Nightcap Best of NFL News Part 2: Cowboys teammates FIGHTING?! + Raiders void Christian Wilkins guaranteed money

26 Jul 2025 · 52 min · 22 chapters

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“Nightcap Best of NFL News Part 2” covers Raiders DT Christian Wilkins being released after the team voided his remaining guaranteed money, plus broader NFL talk including Cowboys training-camp drama, contract/guarantee strategy, and quotes from Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Ramsey, and CeeDee Lamb/George Pickens.

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No specific episode guests are named in the transcript for this segment; the hosts are Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson. (Later in the show they thank Clarissa Shields and Raekwon, but they are not discussed as guests within the main NFL news portion.)

Key claims

  1. Raiders voided about $35.2M guaranteed money tied to Wilkins’ foot rehab, citing disagreement over recovery and return-to-play plan.
  2. NFLPA filed a grievance within 50 days; legal fight expected.
  3. Teams treat guaranteed money like an “investment” and can claw it back if contract conditions aren’t met.

Notable examples

  • Cowboys reportedly took $500K from Trayvon Diggs for rehab/training compliance issues.
  • Michael Thomas surgery timeline used as a comparison.
  • Video claims: Wilkins “dancing” in the facility; reports he refused surgery recommended by the team.

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Raiders' Controversial Decision on Christian Wilkins

0:00 to 0:25

Discuss the Raiders' decision to void Wilkins' guaranteed money.

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Raiders' Controversial Decision on Christian Wilkins

0:53 to 1:45

Discuss the Raiders' decision to void Wilkins' guaranteed money.

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Raiders' Controversial Decision on Christian Wilkins

2:29 to 3:16

Discuss the Raiders' decision to void Wilkins' guaranteed money.

“Raiders are releasing DT Kristen Wilkins with the designation of terminated vested veteran.”

Contract Language and Player Accountability

3:16 to 5:08

Explore the implications of contract clauses and player rehab accountability.

“This transaction is necessary for the entire organization to move forward and prepare for a new season.”

Dame's Trade and Team Relations

5:08 to 10:34

Analyze the challenges surrounding Dame's trade and team dynamics.

“I see their side as, okay, you're hurt, you're injured.”

Injuries and Team Support

10:34 to 11:28

Examine the impact of player injuries on team relationships.

“And it's a situation where I'm sure Giannis is frustrated because Giannis said, like, these superstars, they keep their foot on these teams' neck because I want to compete for a championship every single year.”

Wilkins' Dance Video and Team Morale

11:28 to 14:50

Discuss the implications of Wilkins' dance video on team morale.

“I mean, it almost broke out of the skin.”

NFL Injury Controversies and Guarantees

15:29 to 28:00

Explore the implications of player injuries, guarantees, and contract disputes in the NFL.

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Injury Guarantees and Offseason Decisions

28:00 to 30:00

Discussing the implications of injury guarantees and the importance of timely surgeries for NFL players.

“I mean, he might, look, without, I mean, a guarantee is a guarantee.”

Jalen Hurts' Winning Mentality

30:00 to 32:20

Jalen Hurts emphasizes the focus on winning over personal stats after his Super Bowl experience.

“Jalen Hurst was asked if he will open up his play style more now that he's won a Super Bowl.”
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The Value of a Super Bowl Ring

32:20 to 34:30

Exploring the significance of Super Bowl rings and the mindset of players moving forward after a season.

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The Value of a Super Bowl Ring

37:08 to 37:43

Exploring the significance of Super Bowl rings and the mindset of players moving forward after a season.

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The Value of a Super Bowl Ring

37:46 to 38:21

Exploring the significance of Super Bowl rings and the mindset of players moving forward after a season.

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Community and Personal Connections

38:21 to 42:00

A heartwarming story about Shiloh giving back to fans while reflecting on personal milestones.

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Lamar Jackson's Super Bowl Mindset

42:00 to 44:39

Explore Lamar Jackson's approach to the Super Bowl and the pressures of expectations.

“He said, to be honest, I really try not thinking that far because every time we have those discussions, we get to the playoffs, but we don't punch in.”

Preseason Preparation and Player Health

44:40 to 48:29

Discuss the importance of preseason practices and managing player health.

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Cowboys Players and Future Expectations

48:30 to 50:46

Analyze the potential of Cowboys players like CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens this season.

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Atlanta Rappers Mount Rushmore

50:47 to 52:49

Debate the top Atlanta rappers and their influence on the genre.

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Hall of Fame and Player Recognition

52:50 to 56:00

Celebrate player achievements and discuss the Hall of Fame inductions.

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Discussing NFL Players and Their Impact

56:00 to 57:21

The hosts discuss various NFL players and their performances during games.

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Discussing NFL Players and Their Impact

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The hosts discuss various NFL players and their performances during games.

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1:58Shannon Sharpe:Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts. Why did I search the internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores in various stages of ooze. I can clear my search history, but I can never unsee that. Don't go down the rabbit hole. Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast. Health care just got less painful. Ocho, you're not going to believe this one. What, what, what? Raiders are releasing DT Kristen Wilkins with the designation of terminated vested veteran. The Raiders reportedly voided the remaining$35.2 million guaranteed money left on Wilkins' contract last month due to how he treated the rehab from the foot injury he suffered last season.

