Nightcap Best of NFL News Part 1: Jerry Jones vs Micah Parsons Beef? + Kyle Pitts Joins the show!

26 Jul 2025 · 49 min · 23 chapters

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In short

The hosts debate Jerry Jones’ opening-training-camp comments that appeared to criticize Dak Prescott and Micah Parsons, framing it as owner-player transactional relationships and contract leverage. They also interview Falcons Pro Bowl tight end Kyle Pitts about Falcons camp, continuity with QB Michael Penix Jr., and his health/role expectations. Later, they discuss rapper/athlete Gilly the Kid’s explosive response to Cam Newton criticism of Jalen Hurts.

Guests (backgrounds)

  • Kyle Pitts: Falcons Pro Bowl tight end; rookie season topped 1,000 receiving yards; returning from knee injuries and “dings.”
  • No other guests appear; the rest is host commentary (Erin Andrews/ads aside).

Key claims

  • Jerry Jones’ dig signals he values players as services, not as people; Dak and Micah are used as examples.
  • Micah should maximize guaranteed money and treat the contract standoff as leverage.
  • Pitts says Penix’s confidence in him reflects offensive “gelling” and he expects to be a “safety blanket.”

Notable examples

  • Jerry’s “he was hurt six games” jab; comparisons to Dak and Micah.
  • Pitts references learning from multiple QBs and building continuity with Penix.
  • Pitts predicts progression and discusses Falcons-Saints rivalry and Week 1 vs Tampa.

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Jerry Jones' Controversial Comments

0:00 to 0:25

Discussing Jerry Jones' statements about Micah Parsons and Dak Prescott.

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Jerry Jones' Controversial Comments

1:00 to 1:45

Discussing Jerry Jones' statements about Micah Parsons and Dak Prescott.

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Jerry Jones' Controversial Comments

2:30 to 4:28

Discussing Jerry Jones' statements about Micah Parsons and Dak Prescott.

“Ocho, let's take a listen to what Jerry had to say.”

Impact of Owner Comments on Players

4:28 to 6:31

Exploring player reactions to Jerry Jones' words and their implications.

“See, the mistake that people make, oh, Jerry, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.”

Understanding Jerry Jones' Leadership Style

6:31 to 8:34

Analyzing the leadership style and motives of Jerry Jones in the Cowboys organization.

“Now, what about the time he missed some games, but I guarantee you there's some games that he should have missed more because I know Michael has some issues going on, but that ain't none of my business.”

Historical Context of Cowboys' Management

8:34 to 11:14

Reflecting on Jerry Jones' past decisions and their impact on the team.

“He would never, he couldn't play for Peyton Manning because they'd be bigger than he is.”

Jerry Jones and Micah Parsons Dynamics

14:47 to 17:50

Exploration of the relationship between Jerry Jones and Micah Parsons and its implications.

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Contract Negotiation Strategies

17:50 to 21:40

Discussion about negotiation tactics and expectations for player contracts.

“I hate like I said, I know Michael Little.”

Kyle Pitts Joins the Show

21:40 to 24:40

Kyle Pitts discusses his experiences and outlook as a tight end in the NFL.

“Don't you, hey, tell your mom and dad, hey, look here.”

Expectations for the Falcons

24:40 to 28:00

Kyle Pitts shares his expectations and goals for the upcoming Falcons season.

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Expectations for the Falcons This Season

28:00 to 28:48

Discussion on the upcoming NFL season and team expectations.

“Man, what's your expectations on the Falcons this year, on the season, this upcoming season?”

Kyle Pitts on Offense Comfort and Injuries

28:48 to 29:41

Kyle Pitts talks about his comfort level in the offense and dealing with injuries.

“I want to say, with it being your second year in this system, how comfortable are you with the offense where you don't have to think anymore?”

Player Role and Versatility in the Offense

29:41 to 31:09

Exploring Kyle's potential role changes and the impact of his health.

“And you know, you know what, like, my body just is not giving me what I want.”

Staying Focused Amid Rumors

31:09 to 32:28

Kyle discusses how he handles trade rumors and remains focused on his game.

“When you hear the plays, be able to break the huddle and play fast.”

Game Day Experience in Atlanta

32:28 to 33:56

A look at the excitement and atmosphere of game day in Atlanta.

“and the different things we've had to go through these past couple years.”

Understanding Rivalries in the NFL

33:56 to 36:28

Kyle reflects on the importance of rivalries, especially with the Saints.

“You don't even like sitting there with preseason.”

Top Tight Ends and Their Impact

36:28 to 39:29

A discussion on the best tight ends in NFL history and their influence.

“So it's like I don't I don't really value that at all.”

The Evolution of the Tight End Position

39:29 to 42:00

Exploration of how the tight end position has evolved and its future.

“The speed guy, we did a lot of our damage outside and in the slot.”

Kyle Pitts Discusses Health and Performance

42:00 to 44:35

Kyle Pitts shares insights on his health and mindset for the upcoming season.

“Yeah, I think it was 16 because my coach, Tim Brewster, he used to show me all his tape when I was coming out.”

Kyle Pitts and NFL Insights

45:42 to 48:26

Discussion about Kyle Pitts' experiences and the upcoming NFL season.

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Gilly's Response to Cam Newton

48:26 to 56:01

Analysis of the back-and-forth between Gilly and Cam Newton regarding criticism.

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Critiques and Analyst Responsibilities in Football

56:01 to 57:41

Discover the balance analysts must maintain while critiquing players without becoming part of the narrative.

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Critiques and Analyst Responsibilities in Football

58:12 to 58:38

Discover the balance analysts must maintain while critiquing players without becoming part of the narrative.

