NFL ’25 BEST MOMENTS Part 1: Micah TRADED, Chase SPITTING & LYING, Caleb Williams OT thriller vs Packers

8 Jan 2026 · 1 h 19 min · 24 chapters

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In short

The hosts break down NFL “best moments” from two storylines: the Dallas Cowboys trading Micah Parsons to the Green Bay Packers (and what it says about Jerry Jones), plus Jamar Chase’s one-game suspension for spitting and the Bears’ Caleb Williams OT win over the Packers.

Guests

Matt Rogers (Las Culturistas) and Bowen Yang (Las Culturistas). No other guests appear in the transcript.

Guest backgrounds

Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang are comedians/podcast hosts known for Las Culturistas.

Key claims

  1. Jerry Jones’ trade rationale (“we need to stop the run”) is portrayed as ego-driven and inconsistent with Cowboys history of being run-heavy.
  2. The trade is framed as a mismatch in “transformational” value: Kenny Clark is “good” but not Micah Parsons’ generational impact.
  3. Jones is accused of negotiating around Micah’s representation/agent, with the NFL PA having limited recourse.
  4. Jamar Chase’s spitting incident is treated as uncharacteristic; the best fix is behavior change, not a defining narrative.
  5. Caleb Williams’ Bears are credited for major improvement (offensive line revamp, new center/guards/tackle, and rookie tight end).

Notable examples

  • Micah Parsons trade details: 4 years, $188M; $120M guaranteed at signing; $136M total guaranteed; Cowboys receive two first-round picks plus DT Kenny Clark.
  • Chase suspension: one game costing $448,333 plus $58,824 roster bonus; appeal planned.
  • Bears vs Packers: OT walk-off; Caleb Williams 19/34, 250 yards, 5 TD, no sacks/no turnovers; DJ Moore 5-97 with a TD; Bears win after Packers fumble and a key face-mask penalty.

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Chapters

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The Micah Parsons Trade Analysis

3:34 to 5:30

An in-depth discussion on the implications of Micah Parsons' trade to the Packers.

“The Packers handed Michael Parsons the largest contract for a non-quarterback in NFL history.”

Jerry Jones and Team Dynamics

5:32 to 14:02

Exploring Jerry Jones' management style and its impact on team performance.

“So if you felt that way, why were you trying to sign him?”

Jerry's Decisions and Micah's Loyalty

14:02 to 19:08

The hosts discuss Jerry Jones' handling of player contracts and Micah's desire to stay with the Cowboys.

“I can't believe Jerry said some of the things he said for it to even get to this point.”

Player Trades and Team Dynamics

19:08 to 27:16

They reflect on the impact of trades on player perception and team cohesion, especially regarding Micah Parsons.

“Micah ain't, I mean, and it probably, look, he got enough money.”

Jamar Chase's Suspension Discussion

31:07 to 33:56

Explore the implications of Jamar Chase's recent suspension.

“Oh, Joe, Jamar Chase, we had this conversation last night.”

Defining Moments and Player Behavior

33:56 to 36:18

Discuss how player behavior defines their career moments.

“This is not going to be your defining moment.”

Triple Crown Comparisons

36:18 to 37:31

Learn about the challenges of achieving the Triple Crown in sports.

“That's why it doesn't happen that often.”

Experiences at Major Sporting Events

37:31 to 41:40

Hear about personal experiences at events like the Kentucky Derby.

“For a man and a woman, it's all about – I've seen women come with some hat and be barefooted.”

Horse Riding and Family Interests

41:40 to 42:04

Discover a family's journey into horse riding and interests.

Christmas Surprise: Getting a Horse

42:04 to 44:36

The hosts discuss the idea of getting a horse as a Christmas gift, highlighting costs and considerations.

“It's like, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.”
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NFL Highlights: Bears vs. Packers

47:44 to 56:00

The hosts analyze the thrilling game between the Bears and Packers, discussing key moments and player performances.

“They elected the Green Bay to have the ball because they wanted to see what they needed.”

Jets Bench Justin Fields: A Turning Point

56:00 to 57:08

Discussion on the Jets' decision to bench Justin Fields and its implications.

“but if they win one of their last two ballgames, they're going to win the NFC North and they'll be the number two seed.”

The Challenges of Being a Jets Quarterback

57:08 to 59:06

Exploration of the difficulties faced by quarterbacks in the Jets organization.

“It's in search of a quarterback number one.”

Tennessee Titans: Struggles with Complimentary Football

59:06 to 1:01:18

Insights from Jeffrey Simmons on the Titans' need for better team cohesion.

“because you have to be that much better at the quarterback position than everything around you.”

Bills Wide Receiver Situation: Keon Coleman's Struggles

1:01:18 to 1:06:15

Analysis of Keon Coleman's inactivity and the Bills' choices at receiver.

“We not playing good team football right now.”

The Importance of Proving Your Value as a Rookie

1:06:15 to 1:10:00

Discussion on the expectations for rookie players and their performance.

“Keon is expected to sit tomorrow against Texans, according to Eric Turner of Cover One.”

Evaluating NFL Receiver Performance

1:10:00 to 1:11:08

Learn the key traits that separate top NFL receivers from their peers.

“You better get some sacks, some interceptions.”

The Importance of Attitude in Sports

1:11:08 to 1:12:45

Discover how a player's attitude can impact their career longevity and opportunities.

“there's a number one receiver and there's a number two receiver.”

The Reality of NFL Career Longevity

1:12:45 to 1:15:19

Understand the statistics behind NFL career lengths and player turnover.

“Even when you don't think they watching you, boy, they watching you.”

Analyzing Recent NFL Games

1:15:19 to 1:18:02

Gain insights into key performances and strategies from recent NFL games.

“So how many guys, in order for that 20 and 18 and 15, Ocho, to drag it down to 2.3, that means a lot of guys playing one year or not even playing at all.”

Critique of Offensive Strategies

1:18:02 to 1:24:00

Explore the effectiveness of offensive strategies in the NFL and player roles.

“As you can see and you can hear, you know, you watch the game with the sound off.”

Eagles' Struggles and Team Dynamics

1:24:00 to 1:26:30

Discussion on the Eagles' recent performance and the challenges they face.

“like we got to throw the ball because we can't run ourselves back in the ball game.”

Defending the Super Bowl Title

1:26:30 to 1:28:30

Insights into the pressures of being defending champions and the competition from other teams.

“You see, when we play, we can beat anybody in this league.”

Excuses and Accountability in Football

1:28:30 to 1:29:30

Analyzing the excuses teams make for losses and the importance of accountability.

“or things are going to continue to splinter.”
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3:33Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, the trade heard around the world last night. The Dallas Cowboys did the unthinkable, trading the four-time Pro Bowler, defensive rookie of the year, two-time first-team All-Pro, Micah Parsons to the Green Bay Packers, in exchange for two first-round picks and defensive tackle Kenny Clark. The Packers handed Michael Parsons the largest contract for a non-quarterback in NFL history. He got four years,$188 million, $120 million fully guaranteed at signing. Yeah. And$136 million total guaranteed,$188 million total. Ochoa. Yeah. What are the Cowboys thinking of? Hold on. Take your time. You want me to start it off?

4:22Well, I can start it off because, listen, you will probably get a little bit more in depth than I will, but I would just do this. Chat, y 'all stay with me real quick. This is all ego. This is all ego and pride on Jerry's hands. When he did the deal and he got in front of the camera, he did some, as always, that he shouldn't have done. One of the first things he said is this was a good trade, and two, we need to be able to stop the run. Now, you're bringing in Kenny Clark, and again, once again, you put the pressure on Kenny Clark and your defense and the coaching staff to be able to stop the run because who you play week one, Uncle?

5:02Who they playing? We go to Philly. They going to Philly. And what does Philly do extremely well outside of throwing the ball? Run the football. Now you're going to put your team in a blender doing the same thing you were always doing, is doing all that talking before it's even time to play, and you ain't been in the NAND meeting room, you ain't been on NAND field, oh, letting one of the greatest young superstars of all time go, and you feel your team has gotten better. How does that make you?

5:34Shannon Sharpe:That's cliche talk, Ocho. Oh, we got better. Really? So if you felt that way, why were you trying to sign him? If you thought you could get better by trading Michael Parsons, why did you even offer him$200 million? Now, all this time, the last four years they were getting run on, I never heard Jerry say a word about running on. Now, I don't know about y 'all, but the thing is, you want guys to go hunt the quarterback because the Kansas City Chiefs stopped the run. What did the Eagles do? They got after Mahone boy. Yeah. Because that's the guy, that's the head of the snake, is your quarterback.

6:15Yeah.

