In short
Live “Daycap” episode from Las Vegas Radio Row, mixing WWE/NXT talk with boxing coverage around Canelo vs. Crawford, plus promotional segments.
Guests (backgrounds)
- Shawn Michaels: WWE Hall of Famer; former multi-time champion; later transitioned into coaching/training at WWE’s Performance Center (Orlando).
- Triple H (Paul Levesque): WWE executive and head of NXT; built/developed NXT’s developmental pathway and Performance Center system.
- The Undertaker: Mentioned as part of the lineup (no substantive interview content included in the provided transcript).
- Stan Barrett: Fight-night broadcaster; previously with ESPN; moving/working on Twitch live sports/radio-style streaming.
- (Also present in host segment) Chad Ochocinco Johnson and Shannon Sharpe as hosts.
Key claims
- Michaels: Teaching is harder than performing; timing/“feel” can’t be fully taught—reps and patience help. He says he left wrestling on a “high note” after WrestleMania 25 vs. Undertaker, feeling peace afterward.
- Michaels: He wouldn’t change his career despite injuries; he’s now fulfilled by mentoring talent and changing wrestling culture to be more positive.
- Triple H: WWE created NXT because there was no clear pathway into pro wrestling; they recruit via colleges and NIL (“Next in Line”).
- Triple H: Wrestling is physically punishing year-round; “casualty rate is 100%” (everyone gets injured eventually). Charisma and storytelling can matter as much as athleticism.
- Stan Barrett: Twitch enables interactive live functionality for sports/radio shows.
Notable examples
- Michaels references Ric Flair and John Cena; Flair called Michaels the greatest.
- Michaels cites WrestleMania 25 (Undertaker) as his retirement turning point.
- Triple H discusses recruiting college/NIL talent and building a bigger Orlando Performance Center.
- Boxing prediction: Barrett expects the fight to hinge on whether Crawford can handle Canelo’s power and whether Canelo can handle Crawford’s southpaw/switching; slugfest favors Canelo, boxing match favors Crawford.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOShawn Michaels Joins the Show
1:30 to 2:18
Shannon and Chad welcome Shawn Michaels to discuss his career.
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Shawn Michaels Joins the Show
2:38 to 3:42
Shannon and Chad welcome Shawn Michaels to discuss his career.
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Shawn Michaels Joins the Show
4:28 to 5:38
Shannon and Chad welcome Shawn Michaels to discuss his career.
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Challenges of Coaching in Wrestling
5:38 to 9:50
Shawn discusses the transition from wrestling to coaching and the challenges involved.
“You play the game, but then trying to, I don't know, help coach it or teach it is not always an easy transition.”
The Evolution of Wrestling and Shawn's Journey
9:50 to 13:43
Shawn reflects on the evolution of wrestling and his journey in the sport.
“and knowing that nothing is going to happen easy.”
Legacy and Recognition in Wrestling
13:43 to 14:00
Shawn shares his feelings about being recognized as one of the greatest wrestlers.
“I've had many wrestlers and talked to many said the greatest wrestler ever is Shawn Michaels.”
Shawn Michaels: The Greatest Wrestler
14:00 to 16:42
Discover Shawn Michaels' thoughts on being called the greatest wrestler and his passion for wrestling.
“He says, there's no one close to Shawn Michaels.”
Finding Passion Beyond Wrestling
16:42 to 19:16
Shawn shares how he transitioned his passion for wrestling into mentoring younger talents.
“I have one question that always happens.”
The Toll of Wrestling on the Body
19:16 to 21:19
A candid discussion about the physical toll wrestling takes and the decision to continue despite the risks.
“You play the game of baseball, basketball long enough.”
When to Step Away: Shawn's Retirement
21:19 to 24:07
Shawn recounts the moment he knew it was time to retire from wrestling after a memorable match.
“back to where, I guess I'll say, at least for me, and I hope that comes across well, back to where it once was.”
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Finding Joy in Mentoring
24:07 to 25:41
Shawn discusses how mentoring brings him joy and fulfillment similar to performing in the ring.
“Even though you have peace, do you miss it?”
The Future of Wrestling: Javon Evans
25:41 to 26:35
Shawn identifies a young wrestler to watch, highlighting the future of WWE.
“Is there anybody that's currently wrestling, be it WWE, been an NXT?”
Anticipation for Canelo vs Crawford
28:01 to 31:22
Discussion about the buildup and significance of the Canelo vs Crawford fight.
“And we were here for eight days for that fight.”
Anticipation for Canelo vs Crawford
32:23 to 33:13
Discussion about the buildup and significance of the Canelo vs Crawford fight.
“In a special mini episode, we're talking about why open, honest conversations matter.”
Triple H Discusses WWE's Future
34:51 to 42:05
Triple H shares insights about WWE's future, training programs, and personal reflections on wrestling.
“all rights reserved good man how are you we're doing amazing thanks for having me on now we You hear there's like a, like, you got something big that you want to announce.”
Wrestling's Evolution and Personal Journeys
42:05 to 53:01
Discover the evolution of wrestling and how personal backgrounds shape career paths.
“You know, to me, I don't know, this is reference to my childhood, but to me I was much more Larry Bird than I was, right, anybody else.”
Wrestling's Evolution and Personal Journeys
54:35 to 55:21
Discover the evolution of wrestling and how personal backgrounds shape career paths.
“In a special mini episode, we're talking openly about sexual health, safer sex, HIV prevention, and why knowing your options matters for everybody.”
Wrestling's Evolution and Personal Journeys
55:55 to 56:26
Discover the evolution of wrestling and how personal backgrounds shape career paths.
Wrestling's Evolution and Personal Journeys
56:43 to 56:59
Discover the evolution of wrestling and how personal backgrounds shape career paths.
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The Evolution of WWE
56:59 to 1:00:40
Discover the transformation of WWE from a small promotion to a major entertainment powerhouse.
“I got more memes than I know what to do with, man.”
Journey to Wrestling
1:00:41 to 1:01:40
Explore the personal journeys of wrestlers from aspiring athletes to WWE superstars.
“And then wrestling kind of came back around.”
Teaching the Next Generation
1:01:41 to 1:04:51
Learn about the challenges and insights of teaching new wrestlers in a modern context.
“They got NXT where they got the training program.”
Mount Rushmore of Wrestling
1:04:52 to 1:07:31
Discuss the iconic figures in wrestling history and their impact on the industry.
“Luthez is an old-timer that could really wrestle.”
The Undertaker's Legacy
1:07:32 to 1:10:01
Understand the unique character of The Undertaker and his significance in wrestling.
“If he want to be alone, he can be alone.”
The Origin of the Undertaker
1:10:01 to 1:13:13
Learn about the creative process and impact of the Undertaker character.
“Yeah, I don't know that anybody's really honed in there, but we have a lot of young talent coming up, and it'll probably be debuting really soon because the machine, again, you've got to keep it fresh.”
Charlotte Flair's Wrestling Journey
1:13:14 to 1:15:59
Charlotte discusses her unexpected path into wrestling and overcoming challenges.
“And I sat down with Rick and I sat down with John Cena.”
The Evolution of Women's Wrestling
1:16:00 to 1:20:08
Charlotte reflects on the progress of women in wrestling and her father’s legacy.
“And also, if you were the best player, you were the best player.”
Balancing Wrestling and Family Aspirations
1:20:09 to 1:23:40
Discussion on the challenges of managing a wrestling career and personal life.
“He said, for me, I just work out, wrestle, on to the next.”
Charlotte Flair on Wrestling and Motherhood
1:24:00 to 1:29:40
Charlotte Flair discusses her wrestling career, future plans, and desire for a family.
“I mean, your dad, if your dad still had, if his body would hold up, your dad would still be wrestling.”
Transcript
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3:55Shannon Sharpe:Ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for Daycap. Seems like I just got off the radio just a little while ago, but we are back this morning. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite unk, Shannon Sharp. Here he is, my partner and co-host. He's Liberty City's own. He's Bengal Ring of Fame honoree. He's Madding's ratings adjuster. He's a former pro bowler, all pro. He's Chad Ochocinco Johnson Thank you guys Please make sure you hit that subscribe button Please make sure you hit the like button And do us all a favor Go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed Wherever you get your podcasts from I would like to thank each and every one of you That's listening, that's watching And by word of mouth Thank you for your support And your continued support Please make sure you check out Shade by LaPortier If you cannot find Shade by LaPortier In a city or state near you Best believe we're coming but order it online in the meantime.
4:46Shannon Sharpe:It is a premium BSOP cognac. It is the best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. If you've tried it, you know this. If you haven't, try it. You'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Please go follow my media company page on all of its platforms, Shea Shea Media and my clothing company, 84, with 84 being spelled out. That link is also pinned in the chat. We got a very jam-packed show for you this early this morning. We got Shawn Michaels joining us. He'll be our first guest up. We got Triple H joining us. We got The Undertaker joining us. We're going to try to get Bud's trainer, Bo Mack, to join us also.
