Deebo & Joe - TNF REACTION: Patriots keep rolling vs. Jets + Eagles-AJ Brown drama continues

21:33We have to sack him because Joe will stand in the pocket and throw that thing. He's not going to be a dude that's going to shake out the pocket and get off on us.

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22:48James Harrison:Backstage, on the road, it's loud, messy, real. And that's the best part. Whole crew, no plan, just moving. Good thing Nissan builds for that kind of chaos. Not just test tracks, real life scenes. Late nights, road trips, all of it. That's why it holds up. Nissan was ranked number one in initial quality among mainstream brands by J.D. Power. Yeah, you can tell. 2026 Nissan Rogue built for what really happens. For J.D. Power 2025 U.S. Initial Quality Study Award Information, visit jdpower.com slash awards. Awards based on 2025 model year, newer models may be shown. Hey, listen, take some liberties in that past game Because if we go and we sack Joe, then we don't let Jamar Chase get 160 plus on us.

23:36You know what I'm saying? Something else we need to do is don't be leaving our DBs out there one-on-one on this dude all the time. Like, we used to have a defense with Coastal Bowles there. It was called Double the Stars. Yes, sir. I know about that. Two of them guys, okay? That means that you take away that as long as your pass rush is there and getting there. It negates all of that. Like we have to play situationally better when it counts. And offensively, we need to run the ball. It opens up the run, gang. The Bengals' defense are still dead last in the run. And second to last in the pass. We have to take advantage of that.

24:20James Harrison:Debo, you're speaking facts, my brother. You're speaking straight facts right now. because what we need to do is the defense, we got to be able to double the stars. Like you said, we have to be able to take away the pass with, we can't lie and just sit here and act like Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins aren't amazing. They're going to make their plays. Yeah. No, no, no. They're going to make their plays, but you can't let them take over the game. No, no, no. Debo, we're saying the same thing. That's why I'm saying I'm acknowledging that you have to double the stars. I'm talking to them. So when I'm saying with our run game, we have to stop the run game with our linebackers and D-line.

25:01James Harrison:Knowing at the end of the day, if you stop this shit on first down, we got to stay ahead of the six to know we're doubling starts. They're not going to be able to just, Joe Flacco, he's throwing the ball to two people. Higgins and Jamar Chase. Those are the dudes averaging touchdowns. Jamar Chase has five touchdowns since Flacco's been out there and Higgins has six. He's throwing 12. He's throwing one touchdown to other people. So he's getting them dudes the rock. Chase is averaging 90 yards a game. So our front seven needs to stop the run game, stop Chase Brown, be able to get us in second and longs, third and longs, to where now we know we're doubling these stars.

25:34James Harrison:Get after them, TJ. Now, Highsmith, you have your opportunity. If you don't win first and second down, we can't really get you to go get them. Now we put them in predictable, knowing his passing situations. We're going to double Higgins. We're going to double Jamar Chase. Other dudes, y 'all got to get open. We got to lock that up. And TJ, Highsmith, get after him. You know what I'm saying? So sack him, hit him. You know what I'm saying? Make him feel you. You know what I'm saying? Strip sacks. You know what I'm saying? So I'm with you. We definitely need to stop the run with just our front knowing like they can't run on us because on the outside, our corners and safety, we're going to need to be able to double them dudes and take away their best players because a bomb.

26:12James Harrison:Our front seven got to stop the run. Our front seven got to stop the run. And we're going to be able to have to, our DBs going to have to double up and stand up versus these dudes. Not just saying single coverage. That's not realistic. it. If we let you double them a couple of times, you know what I'm saying? Play some zones underneath like... Situationally conduct. Yes. So we're speaking the same thing on offensive side of the ball. I'll run the ball. Be able to start ahead of the sticks. Be able to... Now A-Rod can do a play action. If we can run the rock and keep the defense on the field, we keep our defense off the field.

26:43We need to control the time of possession. I don't really care. The defense need to do what the defense is supposed to do. We ain't spend all this money for nothing. And you know what? Because I know they go do it. Joe, we giving away four tickets. Yes. Two sets of two. Two sets of two to the game this Sunday. You know what you got to do? Follow Joe, myself. Like and subscribe to Deebo and Joe. And we will pick the winner on Saturday. Because we want you there to see us go ahead and get our get back.