6:16Shannon Sharpe:And Al Davis coined the phrase, the quarterback must go down, and he must go down hard. And it needs to happen early in the game. See, again, if you watch the documentary, America's Team, the gambler and I think the Dallas Cowboys, it was his ego. that's what caused him and Jerry to go so now he done well we had a handshake deal what first of all man you cannot if a player has representation the owner or the northern general manager can negotiate a deal with the player you must talk to his agent Jerry knows that. Michael probably thought, I'm shaking hands on you. Hey, man, Jerry, Jerry said, well, you shook my hand.

7:09Shannon Sharpe:We got a deal. It's been reported that Michael said, okay, Jerry, call my agent. Then, oh, we do the deal. I've done plenty of these deals. Well, you shouldn't have. The NFL should have punished you. The NFL PA, he told on himself, oh, I've done plenty of these. Well, we have to argue. You also have to understand the leverage that Jerry Jones has. If you got an owner like Jerry Jones that says some of the things that he says out loud that owners are not even supposed to say, maybe think, but you never actually regurgitate it in front of a camera, understand that the whole world is listening and watching.

7:46So, you know, he don't care about that. Then we talk about the same owner that you told me about sued the NFL. He had the nerve and the gall and the cojones to sue the NFL and say, I'm going to get every day. And if I'm not mistaken, basically what? He basically what? He changed it. So what is the NFL PA going to do? What are they going to do? There's nothing they can do because he doesn't care. He's in a position of power right now to be able to do what he wants because he just let the world know, I tried to handle contract negotiations without Micah Parsons' representation. All he's doing is telling you to his eye, I mean to everybody's face.

8:29He says he's done

8:29Shannon Sharpe:plenty of these. Yeah, two middle fingers out. Well, why did you do that with Dak? Why did you not circumvent Todd France? Hey, Dak don't play that. You know Dak. If you don't know Dak personally, you know Dak and Jerry don't see eye to eye. And he doesn't have that friendly banter relationship with Jerry Jones. Dak is one of the few players that actually kept it strictly business. Micah was like that too. Micah and Jerry didn't have. Micah did not have the same type of relationship that Jerry had with Michael Irvin, or he had with some of the other players that come along. Micah's like, I'm here to do business.

9:11Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to do my job to the best of my God-given ability. But, hey, it is a business, and I want to keep it moving. Now, me, and I'm just talking about me, guys. I think once Jerry started saying all this stuff, we pay him. Who would you say that we're going to have him? Remember, he missed all these games. He's still calling the man Micah Parsons and not Micah. Even Stephen had to say Micah that, you know, basically Micah. So it's – You're doing it on purpose, huh? I don't know if it was on purpose or not, but I'm just saying, Ocho. I think as Micah started to listen to what this man was saying, like this man don't respect me.

9:52Shannon Sharpe:This man don't respect nothing about me. Jerry, thank you. I mean, you own the team, but you don't own me. And that's how Jerry's thinking. Jerry's thinking if I pay you, I should tell you to come in. In the old days, they had the mute. They say G and hard. You say get up, you'll stop. That's how Jerry's mentality is. I'm not saying that he don't feel the same way about the other players, but I'm just saying his mentality is if I pay you, you do what I tell you to do. Nah, bro. It ain't like that. and as and it is reported i don't know jane slater said that michael says okay let's get a deal jerry said nah you're gonna play on the fifth of your option or you can leave we'll make it happen to you all right because i'm not playing i'm not playing for 21 or 24 i'm not so whatever you got to do do what you got to do so so what about so i'm just trying to all these years because the Cowboys weakness over the last since Micah's been there or before he got there was the inability to stop the run I remember Cleveland Browns ran for 300 yards Arizona Cardinals ran for 300 the Baltimore Ravens ran for 300 pick a team that didn't run Jerry ain't mentioned nothing so if you just got better because I remember when Jerry was there and Chad y 'all correct me if I'm wrong all the time that he was telling you these teams remind him of those Super Bowl winning teams He just traded a player that was on the team that he said had as much talent, if not more, than no Super Bowl winning team.

11:30Shannon Sharpe:He just traded him and said he got better.

11:36Listen, Kenny Clark is good. Kenny Clark is good. He is. He ain't no guy. He ain't no slouch. He's 30. But we talk about Micah Parsons. We talk about Micah Parsons. We talk about a generational talent.

11:50Shannon Sharpe:I'm looking for a Micah Parsons, a TJ Watt, a Miles Garrett. I'm trying to – those are transformational players. Those are the guys that you're trying to get. I tell you what, tell me the run stopper that's in the Hall of Fame that got a gold jacket. We were just talking about Leonard Williams. He was talking about how Aaron Donald changed it, where they want guys to get – the D tackler to go get double-digit sacks. That's different. because they throw the ball so much emphasis on the passing game. I need a guy that can attack the quarterback. That's what Micah Parsons does. First of all, Jerry, you're going to have to – because here's the thing, Ojo.

12:34Shannon Sharpe:The way they're constructed this team, the Dallas Cowboys, the offense is supposed to get the lead. The team is supposed to be ahead. The other team can't run the football. They throw. Micah Parsons go hunt the quarterback. what happens when Dak turns it over or they don't have this big lead so now because you constructed a team that you lighten the britches you can't hold up when they boom and they come and boom and they come and boom like Marshawn said over and over and over and over you hit him in the face that's what Jerry don't understand so unless you're going to redesign your team let me know how that work out for you but again I would say that the trade the trade is it's not even swapping in any way based on skill and talent at the positions Kenny Clark is very good Kenny Clark is very good he had a down year but he said he had a foot injury last year but Micah Parsons is a generational talent I don't care what people say they try to hate I don't care what it may be.

13:45I mean, if your eyes, if you know the game of football, if you watch football, you know, even for me as being a receiver, I understand what he brings to the table regardless of what team he goes to. He's a difference maker completely. He wrecks havoc. Oh, yeah. And I can't believe Jerry did that. I can't believe Jerry said some of the things he said for it to even get to this point. I did. And the more he talked. If you paid him last year ahead of time and tried to copycat what some of the other owners are doing around the NFL to continue to build winning teams, then you wouldn't have this issue.

14:21You wouldn't run into this problem.

14:23Shannon Sharpe:But your ego continues to get in your way, and it's been getting in your way the past 30 years. Every time he talks, Ochoa, toe pops out. Because he got his whole foot in his mouth. So every time he talks, I see another toe. I say, mm-hmm, there it is. But I will say this. Look. look when you when you get drafted somewhere there's something there's a there's like a sense of loyalty that you know i want you know what i want to be a one jersey guy i want to be one helmet i want to stay here for the rest of my career and i do believe micah would have preferred to stay there me okay the packers gave him 47 million oh cho but to stay in dallas i took 44 and let me tell you why because what can i do with 44 that i got to have 47 because see and plus Now, it's being reported that the podcast caused some problems.

15:07Shannon Sharpe:See, the podcast is only valuable when he's a Cowboy.

15:12Shannon Sharpe:They want to hear about the Cowboys. They want to hear about the boys. They want to hear about Jerry. They want to hear about Dak. I'm sorry. And this is not a shot at no other team. But there's a reason why. Yeah, it's different. It absolutely is. One thousand percent. Anything attached to that star. especially if you're playing there you want to take advantage of that window when you are there because it comes with so much bro it comes with so much Troy media Romo media Dandy Don Merida media media Michael Irvin media what other franchise can boast that now the guys that call the color guys do you know the color guys Troy two of the prominent spots occupied by Cowboys quarterback now I know a lot of y 'all don't remember when Dandy Don Meredith was on ABC with Howard Cosell yeah he was a cowboy Michael Irvin was a cowboy Moose Johnson cowboy Moose Moose Swagoo cowboy boy yeah that's not an accident that's not an accident and plus if you and look michael ervin ain't caught a football michael ervin make millions emmy make millions and ain't none of them caught a football or ran a football in two decades michael retired before me and emmy Jimmy just retired?

16:57Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. So think about that, Ocho. That's not an accident. So the money that you were going to be able to make, now look, it's all mute now. It's a mute point. Mute means you can't hear a mute. Absolutely. Anyway, with that being said, it doesn't matter now. But I'm just saying, if the opportunity would have presented itself, say, okay, we're not going to give you 47, because this really reset the market. 44 would have reset the market. That's$3 million more than what TJ Watt got. So that's an extra$12 million. They went six. They went 24. So I don't have a problem. It hurt him, Ocho, because any time a team trades you, they say, hey, we good without you.

17:47Shannon Sharpe:Or the thought of it.

17:53Yeah. Yeah. And I don't like it. I don't like it. This is what I hate. I hate when players get traded, players that we know are really good, players that play for our team, and you know how good a player is. And when they get traded, then – The fans start talking about, oh, he wasn't that good. Yeah, oh, he wasn't that good anyway.

