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15:45Yeah. So now they're going to Atlanta. Like I said, the fans might be mad at trading, but they're going to see you on the floor. That's when you're going to see the difference. Yeah.

15:53Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. hopping. Oh, I know you follow football. So what do you think? You see the first game on Saturday, you got the Broncos, Buffalo, and then you got the 49ers who went into Philly and pulled an upset. They take on the Seattle Seahawks. The Seahawks beat them the last game of the season to take over that division. And then you got the Patriots take on the Texas and then you got, yeah, and the Broncos and Buffalo. Who do you like? I don't know. It's going to be tough. I'm just saying, you're saying something that probably the best football in years. Guys going down to the last possession and the defenses.

16:30I don't know that. I know they want Buffalo to be there, but you got to win the game to get there. I'm going to go with the young dogs. I'm going to go with Houston. Even Seattle is playing great. I think New England, Buffalo, I'd probably take New England. New England, New England, Seattle in the Super Bowl.

16:51Chad Johnson:I like that. I can see that. I like that.

16:55Shannon Sharpe:A rematch of Super Bowl XLIX. Yeah, there you go. Maybe it'll be a different outcome. You got a baby Tom Brady in New England. And they got that defense in Seattle. Defense in Seattle. Yeah, yeah. Man, Oak, appreciate you joining us football. No problem, man. Thank you, guys. Boys, I appreciate you, man. All guys.

17:12Joe Johnson:Oak, I'm going to get that money to you. Yeah, nine and nine. Nine and nine. Put another nine with it.

17:17Shannon Sharpe:Let me have one. He owe me Oak, so let me go. I'm going to collect Oak money. I'm going to let him over there. I said it all right. I ain't going to let nobody hold me this long. My interest used to be tripping. Osei, he a long shark. Tyrone, he a long. $10 ,000,$10 ,000 to$40 ,000. Damn. You got it. He done covered it. He done paid it. He was high about that. Yeah. Yeah. OK. I'm saying. Appreciate you, old man. Thanks for stopping by, man. Appreciate y 'all.

17:48Joe Johnson:Got to be some interest on them. J. Booker, what they do, baby?

17:54Joe Johnson:What's up bro? You good? Joe Mo.

17:56Chad Johnson:Joe Mo always got this shit on. Yeah. Man we good, we good. What's good with it? JJ what's up baby? I'm pretty good. I can't complain man. Life is good. Yeah. Man we got, I mean hold on.

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20:17Shannon Sharpe:Because you know you a night owl, you normally staring around midnight. I got to get the business done so I said I got to wake up early and go outside and do some business, man. Right. So what's good? What's going on for the day? I came to check y 'all out, see what's going on. I appreciate it. We appreciate that. Festivities and things like that. Congratulate y 'all for what y 'all got going on. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. I admire what y 'all been doing on both of your shows. Appreciate it. Let me ask you this. You got music coming out? We got some music coming out. We also got a show that's been running, doing pretty good for this past three months.

20:49So I'm excited.

20:50Shannon Sharpe:Hey, man, check this out. Man, why you be going back and forth with everybody? Man, let people live, man. Stole them out. We live in an algorithm world, right? There you go. Yeah, yeah. Ring master. You heard?

21:00Joe Johnson:And you can't let nobody just take no shots at you. And there's a, like, you know there's only so much you can take. So sometimes you got to bust a little shot back. And if they fall for the beta, you know how to manipulate the algorithm in your favor and bend it to turn it to make something for you, then I always take my negatives and turn them into a positive. So the more you put me in front of your Explorer page, the more I have to offer to those people that want to know who I am and why you're in front of this Explorer page. Yeah, so you want their fans' eyeballs on you. Of course. And if they're not talking about you, then you're not doing something right.

21:35If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping. It's always been that way. Right.

21:38Shannon Sharpe:I heard you mention the Chromeheart situation. I mean, Chromeheart has, you're like, bro, I was with Chromeheart 10, 15 years ago, and now I don't even do Chromeheart because everybody wears it, and y 'all tried to make it something more, and we was, when it wasn't popping, Jones was in Chromeheart. We were, Chromeheart is a, shout out to Chromeheart. I don't wear it as much as I used to. When we started, it was something that a lot of people didn't know about it. I wouldn't say I'm the first rapper to wear it, because I see, but I'm the first rapper to bring it to the game that made an aesthetic for people to, to wear as a rock.

22:12You made it popular. 100%. And now it's commercialized. I'm not mad at it. They're getting their money. You heard? For a long time, they've been under the radar for a very expensive brand. And now the kids have taken it to a whole other level. So I'm not mad at what they do. And the funny part about it,

22:26Joe Johnson:Chromeheart and some of these other high-end brands, we weren't even their target audience. No. We weren't their target audience. But because of someone like Jimmy, and I can remember back in the day, because I'm older than you, I'm 58. So I remember seeing you in it and not knowing what it was and doing my homework. And shoot, man, years later, you know.

22:42Shannon Sharpe:I mean, most of the high-end brands, we weren't the target audience. But you see, because, Jim, you remember this. I remember back in the early 2000s, they made, like, Louis Vuitton and Gucci, they weren't making nobody else to large. Now they make double, they make triple, because guess what? Athletes got money. So if they going to squeeze in it, let's make it big enough for them to pay. Athletes are the entertainers. Yeah. They used to, I'm trying to tell you, I forget the brand. that the biggest shoe size they had was a 12. Well, a lot of people that got big money were 13, 14, 15. We'll make it fit.

23:18Shannon Sharpe:Because before, if you wanted a big-sized shoe, I don't know if you know Freeman. You remember Freeman? Yeah, yeah. They was the only one that if you wanted a skin shoe and you wanted a bigger size, you had to go there. But you see all these other guys, they're like, hold on, wait a minute. We letting somebody monopolize on something and then we can get it. It's just like cars. You know, if you wanted to sway

23:44Shannon Sharpe:Everything you mean to tell me y 'all spend an extra ten thousand well, I snap it on there You put a sound system in there they you know, they got hardened carmen They got all these bowls surround sound they got everything cars even coming with tenant windows now. Oh, yeah Absolutely. The car's going to come fully. You can order everything you need for a car right now. Anything that you would get at the market, it'll come on. On the car, from the factory. Yeah, 100%. You're absolutely right, man. So things have changed. What's the biggest change that you've noticed, Jim, in the music industry from when you first got in to what you see right now?

24:20How music is consumed because when we did it, it was like a treasure hunt. we get to go to the actual music stores, go pick up the CDs, put it in the CD and listen to it. Now they just got to pick up their phone and press one button and they listen to it. And the attention span is way shorter than it was when we were actually enjoying the music. So most artists now, they got to create a lot of music, way more music than we would when we were younger and things like that. Because the law of that expectation is gone. These kids, they listen to the music and it's over with.

24:53Shannon Sharpe:It was fun though, Ocho. Oh yeah, it was. You remember the little boutique mom and pop shop? You go and you have to play it and you would actually listen to it. You have your hand set and you listen to it. You could buy incense. You could buy candles and stuff like that. And you listen to it and you say, you know what? Make your boy a tape. I want this, this, this on that. And then it turned you for the 8th track at first. And then it turned to a CD. Then it turned to the MP3. Now, there's, like you said, I mean, you just download. You go to YouTube and you go to Spotify. You go to Apple Music.

25:24Shannon Sharpe:Whatever the case may be, but the intimacy that you used to have man. We really felt like we knew them artists Yeah, right Man when BDK was out, hey bro, let me, hey man, that new BDK out, let's go hear that thing The booklet, even the booklet that was one of the biggest things They have all the songs in there, the words, you remember the words

25:45Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Where the state of music is right now, and have you been able to, how do you feel the transition for you has been trying to evolve now that music is different as opposed to when you first started? I always try to keep up with the game. I mean, I'm not mad at anything. I follow the business. I've created my own business model when it comes to the new way that music is consumed and brought right now. And I've always been an independent artist, so I've had to do things on my own anyway. So right now, with these distribution deals that these artists are getting right now, I've already been on it, so I've pretty much already been in the lane.