27:17James Harrison:Got to. Because we lost the first game and we got to go get that get back. gotta get that get back gotta get that get back matter of fact no I ain't gonna say nothing not yet not yet let's go on here and stay over here let's go on here and stay over here in the AFC right here on the North they said Lamar Jackson overrated they said he the most overrated quarterback who said who said that stupid that's a garbage mouth lie They may be talking about just sitting in the pocket, not being able to use none of your other talents. I don't know. I wouldn't. He could still throw the rock, too. I mean, I don't I don't know.

28:03So I believe I believe your Browns are playing the Ravens. So, Joe, what what do your Browns need to do to beat the Ravens? I actually I'm actually rooting for you all this time.

28:19James Harrison:Well, first things first, we need to, it sounds like we need to do, we need to control, we need to run the ball first. Be able to run the ball, we need to get Juckins going, we need to be ahead of the sticks, all the same. It's like when your offense isn't good, what you need to do is stay ahead of the sticks. Make sure your run game is solid. Make sure you don't put yourself in long third down situations. because Dylan Gabriel has shown that he can't really throw the rock too well. So what we need to do is stay ahead of the sticks. Defense, you got a ball out. Obviously, we need turnovers. We need to stop the run.

28:55James Harrison:We need to create turnovers. We need to put our offense in short fields to try to get them to be able to not have to go that far to get points. So it's going to be a game where defense, you can't really give up anything because at the end of the day, I don't trust our offense too much. So offense, in the end of us, Ravens' defense has been playing better. They've been standing up a little bit more. And Lamar's back, healthy. They're coming off of a – they're rolling. They won their last four. So, I mean, we – what we need to do, our defense has to play out of their minds. Offense got to run the ball.

29:30James Harrison:And basically, that's our only hope. That's your only hope. So you ain't too happy. You ain't too encouraged that they're going to be able to do this. this is what i'm saying this would be a game that we mess around and win we always find a way to do some wild stuff that's something i'm not to you you know when you suspect that we come out there and get a dub i'm not mad i think the effort's going to be there i'm just worried about end of the day when we do get that ball on offense i don't i just don't want to deal he's been throwing the ball into the dirt a lot you know i'm saying like we got to get i mean they say once he had 167 yards and two touchdowns with no picks last week, and everybody was saying that was a good game.

30:10James Harrison:I don't want to talk crazy because he didn't have zero picks, but there's been, when you throw a screen pass, like a throwback over the man's head, out of bounds, and he could have just caught the joint. That's just a bad pass. Nobody was on you. I just see too many just— You could have made that pass, huh? Easy, Debo. I would have hit him right. You know what I'm saying? You see, you feel, you hear that anger that rise in your voice. Oh, my gosh. That's what I'm saying. I was chilling, too, until I really wasn't. I don't get that in the other side. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I'm the only person there when it's weed and when it's the Stillers.

30:46But when it's y 'all, it's crazy. You know why?

30:49James Harrison:Because I really believe that the Stillers are about to go out there and they should spank Flacco. And that's going to be a good time. And it's really exciting because I think that's really going to happen. with the Browns right now, I just I'm kind of like I'm hurt a little bit more. I'm hurt. You know what I'm saying? I'm looking. I know my boys are out there. They're trying to fight them, but I'm like, God, it's bad over there right now. So I'm just a little sad. You're grieving. Speaking of grieving, the NFL filed a grievance against the NFLPA for report cards. I think, did you read it? Yes.

31:24Yes. I think for the most part, I think it's bull. They say it violates the collective bargaining agreement that the union, I think they said, quote, it was using reasonable efforts to cartel public comments by clubs, personnel or players, which express criticism of any club, its coach or its operations and policies. like no no nflpa that means players association we are not for the nfl like we're trying to make things for the players better all right the nfl just doesn't want their dirty laundry air out that's all like like now you know i understand it's a couple of points in there that i can understand not even i maybe maybe even agree with to a point like like like like like needing to make sure it's actually players that's doing it yes yes no you don't get the names you can get just player xyz yeah yeah but just you know he's a legitimate player right he's a legitimate player Like, okay, I'm cool with that.

32:41Like, I do agree that it should be specific, you know, feedback to what the teams, you know, need to do, what they need to improve. But it's still going to be an A to F grading scale because it's going to be based on a percentage.