18:11Shannon Sharpe:Like, come on. You never said that when he was there. You're only saying that now. Again, that's your team. That's their team, Mocho. And look, it's team because guess what? Somebody else is going to wear that number 11 one day. All they see is the star on that helmet. Players come and go. They're interchangeable. They've had great players with the Cowboys all the way back when they came into existence in 1960 when they drafted Bob Lilly and they got Randy White and they got all these guys. They got a lot of Hall of Famers. Yeah. And so that's what they see. They see the name. Okay. Yeah, we love Emmitt.

18:48Shannon Sharpe:We love Troy. We love those guys. But guess what? We got new Cowboys now. We love them too. well hell you just let a future Hall of Fame go and I know Michael wanted one of those blue coats that the ring of fame when you saw Jimmy and you saw Emmitt and all those guys wearing those blue coats we have orange ones you know somebody else I think the Dolphins got that teal color if I'm not mistaken the Patriots got the red got red coats that's not going to happen now because you know think about how long it took him to put Jimmy in Yeah. Micah ain't, I mean, and it probably, look, he got enough money.

19:25And the difference was, Ocho, is that Micah's 26.

19:30Shannon Sharpe:In three years, he can come back to the table and get another big deal. Jaren wanted to do five years plus the fifth year option, which is six. He said, nah. Nah, he said, we do four. Make sure he won't be able to come back and double dip. Yep. But, Ocho, we had this conversation. Chat. Now, it was Green Bay. Man, people, they need to stop making up stuff. Ocho and I, we tried to tell y 'all, when this stuff keeps leaking out, it's coming from somewhere. I know y 'all don't want to believe that your favorite player, or they could potentially trade your favorite player, or release your favorite player.

20:13Shannon Sharpe:I know you don't want to believe that. but where you think this stuff comes from so of all the things someone could have said Michael Parsons to the Packers was what they went with of all the things they could have said of all the teams, 32 teams 53 players per team plus somewhere between 13 and 16 practice squad guys of every storyline they could have said this is what they went with hey where there's smoke there's fire where there's smoke there's fire you know and the first thing people want to say, well, who's your source? Don't worry about your source. Whatever you're hearing from somewhere, they know how to get it out there.

20:52I don't know how to get it out there, but they get it out there.

20:55Shannon Sharpe:This is how they get it out there. Hey, man, I'm going to tell you something. Hey, you ain't hear it from me. Hey, put your spin on it. Okay? I'm just telling you how it is. Oh, man. I'm not an insider. I love them, Dave. I'm not. and I don't really try to break no news. I could. I could, but that ain't what I was... When I was on CBS, that's not what they paid me for. They had Charlie Cassidy for that. When I was on Fox, that's what they had Jay Glazer for. I'm with ESPN, that's what they got Adam Schefter for. I ain't breaking nothing. I'm going to keep my relationship because I have to be very, very careful because people got all over me when I said what I was saying about when Russ...

21:37Shannon Sharpe:Man, well, how you... I don't know. He ain't in the locker room. Right, right. right okay but i'm just saying so i just say at that point in time i said you know what shanna it ain't worth it it ain't it ain't it ain't worth it to you i don't know i'm just gonna speak what this is what you know for me if i was in the locker room x y and z knowing

22:04Shannon Sharpe:knowing

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22:08Shannon Sharpe:but but oh you could tell the more and more jerry talk the more oh he made it work the more the more he was like dug in the more he made it work hey you know what he called steven a he wanted to get he wanted to get his point out there with steven a steven a sitting down with jerry jerry's like this first time we got him under contract for three more years nobody was him you and i had that discussion. I said, Ocho, he got the fifth-year option, and he got two franchise tags. So theoretically, he could be a jerk about it and say, okay, play on the fifth-year option, franchise, franchise. Okay, go ahead and go.

22:46Shannon Sharpe:But I ain't got seven years of service at you. Well, listen, and Michael, we're going to be a jerk, too. You notice they say he was cleared for his back pain, right? So you know what he did? Oh, y 'all want to play games? So we're going to play the game. I'm going to go get a second opinion. and I'm going to make sure the second opinion I get make sure let y 'all know that I can't play right he was finna play the game oh yeah so Jerry understood okay you know what he ain't playing he not finna fold he really finna play this game so it's been third opinion might as well get yeah that second that second opinion sounded too much like the first opinion so let me go get a third opinion I need a descending I need a descending vote you know three you know um look the Cowboys say they're a better team.

23:34Shannon Sharpe:I don't know how you trade your best defensive player. I believe he was their best player on either side of the ball. I don't know how you trade him and get better. We'll see what they do with the draft compensation. You know, you could look at Houston and say when they traded Deshaun, they got better. They got C.J. Stroud. They got Nico Collins. They got Anderson. So, you know what I'm saying, Ocho? You could say, oh, they got better. They got some all pros over there. They got a franchise quarterback. You got a hell of a defensive lineman. You got a really young, great receiver. We did all right, Ocho.

24:13Shannon Sharpe:We did all right. Yeah, now that's getting better. That's getting better. But I want to see what they do with the draft picks. But I don't know. If you can't attack a team's quarterback, that's how they're built. You were built. They got undersized offensive linemen except Mozzie Smith. but that's his job. So in other words, you put all the well, we didn't stop the run. Look at Mike. Bro, so you sing it so now because you guys got ran on you put all that on Micah. Yeah. Wait a minute. He said the problem is fixed now though. He said the problem is fixed. We got better. We got Kenny Clark. Therefore I feel we can stop the run now.

24:57So now you put the pressure on them boys, and them boys ain't even play yet. And they got to play the Eagles week one. So when things don't turn out how you said they are, as far as you guys getting better at the stop of the run, and you got Saquon Barkley running for 250 yards on you, now you got another problem.

25:16Shannon Sharpe:Where Jayla Hurts ordered Uber Eats back there talking about what they got. I like the Mugu Gopan. I like the General Joe's chicken. I like the... Hey, y 'all got egg rolls? You be back there smoking a cigar, chilling? Because Lane Johnson and my lotter ain't to be played with. Ain't nothing bad. Nothing bad. How about how we gotten better not realizing who you play week one? Do you remember the defense? Do you understand the offensive line you're getting ready to play week one? Are you sure? Are you sure you've gotten better? Hey, and you got the commanders.

25:56Shannon Sharpe:so we're gonna find out you know look a lot of times don't you know we all have it we all have it we make up our minds or something I don't care it might be the best thing for us but sometimes we'll cut our nose off to spite our face I'm gonna show you I'm gonna show you you think I can't you think I can't live without you you think I can't be without you I'm gonna show you

26:23Shannon Sharpe:sometimes we can't get out of our own way Ocho yeah and then when you realize the gravity of the mistake that you've made it's too late we've all been there we've all been there we've all they have plenty of fish in the sea but as my grandmother told my aunt you might not catch them

26:49Shannon Sharpe:and Jerry Jerry Jones had plenty to say about the biggest reason for not signing Michael Parsons because the Cowboys needed to stop the run he also said we can win more without Micah than when had we signed him so if that's the case why were you trying to sign him why was it such a big deal this handshake deal why were you trying to get him to sign this contract see Ocho if he had never offered Micah a contract I could agree with everything that he said Yes.

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31:07Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, Jamar Chase, we had this conversation last night. Jamar Chase was suspended one game. The one-game suspension will cost him over half a million dollars, $448 ,333 in a game check, and$58 ,824 in an active roster bonus. Chase plans to appeal and argue this one-game suspension, claiming that if it was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spit in his face and not on the man's jersey, the ground. Ocho. Ocho, that's not, come on, Ram. I mean, come on, Chase. He didn't even talk to the media. Although that's what Ian Rappaport said is that he said if he was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spit in his face and not on the jersey, the ground.

31:53Yeah, I don't think he said that. Because he declined to talk to media. He declined to talk to everybody today. Obviously, you know, once you get out of watching film on Mondays, he declined to talk to everybody.

32:04Shannon Sharpe:What?

32:08Shannon Sharpe:I guess his team put that out. But anyway, I don't know how, I don't know. But first of all, you said you didn't spit. So whether you were spitting on the ground or you would have did X, Y, and Z, you said you didn't spit. That's what you said. You said that after the game. Yeah. Now, all that, Ocho, you know they shoot everything. Man, you know they shoot everything in 4K? Mm-hmm. And you could actually see it? Yeah. Yeah! Mm-hmm. You could see pimples on an ant booty from the moon. That's how good the cameras are, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Chase, appeal it. But I mean, I just think you should call Ram and say, bro, I'm sorry.

32:51Shannon Sharpe:My emotions got the best of me. and leave and because this one incident, this is not you. I don't believe this is you. I'm surprised that we're actually having, Ocho and I are having this conversation and you're the topic of the conversation because you're ensnared in this. I wouldn't have believed it. If you, you would have been the very last person. They said a receiver. I probably, there are some other names I might've would have went to, but I wouldn't have been. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have put that on you. So I hope, I hope that's what, Ian Rappaport said, his team said, or he said, I don't believe it.