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2:29Shannon Sharpe:Jerry Jones chose the opening training camp by taking a shot at Michael Parsons. Ocho, let's take a listen to what Jerry had to say. Just because we signed him doesn't mean we're going to have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously. we've signed I remember signing a player for the highest paid at the position in the league and he got knocked out two thirds of the year Dak Prescott so there's a lot of things you can think about when you just as the player does when you're thinking about committing and guaranteeing money he just can't help himself Dallas Cowboys fans Dallas Cowboy players this is your head coach this is your excuse me he's the head coach hey this is the man he is the head coach huh this is the man that runs the show this is the man this lets you know in short term how they really feel about you after all that man has done this is how they really feel about you there's nothing like getting taking a dig or taking a shot at your two star players Your two-star players, oh, well, I made one the highest paid, but he missed it.

3:47Missed the season because of the injury. We play football. It's a contact sport. It's a barbaric sport. Sometimes injuries do happen.

3:54Shannon Sharpe:I remember he made another quarterback the highest paid, and he never took a shot at him, and he stayed injured. But that ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought that up, Ocho.

4:06Shannon Sharpe:This is who you have to go out there and play for. This is who you have to go out there and play for. I want to know, was Tony Romo... That is how your owner thinks about you. Yeah, but we know that. See, the thing is, oh, see, I remember in 2016 when calling him up to, oh, but Jerry loves his players. Jerry loves people that look like you and I that can do something for him. Don't you fool yourself. See, the mistake that people make, oh, Jerry, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Michael Irvin could do things for him. Dez Bryant can do things for him. Emmitt Smith could do things for him. Charles Haley could do things for him.

4:46Shannon Sharpe:Nate Newton, Larry Allen. I could go on and on and on. Stop fooling yourself. Oh, out of the kindness of your heart. Okay. Okay. I have a question. And this is for the chat, for the people in the chat as well. If you play for the Cowboys organization, how would you feel as a player? understanding that's how the man who runs the show and writes your checks felt about you i already know how he felt about me i've done my whole how does that how does that even give you the motivation even want to go out there play for that man outside of the money that's all i'm doing see he what he has upset he's upset at dac because dac has always has been posed him dac has always always been what it was you're the owner i'm the player a lot of players get close to Jerry.

5:37Shannon Sharpe:Dak has never allowed that to happen. Todd France comes in, does the negotiating, hard line, boom, I'm up out of here. Dak goes about his business. Dak ain't trying to go to his house. Dak is not trying to go out and hang out with him. Dak is Dak. Dak does what he does. Dak now has a family. Boom. Strictly business. You see, he taking a shot at Micah because Micah wouldn't let him glaze him. Oh, it's between me and the player. You never did a deal with just the player when the player had representation. But you know what it's going to cost you because you let Max Crosby get a new deal. You let Miles Garrett get a new deal.

6:21Shannon Sharpe:You let T.J. Watt get a new deal. And guess what? Micah Parsons is three to four years younger in all of them. So guess what he's about to do? Pole vault him. so whatever tj white got michael farce is going to get a million to two million dollars more and don't give me that junk i play in texas oh well i do i know it ain't no state income tax and i'm glad for that so that 42 43 million uncle sam's only gonna go get 36 of it no state taxes right and i'm understanding obviously i i wanted to text my michael i wanted to call him but i was like, you know what, I'm not even going to bother him. Just ask how you feel.

7:03How does that make you feel? And I'm just thinking about.

7:05Shannon Sharpe:This is my owner thinks about me. Now, what about the time he missed some games, but I guarantee you there's some games that he should have missed more because I know Michael has some issues going on, but that ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought that up again. Damn, I keep telling people business. You know how many times all of us have played the game of football and went out there anyway? Yeah. had to take toward all pills, had to take toward all shots, just and then Zalacane, Marcane, yeah, cortisone, yes, all that, shooting up in your shoulders and in your knees, not, well, I ain't shooting my knees up, I shot my ankles up, shot my shoulders up, ribs, did all that, Ocho, did all that.

7:47I mean, how do we not understand or just have any self awareness where that's the kind of stuff that you say to yourself, but you never say out loud about the players that are on your team.

7:59Shannon Sharpe:You don't say stuff like that out loud. Had the nerves dead in my ankles so I couldn't feel no pain. That's what nerves do. They allow you to feel pain and say, okay, hey, bro, back off that. I had my nerves in my ankles dead in so I couldn't feel pain so I could go out there and play. And then to have somebody talk like that, man, please, I'd have lost it. I'd have lost it. hey you know what's funny is when you think about the owners it's obviously it's 32 owners i think jerry is the only one with the cojones to come out and say how he really feels no one else would do that's why would you what you thought what you saw today nobody else would do that why would but jerry jerry but see that's what jerry wanted to be about him see jerry don't want no superstar because you know why he wanted a superstar because he he would never take a tom Brady.

8:52Shannon Sharpe:He would never, he couldn't play for Peyton Manning because they'd be bigger than he is. And he don't want that to happen. Right. I've been very fortunate. I played for two owners, Mr. Bowling. I did something for his family today. Yes, sir. But Ocho, it was about us. We were the superstars. He was telling me all the time, Sharper, I ain't catching no passes. Sharper, I ain't making no tackles. Why the hell I need to be up there and talking and carrying on? that's what I pay you guys for. I say, you play us quite well. I don't get why Jerry felt to open up training camp like this. I don't know.

9:37Shannon Sharpe:Everything that comes up doesn't need to come out. Right. But, Micah. What you thinking doesn't need to be said. Every little thought, especially stuff that you know is going to ruffle people's feathers, Catch media headlines. Hell, the only thing that should be catching headlines today is Cowboys opened up training camp and George Pickens looks motherfucking good. Excuse my language. Sorry. George Pickens look good day one. That's it. That should be the conversation. Not what you said about Dak and what you said about Micah. Man, come on. JJ Watt took to Twitter. Well, excuse me. X to defend him.