2:54Shannon Sharpe:Raiders released a statement, and it reads as such, We have decided that it is in the best interest of the organization to move on from Christian Wilkins, and he has been informed of his relief from the team. This franchise has a commitment to excellence on and off the field with no clear path or plan for the future return to play from Christian. This transaction is necessary for the entire organization to move forward and prepare for a new season. Well, you know, that lets me know there's language in the contract somewhere because they just said they voided keyword guaranteed. the fact that they can get void guaranteed money means there's language in the contract somewhere that says if you do not do x y and z then legally we can take your money back to you even though it's said guaranteed check this out the nflpa has 50 days to file a grievance on christian wilkins behalf after the raiders aborted 35.25 million worth of guaranteed money in his contract on june fourth eight million for this year 27.25 for the next year the grievance was filed this morning a legal battle awaits yeah they were tired of him yeah what do you do wrong though huh the same thing i guess he i guess he wasn't there rehabbing or they said he wasn't taking the rehab hold on let me go back and see what they said uh he's been in follow it said uh last month due to how he treated the rehab from the foot injury he suffered remember the cowboys took 500 000 from trayvon diggs why because of how he treated the rehab they said he wasn't there enough they didn't feel he was taking it serious enough remember ocho also the milwaukee bucks what did dame want to do he wanted to train in portland to be close to his family.

4:53Shannon Sharpe:Okay. They didn't want a job with that, and they didn't want to get into it. They said the best thing for us to do is to just move forward. Right. Now, it seems like the Raiders are trying to extract, get that, hey, we don't want to pay that. We ain't trying to pay$35 million. I see what the teams are doing, and I understand. I see their side as, okay, you're hurt, you're injured. We want to be able to track how far along you are. We want to see where you are. To make sure. Make sure. Listen, they rehabbing no matter what. They're going to do that because they want to play football, but they just want to be on top of how it's going, who's doing it, what's being done to make sure that you're doing everything you can to get yourself back on the field in a timely manner.

5:34That's the only reason they're doing that. That's the only reason Trayvon Diggs was fine because we can't see it. We don't know exactly what you're doing. You can say you're doing it, which we know you are, but it's not to our satisfaction because it ain't coming from us.

5:47Shannon Sharpe:I don't know how y 'all do it, but you know this. okay I invest some money so I got stock in this this and this you know what them people do Ocho they say okay here's your tracker you can track it also if you just tracking it and I don't track it right you could tell me anything but I can see hold on why you buy some more of that who told you to sell that right if there if you're not there because you got to realize it These guys are investments to these teams, Ocho. Like, think about it. What was his game? So guaranteed, he got like 80-something million guaranteed, Ocho? Yes, sir. You don't think these people are going to watch out for their investment to make sure they're trying to get a return on their money?

6:33Shannon Sharpe:That's the whole purpose of an investment, is that I'm trying to get a return on that investment. Bro, look, like I said, I don't really know. I mean look this is what the Raiders are saying I'm sure if you were to talk to Christian Wilkins and his representative they'll tell you something different right but I do understand but these teams these teams for I remember in the Super Bowl I tore my MCL and it was a grade two grade three string Ocho I stayed once we got back I stayed there for like five weeks after the season you don't think I wanted to go home Yeah. But I stayed there, got that thing like 80%, 90%.

7:19Shannon Sharpe:Greek says, hey, the athletic trainer, Steve Antonopoulos, we call him Greek. He's a sharper, you can go home, but I'm going to need to see you in a month to make sure this thing is fully healthy. No problem. Right. No problem. And I damn sure, boy, look here. Y 'all guarantee me how much? 84 million? I'm staying there with y 'all. I'm going to get that thing 1 ,000 % on their dime. Oh, absolutely. Hey, you know how them young bulls are. I'll get all that. I'll get all that money. When the season over, them boys trying to get up out of there. Man. They trying to get up out of there. I think in Dame's case, though, with him knowing he going to miss the whole season, Uncle Ocho.

7:57Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Yeah. I think, you know, probably just put him in a better head space being around his family, which he absolutely understood. I don't feel like he's a guy who's going to shortchange you, but, you know, I get it. Maybe they want to already get rid of him anyway because of him. They did. You know what I mean? Because you know what, Joe? Dame never wanted to be there in the first place. Dame wanted to – see, first of all, Dame let the fans and this ring culture force him out of Portland. He never wanted to leave Portland. Right. But he felt in order to appease a lot of people that kept putting pressure on him, he needed to go somewhere.

8:31Shannon Sharpe:Man, Steph done played for a championship. Luka done played for a championship. This one done played for a championship. Dame ain't ever been close to playing for a championship. They got him up out of there, but he went to a place. That ain't where he wanted to go. He said he wanted to go to Miami. Well, Miami didn't offer the package that Minnesota offered. Excuse me. Milwaukee offered. So they ended up, I'm trying to get the best deal, Ocho. I understand. You my boy, Ocho. Hey, I'm going to do everything I possibly can. But you know, Ocho, where you want to go ain't offering me what this place over here.

9:06Shannon Sharpe:So you might have to do a Kawhi. You might have to do a detour. You might have to go somewhere for a year and let them move you. But I got to take the highest price. And for them, Joe, let me know what you think. It seems to me when somebody take the steps that Milwaukee took, it seems like to me, now maybe I'm exaggerating, but I think they were over Dane. Yeah. They realized that this thing wasn't going to work. Ocho, that's$111 million, Joe? It's just, for me, I think they were thinking like the injuries. I mean, he's pretty much been injured over there every year, so they could never get full potential into what they could be.

