Deebo & Joe - TNF REACTION: Lions COOK Cowboys + Trouble in Pittsburgh: Mike Tomlin on hot seat?

5 Dec 2025 · 58 min · 18 chapters

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In short

Debo and Joe react to the Lions vs. Cowboys game (Detroit wins 44-30) and then shift to Steelers/Ravens matchup talk, including Mike Tomlin “hot seat” chatter and a film-session controversy involving Pat Fryer-Muth and Aaron Rodgers.

Guest backgrounds

No guests are interviewed in this transcript. Hosts are James “Debo” Harrison and Joe Hayden.

Key claims

  • Lions’ offense mixed play-action, two-back production (Gibbs and Montgomery), and big receiver routes (St. Brown and Jameson Williams) to repeatedly win matchups.
  • Cowboys’ issues included special teams problems, three turnovers, red-zone failures (only 1 of 3), and offensive line protection breakdown leading to multiple sacks.
  • Defensive notes: Dallas struggled in man-to-man; Detroit’s route recognition and pressure (Muhammad/Hutchinson mentioned) were decisive.
  • Steelers segment: they must stop Derrick Henry and contain Lamar Jackson’s run game; offense must avoid turnovers and control time of possession.

Notable examples

  • Gibbs’ back-to-back big plays (spin-cycle runs/catches) early.
  • A 57-yard field goal by Detroit.
  • Dak’s interception returned to set up a short touchdown by Jameson Williams.
  • DJ Reed’s late interception to close it out.

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NFL Game Recap: Lions vs. Cowboys

0:45 to 2:01

A detailed discussion on the highlights and plays from the Lions vs. Cowboys game.

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NFL Game Recap: Lions vs. Cowboys

6:23 to 12:00

A detailed discussion on the highlights and plays from the Lions vs. Cowboys game.

“I think Dallas, they faked the fair catch.”

Key Moments and Plays Analysis

12:00 to 14:01

Analyzing crucial plays, player performances, and game-changing moments.

“But if you're selling that face, you're pressing it.”

Game Analysis: Steelers vs. Lions

14:01 to 20:29

An in-depth discussion of the Pittsburgh Steelers' performance against the Detroit Lions, including pivotal plays, player reactions, and game strategies.

“So second to 10, I think they ended up hitting Pickens for nine, which would have put them at a second and one.”

Game Analysis: Steelers vs. Lions

20:31 to 20:41

An in-depth discussion of the Pittsburgh Steelers' performance against the Detroit Lions, including pivotal plays, player reactions, and game strategies.

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Second Half Highlights

22:14 to 28:00

Reviewing key moments and plays in the second half of the game, including scoring plays and defensive strategies.

“He was running like they were in the middle of the field.”

Dallas vs. Detroit Analysis

28:00 to 32:35

A detailed review of the Dallas Cowboys vs. Detroit Lions game, focusing on key plays and player performances.

“Man, Dallas get back out there in the first play.”

Special Teams and Coaching Insights

32:35 to 37:32

Discussion on the impact of special teams and coaching strategies in recent games, including player performances and future implications.

“Dallas special teams was selling big time.”

Mike Tomlin and Steelers Future

37:32 to 42:00

Discussion on Mike Tomlin's coaching prospects and the potential for him to transition to college coaching, particularly at Penn State.

“I think we're going to get to my Steelers.”

Tackling Derrick Henry

42:00 to 43:06

Discussion on the challenges of tackling Derrick Henry and defensive strategies.

“Because this is going to be a lot harder to tackle Derrick Henry coming off like that than it is with Cooks.”
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Tackling Derrick Henry

43:11 to 44:13

Discussion on the challenges of tackling Derrick Henry and defensive strategies.

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Offensive Strategies and Time of Possession

44:51 to 46:39

Conversation about the importance of offensive success and time of possession.

“And again, the offense can't turn the ball over, and we have to have some sort of success on the offensive side.”

Locker Room Tensions: Rodgers and Friar-Muth

46:39 to 49:54

Debating the implications of comments made by Aaron Rodgers and Pat Friar-Muth.

“If that's the case, I'd like us to go out there and win.”

Quarterback Performances: A Comparative Analysis

49:54 to 53:10

Analyzing the performance of quarterbacks including Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers.

“You know, you drop this game, who knows what, you know, the pressure looks like.”

Play Calling and Offensive Issues

53:10 to 54:34

Discussion on play calling and offensive struggles in the NFL.

“when I was watching the game the other day, like when we were watching the Lions and you're watching the, and you're watching the Cowboys, just the playbooks.”

Jerry Judy's Media Response

54:34 to 56:04

Evaluating Jerry Judy's comments on media attention and team dynamics.

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Analyzing Team Performances: Titans vs. Browns

56:04 to 59:50

The hosts share their insights on the upcoming Titans-Browns game and key players to watch.

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Community Support and Gratitude

1:02:20 to 1:03:48

The hosts express gratitude towards their listeners and share a touching message from a fan.

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2:12Welcome back to another episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you doing today, Joe? Brother Debo, I'm doing great, my good brother. My brother in Christ. I had a great, great night watching some football, you know. So, yeah, the game, unbelievable game. Oh, no question. You know, like, this is a high-scoring game, so I know you kind of, you know, made it. I ain't going to lie. It was high-scoring, but I was still able to stick in there because it wasn't like just a straight out blowout.

2:50It was interesting all the way to the end. Yes, yes, yes. For sure. You know, Dallas went on out there and they tried their best, but they just didn't have enough to finish it off. Lions beat them, what was it, 44 to 30? Yes. Yeah, so Detroit get out there and like that whole first series, they was just like play action. You know, the first play, except for the first play, they went on ahead just straight through it to St. Brown. Sean Riggs was good. That was seven. They get to, I think it was like third and three. and Gibbs gives the linebacker this shaky, shaky spin cycle. Yes. Breaks off his ankles, you know, for a hot 19.

3:28And then again, I think it was the next. The next one was the first one was the swing pass to him where he got crazy, spin cycle, everything. And then the very next one, the check down to him, he's behind him. Dookie step, turns around, like just back-to-back plays, getting the ball into his hands, bro. Gibbs went crazy. I think the first one was the check down. I think the second one was the out. Was the swing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, but look, back-to-back, he went to both plays. Yeah, and then they, I think it was second and four, they ended up dropping him for two. It was a loss of two. And then on that third down, they was able to make it to golf.