10:19Shannon Sharpe:Anytime you can publicly take a dig at your star quarterback and your young star pass rusher simultaneously right before the season begins, you got to just take it. Nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while fighting for you. Micah reposted that. No discount for you, Jerry. Wait, hold on. What if he didn't? Excuse me. What if he even goes worse? What if Micah says, you know, that's how you feel about me? Trade me. Aren't you trading? Then what? Then what? And the funny thing, I'm just finding out all about Jerry's ways because I never played for the Cowboys.

11:07And obviously when I was playing, you know, I'm blind to what's going on over there. But Unc, you the one introduced me and told me about the whole thing with Jimmy Johnson. Yeah. So that raised my eyebrows, but I thought, okay, maybe that's just a one-off. Maybe they just had a disagreement, and he's not really like that, but they got into it.

11:29Shannon Sharpe:He thought after three years, he thought after he hired 89, was Jimmy's first year. That's the year he took over. He brought the, I think, Bumbright. I think that's who he brought the Cowboys from. So he took over him and Jimmy in 89 because Troy was their first draft pick. They won the championship in 92, won it again in 93, and again in 95. So in four years, so 89, 90, 91, 90. It's the difference between trying to talk to your friends over the music at a bar and having dinner where you can actually hear each other. Between getting food delivered and cooking something you know she's going to love.

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14:51Shannon Sharpe:So in the fourth year, he thought he knew more football than Jimmy. Now, see, what Jimmy could do, Jimmy was coming from college at the U. So all these guys that's coming out, guess who knew him? Because he tried to recruit him at the U. Yeah. See, Jerry think because somebody handed him a piece of paper that they've done all the work for him. See, Jerry's that guy that does no part of the project, but he gets an A. You ain't do nothing. You just happen to own the team. You did nothing. Jimmy, the scouts, the evaluators, they did all the work. It burned him. It burned him that Jimmy got the credit.

15:33Shannon Sharpe:Everybody gave Jimmy the credit. And he wanted Jimmy to toast him.

15:42That's a tough spot to be in for a player. It has to be. Just to hear that from your owner has to be a tough spot to be in. He's running it. It's supposed to be a football team. It's supposed to be an organization. but you're running it like, I'm not going to say the P word. You're running it like the P word. Ocho, as long as. You saw Django? Yes. You saw Django? Okay. Okay. You see where I'm going, yeah? Okay. You're running it like that. You don't say that about the players that you're paying. You don't complain, oh, I made the quarterback the highest state because you fucking waited to pay him.

16:25Shannon Sharpe:you waited to the last minute you waited to the last minute you got Michael Parsons on the fifth your option so you waited to the last minute and he said it and I used to say this all the time I am not going to give I would give you a discount if you sign me with a couple years left because now you giving me guaranteed money I'm not giving you a discount if you make me get to the punctuation the end no bro I got to get maximum dollar out of you max value but see here's the thing Ocho I know who Jerry is. And as long as they know who Jerry is, they should never have a problem with it.

17:03Shannon Sharpe:He applauds what you do, not who you are. It's transactional to him. You can provide a service, a damn good one. He's going to pat you on the back. But if you think it's anything more than that, you're sadly mistaken. Sadly mistaken. hey man that's that's i i ain't never heard nothing like that now i know a lot of them think like that one thing to think but they actually say it out loud bro listen see a lot of times people want to they'll take what he says about them but i listen to what he says about everything else and how he handles everything else. That told me a lot. Yeah. Oh, your toes are going to be on the line.

17:51Shannon Sharpe:Your hand's going to be over the heart. Oh, oh, oh, doing that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see where we're going with this. Yeah. I see how you think. Yeah. I mean, listen, it's unfortunate. It'll be you. It'll be you. I hate like I said, I know Michael Little. I like him a lot. Great personality. I know he's a representative. but I'm going to be very, very disappointed if y 'all don't rake Jerry ass across the coast. If y 'all don't get at least $42,$43 million, if y 'all don't get$10 million, if y 'all don't get$5 million more than what T.J. Watt got, T.J. got three years,$143 million, he got$108 guaranteed.

18:33Shannon Sharpe:With one year, oh man, y 'all better get your$115 million. Guaranteed, fully guaranteed. As a matter of fact, Jerry, since you've been nasty, I want$100 of it at signing. I want 115 and signing. As soon as I sign the dotted line, I'm not even shaking hands. I'm happy to be a cowboy, but I'm more happy that I get to secure my family. This is generational wealth. My family, my dad, my brother, hey, we good now. That's crazy.

19:11He really said that out loud.

19:16Shannon Sharpe:but that's Ocho don't you like that let me know where I stand with you see so far too many times far too many times I just need to know see that's the difference between the south and the north and the south you know they don't like it they tell you I don't like you bub as opposed to hiding right yeah Tell y 'all what he think. Michael actually reported a training camp today despite the contract standoff. Should Michael trust Jerry Jones enough to report the camp? Yeah. I'm going to report the camp. I'm going to report the camp. I don't want to get no money back. I don't want to. But I just.