9:44Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to be honest with y 'all. I was excited about him going to Milwaukee. I know he didn't want to go there, but I just thought him and Giannis would bring a different element to the Eastern Conference that a lot of these teams wouldn't be able to match. And the fact that he had to deal with these injuries the past two years, man, I just feel like they was like, well, you know, our time is up on that. You know what I mean? He was injured. Giannis was injured his first year. then he got then he you know kind of nick he was licked early then now they say you know what let instead of trying to let this thing play out let's go ahead and cut the cord because sometimes Ocho people like well well maybe we can salvage it nah bro you burnt this let's don't let's not peel this burnt edges away and try to eat the insides nah bro just go ahead throw this whole issue in the trash and move on and let's try to get another dish going because that's what happened They were like, we're not trying to salvage this.

10:34Shannon Sharpe:We already know what it is. Yeah. And it's a situation where I'm sure Giannis is frustrated because Giannis said, like, these superstars, they keep their foot on these teams' neck because I want to compete for a championship every single year. Right. It's unfortunate. It's funny how they do. They don't see value in you anymore once you get hurt. Once you get injured, that's it. You've been that. Well, I don't know if you've ever been that, but, Joe, you've been that. I've been injured. They don't even talk to you. You get hurt, man, they don't even talk to you. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Until you getting close to get back, you ain't scared, are you?

11:13Shannon Sharpe:Bro, the last three weeks, you ain't said a damn word to me. Now, all of a sudden, I'm a couple of days away from returning. Now you asking me how I'm feeling. You should have asked me that three weeks ago. Hey, boy, it's lonely being hurt. I ain't going to lie to you. Yes. It's lonely being hurt, boy. Damn. Man. that's the worst. Man, I broke my collarbone, man. I should have had this thing replaced. I mean, it almost broke out of the skin. And so it's like, it's going to be like, that was week four I broke it. So they say it's going to be like eight to 10 weeks. Yeah. So, Ojo, you know what I'm saying?

11:50Shannon Sharpe:I go and like week six, I'm running on the treadmill. Man, I try to open up. Crack. What? To all the scar tissue loose. What? Now I'm gone for the rest of the year. Oh, man. You got to yawn that way then yawn. I tried to rush back out there. I already know. I know. You know I had a thing. I said, man, you know, I feel, oh, Joe, you know, I feel pretty good. You know, I'm saying like that. I said, let me open this thing. Let me open it up. Joe, I got geeked, Joe. I was feeling good too. I mess around like, I tried. Damn. I hit that button. I got that up there. As a matter of fact, they knew it was bad.

12:43Shannon Sharpe:They sent me to New York and saw the Giants team doctor. He said, yeah, you tore the scar tissue, the cartilage you lose through from there. He said, that's a six weeks injury. That's Ralph O'Shannon. Yeah Damn Yeah I let them gas me I will come on back Yeah you trying to get back Too fast Check this out Ocho There is a video that has surfaced today Of Wilkins dancing In the Raiders facility To Backstreet Boys just a few days ago Check out this video guys

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16:17Shannon Sharpe:he already knew what was going on. A lot of times, all they want to do is get you on video, Joe. Man, I already know it, man. I don't know if y 'all did this, but I can explain something. A lot of times, guys are like, man, I'm hurt. I'm hurt. I can't go out there. And they say, look, we just want you to go out there and just do a couple of walkthroughs. They put them pads on, they go out there, and they do the walkthrough, and when they come back in there, they get that little tap on the shoulder. They want to see you upstairs. They already got you on film. They got you on film. Okay. Now I ain't telling what somebody told you.

16:53Shannon Sharpe:I'm telling what I know. Hey, that's all they want to see. Hey, you going through the A. I want to see you upstairs. Hey, so hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Camp now started, right? His homie unknowingly incriminated him by posting it on Instagram, not knowing that they going through something already and they used that video against him and they got him up out of there. Wow. There are reports. This is reports. We don't know if it's true or not. Saying that Wilkins refused surgery when the team recommended. Ocho, you remember the Michael Thomas situation? He had all offseason and this man had surgery in June.

17:34Shannon Sharpe:Right. The situation with Wilkins and Vegas has been simmering for months as both sides disagreed on how the foot injury and recovery should be handled. Christian Wilkins made$29 million last year and had already$25.5 million already this year. That's$50 million,$49.7 million for five games. Hold on. He trying to get out of there? He trying to get out of there, Ocho? so he was going to make 7 million which would have pushed the total to 50 basically about 57 million with another 27.5 do therefore in last 84.5 million guaranteed yeah hey y 'all want me to have surgery okay now when I can't come back and play remember y 'all recommended this surgery what surgery are you supposed to have I think he had a Liz Frank I think he had a foot injury oh okay if you have a Liz Frank do you actually need do you need surgery or is it sometimes they recommend it but at the end of the look Ocho remember how I told you if I'm going to get hurt I'm going to get hurt on team's time if I'm going to have surgery I'm going to have it on your time so if it goes awry right remember what you said right okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay damn i mean he could go okay you i i got a doctor your doctor says this okay let's go get an independent doctor somebody that doesn't because my doctor is gonna look out for the best interest of me your doctor is gonna look out for the best interest of the team let's go get somebody that ain't got no dog in the fight let's go to Anderson up in Charlotte let's go to get somebody at the Curlin Joe Clinic out here let's go see the Andrew hey I got another time I'm going to go see James Andrews I'm going to go see Stedman Hawkins I'm going to go see Dr.

