Nightcap Best of Boxing Guests Part 2: What's next for Shakur Stevenson? + Lamon Roach Jr. feels ROBBED

21:34Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. because I think obviously Everlast, Grant winning Reyes and you mentioned Rifle. I've never heard of that. I've never heard of those gloves before. Ocho, these eight ounces, these right here cut. It don't matter. Listen, they cut for an object that's not moving. It's different when there's an object in front of you that's moving. Facts.

22:03Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you there, Ocho. The king. I'm just going to stick that jam out there. I'm going to do you just how. I'm going to do you how Tommy Hearn did, Marty.

22:20Shannon Sharpe:I tell you what, Ocho. I box you for the gloves. If you beat me, you get my gloves. I don't want them gloves. I don't want them gloves.

22:33I just want my gloves.

22:34Shannon Sharpe:You got to snap that thing out there like a last. See, some people use that jab as a finder. They ain't trying to do no damage. They just trying to see, okay, how far did I can throw this right? But see, I'm trying to snap that thing, bam, like Lennox Lewis. No, Lennox Lewis had a nice jab. Larry Holmes had a tremendous jab. Larry Holmes. What? I want to see your jab, though. Let me see your jab. Oh, you want to say, hey. Hey. So in that chair, huh? Quit with that thing. I'm quitting with that thing, Shakur.

23:09Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey. I'm finna parry that and come right back with something, man. Oh, I know. Hey, I done saw you. I done saw you, Ocho. Your reflexes ain't as fast as you think now. Oh, no. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. See, this is the funny thing. if everybody want to go back to when I fought my young bull Brian Maxwell in the ring that's different now you got to understand I done been in the ring now five years after that so I look I look nothing like that that's why I'm trying to say Shakur you can take can you tell sparring is different than actually fighting and you got to fight it's just like track and field you can practice all you want to but you got to get races under your belt you got to get in ring you got to get rounds and ting.

23:54Shannon Sharpe:Not all that speed bag and all that miss and stuff. Nah. You ain't did that. I know one thing. I got two people on my hit list. Oh, James Harrison? James Harrison. I'm going to beat his ass. Andre Warf going to get his work. And anybody else that won't smoke after that. Matter of fact, Shakur, you can get it too. Damn, Shakur. Yo, I ain't going to lie. I already told you this last time I saw you. don't do it to yourself. Do it to him. No. Don't do it to yourself. Get my 5 ,900 out of him. I'm telling you, this thing. Hey, whenever you, hey, whenever you want to get back in the gym, you let me know.

24:33How many rounds you going to give me? Huh? How many rounds you going to give me? I can't go past eight. I can give you, I can give you a strong eight. Four minutes. Four minute round, 30 second rest. I'm betting you ain't making an eight round. I bet he ain't either.

24:48Shannon Sharpe:Eight four minute rounds with 30 second rest. You ain't got that kind of cardio, bro. Not in no 46. That's how I've been training the past four years. How you gonna tell me what I'ma do? You ain't got... With boots. I'm talking about affiliate with boots. That's what we had to do. That's what Bozy had me doing. Thanks for having me ate four minutes, Ross. No, I only got four in. I only did four. Actually, that's what I'm trying to tell you. This shit did me. Ain't no way you're gonna eat with me. I'm telling you. Get it. Get my$5 ,900 out of this ass, too, to school while you're at it. You think shit's sweet, huh?

25:23I know you can't go eating with me, bro. That shit's different.

25:27Shannon Sharpe:Hey, don't hit him in his face because I need his eyes. I need him to be able to read the prompter. But just tear his body up. I'm going to tell you, I'm not going to hit him in the face. I'm going to stretch his body. That's what I do. Make him pee on himself. Hey. I'm going to be tucked in. I'm ready for all of that, man. I'm going to be tucked in. Okay. You tell me, go to the side. I'm going right to the side. That's what I like to see. That's what I like to see, Shakur. That's what I'm talking about. Ocho gonna have all the pins on under his trunks.

26:06Oh, man. Hey, but all jokes aside, man, you put on a effing boxing. Yeah, that was amazing. I'm going to tell you, congratulations on that, man. They're shutting up all these doubters and all the haters. Now they're going to find something else to come up with. They're going to find something else to come up with, and you're probably going to answer those questions too, man. I just want to tell you congratulations on one hell of a goddamn fight and career so far. I appreciate y 'all. I appreciate y 'all, man.