26:17But what's new for us now, for artists like myself, was we're embarking on podcasts and what this podcast do is give us another lifespan in entertainment because now people get to learn about our personality as opposed to just hearing us on music and things like that so it opens up a whole new door for people to get next to us and for us to keep getting money inside the entertainment world so right hey jomo uh i pay attention to

26:41Chad Johnson:you on ig i see you got a barber shop uh uh you sell clothes in there you do your podcast in there Yes. What else are you trying to do in that space, bro? Well, I have a facility in the Bronx called IFC. I'm building a multi-purpose content facility for music, media, fashion, and broadcast on all levels. So we have sound stages, podcast rooms, LED walls. I also have a sneaker store in there, a barbershop in there, two studios, a grocery store in there. We shoot our own podcast in there with Fab and Main and everybody. Let's rap about it. We have photo rooms in there. Like, so it's a full. That's a one-stop shop.

27:20You got to go nowhere else. Yeah, 100%.

27:22Shannon Sharpe:That's the way they do it now. I mean, shopping, grocery stores now, they sell wine. They got a bar in there. Hey, they'll make your sandwich. Why you shopping a ride? Hey, they'll fix you a drink. The people pushing the cart got a drink in their hand. They're going to keep you in there to keep spending their money. People like yourself, when you're coming in town, Like, this is a place that you can go to, get multiple things done, and get out of there. Not to mention the shopping. But, like, I'm open 24 hours. Right. You got some drip in there for you, boy. 100%. I got to get the super tall sizes now.

27:58That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.

28:00Shannon Sharpe:I got to get you right. Jim, you touched on this earlier. Because at first it was 8-track, and then it became the CD, then the MP3. The iPod has become absolutely. I think Apple don't even make iPods anymore. So now the way that you're doing is that you like the way we consume music is that you always want to make sure I'm in a position that I can have people consume my music. And so what's what's the next transition? Is it is it always going to be because I don't think we're ever going back. I don't think there's going to be some issues where you sell a couple hard copies and stuff like that.

28:34Shannon Sharpe:Nostalgia value, but we're not going. Yes, 100 percent. I mean, I believe we're in a place where if you have the influence and your artists that have been in the game, you can kind of curate your own business model when it comes to the fans that love you. Because if you have a group of fans, a couple thousand fans that's going to dive into everything you got, buy everything you got, you could make a hell of a living just off of those small numbers every month. Just keep feeding them different things, merch. You know what I mean? So for artists that have been in this game, I think this is a great time for them to really double down on the legacy and all the work they put in to continue to make money.

29:11Because you're giving it directly to the consumer. Directly.

29:14Chad Johnson:Instead of having to go through this person, that person, this. Yeah, yeah. It's way easier now because everything is on the phone. So this is as quick as you can go to iTunes. If you are an artist that has some influence, you can get the direct to consumer. They're going to go right to your website and get what they need from you. So, I mean, it's a great time if you've got hustle in you. If you don't got hustle in you, it might not work for you the way you need to. See, that's the thing you said.

29:37Shannon Sharpe:You've got to hustle. Yes. People ain't giving out free money. People not. Bro, you've got to go get it. It's out there, too, man. It's out there. It's out there. It's out there. Yes, it's out there. But you have to go get it. And, you know, the thing is, and a lot of times maybe, Jimmy, you say you've always been independent. But a lot of times the label took care of everything. They did the marketing. They did the studios. They did the collab. No, you got to do all that on your own now. But all that pie where they were taking, well, you know, we did set this collab up, and we did book this studio, and we did do this.

30:15Shannon Sharpe:By the time you get your money, you're like, well, what happened to my money? Well, we had to market it, and we had to, you know, get the radio spins, and we had to do all this and X, Y, Z. That's why you'll check little or nothing. Where if you hustle yourself. You get a piece of the pie. You get a piece of the pie. And that's what it's about. Yes, it is. So, man, I'm excited, man. Thanks for coming out, Richard. Thanks for having me, man. Really appreciate you coming out, hanging out with Boys Night Out. Netflix, thank you again. The Rip, getting ready to go see. Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Kiana Taylor, who just won an award.

30:44Shannon Sharpe:It's going to be awesome. I can't wait to see it. Let me ask you this, Jim. Let me ask you this. You walk into a room. Let's just say for the sake of argument, you are a police officer. You walk into a room,$20 million, cash, unmarked bills. you turn it all in how much do you keep um I turn in a hundred thousand dollars right now. God, shit, shit. You probably want to keep it. That's a good line of mouth, but not a line of mouth. I'm keeping 29 mil, 900 ,000, 100%. This man say he keep it. This man say he keep it 100 ,000. They're going to be investigating.

31:22Chad Johnson:He better than me. You keep it going? What? They investigating you, Ocho. I didn't know. They going to investigate you. But how they know? Hey, Joe, you know.

31:30Shannon Sharpe:Listen. Hey, what? You got me a sub, tell me this is what we found. How about we look and we didn't find anything?

31:48Chad Johnson:Yeah, that's the if it was three of us three. Yeah, and we was on duty. Yeah, we went in there and found 20 million. Yeah Yeah, we want to hold up on that call Yeah, we don't have to hold up on the car. For sure. We don't have to hold up on the car.

32:01Joe Johnson:Hold on, we don't make the car, but we got to hold up on it.

32:03Chad Johnson:No, no, no.

32:04Shannon Sharpe:Okay, it's what we going to do. It's what we do. Okay. It's$20 million. $20 million. How long you been on the 4th? You getting ready to retire, right? Yeah, yeah. I am. I just moved the process up. I was about to retire in 10 years. I just cut it down to 10 bucks. Yeah. So you getting ready to retire.

32:28Shannon Sharpe:five five and five and then we turn the rest we turn five million yeah they won't investigate us

32:34Chad Johnson:on that no they go but you can't go out there buying uh coloring and all that yeah i already got all that so no yeah no but i'm saying if you was a police officer oh okay okay okay yeah

32:45Shannon Sharpe:i'm not gonna do that you gotta leave i don't live but no i'm a police officer's pension yeah yeah because you ain't got no salary remember you got no more occupation maybe you pick up a side hustle maybe you you know you you you're a bounce or somewhere you walk in and you're working in front

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35:04Chad Johnson:You ain't got to worry about me doing that. I'm saying with that type of money, I just think being a police officer, you're going to try to buy a nice house. But you can't do none of that.

35:13Joe Johnson:No.

35:17Shannon Sharpe:What's up, man? I appreciate you. What's going on? We got another special guest joining us. Boys night out. The Rip. Yeah. What's the vibe? Man, what's good? What's good? Talk to us. Everything good. Let's rap about it, man. We out here moving. Getting to it. What you been on lately? Man, we got that podcast. Yeah. You Davey. Yeah, me. No, I'm Maino. Jimmy. Oh. Yep. Me. Go ahead. Me. How you like the podcast space so far? I love it. You lie? I love it. What do you love about it so far? I love the fact that I can be honest and I can tell all my business. Right. You can tell your story before somebody else put out half of your story.

35:54They can't use it against you when you put it out there. When you tell it yourself.

35:57Shannon Sharpe:Did you ever see yourself being a podcaster though? Well, I had a podcast before. Oh, did you? Right, so I was doing a podcast. It was called Kitchen Talk, and I did kind of good with it. Yeah. You know, I wound up doing a deal with Fox Soul. Okay. But when I did the deal with Fox Soul, it kind of changed the dynamic. It wasn't a podcast no more. Right. And then I kind of lost the heart of doing it. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So because it didn't feel fluent. Right. But with this, because we all got that relationship, it's like y 'all guys. You got a real relationship, so it's easy to kick it. So who's on your podcast?

36:29Who's with you? Me, Jim Jones, Fabulous, and Dave East.

36:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Dave East is a big deal. Because we had him all, and he was talking about doing the podcast. Right. So all four of us. So let me ask you a question. So what do you guys? You guys talk mainly music. You talk sports. What do you guys talk about? No, we talk life, man. We talk fatherhood. We talk what it is, the balance. you know life being in the industry you know and just just topics of life right you know we can't just keep it up just music everybody not gonna relate to that how often are you guys how often do you shoot the pod we shoot every week every week once every week once a week we drop and we

37:04Joe Johnson:drop it once a week when it comes when it comes to music the state of the music industry today what's your thoughts on it as opposed to what it was let's say when you first started doing talking rap yeah rap to where it is now rap is not special no more right so everybody's artist so it's not it's not it's not something you know that's looked at it's so obtainable that it's like out of reach right so when i was trying to get on i was like man getting on alone just getting a record deal alone you felt like you just hit the pros yeah right right you just like you just got a deal like you just went to the nfl or the mba but now it's just that you could just have pro tools you go in your mama basement you can make records you could go upload it on youtube and it's just not special right you know it's the quantity yeah so much of it's

37:50Chad Johnson:you know compared to being real quality rap music yeah yeah yeah yeah is uh is that what's happening is that what diluted it down i mean you got every you got more rappers than people

38:01Shannon Sharpe:on earth everybody's rapping that's what i'm saying you got more rappers than people on earth Right. Every time I turn around, and to no disrespect to nobody, because I get it. We all had a dream, and we were trying to fight our way out of something, whether it was street life or prison life, whatever it is. We were trying to make something. And everybody's still trying to make it, but the game is just not as special as it felt anymore. We need to be like, I'm a rapper. I'm like, you know what? I'm a little bit more than just that. Right. You know? Right. So what happened to the rap? somebody, I've heard Keith Sweat was talking.

38:38Shannon Sharpe:He said the reason why R &B is not special, because all you do is curse. See, R &B was supposed, he said R &B was supposed to be, I think he said like foreplay. And now you're getting straight to it. He said, ain't no buildup. Ain't no buildup. Ain't no buildup, it's just straight to it. So, I mean, the music itself, the music is supposed to be the soundtrack of our lives. Yes. Right? It's supposed to be, right? So if you're going through something, you're supposed to have something to go with that. Right? If you want to party, you're supposed to be something to go with that. Right? So when you had Pac in them, you had music that kind of, it wasn't about clubbing all the time.

39:17It was about something that you felt. Something that you related to. Something that you, you know, made you think. Right? Now it's just like, if you don't got a party song, then, and if you ain't going viral, then what? What we doing?

39:32Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, we're nobody talking about no bottle service.

39:34Joe Johnson:Right? Now that I think about it, you think about rap from the 80s. You think about rap from the 90s. Even the early 2000s, everyone had a story to tell. It was a great story. Right, right, right. That's how they grab you first. Right, right, right, right. And I'm not just talking about one song. You have some artists that have not quantity when it comes to music, but quality. Quality. Because you want to hear what story they have to tell based on life experiences. Because we tapped into those artists a lot more. You got a chance to actually know who those artists are. So the industry is not, they're not building stars no more.

40:07Right. Right? So there's so many artists right now that you're like, I don't know who this guy is. Correct. Everywhere you go, personal trip, business trip, there's rappers. Yeah. Right? And somebody might tap and say, Shannon, you know who that is? You're like, I don't know who the hell that is. No, I have. No, I have. This is what I'm trying to tell you. Right. So there's more rappers than people on the planet. So it's just not that special as it used to be, man. But I respect the game because it gave us the opportunity to be here. If it wasn't for music and the opportunity to do music and see the world, then I wouldn't be here talking to y 'all now.

40:43Shannon Sharpe:What happened to the storytellers? When rap first originated, it was storytellers. You had BDK. You had BDK. You were going to be joining us a little bit. Oh, yeah, Big Daddy K. Yeah. That's right. EPMD. EPMD. You had Rock Hill. Rock Hill. Elite storytelling. Starface. You had guys that could really tell a story. Where did those guys go with it? I feel like those guys are still there. I feel like there's still guys that still make it. Maybe Cole. Cole, definitely. It's the artists that do that, but it's just so oversaturated. You turn on your Instagram and you're seeing so much of just overstimulation.

41:26It's just too much information. Too many ads, too many artists selling something. So I think it's still there. I think if you look for it, I think you've got a lot of dope artists that still speak from their heart and make quality music, man.

41:43Chad Johnson:Yeah, I think the way we consume music nowadays. Fast, microwave. Yeah, compared to back in the day, on the radio, MTV or BET, or the box or whatever the case may be now, like you say, we consume so much. Right. You're not even asking for it. You're not even asking for it. But the thing is, you see what you said? You would discover music on the radio, right? And then you would discover it maybe if you went outside. But now it's just like, it's on its device. Handheld device. And the device is everything. We can move it differently. And it's so fast. Remember, artists was dropping albums two years.

42:24They drop an album and then tour Put out videos And in another two years they'll drop another album Now you gotta drop it every 90 days

42:32Shannon Sharpe:The only way you could consume music back then Was in your car or at home There wasn't no phone And you wait You're like oh man I just got that You could wait to pull that pay part there And punch that 8 track in Or put that seat Or the 45 you know in case you brought the 45 put the penny down so the same went hey man please still scratch my wrist right right right right those those yeah it was it's different and you know what we get that a lot um with athletes because we compare today's athletes say man i remember back in the day in the 70s and 80s and i know they get that you guys get that a lot yes uh what is it fair to compare no because it's a it's a different time yes and the dynamic is different Yes.

43:20Society is different. The environment is different. And the way we look at things, the way we look at sports, the way we listen to music. Yes. So is it fair to compare? No, it's not fair.

43:29Shannon Sharpe:And the thing, you know, the biggest thing is that now athletes have something to compare. They look at these guys. These guys are talented. The rappers now have broader vocabularies and they are able to rap about more things than those guys rapped about back in the day. It's just, it's called evolution. That's right. It doesn't matter. You look at whether it's a horse is or whatever the case may be. They've gotten better over time. But people just want to hold on to the arrow, man. That's right. It's like that common conversation of LeBron and Jordan. Right? This is what we're talking about, right?

44:05So Mike with legacy, right, in a shorter amount of time. Yeah. LeBron with a longer career.

44:14Shannon Sharpe:You know, who's right, who's wrong? Right. It's just what you like. And people are not going to let go because Michael made the shoe. People used to wear shoes just to the court. That's the only time you wore a basketball shoe. You didn't wear basketball shoes going to class or going to a club. You wore a basketball shoe. You was hooping. He made it to where we were wearing our side. Yes. It was fashionable.

44:40Chad Johnson:Once entertainers started wearing it, it was a wrap. And they started putting them in movies, guys dressing up with sneakers on. That's when we go to a whole other level. But look how the kids who wasn't even born go crazy. Go crazy over there. Yeah. That wasn't even born when these shoes came out. Nope. These kids born in the 2000s. It's like, I got the Jordans. You know what I mean?

45:00Shannon Sharpe:I mean, you remember, man, your mom and your grandma like, boy, I ain't paying no$40 for no shoes. $40. And then Jordan came out and was$100. No way. No way. Boy, you had to work so hard and so long to get$100 for a pair of shoes. Yeah,$100 shoe. Do you realize how much$100 was back in 2005? That's right. That's like, yeah,$500 now, right? Yes. That was 40 years ago. Yeah. And people were lined up. Every once in a while, you see it now, but mainly it's with a specialty shoe. This was a mass-produced shoe, and people were lined up miles just to get it. So is that a, you know, does that say something about his greatness?

45:43Oh, yeah.

45:43Joe Johnson:Yeah, absolutely. He had to be great. He had to be great. No other shoe in the history of what else?

45:52Shannon Sharpe:When athletes had shoes, when they retired, they stopped making the shoes. You look at the weapons. The weapons. The Converse. They stopped making it. The Dr. J Converse, they stopped making it. Kareem had a top 10 adidas. They stopped making them. Everybody at first was wearing the Chuck Taylors. And then the Chuck Taylors kind of went away because of the technology with Nike with the technology. Jordan was the first athlete that once he retired, his shoe became more popular once he retired than when he played. And it's like it's everlasting. It's never going to stop.

46:25Joe Johnson:He was so iconic, bro. So iconic. And the funny thing about it is the shoe he in a few years made up and the shoes continue to recycle. Yep. Yes. Right? This is what I'm saying. It's still alive. And it's the classics.

