no. I mean, I think when they had the best time, I think the best time was when they had Dak, I mean, not Dak, but Dez Bryant on that catch.
45:58James Harrison:I think that was the one time they had an actual shot. so like in the last 30 years it's one but one yeah you said one shot in the last 30 years I say one in the last 30 how you gonna call yourself them boys hold up America's team well I don't know if that's the reputation we want as America's team you think they should switch America's team no they shouldn't switch America's team they not America's team that was a title that was given to them I believe at one point in time it was a title they was trying to give to old man old man Rooney he told them no. No, you told them no. No, I heard that.
46:35James Harrison:You were given a title. You didn't earn it. We them boys, yeah, you was them boys in 90-something. You just something. They living off the old, old days. They had their time. Like, don't, yeah, don't, don't. We can't, we can't, we can't, we can't a lot. Well, it ain't about We can't allow it. The fans, they believe it so much. You know how you get ingrained to something that you just – you believe in it so much no matter what is hitting you in your face. You know what I'm saying? Like you still believe the lie. You know what I'm saying? Like they like Melo. You die with the lie, son. They going to die with the lie.
47:25You going to have people that going to live their whole life as a – sorry, I almost said Cleveland. But yeah, you're going to have that too. But you're going to have fans that live their whole life as a Dallas Cowboy fan slash Cleveland Brown fan and never see anything come to fruition from the time they are born until the time they leave this earth.
47:43James Harrison:See, so what was that? It was like Tony Romo. It was Tony Romo. And then that was that. So that's been the last couple of years. The last 15. Listen, hey. Hey, Halloween is here. It is. What's the scariest thing that you think could happen today on Halloween? You want me to tell you what mine is? Yeah, you tell me first, Deebo. The dumbass Browns and letting Miles Garrett go to Philly. That would be the scariest thing that could happen today. don't do it I don't even know why I'm telling them they're not going to do that they're not going to do that they tell them they give them 10 first round picks they go do it 10 first round picks Miles Garrett first thing he on the first thing smoking that they say they say 10 he on the first thing smoking listen while I want to see you succeed Miles because I want to see all players succeed yes I want to see you succeed with Cleveland while you don't win no games that will affect the Pittsburgh Steelers.
49:00That's the selfish part of me.
49:05James Harrison:I want the best of Myles Garrett, man, regardless. He's a baller. He's a good dude. I don't think the Browns are going to let him go. That would be ridiculous, especially for three first-round picks. We're not going to get another Myles Garrett in the draft. He's the defensive cornerstone. Him, Denzel, those pieces don't need to go. Hardest thing to find, an edge rusher. You got one. He's been there. You know what it is. And we got Denzel as a corner. So, like, those are my guys that we just don't need to get rid of. We know what we need on the offensive side. We need to get a quarterback, and we need to get another receiver.
49:40James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? And always line never – offensive line never hurts. So, with those spots, just getting rid of Miles in no place makes any sense to me because Miles is going to play at a high level no matter where he's at because he's a baller. That's just what he does. He wants to perform at a high level because he just – I think he's – when you're great players like you, D, it don't matter. When you're on the football field, you're going to do good because that's just what you do. That's just what we do when we're on the field. So I would want him to stay there and ball out. Yo, man, somebody asked AI to evaluate the Browns' historical struggle in the NFL.
50:16Dude, even Google couldn't make sense of it. No. Dude, in confidence of the organization is one of the things. The Browns' post-1999 record is considered a significant outliner in the modern professional sports. The combination of losing seasons, a minimum number of winning records, and multiple historical low points make the continuous struggles and almost... Statistically impossible outcome in a league structured for parity. The Browns' struggles are frequently cited as a case study on organizational dysfunction. Oh, Lord. That managed to defy the mathematical and structural forces of the modern NFL.
