Deebo & Joe - TNF REACTION: Texans UPSET Bills + Steelers-Bears predictions, Shedeur expectations

21 Nov 2025 · 1 h · 21 chapters

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In short

Debo & Joe break down the Texans’ 23-19 upset over the Bills, focusing on Houston’s defensive pressure (8 sacks on Josh Allen), key red-zone stops/turnovers, and special teams swings (a kickoff return TD and a missed Bills extra point). They then pivot to Steelers-Bears matchup planning (stop the run, force Caleb Williams into third-and-long, create turnovers) and finish with expectations for Shedeur Sanders in a Browns-Raiders game, emphasizing “simple throws, no turnovers,” plus a side bet about Shedeur’s first-start win.

Guests

No named guests appear in the transcript. Hosts are James “Debo” Harrison and Joe Hayden (with ad reads from other voices).

Key claims

Houston is operating like a “number one defense” (yards/points allowed, takeaways, turnover margin, third-down defense). Bills couldn’t protect Allen; Houston’s front four plus sticky secondary limited big plays. For Steelers: stop Swift, keep favorable down-and-distance, rush as a unit. For Shedeur: protect the ball; rely on defense and run game.

Notable examples

Allen’s fumble/sack sequence; Will Anderson “lost contain” play; Shakir swing pass and missed catch on a third-down; Texans’ red-zone turnover on downs; hook-and-ladder on 4th-and-27; Steelers’ plan to get strip sacks (TJ Watt/Highsmith/Burfict mentioned).

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Welcome Back to Deebo and Joe

0:29 to 1:44

The hosts dive into discussing recent football games and their excitement.

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Texans Upset Bills

1:44 to 2:18

Discussion on the unexpected victory of the Texans over the Bills.

“I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden.”

Breaking Down the Plays

2:18 to 6:03

Detailed analysis of key plays during the Texans vs. Bills game.

“I just didn't see what happened happening.”

Houston's Offensive Strategies

6:03 to 8:24

Further discussion on Houston's offensive plays and player performances.

“And then the next play, he just misses a dude.”

Buffalo's Response and Challenges

8:24 to 13:12

Analysis of Buffalo's gameplay and obstacles faced during the game.

“And Chubb, I think he ends up getting the ball on the first down.”

Game Conclusion and Predictions

13:12 to 14:01

Wrap-up of the game insights and predictions for future matchups.

“Second down, they get an incomplete, but they get an illegal contact.”

Game Highlights and Key Plays

14:01 to 19:50

A detailed breakdown of the game's pivotal moments and player performances.

“And then they get stopped on that first down.”

Game Highlights and Key Plays

20:39 to 22:13

A detailed breakdown of the game's pivotal moments and player performances.

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Buffalo's Struggles and Houston's Defense

22:28 to 30:00

Analysis of Buffalo's offensive struggles against Houston's strong defense.

“Dude, and Houston's defense is on Allen's back, buddy.”

Critical Moments and Key Plays

30:00 to 34:30

Discussing critical plays including sacks and turnovers that shaped the game's outcome.

“He hit him forward in the back, and he gained a yard, they said, for sure.”
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Houston's Potential and Offensive Challenges

34:30 to 37:20

Exploring Houston's defensive capabilities and the challenges their offense might face ahead.

“Don't turn the ball over, be able to score touchdowns instead of field goals.”

Steelers vs. Bears Outlook

37:20 to 42:00

Examining the upcoming match between the Steelers and Bears and the defensive importance.

“And when you look at it, you know, Chicago's offense, dude, like, they're number four total offense in the NFL.”

Mason Rudolph's Role and Expectations

42:00 to 44:21

Discussing the importance of Mason Rudolph's performance and the team's strategy for success.

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Mason Rudolph's Role and Expectations

46:08 to 46:48

Discussing the importance of Mason Rudolph's performance and the team's strategy for success.

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Mason Rudolph's Role and Expectations

46:52 to 47:02

Discussing the importance of Mason Rudolph's performance and the team's strategy for success.

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Shador's Debut and Team Dynamics

47:02 to 50:45

Analyzing the expectations for Shador in his first start and team strategies against the Raiders.

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CeeDee Lamb's Curfew Incident

50:45 to 56:01

Discussing the repercussions of CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens being benched after breaking curfew.

“Scramble maybe for a couple of first downs.”

Managing Finances in the NFL

56:01 to 1:02:40

Learn about the importance of financial planning for NFL players and the pitfalls of poor spending habits.

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1:02:40 to 1:04:48

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Celebrating Subscriber Milestones

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1:44Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. please make sure you guys like subscribe you don't want to miss nothing how you doing today joe doing good brother debo doing good doing good man great game of football oh oh extremely extremely great game of football your type of ball oh my type of ball all day in america baby the texans beat the bills 23 to 19 man we got to go through this one right here man because i just i just i I just didn't see what happened happening. You feel me right there, baby? Neither did I. Houston, get out there, buddy.

2:23And I got to break this down for you because this is plays that was just going and going. Houston, get out there the first play. They go ahead and do a pass. You know what I'm saying? I think it was Stover. He drops the pass. The next play, they give it to Marks. He gets seven. And then on third down, they proceed to go empty and throw the ball. For what? For what? For what? I don't get it. I don't get it. They don't get it either. They end up punting. Early. Early, baby. Three and out on the first one. Buffalo get out there, man. And they do what Buffalo has been known for doing. You know what I'm saying?

3:03They going to head hitting that ball to Cooks. Cooks get that foe. What they say, that's a successful thing. You're supposed to get 40 % on the first, and then you get 60 % on the second. Staying ahead of the sticks. Staying ahead of the sticks, man. Allen, he gone ahead on the second down. He get pressured, though. You know, he gone ahead, get it to the tight end, and he knocked that thing. It looked like he had stepped out of bounds to me, even if he had caught it. I don't think it would have counted. Third down, I think they get, what was it, five of the six yards they needed. And they took away what was supposed to be an illegal man downfield.

3:43Are you allowed to do that? Like, go down and then come back? Like, that must be a thing, as long as he don't release the ball before, you know. Yeah, as long as he don't let the ball go. So, obviously, fourth and one, they do what they do. Quarterback gone ahead, Allen, big body, jump over the top. Dude, he jumped over and got almost three yards. That was crazy. Yes. That was crazy. I like that. That was crazy. First down, they stopped Cooks, though. They stuffed him up. He ain't hit nothing. And then I think that was the second down, what, Cooks looked like. It should have been what, like a two-yard loss, something like that.