46:40Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. The ones, the twos, the fours. You know what changed it? The Concord. When he came out with that black and white pat leather. And then the brands came out in 96. It was over. And then guess what? He came out with the cool grade. Once he came out with a pat leather shoe. It was a wrap. It was over. So not only is he the most iconic player of all time. Ain't nobody talking to that. His sneaker is the most iconic.

47:10Chad Johnson:Yes.

47:11Shannon Sharpe:Same to say.

47:12Chad Johnson:They can't top it. Nobody. It's safe to say.

47:15Shannon Sharpe:Nobody's ever touching that. Nobody's ever touching that. You know what it's like? It's like Michael Jordan. You can say somebody has more talent, but you will never see an artist do what Mike did. People fell out. Mike just came on stage and stood there for 10 minutes. People passed out. Yes, Michael MJ. Wow. Because it was special then. Yes. We didn't have this device in our hand. We didn't see everything. Yeah, they were yeah, it was too much access yeah right now because it was a mystique to to the people that we You know looked up to this Superstars you didn't see him and when you really saw it meant something right because you weren't seeing on social media every day You ever was somewhere That's Michael Jordan Michael Jordan the only time you saw it was on the court.

48:04Yeah first time I seen Big Daddy Kane pulled up on my block in the Volvo, the white Volvo. Tell him I told you. Outside with cables on. Yeah. Oh my god, that's gay.

48:15Shannon Sharpe:We wasn't seeing them. Yeah. Special. Yeah. Special. DDK was that guy. Yeah. With the high top. Yeah. The suit. He was the f***ing guy with a suit. And I feel like he was the first to kind of like start doing brand stuff. Yeah, he was. He modeled with Madonna. This is what I'm saying. Stuff that people would be crucified back then, we doing it now. To broaden your horizons. Yeah. We'll get him in here. Mano, appreciate you, bro.

48:46Joe Johnson:PDK. Love. That's my dog. Good to see you, bro.

48:52Shannon Sharpe:Appreciate you, bro. Kane, that's the man.

48:58Chad Johnson:What's up, baby?

49:02Chad Johnson:OG, triple OG. Ready again?

49:06Shannon Sharpe:ah BDK hey Kane talk to us I mean this is where it all started and you and I had the conversation when you was on Club Shea Shea and you was talking about Brooklyn Bronx Boogie BDP you guys the Juice Crew all stars and all you guys talk to us about that because you said man I just wanted to rap I thought I had a talent and I just wanted to showcase that talent tell us Give our audience a little bit of how you got started in the rap game. Well, yeah. Basically, I started doing it because my older cousin was doing it. Okay. And when people in the neighborhood was telling me that I was good at it, I stuck with it.

49:48And my whole goal and objective was really just to be the best MC in the neighborhood. Right. Okay. I'm going to different projects in Brooklyn, battling people, things of that nature, trying to take out whoever the best MC in this project is, who the best MC in this high school is. And that was really all I could see until I met Biz. When I met Biz. And I met Biz when I asked him for a battle. Right. And then he told me that he'd be doing shows and asked me to get down with him. Right. And then from that point, the rest was history.

50:22Shannon Sharpe:We were talking to Mano, and when you and I talked, we talked about the storytellers. You were one of the first storytellers, a Rock Him storyteller. Slick Rick. Slick Rick. Slick Rick. A storyteller. Well, Grandmaster Kaz is the first storyteller. Okay, okay. But Slick Rick is the one that really patented and set a standard. Yeah. Here's a little story not long ago. Yeah. Well, I mean, even before that, you know, La-Di-Di-Di. La-Di-Di-Di. We like to party. And about the girl on the show, the Misha. Yeah. Yeah, yes, yes. Yeah. will we ever see rap as it once was the rap that you know the rap that you grew up with the rap that and you know 10 years when you were in will we ever see that era again that all depends on radio and media it all depends on radio and media because i see it every day okay it's here right now when you look at Lady London, when you look at Conway the Machine, Benny the Butcher, there's artists right now that's doing what we did in the 80s, what artists did in the 90s.

51:29They're just not really getting the exposure. So it's going to really be up to radio and the media. But they are here right now.

51:36Joe Johnson:You know what I think, honestly? And that's a good question that you just asked. Will music ever be like it was in the 80s and 90s? Look at fashion. Fashion is now, history repeats itself. And now we're back wearing baggy clothes. Bell Bottoms. Yeah, Bell Bottoms. We're doing some of the stuff we did in the 80s. Well, I ain't go back to the baggie yet. No, you didn't? Not yet? No, not yet. Okay, okay. You ain't going back to the Bell Bottoms? No, no, I got Bell Bottoms. Yeah, you got the Bell Bottoms. I smiled when you said that. Yeah, I got a few of those. I got you. You know, that's really 70s.

52:08Yeah. So I couldn't wait for that to come back. Yeah. Now, Polly has the Bell Bottoms with the Polly? Since 98, I've been sitting patiently waiting for Bell Bottoms.

52:16Joe Johnson:You know what I'm saying? at some point the same way fashion has, the same way everything has in general. Where, again, we will have the quality of MCs and lyricists that we're used to hearing instead of, I hate to use the word mumble rap, but at times I don't understand what people are saying. I just don't. I'm just going to be honest. And we're going to get back to our lyricists being more commercialized and sought after and being at the top of the hill. But even with radio play, BDK. Let me add on to that one second. But like I was saying, it's here. It just has to be presented mainstream. Because think about it.

52:49Now, when you talk about back then, when it was lyrical, we also had, is it,

52:56Shannon Sharpe:it's a mousse, it's a whistle, it's a whistle. So we had mumble rap too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay. You know, but I mean, it's like, I just think that it's a matter of the media and radio making it the forefront, I guess.

53:08Chad Johnson:We were just talking about, you was one of the first ones to rap and have a suit on. Like, where'd your fashion for design come from growing up? Like, what made you get up and, you know, want to rap and be decked out like that? Well, my father, you know, he was a dresser. My father, you know, he had mink and rabbit coats. He wore, like, the gaiters and the Pierre Cardin shoes. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, I didn't even know that there was a such thing as a four-piece suit. You know, until I saw my father, you know, put the wears on. Yeah, yeah. You know, the pants, the vest, the blazer, and the duster.

53:42You know, I didn't know there was a such thing as a four-piece suit. So, you know, as a little kid, you know, my pops go to work and I put one of his suits on to stand in front of the mirror and try to sing Marvin Gaye, Let's Get It On. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So I was attracted to that fashion from childhood.

53:56Shannon Sharpe:Oh, but Marvin was a guy, Marvin Gaye, Sam Cooke dressed on stage, but it was different. They weren't rappers. They were singers. They were crooners. But you were talking about the commercialization and getting back to producing music. but when we get when we actually get into our cars now do we still consume music the same way or do we go to a specific station to listen to a specific genre of music because when I get in all I listen to is the grooves all I want to go with me, us, you I mean you actually listen to the radio well we 50 plus who you referring to do you think young like 20s enough No, because I have a 13-year-old son.

54:46And when I let him control the radio, yeah, he's a DJ. It's like, we listening to this. That song go off, he turned to another station. That go off, he turned to another station. That go off, he switched to media and put his phone on. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, he just all over the place.

55:03Shannon Sharpe:So it's really hard because, you know, man, we turned to our favorite station with our 93.1. and they just hit. You just jam it. I'm going to tell you something. And I rarely talk about this because I know people clown me for it. But right now, in 2026, I still have an iPod in my car. It still work? Do it still work? Let me explain something to you.

55:29Joe Johnson:I mean, but the car, obviously... No, no, no. Listen, all you got to do is just light into USB-C. Oh, yeah. You got to have a cord. Okay, okay, okay. USB-C into the car, and then the lightning into the iPod. And I will sit in my house and put together a nine-hour playlist and drive from North Carolina to New York, listening to that one playlist. So right now I have WBDK in my car, my own radio station. You understand me? Yeah.