19:42Shannon Sharpe:Anderson up in Charlotte I'm going to go see Watkins I'm going to go see five or six doctors what is the best treatment for this okay y 'all here's the x-rays this is what's going on what is the best course of action do i let this heal on its own will it heal on its own or do i need to have surgeon have this thing fixed what do you guys recommend okay i got seven eight different opinions six of them says have surgery nah six of them says let it heal two has surgery i mean listen you know your body you know your body than everybody else he felt he didn't need surgery, obviously, but with training camp starting.

20:26Shannon Sharpe:He has a Jones fracture. Let me take that back. I said Liz Franks. He has a Jones fracture. Oh, well, that needs surgery there, baby. I think he had already had surgery. Maybe he needed another surgery. Hey, hold on. What's the Jones? What is that, Unc? It's like a... Hold on. Oh, Joe, y 'all got to break that down for you, boy. Hey, but listen, don't get me the line, boy. I ain't never been hurt, so I know Jones. A Jones fracture, also known as the fifth metatarsal fracture is a break in the bone that connects the pinky toe to the foot base. So the pinky toe, the little bone that's right here?

21:01Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You need that, boy. Yeah. Hey, I would have got that. There it is right there. Oh, can y 'all see that? Yeah, I can see it. Yeah. Hey, I would have got that done right away. Right away. And that's not a small man. That's a large man. Yeah, yeah. Think about it. That's a large man. And he's quick. He's agile. His whole thing is playing with quickness. He had surgery last October, but the rehab didn't work, and he needed surgery again per team. I don't even got it. Yeah. I don't even got that. You got that, Sergio Ocho. Play no game. Ocho, I got it. Ocho, Ocho, this is not like I'm in a contract year.

21:51Shannon Sharpe:I got$84 million guaranteed. Yeah. And I'm in Las Vegas with no state income tax. Right. I guarantee you get picked up. I can tell you where you going to go to. Where you going, Ocho? Over there with a star on their helmet. Because it's not a one, it's a need. Uh-oh. But here's the thing, Ocho. If he's not healthy, can he pass a physical? Oh. I understand the game he playing. He trying to pull the wool over there. eyes on Joe? Man, listen. Man, listen. He might. You never know how a player feel. If you're saying one thing and they're trying to force you to do something else and they basically got the player feeling like, well, damn, you really don't care about me.

22:34You just want me to get out there on the field. Ocho, no. Ocho, they're telling him to have surgery. No, but he's trying to do it his way without having to have the surgery. One, I'm not going back under the knife again. I'm going to wait until he's on his own. then when I feel I'm healthy enough, I'm going to get on the field. That's the only thing it could be.

22:58Shannon Sharpe:But you can't be dancing in the locker room, Mojo. You can't be dancing in the training room. That part. You know they can't. Oh, Joe, I don't know how Cincinnati do it. Joe, I don't know how they do it. But in Denver, we had cameras everywhere. The meeting room, big meeting room, small meeting room, training room, locker room. Somebody posted that though. That's, that's a, but, but, oh, they got cameras in there too. But, and again, Ocho, why? Why would you, why are you dancing? It's like, if you injured, Ocho, you know this, Joe, you know this. If you injured, if they found, if you injured and you out, boy, they gonna act, they gonna act a fool.

23:41Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. It's like, you injured and you out? Man, you know, hey, bro, you can't, There's certain things you have to do. And people that's not in this profession don't understand. When I got a life outside of this, bro, they're paying this man$84 million, fully guaranteed. They pay you X amount of dollars. Bro, if you injured, you can't be going out to the club. It's really that simple. Not to get caught. It's hard to go out in a city with a sports franchise. They're going to know. Nowadays, it's hard to do any damn thing. Yes! Yeah. It used to be, before I got there, like a couple of years before I got there, the Broncos used to stay at home the night before the game.

24:32Shannon Sharpe:But after a couple of DUIs, a couple of people getting in fights, they said, no, I'll take y 'all ass to the hotel. Right. And so, and now, Ocho, you know if somebody is out before the night before the game, before the game the night before the game or if you injured, Ocho, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho you Ocho, you ain't playing in three weeks because you injured but you out you know somebody posted that, Ocho Joe, you know somebody gonna post that, this is why the Bengals can't win no game, this is why Ocho can't get back on the field, look at him out here at the club now Mike Brown gonna feel some type away.

25:15Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Hey, hold on though. Oh, Cho, so on game days, even if you're at home, they still make you ask you to stay at a hotel? Yeah, you stay at a hotel night before the game. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Man, if you didn't, Joe, them Joe's going to be... Man, them Joe's going to go... We had guys go get drunk.

25:39Shannon Sharpe:Hey. Hey. Okay. I dig it. Oh, hey, Joe, man, look here, man. We had some guys come in on Friday morning. Yeah. Bro, hit the shower, man. Just go on and get in the shower, man. You got to sweat some of that. You got to get that up out you, man. Because, I mean, you smell like a liquor still. Yeah, yeah. I mean, did you, like, take a bath in vodka, gin, or some coffee? I mean, damn. Hey, hey, when we just check in hotels, they used to take some of them cats' mini bars. Oh, yeah. They wouldn't even have liquor in their minibar. I'm serious. Hey, people don't get it. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Hey, look, look.