4:06They ended up settling for a field goal. Yeah, Muhammad, that's when he started it. Muhammad's first sack of the day. Mm-hmm. It was 3-0. Dallas get out there. And then on the second and six, Pickens takes one for a nice little 11-yard game. I think it was the first down they ended up losing five. They did a little throwback. Yeah. That drum was looking a little crazy. He threw the ball behind the line of scrimmage trying to jump past that. Yeah, that was not a good play. Second and 15, though, he is Ferguson for 19 yards. Like, I was thinking they was going to be able to hold up. They didn't.

4:48The next one, they really didn't get too much. I think it was like a run. No, an incompletion on the first one. The second down was just one. And then third down, dude made a nice break on that. He did. He did. But this is one where it was a little bit noisy in there, Debo. Did you see my man George? It's a little noisy in there. He was going for the pick. Both of them, and I saw a little alligator. Came off the joint kind of chilling. but that was the first one. It was definitely noisy. I could see my man Pickens kind of making a little bit of a business decision on that dig. Great defense play.

5:21It was a little noisy in there, but you know what I'm saying? No, I don't think that was the dig. I think that was the out, wasn't it? No, no, no. That was the dig. Okay. That was the dig. All right. Yeah, 57-yard field goal on that one. 57-yard field goal like nothing. Like nothing. That wasn't even the longest. It wasn't even the longest. No, no, no, no, for sure. He just warming up. Yeah, man. and Dallas going ahead and kick it off to Detroit. Man, Dallas special teams was selling all night, dude. They let dude return to, what was it, 40 yards to almost midfield. He was doing it all night. All night, dude.

5:53All night. Like, all night. And the kicker, Aubrey smacked him, though, on that return. I ain't going to lie to you. The kicker went and got him some. Yeah, Dallas defense was able to stand up a little bit. They pressured him into throwing the ball into the ground on the second down. And then the third down, I think St. Brown, he ended up tripping on that one. They almost had a pick. Yeah, that was good defense. Yeah. Good defense. That was good defense. Could have been a pick for sure, but had to punt. Yeah, they ended up punting the ball. I think Dallas, they faked the fair catch. That put them back.

6:31And then they had a holding that pushed them back even further. They had the double penalty. Yes, they had the double penalty. and then they get to third and four from, I think it was like the 10 or 11, and Dak gets sacked for a safety. That's a safety, D-Bone. On review, they overturned it. He said the ball was clearly all the—no. No. No. The ball is clearly—like, as soon as he starts crumbling, I'm like, that's a safety for show. Dude, yes. And before the dude hits him, he actually steps himself back further. Yes, to protect himself, to cradle the ball, which puts his whole body in the end zone.

7:07Dude, the ball was sitting half and half then. He said clearly all the way out. There's no way you can say clearly. Ref needs to get their vision checked. They got to be 20-20. That was 20-20. That was terrible. Yeah, that was bad, man. They ended up putting the ball over to Detroit, and I think they ended up getting the ball close to midfield again. Yeah, 42. Yeah, something like that. first down, a little short thing to give. Second down, it was another seven. That got them the first. And then on the first down, they get that illegal shift where they try to pass to the offensive lineman. Yeah, sometimes they try to do a little bit too cute when everything's working.

7:51It was getting cute right there. It was getting super cute right there. Second and 13, coming that boy St. Brown again. 26 to the Dallas 8, brother. Great play call. He widened the man up. You know what I'm saying? Stack them up. Widen them up. Made some space on the inside. Great, though. Great route. Next play, they do the reverse to Williams. He ends up stepping out at the one. Next play, Gibbs finishes it off. It's 3-10. So, Dallas comes back up out there and first down, Williams give him a nice run. Second down, he ends up can... No, he only got two on second down. So they ended up going to like third and one.

8:33And that completes like that one for the first. I believe the next third down is when CD, he just breaks the tackle. He had taken what was it, 16? Yep. They went four for five. They went four for four on those third downs on this drive. Yeah. Right after that, they converted two more first downs, just basically staying ahead of the change. That's a sex rate thing. They get to the first and 10, I think, on the Dallas, what, no, sorry, on the 15-yard line. Yep. And finally, you know, the defense decides they go stand up a little bit. They get to the third and 10, and they sack him. Yep, Muhammad, second sack of the day.

9:15Yeah, dude. Like, they were pressuring him all night, dude. Mm-hmm. They ended up having to settle for a field goal again. It's 6-10, and Detroit gets back out there, and on the second down, they false start. Yep. The next play, Gibbs gets, I think it was like 13. Yeah, they put that man out at wide out. Yeah. Hey. He was doing work, bro, wide out. He was literally lining up in the slot, saucing people up. They get the incompletion on the third down. They going out. But on that third down, Debo, they thought it was, he thought he had a false start. He thought he had a free play. No question. I think he was in the neutral zone, but yeah, neither here nor there.

10:01I told you, they visually got to get checked. Them boys ain't seeing Twanky Twanky, baby. That was foggy. They ain't seeing Twanky Twanky. That was foggy. The D tackle was in the neutral zone, in my opinion. Yeah, I would have to agree with you. Especially if you're saying just any part, like that's amazing. Yeah, for sure. And then the first play, Dallas get up out there and Dak hit CD. I think it was like 97. Yep, 37-38. And then the next play, he throws a backwards pass. You know they actually gave a sack on that, dude? That was like a sack. They gave a sack on that with a backwards pass. And then I think, what did they lose on that, like 15 or something?

10:45Yeah, I think they all 16 yards. 16, okay. Third and 21, he gets it to Ferguson, and he fumbles to the rock. they punched that ball out. No. Yeah, turnovers hurt. Turnover. Yeah, I think Dallas get it at like, what, the 50, somewhere close around there. Mm-hmm. And then they go to first play, and they get a hold of them. Yep. Then they get a false start. Backed up with a false start. I think it's like second and like 17, second and 19, something like that. And guess who Goff goes to? Jameis Williams and this is one of the plays I'm talking about too. Did you see the route? He took off on the ball like it's a fly, like it's a go.

11:33When you're a receiver, you gotta threaten the DBD. You gotta threaten him because Jameis Williams, he's fast. He's faster than these DBs. So you better get on your horse and start hauling and then once he sits it down, ball delivered right on time. You can't stop because you're nervous to get taken up top. You'd rather him catch the ball coming back to the quarterback, but that's a 20-yard stop. You know what I'm saying? By that time, if he's not selling it, DB's chilling waiting on him to stop. Like, man, you're not going nowhere. But if you're selling that face, you're pressing it. As soon as he press him hard enough, he's going to turn that hip.