33:27Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to say, let's just say, but for the sake of, but you did spit on him. Whether you would have, what you would have done, you spit on the man. And it's going to cost you, but you'll learn from it. I don't believe this is the type of person that you are. We've all done things that we're not, it's not our finest moment. Yeah. And I don't think this moment should define Jamar Chase. There are going to be a lot of other moments that we can look back and define Jamar Chase with. This is not going to be your defining moment. But the best apology, Ocho, is change behavior. Don't let something like this happen again, and we're going to be good, bro.

34:10The funny thing about it, when we talk about change behavior, the players, I'm not just speaking on Jamar Chase in general. to change behavior most of the time, he's going to make you forget about it on the field.

34:22Shannon Sharpe:Yes. He's going to make you forget about it on the field. And we never have problems out of Chase off the field anyway. No, you don't. We never have problems. So when you think of a hypothetical, if this scenario or this situation never happened and you just thought of some players that it would come from, it wouldn't come from him because he's one who causes no problems. The problem he causes is on the field. Correct. Fuck as hell. That's it. That's why I struggle. that's why you struggle because you know him better than I do and there was never any indication he's so laid back if you watch him when he does an interview he's sitting back, he chill he's sitting back like this here all the time, yeah and the little bit that I've been around him I've been around him a couple times doing an autograph signing I saw him at the Super Bowl he's a chill guy he's not one of these high strong guys that's liable to go off he's really mild mannered Yeah.

35:17Shannon Sharpe:So that's why it's so surprising. But, you know, look, like I said, you know, this season was supposed to be different. They missed the playoff last year. He had the triple crown. He's the first triple crown, said my brother, to win that and not make the playoffs. My brother won the triple crown in 92. They didn't make the playoffs. Yeah. He won the triple crown in 24. They didn't. So almost 30, almost over 30 years. So it doesn't happen often because there's not a whole lot of people that win the triple crown. It's hard. So you've got to have the most catches, yards, and touchdowns versus everybody, not just the NFC, but the AFC as well.

36:00Shannon Sharpe:Sometimes you can have yards. Sometimes you can have catches. And then somebody nips you with touchdowns. He had both. It's kind of like winning the triple crown in baseball. Yeah. Yeah, you could have a.380 batting average, but you got 40 home runs and somebody got 50 or somebody drives in 135. That's why it doesn't happen that often. Mickey Cabrera was the last one. Then you got to go all the way back to Yaz. Call you Skrimsky. Okay, okay. Yeah. And they say who? Okay. Yeah. So, or the same thing in horse racing. You know, hey, you might win that first two, but that mile and a half at the Belmonts.

36:42Shannon Sharpe:Woo! That's it. That's hell, boy. Yeah. If you notice now, a lot of horses just like, hey, forget it. They just, they like, I don't even worry about it. Hey, we win the Kentucky Derby. We'll skip the Preakness. We'll see you at the Belmont. Right. I mean, it was such a long time. And then, I mean, because everybody thought it was easy. You get secretary in 73, and then you get Seattle Salud and Affirm, back-to-back years, 77, 78. And then it's like, well, man, it's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard. And then you get American Pharaoh do it. and then you come back with a justified Bob Baffert two horses.

37:16Yeah.

37:16Shannon Sharpe:It's hard. It's hard. You probably had more triple crown winners in baseball than you had in horse racing. Hmm. But – And it's difficult. Oh, yeah, for sure. You been to the Kentucky Derby before? I've been, Ocho. We got A. Ocho, it's all about the hat. Yes. For a man and a woman, it's all about – I've seen women come with some hat and be barefooted. Be barefooted. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking, cause it normally, I don't know, for some reason it normally rains. Yeah. But these, Elcho, these ladies have these hats. I mean, one lady had a hat. I mean, this hat was way out here like this here. And you know your boy would have that hat and hey.

38:05Shannon Sharpe:Oh yeah, you was at that shop? Huh? You was shop? If a fly would have landed on my Ocho, I'd have cut his throat. You see, you messing me up. You messing up the ensemble. Yeah, I'm a clean, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. I done been there a few times. Obviously, when I was in Cincinnati, it was right down the street. As a matter of fact, hell, I flew into Cincinnati and drove over. Drove down, yeah. Yeah. Right down the street, man. It's a great event. I only did it one time. You know, I'm not in that kind of. That's where I met Bob Baffert, him and his son. At the time, I met, rest his soul, I think, D. Wayne Lucas.

38:49Shannon Sharpe:I met a couple of them. Yeah, it's great. It's an awesome sport. It's unbelievable, Ocho. Because it was on my bucket list. I've been to a World Series. Obviously, I've been to a Super Bowl, the Kentucky Derby. I want to do Daytona 500. I went to Wimbledon. Huh? Listen, do me a favor. Give yourself some justice so you can understand the experience. When you go to the Daytona 500, do not let them put you in a suite. You need to sit in the stand so you can get the full. You feel them go around that track? Yes. Yes. You've got to be able to experience it. You've got to feel those cars coming around.

39:27You know, the energy, the aura, the stands. You've got to feel, oh, man, it's un -

39:31Shannon Sharpe:It's crazy, man. It's crazy. I mean, it's something about when you feel 800 horsepower and there's 42 of those cars, and they're going 180, 190 miles an hour, and they're this close. Close. They're this close. Yeah. And those cars are damn near upside down. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Unbelievable. Hey, boy, hey. Hey, would they be, hey, they bump draft? Mm-hmm. Hey. That's a rest of your soul to Terminator. Dale Earnhardt. Boom, boom. Sling shot down in the back. Oh, man. I got to see that one. I got to see that. I want to see Wilma because I went to see – I saw the U.S. Open. I saw Serena.

40:14Shannon Sharpe:She just got married to – a couple of years ago to David Lee. The Dane, the tennis player. She married David Lee, the basketball player. I saw her and Serena play a semifinal at the U.S. Open on a Saturday night. What's her name? Wozniacki. Yep. She married David Lee. I think they got a couple of kids. because I saw them in, I just saw them in Vegas, maybe for the Super Bowl.

40:42Shannon Sharpe:David Lee, Michael Phelps and his wife, and it was David Lee and Wozniacki. But man, I got it, I got it. Yeah, you look at your boy. Hey, boy, you clean, eh? Yeah, you clean, boy. You clean, sucker. I see you, okay, you clean. You clean. Look, I feel something I pulled out. was in a hurry was in a hurry all right yeah yeah yeah hold on hey hold on it's april oh so we might have to jump down there club sheesh i mean uh night camp might have to go on the road at the derby hey hey you listen i get my hat ready right now don't don't don't fail me hey because you know when it when it come to put them put them things on you know i put that i put that i put that you know what on now i'm ready yeah we might we might have to go and do a little something on joe we're gonna do something to something hey speaking speaking of horses in kentucky derby my daughter my daughter cha-cha she plays tennis she's phenomenal she's yeah phenomenal and she loves horses that's what I love she said um I'm gonna blame my mama I'm gonna blame my mama we went riding horses this past weekend a weekend before last um she asked me all about types of horses and telling me about saddles and I'm like man where in the world you learn all this stuff fat that's about she's really into it so i'm like okay okay cool okay be in your pockets too hey listen so as soon as we finish riding you know the first thing christmas coming up so the first thing i do i'm talking to the lady we on the trail we riding ask the trainer i say um you know what horses run how much they cost okay a thousand fifteen hundred for something simple okay please you know i ain't get i ain't getting that too expensive now you know she she she young now So I'm like, okay, what about boarding?

42:26What about feeding? Do they have places? Do they have places out here? Yeah, that's where you spend the money. You know, they have boarding. It's like, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. There's boarding. So I ask her, I say, well, listen, I'm going to leave my information and, you know, send it to me. And the numbers and what it costs weekly, monthly, and for the year. And I'm thinking about, you know, getting my daughter. I'm thinking about getting a Passofino. I don't want nothing too big. I want some a little small where the ride is smooth and a Passofino would be perfect for her yeah I'm just curious I'm kind of excited I'm kind of excited for her because she loved him so much and I think that would be one of the best breast surprises for one of one of my 85 on Christmas

43:11Shannon Sharpe:morning the thing is Ocho is that yeah you get a horse for a decent price you probably spend 1500 maybe five thousand dollars on a horse what you got to put into it completely different but to Aborted and defeated? Yes. Yeah. But see, and too, also, you got to understand, where I live in Miami, out that way, you know, because I'm further up north and west a little bit, ain't nothing out there but horses and stables. That's it. And when you think Miami, you think South Beach, you know, all the nice stuff. But I'm out there in a, I don't even know what you want to call it. You know, you go to Walmart, you go to Target, and when you're driving, it's people riding horses up and down the street, like we in goddamn Texas.

43:51I'm serious. That's how far out I am from everybody.