26:20Shannon Sharpe:Because my teammates will be coming to my room. Hey, let me get something about your minibar. Let me get something about your minibar. No. Because people are going to think, I'm drinking out the minibar. No, hell no. And you know they got the minibars now, Joe, that if you touch it, if you don't put that thing back in like 30 seconds, they charge you. Hey, get out of here. They going to get there. Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. I put that little thing on my door. I open the door right there. Hey, what you want? Come on, Sharp, man. Ain't no come on, Sharp. Ain't no come on, Sharp, man. Nope. Yeah.

26:57Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man. I hate this situation. I really do. Because, I mean, Wilkins is a phenomenal player. He's gone to the Pro Bowl quick. He's agile. He can rush the passer. He can stop the run. I mean, he's a very, very good defensive lineman. Yeah. And for it to come like this, and see this, you see what I'm saying, Ocho? This is why they hate to get guaranteed money, you see? Because now they'll take one situation like this and try to put it on the other four. Yeah, and use that as the poster reason on why we don't do it. But, yeah, but listen, there's more to the story. Oh, yeah, for sure. We only know one side.

27:45We don't know his side. I'm sure his side is valid. He has a reason for doing what he was doing. And it's unfortunate it's come to this. He's going to land somewhere because there's too much of a talent at the position. And the defensive tackles, that can be used and use his service somewhere.

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28:02Shannon Sharpe:I'm getting healthy. But I'm going to get my money back. I'm going to get my money back. You think you don't win that grievance? I don't know. He might not get it. I mean, he might, look, without, I mean, a guarantee is a guarantee. Right. And see, that's the problem that you run into, Ocho, you see? Now, they ain't just trying to take the guarantee back this year. They're trying to take back all the remaining guarantee. But why he wouldn't just had a surgery, though? And they still was on ban? Yeah, absolutely. I don't get it. he had made just a little less than 50 million dollars for five games there's a good chance that he has the surgery again um he gonna miss this year so he had another 27 million this year so basically like 30 37 34 and a half million dollars on top of the money that he got matter of fact not because if you only played five games right and they done paid him that much already and you ain't had surgery in the whole off season and now be going into camp and you might this season again too if you don't get surgery man to hell with this shit right cause they looked at he had surgery in October so they probably saw this thing around what say like March April and it wasn't healing properly right so they say hey let's go ahead and he's like nah Because remember, Michael Thomas had that injury.

29:32Shannon Sharpe:And that was my question, Ocho. Bro, you had the whole offseason, so you got done. So you had end of January, February, March, April, May. You don't get the surgery until June? And you go into camp in July? Right. And you don't understand why the Saints are upset? Yeah. Damn. I'm confused. But hey, hopefully they get it resolved. Jalen Hurst was asked if he will open up his play style more now that he's won a Super Bowl. He said, no, I went a very long time being told I got to do it a certain type of way. That didn't get me the win when I did how everyone told me to. When you put so much energy into personal performance, you kind of lose sight of the main thing of winning.

30:21Shannon Sharpe:Since the loss in 2022, it's been my main motivation to find ways to win. Regardless of how it looks, I just want to find ways to win. And that mentality, I want this team to have. I like it. Perfect answer. I know a guy who won a bunch of games and a bunch of championships doing it that way. Tom Brady. Yeah. Y 'all remember Tom Brady in his first Super Bowl? Didn't even throw 450 yards. Do y 'all remember Tom Brady in the Super Bowl against the Rams? In which the second Super Bowl when they played in Atlanta? How many yards did he throw for? You see? Winning. But now they want Jalen Hurts to get out there and be like Patrick Mahomes.

31:07Shannon Sharpe:Man, we need you to throw for 400. I throw for 400 and we lose. Then what are we doing? Nothing. And he just looked good until you look at the stat line. The pretty person that get dressed up with nowhere to go. now what good is that Ocho I got on my Sunday best I got on some nice boots I got on nice suit got nice outfit Ocho I'm dressed to the 9 I ain't got nowhere to go so he throw for all them yards and they lose now what the most yards ever thrown for in the Super Bowl game Tom Brady has it what was the outcome loss

31:50Shannon Sharpe:505 lost one game he threw for 150 how many yards did he throw for against the Rams the second time in Atlanta I think it was 2019

32:07Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to win that's it, that's all that matters at the end of the day no matter what the outsiders say no matter what the outsiders say Philadelphia plays one style of football offensively. One style. A.J. Brown some days, it's going to be your day. Devontae Smith some day, it's going to be your day. Saquon some days, some Sundays, some Sundays, it's going to be your day. That's it. Jalen Hurst, when it comes to the passing game, whatever you give me, that's what I'm taking. I'm not forcing Nathaniel.

32:47and he showed you that formula it wins your ring

32:52Shannon Sharpe:yeah man i'm coming back to play this year man fuck that a reporter asked jaylen hurts why he didn't wear his super bowl ring his response i've moved on to a new year it's really as simple as that what that boy mean business wait what was his response uh i've moved on to the new year is really as simple as that. Yeah, Lee. Well, that's like some Kobe, Jordan type. Listen, I know I won, but the job at hand is not finished. My goodness. Okay, I like that. I like that. I like that. Damn. Oh, I definitely put mine on. I wore it that night, and then it went in the safety pocket box. That was it, huh?