12:04As soon as he turn that hip, that's his break in. Yep. Hit that for 24 yards because he dropped it. He's throwing a 20-yard curl, and you're not expecting. Once you pass 15, 16, I'm thinking you're going to overroute. You're going deep. You're trying to take me up top. That was beautiful. And that's some things that I said when Pickens, just even if you're not getting the ball, you got a self-aid for everything. Take off. You got to. Yeah, I think it was that next second down Montgomery bloms that thing. 35. Straight to the middle. I'm trying to tell you, dude. Points off turnovers. Points off turnovers.

12:40Yes. Easy money. Quick tutty. It's 6-17. Dallas actually goes and gets a nice return, but they get a holding call. Like, that ended up kicking it back. And then I think it was, like, second and five, that hit CD again for, like, 20. Mm-hmm. 21, something like that. I think they ended up converting maybe, like, one more first down after that. And then that next first down is when, you know, CD. They got the P.I. to the end. They got the hands-to-the-face call. No, I'm talking about the next first down when CD, He threw the incompletion to CD, and he was supposed to be out. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

13:25He got to keep that in bounds. No, no, no. What'd you think? I think that was when he actually hit his head and was supposed to be out of the game, bro. Yes, yes. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, he was supposed to be out of the game. So keep that in mind, okay? Because he went to the tent, all that, right? Mm-hmm. He went to the tent. He did all that. And you know how the tent go. You ain't coming up out the tent. You was laying down there asleep. Your fingers was doing it. Yeah. So, you know, you're out. You got to be. That was the obvious concussion. Okay. So second to 10, I think they ended up hitting Pickens for nine, which would have put them at a second and one.

14:07But this is where they got the face mask, which kicked them back to a second and 25. They can't overcome that. and they end up again with another field goal. It's 9-17 now, and Detroit gets the ball back with 50 seconds, bro. Second down, go off the Gibbs, it's 18. First down, they hit St. Brown for 9. And then on third down and 1, they get a P.I. that pushes them forward. I think another 13, 14 yards. they're able to kick a field goal. They lucky it wasn't more time on the clock. Man, on the next play, my man, the rookie, the same one that got the PI, he'd lose his feet. He was out there, and sometimes, you know, as a DB, I could see he was just a little, he was a rookie, he was nervous.

14:58He was getting cooked out there. They had him in a lot of man-to-man. You trying to move your feet so fast, you ain't letting you hit the ground before you press off. Your adrenaline's catching yourself so fast, you can't even get your feet up under yourself. So when he ran the goalball, my man's feet just clipped. He just like exploded in the air and fell. I was like, oh, my goodness. He got to breathe. His feet is moving too much. His legs are heavy right now. Yeah. They end up scoring before the half. It's 9-20. Dallas comes back out there in the very first play. Dak is picked off. That pick, deflection.

15:38Dude, that's on this one. He returns it to the 14. Can I tell you one thing about that play? I am going to run him over. I'm dropping my head on him. The linebacker. Yes. I'm going to make him tackle me. I'm going to put that boom on him. I'm going to make him tackle me. You got to. You got to. No. Run into him. This is your opportunity. This is your time. This is your time. This is your time. Yes. This is your time. Ebo, I feel you. 1 ,000%. Can I speak on the play? Go ahead, brother. This is cornerback one-on-one. If you're a DB, you want the situation so bad. It's two-by-two. The running back is offset to the right of the quarterback.

16:26Once he sends it in motion and goes to a three-by-one, we call this full flow. Three-by-one, full flow, backside slant. Every DB knows this. I love the way Robinson stepped off, gets a little bit inside, acts like he doesn't know of the slant coming. And this is when you know you have a safety over the top. You play. You play that press fight. You back up because that's the route he runs. And then you got George Pickens over there, wide split on the backside of a 4x1. There's 1 ,000 % slant. So him reading tape, him being ready to film study. And then I'm looking at Dallas like, look, if dudes know what's coming in, if I know, I'm looking like, oh, my God, it's 4x1.

17:04It's a slant coming. It's a slant coming. And I just was watching, okay, get off. Don't let Dak know that you know it's a slant. That was just great plays by the defense and just route recognition. Yeah. They returned it to the Dallas 14. I think it was only two plays later. What's the dude? Tayslin? Tesslin? Yeah, I kept calling my man Tesla, but it's Tesla. Tesla. Tesla. Tesla. Tesla. Tesla. 12-yard touchdown from golf. Another rough day for a rookie corner. Second man through your zone. You just looking. That's the way. You got to take that. That's your man. He was having a difficult day. His legs was a little heavy out there.

17:44Oh, yeah. I mean, you got to realize. It be like that. I've been telling you that DB is not as tricky. I mean, when you play a lot of man-to-man, you're exposed. You're not a defensive lineman just getting hit out of their hole. That happens every single play. And nobody will know. DB, you're going to see that. You're going to see your exposure. Yeah. Well, you can see it if they run on that rock, too. You're right. 27-9 now. I think Dallas gets back out there, and it was second to seven. And how does CeeDee Lamb get a ball for 32 when he wasn't supposed to be in the game?

18:19You think he's already a little – he's already, yeah. They ruled him out after that for a concussion, but he had already – he was concussed a series or two before that. that's when they ended up they ended up ruling him out but anyway that first down I think Williams gets a nice game for 11 next play it was a holding they got a holding penalty and they get to it I think it was fourth and five they end up going for it from the seven from the eight or was it the nine it was fourth and five they ended up getting four and five they got it George big hands catch started getting trying to extra yards trying to fight for extra yards he fumbles the rock he got lucky they recovered it thank the lord because I think if they recover that it's ugly in the end zone it's over with right they get the rock it's a touchback right uh yeah yeah for sure for sure yeah but they ended up getting that thing yeah they got the first down they were able to that was huge it was necessary I think they ran it in on the second down yep it's back to a game 27 27-16.

19:3027-16. I think Detroit gets back out there and again, on the third and eight, Gibbs gives somebody to shake him. Brother, my man Bland, too. It was just, you got to use the sideline as your friend. You know what I'm saying? He's running full speed. Back hip him. He's running like he had more, like. Hey, it's Aaron Andrews from Calm Down with Aaron and Krissa. I don't know about your house, but at my house, everybody's online. streaming gaming shopping zoom calls you name it that's why having fast reliable internet that can keep up really matters and why you need optimum's famously fast fiber powered internet it blows flaky 5g home internet out of the water it's fast and reliable and doesn't slow down when everybody's online which let's be honest is all the time right now they have a deal that's tough to beat just$25 a month for five years.