20:07Shannon Sharpe:Because they've tried to. That's another thing, Ocho. See? See what they put in there? Now, hey, there's no forgiveness. It doubles. I mean, what did it start at? $15 ,000,$30 ,000? You missed 10, 15 days of practice. That's over a million dollars that the team can't forgive. Yeah. But now that you know, you go on there, you know, you play the game. Hey, I'm playing for the name on the back of my jersey. I'm playing the name on the back of my jersey F that name on the front because that's what you said to me yeah basically basically in not so many words yeah that's crazy so hey go do what you do Micah I hope Micah get 25 sacks and the 40 million you gonna pay that's 50 now 50 mil Micah Hopefully you get a contract extension What's Micah playing What's his 50 option, 20 what

21:26Because he's outside

21:27Shannon Sharpe:He's the edge over here, DN 24 mil Micah All you do Is that you pay your monthly expenses Don't you buy nothing. Don't you buy a car. Don't you, hey, tell your mom and dad, hey, look here. There'll be no expenses going on. I'm going to pay my rent. I'm going to pay X, Y, and Z. I'm just going to pay monthly expenses. I'm going to sit tight. Because if this, you know what, try to franchise me, I'm not coming. I'm not signing no franchise tag. I'm not signing a franchise tag. not gonna do it and you think you think you would play with him yeah you do realize here's the thing Ocho you didn't do it to me now so you've made me run the gauntlet two years in a row well oh no bro I got to hit you over the head with a heavy hammer yes absolutely if I'm Michael yes the price goes the price goes up 10 % every year that you don't get this done.

22:33Shannon Sharpe:So right now it's$42 million. You don't pay me this year? Guess what? It's a 10 % increase. $46 million. And plus another 10 % on the guaranteed money.

22:47I don't... Does he purposely... What is the method? You did it with CeeDee Lamb. You did it with Dak. You did it with D.K. Elliott. What's the

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22:56Shannon Sharpe:purpose of the last minute? He's thinking they're going to give him a discount. I'm not giving you a discount when you making me run to the last year of the contract. Oh, Joe, I'm not. See, he thought that would give him a discount like Wentz and golf gave their team discounts. But those teams, they were first and second overall pick. They got huge. Their total contract was guaranteed. They got four. They got thirty five million. They got thirty two million fully guaranteed. Right. I don't know what that was a fourth round pick. So I don't really know what those numbers are. then three years into the deal they give a new contract that is what they did with that so Ocho I've already gotten 32, 33 billion dollars guaranteed plus you come to me early okay I'll give you a little discount I'll help the salary cap right understandable I'm not giving you a discount when I'm that low of a draft pick my first contract now first one I'm trying to split your dome oh yes absolutely now I might give you one the second one but that's my choosing no you say oh you know you tell me uh that's you know football business and let football people do football things well I'm gonna let y 'all handle that salary cap so my job is not to try to help y 'all manage y 'all salary cap I'm trying to extract because I care just about as much as winning as you do Jerry Jones has shown you over the last 30 years he doesn't care about winning So guess what?

24:29Shannon Sharpe:Me either. You care about making money? So do I. What's up, bud? What's up, bud? Pro Bowl tight end, Kyle Pitts. Kyle, how you doing, bro? I'm doing good. How you doing? It's Ocho and Joe, ISO Joe, joining us tonight, man. Okay. Appreciate y 'all having me on here. How y 'all doing? We're doing amazing. Oh, definitely. I'm going to get right into it. Michael Penix Jr. Unprompted. Not from the reporters. not by anybody encouraging. The first thing out of his mouth, hey, man, y 'all saw KP? There's going to be a lot more of that today. What happened today for people that weren't at camp that didn't get an opportunity to see, what has Michael Penish Jr.

25:15Shannon Sharpe:so excited that he started off his press conference mentioning Kyle Pitts? Obviously, it's day one. It's first day of camp. You know, the emotions is high. We had a pretty good day. as an offense, just gelling and moving the ball down the field. And you know as a tight end, it's always great to be a safety blanket for these quarterbacks and be somebody he relies on. So for him to have that confidence in me is amazing. Go ahead, Ocho. No, I was going to say, I hope Zach Robinson, right, that is the offensive coordinator, yes? Yes, sir. Yeah, listen, I'm hoping Zach Robinson can get back to putting you, well, obviously, I don't think he was there your rookie year, but get you back to doing what you do best.

25:59Understanding what you did in Florida that you can still do in the NFL. There are so many mismatches that you can create based on what you can do and your unique skill set. When we talk about the tight ends in the NFL, top five, you are supposed to be in that conversation based on what you can do. After a rookie season, you had 1 ,000 yards. Obviously, due to injury, there have been some minor setbacks, but this is a year for you to get back to what you're known for, and that being a stellar playmaker regardless of what's around you, regards to who's in front of you. And I'm hoping brother Robinson does everything he can to put you back in position to make the plays that I know you can make, because not only is it going to help you and build your confidence, but it's going to make brother Michael Penning Jr.

26:38Also build his confidence and be that quarterback. Number one that the Falcons have been in search of since Matt Ryan's been gone. Sure. Sure.

26:48Shannon Sharpe:When I, how difficult is it? You have the outstanding rookie year. As Ocho mentioned over a thousand yards. there hadn't been very many tight ends to come in as a rookie and get a thousand yards now you get that so the expectations are through the roof because you know you're a draft pick and you come out like gangbusters and then injuries then quarterback turnover how difficult is it to take stay positive when your quarterback there's a quarterback carousel and the injuries start them out i mean obviously everybody has a different path and i think mine is pretty unique um just obviously it being my fifth year and it being my fifth quarterback but I've learned something from everyone from Matt to Marcus to Desmond to Taylor um from Kirk I mean everybody brings something special to the table and just to learn a lot and now this be my first year of having someone from the previous year as a quarterback and you know growing the continuity over the summer working out together getting those routes in it's amazing to see it and you know just to grow that relationship with him just to, you know, work in his time during camp on the way to game one.