32:57James Harrison:Yeah. 10, 100 to 90 is an A, 89 to 80 is a B, and so on and so forth. Yes. So, like, that is just what it's going to be. This is what I'm saying, D-Bow. The NFL doesn't want the dirty laundry out there. And this is the other thing, too. Like, NFL, like, when you go to these facilities and you do things, like, we're not trying to be bougie. Certain teams, if you walk into the Browns facilities compared to walking into the Stills facilities, I'm not going to grade the Stills facilities. Like, oh, no, it's trash. It's just not as nice as it's luxury. The other stuff would be. So they have all the accommodations, food.

33:35James Harrison:You're going to be honest and let them know what it is. But certain places have better things and take care of the players more. If everybody get up to the same level, then you don't have a discrepancy in your grading scale. Just get your stuff up to the level. Get your stuff up to the level. This is why I need to be NFLPA executive director. Like point blank period. And you know what? My dude, Cam Hayward, is on the executive committee. And from what I understand, my name has to be put on the ballot by someone that is on the committee. And he said he would do that. Oh, there we go. So I'm hoping that he did that.

34:12And I would, you know, I would be on the board.

34:15James Harrison:He definitely did it. And I would love. Like I said, I don't know. I'm just assuming that if my name was on it, I would have had some type of contact by now. But I haven't. Okay. So, you know, I'm just, you know, I don't know. I'm not saying he has or he hasn't, but when you have, you know, Jalen Reeves, maybe as the current NFL PA president, like nobody even knows. So if my name doesn't make it on the final players, you know, vote ballot for executive director, I'm thinking it gotta be something up, you know? Yeah. Because to be honest with you, though, here it goes. the nflpa a lot of them people over there that work for the nflpa want to work for the nfl okay prime example being go back troy vinson troy vinson worked for the nflpa and went to the nfl here's the crazy thing he blew his cover though when we were doing the collective bargaining agreement for the 2011 charles woodson and ryan clark rc woodson actually said we thought he was for us.

35:25I knew he wasn't for us. R.C. said absolutely lost credibility. This is when they ended up getting Demarcus Smith, who, by the way, went and set rules in place that we have now that actually took the power away from the players to make the decisions of who they wanted to vote for and put it into basically a committee or board that he picked that would actually pick who the person was he would run against in the reelections when that time came. So that basically ensured that he would win while he lined his pockets with more and more money going from a salary in 2010 of like$1.5,$1.6 million to ending in 2023 at$9.3 million.

36:21what place do you know that increases your salary in a 13-year span by 5x

36:34dirty dirty dirty politics there's too many people over there that are trying to do what is necessary for them to get more dude i could go into it even with when i went through that al jazeera where they were trying to say oh james hirson is doing this doing that right The lawyer they gave me, who was a personal close friend of D. Smith, and he got her the job, she's asking me questions, bro. And I'm telling her. I'm like, yeah, it's this, that, whatever, da-da-da-da. We get in there. The NFL lawyers are like, okay, we know you do this and that, da-da-da-da-da, blah-blah-blah. I'm like, what? Good thing I wasn't guilty.

37:14Because if I had told her, she would have already went and told them. So it's things like that. do you want somebody that's gonna be there representing you like how does your salary go four or five times x like you gotta you don't make no sense you're not there to take care of the players it ended up being there to line his pockets taking the power away from the players to make the decision so as i understand it now if you're not put on by the executive committee who then makes a decision on who gets put out to the public. Like I may not even, I may be put on the ballot, but they do that behind closed doors before they decide who gets put out to the public.

38:00So if Mabin is your NFLPA president right now and I don't get put in front of the players,

38:09James Harrison:something's wrong. It's going on and it's still the NFLPA trying to make it to the NFL. Okay. Nah, D-Bo. We're going to keep an eye out on that because if he put your name out on the ballot, there should be no reason. Then we know it's - It should be no reason it should not make it to the players. There should be no reason he should be on there. For sure. You know what I'm saying? Like weak representation is no representation. Mm-hmm. Nah, I'm with you on that. And we were saying too, when we was going back to the, just the report cards too, do you think that, I think the report cards are a good thing.

38:41James Harrison:Like I said, too, as long as you have the honesty of it's a player playing. And dudes are going to tell you what it is. How's the food? How's the travel? How are they treating us? Because some people have played for other teams. Some dudes, you just don't know what you don't know. So if you play for another team, you've been to a facility, you moved that way, you went to these facilities. Like the one thing I say about the Steelers, too, and it's not a knock. When we're saying like these facilities aren't as good as others, it's because Pitt. They aren't. Steelers are split with Pitt. Panthers.