56:00Shannon Sharpe:Kay, we talked about, like, when we... It was cool to go to the Le Mans and Pop shop, put the record on, put the hip on, you could listen to it. And you know what I'm saying? It was something special about that. The incense were burning and you know, hey, make me an 8-track. And so you get all your favorites, put them on that 8-track, you good to go. Then it came to CD. I miss that. There are no more Tile records. Yeah, they do have a couple of mommy shots where you go thumb through, because it was something to go thumb through those those. And look at the 45s. Yeah, go crate digging.

56:34Joe Johnson:Don't forget about the jukebox. The jukebox. Those we used to do in the diner. Yes. After the club, you're in the diner. You put money in the jukebox.

56:45Shannon Sharpe:Put a quarter in that thing and play. The mom and pop shop. You miss those days, Cade? Absolutely. Absolutely. Because they focused on a lot of new talent, not just what was mainstream on the radio. You can learn about new R &B artists, new rap artists from the mom and pop shop stores. artists that didn't have the record stands and the Sam Goodies or the Coconuts. Yep. You know what I miss the most? And this generation will never know. Soul Train. Soul Train introduces you to more artists than any other. Soul Train and American Bandstand. And everybody would run home because you know at 12 o 'clock or 1 o 'clock Soul!

57:34Shannon Sharpe:Woo! The hipest trip in America. Oh, yeah. Nah, it was beautiful, man. I mean, I used to love watching Soul Train in the Soul Train line. Oh, when they come down the line? You know, even though the Scrabble Boy was always easy to figure out. Yeah. But still just to see it. Yeah. You know, I mean, that and hearing all the music. Because you had artists performing their hits. But the dancers throughout the episode was dancing to a lot of B-side cuts that you may have never heard. Correct. So it's introducing each other, you know. And to see those artists get up there, whether it was Barry White or Teddy Pendergrass, Harold Melvin and the Blue Nose, the stylistic.

58:12I mean, it was just like, but I do know this.

58:16Shannon Sharpe:The big bands, they're not coming back. Oh, no. Let me ask you this. And this is what I came, and I wanted to ask you this. You remember when the duets, you had Rufus and Shaka. You had Peaches and Herds. You had Renee and Angela. You had Stephanie Mills and Teddy Pendergrass. You had Fire and Ice, Tina Marie and Rick James. Oh, my goodness. We ain't never getting that back. Will we ever see duo clear like that again? I would hope so. I think that something like that may happen for a project. Yeah. Not as a group that want to make a career of it. But I think something like that may happen as a project.

58:57Yeah.

58:59Shannon Sharpe:Marvin Gaye and Tammy Terrell I mean Barry White Glodine Barry and Glodine Their song together, You is one of my favorites

59:11Joe Johnson:The funny thing about it is everything you just named Ohio Players, the Isley Brothers the sound of music has evolved to where those that even have the ability to sing in those groups don't even sound like that or the music they make it sounds nothing like it did back then Yeah, I still go. Like, that music is timeless.

59:30Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. In any era, you're going to be able to listen to it. That big band in the 70s when you had the Ohio Players, you had Earth, Wind & Fire, you had KC and the Sunshine Band, you had the Bar Caves, you had Lakeside, you had the Stylistics. That's... Oh, yeah. Bam! You had the Commodores. Yeah. Before Lionel Whitney, you had LTD. Before he... What was the lead singer of LTD? Jeffrey Osborne. Jeff Beardborn. Before he left. Oh, that's classic. Well, you know, I grew up listening to a lot of that real deep soul. So, like, you know, a lot of my favorite singers were, like, you know, Marvin Gaye, David Ruffin.

1:00:14Yeah, okay, okay. Willie Hutch. Okay. Bobby Womack. Oh, yeah. You know, yeah. You know, Wilson Pickett. Yep. You know, I love those raspy voices, you know. Yeah.

1:00:26Shannon Sharpe:those guys and like you said I don't know if we're ever gonna see the duet like you said maybe for a project yeah for a project but it used to be the hero Stephanie Mills and Marvin Gaye and Teddy Pendergrass and Stephanie Mills and she this big and voice was this big oh I need to see I need to see I need to see her in concert. I really need to know. No, she tears it down. Oh, yeah. Like certain artists from that era right now still tear. Stephanie Mills, Evelyn Champagne King, Sheila E. Shane. Sheila E, nice.

1:01:09Chad Johnson:They're cutting up to this day. Just to this day. Like, let me tell you something, man. Back in 1987, there was a club called the Red Parrot in New York. I had a show there with Evelyn Champagne King. and they wanted the promoter and my manager wanted me to close the show. The promoter. Evelyn Champagne King manager wanted her to close. So I just happened to come to Soundcheck. And I'm like Evelyn Champagne King is a legend, man. I don't want to go on after her. I'll pay homage. She need to close. I'm glad I did that. Bruh, when I tell you dancing, then just left the microphone, started shaking the tambourine, playing the bongos and all that.

1:01:54She got busy.

1:01:58Shannon Sharpe:Those Rolls Royce was another group. And you wait, you go home because you didn't know who was going to be on Soulja. It's not like now they were promoted. You just watch Soul Train and then who came was who came. And boy, you were just by that TV like... And especially the episodes when Dawn opened up the mic and let you sing for real. What? You talking about that long stick mic? No, I mean, like, you know, most people's lip syncing. So when he opened up the mic for people like Stevie Wonder, Minnie Rippleton, James Brown, let them sing for real. Boy, when Minnie Rippleton said loving you, that's my root of mother.

1:02:34Loving you.

1:02:36Shannon Sharpe:It's easy. Those women have voices. Tina Marie? Legend. Ain't nobody knew she was white. Boy, somebody, oh, she white? Get out of my faith. That woman ain't white. Not singing like that. Not singing that soulful. Yeah, that one was hard to believe. But yeah, she was a serious soul singer. Gina was the truth, man. Rest in peace. What is it about women that soulful? Because most of these women were tiny, tiny women. Huge voices. With huge, huge voices. What is it about a voice in that frame? I mean, I don't know. I mean, you know, I can't really explain, you know, their anatomy. me, but I would assume that church had a lot to do with it.

1:03:22Yes. Yes. I would assume that church had a lot to do with it.

1:03:25Joe Johnson:Especially when you think about Fantasia.

1:03:28Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Jennifer Hudson. Yes. But all those, you know, Aretha Franklin, all those women, Gladys Knight, all those women came. Whitney came to church background. All of them came up in the church. Yeah, yeah, no, man, listen. Fantasia made me move in my seat, man. I had to catch myself, man. I'm serious. We was doing a Patti LaBelle tribute some years ago.

1:03:49Joe Johnson:Oh, Patti knows she could sing. And Fantasia started blowing, and I caught myself. I'm like, no, you're not going to have me doing that. Like, I was sitting there squirming in the seat. I'm like, no, she can have me doing that. She can go there. Yeah. Oh, yeah, she can. You know who else? We'll throw this out there. One of the best voices of all time. All time. Yeah. Kiki Wyatt. Oh, Kiki Wyatt is amazing. Yeah. She's amazing. Amazing. I mean, there's so many young singers today with spectacular voices. Fantasia, Kiki White, Jennifer Hudson, Lila James. Jasmine Sullivan. Jasmine Sullivan. Yeah, yeah.

1:04:29There's a lot of them out there. You still get excited to hear new music like you did when you first got into it? Absolutely. Because of what you were saying, how it is today. A lot of people, most people like singing in auto-tunes, and a lot of people, blowing ain't really in style no more. So when I do see a young artist doing something like that, I'm amazed. I gravitate to it.

1:04:53Shannon Sharpe:You know what? I had T-Pain on, and I didn't know T-Pain could really, really sing. Me neither. I didn't know T-Pain could really, really sing. I mean, as far as rappers, he and CeeLo Green. CeeLo Green can really sing. Yeah, CeeLo Green is a problem. And he said, I said, well, I said, Payne, you got a voice. You can really, really sing. He said, but ain't nobody paying for that. He said, they paying for this. He said, I had to give them what they wanted. Yes, I mean, you go back and listen to some of his covers that he's done. He did the Sam Cooke version. He did Sam Smith version. Now, I listened to that whole last project he put out.

1:05:37That's amazing. Like you said, I didn't know he could blow like that. Yeah. He can get down.