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47:43Shannon Sharpe:Caleb Williams hit DJ Moore and walked it off. They won the toss. They elected the Green Bay to have the ball because they wanted to see what they needed. Green Bay was driving down the field, fumbled a snap, and the rest is, as they say, history. They had a, got a, there was third and 20, and the guy grabbed Caleb Williams' face mask. Face mask. Gave him life when he really didn't have to do that, but hey, you're grabbing, so. Yeah. Unfortunately, those things happened, but Caleb Williams, 19 of 34, 250, 52 touchdowns. He wasn't sacked and he didn't turn the football over. The Andre Swift ran the ball 13 times for 58 yards.

48:21Shannon Sharpe:Kali. Uh, man got a mana. Man guy. Man, a guy. Man a guy. Man a guy. Man a guy had nine for 50. Caleb Williams ran the ball three times for 30 yards. They had 26 rush 150 yards with DJ more five for 97 on a big touchdown. Uh, they win this ball game. They look like they're going to win this division. Who would have thought based on what they had last year, Ocho? But we thought with Ben Johnson coming in, you picked them to be one of your surprise teams, them and the Carolina Panthers to be one of your surprise teams. And I think they surprised a lot. I think they're a lot better than people. They thought they would improve, but I don't think anybody thought given that division with Green Bay and Detroit still in that division, Ocho, I don't think anybody had Chicago pick to win that division.

49:07Shannon Sharpe:Just going to show you what the coaching staff, They brought in some addition. They revamped the offensive line. New center and Dalvin, new left guard and Thune, new right tackle. So they revamped the offensive line. And they got Lovelace, Loveland, excuse me. Loveland is the tight end, the first round draft pick. And he's been phenomenal. So give the Chicago Bears credit, Ocho. Jordan Love leads the game, but Malik Willis did not disappoint. He played extremely well. He played very well. 11, 121 yards, threw a touchdown pass to a Romeo Dobbs, but it was not enough because this was all about the Chicago Bears.

49:42Shannon Sharpe:When they needed to get a stop, they got a stop. They bent, but they didn't break. They made them settle for a field goal. Because if they can't score a touchdown, the game's over. Yes. But they made them kick a field goal. They go down the field, get in field goal range, kick the field goal, go for the onside. Romeo Dobbs misplayed it. and given his concussion history, Ocho, I'm not so sure you want him there with those kind of collisions. Right. Because they're coming and they're coming with bad intentions. Oh, yeah. Remember now, Ocho, ain't no helping the helmet on the old side now. No. That's a car.

50:16Shannon Sharpe:That is a for real car crash. Yeah, but also you want your players with your best hands and the ones that you trust the most in those important situations like that, you want them on your hands team. Yeah. Also, So, Josh Jacobs going in for a touchdown. He formed the football. That has been his history. He's had a history. He's had a propensity to put the ball on the ground. No joke. As we start getting closer and closer, we start in December, and we move to more January, you've got to hold on to the football. You cannot turn it over. The ball is a premium, and it cost him. And guess what? We didn't see him anymore.

50:55Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. We didn't see him anymore. Listen, Emmanuel Wilson took over from there. Yeah. Josh Jacobs, you got to do a better job of holding on to the football. They know. They know you'll give it up at some point in time, and they're going to keep hammering at it. You're good back, but you got to hold on to the football. Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from Chicago? Because Green Bay really controlled this game. Yeah, listen. Until they didn't. Yeah, they controlled the game. Really, they controlled the game in its entirety throughout the game. I really, honestly, I'm going to tell you, I thought the Bears were going to lose.

51:24and going into the fourth quarter five minutes left into the fourth quarter the game is 16 to 6 yep I'm like hell that's a two score game with only five minutes left on the clock so many different things have to go right for the Bears to even have a chance to come back and those goddamn things that needed to go right huh they went right those things absolutely went right the center exchange the mess up between Malik Willis and the center you can't have that with the starting center and the backup quarterback. How many snaps do they get? Think about it.

51:56Shannon Sharpe:Well, you got to realize Malik Willis has been in the game. So they had taken a lot of bad because think about when Jordan Love went out, right? Malik Willis comes in. Yeah, he come. Yeah, because I didn't see I didn't me and I want you to go. I didn't see Jordan Love until they replayed it where he got helmet to helmet. Yeah, I didn't see it in real time. Okay, I wonder why I said why did why they bring Malik Willis right? Right. And then I and then when they went back they showed it I was like okay that's why they brought Malik Willis in but go ahead Ocho finish your point but but but also I think that might have been a problem like you know you can't you can't blame the weather you can't blame the weather I would I would just say the fact that even though even though he wasn't there for a few snaps once Jordan Love went out I mean that center and quarterback exchange and the fact that they haven't had any type of continuity together that might have played a part in it maybe Malik Willis didn't close his hands fast enough.

52:43I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Conjuring Lover took a thousand goddamn snaps and it had them in one center exchange where there's been an issue and all of a sudden there's one tonight. And obviously, certain things they have to go right and that was one of them. They had to go right in the Bears' favor for them to even have an opportunity and a chance to win this game. Including the goddamn onside kick.

53:05Shannon Sharpe:When you fall behind, Ocho, you have to, as the behind team, you have to do everything right. Because if they messing up, Ocho, how many times have we said, oh, the game was right there for the taking. Such and such did this, such and such did that. But you didn't take advantage of the opportunity. So if you're the behind team, from the time you're behind, you have to do everything right. Now, as the team that's in the lead, you need, because all they need is the momentum because they realize you're on the road. So what happens, Ocho? Now all of a sudden the crowd gets back in the game. You had the crowd at bay for the entirety of the game.

53:41Shannon Sharpe:Quiet. Now all of a sudden you got 70 ,000 fans. They're into it. And then they stop you on third. I don't like the call. I didn't like the call on third down. I think you give the ball to Emmanuel Wilson and you go ahead and get the first down. Look, I just hate that offset. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. But with that being said, Ocho, I think Emmanuel Wilson, you give him the ball both times and you say offensive line, we need one yard. Yeah. We need one yard. Now we get a new set of downs. It didn't happen. I think the Bears deserve a lot of credit. Yes. But Malik Willis showed me something.

54:23Shannon Sharpe:Because when I'm looking at him in Tennessee, we didn't see this Malik Willis. So it might be something in Tennessee. Mike Brable was his coach. They didn't want him. He looks like a very, very competent quarterback. He looks like he can be a starter. I can look around the league, and he's better than some people's starters. Now, it might be the system. It might be Green Bay and what they have to offer. But Ocho, he looks very competent right now. And you heard what you just said. It might be the system or it might be what Green Bay has to offer. You got to look what he has around him. Look at what he has surrounding him.

54:55Look at the personnel. Look at the offensive line. Look at the running back. Look at the receiving core. So you're going to look like a competent quarterback when you're playing for a team from top to bottom that understands how to build a team where you can compete week in and week out? Of course. I mean, when's the last Tennessee? When is the last time Tennessee has a team that's been structurally built from the top to bottom to be able to compete week to week? There's a reason they was picking number one in the draft last year. There's a reason why. So they're not going to look the same. And unless you're Superman, you can't go to a team that's not structurally built the right way.

55:29You got to be Superman to make them look good, if that makes sense.

55:34Shannon Sharpe:Bears take control of the NFC North, Ocho. They're 11-4. They're a game behind the Seattle Seahawks. They're the 12-3. But there are two games in front of the Green Bay Packers now. Well, they're a game and a half because Green Bay has a tie. Right. Yeah. Well, theoretically, that's two games because, you know, they only have four in the loss column, and you got five in the loss column and one in the tie column. So there are two games ahead of Green Bay, and there are three games in the win column ahead of Detroit. We'll see what Detroit does tomorrow. but if they win one of their last two ballgames, they're going to win the NFC North and they'll be the number two seed.

56:15Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah.

56:21Shannon Sharpe:The New York Jets, Ochoa, are benching Justin Fields for backup Tyrod Taylor. The move comes following the 27-14 loss to Patriots last Thursday night. the game in which Fields threw for 116 yards on 15 of 26 passing. Fields signed a two-year,$40 million deal with the Jets last spring. The contract guarantees him$20 million in 25 and another$10 million in 26. Ocho, does this mention suggest that the Justin Fields experiment is officially over? Yes, it does. And I hate that for Young Bull. I'm just going to be honest. I hate that for him. and not only is the experiment over, it puts the Jets back in the same position that they've been in for a very long time since Joe Namath.

57:09It's in search of a quarterback number one. They're back in search of quarterback number one. I really was pulling for Justin Fields and hoping this would be his season, to have his own team, things didn't go well with the Bears. He went to Pittsburgh. We saw flashes. We saw flashes of brilliance leading that Pittsburgh Steelers team offensively to a 4-2 record before he was benched for Russell Wilson that Mike Tomlin had said would be the starter once he gets back healthy. Now, Justin Fields, this is your team. You quarterback number one. You have nothing to worry about. You don't have to look over your shoulder.