5:23Shannon Sharpe:But this morning, the show is really wrestling heavy. We got a lot of heavyweights coming in. Many believe he's the greatest wrestler of all time, a many-time champion. Here he is joining the stage right now, the legendary Shawn Michaels. You want him to sit here? No, you go right there.
5:42it's a pleasure baby it's an honor how you doing bro i'm doing good good to see you how you been i am wonderful appreciate it
5:55Shannon Sharpe:so let me ask you this what's what's been one of your biggest challenges now you you've kind of transitioned running out nxt what's what's been the biggest transition for you uh tying a tie Putting on the suit looking like a corporate head. No, look, I will say this. I don't know. You guys know probably better than me. You play the game, but then trying to, I don't know, help coach it or teach it is not always an easy transition. When you're as great as you were, the patience that you need to have because things that probably came easy to you might not come easy to someone else. Well, thank you.
6:39I mean, first of all, but again, the same thing, right? And that was, I will say, that's been the most challenging part was some things, I don't know, I was given a gift. And when you're doing it and you're in the moment of it, you're not thinking about that. And then afterwards, so many things you go back and you try to teach and they ask you like, well, how this, how that, how did this happen? And it was just there. It was just there. But again, that's been the part where I've had to learn how to convey that in the best possible message that I can. And I was fortunate to be able to have some time as a trainer and a coach before I was in the role that I'm in now.
7:24And now, again, I'm able to meet them where they're at. Over the years, I've learned how to do that as understanding that not all of them are the same. And being able to, again, try to understand where they're at and not to be teaching for 10 years down the road. But meet them where they're at currently. And that's been the biggest help for me going forward. And again, one of the things that's also an advantage to us is we teach and then they move on. And so I at least get enough reps because you have a new group come in and you kind of have to sort of rinse and repeat, so to speak, with the exception of a small little detail things here and there.
8:10But for the most part, you end up covering the gambit and you at least get enough reps at it that it becomes a little bit easier the more you do it.
8:18Shannon Sharpe:And that's the biggest thing. When you talk to great, greats in any particular sport, any particular thing, what came easy is hard. Those that can do, those that can't teach, you did because you could do. Now how do you show patience, show grace, and says, what came so easy to Shawn Michael? What was a God-given gift? How do I convey that? Because they're asking you, well, how? You're like, I just did it. And now you got to like, well, you have to do it like this when no one really had to explain it to you. You just had that God-given gift. Well, again, that's where I go back to making them or doing my best to have them really define and delineate and detail what it is they're looking for and asking about.
9:09The hardest thing for us is a very natural feel. And also, as you gentlemen know, you almost can't teach timing. Right, correct. Timing is something that our business as yours sort of hangs on. Through reps, you can get close to it, but a lot of it is a feel and a timing thing. and trying to get them to understand that. And the biggest thing with that, because that may not always get perfectly in sync, but the closer they can get to it, the better chance they have. So a lot of it is teaching them patience in that respect and knowing that nothing is going to happen easy. But when everything is said and done, more reps is going to give you the better results.
10:02You're certainly not going to get worse if you're continuing to hit it time and time and time and time again. And again, that comes down to work ethic. And then when you get into the conversations of wanting to be great, as you guys know, a word that gets tossed around way too freely now. Yes, absolutely. And again, trying to really help them understand what it means to try and be that. It's one thing to say it. It's another thing to put into practice.
10:31Shannon Sharpe:It's become great. Did you always want to be a wrestler? Did you have any idea when you got started many, many years ago that wrestling would be what it's become? Or as we say in the South, wrestling. Did you have any idea? Because, you know, wrestling, and I know you know this, but a lot of people at home, wrestling, wrestling used to just be regional. You had the South. You had the Northeast. You had the Mid-Atlantic. That's where wrestling was. And then somehow Vince McMahon, he merged all this together. They had the NWA, and they merged all this together, and it became one. Did you want to be a wrestler?
11:08Shannon Sharpe:And when you started, did you have any idea it would take you to the places that it's taking you, and it would become what it's become? I'm 60. So when I started, it was Southwest Championship Wrestling. I knew at 12 years old. I saw it one time. I got to stay up late and all of a sudden this montage comes on again grainy again the production quality is But you don't know it at the time and it was the most Mesmerizing thing I had ever seen and I was like oh my goodness. That's it It was the perfect display of athleticism But theatrics and I just thought to myself That's what I want to do and I can remember telling my mom at 12 years old mama I'm going to be a pro wrestler when I grow up.
11:54That's nice, honey. But in my mind, by the time I was 19 and got an opportunity to do it, being the Southwest Heavyweight Champion and having a one-bedroom apartment and my own car was going to be the greatest thing in the world. Right. And in 1985, I had just started wrestling, And that was when Vince McMahon first began to go kind of global. Right. The first WrestleMania was in Madison Square Garden. I was wrestling in Oklahoma City while WrestleMania was being shown on closed circuit TV at the arena. Wow. But I was wrestling while that show was going on. And all we did was hear about it. We heard about it, but then you thought to yourself like, wow, that's cool.
12:49But at that time, all those guys in the territory were telling you he's going to ruin the business. He's going to kill it. He's ruining everything. Two years later, I'm in Minnesota wrestling, but we're on ESPN now. Wow. It was now on cable television. They're trying to compete with Vince. But now everybody knew that New York, New York was the place you wanted to be. So that's the time. Again, it was probably 1986 that you started realizing that what he's got going on there is big. But again, had no idea that it would become what it is now. So no, I was somebody that got into it. I guess to answer your question.
13:30Shannon Sharpe:You knew early on this is what I wanted to do. I knew this is what I wanted to do, but a one-bedroom apartment and my own car seemed like the greatest thing in the world. And now we have a life unlike I'd have never possibly imagined. I sat down with Ric Flair, 16-time champ, sat down with John Cena. We had Uso. I've had many wrestlers and talked to many said the greatest wrestler ever is Shawn Michaels. Ric Flair says your understanding of the moment and the timing and the theatrics of it, what goes into it, there's nobody even. I said, well, what about you? He says, there's no one close to Shawn Michaels.
14:12Shannon Sharpe:He's the greatest. He says, and that's no disrespect to Hogan. That's no disrespect to anyone, Dusty Rhodes, all those guys. There's no disrespect to them. He said, but Shawn Michaels is the greatest wrestler. When you hear someone as established and as well thought of as the nature boy himself say that Shawn Michaels is the greatest, how does that make you feel? It's the greatest compliment a guy could have. to even be in the conversation. Yes. And I always, I don't know, for me, whether it was Rick, I always tried to, our business is what it is, right? It's entertainment. Yes, yes. But you can still love that.
14:59Again, I was still, even though, because I went through my ups and downs, you know, trials and tribulations, but when I was in there, I was the most romantic guy there was about this job. I was still the 12-year-old kid in there every time, especially when I was in there with Rick or some of these guys, but being at a WrestleMania with John or I don't know, I was so enamored. I never fell out of love with the opportunity of being able to go in there and do that. And so I think if there was anything that might have been able to set me apart from everybody is that I fully grasped and engaged with that love and that passion and that, again, that romance.
15:49Again, you know, again, we say this about the old saying, you know, there's a certain role. Who can't be romantic about baseball? Who can't be romantic about football? I always I guess how wrestling was for me right um it was it was my lifeblood and so I always allowed myself to be in there in those moments and I think that came across to people I think they could see that I was so enamored with what I was doing in there and I gave myself over to that in a way that made them buy into it was real to me while it was going on in there um because every ounce of it was for me. And it was an opportunity to be able to, I don't know, to convey my love for this unbelievable job that I had.
16:37So I don't know. I hope that answers your question. And then I hope that kind of gets it there. You know what? I have one question that always happens. It happens to all of us that have played a sport with regards to what respective craft that it is you do. Once you transition and you no longer can play said sport, have you been able to find something else that you're passionate about and that you love? Yeah. That you can pour into the same way you did wrestling that made you one of the greatest? I'll say this. For me, it's obviously my family. Okay. But it's also this. Again, it is now, because again, I had a wonderful change in my life with my faith and my wife and our children.
17:16Now I'm able to do this job, but I'm able to pass it forward. I feel like I'm fulfilling my purpose. Right. I do one thing well in this lifetime, and it's wrestle. And I'm able to use that gift to give other young men and women that come through the doors of the Performance Center in Orlando, Florida, the opportunity to have the amazing life that I've been given through this line of work. And hopefully have an influence on them to live that in a positive and successful way, but still be intact when they're done with it. You know, again, whether it's, you know, the NFL, the NBA or wrestling, the WWE, we have good stories and we have very sad and tragic stories.