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29:23Shannon Sharpe:Joining us now. Fought to a majority draw Saturday night. It doesn't look like he's too pleased with that. and there are a lot of people on social media that actually thought he won that fight. Joining us, Lamont Rose Jr. Lamont, how you doing, bro? What's up, man? I'm good, man. Thanks for having me. I feel real good. No, thanks for having me. Thanks for joining us. Take us through Saturday night. You go into that fight, you move up five pounds, you're 135, you move up. And you're feeling, I mean, everybody's that man, they know he got no chance. Tank told you a couple of days earlier, hey, you're not going the distance.

30:02Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all shake for a little bit, 250, whatever the case may be. You go into that fight. You know Tank's a slow starter, builds up as the fight progresses, know he's trying to land, hook to the body, come up top with it. What was your process? What were you going into that fight? How did you want to fight, and did the fight turn out the way you thought it would? Well, honestly, yeah, the fight went exactly how we planned it to go, honestly. You know, we're familiar with him. We've been familiar with him. We just knew it was a matter of time for everything to fall into play. And back to the whole everybody not giving me a shot, saying I'm going to get knocked out and all this and all that.

30:45I know what I'm capable of. And I know what I could do. Like, they just, in a nutshell, they had me totally messed up. And especially when he bet me saying he was going to stop me. I told him himself. I said, you tripping. I said, I don't know what got into your head these last couple minutes, few days, whatever the case. You tripping. You know you're not going to do that. I don't even know why. I told him, I said, I know you know you're not going to do that. Cut it out. Yeah. Hey, listen, when you talk about you're very familiar with him, and I understand you and your team, you went into the fight with a game plan.

31:22Is the familiarity the fact that you guys probably trained together in the past or you've been in camp together in the past, you sparred together. Is that why you were so familiar in whatever game plan your team did have and were able to execute? Is that why it went so well? I mean, yeah, it's one of the many reasons why it went so well. Even though we were kids, some of them traits, characteristics, and just ways of a man grew with him. Yeah. Yes, sir. you know, some of the, some of the, like, some of the dirty tactics, I knew that he'll, you know, revert to that, um, when that pressure built up, when somebody that was there wasn't scared of him, when somebody was there that was there to return fire, and, you know what I'm saying, he ain't been in the ring, in his professional career, he hasn't been in the ring with something like that, or something like the caliber of what I got.

32:14Right, so what I thought, obviously, watching the fight, And when I look at all his team fights, most of the time, obviously, he starts slow. And then round five, six, he starts to pick it up a little bit. And by the time as he's picking it up, normally his opponent is deteriorating. The condition ain't where it's supposed to be. But I'm looking at you. They get to round six and seven, and he coming forward, and you not even moving. So at that point, y 'all mid-range, you sitting in the pocket. And most of the time, when he hits somebody, they retreat. But you took one to give one. And I'm like, what, E-Boy going at it?

32:50I'm like, so did the power not affect you in any way where you didn't really care? Were you just sat in the pocket with him in exchange? Because most of the time, I mean, you got to be cautious. You got to be cautious because when throwing punches, you know, you got a chance to get hit. You know, when you let him go, did you not care at all? Or did you feel his power early and really wasn't worried about it? So it wasn't that I wasn't I wasn't caring. It's I was cautious. Like you said, I was cautious, but the defense is there and the confidence was through the roof. And I got a chin. You keep a spade to spade.

33:25You know what I'm saying? I see why he knocked people out. I'm not going to say the power is overrated, but I've been in there with guys who can punch. I mean, with guys who can punch. So it was nothing new to me. I've been in there with middleweight champions. I've been in there with junior middleweight champions. I mean, like, as they were champion in their prime and stuff like that. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was confident in what I could do defensively. And if I get hit, I know I was going to give it right back. So, listen, in the ninth round, I'm sorry, you know, I get excited.

34:01I don't mean to take over. Listen, hey, young boy, in the ninth round, you know, Javante took a knee. Obviously, there's some controversy behind that. It wasn't ruled a knockdown by the referee. I've never seen that ever. And in my years of watching, you know, watching boxing, enjoying the sport of combat sports in general, did that moment impact your strategy for the remainder of the fight? I'm going to say no. And let me tell you why. The simple fact that he took the knee is, is. It was really a boost because it's like, all right, it's all right. What we doing is working. We know that. Yeah.