1:05:43Shannon Sharpe:BDK, the legend, Big Daddy Kane. Bro, appreciate you, man. All the best. Thank you, bro. Good to see you again.

1:05:50Joe Johnson:All right, everyone. Good to see you.

1:05:52Shannon Sharpe:Big Daddy Kane. Love you. Man, it's always like when you grow up, and you meet these guys. I mean, I grew up with Big Daddy Kane. That's my era. Me too. That's my era. And to see him and to rock him and the Slick Ricks and all those guys that obviously have a relationship with Scarface, those storytellers. It's kind of like in the comedic world, you look at Dick Gregory really was the first one, and then you had a Cosby, and then you had Richard Pryor, and now you got Chappelle, George Carlin, Louis C.K., Bill Burr, someone like that. Guys that not only make you laugh, but they make you think, and they talk about things that actually happen in society.

1:06:39Shannon Sharpe:And right now, you know, Chappelle's at the top of that list. And when you had guys like BDK and these other guys that could tell you a story and make you think, you're like, okay. And they rap in such a cadence, like you said. You could understand. After I heard him about three or four times, I know exactly what they say. I bring that back. Go word for word. Some of these guys I listened to a thousand times. I still couldn't tell you what you said.

1:07:05Chad Johnson:That's because what they're talking about is not relatable. Right. It's not relatable to you. You know what I mean? What those dudes were talking about back in the day, you can understand, you can relate. How they talking about?

1:07:15Shannon Sharpe:We don't. I don't age, I don't phased out or whatever the case may be, but it's not the same anymore. Yeah. Man, we were talking about if we went to a room, We're all police officers, federal agents, and we walk into a room. $20 million on the table. Us three.

1:07:36Joe Johnson:We can go ahead. Hold on. Matter of fact, let me help the people get y 'all some visuals. Yeah, good. That prop. Yeah, yeah.

1:07:43Chad Johnson:The prop.

1:07:49Shannon Sharpe:DJ, what's up, baby? Good to see you, man. I'm doing amazing. What's up, baby? Good to see you, bro. How you doing, man? You good? I'm doing great. I'm doing great. How you doing?

1:07:58Joe Johnson:Thank you.

1:07:58Shannon Sharpe:Happy New Year. You have a seat right there, bro.

1:08:00Joe Johnson:Yeah. I got a great question. Yes, sir. Bring a couple more. It's snacks.

1:08:13Joe Johnson:What's up, baby? You good? Good to see you. Talk to me. Go ahead and lead it off, bro. The money right there. We're going to hypothetically.

1:08:22Shannon Sharpe:We're police officers. Okay. We walk into a room and there's$20 million in unmarked currency. It's sitting right there. It's sitting right there on the table. It's sitting right here. There you go. Right there. Ain't nobody called it in. Ain't nobody called it in. No cameras. No cameras. No cameras. We walk in there together. Yep. $20 million. Okay. Unmarked bill. So they're non-sequential because that gets you in trouble. You got to be careful with that. But anyway, so we walk into the room. What's our next play team? We could take.

1:08:55Turning something, right? There's going to be someone, I'm saying you can push it on.

1:08:59Shannon Sharpe:This ninja going to get us federal time.

1:09:02Joe Johnson:20 will get you knocked, right? Five. Hold on. You got to think about it. They sent us. They sent us folks to go see if there's something in there. Right? Yes. There are no cameras. No. So all we have is each other. Yes. Your word. Your trust. Your trust in me. If it's 20 million in there, we taking the whole 20. and we splitting in five? Oh, no. I'm good. I'm out.

1:09:23Shannon Sharpe:I'm out. I got to go. I'm gone. I don't know, sir.

1:09:29Joe Johnson:So we turn in 15 and we split five? No. No. No.

1:09:34Shannon Sharpe:We turn it in five. We turn it in five. Yes. Yes.

1:09:40Joe Johnson:That make me a little more comfortable. Yeah, but yeah, you can't.

1:09:43Chad Johnson:We're going to be under surveillance for a minute, though. Yeah. If we turn in five, they going to be wondering. Hold on.

1:09:50Shannon Sharpe:That's it? Was it a little more than that? No. That's all we got. It wasn't? No, it wasn't. It wasn't. This is everything we got, boss. And we got to, because, you know, I'm 10 years away from retirement, but now I'm 10 months away from retirement. So I'm going to have to live on a police picture. Yeah. And I don't know how much, listen, if you 10 years from retirement and it turned into

1:10:13Chad Johnson:10 months, oh yeah, they're going to investigate it. And we don't know where the money comes from. We don't know whose it is.

1:10:18Shannon Sharpe:No, we don't know whose it is. We just know it's not ours. Who is unimportant at this point in time? Y 'all making all the money. It could be yours. You might have both of y 'all. Y 'all got so much coming in. You might have left some. No, but we police officers. We police officers. We police officers. We police officers. Yeah, we police officers. Yeah, yeah. I think 3.7 per, I think we can make that work.

1:10:42Chad Johnson:Now what we got to do is we got to hope one person out of the group just don't go haywire and go to doing something and ain't got no business. Yeah. Yeah. Because one person, they're going to be on all of us because they've just sent all of us now. They see Ocho done bought him a brand new house and all that. I'm going. I live in Dubai now. I'm out of here.

1:11:01Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. We in trouble. We in trouble. We smoke. We smoke. Guys, we done. We in trouble. We in trouble. My officer, I'm out. I'm not. I'm not. Man on a police salary in Dubai. Go on. What police officer you know in Dubai? We in trouble. We in trouble. He's going to get us. Yeah, you, yes. Who are you guys after my three, four, five, mate? Oh, man. That's why we got to know who we dealing with before we going there. Yeah, y 'all just go ahead. I'm going to go. Y 'all let me know what y 'all done and I can call it in. Oh, man. Man, how you doing, bro? I'm blessed, man. I'm so happy to see y 'all, man.

1:11:38Good to see my family. It's good to see you as well.

1:11:42Shannon Sharpe:We're talking hypothetical because of the movie, The Rip, with Ben Affleck, Matt Dane, Tiana Taylor. And they go into a room and there's $20 million in cash. And they're police officers. How much do you take? How much do you keep? Do you take it all? And, you know, I understand people like me, they dirty. Bro,$20 million? $20 million.

1:12:09Joe Johnson:It's about changing your life. That's life-changing money. That's life-altering money that you would never have the opportunity to make or let alone earn. Yeah. This is about...

1:12:22Shannon Sharpe:Whatever I owe you, you can take it right out of there. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. That's$50 ,000. So can you imagine $20 million just like this? You can't imagine that. One thing I've learned is that nothing is for free.

1:12:36Joe Johnson:Everything comes with a price. Come on now. So, I mean, if it's there, I understand maybe you, carve out a little something, but you got to watch out. We're getting too greedy.

1:12:49Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. That's why we turned it in five million. If we were greedy, we'd take it all. But you know, hey, I got to get my 10%. I got to get 10 % over time because if I get 10 % at one time, they're going to know something. They're going to know something up. But I definitely break the church off. Mount Zion Missionary, Number One Baptist Church. They're going to finally get that building paid for. They will get that building done. That building part just became complete. But, man, thank you for joining us on Boys Night Out, man. I really appreciate that, man. Thanks for stopping by. We can't wait to get over to the facility and check this movie out.

1:13:27Shannon Sharpe:Meet the guys on the red carpet. Terrence J. Love and respect. Thank you, bro. Appreciate you. It's good to see you, baby. Always a pleasure. Yes, sir. Where's Ocho? Okay.

1:13:38Chad Johnson:You know, he got that little weak bladder.

1:13:41Shannon Sharpe:Mm-hmm. I am?

1:13:42Joe Johnson:All right.

1:13:43Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:13:44Joe Johnson:Good morning, people. How you doing, queen?

1:13:49Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:13:52Joe Johnson:Oh, what a beautiful day.

1:13:54Shannon Sharpe:So now we're going to find out what they actually do in that situation.

1:13:59Chad Johnson:Oh, we already know. Oh, we get to watch the whole thing out? I can take it again. Yeah.

1:14:05Chad Johnson:Anybody in their right mind, we know what's going on.