18:05I want theirs to be a story that ends with joy and happiness and peace. And so that's something, again, that Hunter put into the Performance Center when he started it 14 years ago was a culture that was going to be unlike the business that we broke into. Yes. And that is something that we, yes, we want to pass the tools of professional wrestling forward. But at the same time, we want the culture of our business to be different and to be more positive than it was when we got into it. we want to leave it better off than the way we came into it. And that's one of the things that we're trying to do, obviously, you know, from a culture perspective as well.
18:48Shannon Sharpe:You know when you devote so much of your life and your time to something, when you give so much to something, it takes a little from you also. When you travel and you do what you do, because people think, well, well, Sean's only wrestling once a year because he's only doing the main event. He's only doing, you know, a Summerfest or SummerSlam. That's not the case. You guys are on the road sometimes 250, 300 days a year. And, yes, it's entertainment, but you're actually falling. You're falling on that mat. You're falling on those chairs. You're falling on that. And so you play the game of football.
19:19Shannon Sharpe:You play the game of baseball, basketball long enough. Your body, it takes a toll on your body. How have your body, how did your body feel now at 60 that you look back on it like, you know what, because people ask Ochoa now all the time, And knowing what you know now about the concussions and the toll it's going to take on your body, would you do it again? Yep. Absolutely. I probably would have started earlier. Knowing what you know now and how your body feels, Sean, would you do it again? Hell yes. I have had my back fused. I've had my shoulder replaced. I got two knees that I'm getting replaced in probably a month.
19:56And I wouldn't change it for anything in the world. So, again, I knew that going in as you guys did. I knew the price that was going to come along with it. When I worked on the road, we did 286 days. When I got a part-time schedule, it was 150 days. And I enjoyed every minute. I'm fortunate, again, especially later in my career, to have a wife and children that understood that. They still support me now. As you know, that's so important to have. Absolutely. But, again, it's a part of who I am and who I've always been, and they recognize that. So, yeah, I'm with you guys. If they had given me a chance to start earlier, I would have.
20:38But, again, you had to wait until you were 19 to get a license in Texas to be a wrestler. So I waited until I was 19.
20:44Shannon Sharpe:You are a part of many, many blockbuster wrestling events. This one we have, Canelo versus Crawford, is probably the biggest event that we've had in the boxing arena in a very, very long time. because you've got two champions, undisputed champions. Bud in the four-bet era, he's the first male to be an undisputed champion, two weight classes. Canelo has dominated the 168 division for the longest time. When you look at this fight and you look at it from a distance, an outside guy that loves fighting, what do you think? How do you think this thing's going to play out? So I guess for me the biggest thing for me is that I'm happy to see boxing back to where, I guess I'll say, at least for me, and I hope that comes across well, back to where it once was.
21:31You know what I mean? I think that's the most positive thing coming out of all of this, what everything's said and done. I would just say I'm not the most educated, but for me it's hard to go, you know, against Canelo. And I guess, you know what I mean? That's just, there's so much there, a dominance there, And I guess in my lifetime, every time there's been a dominance like that in boxing, yes, it's got to end sometime. But I'm one of those people who just think that it's not yet.
22:10Shannon Sharpe:Well, I was going to ask you, but since you've got to get both knees replaced, I guess there ain't no chance of you getting back in the ring. Not a chance. Not a chance. Look, even if they were, I'm so blessed and so fortunate to have done what I've done. But I am so overjoyed to be doing what I do now and helping the future of the WWE and to be a part of that. NXT is just thriving on Tuesday nights on the CW Network. And to help these young men and women, again, to achieve their passions and their dreams is something that I had no idea I had enjoyed this much, but it is so great because I think the business is in just tremendous hands for the future.
22:54Shannon Sharpe:When did you know it was over? When did Shawn Michaels know I can't do anymore? If I won another title, it's not going to change anything. When did you know it was time to step away? So my body still felt great. I still had plenty of left in the tank but I had a match again it was the one with Undertaker WrestleMania 25 in Houston that made me feel so peaceful in a way that I'd never felt after a match in my entire life I can remember driving home because that's when we still lived in Texas and we were driving home from Houston and I looked at my wife and I said honey, that might be the one I ended it on.
23:40And she looked at me, she said, what? And I said, yeah. I said, I feel a peace over me that I've never felt after a match before. And that's when we began to have the conversation, and it was the next year. They wanted to go back with one more with The Undertaker, and we obviously put my career on the line and all that kind of stuff. and I just it was just I had seen so many people struggle with it leaving and walking away yeah it's hard getting in is easy Sean is to get that part right well and I watched so many guys struggle with that and I felt like here I was at this opportunity where that wasn't gonna be the case that wasn't gonna be you yeah and I was still healthy I was still able to go I was able to leave as they say on a high note yes um and so i just couldn't picture it any it couldn't picture it being any more perfect than that and so uh made that decision and have never looked back and regretted it um again i you know i i don't know i just uh it was something that i've had such peace with uh and and again like i said i feel very fortunate to have had that because i know so many have struggled with it in the past.
24:55Even though you have peace, do you miss it? I don't. Not being in there, the physical aspect of it, I don't miss. The travel, I don't miss. I guess I'm able now to still kind of get that same charge when we're sitting there, I'm telling a story to these talents where I'm trying to convey this is what we're looking for out of this match and we're going to tell this story and this is going to happen. And at the end, hopefully they come unglued. And when that happens and it all comes together, it's that feeling once again. But it's you watching the joy in that talent's heart. And again, when they're finally getting it.
25:35So it's in a different aspect that I receive kind of that charge that I used to have when I got in the ring. Yes, sir.
25:43Shannon Sharpe:Last question. Is there anybody that's currently wrestling, be it WWE, been an NXT? nonstop wrestling is there anybody that reminds sean michael sean michael that you see um i'll say this from an nxt standpoint we have an you know an unbelievable uh roster i think somebody who you have to keep an eye on he's 21 years old um and his name is javon evans okay he's unbelievably dynamic um unbelievably talented gifted he just turned 21 i believe and the future is so bright for that young man. He's going to be somebody that's going to be very big in the WWE and obviously I think probably before long he'll probably be a flag bearer in NXT.
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26:32So I'm excited to see the trajectory of his career.
26:35Shannon Sharpe:Thanks for coming on. Give us a few moments of your time. The great Shawn Michaels, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you all so much. Thank you. Pleasure, baby. Appreciate it, Shawn. Thank you. Man, this was amazing to really sit down and, like I said, I've been a wrestling fan. My grandpa used to take my brother and I to wrestling matches. Savannah Civic Center, we used to go to Baxley, we used to go to Vidalia. You want to get him? Yeah.
27:01Shannon Sharpe:Used to take my brother and I, and we'd see all those, when it was Georgia Championship Wrestling, and it was great. It was great, and to sit down and have a conversation. Like I said, I've interviewed Ric Flair, I've interviewed John Cena, met a lot of wrestlers and to sit down with Shawn Michaels, it's been great. And I'm glad we got an opportunity to catch up with him. Stan, what they do, baby? Man, listen, if I had your hands, I'd cut mine off, man. Give me some McDonald's, man, so I can get in shape. You know what I mean? We got legendary broadcaster Stan Barrett joining us. Stan, how you doing?
27:37Shannon Sharpe:Doing great, man. Doing great. Nothing like the energy of fight night in Vegas. There's nothing like a fight. Vegas was built on fighting. Absolutely. Yeah, we got the casinos and we understand that. But there's something about a buzz, the electricity that's in the air when a big-time fight hits town in Vegas. And the funny thing about it is it took a fight like this to get that magic, to get that buzz back in Vegas. There have been many fights, but nothing just like this that brings back that feeling of Manny Pacquiao Mayweather. Absolutely. I was here. We were here for eight days. I was with ESPN there.
28:10And we were here for eight days for that fight. ESPN said, we want to own this fight. So I was parked here the whole time. And, you know, you could just feel it ramping up as the week went on. And by the time we got to the fight, it was unbelievable.
28:24Shannon Sharpe:You mentioned you and Neil Everett, you got the transition. You're going to try to recreate what you guys had on ESPN. If I'm not mistaken, I think I read you going to Twitch. Yes. So you're taking your talents to Twitch. Exactly. What was the thought process in doing that? So our producer, Jeff Anderson, is really in tune with the digital space. Yes. And so he saw that Twitch gave us a lot of functionality to do live because initially it was mostly gamers on Twitch. Yes. And so, you know, exactly. So they need a lot of functional capability to go live. You've got to be able to see the gamers.
29:05You've got to be able to see the action on the screen. So we are sort of adapting that for sports. Now, it's already, Chad, you probably know, the European soccer guys are already on Twitch. And they're doing live shows on Twitch already. There's a bunch of radio stations that are streaming their shows on Twitch. So it's, you know, we think we found something really, really good in that platform that helps us go live, interact with fans who are listening to the show, watching the show. They can ask questions. They can comment. And we can deal with them in real time. And then we take the show later.