34:40He's looking for something. It should have been a knockdown one. So that's why I'm yelling at the referee, like, keep counting. Like, you tripping. Keep counting. That's a knockdown. Because if y 'all didn't notice, he started to count. He started to count.

34:53Shannon Sharpe:He did. And then he stopped? He stopped. Okay. So when he resumed the action, I'm like, what you doing? Keep counting. Like, you can't do that. so and then it wasn't even registering or processing through my mind the other rules right to the simple fact that he could have got disqualified for having his corner come up to the ring and assist him during the round or why you can't come to the man or he can't turn his back on like during the fight that's cause for that's that's the wave at all he took a knee and then turned around and went to the corner. Bradford usually stopped the fight. Oh, I didn't know that.

35:40Shannon Sharpe:I'm watching you. A lot of times when people hit Tank, like Ochoa was saying, they retreat. But it seemed like you had a strategy. If he hit me, I'm going to hit his ass back just as hard as many times as he hit me. And I don't think he expected you to return the kind of fire that you returned because you wobbled him a couple of times. And I'm not so sure that I've seen tank wobble like when you caught him a couple of times and you was getting through the guard. I mean, hey, normally a southpaw fighter, that lead right is a home run right down, and it's right down Broad Street. And you kept touching him with it.

36:10For sure. It was one of the many things that we trained for. Obviously, he happy-go-lucky with his left. And he'd been working for his whole career. He'd been knocking these dudes out. So, you know, we've been training. We've been sitting on the left, being able to, working on countering, working on, you know uh being able to block and come back and uh we had some pretty fast guys and then we had some pretty strong guys that i had to you know uh switch rounds with every like you know every spawn system so you know we was ready we was prepared and um like you said them dudes wasn't really really cracking him back and i was really throwing that fire at him and the accuracy is was really probably pissed them off too and the fact that i was busy it's like all right this ain't

36:56Shannon Sharpe:stopping yeah i thought you did an unbelievable job of keeping the pace up like ocho said he's a guy that likes to start slow so he has some energy reserve so when he comes out from five through 12 he's like i got a lot left i know i ain't really spent no gas i hey i just been coasting i've been on electric mode now i got this fire i got this gas in the tank i'm finna unleash but it meant you met fire with fire when and i've heard floyd say that like when he went into a fight He never watched tape on the guy that he was fighting. He left that up to his corner to watch the fight and then tell him instructions.

37:34Shannon Sharpe:He would take all that information, and then once he got into the ring, blah, blah, blah. Do you watch fight? When you're going against a fighter, do you watch them, or you leave that up to your corner to watch and then give you an instruction on what you should do? I don't watch them a lot. I just so happen to be a boxing fan that the fact that I do watch him fight, you know what I'm saying? I really like boxing. And he's somebody to watch. He's a spectacle. He's a knockout artist, skilled guy, like one of the better pound-for-pound fighters. I like watching good fights. So I do know some of his tendencies.

38:07But to study him, not really. I left it up to my dad. But one time, one day, like one day in camp, we did sit down and watch a few of his fights back-to-back. Okay. Hey, listen, Tank has publicly expressed interest, obviously, in a rematch. You want a rematch as well. Are you open to immediate rematch? Or do you have a – you don't need a tune-up, but do you have a tune-up fight just to keep yourself going? Or do y 'all run it right back? Immediate. Immediate. Just to let y 'all know, in my contract, immediate rematch was signed. I signed for the immediate rematch when I signed for the first fight, just in case he lost or just in case it was a draw.

38:50So they put that clause in there. They put a rematch clause in there. So I already signed a rematch clause. Okay. So when you got a rematch clause, how long are we taking? How long is the break before you start training again? Is it six months from now? It's up to the A side. How does that work? It's up to the A side and when they want to fight. So I'm thinking it's going to be soon. I'm hoping it's going to be soon. Let's say that. I'm saying from a boxing standpoint, as a boxer, what is soon to you? I mean, when you say soon to me, I'm thinking a month. I know that's going to happen. I'm thinking July.

39:21I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July for sure. Okay.