4:22And then they went on ahead and blitzed Allen, and he reads that thing out, throws it right into the blitz with a swing pass to Johnson. They go on ahead, get 13 for the first time. Like the next one, the boy Knox just stiffed arm. What's zero's number, man? He just stiffed arm. him into the ground. That was a linebacker, wasn't it? Yes, it was. Nine yards, bro. Just stiff-armed him something stupid. Mm-hmm. Third and one. They get to that third and one. That man, Cooks. Dude, they had like nine people within five yards of the line, dude. I think the other two might have been within another five yards.

5:08Mm-hmm. He broke through that thing, dude. And next thing you know. House call. 35 yards. House call. I was like, ooh, this is supposed to be the number one defense. No, they had, like you said, they got stiff arm. That was probably their worst drive. Oh, no, by far. No, they had to tighten up. Kicker helped them, though. He went on ahead and missed the extra point. You know what I'm saying? And then Houston, they get a good return on the kickoff. I think they ended up starting at like the 41. First play, Chubb went for about seven. Second one, I think he went for about five. And then finally, Mills connects for a nice 10-yard that he just threaded that in there.

5:57Like, I thought he was going to the one dude, and he threaded it to Higgins on the back. Yeah, that was a good ball. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. That was a good ball. And then the next play, he just misses a dude. like how you just totally missed that one but second down he come Marks Marks did his thing now Marks was toting the ball too and he went he went 12 on that one immediately another first down later I think he went for like 19 did it again two explosive runs dude that DB didn't want none of 77 pulling up out of there though like that's when y 'all ain't allowed to cut this is the decision ain't cut Can't cut.

6:38Can't get down there. It's first and goal, dude. I think it was on the sixth. They run it on the first down. And then your boy Mills proceeds to miss on the second down. Like, that was something. They could have got a little closer. And then on the third down, he makes a great throw, but the receiver can't hold on to it. He was worried. My man Kirk was worried about getting the feet in. Instead, you got to catch the ball first, and then you're going to drag. Like, your feet going dead that second leg. You put the first one in, catch the ball. Yes. Yes, dude. Now you got to settle for three. It's three to six.

7:15And then Buffalo, like, they start, what was it, like, at their 12 because they got a holding penalty on the kickoff return. And, again, they stay in the head of the sticks. The first down, I think, Cook's got, what, maybe five. But if he hadn't tripped, bro. It was going to be six. Yeah, that might have been another one they was sitting there on. Then that second down, I think it was, what's dude's name? Shakir? Yes. Shakir, dude. He lost two. Like them boys were flying to the wall. That's what I'm saying. After that first drive, they was making a lot of plays. You know what I'm saying? Houston's defense.

7:59That second, the D-line attacking in the secondary catching tackles. Yeah. And third down, Allen, well, it would have been a sack if he hadn't pushed him forward. But he hits him, dude. And I see Allen doing the kick, fumble, everything on the ground. I'm thinking he might be up out of the game, bro. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know what it was, his wrist, something. He got sick. Yeah. Yeah. He pops up, though. They end up having to punt it. They give it back to Houston. And Chubb, I think he ends up getting the ball on the first down. He didn't get too much. But, again, on the second down, dude, it was like he's missing wide open receivers, dude.

8:41Yeah. He left a lot of points on the field. Well, the touchdown wasn't his fault, but then this one on the third down, on the third and six, he's wide open. He's wide open. You just got to get that ball in his hands. Yeah, that third down is what you're talking about where the receiver couldn't get his feet down. Yeah. He just couldn't. Like, you got to make that a little easier for him, dude. Yes, he's wide open. So they punt the ball. But, hey, man, they punt the ball. And the punter, man, he dropped that thing like Tiger Woods used to, man. I don't know how he got that ball to turn like it did.

9:14Mm-hmm. Bro, they dropped it down. I think it was, what, inside the five or at the five? Man. Yep. Buffalo get the ball. And, um. Yeah. I think it was Allen on that second down, hit Davis for like 22. Next, Cooks went on ahead, stayed ahead of the sticks. Cooks had some yards too, dude. No, yeah, for sure. Yeah. He did, he did. They were, he was running the ball really well. Oh, yeah, for sure. And then second down, Allen booted out for the tight end for eight. And then I think it was Cooks again, like vision. crazy. Cut it all the way back against the grain. He got 13 on that one. And they end up getting them down to like a fourth and one or two, something like that.

10:08And Allen hits Johnson for 23. 23, boy. First down though, they went off. Dude, who was the D in? 98? The D tackle? Bro, he smacked the old boy. Got through there. Smack, though, boy, it was, what, a loss of two on that one? On first down. Dude, the next play, here go that man, Anderson. Will Anderson. They lose 10 on that one. They was able to go ahead on third down, force him into a bad play. They was able to hold him to a field goal. So now it's six to, no, sorry, it's three to nine now. Nine to three. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and then Mills comes out on the first down and finally connects on there to, I think it was Collins.

10:59Yeah, it was Collins. 24, 25, something like that, brother. And, dude, he was finishing on them runs, though. He was trying to destroy them DBs, dude. No, he was. Dude, he was trying to destroy them DBs. Next play, Mills goes and scrambles for, I think it was only like four or five, but they give him face masks. face mask, add another, what was it, 15 on top of it. And then they go and do a receiver, like reverse around. He went to go get it. Dude, listen, he got fired on though. He did. He got eight. He did get fired on. He did get fired on. Too sweet fired on Jesse right there. Houston's out there, but this is what I love.

11:43Houston's out there smacking. They trying to fire on everybody. They're hunting. You know what I'm saying? They said they was out there hunting and they look like it. Dude, that's number one. Dude, they big game hunting. They big game hunting. I love it. Number one, number two offense in the league, they big game hunting. And then immediately on the second down, your boy, he throws it short. Like, I'm like, yo, there's no way he can – like, this go get seriously uncomfortable because you got to have the defense like out there all day, every day with what he's doing over here. They already playing.

12:17They get to that fourth and one, and that boy Marks takes lemons, dude, and makes lemonade, dude. Dropping it on him, bro. Dragging old boy. Like dragging what he ended up picking up, like six, which should have been a loss of at least one or two. That's the effort. Dude, and then the next play, Mills again, short. Like hit the defender in his back. Dude had turned around. He had one. All he had to do was look. He was, but look, well, you know, when you're not, he not in the position yet. So he was still felt like he was in trail. Cause if he would have threw a good ball, it would have been a tug.