33:43that was it i don't wear them oh you got here's the thing to ocho yeah they know you got them

33:50Shannon Sharpe:yeah yeah yeah they don't need to have it on huh yeah yeah i mean i'm walking around outside like changing like a wind chime ah you know hmm

34:04Shannon Sharpe:i like that hey he's very matter of fact he's like hey i do hey he coached by his dad he played for Coach Saban. Yeah. The main thing is the main thing. And it's on to the next. That was Tom. What's your favorite Super Bowl ring? The next one I get. Hey, I got a question. Hypothetically speaking, when the Bengals are the Super Bowl, you think they'll get me a ring? I don't know. They might. Sometimes that happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think this happens. I mean, the Ravens gave J-O one when they won in 2012. Yeah, I think that's probably going to get me a ring because I know Joe and Chase and Mike Brown, they're going to hey, listen, I might not be out there in real life.

34:54Hey, you see that stance? Hey, call it. Call it for me. Call it for me. Call it for me.

35:00Shannon Sharpe:All I know is I saw that man put both hands in your breastplate. Come on, sit down in that chair. Hold on. Call it. Call it. What you want me to do? Blue 17. Blue 17.

35:17said, Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe.

35:19Shannon Sharpe:You know what happens. All that dance in one place, that joke coming up through your chin. Oh, no. You know, I don't really dance. I got places to be. I got places to be. Hey, I felt real quick right there. I felt real quick. See, that's the thing. See, that's how you might play tricks on you. You see, you felt quick.

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38:21Shannon Sharpe:Shiloh recently gave away 253 meals while working at KFC for a day when a fan pulled up wearing a Bucks jersey. This is the first time Shiloh had seen one. Check this out, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he got his jersey! The 28 jersey! The 28 jersey! The 28 jersey! That's the first one I've seen. That's it. I told you. I wrote you all. Hold on. I'm about to give you five. I'm about to give you five bags, bro. Take all these, bro. Make sure everybody eat, bro. Sign everything or not? Yes, of course. I'll take this off right now. Yeah, take it off. Let me get it. All right, this is the first Bucks jersey I ever signed.

39:01Oh, yeah? The first one. Where's everybody at, yo? I don't know where you got this from, but... I'm about to order that throwback in here. I need to see you in that thing. No, most definitely. Appreciate you, brother. I'm going to sign the front, too. Yeah, do it. I was thinking that, too, on the way here. I ain't even sure this. What's your name, bro? Jake. All right, nice to meet you, bro. Appreciate you, man. But that got to be a great feeling, huh? Yeah. That got to be a great feeling.

39:32Shannon Sharpe:I wonder if somebody got that number one sign, because I was number one in the preseason, Ocho. that thing might be worth some money even back then yeah how do they let you get away with wearing number one in the preseason you can wear anything in the preseason all the 80s were gone okay okay okay okay i didn't know that yeah i didn't know that hey that gotta be a great hey that gotta be one of the best feelings man to see people wearing your jersey despite for sure you know you you finally get drafted you finally get drafted to a team and then to come in and that's dope. That's got to be a great feeling.

40:05I remember not only getting drafted, my favorite moment that had me like that how Charlotte was just there was seeing myself in Madden. Seeing myself in Madden in 2001, I was going crazy. My stats was low as hell. I wasn't tripping but I was calling all my home but I said, I won't believe it. I'm in Madden. I'm in Madden. Just being able to play with yourself man that was awesome

40:31Shannon Sharpe:hold on now Ocho hold on now rephrase that what oh pause pause yeah yeah yeah yeah man come on back with that

40:46pause pause pause hey it didn't even it didn't date clearly it didn't my bad pause Yeah, yeah, yeah.

41:00Shannon Sharpe:Uh.

41:05Shannon Sharpe:Nah. Man, I was like, hey. Hey, you got me good. Man, I need to go down to Tampa. Hey, he's passing out free meals. Yeah. I give me 20 pieces of 100 barbecue. They still sell those at KFC? Man, I ain't been to KFC. I ain't been to KFC. They used to have 20, they still sell them 100 barbecue wings? Yeah. Hey, Chad, can you still get honey barbecue wings at KFC? I know y 'all know, Chad. You eat KFC? I will. Nah, you tripping, man. You better go into churches. Ain't nothing like churches, boy. And number three, three legs fries. Get your little coleslaw on the side. You eat coleslaw? you don't eat hell no you don't eat coleslaw what okay you know the way you feel about coleslaw is the way I feel about my grandma okras she get them okras from churches I can't do that I can't do that no ma 'am tell me do I want some absolutely not absolutely not but I will take that coleslaw with that strawberry soda Lamar Jackson was asked if 2025 might be the year to finally win the Super Bowl.

42:30Shannon Sharpe:This is what he responded to, Ocho. He said, to be honest, I really try not thinking that far because every time we have those discussions, we get to the playoffs, but we don't punch in. We don't finish. I'm trying to finish camp the right way and then get ready for the Bills. I'm trying not to think about the Super Bowl yet. I like that. and I hate when reporters ask those questions thinking so far ahead. One game at a time. Every player should be thinking one game at a time. We already know at the end. They only ask guys that haven't won the Super Bowl. You think they ask Tom Brady about the Super Bowl?