27:55Shannon Sharpe:KP, what's up, Rush? Go ahead, Joe. This is Joe, man. What's up, big dog? How you doing? Man, chilling, chilling, chilling. Man, what's your expectations on the Falcons this year, on the season, this upcoming season? First, I won't go as far as expectations because we're taking it in. We're about progression. You know, just first, a healthy camp. Right. Get out of this healthy and then, you know, getting ready for week one and just trying to stack as many wins as we can because, obviously, Atlanta's a hard fan base. It's a city that is very passionate about their sports. Yeah, it's a football town.

28:28For sure. And just to be able to – we want to get back to, you know, having Mercedes been rocking, which we have last year, but, you know, we have some different things, ups and bumps in the road. But it's a year that, you know, we're coming together and we all bought in. It's a second-year system. So now, you know, we've got the opportunity to take it to the next step. Right.

28:46Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Hey. Go ahead, Ocho. I want to say, with it being your second year in this system, how comfortable are you with the offense where you don't have to think anymore? You can hear the play call, you go out there, and you can just line up. Based on what that makes you see in front of me, you can just go without having to think. Yeah, very confident. And like I say, it's year two. We've been working in the summer just mentally and physically. So it's just, you know, so now we're here in camp. We're not taking a step back. We just – now we're just going against the defense, and there will be paths on next week.

29:15and going into joint practice and into the preseason. So things like that is big for us.

29:23Shannon Sharpe:Kyle, having played the position that you played, and I don't know if people understand this, but when you're injured, you are a move tight end. Line you up outside the numbers. They'll put you in motion. They'll put you in the slot. You'll line up top. They'll put you in the backfield. But when you're injured, it's hard. Man, I just want to get somewhere and just go. All this bad, because I can't do it. And you know, you know what, like, my body just is not giving me what I want. But because the fans have seen what you're capable of, they don't understand that body. The mind is willing, but the body just ain't able right now.

30:02Yeah, I mean, obviously, everyone goes through injuries. Some people don't. But in my specific case, you know, having the knee and just different little small dings, is it's just a testament of what's going to happen this year and I'm excited for what's going to happen and how you know we're growing as an offense and how we're going to take that next step so it's so we got some games usually we're going to start week one with Tampa divisional game and you know go out there and try and get the first win and just keep building them and you know hopefully win our division and then you know taking it step by step from there you know I have I have one question how much I don't want to call it I don't want to say power but most of the time it's called power to me.

30:40You know, when a player can go to an officer coordinator, can go to a head coach and ask to do more. Are you healthy enough or is your body back in a state where you can ask Coach Robinson, listen, I need you to put me in different positions to be able to make plays because if you put me out here at receiver, it's a mismatch. You know, if you put me in motion, you know, it's a mismatch. Is your body, is the knee at a point now where you can do a multitude of things offensively to open up the plate and also for you? 100%. and just mentally being able to play faster. Because that's a big thing. When you hear the plays, be able to break the huddle and play fast.

31:13So definitely, you know, being the best asset to this offense is the goal. Because there's a bunch of playmakers on this offense. You know, Drake, Bijan, Mooney, Ray Ray. I mean, everybody can, you know, we can spread everybody out. And then, you know, you go nickel and then we're running it. We got, you know, Tyler. So we got the one-two punches and just being able to definitely take that load for sure.

31:33Shannon Sharpe:I like it. did you hear because of the injury because of some lack of production there was rumor swirling possibly Kyle Pitts might be on the move how did you stay in the moment how did you like I'm here right now if and when that were to arise that I'm somewhere else I'll deal with that then but how did you stay present in the moment because people say oh I don't think it's hard bro you talking about me you know hey unless there's another cow pits i don't know about but in the meantime you're talking about cow me i'm cow pits and i hear all of this going on how are you able to stay focused stay present and says you know what if it happens it happens but in the meantime i'm here i mean i'm i'm very much deep in my face so i know what god is playing for me but most important is like you know those people have a job and fans are fans for a reason they can't do what we do so they know they They don't really know me.

32:27You know, I know the player I am, and I know the bumps and the bruises and the different things we've had to go through these past couple years. But it's, you know, everybody has their time, and, you know, I feel like my moment's coming. Oh, yeah.

32:40Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Kerry, y 'all open up. Go ahead, Joe. Y 'all open up here in Atlanta against Tampa? Yes, sir. Oh, man. I'm going to have to come check. Hey, Joe, let me go to the game with you, Joe. Not bad. Say less. Say less. All right, what's up? What you trying to do? Joe. All right, all right, all right. You can't come to the game with us? That's crazy. He's busy, he's busy. He can't commit to that this early. He can't commit to that this early. Hey, Kyle, I be there, man. Don't worry about it. Hey, Joe, I be there. Week one, week one. We in Atlanta, man. Y 'all heard it. Y 'all heard it. I'll make sure y 'all good.

33:16Y 'all in the house. Y 'all good. Everything set up.

33:19Shannon Sharpe:Come on. Man, I heard that thing be rocking, OK, P. I ain't going to lie to you now, P. I heard it be rocking. The food be banging. I mean, and they got this, you get, what is it, a hot dog. I don't eat no glizzes, though. I got to come up with something else. But you get a pretzel, a big large soda, fries, and all the food is like, except alcohol is like all you can eat. Like a certain price. We got one of the best owners in the business, Mr. Blank. Oh, yeah, Mr. Blank. Yes, yes, absolutely. He's a great man. He's an excellent man. He's affordable for everybody, and, you know, it's a great time.

33:48It's only one way to, you know, taste for yourself. You got to come see it, you know. Yeah. Yeah. We got to get to it. We had to get them to the bed. We got it.