12:55So DB is playing. That's why he didn't look back. If you're not in the position to look back, then the ball would have landed right over his head. If it was a good thrown ball, he's playing. Like he's going to drop a dime, not expecting the ball. Gonna hit him, be under thrown, hit him in the back of the head. So good job by the DB not to start looking back early. Cause if he would have dimed it, like play through his hands. You know what I'm saying? You're not in position. Back yet. Right. Right. Like, I got, yeah, for sure, for sure. Second down, they get an incomplete, but they get an illegal contact.

13:20That gives them the first down. It would have turned into, what, a third and 10 right there? Yep. And then, yo, why is you trying a receiver pass, bro? Y 'all are running the ball effectively. You're doing well. You're trying to be too smart for your own good. Like, you're trying to trick yourself. Like, no, make him stop at first before you start trying to trick him. I don't know how he was able to scramble for that for nine, but he did it, dude. He did what he had. He finagled. He made lemonade. Yeah, he finagled. Yeah, and then I believe it was like third and one. I'm thinking, you know, they about to settle for three again.

13:55They, what is it, 30th ranked in the red zone? Mm-hmm. But Mark said, nah, let me go ahead. Let me go ahead and do this, man. And then they get stopped on that first down. Immediately line back up. Looked like they about to run the same play. Them boys suck into that play action. Ah, bad eyes. Dude, and Kurt is wide open for the touchdown, bro. Yep. Wide open for the touchdown. Now they up. They up 10 to what? 10 to 9? Yes, sir. But I think it was the missed field goal that made it 10 to 9. Yes. It would have been 10-10. It would have been 10-10. Yeah. Yeah, Buffalo, it was the first play, wasn't it?

14:44The linebacker ended up dropping back, getting that good little – well, he should have picked that, though. No, it was a little high. That was a good tip. Bro, he had that in his hands. He cliff-palled it to his man. If he couldn't catch it, it was kind of high. Tip drill. Tip drill. Tip drill. As long as it don't hit the ground, we good. Yeah, for sure. He tips it to DB, go ahead, pick it up to the house. Went stupid with it. I love that. He had vision to score. Yeah, but they did block in the back, get it sent back. Buffalo got lucky on that one. Houston come out there, and they don't do nothing with it.

15:27They're able to hold them, and they have to settle for a field goal. That's a switch right there. That's the moralizing. You got great field position. You actually scored. No question. No question, dude. It's 13-9. You still up. And, you know, you still up. Yeah, you still feeling good. You still feeling good until you kick the damn ball off. You ain't lying. But, Debo, Debo, how about that return, though? Did you see? Bro, that spin. That spin. Because he was about to run into getting smacked. And, you know, right before collision, buddy probably closed his eyes. Closed his eyes. Closed his eyes.

16:05100%. 100 % right before impact. He's ready. He's like, boom. He hits Buddy and spins, and he wasn't even really ready to spin. He was kind of, I think the return was embracing for impact. Momentum. It was like momentum of a just, yep. Momentum kept him going, so that was just, like, unfortunate for them dudes. And then into the natural dead leg of the one-on-one on the kicker, he had no chance. Nothing. And he just took it to the crib. Man, he ain't have a chance. You go from, what, up by four to now you down by three. Yes. And you ain't even get to touch the field as a defense, dude. That hurts, dude.

16:41That sucked. That hurts. I'm like, yo, this is going to be one of them games where you play your butt off and you don't come away with it, dude. Literally, your defense is balling. They scored one touchdown on you guys, and they missed the extra point. You know what I'm saying? Now you're going in and down because special teams? Right. I'm not going to be sick. Dude, Houston came out there and took a surprise, buddy. Come on. It was only a minute 39 left, buddy. Yeah. And they answered right before half. They go six plays, 75 yards for a touchdown. And on top of that, that man Mills, he makes up for missing the throws for the previous.

17:28Oh, 1 ,000%. For the previous half, dude. 1 ,000%. They were 5-6, 75. All pass plays. All pass plays, dude. They didn't run the ball not one time. Mm-hmm. 2016 at half. Yes. I'm like, okay, all the defense got to do is what they've been doing, buddy. Buffalo come out there. I think they're able to convert, like, maybe it was one third down. Well, sorry, one first down. One first down. One first down. and then Houston locked in. I think the next first, they pressured Allen. He ended up for like scrambling for two yards. They go ahead and sit Cooks down on this next play. He only get two. And then, dude, I ain't never seen nobody lose that many yards on the sack.

18:2018, my brother. Burn down, bro. This man was 18, bro. Scrambling. My man fell down on the ground. We got to get up, run back. He trying to reverse. Did you see how many times 76 was trying to get a back block so he didn't get, you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, you can't crack back. Yes, yes. You know what I'm saying? He kept on trying to shield them off. He was playing like boxing them out. Bruh, man. And then, you know, they end up having to punt or whatever. So Houston gets the ball and they proceed to go penalty, penalty, penalty. They get illegal man downfield. Next, they get a holding.

19:00And then the third down, like, they declined, I think, what was it, a holding penalty or was it another illegal man downfield. Buffalo ended up declining because they didn't make the first anyway. Yeah. It was just bad. It was real bad ball. You couldn't even get the plays. You didn't know. I was like, they didn't run a play. Every play was a flag. Right. They punt the ball back to Buffalo. And I don't know what Shakira, I don't know what he was thinking, dude. Like he was backing up. Running backwards. Running back. And then on top of that, they got a home penalty. Yeah. Dude, so that. This is Tony A.O.

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22:55Mm-hmm. They go three and out. I don't know. when you on that fourth down, buddy, and you about to go for that punt fake, what made them think they can move the whole offensive line? I don't know. Like, you can't do that. That's why they got the flag, because the offensive line. Yeah. They called him for false start. You exploded the whole He ran up behind him, and then everybody moved. The whole line just shifted. Like, you can't do that. Y 'all set already. Like, you sitting here. I don't know. They didn't. Ain't no way they practiced. They had to practice that in practice. They had to practice.