57:46You can play freely. You know, just minimize your mistakes. protect the ball, and try to run that offense as efficient as you possibly can. And to this point, we're in week 10 damn near, if I'm not mistaken. Week 10, yeah? Yeah, we're about to head into week 12. Oh, shit. Why are we in week 12? No, week 13.

58:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, this is week 12, yeah. Yeah, I mean. About to head into week 12. Yeah, week 12. Yeah, at this point, based on the numbers, what you've seen, we've talked about it all the time, you know having games where you got 20 30 yards at the half yeah man 45 yards passing an nfl quarterback yeah you know okay okay once i get that but ocho multiple five back to back back to back man no and and um and sometimes when i think about it on it's like sometimes i think they sabotaging him you know but i know that's not the case i know that's not the case because they they They can only sabotage you so much.

58:50You know, I hurt for Young Bull because he really won the opportunity to be quarterback number one, and it just hasn't panned out or worked out. No.

59:04Shannon Sharpe:It hasn't even been close. The Jets is probably one of the worst situations to go to because you have to be that much better at the quarterback position than everything around you. you got to be able to elevate everybody else around you and he's not that kind of quarterback. Man. Aaron Rodgers and Devontae Adams couldn't help him. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. So you put that green and white on, you already know. Damn. Well, listen, Tyrod, you know, proven veteran. Tyrod gonna get in there and one thing about him you know he gonna move that ball Tyrod will let it go he gonna move that ball too he gonna move that ball I wonder who the Jets got this week who the Jets play

1:00:06Shannon Sharpe:the Ravens oh hell no shit hey in Baltimore board. Tyron, hey, that's where Tyron started. Remember, Tyron was the backup to Joe Flacco. Yeah, the Joe. Yeah, yeah. I remember. Yeah, sure was. And he started in Buffalo. He took Buffalo to the playoffs. People forget that. That's right. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yes.

1:00:32Shannon Sharpe:Jeffrey Simmons said he's tired of sugar coating things and is sick of the Titans not playing complimentary football. Let's take a listen to what Jeffrey Simons had to say. We need to be better. I mean, we can't keep saying the same thing, trying to sugarcoat it. But immediately, for not anybody. And I said in the locker room, I said it on the field, I'm tired of sugarcoating. And we need to be better. And then another day, we need to protect Cam better. Simple. How do you got feelings of defense when, knowing if you give up two touchdowns or whatever, that's going to be hard to win? Man, at the end of the day, it's about complementing football.

1:01:07Shannon Sharpe:We have to play better team football. We, sometimes the offense can be playing good. Sometimes the defense, how can we play good as a team, free-faced? We not playing good team football right now. And it's showing. And Mike said it in practice Friday. We had freaking four false starts Friday. We playing at home. We shouldn't have that many false starts. Don't care. I'm tired of trading feelings. I'm tired of losing. That's what I'm tired of doing. Ooh, man, he frustrated, boy. Yeah, yeah, he talked about the office line. He's how we have that many false starts and we play it at home and home Yeah, you shouldn't you shouldn't have any because the noise is on your side or the lack of noise is on your side Especially when the office is out there on the field.

1:01:50It shouldn't be shouldn't be any issues I understand what he's what he's saying in the key the key word that he kept saying over and over is complimentary, you know Offense play well defense play well. There has to be some type of balance on both sides Now, you're not going to execute on every single drive. Not every single drive, but meet me halfway. Meet me halfway. Keep us off the field for a little bit. Don't go three and out 30 goddamn three times. I'm just throwing that number out there. But in general, defense is tired. Give us a chance to rest. Let's put together some drives, some consecutive drives together.

1:02:27You know? Give us a chance. They're not even – with the way they're playing, they're not even giving themselves a chance.

1:02:34Shannon Sharpe:win games now the little position to get the number one pick again next this year i mean in 26 ocho yeah am a dog and i'm a dog to get the back-to-back number one picks hey that's tough well you know how bad you already had you in the old bengal's territory you are in old uh uh uh colts territory yeah but oh cause you know y 'all did that right ocho who the bingles oh yeah yeah a bingles bad john o 'carta big daddy dan wilkinson hey the bingles was bad though i'm talking about back then you do realize i was in the league where y 'all were terrible yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah y 'all come a long way ocho yeah we have yeah the coast was terrible too don't they the patriots were terrible too terrible yeah a lot of terrible they were bad they were bad Hey, but Tennessee got a long way to go, huh?

1:03:29You know how bad you have to be. Hey, you heard me? You know how bad you have to be?

1:03:36Shannon Sharpe:Or say the team. Hold on.

1:03:43Ooh-wee.

1:03:46Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I'm trying to think who the last team to have back-to-back number one overall picks. So like we said, like the Bengals did with Kajana. I think it was Kajana Carter and Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson. Woo.

1:04:06Shannon Sharpe:Damn! What happened? The same team has done it twice. Who was that?

1:04:19They would've done it twice.

1:04:22Shannon Sharpe:Back-to-back, number one, overall. Oh, just the Bengals?

1:04:30Shannon Sharpe:Oh, you give me the years, I'm probably going to get it. Oh, yeah, with Tim Couch and the guy from Penn State. Oh, Cleveland. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Baker Mayfield and Miles Garrett. Oh. What was the defensive lineman? Courtney Brown. I know. I remember. If I'm not mistaken, I think Courtney went one and what you call him went two. Didn't he? Yeah.

1:05:04Shannon Sharpe:Didn't LeBar go two to Washington after Courtney? Because they were on the same team, I think. Just like the Colts had the first two picks and they took Steve Entman and they took the guy from Texas A &M. Quentin Corriott to Washington yeah wow Chris Samuel the offensive lineman yeah man Man. Yeah, it's tough, Ocho. And that's where you got to have real strong leadership. Because when one side is pulling their weight and the other side ain't pulling their weight, frustration starts to bubble. You got to have some real, real, real, real strong leadership. Tennessee had some chances to win that game.

1:06:10They did.

1:06:11Shannon Sharpe:They did. They absolutely did. They absolutely did. Oh, Joe, Bills wide receiver Keon Coleman is reportedly likely to be inactive for the second consecutive game. Keon is expected to sit tomorrow against Texans, according to Eric Turner of Cover One. Earlier in the week, Coach Sean McDermott said he needs to see Keon show growth to get back on the field. On Thursday night against the Texans, the Bills are likely to go with Joshua Palmer, Elijah Moore, Tyrell Shavers, Khalil Shakir, and Gabe Davis as active. Hey, listen, they're going with the veterans. They're going with the veterans. Hey, listen, obviously as a rookie, you know, you want to come in and make your impact.

1:06:52But they have players that are a little bit more impactful, a little bit more impactful than you are and bring a little bit more to the table than you do. So, you know, obviously, I mean, at this point, we're going into week 12, week 13, whatever it may be. I mean, it's already set in stone. I mean, anything that you could have shown or proved that you could do, you haven't done it to date, which is why they're comfortable making you inactive, showing you that we can get the job done without you, especially as productive as they were offensively last week without you. Hell, you know that. We don't need it.

1:07:26Shannon Sharpe:I got a great story to tell you and Joe. Yeah, we had, what, five, six touchdowns, and you didn't play? So, well, hell, what's the point of this point? Six. Six. 317 yards. Yeah. Hey, so, hey, you know what that mean? To me, all it says is Keon Coleman, young bull, I know you're going to see this. You know, I love you to death. We talk all the time. Come on down here with me in the offseason. Come on down here with me in the offseason. I guarantee you they'll never sit you down again. Even if you do miss a meeting, you'll be too valuable for them and what you bring to the table on a Sunday for them to sit you down.

1:08:03Come on down here, work with your boy now.

1:08:07Shannon Sharpe:I remember my rookie season. Dennis Smith, number 49, Ocho. We called him Kahuna. And Kahuna, I mean, he was one of the guys that from the time I got there, he always, I don't know what it was, but the veteran players, a lot of the veteran players that were really good took a liking to me. Him, Elway. I mean, veteran players, Kahuna got there in 81. John got there, obviously, in 83 with the trade through Baltimore. more. But the Vets took a liking to me. And I remember him saying, Sharp, never let them see they can win without you. Ojo, that's why I shot up a lot of times. Because I didn't want my backup to get in.

1:08:47Shannon Sharpe:And then all of a sudden, he played well. And then all of a sudden, they figured they could move on from me. So that was also another reason that I shot up. But I'd never forget him saying that. He said, Sharp, never let them see that they can win without you. If you notice, who adopts that, the quarterbacks, Brady take every rep. Peyton Manning took every rep. Brett Favre took every rep. Drew Brees took every rep. You not finna see if that guy can play or he can't play. Right. Because I'm never gonna give you an opportunity to let you see if he can play. You just got to go on your instinct because I ain't coming out of there.