33:57Shannon Sharpe:Hey, let me ask you this, though. Does preseason count? Can I come to a preseason game? Nah, nah. Nah. You don't even like sitting there with preseason. Hey, Kyle, I got a question, right? Do you understand the seriousness, which I've just learned? And this is long after I'm done playing. And you understand the seriousness between the Falcons and the Saints rivalry? At first, I didn't really, if I'm being honest. You didn't see me do. At first, I did, and I didn't really understand the hatred. It's not like a dislike. It's a hatred. Yeah. And it's like, that's kind of like Georgia versus Florida.

34:37You know, that game, it don't matter if you dinged up, you find a way to get on that field. You know, that's a robbery game. It's going to be down to the last, you know. Thanks to the great team, and I feel like, you know, each year it's a fight. to be able to go down. And Caesars Dome is loud, too, especially when we come into town. So it's like vice versa when they come up here, and their fan base travels heavy, and it's a very competitive game.

35:09Shannon Sharpe:Kyle, let me ask you this. When you look at it, where you started, and now you see all these guys, they got the McBride's that come in, and they got the Hawkinsons, and they got the Laportas and they got all these guys and don't seemingly – whoa, whoa, whoa. What happened to – what happened to – y 'all ain't talking about me no more. Y 'all know I've been that boy. I've been him. I've just been Nick Duck. So y 'all just going to look over me? That's okay. Look, that's all right. That's all right. You know, it's not too many people who have perfect careers, you know. So, you know, when I get back on the map, other things are doing – I got to do what I need to do first though.

35:46There it is. Right.

35:47Shannon Sharpe:You said today that you're not paying attention to any outside noise. I don't read that rat poison. I don't get on Twitter, and I don't listen to the bots who can't come out here in 90-degree weather and come and do what I do. Expand on the rat poison, because that was Coach Saban's one of his favorite sayings. That rat poison, you get a little praise or you get some negativity, and it festers. It'll kill you. Yeah, even though I didn't go to Alabama, that was something that just watching him and I had a couple buddies go to Alabama, that was something that they would say that he's big on. So I never really, like I said, I don't read it because they can't come out there in the heat of the moment and hear a play call and game on the line.

36:25People screaming. You can't hear the snap count and go out there and perform. So it's like I don't I don't really value that at all. And you guys know those athletes. They're there on the sidelines for a reason. They just, you know, they're invested because they bet now. You know, we know what it is to go out there, run across the middle fourth quarter, catch the ball, move the stick. Right.

36:42Shannon Sharpe:Right. The reports. Now, I don't know if this is true, but this is what's being reported, that you're being used. They see you more with the receiver group than with the tight end group.

36:59Shannon Sharpe:That might be reported. I don't know. I ain't there. Like you said, I can't do what you do, Pierce, no more. I can't come out there 90 degrees. Hey, not even with an umbrella and some Gatorade. I can't be out there in that heat. Me and Heat don't get along anymore. Not no more. Not no more. but you had your day when it was your day. You had your two-a-days. We won't have those no more. We won't have those no more. But, yeah, it's going to be – it's a plan. Follow behind Coach Morrison, you know, what Raheem and, you know, Coach Z-Rob has definitely put together for me for this camp and just entering this year.

37:34It's big on just, you know, like I said, buying in and, you know, trusting what they have. And, you know, it's – I would say hybrid. Won't say, you know, a specific position. Definitely want to be high for this. The more you can do it, the better you are. I love it. I love it. Listen, I'm predicting. I can do this. You ain't got to say nothing. I'm predicting 1 ,300. I'm telling you what it's going to look like this year. So what's the prize? We'll talk about it after we're in a minute. Yeah, yeah.

38:08Shannon Sharpe:Just call me. I got you. Hey, Piers, I'm going to put you on the spot. I'm going to put you on the spot. Give me your top five tight ends of all time. You studied position. You played the position. And keep it a stack. Keep it a stack. If I ain't in the top five, I'm cool with that. I'm cool. Like you said, I'd have had my time. There was a time I was in the top five, if I'm not now, but I was. Well, 100%. No, I never get into specific numbers because, you know, everybody be like, oh, you're missing this person. It's really just who you kind of model your game after. So, like, my five in no specific order would be definitely you, Tony G, Mike Dick, who was the start.

38:47Before, I would say Jason Winton is someone who I feel like in high school when I really started to learn about the tight end position. And, you know, he wasn't maybe, like, the fastest, but he knew how to beat you mentally. So, because I learned that from a guy named Lee Smith, who, you know, he may be older, but they'll beat you to the spot. But, yeah, Tony G, you, Mike Ditka, Jason, and I'm going to have to go give Travis his followers. He's the best doing it right now. He's the best doing it. Him and George, like one A1B right now. They definitely setting the precedent for how to play the position and how to win at that position.

39:26So I definitely love watching them on film.

39:28Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, watching you play, you kind of remind me of myself. The speed guy, we did a lot of our damage outside and in the slot. I ain't really trying to bang like that, but I had to block a little bit more than you had to block. But I think Gates, you move – Gates wasn't that fast. But, man, Gates knew how to get open and catch touchdowns. I'm like, how does mofo get any touchdowns like this? That's what I couldn't understand. He's smart, and that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, me putting Witten in my top five, I really had Gatesy in my top five because that's who really – You know, him in L.A.

40:00when he's playing with, you know, Dane Thompson. So that was something I really was watching when I was getting into it, watching, you know, different tight ends.

40:07Shannon Sharpe:I was like, man, how they score all these touchdowns? How? This man got 117, 118 touchdowns for a tight end. That's unheard of. Y 'all going to have to get on the ball. Because that break is going to be there a long time if somebody don't get on the ball, Pierce. I'm sorry. You don't think nobody going to get that up the way they throwing that ball now? tight ends don't score like that man that joke is staying with double digit tight ends 17 is an anomaly I feel like yes you had you some games in the red zone where you was hot you had you some string of games where you 10 plus for sure but here's the thing think about he had LT I mean he went LT went 3 years LT had 69 touchdowns in 3 years so they get yes and so for a tight end there have only been two tight ends that have over 100 TDs in a career.