29:40We put it on YouTube and all the traditional platforms.
29:42Shannon Sharpe:I like it. We're going to get you out of here on this one. Prediction. What do you think is going to happen? Canelo, Crawford. Crawford taking a big risk going up basically pole vaulting three weight classes. Canelo is, you know. Yeah. It's Canelo. The thing is, I think it's going to come down to can Canelo handle Bud's ability to switch South Park Orthodox. Which is why he had boots in camp. Exactly. Exactly.
30:14Versus Bud's ability to take a punch. Right. I don't know if sparring-wise he had anybody who's as big as Canelo in camp who hits with the power of Canelo. Canelo hits with. Because if you had somebody that big who hits that, he wouldn't be a sparring partner. Right, exactly. He'd be wearing a belt. Exactly. You know what I mean? So I think in the first couple of rounds, I mean, it's going to be interesting to see if Bud feels like I can box, I can fight him, I can stand in the middle and fight him.
30:41Shannon Sharpe:No. Or if he's going to box him. Right. You know what I mean? I don't think he can get lured into trying to stand in the middle and trade with him because some heavy hands. Right. So is it going to be a slugfest or is it going to be a boxing match? Right. If it's Slugfest, advantage Canelo. If it's a boxing match, advantage Bud. So we'll see. Styles dictate fights. Yep. Always. Good luck to you and Neil on the Endeavor on Twitch. Congratulations on the great success that you had the 25 years at ESPN. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Hey, man, I'm trying to be like you guys, you know what I mean?
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34:51Shannon Sharpe:all rights reserved good man how are you we're doing amazing thanks for having me on now we You hear there's like a, like, you got something big that you want to announce. Is there any hint? You know, you want to, like, DeVoe, you want to let us see it on right now? I don't want to be the worst secret keeper on the planet. You know what I mean? Yeah, we got some big news today about the future and how things are happening with WWE, but it's going to be exciting, and I'm thrilled we get to do it here today in the shadow of Canelo Crawford. It's nice. Because if I'm not mistaken, WWE and UFC, now you guys are under the same umbrella, TKO.
35:28Shannon Sharpe:Yes, absolutely. TKO, it's WWE, UFC, PBR, Pro Bull Riding in there, you know, the few other random things. But, yeah, it's great to be partnered with them. It's great. Dana's a genius. Thrilled to work with them. And so far, it's a wonderful collaboration. Is this secret anything to do with WrestleMania 2027? I mean, could it possibly be anything headed in that direction? You are in the ballpark. I'm in the ballpark. You are in the ballpark. There we go. For sure. Yeah. I'm just going to say sometimes secrets are hard to keep around here, so there might be rumors floating around. I don't know.
36:06Shannon Sharpe:To get in the sport of wrestling, I mean, obviously, you know, your father-in-law and you guys, you're running, and you're doing a great job of this right now, Triple H, doing what you do. But as a kid, did you always want to wrestle? Did you do other things? Or how did you get into the sport of wrestling? Yeah, so it's a funny thing is as you grow up, especially then, and it's one of the reasons why I did what I did within the company of creating what we call NXT. That's our developmental system. Yes. Because there was never a pathway to get into pro wrestling. If you want to be a WWE superstar, it's like trying to be a trapeze artist.
36:42Where do you start? Right, right. And I grew up a huge fan. And really in the back of my mind, you know, man, if I could do one, if you would say to me as a kid, what's the one thing you'd want to do, be a WWE superstar? I did all the other sports, started bodybuilding and lifting weights when I was 14 with the mindset of if I want to be a WWE superstar, you got to go to the shows, see these guys are huge. I got to get bigger. I got to, you know, I got to get there. So, you know, you had to find a way. I was lucky in that somebody pointed me in the right direction. I had met a world's strongest man, Ted Arsidi, at the time.
37:21First guy to bench 700 pounds. First guy to bench press 700 pounds. And had a brief stint in the wrestling business. Yeah. Parlayed that into business for himself. Very smart guy. You know, I had met him and asked him, how do I get in the business? And he would always try to discourage me from it. And then eventually, when I bugged him enough, he gave me a number. I went and trained with Killer Kowalski. Killer Kowalski? Yeah. And fortunately for me, it took off. But now we've changed that game. We've tried to make the pathway. So we recruit heavily in colleges. We have an NIL program. We call it Next in Line.
37:58We have NIL kids across the country that have an interest in WWE that are part of promoting us to all these events that they go to. And then we work with all those kids that have an interest in this or maybe didn't know they had an interest. But, you know, you know better than anybody, right? Like the NFL, it's such a small percentage of folks that get in there. You can be the best of the best and all of that. But then there's this moment in time where you have whatever the slightest difference and you're not going to make it. And this is a career choice for them where, you know, they come to Orlando, Florida.
38:36They see our facilities. They think, wow, this is like being in a D1 college. I have that level of professionalism. Let me give this a shot. And it's performance. So it's athletic performance. And if they can make it work for them, then the sky's the limit, just like any other sport.
38:54Shannon Sharpe:You guys are basically, that training center is in Orlando, right? It's in Orlando. We're in the process of building a new one now in Orlando. It'll be even bigger and better. Our main offices are in Connecticut and L.A., but Orlando's the developmental. When I think about all you've accomplished, Your thought growing up as a kid, always wanting to wrestle. Everything that you poured into the sport, it's pouring back into you now. Are you able to have a life outside of wrestling at all, where you can have other hobbies, other passions that you actually enjoy? Yeah, though, you know, I'm going to go on a limb and say probably like both of you, I enjoy fitness.
39:30I enjoy being in the gym. That's my solitude. That's my church. That's my place. I go to ground and have that foundation for me is training and all of that. But then other than that, it's my wife and my kids. You know, my family, you know, it's not like my wife wasn't in the business as well. My family, all of that. So sometimes hard to get away from. It is. I say this to people all the time, and I think you two will get this. People talk about work-life balance. It's bullshit. There is no such thing.
40:03Shannon Sharpe:Not that you want to be great or something, there ain't. No. And all you can really do is your best at whatever it is you're doing in that moment. So when I'm at work, I try to be at work. When I'm with my kids, I try to put work aside and dedicate that time to my kids or my wife or whatever that is that we're doing and not sort of be, oh, yeah, I'm at my kids' game or with them. But I'm on my phone the whole time trying to do business, right? I tell people I'm going to be off for an hour or two. I'll pick back up in a little bit. Now I'm with them. And, you know, that's it's hard. It's easy to say that harder to do it.
40:38But that's that's the goal for me. And, you know, I'm I'm thrilled that at this point in my life, I still get to do what I love. You know, a lot of people when they when when they finish football, they finish basketball, they finish wrestling, whatever it is, it all just stops. Right. And and that's hard to handle. For me, it's never stopped. When I couldn't do this anymore, I was already plugged in maybe deeper than I even wanted to be and everything else. So, you know, for me, I've been fortunate that that passion that I have for it still continues to this day. And I say this a lot for me. It's almost like now as I get to help these other kids grow and find success in this business, it's almost like watching your kids do it.
41:23You know, your own career is fabulous. Your own achievements are incredible when your kids do it, when your kids reach their goal, when they have that moment. And, you know, it's a different level of pride. And I think that's where I'm at with it now is watching these kids succeed and do what they do to me is almost more than my career was.
41:42Shannon Sharpe:H, how hard is it? Because, and I believe you had Shawn Michaels before you came on, and he was so gifted. You were so gifted at what you did. And it came natural to you. And when you try to tell someone else how to do it, and they say, well, how? And he's like, why can't you pick that up? Because it was so easy to you. how is it that you because i think the greater the athlete is probably the harder it is for him to do it because a lot of things were god given yeah he doesn't understand he or she doesn't understand how they did it yeah just did it just came natural i find that all the time look i i like to think for myself i you know i think to some degree i was gifted for it but to some degree i wasn't sean is one of the most incredible athletes i've ever seen right and can do stuff And, you know, one of my favorite opponents, I've said it all the time, I think he's the greatest in-ring performer of all time, his athletic ability is second to none.
42:35I didn't have that. I had to learn the other aspect. You know, to me, I don't know, this is reference to my childhood, but to me I was much more Larry Bird than I was, right, anybody else. Yeah, because he wasn't the most athletic guy, couldn't jump the highest, couldn't run the fastest, but his knowledge is all that stuff, right? So I had to put in the work on the other side. But I have seen that a million times over where you see guys that are incredible at what we do, and then they try to tell it to somebody else, and I'm like, what are you talking about? That's totally wrong. You don't even know why you do work.