39:09James Harrison:Like it's just smaller. It's just you don't have a whole facility. You don't have enough, as much space. So when you go to other joints where it's just a whole big old, like a training facility just for you in particular with just so much stuff that you don't even really need. But it's nice. So I'm going to rate that. That's a 10. That looks like you. It's amazing. Everything is just very, very new. It's very clean. But at the same time, you're going to get the job done. The weights still work the same way the weights work. You know what I'm saying? The staff. Listen here. Listen, it's a salary cap, right?

39:41Every team got to spend a certain amount of money or it is able to spend a certain amount of money. If they don't, it's certain things that happen or don't happen. If they go over certain things that happen or don't happen. It needs to be a standard for what your facility should look like, should have and be accessible to your players, period. That way you ain't got to worry about it. That's the only thing y 'all want to, you know, not have across the board. The salary cap, you want to make sure nobody's spending on more than nobody else. Like, make sure the facilities are to the standard at every facility than it just being coaches or teams or owners that want to make sure that their facilities are grade A versus guys that are like, hey, it's

40:22James Harrison:doable or it's efficient enough. Yeah, yeah. No, for sure. We speak in the same, same language, buddy. Because that's where it's who the ownership. Like, that's really kind of I think that's mainly more on like the owners more like because they're they're building. they own the facilities that you're training in and all that stuff. So, I mean, if they want to spend to have their stuff looking sweet, like Dallas, you just, they look, it looks amazing. When you were in college, you getting recruited to Florida, you go see their facilities, you go see Alabama facilities. Yes. You know, I'm like this.

40:53James Harrison:That's like, people want to go there. The stuff looks sweet. Let's go. Right. Makes people want to go work there. Yeah. Yeah. You got to realize in college, what's going to get you there? Well, back then, it was the facility. It was the recruiting tool. Yes. Yeah. It's the, you know. It's the bread. What is it? NIL. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Plus the facility, because if you're looking at the same thing and the facility better here than it is there, then yeah. I'm going to go with I get the facilities and the bread. Right. No question about it. No question about it, dude. AJ Brown said he ain't making no apologies for his Twitch stream, dude.

41:27You see what he said? Yeah.

41:31James Harrison:He told them boys, he told them boys, man, you know what it is. He's talking to his homeboy, playing the game, and he's like, it is. I'm trying to laugh through it where he wants to rock. You know what I'm saying? And he's saying no matter what, like winning the games, it is what it is. But if we're on the offensive side of the ball, I can respect this as an offensive player. I would want my team to be able to like, don't talk about the defense. Talk about how we can make the offense better. He's trying to provide for the offense that he feels like he can do. Amen. All right. Visit boostmobile.com.

42:33James Harrison:Make it a summer of life at Credit Union 1 Amphitheater. Get four lawn tickets for just$99 and see Evanescence on July 8th, John Mellencamp on July 11th, The Black Crows and Whiskey Myers on July 24th, Neo and Akon on July 28th, Avenged Sevenfold and Good Charlotte on July 30th, and many more. Get your friends and grab tickets now at creditunion1amp.com. Bro, from the show last night to this drive, why is it never chill? Because this is our life. Backstage, on the road, it's loud, messy, real. And that's the best part. Whole crew, no plan, just moving. Good thing Nissan builds for that kind of chaos.

43:18James Harrison:Not just test tracks, real life scenes. Late nights, road trips, all of it. That's why it holds up. Nissan was ranked number one in initial quality among mainstream brands by J.D. Power. Yeah, you can tell. 2026 Nissan Rogue built for what really happens. For J.D. Power 2025 U.S. Initial Quality Study Award information, visit jdpower.com slash awards. Awards based on 2025 model year, newer models may be shown. It didn't work. Hey, man. They say that man, AJ Brown, just changed his IG bio to unemployed an hour ago. No, he didn't. I don't know. He trying to tell us something or is he just gassing?

43:57But I think he must be, look.

43:59James Harrison:the checks He basically saying like I ain't got no job because I ain't got no numbers. That's what he's saying. He's saying that because the checks still hit on Wednesday. He's still getting a check. The check go clear, baby. But I'm getting paid. You with him or you against him? What do you think of him not apologizing for or saying what he said? Me personally, I ain't got no problem with. He's just keeping it 100. Hey man, take me off. Y 'all think I'm going to get you any fantasy points now? Y 'all done seen what I'm going to get. I'm going to get a catch here and there. That's it, man. I got to go up against Chase.