41:01Shannon Sharpe:That's a gonzo and Gates. So in 100-plus-year history, 105, 106-year history, there are only two tight ends to put up those kind of numbers. And Les Harkinson and Laporte and McBride and Kittle, you get on the ball, man, it's hard to score down there Because like you said, he could score. I was a guy that get yards. I lead the game with 150, 160 yards with no touchdowns. Man, that joke will have like 88 yards and three touchdowns. Right. Right. Sometimes it go that way. Yeah, you got to think. You got to remember Antonio Gay's skill set too now. They get down to that goal line. They get him out there wide.

41:46Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. That basketball background coming to play. Man, listen, his lateral movement, he moved in short areas. his releases is like a damn receiver. Yep. What was his career length? How long did he play, y 'all? I think he played 16. I think he got 16 or 17, Pits. I think he got 16. Yeah, I think it was 16 because my coach, Tim Brewster, he used to show me all his tape when I was coming out. Yeah. I think Brewster was in Denver, too. Mm-hmm. Yep. Okay. Yeah. 100%. Was Wade Harmon there when you got there? Who was your position coach when you first got there? His name was Justin Peel. Okay. Justin Peel?

42:30Mm-hmm.

42:31Shannon Sharpe:That name sound familiar. I think he played. Yeah, he played here in Atlanta. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I thought that name sound familiar. You're 100 % healthy. You're raring to go. Ocho tried to put some numbers on you. What is health the precursor? Because I know you look. I don't want to put you on the spot and say, okay, give us a stat total where you say 100 and 1 ,200 yards and this. Health is the precursor, and then everything else will fall into place after that. Is that how you're approaching it? Not at all. You know, once I got back to, you know, last year and this offseason feeling great, that's the last thing in my mind.

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46:27Yeah, yeah, Uncle, you heard that. Rise up. Yeah, yeah.

46:34Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it's an experience in that thing, man. You got to go check them Falcons out, baby. Yeah, so week one, we there in Tampa and then we in Atlanta. Do you understand how hard it is, Joe, like when you're trying to evaluate like what we do, we're going to have to talk about the game. So how are we going to talk about the game that we don't watch on television if we had the Falcons game? You got a phone, Unc. Use the phone. You got Twitter? NFL Reson. You can put all the games on your phone, Unc. See, that's the thing, though, see? So how you watching the Falcons game if you looking at your phone?

47:05Shannon Sharpe:We can just look at the tidbits. Look at the tidbits. You know what I'm saying, Josie? I see where I'm coming from. I see where he coming from. Nah, nah. He's just trying to get out of going to the game with us. What he doing? He going to sneak into one of these games. One of these games. Yeah, I'm going to have to sneak it up. Maybe a primetime game. I'm going to have to call Mr. Blank. I'm going to have to go through the private tunnel, the secret tunnel. Oh, yeah. We'll make it work. We'll make it work. I'm pretty sure he had accommodation. Kyle, man, thanks for joining us, man. We appreciate it.

47:35Shannon Sharpe:Stay healthy. This is the year you got to stay healthy because you know what this is. This is your fifth year. You know what the fifth year means. What comes after the fifth year? They paying. Kittle got$19 million. Hello. Hey, you could be the first$20 million guy. Shit, make it$22. Hello. I like that. I like that. Hey, I'm just saying. Man, the first guy, hey, the first with a two in front of it for a tight end, more than I made in my whole career. Damn. I might have to go back out there, Joe. Hey, keep your head down. Keep working, baby. Chopping wood. Let's go. Yes, sir. Brick by brick, baby.

48:11Shannon Sharpe:And congratulations, man. Continue success. Stay healthy, man, and come back and join us. After that first 200-yard game, come back and join us and talk to us. Tell us about it. I got you. I'm going to hold you to that. All right, bet. All right. Kyle Pitts. Appreciate it, y 'all. Guys, just when you thought Cam and RC Beef was dead, Gilly the Kid, hold my beer. Let's take a listen to what Gilly had to say in response to Cam, criticism of Jalen Hurts. It's a good thing. Cam Newton. I seen you came at me because I said Jalen Hurts did what you couldn't do. That was win the Super Bowl. So you want to get all in your feelings.

48:52Shannon Sharpe:Man, shut your tight jean-wearing ass up, man. You had on a jersey with a bow tie, you corny ass. Get out of here, n****. You will never be able to f*** with Jalen Hurd, you super goofy, corny ass. Get out of here, n****. You, what you do? You won MVP, won the Super Bowl, won the Super Bowl MVP. And you hating on him because he did what you couldn't do, n****. Win the Super Bowl. anything the two of them so when you hating on him just know you wasn't better than him you talking about can you name one of my albums you ain't got to be able to name one of my albums what's wrong with you you in my space you ain't bigger than me in this space you a low ass boy in this space you low ass boy I could come sign you damn damn Hey.

49:54Shannon Sharpe:Anybody ever met Gilly besides me? Anybody ever met Gilly besides me? I met him. I know Gilly. We done played basketball together. He got that energy all the time. Yeah. He took that person. Let me ask you, what y 'all think about this, Ocho? What y 'all think about Gilly? Cam, we saw RC's response to Cam. We saw Gilly's response to Cam. Yeah. And we've already, Joe, you weren't here. What's your response? I'm going to start with you first, Joe. Joe, what's your take on Gilly's response to Cam? I just thought it was too personal of a shot. Because we can talk trash back and forth. You know, it could be a good sparring session, but I just think when it gets personal, bro, I think it kind of draws a line.