43:11And it's tough for people to get, but I'm a big collaborator for stuff. So if I'm trying to explain things to somebody or try to get them to a certain place that's not working, let somebody else take a stab at it. Yeah. It just takes that one sometimes buzzword or the right perspective for somebody to go like, oh, he told me I didn't get it at all. What you just said, I get that. And that's a different take. And sometimes they just got to figure it out for themselves. For themselves.
43:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. No, but when growing up, and I know you came to the sport. So how long have you been in this thing? 30 years? Oh, yeah. I started 92, 93. Okay. Yeah. So by that time, Vince had already kind of like taken it from WWF to WWE. But we were talking to Sean, and I grew up in the South, and so it was Georgia Championship Wrestling with Gordon Soltzman. Yes. And wrestling was regional. You had the Mid-Atlantic. You had the Midwest. You had the Southwest. And so now what Vince was able to do was bring all of that under one umbrella. And so now you didn't have – you had the NWA also. So I remember all of them.
44:19NWA, AWA. Yes. And it was all over the place, yeah.
44:21Shannon Sharpe:So my grandfather used to take my brother and I to all these little, you know, to see Bobo Brazil and Crusher Blackwell and Andre the Giant. So we saw all Dusty Rhodes, all these guys coming up. And I remember like, man, man, I want to be a wrestler. But then football kind of like captivated me. Was it like that for you when you saw it for the first time? Did you understand like, man, I kind of like that. I kind of dig that. I think I could do that. I did. I did. I was a kid and very young. but man it was for me and and i was fortunate i grew up in the i'm born and raised in new hampshire right so boston sports for me i grew up in the larry bird era the parish and all those guys right mikhail and all that i also grew up in the carl yastrzemski and the red socks era right like everybody that boston sports scene was incredible but for me i was aware of all that and i'd go to some of that but the thing that resonated for me was wrestling and like you i was fortunate when cable came in where i live i got the wwe but i got the nwa i got georgia championship i got florida i got texas i got the awa yeah so i had this this well-rounded sort of view of what the business was because they were all slightly different vince was a genius that saw cable coming in the and the regional going away and national becoming yes the thing and eventually global um to some degree for the talent that time frame was almost better because the guys that you saw that were successful at the highest of levels like in wwe had been places for years honing their craft yes yes right you just read about them in magazines but maybe you hadn't seen them wrestling magazine i don't know if they still have do they still have rest they do but you know who reads magazines and now you know what i'm saying everybody it's a click yeah it's a click and and and you're there and you get all the information but yeah the time was different and and that ability to go all those different places now we get these kids they come in from college in a couple of years if they start doing this and they start training hopefully within a couple of years they're on nxt they've got national exposure on the CW that, you know, people could have only dreamed of years ago.
46:37And it's changed. And, you know, it's an interesting thing is, like, you talk about football. If you go slightly back just before my generation of it, football wasn't the money-making thing that it is now. So you had guys like Wahoo McDaniel, Big Cat Ernie Ladd, who were wrestling in the offseason.
46:54Shannon Sharpe:Wahoo played for the Broncos. Ernie Ladd played for the Kansas City Chiefs. Absolutely. And for a lot of them, they would play if they, you know, unless they were top guys, like the money was better year-round in wrestling than it was for the short season of football. And a lot of them gravitated out of football and into wrestling full-time. Some of them had to get part-time jobs because you're right. Absolutely. There was not, I mean, we look at it now, you see guys making$50 and$60 million. It wasn't like that. No, there were very few guys making six figures. Yeah. Right? Very few. Very few.
47:25Shannon Sharpe:Very few. Basically, only your quarterbacks, you know, when I got in the league, you know, your quarterbacks and then you had your top defensive linemen like Reggie White and Bruce Smith. But for the most part, there were not a whole lot of guys making$500 ,000 or a million dollars. That was just unheard of money back then unless you were the top, top, top guys. What do you think is the ideal? So because you have to be, obviously, you have to be able to be able to entertain, but you have to be athletic. You have to be able to be skilled. and people don't realize that, okay, yes, entertainment, but you hit the mat.
47:58Oh, without a doubt. You hit the table.
48:00Shannon Sharpe:You run into the turn vocals. Accumulation of that, it adds up, H. Absolutely. You know, our business is like getting in a car crash every day. It is. You know, and it's day after day and there's no off season. And so it's a tough, very physical business. It's not for everybody. Because people think, you know what they think, H, People think because they only see the Summer Slam and they only see the big events that that's all there is. That's all they do. No. That thing is like, and Shawn Michaels was saying, he traveled in the beginning 286 days. Yeah. Yeah, we all did then. Now, it's different now, right?
48:39It's much more a weekly, you know, you're wrestling once, twice a week. It's a lot better family life for people. Right. We have brought that into a place. When you're trying to build a business, you've got to do it differently. Absolutely. And now it's in a different place, and the money is different, and everybody's living different. But the physicality is still there. It's still the same. It's not there. And, you know, I say this to everybody. The casualty rate's 100%. No one walks away unscathed in our business. You're going to get injured. It's going to happen. It's just a matter of when.
49:12Yeah, and you've got to deal with that. And then if you're at the right mindset and you're driven, you come back better and you come back harder. But the thing in our business that's interesting is it's not always the most athletic. And you said it a little bit ago that sometimes the most athletic guys, it comes easy to them. And when shit gets hard, they don't push as hard. In our business, sometimes I can make you a list of the guys, you know, Hulk Hogan, love him to death, biggest star of all time, not the most athletic guy on the planet. You know, John Cena, not the most athletic guy on the planet.
49:52You know, a lot of those guys, the list of people who are incredibly, they have incredible charisma, incredible crowd presence, incredible ability to control a crowd and tell a story. That's more important. Charisma is king in our business. Absolutely. So the athleticism, doesn't matter how fast you can run, doesn't matter how much you can bench press, it just matters if you look like you can. So it's a different mindset, right?
50:17Shannon Sharpe:That's what made Rick special. Rick could talk. Rick could talk. Dusty Rose. Guys that can talk and can, like, limousine ride. When you talk about those folks in that time frame, when people can still quote their promos from that generation. After all these years. You know, half the kids today that are running around doing the limousine ride, Jet flying, you know, alligated shoe wearing, Rolex wearing. They're doing all that stuff. I don't even know if they've ever seen Rick Russell. Probably not. And the same, you know, with Hogan, people can still repeat that. His catchphrases and his moments, The Rock, you know, Stone Cold, all those people.
51:02But Dusty Rhodes, people still talk about his hard times promo. Right? Like, those things are iconic. That is what we do, right? I say this a lot of times when people don't understand. If we're talking to network executives, they're trying to figure out what we are. I say we are less boxing and more Rocky. We're not the sport. We're a movie about the sport. And Rocky is really a love story. Yes. It just happens that boxing is a background and the metaphor for all the things he has to overcome and do. Our business, when you talk about that emotion, you talk about the storytelling, you talk about all those things, that's really where it resonates yes and those are things it's why our business is evergreen very few people unless you're an incredible you know student of the technical aspects of it nobody goes back and watches the super bowl from five years ago people will go back and watch wrestle mania three to this day yep you know uh 40 years later yeah 40 years later they're still watching it right it's the story it's the spectacle it's all those things um that's where we're different We're a spectacle in storytelling.
52:11The athleticism is a huge factor of it. I don't want to negate it. The in-ring product, all that stuff. But that ability to speak, that ability to control the crowd, that innate charisma, you know, that in other sports, if Conor McGregor comes back and fights in UFC tomorrow, he's the biggest draw they have. Because he can sell it. And he hasn't won a fight in, what, 10 years? And he hasn't fought probably in almost 10 years, right? Like, it's incredible. Mike Tyson announces he's going to do something here. Everybody pays attention because he has that charisma, that innate ability to make you want to pay attention.
52:50H, thank you, man. Thank you. Appreciate you coming in. Thank you for having me, man. Appreciate you, bro.
52:55Shannon Sharpe:It's good to see you. Thank you very much. Anytime you need it, you know how to get in touch with him. Appreciate it, man. Appreciate you, bro. Same here. Thank you. Hopefully we'll see you at the show soon. Appreciate you. I can wrestle if you need me. Let me know. Let me know, guys. Good to see you. That was, he actually, he runs the, took over for his father-in-law. Undertaker. Yeah. Undertaker. That's Triple H. Hey, shit. The Undertaker. Doom. What's up, bro? I'm good. Good to see you, Undertaker. What's up, bro? You good? Good to see you. Good to see you. Good side over here. Yeah.
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56:46Plus taxes and fees. Same-day delivery for most internet-eligible customers. See if it's an option during checkout. Fastest according to Ookla Speedtest, based on Speedtest intelligence data, second half 2025. All rights reserved. Hey, how you been? I've been good, man. I'm busy, but we're good. Busy is a good thing.