39:27Shannon Sharpe:But if I'm not mistaken, Lamont, I think I read something that he reached out to Lomachenko's side and see if they were interested. Did you read that also? Did you see that? I did see that. You can't believe everything you see. And if it is true, you know, that would be funny. but I'm pretty sure the rematch happens and I'm pretty sure that's the next fight for both of us. Well, let me ask you this. Would you be interested? Go ahead. I'm just, would you be interested in fighting Lomo or Teofimo Lopez? Of course. Or me? Uh-oh. Hold up, Chad. Hold up. Hold up, Chad. How about... Hey, put pause on it, Lamont.

40:05Put pause on it. Hey, Chad, I mean, hey, I don't know if you've seen me fight Saturday. I really do this. Yeah. Hey, I was there. I was there. Listen, Listen, I've been studying you for years. You hear me? Okay. Listen, I don't have the time, but I can tell you your tendencies right now, round one through seven. Okay. So if we was to get in there and spar right now, I could tell you what you're going to do by looking at your feet. When you got your hand down by your hip and you step forward, you're going to faint. You know what? I ain't going to need no more keys. But listen, I've been studying you.

40:37I know you. So if you want to spar at any point, if you get ready for the next fight. You're a southpaw, right? I think I'm saying you work. You're a southpaw, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got hands.

40:46Shannon Sharpe:He ain't got no power, though. He ain't got no power? He got pillows. He got pillows at the end of his arm. He ain't got no power, Lamont. Hey, Lamont, listen. No, a number of cake blows. No, no, no. Hey, Lamont, where I'm from, they call me hella hands. Yeah, they call me hella hands. But listen, I'm reflecting on your performance, right? In that fight, bro, I don't know. Your game plan was phenomenal. Everything you did, you executed from round one all the way to 12. after you have a fight like that and you put on a show like that what aspects I mean like what's how do you improve off of that because if you were to grade your performance that night you get an A plus so what do you go back what do you go back and work on after putting on a goddamn show like that man just just going on see my thing is I always want to get better all the time no matter if I do have a good performance or not I just go back and I watch the tape and see what he do.

41:48Obviously, whatever he come with the next one, then we just got to still capitalize. We're going to add to what works. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But we're going to add to it. We're going to build. We're going to build. We're going to build. Might try to pick it up so we can see if we can get that starbidge on that. You know what I'm saying? You never know. That's how you capitalize. That's how you capitalize. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Boy, your condition was on point, boy. Old school fighter, man. 15-round fighter over here, man. For real? For sure. I was at camp spying 13, 14 rounds.

42:21Wait, with time or no time? No, with time, for sure. With time. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. You know, I did 22 rounds, no clock. Chad, we're going to get you a camp. Maybe you can get me ready for the rematch. Hey, matter of fact, bring me to camp. I ain't going to charge you. I ain't going to charge you. I give you four rounds. I let somebody else go for it, and I'll come back for another vote. Pre-exchange, no robbery.

42:44Shannon Sharpe:I like that. All right, back. Man, Lamont, will you put pause on this, man? Don't beat him up too bad because I need him. I need him for the night count. So I don't want him to come back and talk about slurring. I don't want him to come back and talk about the champ. He's going to be all right. I think he's going to be all right. Don't just give him body blows. Don't hit him on his head, Gil. Just give him body blows. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. My defense is my offense. I ain't going to get hit. I'm good. Lamont, a lot of times when guys win, and they get a rematch, they're like, well, I don't have anything to improve upon, and they run into a problem.

43:17Shannon Sharpe:Because you had a draw, can you go back and say, you know what? In this situation here, I should have did this instead of that, and I might have been able to land something. Is that how you go back and approach the fight? Because you didn't get the win, and so you're like, well, I didn't get the win. I didn't lose, technically, but I didn't win either. And I think as a fighter, you know, draws and ties, that ain't what we do it for. We want to be winning. We want to be on the top spot. And because you didn't land on the top spot, you feel that, you know what, go back and watch this fight through 12 rounds.

43:48Shannon Sharpe:Maybe if I pick it up through the first three or four rounds, maybe that's a round or two that I win. And we don't even have this discussion at the end because it looked like they gave you round 12. Had you not won round 12, he would have wanted to say it, honestly. So to me, I thought I won the fight clearly. I thought I won a close fight. I thought I won a very competitive fight. I'm not saying I steamrolled him or whatever. But to me, I think I won a fight. Now, granted, ninth round should have been called a knockdown. Two judges on the official scorecards gave him the round 10-9. If that was a knockdown, I win the round 10-8.