50:45Shannon Sharpe:You know what I mean? Yeah. So I don't know if he took it personal when Cam said something about him dropping an album. And I think it just kind of, no holds and cards. He just went berserk after that. Yeah. What you think, Ocho? Listen, you got to understand, Coach, you already know what time it is. You know? The eye meets the eye. You say the wrong thing, I'm going to say the wrong thing. You say the right thing, I'm going to say the right thing. Respect is earned. It's not given. Therefore, when you take shots, you have to be, you expect the other individual. So I'm coming back. something is coming back.

51:18That's the space that we live in. Cam, he's not going to back down. Gilly, we've known Gilly for a very long time. What he does, he's not going to back down. If you say something, he's going to say something back. If you say something to Cam, he's going to say something back. Ryan, I'm sure probably at some point, he's going to respond. I'm assuming so, or maybe not, because I'm assuming Ryan and Cam will probably have to see each other at some point on ESPN. But still, that's just one topic. It won't cause any feud in the work environment. Other than that, listen, it's entertainment at the end of the day.

51:49Nothing will probably happen outside of those mics and in that space of podcasting. So I think, listen, it's a good jabbing war. It's a good jabbing war. May the best man win in that situation.

52:03Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I agree with both of you guys. I hate when it gets personal. You know, I hate when Cam, you know, Cam was a quarterback. Obviously, his influence is going to be different than any other player on the field. regardless where round was drafted, regardless of how many Pro Bowls, there's not any quarterback that's worth anything is going to have more value basically than anybody else. Cam was an MVP. Cam was a multiple-time Pro Bowl player. Yeah, Cam won the Heisman. Cam, his accolades speak for themselves. We don't need to go off the list of them. And for me, if Cam had just stuck like, look, this is what I'm saying.

52:43Shannon Sharpe:it's hard for me to evaluate Jalen Hurts when he has so much talent around. I'm not saying that he's not talented, but it's easier for me to evaluate someone when they don't have as much talent, when they don't just have to turn around and hand the ball off and have Saquon hit his head on the goalpost from 80. Or he has these two receivers, that's Pro Bowl receivers. Or an offensive line that's as good as that's ever been assembled. Right. Keep Ryan's accolades out of it. Ryan, keep Cam, whether he did or did not, jump on that football. Okay, we know that. We know Cam didn't jump on the football.

53:31Shannon Sharpe:And he said it. If he could go back and do anything different in his playing career, that's the one thing that he would have done. so if we want to evaluate a a player evaluate the player says i this this is why this is why everybody's not going to like your opinion right because if you try you can try to appease everybody ocho yeah and the one person that's going to be very disappointed and upset is you because when you try to please everybody the only person that's hurting and disappointed is you yeah you can't you can't please everybody you can't nor should you attempt to no hell no gilly i look gilly my guy i i love gilly i love walla wallow you know i talked to them brothers and they good people yeah really are um gilly take things like to the eagles like and i've been i've been in a very similar situation one time before and uh it's probably one of the times that i regret something that you know you somebody says something about a team or a player that you like and then you take it personal you take personal shots at them and then you know you have to realize okay that man's entitled to his opinion that's his opinion just because you feel passionate about this as a pro and he feels passionate about this as a negative it doesn't make you more right than him it doesn't make him more right than you that's his opinion right I agree with you, Joe.

55:07Shannon Sharpe:I think when Cam like, well, hey, bro, I can't name not one of your albums. I think that's why all gloves went out for Gilly. Gilly like, well, bro, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Right, right. That's why he said, you not bigger than me in this. Right, right. And that's when it started to get real personal. You could tell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

55:31Shannon Sharpe:I hate that. But we know it's going to be It's going to be some back and forth, man. Jalen Hurts is a very polarizing figure because it's not like, you know, every other year. I mean, think about it. We had Doug Williams. Yeah. And then we had a big low. So we got 87, and then we had to go all the way to 2012 before we got another. So we had to go almost three decades before we got another black to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. As a quarterback. and then we got Mahomes and now we got Jalen Hurts so it's not like it's just littered and so now it's like you know and I think maybe RC and maybe Gilly feel like man they being unfairly criticized cause excuse me when Tom won his first Super Bowl they applauded him and he threw for a buck 42 yeah but we're trying to find ways but that's i mean when you're an analyst when you know your job is to critique and analyze the only thing i will say about this and i and i this is what i always never went to journalism school i didn't go to syracuse i didn't go to missouri i didn't go to any one of these fancy journalism school but this is what i do know never become part of the story you see now cam ryan are part of the jalen hurtz story this should be about jalen hurts but they've become a part of the story.

57:07Shannon Sharpe:You stay away from the story. You talk about it. You critique. You analyze, but you don't become a part of it. But the critiquing and the analyzation is why they're part of the Jalen Hurst story. No, you can do that. But see, now we're not talking about them. We're talking about what Cam and R.C. going back and forth. Cam and Gilly the Kid going back and forth. Okay. They're going to squash that. That ain't that ain't nothing. That's all. That's all talk. They're going to squash it. It's not going anywhere outside of the space in which we're doing right now. And that's the whole lesson. Quiet confidence.

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From the publisher

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson dive into the biggest NFL headlines of the week! Unc and Ocho react to EVERYONE HATING on HURTS. The duo also breakdown the ongoing beef between Jerry Jones and extending his best players and Kyle Pitts joins the show to discuss: Falcons expectations, relationship with Michael Penix Jr. and much more!

 

:15 - Jerry Jones taking shots at Micah Parsons?
19:18 - Falcons TE Kyle Pitts Joins the show

40:11 - Gillie and Cam Newton BEEFIN' IT

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