57:05Shannon Sharpe:Busy is a good thing. Man, you know that meme. Everybody says that meme. I got more memes than I know what to do with, man. Is that when you know you made it, when you got memes? Yeah. Yeah. You've actually made it. You have officially arrived once you have memes. So how you been? I've been good, man. Really busy. A lot of things happening with WWE. And, yeah, just trying to lend a hand where I can. Yeah. When you got into the sport, did you have any idea that the WWE would be this? No. Would grow to what it's become? Absolutely not, man. We were just trying to fill up arenas, make a little money, and maybe sell.
57:51Back then when I started, there were four pay-per-views, right? There was the big four, and that was it. We were trying to sell pay-per-views, sell some T-shirts, and no clue. No clue that Netflix was going to come along and the kind of money that these deals are. It's crazy. You can't imagine, you know, back in 1990 what 2025 is going to look like.
58:17Shannon Sharpe:And talking to Rick, Rick was talking about how he used to wrestle in high school gymnasium, and he would wrestle three or four or five times in a single day in order to, you know, because there was no money. I mean, you guys making$50. You guys making just enough money to put gas in their car and go to the next locale, and here we are, guys are making real, real, real money. They got families. You know, they got wives. They got kids. They have nice homes now. It's a different era now for wrestlers. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, we call that paying your dues, right? Right. When you come up, and it's not even like there's so many times where I would have to go and help set up the ring just to get on the card.
58:59Right. And maybe even have to, you know, sometimes chip in for some, you know, not make any money. Right. That's just how important ring time was. And we didn't have a, you know, you didn't have a PC or all the ways to prepare as we do now. And I was telling a story earlier about the first time that I went to, I went to like an HR block. I'm one year in the business. And I got this bag full of receipts, right, that I'm giving this guy. And he says, and he's reading it like I wrote it down wrong. He said, you drove, in eight months, you drove 45 ,000 miles? And I was like, yes, sir. And he says, and you made 12 ,226.
59:49And a guy was serious. He was an old-timer, right? And he pulls his glasses down, and he looks over his glasses. He goes, son, can I give you some advice? He said, you might want to find a different line of work.
1:00:03but i mean but yeah that was that was paying your dues and now here we are yeah right so and speaking of speaking of line of work growing up as a kid did you actually know you wanted to wrestle from jump or was there something else you want to do for me i wanted to be a marine biologist i wanted to be a veterinarian because i was in animals i was in the killer whales and dogs of that nature and then football came on right and that's that's that's what happened Right. No, I was a big, big fan as a kid of wrestling. But again, I thought I was going to play football. Right. Right. And, you know, that was that was always I thought that was that was my dream.
1:00:38That was your way. That was my way out. I ended up playing basketball. And then wrestling kind of came back around. You know, I was training at this gym between I think it was my junior and senior year of college. and this guy's working out and he's like hey man you ought to you ought to go through this wrestling school with me man i think you know i'm gonna try and play some some pro ball overseas right right and every day i'd come in he'd hit me up and then kind of start kind of catching up with the product again and it was a lot different even then than what it was when i was a kid right and i've always kind of been very like a pretty practical and i know what my abilities are but my abilities aren't.
1:01:19And then, you know, I start thinking about it, like, do I want to be the 12th man on a bench in Lithuania at 21 or 22 years old? Right. And then, you know, kind of like, well, damn, there's not a lot of big athletic guys in wrestling at the time. And that's kind of how it started. And once I started training, then it was like, okay, yeah, this is it. This is what I want to do.
1:01:40Shannon Sharpe:But you mentioned it's a lot different now than it is. They got NXT where they got the training program. Triple H was on and he said they're building an even bigger down in Orlando that's where they send all the guys that people want to pass through and think they can make it into WWE that's where they go through you guys didn't have that so these guys now have an advantage that you guys didn't and they have guys that come like yourself and they have Shawn Michael who's the director of that to go back there and help them guys out. Have you found it difficult to be able to share what you know with kids because those that can do, those that can't teach, you can do, but now sometimes they ask you to teach.
1:02:22Yeah. No, and that's a great question. But I think the biggest thing for me is that we have so many athletes now. Like, we recruit. Like, we will have people at the combine. You go to colleges. Yeah, we go to, you know, we'll go to the combine. We'll go to pro days. And we got people there because we have to continue to feed the system. Yes. Right? When I came up, either you had it like this is I was a fan. I want to do this. You have a certain understanding of the business, right, even as a fan. Right. We're getting people that have never been. Y 'all like the Army now. Y 'all looking for a few good men.
1:03:04We all look for a few good men. A few good women. But not understand. We're taking them from ground zero. So they don't understand the business or any concept. So trying to, the way that I come up and the way that my process was, yeah, sometimes I get some blank stares like, I have no idea what this man's talking about. And then you have to continue to break it down and hopefully they feel.
1:03:27Shannon Sharpe:We talk, let me ask you. So H was saying the most important thing is in athleticism. It's charisma. It's being able to hold this microphone and do what a Ric Flair could do. Do what a Dusty Rhodes could do. Do what a Rock could do. Do what a John Cena could do. Captivate that audience. Hold that audience. They're hanging on everything that you say. People still can recite that Ric Flair. Jet set. Limousine drive. Rolex wear. Alligator. He's wasted more liquor. that you made them a lifetime. They know that. Would you say, what do you think is the most important thing that a wrestler needs to have in order to be what you've become, what Shawn Michael was, what Rick?
1:04:13You have to have the ability to make somebody care. Right? Bar none. There's been a lot of guys that have made a lot of money that can wrestle a lick. I mean, if I'm being honest, right? But But, again, you put this in their hand, you're on the edge of your seat like, oh, shit. Right? Right. That's number one. You have to make – they don't have to love you. They can hate you. Right. It doesn't matter.
1:04:41Shannon Sharpe:Right. They just have to have – you have to be able to make people feel a certain way. Yes. And if you got that, everything else can take care of itself. You don't need to be – we always say Luthez. Luthez is an old-timer that could really wrestle. Right. He could do it all. Right. So you don't have to be Luthez. But, man, if you can if you can make somebody feel a certain way. Yeah. Then you've got a really good chance of being successful. That's dope. If I ask you, give me your Mount Rushmore wrestlers. If I get you get more heads to put on there, the greatest wrestlers of all time. Who would you put up there?
1:05:15So, again, I go back to who were the most, I guess, instrumental in the history of wrestling. And I put Andre the Giant on there. OK. Hulk Hogan. OK. Stone Cold. And the fourth, Ric Flair. I think those guys are synonymous with the history of our industry, right? Now, there's been guys that are better talkers. Yes. The other guys have been better wrestlers. Yes. For guys that had impact, those are my four.
1:05:49Shannon Sharpe:And a lot of people don't really. Andre was at the very, very beginning because Andre started out. I remember him. I saw him in Baxley, Georgia. It went in with Georgia Championship Wrestling. Because it was, you know, south. It was regional. You had Mid-Atlantic. You had the Midwest. You had Georgia, Florida. You had Southwest. And so I got an opportunity to see him. And I just remember as a kid looking, like, there ain't nobody. There's no man in the world ever been this big. You're right. Yeah. Most people didn't understand with Andre. And this is what he was doing back then. he was in a different place every day, right?
1:06:25He would be down in Mid-South, and then he would be in California, and then he would go to Japan. He was the international superstar long before anybody else. He was the first guy that was on Johnny Carson and all of those shows. And he
1:06:42Shannon Sharpe:didn't talk, but people were in awe of his size. Nobody had ever seen a man that big. They had never seen a man with his hand that wore a size 23 ring and whatever size he was, he weighed 500 pounds. He was over seven feet tall. Right. So like, am I ever going to see somebody that size again in my life? I better, I better, I better enjoy this. Yeah. And it's just, I remember going, I grew up in Houston and I remember him coming to Houston wrestling with the Sam Houston Coliseum there. I think I might've been 10 or 12 years old and got close enough, you know, to shake his hand. And it was just like.
1:07:18Like a catcher's mitt. My hand was lost. But then, ten years later, I'm in the same dressing room with Andre the Giant. That's dope. Now, that's a full circle moment. Yeah.
1:07:31Shannon Sharpe:I remember with him and Big John Studd. Dude, I just say this about Andre. If he want to be alone, he can be alone. Yes. I mean. Rick was telling stories like, if he liked you, he liked you. Yes. If he didn't like you, he didn't like you. and there was nothing nobody could say or do, and the match was going to go how he said it was going to go. Absolutely. And what are you going to do? What are you going to do with Andre? Whenever he says, that's exactly what you're going to do. Now that we see the UFC, all this is under one umbrella. UFC, you know, the boxing, PBR. I mean, and you see the crossover appealing.