44:26That's a three-point swing. I will win a unanimous decision. So you got to take all of that into account. is three things that could have happened in that ninth round alone with that knee. It could have been a 10-8 round score to knockdown. It could have been a disqualification. Or I could have won by TKO. So honestly, when you look at that and you say, I got a draw against the number one spectacle in America, a pound-for-pound talent, and a guy with a 90 % knockout ratio, look at it and like okay if you got a draw more than likely you were supposed to win that night so even though i didn't get to win i'm not a moral victory guy i'm pissed that i didn't win honestly right exactly i'm pissed that i didn't win but i really think that that i should have um a lot of people think that i should have and the rematch is just going to make it worse for him because I got to rev it up.

45:31Like you said, I got to do something. I got to do something. I got to pick it up somewhere to turn this around and make it a victory for me.

45:42Shannon Sharpe:Lamont, you're moving up from super featherweight to lightweight. Were you afraid that moving up might rob you of some of the power because, you know, normally guys that move up, they lose some of the steam. Were you concerned about that? Are you going to stay? Are you going to stay in Superfeather? Are you looking to move up? Maybe go to 135, 140, even higher. No, no. One thing that 135 gave me is a lot more steam. I ain't going to lie. It was five less pounds I had to lose. So, you know, I felt. So what do you normally walk around at, Lamont? Normally, I want to say. 50, 55? Especially if I'm in the gym.

46:18No, no, no. I walk around like 150. Somewhere around 150, 149 on a good day. if I'm on vacation, I don't get no higher than 55.

46:29Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Okay. So I think that works. I think that's one of the things that helped Floyd Mayweather because Floyd is not a naturally big man. So it was easy for him to stay at 147 because Floyd only walking around at like 155 to begin with. So he go for six, eight weeks. He lose five pounds. That's his sweet spot. For sure. And that's another thing with you. It's not like you're walking around 165, 160, 165, and you got to strip down 35, 30 pounds. You're only having to come down 10, maybe even 15 pounds at a max. So that's not that drastic where you see these guys have to go through this massive dehydration in order to make weight because, man, you keep doing that flux of weight in your body, man.

47:14Shannon Sharpe:It takes something out of you, man. It definitely takes a toll on you, for sure. Hey, listen, after a fight like this, how much time do y 'all take off? Like, I mean, before you get back in and gradually just start building yourself back, not only in the shape, but just making sure you don't lose that rhythm and consistency. It's tough, man, especially how boxing is today. That's more so like a personal. So me personally, I don't like being out of the gym too long. I get cussed out by my doctor because he tells me to take a break. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. And I understand because your body do need to heal, rest.

47:52I've been through an eight-week training camp and then went through a hard 12-round fight. So, you know, got to get your body together, take some time off. Because when you peak, when you peak and you peak at the right time, and I think I peaked at the perfect time on Saturday night. Right. It's, you know, it depletes you. So, I get a little rest. I get a little rest probably like two weeks. I want to be back in the gym. One, because I probably get you heavy and I'm like, I don't feel right. And I be bored. I normally be in the gym. So that's how I go. Rob Markman, Ph.D.: Where you live at? Rob Markman, Ph.D.: I live in DC.

48:31Rob Markman, Ph.D.: Okay. I'm going to make a little trip down there, man. Whenever you get back in the gym and you want to start sparring, I'm going to come down there and I got a little - Rob Markman, Ph.D.: I'm a bad man, Chad. I don't know. Rob Markman, Ph.D.: I know. I'm a bad man too. That's what my teacher called me when I got a little bet for you, right? We're going to do eight rounds, right? We're going to do eight rounds? Yeah, we're going to do eight. If you can beat me at least four rounds. Now, you know LeBron James, he just scored 50 ,000 points, right? He sent me the ball. If you can beat me, if you can win more rounds than me, I'll send you this ball he gave me to put up.