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22:13Like 10 more yards of sideline over there. He was running like they were in the middle of the field. Like he had a two-way go. Man, he's about to hit them brakes so hard, and you couldn't break. He just went straight full plank mode, D-Bo. Flew by and just stayed there, too. I'm like, is he hurt? Right. Yeah. Soul, feelings, pride. That was hurt. The only thing that was hurt was the pride. Go ahead, get on up, man. Second down, golf hits Williams for 16. After that, the defense is able to hold up. They attempt a field goal and get it locked. I was like, whoa. Now we got a game. Hey, super game.

22:51Now we got a real game. Super game. They end up, I think it was like second down, they pick up 18 with Fennoy. Mm-hmm. And then second down, they put, they got a holding then. They got a holding penalty on second and nine. Yeah, they got a holding on second and nine. Knocked it back to second and 19. Yeah, and then they got the third and nine. That was the offensive P.I. That was the illegal pick. Illegal pick, yeah. Yep, yep, yep. They ended up having to settle for a field goal. On that third and nine, third and 19, they threw it to Pickens. He kind of jogged off. He didn't really know, was he running a go?

23:32Was he running a fade, DJ and then? You see it. You see it. I mean, it's multiple. times where you see him not really getting off the line. And like the one time, Dak is like, yo, press him. That's the one right there. Get off the line and press him and turn off. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, make him fear fade. You got to make the DB fear fade. Yeah. That's when your man hit the 63 yarder. Yeah, now they going, hey, I'm like 63? Yes. Yeah, easy money. Aubrey. Aubrey's the best kick in the league, bro. Oh, easily. 19 to 27. Well, he got, well, still. He's doing the indoor and outdoor, but it benefits when you're on your home field.

24:12No, it do. I'm not going to punish him for that. No, no, you can't because a lot of them are missing him indoors too. Yeah, come on, man. Buddy kicking in the turf. Yeah, Detroit come out there, Montgomery. He take it the first two. I think the first was a nine. The second was a four. Straight downhill. Yeah, and then they get an illegal formation. And I think it was, what was it? Goff, he got Williams again, wasn't it? Yeah, 14-yard joint. Yeah. I think Montgomery, he ran for like maybe two on the second. And they got a false start. Coming out to the fourth quarter. Now we got the start of the fourth.

24:52They get a false start there. I think Montgomery goes maybe, what was it, 13. And they declined the offsides. Yep. And then second down, I think he hits another one for about eight or nine. Yep. And then it's a holding. Another holding. Like, they are trying to set themselves back. They giving them a chance to self-inflicted wounds. Yeah. They can't recover from it. They end up settling for the field goal. It's 30 to 19 now. Yep. Yeah. Dallas comes out, brother. What was it? Three, four, four plays, bro. Yep. four plays and scores a touchdown. The first down, Dak scrambles on him for 12. He didn't even look like he was trying.

25:39No, he was chilling. He just ain't got the speed or the wheels might have been off or something. No, no, no. Dak is smart. Dak is smart. Jackson Dart needs to watch Dak. I was going to say. I got 60 million to make sure I'm good. I got a long career. Yeah, Williams, he runs I think it was 11 yard, 12, something like that. Okay. And I think it was second and five, bruh. Fennoy. Detroit bust coverage. Don't know what was going on there. They let his man wide open. He go 42 yards. I lied to you now. I think it was just man to man. I think he was just guessing, honestly. I'm not thinking that's supposed to be safety help because once he saw and he looked back, that was like a, damn, I'll guess wrong.

26:29You know what I'm saying? So he had to just get back on his horse. You know what I'm saying? That was just a thought of a match. He didn't get back on his horse. No, bro, you're beat. You're just looking back at that play hoping it's a sack. He dropped the ball. Listen, you're looking back hoping he dropped the ball. Dropped it, quarterback got hit, or sack. Because by this point, yes, for sure, I'm bombed. I'm bombed. I think that was a man-to-man, like honestly. Dallas ends up going for a two-point conversion. They converted. Got it. Now it is a game game, three-point game, 27-30. And driver of the game right here, in my opinion.

27:01Now, look at it. Driver of the game and the help of the game by, like, Detroit did their thing, but Dallas helped them. Like, you get that third and six, he hits Williams for what was like 29 plus. And also it starts with the kickoff returner. Yes, true statement. True statement. True statement. Like I said, they were selling all night. They were selling all night. you get that third down and he completes it for the 29 plus the roughing the passer. You know, I think they was close, so I only gave him half the 10s with 13 yards or something like that. And then I believe it was Gibbs on that second down.

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27:42The right dude. The play before, they were like, yeah, they've been bottling Gibbs up for the most part of the night. The very next play. Yeah, the very next play. He struck out on him for a for a hot 10 for a touchdown. It's 27 to 37 now, right? Yep. Yep. Man, Dallas get back out there in the first play. They sacked this man again. They was hitting him all night, dude. They was crushing him all night. For him to get as many yards as he did, man, he did a good job. The very next down though, he hits your boy Fanoid for 20 again. Fanoid, man, he stepped up. When CD went down, he was out there hooping.

28:22I did not know who Buddy was, but he was snagging the rock every time. Oh, no question, bro. He was doing a real good job. Like you said, I was with you. I didn't really know who he was either. I didn't know. Yeah. I know his name now. I think they converted maybe like three more first downs after that. Really staying ahead of the chains, doing what they had to do. And then on, I think it was third and three is when it was... With the OPI. The OPI. They declined it. it could have went the other way. I mean, I seen where he's talking about because he got the little hook on the little arm thing.

28:58He hooked the little thing and did a little twist. You know what I'm saying? Hey, if it's me, I'm glad I want that call. You want that call. Yes. You want that call. But normally you ain't getting that call. You're normally not getting it because he had a little bit, but just swing bys, blow bys, swing throughs, over the shoulders. If you had him rocking too much, you as a DB, as a linebacker, you got to say a little bit more inside leverage. He had you rocking. So then like it's kind of more of a swing through. So I could see, I don't, I think he's, I think it's a bang bang. You let that play.

29:30If you let him do that, you know what I'm saying? I think you let the offensive player do that. And then you let the DB, he didn't really even hook him. He kind of like touched him, then didn't really change his momentum. That's just a no call for me. Like, I don't think you call for me. Dude, he went to the ground. He was about to go to the ground. That's why he had to hook him. That was enough to throw him off, brother. I got to go with it, man. Listen, they got to settle for the field goal. That's the right call, baby. You okay? That's the right call. I'm okay with that on the defensive side.