1:14:10Shannon Sharpe:I guess it...

1:14:16Shannon Sharpe:No. I guess you have to get in the front, Jordan. What a friendly job.

1:14:33Yo.

1:14:35Joe Johnson:Oh, appreciate that. Appreciate it. You know, I got some special stuff in there. Here.

1:15:06Yeah. Okay.

1:15:09Shannon Sharpe:Ocho don't got a pop. Yeah.

1:15:11Joe Johnson:Nah, we don't get popped. Listen, we not going to get popped simply because I'm the cheapest one out of all of us. Joe live in the property. Chill out. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. And I'm, you know, I'm the simple one.

1:15:23Shannon Sharpe:We police officers.

1:15:24Joe Johnson:We ain't living like that. We ain't living like that. Okay. So how we living?

1:15:29Shannon Sharpe:How police officers live.

1:15:30Joe Johnson:I mean, all of them live kind of different. Depending on how much they make.

1:15:34Shannon Sharpe:Or take.

1:15:39Shannon Sharpe:Nah. I think, you know, what's a good police seller? $150 ,000 a year? Okay,$150 ,000 a year.

1:15:47Joe Johnson:I'm living way below that.

1:15:49Chad Johnson:So with$5 million on you in cash, you got to go stash it somewhere because you can't go put that in the bank. I know where to put it. Where you going to put it?

1:15:57Joe Johnson:I'm going to have dogs, right? Both of y 'all got dogs, right? Yeah. They be outside or inside?

1:16:01Shannon Sharpe:A little bit of both.

1:16:02Joe Johnson:Okay, do they have somewhere they sit when they outside lay down?

1:16:05Shannon Sharpe:They be all over the place.

1:16:07Joe Johnson:No, I'm just saying. I'm saying you ain't got no kennel outside.

1:16:10Shannon Sharpe:No, no

1:16:17Shannon Sharpe:It's gotta it ain't gonna be at my property that's the first thing they gonna come dig it up

1:16:21Chad Johnson:Where you gonna keep yours at?

1:16:23Shannon Sharpe:I can't tell you that

1:16:29I don't know what I'm saying.

1:16:29Shannon Sharpe:Man, come on, man. Oh, man. Think about where I keep it at.

1:16:36Chad Johnson:Ain't no telling. See, we already got conflicts already. I don't really know what's going to be going on. You know what I mean? Look, I don't want to know where you keep your money.

1:16:45Joe Johnson:I got to wash my back, make sure nobody... See, we can't operate like that. We can't be keeping nothing from each other now. Yes, we can. If we're stealing$20 million, now they got to be some type of trust. We ain't stealing$20 million. We stealing$15 million.

1:16:56Shannon Sharpe:$15 million. There you go. That's what I'm talking about, Joe. That's what I'm talking about.

1:17:00Joe Johnson:See, I'm going to have to take both of y 'all out.

1:17:03Chad Johnson:I'm taking both of y 'all out.

1:17:04Shannon Sharpe:Joe, I just think we ought to leave the money. And hopefully we come across some more money at a later date. No, no, no, no, no.

1:17:10Chad Johnson:We can't leave that. We get an opportunity of a lifetime and we don't run across this money. We just need Ocho to do right. He ain't.

1:17:17Joe Johnson:Why it got to be me to do right? Y 'all need to do right. We not come across that kind of money. in no other time. You take advantage of an opportunity like that.

1:17:25Shannon Sharpe:Well, OK, I just...

1:17:27Joe Johnson:God's sending you a message, and then you go ignore it.

1:17:29Chad Johnson:See, we know you're going to go start buying all them Chrome hearts and all that. Me? Yes. I'm the chief one out the group. No, you're not. No, no. I'm the chief one. Because you know you got to put that shit on. You know how you go. I got to put it on, yeah. You know what I mean?

1:17:42Shannon Sharpe:You got to put it on. Yeah, yeah, you know. Man, I got to be COVID to be, yeah. I got to be COVID now. You know, that's got to be me. Come on, Ojo.

1:17:52Joe Johnson:That's not me. I don't like that.

1:17:54Chad Johnson:Nah. Boy gone, they got him a whole new set of frames. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see how you come. I already know what going on.

1:18:02Joe Johnson:Listen, I mean, everybody know that's not me.

1:18:04Shannon Sharpe:That's you.

1:18:04Joe Johnson:Listen, I'm a minimalist. Everything I do, I do in a simple fashion. Now, I can't help that when I put it on, it look a certain way. See, that's the problem.

1:18:13Chad Johnson:Okay. I appreciate that.

1:18:14Joe Johnson:It looks like I done something, but it's just me. It's my aura. It's the way I carry myself.

1:18:23Chad Johnson:I just don't have to look over my shoulder in five minutes, man. Knowing I done a little dirt with y 'all.

1:18:30Joe Johnson:Yeah, it ain't me. You ain't got to worry about me, bro.

1:18:34Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, we do. We actually do got to worry about you, actually. That's the only one I'm worried about. Hey, so you know I'm closed lip over here. Shardy, how you doing? I'm not. I'm not. I'm all right. What you feeling? Now all of a sudden you can't talk. I'm all right. You talked the third most in here behind Ocho and I, and now you ain't got nothing to say. I'm, praise the Lord, so happy to be here tonight. Yes. The R.I.P. World premiere.

1:19:05Chad Johnson:Yes. Hello. You guys are watching the perfect. Man. We're going to be with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon.

1:19:12Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Tayana Taylor. Tayana Taylor. All the stars. It's going to be amazing. Rekhajay. It's going to be a good night. Y 'all ready? Yes. It's going to be a pile of money. What y 'all going to do on a perfect. Well, you know what? It's going to be a pile of money on a perfect. You know, we going to include you, Shade. We coming to this room at$20 million. Me, you, Joe, and Ocho. OK. How much we taking? All of it. God damn it! I can't do it.

1:19:39Chad Johnson:Shade can't be with us. Nah, Shade.

1:19:42Shannon Sharpe:Shade, nah. No, hell no. Nah, Shade.

1:19:44Chad Johnson:Why not? They going to be on our ass. You know what?

1:19:49Joe Johnson:We're going to have to kill them too.

1:19:50Chad Johnson:See what I'm talking about? We're going to have to knock them two off. See what I'm talking about? Because it's Miami and there's a lot of different swamps. Hey, nobody ever found that.

1:19:58Shannon Sharpe:Hey, we had this conversation. You got to leave something. Why? Because it looks great. Oh, man, these four officers, the integrity. Do you know what it took for these officers to see this money and to turn it in? And we stand there, they're going to give us a medal. They're going to give us a medal.

1:20:19Joe Johnson:What are we going to do with that? That medal ain't paying no bills?

1:20:21Shannon Sharpe:We got$5 million. But there's a medal of honor and there's a medal from the community. That's the one we want. Right? We want a medal from the community. Granted, it's business. But it's cultural currency. That's what we want. You want to say you can't touch the community. We got... Our day. Because you're going to go into the community, Shannon, with your money. Right? you're going to say community no I ain't going to say nothing you're not going to say nothing? no the community ain't going to know nothing about this money not even just a little

1:20:55Chad Johnson:I got to know I got to know who got good poker faces who ain't going to crack under pressure like all that going to come in the account

1:21:04Shannon Sharpe:yeah absolutely well you already know they greedy

1:21:09Joe Johnson:we're not greedy we just understand the situation you don't need that kind of money Yes, you do. You leave that kind of money on the table. Okay, okay.

1:21:15Shannon Sharpe:How you said it was when you go on the field, you give it your all, right? You don't leave a little back. No, no. Right? But I'm trying to win. You see me, you putting that ball out there. You don't say, like, oh, I'm going to leave a little bit for me, and I'm going to leave the rest on the field. Well, the thing is that you don't really try to hold a guy and throw the guy down because you'll get a flag. But if I give him a little tug, they might let me go with that. If I throw the guy down, they're going to throw a punity. Everything's on the line. You've got to put it all on the field.