43:08Shannon Sharpe:No. Did they ask Patrick Mahomes about the Super Bowl? No. They only ask the quarterbacks, the great quarterbacks that haven't won it. Guess what? Lamar Jackson win, they'll never ask him about 26. They won't ask him about 27. If Joe Burrow, if Josh Allen, or I guarantee you they don't ask Jalen Hurst about no Super Bowl in 25. Right. Mm-hmm. Can he done it? Right, yeah. You, Ocho, until you do it, oh, he can do that. But until you show people you can do it. They're going to be on your head. I don't think it's a good question to ask. You know what it is. We all in the training camp. We all have the same goal once we get to camp.

43:52The end goal is to make it to the Super Bowl. We already know why. We know why we fell short. Turnovers. We understand that. We all watch the game. I mean, a reporter, I know I understand reporters have a job to do. Let's talk about this season. Let's talk about this season. Let's talk about week one. They go straight to the finish line. We don't want to go straight to the finish line. Let's talk about who we got week one and who we're preparing for. I mean, but that's neither here nor there.

44:19Shannon Sharpe:It's funny. Man, I ain't thinking about week one. But see, it was different there in Ocho because we was playing in the preseason. Right. So it wasn't no thinking about no week one. I'm just trying to get through training camp. I'm trying to get through these preseason games healthy. And then when week one rolled around, I worry about week one. But I'm trying to stay healthy in training camp. I ain't trying to get no blisters. I ain't trying to get no dings. and I ain't trying to get dinged in preseason games. Because like I said, Ocho, you got 10 plays in the first game. You got probably 15, 20 plays in the second game.

44:52Shannon Sharpe:And you played until the third quarter, the third game. The fourth game, you sat out. Wow, yep. So I wouldn't – now these guys – because Lamar, there's a good chance Lamar might not play. If he plays, he'll probably play 10 plays the entire preseason. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, I thought I could be wrong. I thought I saw something saying that Joe was going to play a little bit more in the preseason. Well, he should because y 'all start slow. So something has to change. Change something up for Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just play a few more staff to get more acclimated to the game scene as opposed to just going in there week one and trying to play catch up.

45:33Well, I think every time the season starts, the defense is always ahead of the curve in front of offenses

45:40Shannon Sharpe:because all they got to do. My defense is always going to be ahead of curve, just like when we got the training camp, Ochoa, because they're reacting. Our stuff is timing. It takes time to get timing. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Jalen Ramsey was asked outright if he would play safety. He said he'd be willing to, but also included an interesting detail. Yeah. I'm not getting paid what I'm getting paid not to affect the game and be in certain spots. Mm, I like that. Hey, that's a bar. That is a bar. They not paying me this much money not to be able to affect the game. And where can a player affect the game best at?

46:15At the corner position.

46:17Shannon Sharpe:Well, unless you're Ed Reed. Well, there ain't going to be no Ed Reed for a very long time. Nah, man. To me, he the best safety to ever play. Yeah. And I played in there with Ronnie. Yeah. I played with Ed. I got a year of Ed. Got a year of Troy. He different. I ain't never seen those guys take the ball away like him. He was different. Hey, you're talking about a true student of the game. He can tell you what you're doing before you do it. C.D. Lamb needed to get something off his chest today, Ocho. I feel like the league knows what happens when I'm healthy and I have that for a whole season. But if you don't, I will happily show you what's going to be like this year.

47:02Shannon Sharpe:Honestly, I'm a dominant receiver. I don't like to speak highly of myself, but I can't wait to show you guys. I like CD and George Pickens debuted a new handshake. Let's take a look at this old Joe.

47:28I don't know what they threw up. Finally, we got something to look forward to. If you're a Cowboys fan, you got something to look forward to. Look at, listen, it's going to be exciting. Offensively, it's going to be exciting. It's going to be fireworks. Goddamn, George picking his elite. I almost said elite. He's good. Very good. If he got his head on straight and he keeps the main thing.

47:52Shannon Sharpe:I'm glad, Ocho, because we throw around that elite. We throw around that elite. I almost slipped up. I almost slipped up. Listen, if he keep the main thing, the main thing, this season over there in Dallas, not only is he going to have a great season along with CZ Lamb and Dak he's going to have a nice payday at the end of the season and it won't be with him it ain't got to be the Cowboys they don't need to be there he can go somewhere else and be a number one and do what he needs to do he done seen everybody else get paid and he was supposed to be right in line next so this is your year well kicking the can down the road ain't going to help that with Micah because how you going to pay Micah because see here's the thing you signed Michael last year before this 35 you might get him for 35.

48:37Shannon Sharpe:Yeah now you have to go to 42 43. Yeah it's unfortunate man it's unfortunate but hey all right Ocho we're gonna get out of here on this one it's time for our final segment of the evening it's time for Q &A.

49:02Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I still got it. True and famous. Jerry throwing shade at Micah. Micah depressed. Two Cowboy players fighting each other on the first day of training camp. Yeah. Cowboy disappointment. Ocho, you ready to go with that? Yeah. You think the Cowboys are going to have a disappointing season? No. No. I don't know what they're going to do on defense. I can tell you what they're going to do on offense, though. As long as Dak stays upright and healthy. I can tell you what they're going to do with offense, though. I know what CeeDee Lamb is going to do. I know what George Pickens is going to do. I know what's going to happen.

49:37I wish they would. I wish they would double CeeDee. And we got to understand, George Pickens is someone that can go from, he can hit his head off the goalpost from anywhere on the field. I done seen him take plants. I done seen him take hitches. He can go through. He can do it all now. He can do it all.