1:09:20Shannon Sharpe:See what Keon Coleman did, he allowed them to let Terrell Shavers get on the field and show. We can win without him. Now once they find out they can win without you, guess what they'll do, Ocho? win without you and they'll move on. Now, the coach says, I need to see growth. We having a conversation about a guy in the second year that shows growth. Now, I'm going to tell you, look, got a great personality. Hey, the best. But after a while, they're going to be laughing at you. You're talking about, guess what this jacket, guess where I got this jacket from? I'm going to go back and guess. It's funny, key, key, key.

1:09:55Shannon Sharpe:But at the end of the day, you better be putting some points on the board. You better be getting some yards. You better be getting some catches. You better get some sacks, some interceptions. you better do something other than make them laugh because they're going to say you need to go to the improv you need to be at the laugh factory because the football field ain't where you need to be at the end of the day as my good friend Glo said the day going to end and when it ends you better have catches, yards and touchdowns if you play on the opposite side of football as a skilled position player and they not playing it's too much money involved because before you know it they're going to have to make an investment 20, 25, 30, 35 40 million dollars and they say hold on you doing this and you on your rookie contract what's going to happen if we give you 30 million oh Joe yeah you're right you got to be special there got to be something about you Joe there got to be something about you as a receiver that separates you everybody play receiver everybody can run everybody can catch what is it about you that makes you that much more valuable and better than the next man It got to be one thing.

1:11:01It ain't got to be a bunch. It's got to be one thing that separates you from everybody else. Hey, Unk, Joe, you know on every NFL team, there's a number one receiver and there's a number two receiver. There's something about that number one receiver that the number two can't do. Whatever it may be, they both play the same position, but one is a little better than the other. You have to find that one niche. It got just one, Joe. That's it. That's all it takes. And they got to find it. His personality is so big. It's so big. If we can get his game on the field to match his personality. Game got to match it, though.

1:11:34Oh, my. Hey, Joe, I'm talking about his two players I want to work with so bad, Joe. So bad. Because I know if I can get them anywhere close to how their personality is in front of that camera off the field, we talk about all world. We talk about all world. They can be in a conversation of top five based on if they can get their skill set up to par to match their personality. Yeah. John Coleman is one. The other one is Xavier Leggett.

1:11:58Shannon Sharpe:Hey, listen. Hey, them boys electric when that camera's in front of them, boy. If I can get their game to match their personality, man. Oh, okay, Ocho. I like Keon Coleman. And this could be a wake-up call for him. You know, for him to be a healthy scratch again. Like, you know, you know, what could potentially be coming next down the pipe. Man, this should make him really look at himself in the mirror and get to work. And be like, man, when I get back out there, I got to get them boys held. You know what I mean? So I'm hoping he takes some good from this, bro, because I seen him over there dancing and all that when he knew he was out.

1:12:40Shannon Sharpe:Hey, look. That hurt me. Man, I tell my son who went to college, I say, hey, bro, they watching you. Even when you don't think they watching you, boy, they watching you. Yeah, they watching you. So you sit over there and mope, pout, and do all that. Man, them folks watching, man. Always. We've all been here. the longer you go without something, the easier it is to be without something. The longer they play without Keon in that lineup, the easier it becomes for them to play without him in the lineup. I'll give you a prime example. You saw they say CD and pick went out. Now, if that's the third, fourth, and fifth receiver, they're not even playing.

1:13:21Shannon Sharpe:Right. But that's the one and two receiver. They miss a series. You see the difference? Yeah. Jimmy Johnson say, Jimmy Johnson cut a guy for sleeping in the meeting. The reporter said, well, Jimmy, if that was Troy and he was sleeping in the meeting, what would you have done? He said, I woke his ass up. One guy get cut, the other guy get woken up. Ask Mike, what about, you know, you say you lead the players if they're not there. Well, what if it's TD? What if it's Sharp? What if it's Elway? Well, that's the one thing about charting the flight. They'll wait on you. We're going to wait. but you understand the level of importance by some of the things that you can get away with but I'm going to be on time because I need to be on the back of the plane to make sure when everybody else get on I see what they're wearing so I can cut their ass up when they got on some bulljot and that's what my job was, okay, get to the plane early so I can see what you got on you know if you got on bus two, that's what sharp was, that's what them jonahs were if you got on some bulljot Don't you get on bus too.

1:14:24Shannon Sharpe:We had coaches getting on our bus. Man, I just want to see what 84 going to say about what such and such got on. Come to the right place. Because I'm going to tear his ass up. But Keon, don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you, hey, let us cut you. Don't you give us a reason to cut you. Yeah. They will. Boy, do you understand? There's a guy in college right now, won't Keon Colvin spot. There's a guy in high school, want to be a starting receiver, want to be a receiver on the Buffalo Bills. And high school. Bruh. And got his head down working. These y 'all, this ain't no doctor, no lawyer. You don't get no 30-year career in the NFL.

1:15:04Shannon Sharpe:They replace every year the turnover. That's why the average NFL career is 2.3 years. Even when you get a guy like Aaron Rodgers, they got 20 seasons. Even you got a guy like Mercedes Lewis, they got 20 seasons. And 15 and 18. The average NFL career is 2.3 years. That's it. So how many guys, in order for that 20 and 18 and 15, Ocho, to drag it down to 2.3, that means a lot of guys playing one year or not even playing at all. At all. Absolutely. Hey, look at it. Look at the NBA. It's 450 guys every year, not just this year, not last year, every year. So if they got 50 new guys coming in every year, guess what?

1:15:42Shannon Sharpe:They got to have at least 50 going out. 50 guys got to go. It's 450 guys. There's only 450 guys every year, bro. Hey, that's why you got to stay on top of your game. That's why you got to continuously train. That's it. And don't give them a reason to. You got to get better.

1:16:03Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, tonight, this game wasn't close. Jackson Dart did it with his arm and his leg. Scat Pack was sensational. 19 carries, 98 yards, three touchdowns. Jackson Dart, 13 carries, 58 yards, another touchdown. They gained 172 yards on the ground. Jackson Dart was 17 to 25, 195, one touchdown. He was sacked, but he didn't turn the ball over. And when you can take care of the football and you play, you have a great chance of winning. Jalen Hurst was 24-33, 283, one touchdown. Ocho, what do we say about that late ball if you're late and inside? It's going the other way every time. And it almost did.

1:16:43Shannon Sharpe:They ran the ball 20 times for 73 yards. but they ran the tush push four times in a row. They got a touchdown on it. Dallas Gardner has seven catches, 110 yards, a touchdown. A.J. Brown has six for 80. Devontae Smith, who Jalen Hurts overthrew, would have had like a 90-yard touchdown, but he had four for 49. Ocho, the Giants just – the Giants did whatever they wanted to do. Both sides of the ball, too, at that. Both sides of the ball at that. For one, I want to talk about Jackson Dart. I want to tell you how good Jackson Dart looks as a rookie. Obviously, Russell Wilson started the season for the Giants, but when Jackson Dart got this opportunity, he came in and closed the door right behind him.

1:17:25Yep. He's making the throws. He's reading. He's improvising. He's escaping. He's eluding. He's using his legs. He's using his arm. His best weapon went down with knee injury, but you wouldn't know that his best weapon offensively outside of Scatterbow was hurt. Jackson Dart is a real deal. And he's very exciting. The combination of him and Scatterbow together, it's like two little kids. It's like two little kids out there on the playground just enjoying the game of football at the highest level. And it's refreshing. It's refreshing for the Giants fans. As you can see and you can hear, you know, you watch the game with the sound off.

1:18:08But just watching the reaction and the sound of the Giants.

1:18:11Shannon Sharpe:Oh, they're going to go. I can see the fans. when they're paying and the fans go, I'm sure they're saying Boo, like for Scatterbow, Scat Pack was doing his thing. Jackson Dart, I'm sure they're howling Dart. Look, this was – and we'll get to this, Ocho, because the Eagles didn't play well and they got some issues and we tried to tell them about the issues that they have. But you know what, Ocho? But you can't tell Giants fans anything because if I critique Jalen Hurts, you don't like black people. You don't say this about white quarterbacks. If I critique their team, I'm jealous. I'm envious. Okay, fine.

1:18:46Shannon Sharpe:I should have your undivided attention because I couldn't get your attention at first because you've winning. You see that? When you're winning, you can't get nobody's attention. Now I should have your undivided attention because you lost twice. The Giants, they got the makings of a good team. The only thing that concerns me, Ocho, is pressure. There were times back there that Jalen Hurst would just... Sitting there, patting the ball. and two of the three and two of the four pass rushers was on the ground they've got to generate pressure because they don't have elite on the back end and so you should be able when you got d lawrence when you got a a fibido when you got a abdul carter that should be more than enough to create pressure to create havoc and not nearly and i forgot brian burns brian burns yeah that should be enough more than enough to create havoc not enough havoc was created tonight you won the game but in order for you to keep building on this you got 10 weeks you got 10 days off you get an opportunity to soak in this I'm sure the Giants fans are going crazy somewhat crazy because the Yankees lost last night but if you're a Giant fan you look at Jackson Dahl you're like man he won his first game he was playing really well against the Saints and then he started turning the ball over.