29:58No, I'm not okay with that on the offensive side. He grabbed him. He grabbed him. He grabbed him, Debo. Look at me. I'm changing. I'm a corner. I feel you. I need to be alone. I'm with you, Debo. What you doing, bro? OPI. OPI all day. Detroit got – I think they had the Detroit 11, so they settled for a field goal. 32-37. Still a one-score game. And again, return game. They sell. Kennedy goes 42 yards. That thing to the 49-yard line, brother. Standing midfield. Second and nine. Goff hits St. Brown, and this man goes 37. Yep. The very best play. The man they've been keeping bottled up supposedly strikes out again for 13 for a touchdown.

30:47Boy, I thought that was almost a submission defense. I thought they almost like let him score. That's what it looked like, how easy it was. I'm not about to let you score up. Me either. We're already down. I'm just saying. We're going to be down. You're down 14 now. It's 30 to 44. He almost walked in the end zone. I'm just saying. They might not have been trying to let him score, but it looked rather easy. Yeah. I mean, hell, Dallas only got the ball with like, what, 210 left? and then they go to the fourth, they get to the fourth down to ten. They say they didn't get it. They reversed that rule.

31:20Yeah, he was on it. Yeah, that's no question. That's no question. I think first down, Dak hits Turpin for 21. And then Ferguson again, I think it was 15. Dak gets sacked for the third time by Muhammad. Come on, man. You know, and then second down, yo, How did Reed get that? That's the craziest. I don't know what. My man, DJ Reed. I love DJ Reed. We worked out together out in LA. Great, great dude. He hits me up. You know what I'm saying? And that's one of my young bulls. Love him to death. He had a tough day out there and he deserved that pick. He needed that pick. He needed that. He was out there in a lot of man to man.

32:04You playing out there, man. It was a tough day. They was going at him too now. They was going smack at my boy. But you know, they putting him in man to man. He was versity. It could be tough out there. A lot of single high. So, yes, I was so happy he got that pick, was able to close that thing out. Rough day with a pick. Ends it up. Y 'all win. You know what I'm saying? Ends up with a good day, DJ. Yeah. Dallas. Well, Detroit, they nailed it out. It's over with. Yeah. So, Detroit, they did a good job. But I'm going to say this, dude. Dallas special teams was selling big time. Like, they helped them tremendously.

32:41And then you add on top of it, you know, the three turnovers and not being able to convert in the red zone. I think they were only one of three. They ended up losing CD. And on top of that, the offensive line couldn't protect that. You know, obviously Detroit gets credit for that because the defense stepped up. I think they had five sacks 11 times. You know, Detroit's offense did a good job mixing it up like like the timing. their flow, their rhythm. They were able to do what they needed to do. Gibbs was only 12 of 43, but that was three touchdowns. He also had another seven receptions for 77.

33:23Then Montgomery was six of 60. Ten a hit, he got a touchdown. For the most part, the offensive line kept Goff clean. That allowed him to go, what, 25 of 34 for 308 and a touchdown, 309. Yep. And Williams, 7 for 96. St. Brown, 6 for 92. Like, it's going to be very difficult for people to cover both of these guys and have them on the field together with the double running back combination. When these guys are healthy, dude, like, facing this team, it's going to be hard. And Detroit didn't even go for it on one-fourth down. No, they did not. Thank you. they did not. They did a great job of making sure.

34:14Hey, maybe they didn't learn. Let's punt the rock. Yes, ain't nothing wrong with a punt. That won't hurt. It was not like a, let's not turn over the ball. And look what your special teams did for you. Special teams. That was an overall team performance. I would say their defense still didn't play as great. They put them in a lot of tough positions. There's a lot of man-to-man to be played out there. So you're depending on your D-line. You need Muhammad. You need Hutchinson to be able to get after that quarterback. So I think with Branch getting hurt, you know what I'm saying, that's going to be a little tough.

34:45They need everybody they have. DJ Reed, he could play a little bit. He had a tough game, you know what I'm saying? But that's man-to-man on CD. They're asking a lot of you. So being able to stand up. My man Robertson, he's a great—I love the way he played. Being able to be smart, being able to make those plays, being able to understand situational football. Oh, it's four-by-one. It's flow. I'm going to line off. I'm going to be able to act like I don't know what's going on and be able to make a play here. punching the ball out, Campbell. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, don't let them read your mail.

35:14Don't let them read your mail. Yes. I think a lot of the time guys don't, you know, get into that focus. And sometimes, like you said, as a corner, you can do it by yourself a lot of the times out there by disguising. But when you're trying to disguise and you're a linebacker or you're someone that's in coordination with someone that's going to be taking your coverage, you got to make sure they're on the same page as you. so that when you're out there, you know, like I said, sitting on two, making like you covering him, make sure your safety's deep. And when he sees you take off, let him roll up.

35:49You know, that way the quarterback has less time, and now he got to read it on the run. Yep. The Lions, man, it's just the Lions offense, they had a little bit of everything too, like you said. You have both running backs that can run the ball so well, they can catch it out of the backfield. Then you have Jameson Williams. You have Amarase Brown. You have always. Yes, he was supposed to be out. He was supposed to be out. He's not. He's catching bang eights, you know what I'm saying, right on time. And when you run those play actions, they mean something. Because St. Brown, I mean, because Gibbs could be running that.

36:19Gibbs could be getting a handoff. Montgomery could be getting a handoff. So when you play actions that linebackers coming up, it's open down the middle of the field. And these receivers, Jameson Williams, running good routes, taking off like it's a go route. I didn't see him really lollygagging, you know what I'm saying? So, like, these dudes are running. Every play, you got to give it 100, especially, you know, when you're talking about every person, no matter what your job is, your job is built off of somebody else being able to do their job correctly. And if you're coming out here and you lack days going your approach because you don't think something is going to go your way and you don't get the effort that you need to, now when it actually ends up going your way, you're not even ready to make the play or able to.

36:59You got to every play, man. You got to get it. and then like with them too, the special teams, Debo, my man, Tom Kennedy, if you don't have to go 80 yards, it makes it a lot easier to make it drive a lot quicker. You know what I'm saying? A couple of runs, a couple of first downs. We're already in field goal range. You know what I'm saying? So that whole team being able to put themselves in good positions, the special teams, like we said, the Cowboys sold, but that dude, Tom Kennedy, he was hitting those joints every time they was at the 50 yard line. You starting from the 50, you damn, you got points, especially when you got the weapons that he got.