1:08:12Shannon Sharpe:You see this big, because I guess this is like, I mean, This fight here is as big as the buzz of electricity that you have, like Pacquiao and Floyd. Mayweather, yes. This is common because the way you guys put on a SummerSlam and you SummerFest, and the way you guys do that, this is kind of like similar to the buzz that this is creating. It's very similar to what you guys do. Yeah, well, again, this may very well be the fight of the decade, right? These kind of fights just don't come along. And there's just something different about this caliber of fight, right? I mean, I was at De La Hoya and Trinidad and Tyson and Lennox.
1:08:54Like, it's just a different kind of buzz. And then when you put the machine of TKO and Netflix behind you. You got your guy, Turkey.
1:09:05Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, his excellency. And he is such a huge sports fan, man. And it's just crazy, the buzz and the attention that's going to be on this fight this weekend. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited. When you watch today, and I know you're still a fan of the sport, when you watch today, do you see anybody, any young undertakers coming up?
1:09:37It's hard. I mean, I see a lot of people that are coming up that are going to be, that have potential to be stars. Now, whether they're characters or what are they similar to mine, I guess the closest within the past few years obviously was Bray Wyatt. We lost him last year, but he was in that category of Undertaker-esque. Yeah, I don't know that anybody's really honed in there, but we have a lot of young talent coming up, and it'll probably be debuting really soon because the machine, again, you've got to keep it fresh.
1:10:14Shannon Sharpe:Did you pick the name Undertaker or did he give you that name? That name was given to me by Vince. He had this envisioned in his mind, this character, and basically he needed a big guy with very limited personality. I'm your guy. Yeah, so again, but it was something that resonated with me. You know, when he was showing, you know, everything was on these big storyboards. And I'm in his office and he's showing me this. And immediately my brain is like, oh, this is, you know, I knew. Like I knew, I didn't know what it was going to become, but I knew it was different and I knew it was special. And, yeah, I was like, yeah, this is pretty cool.
1:11:01Shannon Sharpe:How many people over the last 15 years have called you by your real name or everybody just called you Undertaker? Most people call me Taker. Taker or Deadman, right? Deadman was my nickname. And, yeah, sometimes people, you know, they'll say Mark and I don't even turn around. But if I hear Taker, I know, hey, what's up? Or Deadman. Right. But it's kind of funny, like, when you're in public places and, you know, somebody, hey, Deadman. And everybody's kind of looking around like, what the hell's wrong with him? What do you think the number one story that resonates with wrestling fans? The number one?
1:11:39They have to, again, it goes back to that connection that I was talking about. If they're invested in you and they care about. One of the things that a lot of guys, it takes them a while to figure out because they're so athletic now. Right. That's what they want to put. That's what they want to project. They want to display their athleticism. And that's great. Right. But at the end of the day, your audience will get desensitized or you have to continue to push the envelope. Right? Like, okay, I've seen you do a double backflip off the top rope onto the floor to somebody. And I've seen that a couple times.
1:12:15Now what do you got for me? Right? But if you can get them invested in the character and if somebody does that character wrong, now you got them. Right? Because that's what it's all about. If you love somebody, you're going to pay money to see that dude kick the other dude's ass.
1:12:32Shannon Sharpe:Right. Or if you don't like that guy for a reason, I want this guy to whoop his ass. Right? I'm going to go. Whether he wins or whether I want somebody to beat him or I want him to win, but I'm going to go see it. That's the gist of what we do. Oh, yeah. We storytell and we try to get people invested in the characters. Wrestling isn't, and I tell people this a lot, especially the young guys. You were asking me earlier. wrestling isn't about wrestling moves wrestling is about telling stories we use the moves to help tell the story but it's all on a on a connection and and that's you know that's the biggest thing once that light bulb goes off then you then you got a good chance of doing well i like that you got anything you want to add on to no that was it that was that was good man it's been amazing i I mean, to sit down and to watch, like growing up, like I said, I've been a fan and know the wrestling and to see you in age and to see, you know, Shawn Michaels.
1:13:29Shannon Sharpe:And I sat down with Rick and I sat down with John Cena. And to, like you said, to watch guys on television and all of a sudden through this job allowed me to sit down and sit across from you, man, it is indeed an honor. Yes, thank you, man. Absolutely. I appreciate you guys making time for me. I enjoy y 'all. I love y 'all's banter. I've been big fans of y 'all's career. That other career you guys had, too. I appreciate it. Yes, sir. I appreciate it. All right, man. Thanks for having me. Thank you, boss. It's a pleasure, baby. How you doing? I'm better now than I'm with you, too. I like it. I like it.
1:14:04Shannon Sharpe:I like it. Welcome to nightcap. Well, daycap. Normally nightcap. So how have you been? Good. Yeah. I'm here instead of SmackDown. So we get the night off. Yeah. Look, everybody knows your famous father. Who's that? The nature boy. The legend. Growing up watching your father, is this what you always wanted to do? No. No. I don't think growing up in the era that my dad wrestled and being an athlete and seeing what the women were doing at that time, I wasn't like, oh, I could be like that. Right. They were just so glamorous and sometimes in bikinis. but whipped cream bikinis it just wasn't like I don't know it wasn't a dream of mine but my little brother wanted to be just like my dad and he had a really bad drug addiction so I thought if I started wrestling that we could wrestle together and he ended up passing away but now it's like I'm living both our dreams so I just thank him for having the guts to do it so if wrestling wasn't your dream and it was a dream of your brothers what would you have done if you didn't transition into wrestling?
1:15:16I don't know. You don't know? I think personal training or something within the sports realm. That's a good one. That's what I always played sports. Right, right. Something there.
1:15:25Shannon Sharpe:That's dope. You received a lot of online hate because you came back from an injury and you immediately got a title shot. Yes. And how did – look, because everybody probably said you got fast-tracked because you was Ric Flair's daughter. And so you probably always had to deal with hate because of your famous father. And you probably were able to deal with it a lot better than others. Not in the beginning, but as you got older because you had to deal with it for so long. Kind of. Well, playing sports growing up, no one cared what you looked like. Right. And also, if you were the best player, you were the best player.
1:16:05Or team captain or hardest worker in the room. I'm like, no one gave a shit. Excuse me. No one cared who your dad was. They might have wooed at me. So I was used to that. But being in the entertainment industry, that also, you know, it's sports and entertainment. I just wasn't prepared for the online hate dealing with, like, why does she look like her dad? I don't know. I'm his daughter. Things like that. I'm like, why is that such a big deal? No, but I definitely obviously got in the door easy because of my dad. But there's, I mean, you don't do what I've done. You got in the door, but you still had to do it.
1:16:46Yeah, you got to put it work in. Oh, I did everything. You put it work in. Like, I've carved out my own path. But I still have that chip on my shoulder. Because it's like no matter what you do, no matter how many firsts you've had or how many awards, accolades, or best match of the night, it's still like, oh, Ric Flair. But it's okay. Like, you need haters in this world, right? You don't have haters, you got a problem. Have you been able to deal with that and navigate having the haters regardless of the work and understanding? Now I have. When I first started, it was hard. But I think it also propelled me to where I am today.
1:17:18Shannon Sharpe:Right, right. Like, it made me, like, I think, work that much harder. You mentioned, like, when you was growing up and your dad, the women, it's not like now, you and Tori Wilson. No, and the women definitely paved the way. They just weren't given the opportunity or the platform to show the world what they could do. So, I mean, they had to do all of that so we could do all of this. And I'm definitely aware of that. But the women, I grew up watching your dad at a very young age. You know, basically they were the fabulous moolah. That was really the only thing. And, you know, they would usually one woman's match a month.
1:17:58Shannon Sharpe:If that. If that. If that. They were just eye candy. That was it. But now you guys, you know, you and Bianca Belair and all these in Sky, you guys get center stage. You guys get main event. When you think about it, like, man, I got 20 ,000 people cheering. Oh, I've had like 101 ,000 people in AT &T. So I don't know what you're talking about. That's what I'm talking about, Charlotte. That's the first main event at MetLife. No, I think for me what's still like I still can't believe I'm here is I can remember sitting front row when my dad wrestled Sean in Orlando when he retired. And I was a fan of wrestling.
1:18:45Like I was a fan of my dad, but I didn't really follow it. I didn't have a favorite superstar. I was like, oh, Sting, he's like super sexy or like, you know, like Triple H or Randy Orton. But I didn't really follow it. So to be sitting front row and then seeing all these grown men crying over my dad retiring and all these woo signs, I was like, oh, my dad means a lot to this business. I had no idea. I think I was a little sheltered from it. So to know that that little girl who sat, well, I wasn't little. I was in my early 20s, who sat and watched her father retire. I have now been on more manias.
1:19:21I'm main event mania. He didn't. I have surpassed the things that he's done in the industry. but also to be a part of the industry that he helped create, not knowing that this was the path for me. So that's what's crazy, and it's all happened in 10 years. So you can just change the course of your life if you put your mind to it. I truly believe that.