1:20:03Shannon Sharpe:If we can protect the ball, I think we might got something. Scat Pack was doing what Scat Pack does. He runs hard. He's looking to run through, as Marshawn Lynch would say, run through a mofo face, and he runs with authority. He's looking to deliver a blow. When he blocks, he's blocking all out. When he's running, he's running all out. He missed a couple of cuts early, but hey, all is forgiven. He's a rookie. He'll get better as time progresses. But I thought the Giants offensive line, Ocho, when we talked about that thing with the sieve. that people just come into a you're gonna block him but they did a great i thought they did a better job tonight of protecting jackson dart he did a great job of avoiding the rush when he needed to run he got rid of got uh he got out of the pocket when he needed to throw the ball away he threw it away i like what i saw from the new york football giant wandel robinson had himself a game a little john humphrey i thought he made some plays tonight ocho uh but i mean what can we say, the Giants, I mean, I don't think anybody really had picked the Giants to win this game, but it just goes to show you, hey, you take care of the football and it's a division game, Mocho.

1:21:12Shannon Sharpe:It's a rival game. You know, you throw workers out the window when you're playing a rival now. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. But listen, you also understand if you're a bed man, if you're a bed man, you're definitely picking the Eagles. Yes. Well, I wonder what the line was. You know what the line was, Ocho? No, I... It had to be It had to be, I'm thinking, at least four, four and a half. Listen, you're going against a rookie quarterback, defending Super Bowl champs. Everybody named I'm going to probably pick the Eagles to actually win this game. But when you have a quarterback like Jackson Dart, who has been as exciting as he is, who has been unpredictable as he's been since he's gotten the starting job, I mean, for those who actually know and understand the game of football, and based on the small sample size of Jackson Dart that we've been able to see, you throw caution to win when you come to bed against the Giants, especially after tonight's performance.

1:22:03So going forward, you know, I think things are going to change a little bit when it comes to watching, not only watching the Giants, but putting whatever money you want to on them to win a certain game or a specific game at that.

1:22:16Shannon Sharpe:It seems like the line was seven, seven and a half, depending on where you was batting, who you was batting, you know, what line you took.

1:22:26Shannon Sharpe:I'm confused, Ocho. Talk to me. Wait, before you say anything, let me get comfortable.

1:22:34Shannon Sharpe:I'm confused as to what they're doing with A.J. Brown. I watched a man run two unders in a row. I'm like, is that the only route y 'all believe A.J. Brown can run? He run under. They try to run him on like a little 6-7 yard out. But I don't see no imagination in the routes. I don't see no creativity in the calls. Man, look, they're running smash concepts. They run the sale and then they run the spot, what we call a spot route. Or they'll run the out and then they'll run the under. Or Devontae would try to start in the slot and he'll run the fade. Or he'll run the smash route. I mean, he'll run and Brown would run the under.

1:23:23Shannon Sharpe:I'm like, damn. If I'm Jalen Hurts, I'm tired of running these damn under routes. Give me a dig. Give me a comeback. Give me a deep over. Give me something. Hey, run a bang. Yeah. We ain't got no bangs. Yeah, I will say they made a conscious effort to give him the ball. They made a conscious effort to give him the ball in the first half, and there were some plays that had broken down where he was able to scramble out the pocket and get the ball to A.J. It wasn't many of them, but he had a better stat line this week, you know, this game. Second best most yards he's had. He had that 100-yard game against the Rams where they were down about a lot at the half, and then they came out and made a conscious effort like we got to throw the ball because we can't run ourselves back in the ball game.

1:24:06Shannon Sharpe:And it was like, okay, A.J. So he had six for 80. Dallas Goddard had nine for 110. Smitty would have been over 100 had Jalen not overthrew him. He put a little bit too much gas up on it. Devontae ran a really good route, had him. I mean, he could have walked backwards and gotten to the end zone because it looked like his defender had fallen down, don't you? Yeah. When you look at the Eagles, what's going on? Clearly, clearly that meeting didn't help. Yeah. I don't know what they discussed. I don't care to know. 34-17, it's been a while since the Eagles lost the game by that. And this game wasn't, I mean, this thing got out of hand quick.

1:24:49Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it did. It did. And I would think some, obviously, I think we'll start up front with some of the pieces to that offensive line being missing, small holes that you try to cover up, you know, weak links that you try to cover up, but you just can't. There's a reason why Saquon Barkley isn't being as successful in the running game as he was last year. He wasn't, Ocho. You knew they were – Ocho, you thought they were going to let that man come back and rush for another 2 ,000? Hey, you do understand the Eagles do have the best offensive line in the league. Yes, but teams are making a concerted effort.

1:25:28Shannon Sharpe:What did I tell you? If you're going to beat me, you're going to beat me with Jalen Hurst throwing the football. Oh, yeah. Because I like my chances better beating you with him throwing the football than Saquon Barkley running for 125 a game. Right. It's really that simple, and that's not a knock. I'm not going to let – but I'm not going to let you have a two-way go of it. Now Saquon's running it. Now you play action and throw the ball over the top of my head. Nah, nah, nah. If he's going to throw the ball with pinpoint accuracy, and guess what I'm going to do, Ojo? I'm not going to drop eight in the box.

1:26:00Shannon Sharpe:I'm not going to throw one-on-one. I'm going to make you throw through zones. I'm going to make you throw the coverage. Now you do that consistently, okay, I tip my hat to you. I can live with that. But I am not going to let Saquon do what he did last year and then be at your mercy. Now you throw when you want to. you run when you want to you got me begging man throw the ball man run the ball nah hell nah you're gonna beg for something different uh look it's early in the season but clearly um something is something is amiss with the eagles um it's hard to pick right up where you left off Ocho and someone that has been in that situation you have to you have to really you have to really turn your mind off to like man we won the Super Bowl yeah you did that last year you think these teams gonna roll over just because you won the Super Bowl you're their Super Bowl this year oh yeah the teams that didn't win the Super Bowl guess what when they see your ass on the schedule now that gives us cop you know what Brian Dayball said that's the defending Super Bowl champs and we just hung 34 on them.

1:27:11Shannon Sharpe:You see, when we play, we can beat anybody in this league. That's what they're saying. Because that's the Eagles. That's the defending Super Bowl champ. So now teams base how good they are on whether or not they beat them. And now you see why? Now this gives you a better reason why Hurtz, when they ask him about the Super Bowl and how it feels to be defending champs, why he throws it out the door. That was last year. Absolutely. Because he understood how difficult it would be to not only repeat, but to have the same success going into this season. The same way. Now we're seeing the struggles that they are having, being that they're not at full strength, especially at the offensive line.

1:27:57Some of the defensive pieces are a little different than they were last year. And things are different. New offensive coordinator, things have to evolve offensively. You know, you can't be too predictable. Last year, because the running game was so efficient, you could damn near do what you want to do. Exactly. And you can throw it when you want to. You got to pick your poison on what you want to do. Now things are a little different, and now you're going to get to see the better part of the Eagles. You're going to have to dig down, Ocho. We got to dig. Yeah, they can do one or two things. You can come together and fix it, or things are going to continue to splinter.

1:28:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You know what I mean? And we're not going to make no excuses. Oh, the Eagles beat themselves. It looked like to me the Giants had 34 and the Eagles had 17. It didn't say Eagles 1 had 34 and the Eagles 2 had 17. Right, right. Ain't no beat yourself because, see, that's the excuses you make. Last week, man, they should have called pass interference. That was a pass interference. You see what happens, Ocho? If you lose by a little, I can go back and point the faith. Well, if he had done this, we had done that. But see, when I beat hell out of you, what you going to say? So what pass interference that would have made up 17 points?

1:29:07Shannon Sharpe:What holding call? Man, they was holding. So what holding call would have made up 17 points? What did I miss? What offsides, what penalty that they didn't call that would have made up for 17 points? Oh, I feel bad for my guy Gilly.

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson provide the most captivating NFL moments from 2025. They react to the sheer madness surrounding Shedeur Sanders’ rookie season with the Cleveland Browns. Unc and Ocho are left speechless by the Dallas Cowboys’ shocking trade of Micah Parsons to the Green Bay Packers and Ja’Marr Chase spitting on Jalen Ramsey!

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0:00 - Micah traded to Packers
24:00 - Ja’Marr Chase suspended for spitting
36:52 - Bears stun Packers in OT with Caleb Williams to DJ Moore walk-off TD
45:30 - Jets bench Justin Fields
55:28 - Bills Sit Keon Coleman Again
1:05:13 - Dart and Skat SHOCK Eagles

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