1:21:42Chad Johnson:You can't put 95%. We're about to put another 5%. So tell me what you're going to do with your$5 million, Sade. I'm going to put it into my community because I know I feel like I would have to be involved with my community. But you're a police officer with$5 million. They don't know you got it. What you plan on doing with it again?

1:22:01Shannon Sharpe:So that's what police officers do, huh? Okay. But I would just be Sade who just so happens to be a police officer. Oh, okay. It's still rooted in who you are. Right? Because the police officer doesn't define you. Yeah, we going to jail. Let me tell you what else you root. The job don't define you. You define the job. Let me tell you what else you rooted in. The penitentiary.

1:22:26Chad Johnson:Yeah. And we all going down. They catch Sade. I see them right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unk, Ocho, Joe. Joe, Joe. What?

1:22:32Joe Johnson:I ain't got nothing to do with that. Yeah, yeah, you do. I'm going to be at the nearest McDonald's going through the draft and nothing's going to change. They going to go get you?

1:22:39Chad Johnson:No where? Sade, Sade. She gonna snitch on us? Yeah. Ooh, why would I do that? You putting your money in the community. I'm like, Sade, where you getting that money from? My name's Church with a T to take the charge. Ooh. OK.

1:22:52Shannon Sharpe:OK. OK. Me and Steve, me and Chad, we on the campaign. I'm changing my number. Y 'all can't call me, because I already know y 'all got the setup. I know y 'all wired. And so when y 'all call me, Joe, I'm changing my number.

1:23:07All right, we're here.

1:23:09Chad Johnson:Yes. Red carpet time. Well, we finna see what's about to go down

1:23:25Shannon Sharpe:I'm good. How are you?

1:23:44I got another market. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1:23:49Chad Johnson:Come on, I got you. I'll sign it.

1:23:55Thank you. Thank you. Can I get one? Woo. Woo. It ain't working, bro.

1:24:00Shannon Sharpe:Woo.

1:24:04Woo.

1:24:06Chad Johnson:Woo. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much.

1:24:15Chad Johnson:I got you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. There you go. I got you. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Right over here. That's right. Thank you. Thank you so much. Mr. Sharp over here please Big hand For the Melanitas brothers For the Melanitas brothers Please Please Mr. Sharp

1:24:50Shannon Sharpe:We're here at the premiere, I'm on the red carpet We're getting ready to go in and premiere the movie The Rip with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon I can't wait to see it

1:25:07Thank you.

1:25:12Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Check. Check. Check.

1:25:25Hi.

1:25:29How are you? Good. Good.

1:25:36Okay, so I'm gonna walk them first and then bring them in. Okay, so I'm gonna have you guys do your solos first. Okay. And then we have. Okay. Okay.

1:26:15Shannon Sharpe:Excuse me.

1:26:18Chad Johnson:Man, look at all that money. 20 million right now.

1:26:23Shannon Sharpe:What's up, bro? Chef Merrill, baby, get to meet you. Thank you, bro. Nice to meet you, bro. Thank you. Y 'all ain't gonna know what to do with it. Y 'all ain't gonna know what to do with that.

1:26:35Huh? Yeah, yeah, we're taking some. We're taking some.

1:26:39Shannon Sharpe:We're just gonna take you in the Brooklyn. We're out of time. I'll check y 'all. I'll check y 'all. Yeah, yeah.

1:26:49Chad Johnson:You can't even imagine having that type of cold cash. What you gonna do there, huh?

1:26:57Shannon Sharpe:In the flesh. Not doing anything with Sade and Ocho. That's what I'm not gonna do. Me and Chad on the same page. We don't need you to be on the same page. Y 'all.

1:27:23Oh, man, this shit gonna be nice. This shit hit fire. Yeah.

1:27:37How good of a room was your guys? I know y 'all gotta take shots, because Meryl got his job on Hot 97. No, we gotta take shots, we gotta celebrate Meryl. Meryl's on Hot 97 now?

1:27:51Shannon Sharpe:I see that, I saw that. He's the voice of New York, right?

1:27:59Come on, let's go. I feel it, y 'all. We're awesome, bro. Okay, so, here's the guy. Okay. So, solo, solo, solo. And then you guys are going to come together. Okay. Good.

1:28:20You're going to do solo? Where you been? I've been waiting for you.

1:28:26Chad Johnson:I told him I'd pull up on you. I'm the captain. Because every time you come up, he comes up in every fucking story. Every time we talk about, yo, who's the top? Fuck if I still know your time, right? Yeah, all the time I love watching.

1:28:55The whole time. Of you? Rickie's now totally

1:29:03Chad Johnson:highlight, bro, and they look when I I was a rookie dog. He used to fuck with me so much. He used to, like, you know, haze me so much. So to have that moment on his ass, hell yeah. Bro, that shit is forever. All right. Shit. Hey, check on you. You go, you should be put top ankle breakers. That's up there. Every time. It don't matter if it's top 20, top 10, top 5. I'm like, yo. Bro, I was. I hated boys. I was like, I was.

1:29:37Yes, sir.

1:29:49Chad Johnson:Somebody got that gas. Somebody got that gas.

1:30:13Thank you.

1:30:20Yeah. Yeah.

1:30:23Chad Johnson:I'm excited, too. I've seen the trailer on this. It's going to be crazy. It's going to be crazy. I'm happy to be a part of it.

1:30:45Chad Johnson:Where you want me at?

1:31:01Okay. Okay.

1:31:10Okay. Stand right here. Okay. Okay.

1:31:19Okay.

1:31:36Yes. Yes.

1:31:41Chad Johnson:Oh, they're all right. Where I'm at? Right on the money. Right on the money. What are you doing, your tippy toe?

1:32:23Chad Johnson:Hold cash. Get together right there.

1:32:32Get them toes.

1:32:34Joe Johnson:Right here, guys.

1:32:42About to get to climb the money.

1:32:49All right. You know how you got this money pile? Money pile. Money pile. Money pile. Money pile.

1:32:56Chad Johnson:Wow. Yeah. Yeah. We done walked in the room. I'm talking about. This is literally 20 million. Woo, shit. I'm going to be like this here. OK. So we got too many. Y 'all can throw it. Oh, you got the bricks. This fake money? That shit look real as hell. This right here, her hand? No, Chad. I'm going to give Chad the cash. You can throw this. That's real, that's real, that Ojo. You just have you guys like right behind the title name? Here's more cash, you have to break them over the phone. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Is that real? Hell no. Oh yeah, there ain't no muscle paper. So one point.

1:33:49Yeah.

1:33:51Chad Johnson:Like we had the strip club with them ballet dancers. Be at Ocho.

1:33:57Joe Johnson:How you doing with them? I ain't throwing nothing. I'm keeping everything. I ain't throwing Nathaniel. You good?

1:34:05Shannon Sharpe:Bands. Oh, you like you done that before.

1:34:10Chad Johnson:You got some experience with that.

1:34:29Chad Johnson:I keep this one for myself.

1:34:36Think about it.

1:34:38Shannon Sharpe:This is actually$20 million in cash. Now, three people, me, Ocho, and Joe, we can easily take$5 million apiece, leave$5 million. Everybody's happy. But no, not this one.

1:34:54Chad Johnson:No, hey, hey, you know you got to. We need to take it all. It's going to be at least one person out of the group you're going to have to worry about. That's just how it go. That's just how it go. We know what it is. Hey, Joe. You know what to do?

1:35:05Shannon Sharpe:Just eliminate them, too. I'm just letting you know. Hey.

1:35:08Chad Johnson:We might have to knock that joke off.

1:35:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, for sure. I just go ahead and make peace with the decisions. I'm gonna have to make It is what it is, huh? Don't worry about it Don't worry about it Don't worry about it

1:35:26Joe Johnson:It depends on how Joe moves and if he's on the plane, he's got the Ocho.

1:35:29Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, I might be taking 15 holes and turning 5. I don't know what Ocho don't want to do. I don't know what he's doing.

1:35:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Guys, we really want to thank you guys for joining Ocho and I and Joe for the grand premiere of The Rip starring Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. Hey,$20 million. The question is, if you and a partner, three people, walk into a room, this is$20 million in cash, how much do you keep? How much do you turn in? Tune in to find out the real. Ocho Joe, we out. Peace.

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