49:10I'm going to call my dad right now. We're going to set that up. We're going to set that up for sure. You gonna take that ball above him? Man, that's gonna be - You gonna get that ball above him? Okay. I'm in the trophy case. Right on top of the belt. Okay, matter of fact, I'm gonna make it easy for you. I'm only using my jab handle. Oh, man. You giving it away? Nah, I mean, listen. I can take what I'm doing. I'm still winning. That's what I do. I told you they call me hella hand. No, no, I'm telling you you giving the prize away. Bron ain't gonna like that. Oh, nah. You ain't gonna get that? You think I'm gonna lose you and lose that ball?

49:43For sure.

49:43Shannon Sharpe:Devil is alive. Hey, let me ask you this, Lamont. After the Tank fight, who would you like to fight after Tank? Are you going to stay? Are you going to stay? If you go back, if you rematch, you beat Tank at 135. Are you going to stay at 135 or slide back down to 130 or go up even to 140? It depends on what's available. If the champions at 35 are available, I want to fight them. I want to unify, obviously. Um, that's good for my career. It's like legacy fights. And on top of that, they big money fights. Um, money. If they not, if they not available, I would go definitely defend my title at 30 and probably try to unify there because I can make 30 comfortably.

50:30And, um, and I feel like I run that division. Like I probably can even go undisputed if they let me. That's loud.

50:41Shannon Sharpe:Lamar, being a student of the game. I know you heard your dad, you weren't around there, but I know your dad has told you or whomever in your corner about the four Kings, Hearns, Hagler, Duran, Leonard, and how they fought each other and all the top contenders in that they fought them. You go back to the seventies, you look at the heavyweights, they fought Norton, fought Ali. He fought Frazier. He fought, he fought Shavers. He fought Ali. Nobody ducked. Why is it now, Lamont, that we have guys and they want to cherry pick and don't want to take – it seems like – and I love Floyd. But Floyd, that 50-0, because nobody wants to take an ass-whipping now.

51:24Shannon Sharpe:Because now they feel like my legacy is ruined. I lost the fight. Some of the great fighters, we don't look at Ali because he lost three or four times, even when he looked bad fighting Trevor Burbank or Larry Holmes. We don't hold that against them. We don't hold it against Leonard. We don't hold it against Hagler. We don't hold against Hearns. We don't hold against nobody. I don't know. And I hate that I love Floyd and I'm glad he's undefeated. But everybody thinks now if I be undefeated, I'm going to be revered like Floyd. And it's not going to happen. It ain't. Floyd is one of a kind fighter, man.

51:57In the caliber. He is. Even if a lot of people do go undefeated and retire undefeated, it's not going to be the same. And it's not going to be the same because Floyd put it in his work. Floyd fought them guys when he was able to. He fought everybody. He fought them guys. And he earned the right to fight who he wanted to, when he wanted to, whatever the case may be. That's just a once-in-a-lifetime fighter. I don't know why the guys are not. Maybe I do. I'm going to give you a little scoop. These guys are worried about the money that they can make if they. if they still have an O on their record, they think that a blemish would knock down the value of whatever they have in their contract or whatever they have presented to them, which is crazy to me.

52:55I think if you put on a good enough fight, no matter if you win or lose, the performance is what matters. It's really what matters. So people want to pay to see you fight. if you fight the good fights, that's what...

53:10Shannon Sharpe:They're going to pay to see it. They're going to pay to see it. That's why pay-per-view numbers used to be so high because people are going to pay. They want to see certain fights. They want to see them fights. Look at Mickey. Look at Mickey Ward and Arturo Gatti. Ooh. That was jam-packed. Lost didn't matter. People still pay big money to see that because they know they were going to get action. Yeah. But now, Lamont, guys, like, you know what? Yeah, if I fought Lamont, I can make 15 mil but if I fight this guy that I know I can whip I can make 10 so why take the chance for an extra 5 when I can get this can over here and I can whip him for 10 so I just get me a couple I get me 5 or 10 of these 10 million dollar fights why would I need to take a risk for 2 of those big fights nah I ain't gonna do that but then you gotta think about that Lamont I told Uncle the other night we talked about this too right not only do certain people not want to take risks but you want to build it up until you get to the really, really good fight.

54:06So if you got, like you talk about the four, the four Kings back then, back in the day, right. And today's, if you've got the best boxes, right. And if all the best boxes fight each other right now and not have fight after fight after fight and actually build it. So people want to actually, actually want to watch and you can maximize your, your pay. That's a little different. Think about how long before Earl and Bud actually fought. Look how long it took. Look how many fights they had because they have the build up to it. So from that standpoint, I kind of get it and understand. You want to maximize your pay.