44:31I got to go up against Jeffrey. I got to go up against guys that's getting the ball total to him, man. You know, we ain't going to throw the ball no more than 16 times a game. Diva, are you feeling that same way if you are on the Eagles? No, I lied, man. It was Tyreek that said unemployed. No, A.J. Brown. Nope. It was Tyreek.

44:52James Harrison:It was Tyreek Hill that said that. Not A.J., yeah. Thank you, Jesus. I was about to say I was about to say he's definitely he's that's not even a subliminal he's still on the roster though yeah why would he say that Tyreek you can't release him he hurt himself who Tyreek yeah

45:13James Harrison:I don't know let me look at that again you can't release this man they could if they was the pan ooh that's a lot of money though they owe Tyreek Hill they owe Tyreek Hill guarantee Oh, you cut a man while he hurt like that. You got to pay for whatever that whole thing would be plus recovery. Do he have another year on his contract?

45:35Say that one time. If you cut somebody while they hurt, you get... You got to pay him. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We going to see. We going to see. Hey, man. And speaking of that, Travis, he out for the year, bro. God.

45:53James Harrison:Dang. LCL, I think it was. Yep. What you think, man? The more and more that I'm watching it, and the more and more that I see like Travis isn't really like the biggest, you know what I'm saying, body, got to go one way. Like, I would think you just got to go one way mainly. Just for body-wise, you know, the NFL not for long. You're going to get hurt. People are going to get hit. We're going to get injured regardless. So I'm just thinking longevity-wise. At first, I was thinking if you're the Jaguars, you get a first-round pick. You got elite talent. Your team isn't really as good. You can use them on both.

46:27James Harrison:You can get a top-flight corner and a top-flight receiver. But now the more I'm looking at it, like, for the health of the kid and for Travis Hunter's, like, career-wise, like, do you want it to be cut short just because you're trying to, at the end of the day, it's the NFL. You're playing for the best people in the world, over-exerting yourself. where if you just locked in on one, you know what I'm saying, got your mind right, was able to go Pro Bowl, like really just focus in and be able to make that your thing. Like being able to try – because you still could get hurt. You know what I'm saying?

46:53James Harrison:Playing once. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to knock that one. I mean, you go – I think you get a lot more protections playing receiver than you would, you know, at the corner position. Plus, people got to adjust to you. He's not adjusting to them. You know, he's not trying to figure out if this dude will try and run past him and through him, you know, and having to be able to step that foot into the ground, you know what I'm saying? Like, I would, and like you said, you know, he's not an extremely large dude. So I'm with you. I would go to the offensive side, especially now, dude.

47:31You can't even really hit nobody. Like, coming across the middle is just something, you know. Coming across the middle is a thing of the past.

47:38James Harrison:No, for sure. You're right. You're right about that. I mean, if you want, I like him at DB. I like him at DB. I like him at receiver, dude. I think he'd be a great receiver. I just don't know how, I mean, he could be a great receiver too, but I just think his routes and stuff like that aren't as crisp as a, you know what I'm saying, like a Chase, like a Jefferson. You know what I'm saying? I think those are the elite of the elites. I think at DB. He got, you know, one of those other quarterbacks on that overrated list was his quarterback. Trevor Lawrence? Yes. I don't think he's that overrated.

48:15I think Trevor Lawrence is not that. You don't think he's that overrated. It depends on who you're talking to. You think he's overrated? It depends on who you're talking to. If I'm talking to a fan of some sort, for me, I don't think he's overrated because I have a realistic view of his skills, like expectations. like depending on what announcer you get announcing the game, you think he the next coming to Joe Montana. You ain't lying.

48:43James Harrison:Like. You ain't lying. I don't think he's bad. I think he's a solid franchise quarterback, bro. And if he can, I think he can make the throws. He can make all of the throws. Consistently?

49:00Consistently? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stop, bro. consistently. I like Trevor.

49:06James Harrison:I'm not a Trevor Lowe. I'm saying you can like it. I'm just saying I'm going by the skill. What do I see? I don't know. I think he's going to be solid. I think he's going to be solid. Okay. Do you think Travis Hunter is going to be better, though, at receiver than at corner?