23:35Somebody say, hey, that might not be illegal. I don't think that's going to work, coach. Like, I don't know. Yeah, that was not good. That turned into fourth and seven. No question, dude. They got to punt the rock. Buffalo get the rock back. And third down. But then even though when they get the ball back, my man Fair catches the ball on the six-yard line again. Hey. I'm just looking like just let it make them have to catch the ball there it's gonna be bumped in the end zone keep your heels on the 10 or like do something you're just fielding yourself in bad position like this boop like after you there like you gotta take the chance and hell how much more you gonna lose you know what I'm saying like you gotta see what happened you know what I'm saying like let it go see what happens yes let it go bro third down Shakir, that's it.

24:28Yeah, I think Shakir. He fumbles. Houston recovers. Now, great play. Great play. Great play. Another great play. Houston gets the ball back. I think they're like at the, what, 20, almost inside the 20, somewhere around there. And I believe they end up getting, you know, 11 maybe or something like that on a first and 10 or something like that. So now they have whatever it is they have. But, again, they have to settle for a field goal. They get a delayed game penalty. Like, how you let that happen and you right there? Somebody got to call time. Even the sideline. I know. I know. Like, it's not the defense is putting you in so many favorable positions.

25:19You should be blowing the bills out. Right. Like, they shouldn't even be this close right now, bro. I'm with you. Like, there's no way they should be as close as they are right now. Like, anyway, brother. They go ahead and now it's, what is it? What's the score then? 23-16. They get a 26-yard field goal. Right, right, right. It's 23-16 now. Buffalo come back out there and the defense jump on his neck immediately. they sack him on first down yes yo and then my guy now we going into the pool Anderson on the third quarter on the third down in third and 13 he go ahead and get rid of it oh the only time he messes up he let Josh scramble out of that thing for 14 because he lost contain you gotta tell the DN if you gonna go in you gotta stay out you know what I'm saying they were doing a great job the whole time contain the island because the DN You got to keep your lanes.

26:21He can't escape if he can't get through the middle. And on the outside, y 'all dudes, Hunter and Junior, y 'all are right there. There's nowhere to go. But as soon as you get the, ah, your first time, and that's the only thing. And, like, I'm never bashing Will, but just letting him know, it was 3rd to 13. And the only reason why he got away was because I was like, no, don't go in there. Yes, don't go in there. Don't go in there. Don't go in there. He come up out of that thing. I think at preceding second down, Cooks went for like 20. And then finally, Houston locks it down. I think they ran like four plays in a row on that one.

27:00And on that fourth and one. Cooks run. Cooks gets three on first down. Cooks gets five on second down. And then on third down, he gets one. So we get a fourth and one. Dude, fourth and one. They went on ahead. They pushed the whole line back. He lost two yards. They turn it over on downs right there in the red zone. Did you see how hype the defense was? Did you see how the corner, everything is something dirty to your job. You're not going to make the play. But he ran in there and smacked the fullback, like just met him. So there's no bouncing. There's nowhere you can go. That's how defense is.

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27:35Every play is not for you, but something is going to be dirty to your job. And he was hype. Like when he smacked them, he knew he didn't make the play, but it set up everybody else to fill up their gaps and send them back. Exactly. Two y 'all lost. He was turned. Every man do your job. Every man do your job, and you're going to win. It's going to turn out how it needs to turn out. That play with the coach's hype, that joint just sights me. That play made me hype. Oh, no question. You got a young coach, too, now. Come on, man. Hey, Houston, get out there, and you know what they do. Three and out.

28:05Not a damn thing. Not a damn thing. Not a damn thing, dude. That boy Allen, though, he get back out there on that second down. Buffalo get back out there. Hey, no. Sit your ass down. Sacks. Sacks. Next play, though. Will almost stripped him. After that sack, though, they got that boy Sharif, I think, went for like 44. Yeah. Then Allen again, sack. Again. Hey, every man whoop a man. That's what they was doing. Every man whoop a man. Man. Dude, on the third down, they almost sacked him in. He just was able to throw it away into the back of the offensive line. Into the back of the offensive line.

28:49It almost looked like grounding to me. Well, he had a dude in front of you. He had a dude running on crack ground. Okay, I feel you. Yeah. Yeah. I seen him late. I seen him late. Yeah, I was with you, too. I'm like, where are you? Where are you doing? I saw him and he showed the other view, and I'm like, oh, he was like, Oh, okay. But he right there. Yeah, yeah. So they ended up selling for a field goal. It's 19-23, dude. Yes, sir. Hey, man. Houston get out there. First down. Bam. Mills hits Higgins for what was it? 16? 16-yard completion. That's it, though. Toe tap on the sideline. Just sweet.

29:22That's it. That's it. Buffalo stiffened up. Made them punt. And now, Buffalo get the ball back with two 48 left, bro. Yes, sir. 17-yard line. It is no way I'm happy in this situation. Even though we have sacked the draws off this boy, I am not happy in this situation. They go out there, bro, on that second and 10. At the 47, bro, they sack him for 10, okay? Mm-hmm. The next play on the third down, they sack him for seven. That's eight sacks, bro. Yes, yes, yes, yes. He could have been nine with the one that they, you know, he pushed him forward. He hit him forward in the back, and he gained a yard, they said, for sure.

30:07It is fourth and 27. It ain't no way. I'm like, this is over with, bro. This is over with. Game time. And, dude, here's the crazy thing. When I saw dude catch the ball and I seen old dude coming towards him, I'm like, dude, it's hook and ladder. It's coming. It's hook and ladder. It's coming. You can see it, like, from a mile away. A mile away. Bro, and they pick up the hole first plus more. Plus more. That hook and ladder was ran clean as hell, though, D-Bow. And then the next play, Allen throws the ball down there. They lucky dude didn't have a little bit more room because he caught that, but he couldn't get both of them feet down.

30:47Yeah, but that was a fade. That would have been at the two. That was good defense, too. That was good defense. It was a good position, good catch. One foot in, one foot out. Yeah, dude, that would have been at the two if they was able to do that, dude. Man, I would have been ready to lose my mind, bro. And then they get to the fourth and one, and they get a false start, brother. Like, you get a fourth and one, you get a false start. Now they kick y 'all back five. I think by now they had the Houston, like 20, 25, somewhere around there. They was at the 17, five. Y 'all said it, 22-yard line. Okay.

31:23And then they pressure Allen again. He can't step through on that thing. He throws it short, and he gets picked off. Game over. Yep. Yep. Yep. And on top of it, they got an OPI anyway. Right. Right. And everybody was, they talking about, you know, defense. No, they like, no, that's offense. No, that's offense. Buddy ran over there and smacked him. Buddy ran over there and cleaned him off so he could run free. Boom. Dude, you know how bad that would have hurt them if they had actually caught that pass and then they had that happen? Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, for sure. But then I still would have been nervous because, like, they go drop him back.