49:56Shannon Sharpe:Hopefully, he has his head on. He's in a great situation. quarterback that can get him to football. They wanted him. And so hopefully, you know, all the bad tastes, all the things that happened in Pittsburgh, he left that there and he comes with a new slate in Dallas. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy, what up, Doc? Hey, fam, just checking in. I appreciate the love, energy, and passion each of you bring every single night. Well, we thank you. We appreciate you watching every single night. We appreciate everybody that's in the chat, everybody that's ever watched, listened to, downloaded, talked about, heard about.

50:33Shannon Sharpe:We appreciate all of you because without you, there can be no us. So Elcho and everybody here at the Nightcap family, we greatly appreciate all of our guests and subscribers. Kemper Norwood Jr. said, My question is, who's on your Mount Rushmore of Atlanta rappers of all time? Wow. That's a good one. Three Stacks? Three Stacks?

51:03Damn.

51:06Shannon Sharpe:Three stacks.

51:11Shannon Sharpe:Tip. Jeezy.

51:16Shannon Sharpe:Woo-wee.

51:23Shannon Sharpe:My, my Rushmore. So don't be coming to me talking about how this is. This is mine. Right. Three stacks. Luda, T.I., Jeezy.

51:40Shannon Sharpe:Yes, I know Lil Baby in Atlanta. I know Savage. I know Future. But for me, I ain't leaving three stacks off. And Tip, Luda, Jeezy. nah run tell that Deshaun Allen say what's up Ocho question who had the best comeback jokes between Fred Sanford, Estum Martin, Pam or George Jefferson and Weezy Weezy the best it got to be Estum Fred Sanford and Estum definitely Fred Sanford and Estum hey that's classic matter of fact you know what can I tell you something you know what I love about when we do the show during the week because we get around 12 12 30. You know, come on at one o 'clock. Sanford, so Sanford, the sun.

52:34Shannon Sharpe:See, I would go I would go Fred Fred Sanford and Esther Martin and Pam and then Georgia Weezy. Yeah, absolutely.

52:48Shannon Sharpe:Aaron or it's good to see players with short careers getting to just do like Sterling and Tony Buscelli. Hopefully Eric William is next. Thank you. We're very very excited. My brother goes into the hall of what a week from Saturday. What is that? The first? That's the first. A week from Saturday is the first right? We're extremely excited. I'm excited. I'm hell I ain't heard him speak in such a long time. He ain't got before minutes. He ain't got the kind of time that I had. They said, get y 'all ass up there and sit y 'all ass down. But it ain't before of them, so I mean, they probably let him go a little longer.

53:35Shannon Sharpe:But I'm excited. Passed up, said, to save your life, which jersey would you pick between the Raiders and the Steelers? The most sought-after helmet, the two most sought-after helmets at the Pro Bowl, Raiders and the Cowboys. You had to like put a bid in like, hey, bro, if you make the Pro Bowl, bro, hey, can I get that helmet? Because you got to realize who was going. You got Troy, the quarterback. Okay, yeah, I love the trade hook quarter. You got time. You got Mike Urban. You got Emmitt. Those are the skill position. And then you had Nate Newton. You had Big Easy. You had Larry Allen. Yeah. And then for the Raiders, you had Tim Brown.

54:20Shannon Sharpe:I think one year you had Jerry. Who else? You had like T-Mac, Terry McDaniel. Yeah, but everybody wanted those. We were Steelers fans growing up. My mom liked the Steelers. So I think I took my first or third grade pitcher in a Steelers jersey, Franco Harris. Never forget. Because you remember Steelers jerseys used to have those sleeves, they had the three-quarter sleeve. The sleeve come to your elbow. Mm-hmm. hot hot ass jerseys

54:57Shannon Sharpe:Jalen Ivey said better season Ocho 06 Torrey Holt 03 I don't even remember what I did in 06

55:10Shannon Sharpe:I think Torrey Holt had like 16 I think you had 1600 too I think Torrey Holt had like 1600 because Torrey Holt had like a stretch like four or five straight seasons he went over 1 ,500. Hey, man, you see that team he was able to play for? Torrey had 1 ,696. How many touchdowns? Oh, was that the same year that what you call him had? Yeah, 1 ,696, 12 touchdowns. And how many will Ocho have?

55:461 ,696.

55:50Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, he beat you about 300 yards and five touchdowns, but I got to rock with you. Hold on, I have a question. Yeah. Do they understand who he played for, what team he played for, in what era? The greatest show on turf. I think, you know what, Ocho, I think, what you call him, well, that was 03. What you call him was still there, I think, in 03. Kurt, or was Bulger, who was quarterback. because he put up some numbers with Bolgers too you remember Mark Bolger he put up some numbers with him yeah and you guys listen Mark ain't had to do much it was Mark Bolger wasn't it yeah all that he had all them boys over there on offense man man them boys run that hey boy they run that speed out him I really like boy they run that speed out on you smooth as hell like they fall enough to hey that 10 rolled a 12 and fall off the table

56:52Shannon Sharpe:uh jvon said what's y 'all reaction to dante jones video i didn't dante jones okay it was funny i don't know i didn't see it me neither what is it i don't know we'll look at we'll look at it we'll try to get to it on uh when we on tomorrow

57:20tomorrow

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