49:29James Harrison:Debo. I just like him better at receiver, dude. Okay. No, no. And I respect him, too. I like his adjustments to be able to get to the ball, all that. I don't like him having to come up with a lineman coming out there to do the screen, and you can't cut that lineman. I don't like that. That's not something I want to see. I think he's going to be – either way is going to work. Like you said, his ball skills, you know what I'm saying, being that receiver, of being able to adjust his body. Right. His adjustments to balls. Like, he did it. That's what he's done. Being able to do that, dude, that's a hard skill.

50:11You look and see, you know, in the New England game where a dude couldn't adjust back to a couple passes because he'll do a couple catches. That's Travis. He get there.

50:21James Harrison:Yeah. Travis Hunter, he's a baller. He could do either way. He could play either side of the ball. I just want him to pick one of them joints and get after it because I think the more and more I think about it, just the health. You know what I'm saying? I don't want him to start off his career just being able to get hurt and then you know what I'm saying? It continue. So I want him to just take one of them spots corner or receiver, whichever one it is, and just hone his craft and become elite. Okay. I got it. But I'm a receiver. I'm sorry. You're a receiver though. You're DB. I think that's going to be DB.

50:56James Harrison:Yeah, because I know his ball skills and how elite he could be at DB, like that's the thing. He could be one of the best to do it at DB. You know what I'm saying? Because the ball skills, the being able to read stuff. Like when he was in college at Colorado, breaking in zones and being able to play man. Because he could run, he could jump, he can come out of his brakes just as fast or faster than these receivers. And then he's going to turn into the receiver. When he turns around, he's playing the ball in the air. You know what I'm saying? Looking back, he sees that, he's like, oh, that's mine.

51:23James Harrison:He can go get it. So I just think with the athletic ability and ball skills, it'll make him one of the best to do it at DB. But as a receiver, there's other guys that are receivers that I see that are better than him. Also, you're going to be playing against better caliber of quarterbacks and receivers at this level. Matthew Stafford ain't going to put that thing right there for you to be able to get it. He's going to put it where only his dude can get it and nobody else. In college, the placement is not like that. The speed is not like that. Every receiver you come up against and go have that ability to be that, you know, that chase, referees, you know, things like that.

52:03So I think while he is a great talent, I think some of that added to helping him, you know, be as good as he was in college.

52:12James Harrison:No, for sure. We on the same page. We just think that boy Travis Hunter is a dog. Wherever he's at, he's going to thrive. I just want him to be healthy and be out there. Yeah, and he got hurt in practice. So, like, you know, like, that's tough. I ain't even get to go out there and get, you know, popped on the battlefield. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, that hurts. That hurts. They work on that turf. Hopefully they will. Let's go over here to Detroit, though. Gibbs, they say he closing in on Barry Sanders' record for the most touchdowns before the age of 24. Oh. They said that dude got, what is it, 41 right now?

52:58And what we got, how many games we got left? We got eight. Seven, eight? Seven, eight games left? Seven, eight. He only need six more or seven more to beat it. I think that record is, what, 47? Record is 47 for sure.

53:14James Harrison:Mm-hmm. Yeah. You think he going to be able to do it? Like, he hitting two and three, well, he hitting two a game. Like, it's multiple games where he going to hit two. Yeah, I think he can. And I think with their coaching staff, they could put it in a position where it gets down there. Hey, they going to make sure. I ain't even think about that, man. That's a staff that's going to be able to care about that. Your coach knows. Make sure if he gets you in that position to be able to do it, he going to get it done. Let me distribute this little telly to him. Montgomery, distribute the telly to you.

53:45James Harrison:Williams, St. Brown. Okay, you've been waiting on this. So I think once it gets down to the nitty gritty, their offense is so powerful. and they coach and just feeling their vibes, he going to be able to get him his touchdowns if he gets close to it. Because like you say, he's going two touchdowns a game. If he, the next two games, two a game, it's going to be easy for them to, I think, get it to him. If he get two in the next, if he get two tubs in the next

54:11two or three games and one in any one of them, I'm definitely going to say he's going to get it. So how many we say, he needs six right now? He needs six right now to tie it. Oh, for sure.

54:22James Harrison:He needs seven to beat it. Yeah. What do you mind doing? I'm not getting to get it. That's crazy. How many years you been in the league, bro? It's only what, four right now? Yeah, because he's, yes. Because he still ain't got no, because he still don't have a bag. He's still in his rookie deal. Montgomery, Montgomery hit him for a little bag. So you. Yeah, yeah, he got him. Gibbs ready. Gibbs, he's balling. So, yeah, he's going to deserve it all. Young Bull. This is probably your fourth. Bruh. 23 he was picked, bruh. 23. First round, yes. That's what? Because he was what he was. So his rookie season, he was 26 and he just switched to zero.