32:02I mean, I just seen this man complete a 4th and 27. For sure, for sure. You know what I'm saying? Yes. With Josh Allen, you never know. Man. Houston, yo. At one point, Cleveland was the number one defense, okay? Houston is currently the number one defense, Joe. Now, see, Joe, that's what a number one defense looks like, And that's how you operate. You make the plays when it counts. Oh, Debo. Yeah. Allen was sacked eight times, bro. More than he's ever been sacked in one game in his career. It could have been nine. Like I said, it could have been nine. The four-man rush was terrorizing them. They got hit when they blitzed.

32:46That was the crazy thing, dude. They got hit when they blitzed. Anderson and Hunter just terrorized Allen all night, dude. Yep. Which helped to the what? two interceptions and a fumble that they recovered. Mm-hmm. Bruh. That turnover on downs in the red zone, the red zone turnover, they ain't getting nothing from that. Like, that was an opportunity where they could have had another three or six or seven, whatever it may be. Mm-hmm. Houston made plays when it counted in situational football. That is what number one defenses do. Buffalo had nothing to do They could not protect that man last night to save anything.

33:32Yeah, Debo, what you're saying is absolutely correct. The defensive line was just on them every time. It only took four. Right. Hunter, and the thing was with Stingley in the secondary. They're real sticky. There was nobody really running scot-free. The biggest plays they had was Will Anderson. saying, if he wouldn't have lost contain on that third down, and then when Shakir caught that swing pass that he made two people miss in the open field, if they just eliminate those plays, there's like nothing really there. Because the D-line is going to get there. The secondary is sticky. They make plays.

34:11They own people. So the main thing is with them is Houston on offense. Are they going to be able to score those touchdowns? I think when CJ Stroud gets back, it's going to be really, really big for him because you got a great defense like this. We got, you got Nico Collins. You have some good, some good pieces on offense. You have a Christian Kirk, somebody who's plays like, I think in the red zone, just a red zone efficiency. Don't turn the ball over, be able to score touchdowns instead of field goals. The future looks bright because that defense, they're out there. They're hunting. They look hungry.

34:42They look happy to be able to hit people. You know what I'm saying? Like when Hunter and them are talking about rushing the passer, that just looks like, That doesn't look like it travels. That defense travels. It's number one for a reason in yards and points allowed. Dude, they're number one in total defense. They're number one in points. They're second in takeaways. They're second in turnover margin. They're third in third down percentage. They're third in pass defense and fourth in rush defense, dude. It ain't nothing that they don't do well. Like, when you have all that, all I need my offense to do is give me 17 points, control the ball, and don't turn it over.

35:23Dude, it's easy from there. It looked good. It looked good. It was with the backup quarterback. He missed a couple of passes, but then at the same time, he was able to get them down there when they needed to score. Right. He answered, dude. They answered when it counted. They answered. They went on ahead. No, we ain't going to go down here or down. Minute 38, he went on out there and took them on the touchdown drive. That was huge. All on his arm. All on him. He didn't run a block. Not one time, bro. Not one time, Debo. That's what you need, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, that was nice.

35:56That was nice. Offense answering when you need them. Defense going down there and punishing, dude. Putting pressure on the quarterback. It's exactly what we going to need when the Steelers face the Bears this week, dude. All right? And I'm talking to the defense, dude. You know, I put everything on the defense. You do. You do. Because I'm a defensive guy, Joe. I know. I know. Because I'm a defensive guy. Our job is to stop you from scoring. If we do our job, then we win. Period. Yes. You are correct. The defense has to continue what they've been doing and build and get better than they were the previous week, the next week, and so on and so on week after week.

36:40We have to stop the run and make Chicago one dimensional, make them have to pass the ball. We do that. We can get them into third and long situations, though, and get after Caleb. Like if we're able to do that, you know, and we create these opportunities, then we now create opportunities to get turnovers because we need turnovers. We have to give our offense more opportunities on the field because we don't execute well on a continuous basis. On the offensive side. Right. On the offensive side. And when you look at it, you know, Chicago's offense, dude, like, they're number four total offense in the NFL.

37:29They're number two in rushing. Like, dude, they have Swift and the other dude, both of them dudes almost averaging like 4-8 a rush. Per total. And then you add, you know, Caleb in there with his scrambling. I think just from, you know, his scrambling, it's not designed total runs for him. Like, he's fifth, I think, rushing quarterback in the NFL. And that's only behind Lamar, Allen, Hurts, and Daniels. Dang it. So, yes, dude, if we do not stop the run, we're going to be in for a long road. And the offense, dude, they have to take advantage of Chicago's defense. They're a 27th-ranked defense, and they're 25th in the rush, dude.

38:20Now, here's the issue, though. Yes, what's the issue? the issue is they're number one in interception rating that's why we have to run the ball effectively because we can't get into situations where we're behind the chains and we have to pass the ball on top of that they're number two in third down percentage so they know what to do on third downs when they money downs we can't be behind the chains as an offense not doing things effectively and having to rely on the pass game. Therefore, that's why it's critically important that our defense shut them down so that they cannot score points like the offense.

39:06We cannot turn the ball over. We need to stay ahead of the chain. So we have favorable down and distance situations that second and six or that third and three and four, whatever that is, we have to have that effectiveness or success rate, as they say it, when we get out there as an offense. Yep. I'm with you. I think for show, for show, we need to have Mount Washington playing out in the game big time. I think his, him being able to help in the run game, run blocking, and then being able to, in the pass game also, you don't know if you're going to run or pass me, he's there because we could run behind him because he's 300 he's gonna block and we could play action and be able to pass so I think being able to use Washington being able to stay ahead of the sticks like you're saying using game well if we could just get the ball into their hands early but by staying ahead I know we need to run for sure but we have to run we have to we have to run but I'm just saying making sure we stay ahead of the sticks and not turning the ball over um on defense like you said Debo we cannot let Swift start toting the ball on us.