51:15James Harrison:God. Hold up. Hold up, Dan. Hey, I can't see you, Joe. Put your hood up, baby. Hold up, man. What you doing? I didn't do this. That's Google AI didn't do this. I didn't do this, bro. I did not do this. Google AI to chill out, man. Hey, that has nothing to do with me, Joe. Listen, what's your kids? Your kids trick-or-treating, Joe? Let's go to something, man. Your kids trick-or-treating. What they going at? My young boys, my boy, I got my oldest son, Joey. He's going as a police officer. And then I got my youngest son, Jet. He's going as a ninja. Okay. Okay. Yes. My son's birthday today, he would wear costumes like every day.
52:00I'm talking as soon as he got home from school, he'd wear the costume. This dude had like, I think it was like eight or nine different Iron Man costumes. Yeah. Iron Man, soldier this, woo-woo-woo this, all this other stuff, dude. like literally couldn't get this dude out of a costume. And like we was trying to, well, we tried it too late, but we wanted to make him believe that everybody dressed up because it was his birthday. But we started too late.
52:28James Harrison:He didn't believe it. He wasn't going for that. No, he wasn't going. What he got going today for his birthday? Yo, I ain't going to lie to you. I'm a little upset. A little upset. He got something going without you. He got something going without me. he go tell me his mom asked him what he want to do whatever so I'm like well you find out what Henry want to do I'm thinking he want to go eat he want to go hit you know we got we got we got Napa Prime right here and off the hook off the hook bro that was my spot when I was in Napa Prime Napa Prime is even better it's the steak spot Napa Prime I've been in Napa Prime too up the hill across the street from the dish the other one at the seafood spot, right?
53:11Yeah, yeah. And he go talk about something. He want to go to his friend's house and sit around a fire or something. And, you know, he'll catch up. He'll catch up. I want to do something with you. I'm going to holl at you, Pop.
53:25James Harrison:I'm going to go catch up. I'm going to go get to the fire and then I'm going to hit you up, Pop. You dirty, rotten scoundrel. You going to do that to me? After all I did for you? You going to do that to me? Yeah. He just, he done. On your 16th birthday? I know you a boy, but like, you go do that to me? Dang, Deebo. It be your own blood. Hey, listen, I'm going to give you something, dude. I'm going to give you something. So, I don't know if your son stopped giving you a kiss yet, but it's going to hurt your heart when they do. Oh, man. It's going to tear you apart, bro. So, I'm sitting there, and dude, you know, he gives his mom a kiss, you know.
54:08You know, I'll get me a kiss. and I don't know when it was, but James was, I think he was around like maybe four or five, something like that.
54:22And I see him, you know, they talking whatever, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Okay, mom, whatever, do-do-do. You know, he get the kiss, okay? Like, all right, man, what's up, man? And I go to get the kiss, and you know this nigga turned his cheek on me. yeah
54:39James Harrison:hold up what's going on coach hold up over here listen listen I didn't know that your kid could hurt you without saying a word I had to talk to him about it after he got older I couldn't I couldn't let it he didn't understand it yeah but I had to talk to him I got over it of course but he really hurt you he hurt your feelings he hurt my feelings I can't get no kiss no no dad I can't. Nah, Pac, you're going to turn your cheek to me? Oh, yeah. You're going to still give her the lips? Mm-hmm. Young boy on the cheek. Man. My old man. And now, I can't even get a cheek kiss. No, for sure. Now you, yeah, now you trying.
55:23James Harrison:Yeah, you better come over here and just give me a good old hug. You better be happy on giving me a hug. Listen. All this, all this, all this closely. Wait, wait to that. Wait to that. and so also, something else is a good thing is that y 'all can't lose. The Browns can't lose this week. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You damn right. And all my boys getting their go. Y 'all might mess around and gain a game and not even have to do nothing. That's what I'm saying. That's the goal. That's the goal. We need the Steelers. You know what I'm saying? You need the Steelers. What? Who? What you mean? Who is we?