55:09James Harrison:Bruh. It ain't even three deep yet. God. Yeah. They got to go ahead and they need to keep performing while they got this duo because that's going to be a Brinks truck they're going to have to back up to my good man. Ooh, but that's going to be hard. There's a thing called the salary cap. No, but that's what I'm telling you. They got to do it now. And then, yeah, they might have to draft another little one. But look, that's the thing. When you got a team like that, they already signed a bunch of their players already. They already signed Williams. They already signed Goff. They already signed Amarase Brown.

55:47James Harrison:They've been giving out bags over there. They've been doing a good job. At some point, believe me, these contracts will get front or back heavy, and it's going to be decisions that got to be made, man. Debo, that's what I'm trying to tell you. You know, Debo, the more— When people always say that to me, this is what— Dude, you got to win. You got to win, and this is the other thing, too. You got to be able to—the thing that the teams realize, you can guarantee money to your ballers. If your ballers are performing at a high level, that's when you can live. If your ballers are performing and not performing, that's when you can't be signing people and be making all of the bread.

56:25James Harrison:Because if the dudes are making money, guarantee your quarterback's salary. Guarantee your quarterback's salary. And I tell you, that opens up so much space. That's the one thing I always will look at like, man, just make the contract of your quarterback or your best players that are hooping. Fully guarantee that year. And then that opens up so much money in the cap. Yeah, but, you know. did that just turn off oh can you hear me can you hear me yeah i can hear you yeah but you gotta you know it ain't a year-to-year contract dude it's a you know it's at least four-year contract so you gotta guarantee so much of that if not all of it you know what i'm saying depending on what type of deal that they're willing to take like if i want to take a friendly deal you got to guarantee me something that's going to be conducive to where I feel like I'm going to be at the end of that contract, especially with it being so short.

57:19And you, you know, your game is going to get better, hopefully, and elevate. So instead of it being market value right now, you know, what is a top-tier quarterback where I'm going to cost you$50 million right now in four years? Like, what's that going to cost? You got to think about it. What Patrick Mahomes deal was. He's making like 40 something right now.

57:39James Harrison:Everybody else making 50 something. But Patrick Mahomes is smart. Patrick Mahomes knew he could have went in when he did his deal. He could have stung him for$50 million a year. He went and did a$45 million a year for 10 years just so they can move money around. Because you know, when you got a quarterback like that, he's not going nowhere. So the 45 guarantee for Patrick Mahomes, you don't have to guarantee it right now. But every year, he's not going nowhere. You can read. I understand what you're saying. But like right now, look at the window. It's closing. You can't say it ain't. I mean, you can't tell me this.

58:13James Harrison:I mean. As long as you got Patrick Mahomes, you got a chance. As long as you got Patrick, you got a chance. And they got defense. They still got Jones in them. Defense is sometimes there, sometimes not. Like, situationally inconsistent for sure. But you know what it is, though, people. They going to be there. So, like, you know what I'm saying? They going to be there at the end. So, it's like you going to have Patrick Mahomes with – you're going to have to see, can you beat them or can you not when you get to the playoffs? I mean, I don't disagree with you. You know, I just like to, you know, I like to get stuff started.

58:42I know you like to be the devil. You like to get stuff started. You know, devil's advocate. I like to get stuff started. You know what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong. If I'm Pat and I'm in that same situation, yeah, give me the 500 back and guarantee every penny of it. I'm going to give you a deal. I'm chilling.

58:55James Harrison:And I think that's what the good quarterbacks are starting to do. Like, you know, you ain't got to sting them all. Do a shorter term. You know what I'm saying? Josh Allen didn't even go get more than what Dak Prescott got. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, the next man up, something like Jaden Daniels. Hey, listen. You're going to get what you're going to get. All money ain't good money, okay? He know, like they say, the grass ain't always greener on the other side. You might get that money and then be sitting there like your boy, what's his name? My man, Miles. Your Miles Garrett. Upset.

59:29Yeah. Although you got the bag, now you can't win. No. And I'm, we're saying the same thing.