37:31Yeah. Yeah, dude. I think we're going to get to my Steelers. But before that, we said, Ben, on his podcast, he said, it's time for a foster. I think we got it. Can we got the video? Maybe a fresh start for him is what's best. Whether that's in the pros, maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know what he would do at Penn State? He'd probably go win national championships. Legit. Because he's a great recruiter. Was I having a conversation? We probably had this. Probably. Or I was having this conversation the other day. I'm like, Coach T in college would be one of the greatest college football coaches.

38:12What do you think? You agree with that? I believe Coach T can coach wherever he wants. He's a great, in my mind, I think he can. I think he would be a great recruiter. But at the end of the day, I don't think Coach T is wanting to deal with kids and go and. to people. You got, yeah, you're doing a lot of... Do all of that stuff. I think Coach T's been dealing with grown men, you know what I'm saying? Being able to, you know what I'm saying? You control what you can control. That's the one thing I do love about Coach T. He does treat you like an adult, you know what I'm saying? You think he can win a championship at Penn State?

38:47I don't. I don't put it past him. With his coaching ability, if he wants to do it, I think he could definitely do it. I just think personally for Coach T, I think he could be able to still go to another NFL team in a great situation like Andy Reid. He left the Eagles. Oh, no question. If they were to let him go today, he'd have a job. There's no disrespect. For the sun was down. Yeah, a thousand percent. But I think he could do it. I just don't know if he would want to. And just all the other nuances that come with recruiting kids and having to do the main thing and keep continuing to recruit them.

39:21I think he's more. NIL, all that. NIL, all that stuff. Yeah, it's a different background here right now. Yeah. What do you think? Different animals? I don't, I don't, be honest with you. I think he could be, he could be successful for sure. But how successful that could be, the background that changed. Like, you know, you get a player and he doesn't, you know, he doesn't like what's going on in year one. Year two, he can be gone. He can go transfer, you know what I'm saying? And be out of there. And so, I mean, it's just, it's a different, you know, it's a different landscape. and, you know, I would definitely not want to be in college football, especially at the, like, big levels, even the small levels, because you're going to lose, like, if you're at a smaller D1 and you get a guy, you know, and you build him up, you're going to lose him.

40:11You're molding him for the Texans, for the Alabama. I mean, that's just, you know, that's just what it is now in this, you know, in this landscape. So, but the Steelers are playing the Ravens. Now, listen. Yes. I know I said I lost hope, but I can't help but hope. I don't know why. I do know why. Because you love it. Historically, we do play the Ravens well, okay? Minus the last – the playoff game and maybe the last game we played them in 2024. 24, you know, if you look back, I think go to maybe 21. I think we're like six and two regular season. Okay. That's six and two regular season. Like we play well against Lamar for the most part.

41:07So that's what that that's, that's one of the things that that gives me hope. And then the way the Ravens offense has been playing the last few weeks, I feel like we can win this game but the defense has to stop the run like we have to stop derrick henry and lamar and i just feel like right now you know is they're not playing too well so i think we got an opportunity but we also better be prepared to face the formation that the bills ran on us in and do the exact same personnel because this is a copycat league. And if that is not fixed, I promise you, they're going to run that at least a half a dozen times before they go away from it.

42:00Because this is going to be a lot harder to tackle Derrick Henry coming off like that than it is with Cooks. And you got a DB trying to tackle Derrick. It ain't about getting attacked. We might lose a DB, dude. And if they don't do it, if the Ravens don't even try to do it, that got to be like neglect by the coaches if they don't at least try it. Because you've just seen them do it 20 plus, if not 30 times. Hey, it's Aaron Andrews from Calm Down with Aaron and Krissa. I don't know about your house, but at my house, everybody's online. Streaming, gaming, shopping, Zoom calls, you name it. That's why having fast, reliable internet that can keep up really matters and why you need Optimum's famously fast fiber-powered internet.

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44:46Valvoline Instant Oil Change. Change wisely. And have success. And again, the offense can't turn the ball over, and we have to have some sort of success on the offensive side. Rather, it's running, passing. We have to find a way to win time. You're bringing up the offense. We got to find a way to win time of possession, bro. We got to. We got to at least try and get the defense some time to rest. Debo, you're acknowledging the offense exists. I have to. I appreciate this. We have to, though. We have to. You know? We have to. Because I'm hoping the same thing. I'm hoping the same thing. I'm thinking with the defense, understanding Lamar Jackson is not 100 % right now.

45:32You know what I'm saying? He isn't being able to – even if he doesn't choose to, he's not running the ball the way that he was running the ball normally, like taking off, being able to get it. I'm not saying that he can't, but we need to make sure that we – But we got to make sure we don't have that same game plan that we had in the playoffs where we got our outside linebackers crashing down and trying to get to a dive, and you leaving Lamar one-on-one with the state, that's not going to happen every – that's not – No, I understand. We need to – I understand with the schematics that you're talking about.

46:03We can change – we can switch that up, but I'm just saying we need to still go eight in the box. There's not – I'm not liking them. Make them have to beat us with the pass game through the air. Yes. Cover threes, single – Make Lamar beat you with his arm. Make Lamar beat us through the air. Defense, contain rushing lanes. Don't let him get in and out. They're not really going to be out there beating us man-to-man one-on-one. Or if they do, I like it. Let's do it. I'm taking that. I'm taking that all day. I'm putting eight in the box all day. We don't want to see Derrick Henry. When we get down, we want to win first down, win second down.

46:37They're third and longs. I like to see them pass the ball and we contain Lamar in there and make it fold in the pocket. Let's do that. If that's the case, I'd like us to go out there and win. Then you said offense too. Don't turn the ball over. Be able to get some run game going. You know what I'm saying? Get the ball to Washington. Get the ball to DK. Once you get that run game going, those play actions will work. Bang, hit it in the middle. We have Washington. We have DK. Let's use them. Let's get the ball to Gainwell's hands. Like, offense, like you said, matriculate. Don't turn it over. Don't hurt us.

47:06You know what I'm saying? Just make sure, you know what I'm saying? Keep it tight. It's going to be cold. It's going to be wet. It's going to be sloppy. So time of possession, being able to just have the ball, keeping it out of their hands, you know what I'm saying, is going to be good. So ugly win, just go out there and win. Nobody's looking for a pretty win, but we just know we don't want the ball to be getting ran down our throats where they just walking it down and there's nothing we can do. It's first and 10. Now it's second and three. Now it's another first down. Now it's like you can't get your feet under you.