54:40You also, nobody wants to lose. But at some point, they ain't going to have no choice but to fight each other.

54:46Shannon Sharpe:But Ocho, you got to understand that. The timing got to be right. But think about it. And Lamont, you know this. Sugar Ray went to 160 to fly Hagler. He definitely did. He definitely did. He didn't come down. They went to him. They did. And you're talking about guys that's very similar. 130, 135. They went up two classes. Sugar Ray was 147, went to 160. Hagler, Hearns was 147, went to 160. He's definitely right about that. That's middleweight. And Ray and Duran started at 35.

55:21But Duran, you were that small? One of the best lightweights to ever do it.

55:27Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Horsehands were 135? A lot of those guys started, yes, a lot of those guys started there, Ocho. 30, 35, Floyd. 30, 35, 40, 47, and De La Hoya at 54. Yeah, oh, yeah, a lot of them guys, yeah. And had Pacquiao's an anomaly. Pacquiao started at like 106, 112. And blew through everything. Eight-division champion. They're still knocking them out. Yeah, you're not going to see that. even when you look at Armstrong, you look at all those guys, nobody's doing this again. Nobody's going to do that. Yeah. I mean, basically, you'd have to start at, say, you'd have to start at like 140 and go to heavyweight to try to clean out everything.

56:11Shannon Sharpe:And that ain't not happening. I mean, Roy was an anomaly. Because Roy went from 60, 68, 70. 10 years straight. Middleweight, heavyweight. Roy was. if Roy had Roy just stayed there and not stripped the muscle that he put on to go to heavy, because I think that took a lot out of him. That took too much out of him. He probably should have stayed. He probably should have never come back down or just took his time. But Roy won the title, couldn't get nobody else to fight, gave the title up and came back down and he wasn't the same after Tarver beat him that one time. He was never the same. Because he started getting beat by fighters that Roy would have mopped the floor inside of five rounds with him.

56:55Yeah.

56:56Shannon Sharpe:So what's next, Tank? I mean, excuse me. What's next, Lamont? What's next? After this Tank fight, you say you want to fight whoever the big money fight is. Hey, Lomo, Tiafimo, Haney, Garcia, whoever. The champs at 135 right now are Shakur, Keyshawn Davis, and Lomachenko. Okay. That's who we're going to be looking at after, you know what I'm saying, after I be tanked. After I be tanking the rematch. You know, if them guys ain't available, then we gonna go to 30 and defend my 130 pound championship. So listen, out of those three you just named, who would you prefer to fight first? If you can't get all three, if you had a preference.

57:39If I had a preference, I don't really got a preference. I would put a blindfold on and pick whichever one. It don't matter. That's what I'm talking about. You talking to me? Hey, tell them whoever on this ass with me. That's what I want.

57:52Shannon Sharpe:Who want this ass with me? For sure. As a matter of fact, I tell you what. I tell you what. Lomo, you going to get it first. So you going to get it after I get tanked. When I get tanked, I'm going to get you at the first of the year. Hey, Shakur, I'm going to come see you in July. Hey, Keyshawn Davis. Hey, at the end of the year, on 27, I got you ass with me too. You sound good to me. You hear me? You sound real good. Hey, man, I appreciate it. Congratulations. Great fight. Thank you. It wasn't the outcome that you had hoped for because you trained for eight weeks, had a great camp, and you put the time in to win.

58:27Shannon Sharpe:It didn't go his way, but who knows what's going to happen July, August, when the next fight come around. Wish you the best. And guess what? Come back and join us again when the fight happens and we'll see what happens after that, Lamar. Appreciate you. Will do. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. All right, bro. I'm going to see you in D.C. No doubt. Yeah, get my contact. We'll bring you out for sure. All right, bro. Just a body because he needed to talk. I don't want to, you know? Yeah, that's what I want you to do. Yeah, yeah. That's what I want you to do. That's what I want you to hear. Yeah, I got it.

58:59I'll make sure I record it, too. We'll have it on the night count. That's what I need you to do. Record it. All right. All right. All right. All right, man. Appreciate that, Lamai. Have a good one, bro. Thank y 'all, man.

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