56:08James Harrison:Then you go with that bullshit, Joe. Me and you is the Steelers. We need the Steelers to win this week. Oh, I was about to say something goofy. No, no, no, no. We need the Steelers to win this week, people. I don't know. I be crashing out sometimes. No, no, no. You know what? I'm down bad because I already know we're about to go out here and lose. I'm depressed. That's what I'm saying. I just don't want to get embarrassed. I just don't want to get embarrassed. Don't embarrass us, please. No, look, look, it'd be, yes. Let's just, this game, let's just, good vibes, D-Bo. We know what we got to do.
56:43James Harrison:We know what they got to do. Good vibes. The Browns already won this week. So, you're actually right. Hey, they might lose, though. They might go and give away everything they got. Mm-mm. They stupid enough to. Nope, nope, nope. He's not, man, they ain't going to do that. They're not interested in getting rid of them. I hope they do. I just want something bad to happen. Only reason, they get rid of Miles for Patty Mahomes. Okay? Give us Pat, and we'll give you Miles. Okay? Hell no. All right, then. Well, he going to sit there. That's what I'm saying. Pat ain't going to let that happen. He'll retire before he let him put him to the Browns.
57:22James Harrison:Bro, I know Pat not going nowhere. Pat not going nowhere. That's what I'm saying. If I'm the Browns, I'm acting for something outrageous. Give me Lamar. If you want Mahomes. Listen. Listen. Listen, Lamar will retire before he let you. There's a lot of quarterbacks that you're saying right now that will retire before you let them get. Nope. They got to have some. No. I will retire on you before I let you trade me to the Cleveland Browns. I played for every team in the North. I didn't play for the Browns, though. Shut up. I played for the Browns, Debo. Shut up. I'm just saying. Why are you being so disrespectful?
57:57James Harrison:I was making a statement about who I didn't play for. That's it, Joe. You know why you're trying to make a statement? I'm not making a statement, Joe. I'm just telling the truth. I don't know how much better the Bengals organization is than the... 2013, we took the AFC North. Check it out. Where I go, AFC North go. Man, all right. I just wanted to say that. Every dog finds the wrong clock twice a day. I'm just saying, man. Listen, man, listen. We want to thank you guys, man. We got to get out of here because Joe is feeling some kind of way. when I start talking about the clowns, I mean, the Browns and stuff like that.
58:36Like I just said, I didn't play for them. Listen, we want to thank you guys for joining us for this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. We will be back at it on Monday and I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I'm praying that I have good news. Even if we lose, I just don't, I just make it close. Don't let, please.
59:01James Harrison:I'm going to start spinning again, Joe. No, let's go. Come on, Steelers defense. Stand up. Give Debo something to be happy about. Have us come in here with a good cigar on. Have me come in here with a good cigar on. Good cigar. With my towels on. Come on. All that. I might even light it up this time. Come on, Debo. I mean, I might. Depending on it, I might. I don't know. So look here. Give me some so I can put my stuff on, so I can be back in my flow. all the gold, you know. Mm-hmm. Yes. Shine. Shine. So we can shine, Joe. Because you ain't got nothing else to look forward to other than when the downfall come and they trade miles.
59:43So we can shine, Joe. Nope.
59:44James Harrison:Browns already won this week. Here we go, Steelers. Let's go put our foot down. Step on these boys' necks. At least stand your ground, please. Stand up. Stand up. Stand up. Back here on Monday. We out. We out.
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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Monday Night Football where Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens defeated Tua Tagovailoa and the Miami Dolphins. Later, discuss the rumors surround the Philadelphia Eagles interest in trading for Myles Garrett, Cleveland Browns QB Shedeur Sanders cryptic comments, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones attention being pulled away from team, and breakdown the biggest matchups heading into Week 9 of the 2025 NFL season!
00:00 - Intro
03:30 - Ravens beat Dolphins
21:00 - Shedeur sends cryptic message
22:27 - Good idea to trade Myles Garrett?
31:20 - Steelers vs Colts preview
39:25 - Travis Hunter placed on IR
41:00 - Jerry Jones not focused on Cowboys
50:00 - Deebo's Halloween fears
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