47:33You know what I'm saying? So even with them, like us two, Debo, if they're coming out on 11 personnel, bump it. We're still going base because that third receiver they got, our safety is going to cover him, something. but we're not going to print another little guy. We want to stop the run, and then we're going to be able to cover them with our three DBs that's out here or our other strong safety that's in the box. We're not just going to have so many little bodies in another nickel. Nah, nah, because he's going to get thrown off the club, and we wonder why there's so many gaps. Nah, you got to be able to maintain.

48:06They're not used to having to coming down and fill into the line. That's not what they do. Yes, they can do it on occasion, but you're talking they ran the same play, what, 30 times? 30 times. You're going to have to get a stop. Come on. We're going to have to get a stop. We got to get that stop, man. And like you said, the offense has to do something. But I guess Pat Fryer-Moose said that everyone shows up for a film session. What do you think of him saying that? So now my thing is this. If he's saying that, that everyone shows up, then in essence, he's calling Aaron a liar. and how do you think that is going to how you think Aaron is going to take that you know when it really comes down to it like so when the media goes to Aaron he's like well you know Pat said that everyone shows up so you're either wrong or you're lying you I know Aaron Rodgers ain't gonna be talking about like I'm I'm I'm lying or I ain't going like I don't know why Aaron would say it if it wasn't true and I don't understand why Pat would come out and say that what Aaron said wasn't true like right now you you could have an issue in a locker room dude I like this is not again when I said early in the season dude I was like as long as they're winning the relationship with the Steelers Mike Tomlin Aaron Rodgers is going to go it's going to go good the relationship with Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin instead of saying it'll go good.

49:41Right now, we're at a point where this could start going bad. And now we got some deception right here. We got one person saying one thing, another person saying something else. You know, I think it could start to get ugly. You know, you drop this game, who knows what, you know, the pressure looks like. What do you – how do you feel about Friar Muth coming out and saying that? And what's your thought? What do you think? I think I don't think Aaron Rodgers is lying about people missing the meetings I think the fire move is saying that I think if A-Rod would respond it would be it wasn't you fire move you were in the meetings I don't think he's just directly talking to him he said everyone shows up for film sessions that is his he said everyone shows up well he was directly talking to the media when everyone shows up for film sessions.

50:39Everyone shows up. He's saying maybe, I don't know. I would hope, I don't know. I think he was saying like everyone shows up now. I just don't think Aaron Rodgers would lie about people missing the meetings and I would just think Firemoof is trying to put out the fire. Okay, and what were we talking about early in the season where the Dolphins were talking about they were having meetings? Look where we at now. And then someone says they're not having the meetings. Now you got people pointing fingers. Yeah. You pointing at me, you pointing at me. Who?

51:10It's not good, obviously. But yeah, I mean, it's just messy. It's messy because it makes an answer about who are you talking about? Then he says everyone's showing up. I don't know. It's just for me, you know what I'm saying? What was the question? Ask the fire move. They was like, hey, is everyone not showing up to film sessions? And then Farram was like, no, everybody's showing up to film sessions. It's like, then it's the next question. What A-Rod said, people aren't showing up to film sessions. Like, it just makes more and more questions. Like, that's why. Yes, it's going to get messy. It's going to get messy.

51:47You know? Like, we're not doing well on the offense, and that's a combination of, I think, more O-coordinated than anything else, and then players not making plays when the opportunities hit, you know, present themselves. You know, you go and you look at Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers, And their stats are similar. Do we got the stats for them too? From like their stats are similar, brother. And then even if you jump back, dude, and you look at Justin Fields, I think Justin Fields had only started maybe like six games or something. But again, quarterback rating was like a 93, 94, something like that, 1 ,100, 1 ,200 yards.

52:32Off his quarter got to go. what you're running ain't working everybody looking the same we got three quarter everybody looking the same in the same time frame with the same amount of games and then look 11 games is not a small it's right it's not like a little bit of games and like i said the same thing you look at you look at look at justin fields he had six 11 1200 yards 93 94 quarterback rating we're looking at the same thing. Yeah. They got it. Yeah. That's, that's, that's, that's the same. That's the same. They're not the same man. That was a play call. And we got to open up the playbook.

53:10We got to have people like when you, when I was watching the game the other day, like when we were watching the Lions and you're watching the, and you're watching the Cowboys, just the playbooks. Do you see them going downfield? That still do for, even though we do one picking, it was three 70 something, you know what I'm saying? And my man, Golf, dude, for 309. Like, very, very efficient. 25 capitions for 309. It's not like, and that's just another day of the office. Dude, but they're throwing the ball down the field. I don't, bro. And every quarterback is doing the same thing. Three different levels of quarterbacks now.

53:47There's no way you're going to tell me we just got bad players, bad quarterback play, bad offense, all that. And everybody's looking the same, under the same. Come on. It's a lot of route tree. Because you look at them too, you see Jamison, these dudes, running different routes. You see Amarasi Brown running. Yes, we're running on the outside of the field. I think we are allergic to the middle of the field. There's something in there that I don't know. Somebody go catch the cooties or something. I don't know. I don't know what's going on, brother. And I think they may not be respecting our play action because you got to think that they're going to run it first.

54:24You can't respect the play action if you're not running the ball successfully. That's why the back's not open. So you got to, yeah. We just got to try to step. Dude, that's not going to happen. Let's get over here to Cleveland, man. We got some sound on what Jerry Judy said. You got that? Play that video for us, please. Probably talk them off camera, you know? That's probably what I would have done different. You know, of course, I'm going to speak with mine and tell me what, and say what I see out there. but you know, you know, it is what it is, footballing man, me and Shaddao are good. You know, stuff like that happens, you know, y 'all gonna make it bigger than what it is, you know, because the media, you know, and that's what y 'all feed off of negativity, you know, but it is what it is.

55:07This is the life you live. So, you know, we move on from it. And I live a real life, you know, so what happened around in this locker room, you know, this is real, not what's going on on social media and everything. So, So, man, Chedot good, everything good. We great, we'll build. How you like that response?

55:29Joe, Joe. I hear you. I'm thinking. You're thinking. How you like that response, Deebo? I like the response. I ain't going to lie to you. Like, I ain't got no problem with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's just saying he would have approached it differently. I mean, he's not really thinking that the camera's just looking. Ain't nobody thinking the camera's looking at you when you're talking to somebody on the sideline. Y 'all going over what's going on. And the big issue that we had was just, if you go get that energy, just give it to everybody else. He just said, yo, I should have did it differently.