1:19:42Shannon Sharpe:When I had him on my show, I talked to him, and I asked him, did he want you to do it? He said, no, he tried to talk you out of it. He did, because it's a hard life. I mean, it's a lot different now, But it's just like the traveling, it's nonstop. We don't have an off season. You're away from your family. You're away from your kids. It's like it takes a different kind of breed to do what we do. That's what he told me. He said, Shannon, if you're single, it's perfect. You don't have a wife. You don't have a girlfriend. You don't have kids. You just work out. He said, for me, I just work out, wrestle, on to the next.
1:20:20Shannon Sharpe:Wrestle, workout, on to the next. He said, but when you get a family, you have kids, it's a little hard with the travel that you have to do. It's not like it was when he originally started. Because he was telling me there were some days that he— Oh, it was harder then than it is now. It was a lot harder. He said, but he was wrestling two, three, four times in a day. Now, you guys, you know, you might wrestle once, maybe twice a week. It is definitely more family-oriented, I will say. Right. But it's still hard. Yeah. It's the travel. It's big going. It's the travel. Yeah. You know, the fact that you guys are so busy, your schedule is so hectic, you travel so many days out.
1:20:54We don't have an off-season. Unless you're injured, you don't have an off-season. So when I tore my knee, that was the first injury in eight years. Right. So now I'm thinking about outside of football, I have other interests. I have other hobbies that I really like. When do you ever have time to enjoy things that you like outside of wrestling? Well, the business has evolved. So before we were on the road four to five days a week, and now we don't have as many live event shows that aren't televised on the weekends. So really we just have SmackDown, Raw, and if we're overseas, we have the bigger televised events like Wrestlepalooza coming up September 20th.
1:21:31So we do have more time, but I think you just have to, if there's something that you're really passionate about, you have to set time aside for it. Okay. Oh, like Seth Rollins now being on the NFL network. Like, that's so great for him. Like, he loves football. He's able to find something else that he loves to do with wrestling. I know wrestling is his passion. But to see him doing that is really awesome.
1:21:54Shannon Sharpe:That's dope. It's been reported WrestleMania 43 is going to be in Saudi. Crazy, right? Whoa. I don't know what's more crazy, that it's in Saudi or that it's out of the United States. Right. That's what I mean by that. Like, it's always been our Super Bowl. Yes. It's been in the United States since, what, 1985? So now that it is overseas, that's what makes it like how global we are. Well, I think that for WWE, we've had so many shows there now for the last couple of years. I feel like it is, I don't want to say home, but we wrestled there three or four times. So to have a WrestleMania there, I could see it being a big deal because we've had Crown Jewel.
1:22:41We're going to have the Royal Rumble. But again, WrestleMania has been in the United States. So that's, I think, that's how big the company has become or World Wrestling Entertainment.
1:22:56Shannon Sharpe:You've been around this sport for a while now and you see what Bianca Belair, what she's been able to accomplish. I mean, when you see what she's done How did that make you feel? How proud of you of her? Oh, when I saw her sitting at the press conference I had no idea she had wrestled in Saudi nine times So when she came up to the main roster She really, when I thought about it, I was like, oh, she's right Like, she's been in almost every big show there No, she's the EST for a reason And she really is a role model inside and outside of the ring uh yeah i was like just proud sister sitting there watching her that's dope yeah do you like you like you like tag team you like a partner or you like solo oh personally i like solo yeah i don't like sharing the spotlight but i am in a tag team yes with the one person i don't mind sharing the spotlight with and that's alexa bliss yes and i'm having so much fun she's great she brings out um definitely a different side of my character for TV.
1:24:02So it's great.
1:24:03Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. So how much longer? I mean, your dad, if your dad still had, if his body would hold up, your dad would still be wrestling. Yeah. Is this something that you're like, okay, I got another three years, I got another five years. How much longer do you want to go with this, Charlotte? I don't know. I want kids one day. That's the thing. I can do both, but it just depends on the time. I don't know. Right now it's, what do I have coming up? NXT Homecoming Tuesday. We've got Wrestlepalooza, Royal Rumble, WrestleMania. So, like, the shows keep going. It's just whatever happens between now and five years.
1:24:40Shannon Sharpe:If you were to have kids, are you coming back, or once you start that family, you're done? I think wrestling's in my blood. I don't know any different. Like, I love it, but I do want to be a mom. But I think Trish Stratus coming back and having all these one-offs since she's 50. Looks better than half the roster. She's killing it. So I don't think that door will ever close. It's just I do know I want to step away to have children and when that time is. So if that's, I just saw, hold on, I just saw some wrestling couple, she's stepping away because she's having a baby. I forget who it was.
1:25:20Oh, my girl. Yes. Naomi. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
1:25:25Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Yes. I'm so happy. So she had the championship. Yes. And then she had to relinquish. Yes. But she'll definitely come back and win the title again. Right. Or take her title back that she never lost. Right. So, I mean, that means you'd have to be off at least a year. And you're going to need to probably, you know. I couldn't manage on the side with a little baby bump. I like that. Just like waddle to the ring. I like that. That's dope. So in other words, you're going to be a lifer. You're a wrestling lifer. You'll do what Shawn Michaels does. You'll go down to NST and then you'll teach the women to do what you do.
1:26:07So here's the thing. I do believe when you are good at something, it doesn't mean that you're going to be a good coach. Yes. I'm not saying that I couldn't be a good coach because I do love it, But right now what I like more is helping the girls inside the ring. Right. My mind isn't there yet to be like, oh, I have to be on the sidelines helping. Right. Right. Like, I feel like right now it's more like, all right, you got to keep up with me. Right. Let me see what you got. Right. That's the mentality. So I haven't, like, switched off yet to where what that looks like. Like, Triple H has done an incredible job.
1:26:40Mm-hmm. Like, going from what he meant in the ring to what he means now. Mm-hmm. and I'm just not there yet if that's something that I want to do.
1:26:51Shannon Sharpe:How difficult is it? Because, you know, like, you know, this is entertainment, and you've got to script, and you've got to follow the script, and sometimes you might get injured, but, hey, it calls for 30 minutes. We've got to give it 30 minutes, even if my back is hurting, my knee is hurting, my elbow, my shoulder. That's life. Yeah. That's life. You've just got to do it. Yeah, I don't, yeah. Have you ever been hurt early in a match and, like, damn, I still got 30 minutes to kill? So I've only been injured one time, but when I tore my ACL, MCL, meniscus, I finished the match. I didn't stop. What?
1:27:23But I think I injured myself more because my ego wouldn't let me stop. So I got injured in the first two minutes, and I kept going, and I finished the 10-minute match. And I was still losing the match, but I still had to finish it. I was like, I'm not stopping this match. But it was in front of the troops. Right. It was a tribute to the troops show, and I was like, these people give their lives for us, and I can't finish a silly wrestling match. So I'm out there going, you just have to finish it. But if you go back and watch that match, I landed on my head. It was brutal to watch. I needed to be stopped.
1:27:59Shannon Sharpe:Did you know when you injured yourself, did you know you were injured? By the end of it, I was like, I can't walk. I could not walk. I couldn't move. So you understood how severe it was? I did it well when I, like the first ding, I was like, oh, that don't feel right. Right. And then when I fell off the top rope onto my neck, I was like, oh, my God, did I break my neck? And then like 20 seconds later, I could move, kept going. And then I did another signature move that I had. And it was like, I don't know. I started the move. And the next thing you know, I was like flat on my face. But all the other things that I had to finish the match, I could use on one leg.
1:28:32But I was like, oh, this is not good.
1:28:35Shannon Sharpe:This is not good. Something ain't right. Something not right. because I've never, like, not been injured. Like broken noses, teeth knocked out, things like that. Exterior things, but not, like, interior. Damn, Charlotte, you mean to tell me you was, like, at the end of a match, you was, like, a jack-o'-lantern? I was in Germany. Yes, and Carmella knocked my teeth out, and I'm, like, walking back. Actually, the referee, Charles, actually handed me two of the teeth. I was like, put it away!
1:29:07Shannon Sharpe:To see the excitement on your face, even though through the torn knee and the knocked out teeth, you can see the passion that you have for what you do. And that's why you're so good at what you do. Because you don't look at this as an occupation. You don't look at this as a job. You enjoy doing what you do. So you don't see this as work. You see this as anything. I wake up every day grateful. Yeah, like, you know how some of you are like, oh, I got to go to work today. I'm like, oh, I don't work. Right. I love my job. Right. Yeah. I love it. Charlotte Flair, ladies and gentlemen, wrestling royalty.
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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are live from Las Vegas to preview Terence Crawford vs. Canelo Alvarez with special guests including: Shawn Michaels, Triple H, The Undertaker, Charlotte Flair and more!
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