40:12They can't get ahead of the sticks. And we need to be opportunistic because when we get in those third down and long situations where TJ Watt can get the strip sacks, where Highsmith, where Nick Burfick, where they can just come strip the quarterback, be able to get after him, contain lanes too. We don't need to be able to like just trying to beat you, not individual. We need to rush as a team. Defensive line, the front line, D tackles, y 'all stay in y 'all's lanes. D ends, be able to come and flush them forward. So he's not being able to escape. Not only stay in your lane, dude, don't get pushed off the ball.

40:43No, no, for sure. You cannot get pushed off the ball, dude. I don't care if you double-team. Grab grass. Drop down. If you don't do, just fall to the ground. Make a pile if you can't do nothing else. You can't get pushed back three, four yards. That's a vertical hole. No, no, a thousand percent. A thousand percent. We can't do that. And it looks like we may not even, you know, have Aaron. He looks like he broke or fractured some type of bone in his wrist. And, you know, he's saying, you know, if he's able to protect himself, he's going to play. He was out of practice. He was wearing a wrist stabilizer.

41:18And he took, you know, some snaps and reps from gun. But you think he'll play Sunday? If he's able to play, do you think he'll play even if he's not able to play? or would you just prefer to see, you know, Rudolph, you know, get out there? Who would you want to see? I don't want A-Rod to get – I want him to be able to protect himself because it is on his non-throwing hand. And if you do ball – I know about having the broken fingers. You can't protect your head from going down to the ground. You're afraid. So you can – And it ain't about you not being able to. You're going to go throw that wrist out, dude, to protect yourself from hitting the ground.

41:57And now it may not be – no longer be a fracture. It may be a total break. I don't I don't think is smart for him to actually play. I believe that we can can beat this team as long as Mason can go out there and be effective and we can actually run the ball and get them to where they are now, you know, Lighten up on some of the play action things so we can get deep balls and be efficient in hitting the, you know, the short routes. Getting and then creating, you know, yeah, we got to get yards after the catch. Like you said, Darnell Washington, that boy 311. You're trying to tackle offensive linemen.

42:39A thousand percent. Got to throw out stiff arms and trying to hurdle you. Doing all that. All that. As the size of a right tackle. Yes. So I think it's going to be big for Mason Rudolph. I think Mason Rudolph can do it. You know what I'm saying? He showed us a lot of times. He's been a starting quarterback. And I think he just knows what he has to come in there and do his job. He knows this. I like Mason's deep ball. I like when he can throw the bang eights. If we can get the run game going, you know what I'm saying, he can be able to hit DK on some of those passes. And I like Mason. I like the way he throws the ball.

43:12So just being able to go protect it, knowing what he's got to go do. He's not trying to go out there. No, they're not putting the team on him. You don't got to go win it. We're not putting the whole thing on your back. We just ask you to go down there and maintain the ship. Just keep us afloat. Keep it going. Don't do nothing crazy, but just play winning football. If it ain't there, man, throw it away. Throw it away. If the dump is there, dump it. If it's not and you can't go ahead, you got to take a sack. Don't do anything that's going to give them the ability to get extra possessions, and we're giving away possessions.

43:49We can't, especially when it's going to give them short fields or takes away opportunities where we could have scored points. He had three drives last week and we scored two touchdowns and got a field goal on another one. We could have scored three touchdowns on all three of them. So just do what you're doing. You know what I'm saying? What I've seen last week, if I'm going from previous, just do that. You know what I'm saying? You got a week of practice. I know he's preparing like he's going to be able to be out there. So even that. This is Tony A.O. from The Real Report with Tony A.O. and Uncle Murda.

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47:20Browns quarterbacks are 0-17 in their first career starts since the team's joint NFL. Yep. What do you expect to see and what do you say they need or Shador needs to do to make sure that the Browns come away with a victory? Because for me, you know, I don't know. Well, it's reports out there that Joe Flacco before he left said, you know, he was upset that they wasn't opening up the playbook. They wasn't throwing the ball down the field, you know, because, you know, the offensive coordinator didn't you know that's not what he wanted to do so now this kind of puts me in a situation of if that's something that wasn't uh part of the plan then what we're dealing with with gabriel we may end up dealing with with shador or is it going to be a situation where where we see Shador actually taking the shots down the field, or, you know, I'm just kind of thinking like we might have jumped the gun on, you know, Gabriel being a dump-down passer.

48:39You tell me. I would say— Hold up. And something else, bro. You're playing the Raiders. Yes. If your defense does what your defense is supposed to do, So it's no way Shador can lose this game unless he loses this game. Debo, you are saying what I was about to say. Best things, best case scenario, we're going against the Vegas Raiders. Okay? Shador, I'm not asking you, nobody's asking you to go out there and be a world beater. You know what I'm saying? We're just asking you to go in there and the simple throws. We need, we're not asking you to go, we need to run the ball. Our offensive line needs to make sure Junkins gets going.

49:24We need to stay ahead of the sticks. Just the same things that we're saying for like the Mason Rudolphs, the teams that have great defenses. You don't lose the games for those guys. You know what I'm saying? You don't put them in bad positions. They're going to go out there and ball out. You know what I'm saying? What you do is stay ahead of the sticks, hold the ball, convert on third down. You know what I'm saying? Don't turn the ball over. So with me and Shador, they need to go in, run the ball really well. So, Junkins, they need the offensive line, needs to protect them. Know that he's a young quarterback coming in.

49:50This is his first start. And not all – it's already pressure. It's a lot going on. But just like when we had Dylan Gabriel in there, and some third downs I would see that he would throw the ball into the ground, even if it's not to open the playbook. On third and sixth, when you have an out route, hit that out route. You know what I'm saying? To move the chains. If nothing's there, you know what I'm saying? Throw it away. You know what I'm saying? Just smart decisions. Not being out there trying to do too much, throwing interceptions, turning the ball over, hurting your team. Because you got a great, we have a great defense.

50:19Defense needs to go out there and perform. Try to create turnovers. Get you the ball back on their side of the field. You know what I'm saying? Like where you have short fields. When you get in the red zone, try to get touchdowns instead of interceptions. But if you don't, don't turn it over. Still be able to get three. You know what I'm saying? Like just do the simple things. Do the simple things right, and we're going to be able to see progress. And you're not losing the game. and on third and sixes when you're going to be able to hit that five and out. You know what I'm saying? Scramble maybe for a couple of first downs.