55:58Cool. But again, yes, the media over there, their media, yes, they're trying to make a big deal of everything. Them dudes just looking for clickbait and everything else. Yeah. Him saying it, yeah, you ain't have to say it. You could have just left it going and just been like, yo, yeah, I'll handle it different next time. or blah, blah, blah, and left the media out of it. And don't even give him any attention. Yeah. I'm not mad at all at the way that he handled it. It's just I think that he realized, too, at the end of the day, like, you're losing games. People are always going to try to pick the negativity.

56:36From us, outside perspective, I like to start doing this because I really want to give just an honest opinion. Like, I don't give a damn what, like, the bad, the good. I just want to be able to speak. Well, you're giving honest opinions, though. Yo, give me your honest opinion on this Tennessee Titans-Browns game. What's the preview? Tell me. I like the Browns 1 ,000%. 1 ,000%. 1 ,000%. I think that this is going to be a big game for the Browns. Tennessee's offense isn't doing too well. Ward is not out there with the most weapons with a lot of help. I think our defense is going to be out there smothering Ward.

57:12He's not going to have too much of a chance. Like, Miles might go get him three. You know what I'm saying? man. Denzel Ward might get him a pick. It's just going to be a lot of miles at 19, right? Miles at 19. Miles at 19. He'd get 25. He could be a 25. You're trying to get you want miles to go get six in this game. I'm going to get six. I know he's going to at least get three. Miles, you don't get six. You ain't the dude. I thought you would. See, that's that. You trying to get him going. Thank you, Debo. I like that. I like that. Give him some I like seeing saps. Tennessee's defense. is not good dude i think they're like 25th wow the offense makes them look way better they're dead last all the defense need to do is keep doing what they doing the offense needs to just have success like this right here is the team that you need to actually help you improve like they're this could be not dead last hey listen i'm trying to tell you I think this is the game where Shadour goes ahead and has him a nice game.

58:20Of course, you do Jenkins, Jenkins, Jenkins, whatever. He go get him 100 plus. Got to. It's set up. It's perfect. It's going to be probably – this could be the best game the Browns have had in the last I don't know how many years, man. It's set up for it. It's set up for success. is set up for us to really go out there and ball out. I'm just hoping, too, like, the offensive, like, it starts with the offensive line. It starts with the offensive line on the, offensive line, defensive line. I know our defense is going to hoop, but on the offensive side, if our offensive line can get Junkins going, protect your door a little bit, and protect your door, we got to make...

59:01Dude, the defense is not they should be able to, that's what I'm trying to tell you, is set up. The defense is going to do it. I'm just saying for the offense. I'm talking about the offense, their defense is what, 24, 25? Dude, it's set up for them to have a successful game. Like, this is go-go. This time. I believe this game. I think this game is going to be a good one, bro. It's going to be a real good game. Dude, it's going to be a good one. I'm trying to tell you. Come on, D-Bo. And look that set up, brother. You know what time it is. It is play or fade presented by PowerPix, baby. PrizePix, sorry.

59:50our first sponsor joe yes sir works i made my lineups for my picks for sunday's for sunday's games now you either play or you fade you tell me why you gonna like what i done did here i promise sure you're going to like what I did. 100%. Now, I got Josh Allen. I got him more. The reason I got Josh Allen more, he's going against Cincinnati. That's easy. I peeped. Now, hey, here you go. Here you go. I got Junkins for more. I got Shado for more. I think this is going to be the game that Shado will go ahead and get him 200. He's going to get him 200 passing. He's going to get him 200. Listen, Listen, Junkins going for a buck and some change.

1:00:37I got them two for Mo. That's going to be easy. And I ain't going to lie to you. I'm hoping I lose this. I got Derrick Henry for Mo. For Mo. 82. I got him for Mo. D, I got him for Mo. I'm saying he going to run for a buck and some change. What you going to do? Stand up, drop your nuts. Hey, man, that's crazy work. You going to fade this, Joe? Man, Debo, am I messed up? It's just the bottom one. You really feel like that's going to happen, or is this you playing mind games? I feel like it's going to happen.

1:01:28I can't. How many times Andy got 100 against us that he played? I think it's only once.

1:01:37Should I play? Should I fade? I love everything about this except for the last one. Why you go fade me then, Joe? Tell me why, Joe. Because I believe that they know that's the only way. We're going to stop the run. The only way. We're going to beat the Ravens because we're going to stop the run. You going to fade your boy? You fading your boy? just say it Joe I'm going to fade you Debo wow Joe go fade me make sure y 'all download the app today and use the code DeboJoe to get $50 in lineups after you play your first$5 lineup look here man tell your mama your papa everybody Joe done faded me who you going to go with me or Joe Joe or Debo Debo Joe, 50 in lineups after your first$5 lineup.

1:02:37Let's get it. Hey, man, look. We in the Super Chapman. Hey, Covenant Life back. Covenant Life back. Oh, Lord. I don't even know what to read with Covenant Life. Hey, we appreciate you now. We appreciate you. Okay? It says, Debo, you are a lion. When I was fighting triple stage, triple, ooh, When I was fighting stage three breast cancer, your workouts helped. No, I didn't do them. But in my mind, I knew I had to push and fight and use you. And just as you were doing, lifting all those weights. Joe, you are just a person of great class. You're just a person of great class, Joe. Thank you. Thank you.

1:03:21Hey, we really appreciate you. I hope, you know, I hope everything turns out right. I'll be praying for you. Prayers first and foremost. Joe and myself will be praying for you. For sure. Yes. Yeah. Hopefully everything will turn out right and, you know, just put it all in God's hands and you can't go wrong there. Yeah, for sure. Appreciate you coming in life. Always. Keep doing my prayers. Stay prayed up. And, yeah, appreciate you for watching the show, though. Real talk, man. Yes. Thank you guys for joining us again on this episode of Debo and Joe. please make sure you guys hit the like and subscribe button we will be back here on monday joe come on man i just want to let y 'all know thank you guys for joining the debo and joe show we appreciate it just continued blessings if you guys keep watching us man it means a lot thank you so much and we'll see you guys on monday we out

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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Thursday Night Football where Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions dismantled Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys. Later, they react to the ongoing drama in Pittsburgh as their season appears to be unraveling, the Cleveland Browns opening Deshaun Watson's practice window, and much more headlines heading into Week 14 of the 2025 NFL Season!

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