59:39James Harrison:It's just the quarterback position is one where dudes are making$60 million per year. It's coming. And if you have a good one, I just think that the cap can help you with being able to just guarantee money to your best players. You know what, man? I say, baseball, they ain't got no cap, right? They ain't got no cap. Listen, go uncap. We're going to see what... Man. What owners... No cap. We're going to see what owners really want to win. That's when you're going to find out who's the Yankees. You know what I'm saying? The Yankees. Who's the Dodgers? Who's going to be the Yankees? Who's trying to drop that bag?

1:00:16James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Uncap this thing, and we're going to see who's going to be the Yankees. Is Jerry going to throw extra money into his possession of toy to make sure he can beat them boys again? or is he not? The only thing uncapped, Debo, do you know? No cap, no cap. Hey, start, no cap. No cap. If we did no cap though, Debo, no cap would make the NFL crazy. It would be crazy because then that would be legitimate. Like, I couldn't even imagine. You're right. That's exactly what we're going to see. We're going to see who got them trash facilities. Yep. Who cares? Who cares? You're only going to be able to spend, you can only spend the same thing, 50 % of whatever they make and whatever.

1:01:02James Harrison:So it's like 50-50 splits up. We've got to spend 50 %? Something like that. Each team has to spend the same. No, it's a number, point blank period that each team has to spend at whatever it is. And if they don't spend up to a certain percentage of it, which is like almost 90-something percent, 80-something percent, whatever it may be, then it's a penalty or whatever. Okay, no, no, okay. They don't really care about that, dude. But that's the way that— Because they do revenue sharing anyway. No, no, no. For sure. But I said that's the only reason, though. But that's why it keeps, the salary cap keeps going up.

1:01:35James Harrison:It has to go up. Because it's a certain amount. If they're making more, then they have to, you know what I'm saying, we're busting down to 50-50. They got to spend. Man, that ain't no 50-50 break, too. That's after they scrape a certain amount. It's after they scrape a certain amount. Like I said, man, I could get deep into this thing, but I won't. I understand what you're saying, Debo, but people getting paid$60 million a year when back in the day when I think when we first got in around 20, when I first got in, I think around 2010, I think the highest paid quarterback was probably making$16 million a year.

1:02:12Yep. And then that has to be because the TV deals and salary. And I made$60 ,000 that same year. So now what? Dang. They tried to get you. What are we talking about? You're making billions and billions of dollars.

1:02:29No, Debo, we're speaking the same. We're saying the same thing. Oh, we're saying the same thing. You were saying a little something different. I'm saying uncap that thing.

1:02:40James Harrison:I hope they uncap it. That would be - We're in the wild, wild west. Ain't no way in hell they're uncapping it, though. The Yankees now, the Yankees out there doing that shit now. You hear? The Yankees are proving that, like you said, if it goes uncapped, that's going to show which owners are trying to win for real no question no question some people ain't gonna be able to compete yeah that's what i'm saying i think they're trying to keep it competitive that might be it for sure i don't know why does baseball not care though dude i don't know why baseball don't care but the fact that the baseball don't care and the NFL still makes more money than any professional sport, it's crazy to me, even though they're uncapped over here, brings in more money.

1:03:27Like, even though, like, and they're uncapped and we're still bringing in more money than them, like, as a whole, period. I mean, I understand there's more players on the team and all that other stuff, but, like, man, if you want to win, man, you spend the green to get in.

1:03:45James Harrison:That's that baseball uncapped. That's that overseas soccer money uncapped. Ooh, soccer ain't got no caps over there. Man, that soccer, boy, that soccer talk. That soccer got way more money than anybody. They paying the team$20 million and then taking over the buddy's same contract. They giving you$20 million just for him. Just give me him for$20 million, and then I'm going to pay his contract. And I'm going to pay his contract, whatever it is. And I'm going to pay his contract, whatever it is. It don't matter. Yeah. I'm going to get my boy kicking a soccer ball. That's what I need to do. I don't know about that.

1:04:24You got to go over there. You know what I'm saying? Oh, we got to move over there. You got to move over there, man. You got to move over there. Negative. Yeah. I don't think there's too many from here that got that money like that. You know what I'm saying? I feel it. Listen here, man. NFL PA is for the Play us. NFL. The NFL. James Harrison. NFLPA Executive Director. If my name aren't on the ballot, I know what y 'all doing. Look here, man. We want to thank y 'all for coming out here and being with us. Okay? Don't forget, we are giving away two sets of two tickets to this game Sunday so that you can sit there and watch as my, are our Pittsburgh Steelers.

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