50:51Extend a couple of drives. You know what I'm saying? And then hit a couple of big passes. If you hit a 15-yard dig, you know what I'm saying, some out routes on time. 16 for 22. You know what I'm saying? 160, 170 yards, two touchdowns, and we win the game. Or one touchdown, no turnovers. You know what I'm saying? You scrambled a couple of times. so nobody's looking for you to be 30 for 30 for 35 yards three touchdowns no interceptions that's not what we're asking from you that's not that would be amazing you know i'm saying but right for you to go out there and just be a consistent quarterback could be able to just not turn the ball over hit simple passes that we need and not just be air mailing stuff throwing stuff in the traffic you know i'm saying like those turnovers that you had don't turn the ball over because we have a great defense.

51:37Eat that. You know what I'm saying? Something just jumped in my head, Joe. But do you know what I'm saying? Listen, man. Something just jumped in my head, man. Listen, man. It's disgusting, man. Don't say nothing bad. Miles Garrett is about to play the Raiders, bro. Yeah, he's going for the record. He might get it this game. Oh, Lord. Is that what you were thinking about? Oh, my God. Oh, my God, bro. Lord. Lord. And on top of that, Miles could get the record and Shadeau could break the record. He could be the first quarterback that gets a win in his first career start since the Browns rejoined the NFL.

52:18Yeah. Whew. Hey, Joe, I'm going to have to watch this one, Joe. You got to, Debo. You got to be dialed in. And Viva. What? And Viva Las Vegas. I got to watch it. I think Chadeau going to be able to do it. I hope because the Browns defense going to come along and then we just had that offense do what I said. What the odds is, I'm dropping 50 ,000 on Chadeau. Oh, man. And get his first career start win and break the record, the curse of the Cleveland Browns since they rejoined the NFL for the first time starting quarterbacks. That'll be sick. I got to put 50 ,000 on it. You a liar. You a liar. I'm going to thank you at advance, okay?

53:06Still has got the one o 'clock. Y 'all got the four. I'm going to thank you in advance. Hey, bro. I appreciate that, Debo. I like that energy. Hey, Shado, if you don't do it, brother, I'm going to have to come see you, though. I'm going to have to come see you if you don't do that. I'm going to need half that back. Debo's chilling. That's that pressure. That's that real pressure. That's that Debo pressure. Speaking of, you know, speaking of a little bit of pressure, man. So, CeeDee Lamb confirmed the rumors that, you know, he and George Pickens had been out past curfew after having dinner and drinks at the Red Rock Casino in Vegas.

53:43Okay? Okay. Now, they were benched for the first couple series. I thought, I think it was supposed to be for the whole game, but things started getting started. I think the boys was benched for the first series, bro. It was just one. It was the first two. It was the first two. Are you sure? I'm positive, bro. I'm positive. Because I think that was when they ended up getting a field goal. Okay. And then they brought it back in. I think they were trying to sit him down for the whole game, but things got hectic. You know, but he said, hey, I'm shooting down any claims that, you know, I had been seeing throwing up at 730 a.m.

54:23he said you know such claims were offensive to him because he can hold down his liquor dude what should have been offensive is that you was actually out drinking before the game like and miss past curfew that's crazy you know yeah i know it's vegas bro it's it's yeah you could go back and you can go back and you know you go back in the off season if you really want to get some Vegas in, brother. No, for sure. For sure. I mean, yeah. You ever had anybody that, you know, went on ahead and got it in? Man, look. A lot of game, missed curfew. Debo, Debo, Debo. You are, I mean, you are hilarious because, yes, I had plenty teammates.

55:09I was teammates with my good man, young Johnny, that had a game, and he flew to Vegas before a game. You know what I'm saying? They had a little... So, yeah, I got plenty of teammates that did some wild things, you know. That's it? You got any more? What you mean? I'm just asking. I don't know. I'm just asking. Yeah, yeah. I got some more, but I'm not here to dry snitch. Johnny already told on himself, so I feel comfortable. Man, that's my little man. So, the story's already out there. Anybody else? I was just saying, you know, because we run an honest podcast, you know what I'm saying? Oh, no, for sure, for sure.

55:41Transparency. I don't want to be too transparent, though. You know what I'm saying? Before game day, game day was never, no. I'm never missing nothing. I'm not doing nothing before game day. Chilling. Oh, yeah. Chilling. During the week, sometimes when I was on the younger side, like you said, I might have stepped out, you know, might have been a little late to work. Oh, gang, wrestling in. Woke up. I ain't going to lie, bro. I'm a little late. I was too scared. I was too scared to do anything. Because, you know, you came in drafted, bro. I came in. Debo. That's why. I came in as a package deal because they needed an extra body.

56:12You know what I'm saying? You can't be able to buy one, get one. That's crazy. The boys used to cut me like they cut checks. You know what I'm saying? Deebo, you ain't lying. I did have a little extra wiggle room because I was like, yeah, Joe, you going to be here for a while. Dude, money. Speaking of money, man, James Winston says he regrets letting his family and friends spend$400 a month. $400 a month? Joe, have you ever heard of anybody letting anybody spend that much money on their family or friend? 4, 8, 12, 16. Oh my. 1.6 every 4 months. How long? But how many months was it? Bruh. Listen.

56:57That's crazy. Bruh, listen. That's crazy. 400 a month? You don't know what you don't know, But, yeah, just telling them, like, no, you can't. What people don't realize is this NFL thing and, like, this money, it's not going to last. NFL stands for not for long. If Jameis Wilson had$5 million, Jameis Wilson touched$2.5 million. So that five isn't two and a half. And then you have to live for the rest of your life. That's the thing. Everything costs. Everything costs. The window like this. The window. But you trying to spread it to this. you got that. And here's the thing to young guys to young guys that don't see the end prepare as if every day could be the end dude.

57:50Because the average NFL career is what three and a half years. I think three years. Like it is it's not going to be long if you're average. Some people are fortunate enough such as you and I to get longer careers going. but you cannot let that money just run through your fingers dude because you have it and the biggest issue with guys is they don't see it coming to an end and they don't see it coming to an end until it's already there and now they're like oh man i gotta do this i gotta do that i gotta take care of my body i gotta do whatever i need to do to get back healthy and nine times out of 10, they hurt something and they can't get back to where they were.

58:37And now it's somebody else in there that's younger, that's faster, that's stronger, that's cheaper. And they're running off with what it was that you had, but didn't take advantage of it because you were too busy living the high life, spending, flashing and all that. It's so, for kids, I mean, finally being able to make your dream, never having the money before, you got to realize, though, it's like this thing that you believe in now, it's your job. It's what you do. And this, you're hitting the lottery every single year. It could be gone before you know it. But telling the player that while you're in it, you think you're about to get your next deal.

59:21This contract is what it is. Like, no, I'm about to get the bag. That's how always everybody thinks. But you got to always think like, no matter what, if you're done, if you play a 10-year career, you get in when you're 21, 22 years old, you're 32, done out. And then you got - If you get 10 now, don't forget. This is long. This isn't even if you play on the long end, like me and you. If you only think, if you can only do four or three or two, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's just, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's something that people don't really think about. You think your career is going to last a long time and not the next year, I'm going to be able to stack it the next year.

59:53Right. I'm going to get a deal with this one. So I'm going to be able to do this stuff now. No. So once you get out after two years, after five years, after 10 years, when you can finally sit down and have all of that stacked, sitting in the bank and with whatever, whatever you were able to play with, you know what I'm saying? Being able to have that nugget or being able to set budgets for yourself, goals of knowing at the end of the year, I need to have this much in my account. Because at the end of, once it's all done, what can I have for me? What can I be able to walk away with? Because there's been dudes that always planning on, nah, the next year I'm going to be able to start stacking my, and then it's gone.

1:00:25So he's planning like this could be gone tomorrow, every year. So every dude has to make sure that they're stacking.

1:00:40Matter of fact, this is what I'll say. When you're playing, everybody wants to be around you. So all those business connections that you can make, instead of making the connections with Joe Blow that does this or that, Like make the connections with people who do investments, make the connection with people who own, you know, those multimillion dollar companies, corporations, billion dollar corporate, like make those connections. They want to be around you. Yes. Take advantage of these opportunities. They want to talk to you now. Are right then and there, because when you're when you're done, they don't care about it.

1:01:14They don't want to see they can't flaunt you in front of whoever or whatever or take pictures with you or sales with so and so. So like when you're in there, dude, use that. I think we're too busy trying to, you know, do whatever it is that we're trying to do when we're young. I was one of those guys, to be honest with you, I didn't even save money, dude. I didn't save money until I had my son, dude. And then I was like, oh, snap, I got to worry about somebody else other than myself. And that's really what started me to save and invest in and, you know, building the actual, you know, a life after football.

1:01:51So I was, I think I got drafted and I heard so many of the, you know, the horror stories because I was a highly drafted player, Debo, you know what I'm saying? So coming into a lot of money, you know what I'm saying? It was just something that wasn't, I wasn't normally used to. So at the beginning, I can say I definitely did a lot of the wrong things, but you got to go through trial and error. You know what I'm saying? You have family, you got friends, you got things that you got to be able to set boundaries. You know what I'm saying? You have getting married, having a family, knowing like this could all be gone.

1:02:21You know what I'm saying? You want to take care of people. But end of the day, once it's all done, you'll be looking at you crazy if you don't have anything left. You know what I'm saying? So being able to save and stack. So when you do retire, you can be able to live fruitfully and be able to take care of people and move how you want to and be and keep your sanity. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Hey, look here. they say uh le angelo ball revealed that he only tips what is it 10 20 on a 400 dollar meal he said that's how i rock we got we got the video i think i think we got the we got the video on that

1:02:57no we don't okay cool anyway that boy say that's how he rock how you tip bro 10 20 400 meal never d bro i'm i'm i'm a gracious tipper and i learned my parents we always, my parents are 20 % and that's basically how I do all the time. I'm a 20 % tipper and that's just, that's for bad. If it's good service, I might go 25, 30, you know what I'm saying? But like I really, I think that if somebody doing a good service and I'm getting really good, really good help, I'm a good tipper. I learned from my parents though. They always did that. so i'll tell you this so i'm like uh i'm like a a a 15 to 20 tipper okay and the reason i my big pet peeve is if i have water and my water go empty my water ain't full that's a problem for me so you only go get 15 to 20 percent now if i have somebody that's really tentative and really takes care of me, I'm going to take care of them.

1:03:59Depending on what the bill is, I may tip 100 % of the bill. And depending on where I'm at. then something else, especially if you get a good server, that's just what they is. You look around, it's not them just treating you that way. You see this table and that table and they're doing the same thing. I'm like, yo, that's a good server. So I want to make sure when I come in here, they see that reservation for James Harris. and say, hey, make sure you give me that server if they own me. And then on top of that, if they're not there, the server's going to be like, yo, so-and-so tips well, but you got to make sure you take care of them.

1:04:34You have to tip well, dude. It's not an option. You're going out. No matter what happens, you have to tip well. It's nothing worse than you as a server going and serving somebody. And then I don't care if the service is average, like, you still have to tip well. Like, nowhere should anybody get less than 18 to 20 % if they did their job effectively. Now, they go above and beyond. And it's just like, disrespected. Hey, and above and beyond, and they just, I ain't gonna even lie, dude. I think I said that one time, and I don't know if this server heard it somewhere, but, dude, I couldn't get a sip of water out of my glass, bruh, without him coming back and feeling that thing.

1:05:23Making sure who's on top. Yes. So you took care of him? Dude, no question, bro. I'm like, I had to do this one. No, I'm good. I don't need no more water, man. I ain't going to... No, for sure. I'm with you a thousand percent, Debo. Good tip. No matter what, like you said, 18 to 20, they're doing their job. They got a job to do, but I'm a thousand percent. Because I go by this. I normally divide it by four. or I divide it by five. Whatever the bill is, how much it costs, I divide it by four or five. So I know I'm going to get either 25 % or 20%. For sure, for sure. Look here, man. Joe, we hit 50 ,000 subscribers here on YouTube, bro.

1:06:10Let's go. All you guys for subscribing to us, watching us, man. We appreciate you, man. I ain't going to lie to you. I would have thought it would have been about 100 ,000, 150 ,000 by now. Your daddy, your uncle, your brother, your cousin, your sister, your niece, your nephew, everybody, man. Let them know what you're watching, what you're liking, because they're going to like it and love it too, man. You're having fun. You're watching it. We want them to have fun too. Tell somebody to tell somebody. Let's go, baby. Look here. Thank you guys for joining us again on this episode to Debo and Joe.

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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Thursday Night Football where Davis Mills and the Houston Texans upset Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. Later, they preview Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers matchup vs. Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears, preview Shedeur Sanders and the Cleveland Browns matchup vs. the Las Vegas Raiders , and much more news from Week 11 of the 2025 NFL season! 

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