Nightcap Hour 1: 49ers BEAT Chargers + Mendoza STRUGGLES in 2nd Preseason GAME + NFL FINES Cowboys & Saints $500K + Jimmy Johnson CHOSE VIOLENCE + Joe Burrow URGENT MESSAGE for Bengals

21 Aug 2026 · 1 h 10 min · 23 chapters

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In short

The episode is a sports-heavy “Nightcap” discussion covering three main NFL topics: (1) the 49ers beating the Chargers in a preseason game, (2) Raiders rookie QB Fernando Mendoza struggling in the second preseason game, and (3) NFL fines for Cowboys and Saints after joint practice brawls, plus a Jimmy Johnson story about “choosing violence.”

Guests

Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (former Pro Bowler/All-Pro; Bengals Ring of Fame) and ISO Joe Johnson (7-time NBA All-Star). They co-host with the “favorite uncle” host (Shannon).

Key claims and notable examples

  • 49ers vs Chargers: Brock Purdy and Justin Herbert barely played; Trey Lance and Mack Jones also saw action. They rate the QB evaluation as hard because starters weren’t fully tested. They praise Lance’s legs/throws and focus on the 49ers’ run game (41-17 final mentioned) while worrying about the secondary if pass rush isn’t there.
  • Mendoza (Raiders): He threw an interception that led to an 80-yard pick-six (Wade Woodass). Despite 8/15 for 86 yards in the first half and two interceptions, they say his arm talent and some throws show he can be coached up.
  • Cowboys/Saints: NFL fined both teams $500K for actions during joint practice; Jerry Jones reportedly plans internal accountability.
  • Jimmy Johnson: Johnson posted a contract clause giving him prior approval/control over Cowboys assistant coaches and personnel, framed as “choosing violence” against Jerry Jones’s claims about Herschel Walker.

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Discussion on 49ers vs. Chargers Preseason Game

0:31 to 0:55

Analyze the performance of the 49ers and Chargers in their preseason matchup.

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Discussion on 49ers vs. Chargers Preseason Game

2:01 to 2:44

Analyze the performance of the 49ers and Chargers in their preseason matchup.

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Discussion on 49ers vs. Chargers Preseason Game

4:29 to 5:13

Analyze the performance of the 49ers and Chargers in their preseason matchup.

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Discussion on 49ers vs. Chargers Preseason Game

6:29 to 8:13

Analyze the performance of the 49ers and Chargers in their preseason matchup.

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Quarterback Performances in Preseason

8:13 to 10:34

Evaluate the quarterback play from both teams and their prospects.

“so I mean listen if I was a graded Joe from a scale of 1 to 10 on both teams I mean I'd give it a 6 I'm just going to be honest I'd give it a 6 tonight Joe what you thinking?”

Team and Player Assessments Post-Game

10:34 to 14:00

Discuss overall team performance and individual player assessments after the game.

“When you, I don't think he did himself any favors.”

Analyzing the 49ers' Season Prospects

14:00 to 16:28

Discussion on the strengths and concerns of the 49ers for the upcoming season.

“He started at Nebraska and then went to Kansas State, right?”

Injuries and Playing Conditions in the NFL

16:28 to 19:05

Exploration of the impact of injuries and playing surfaces on player performance.

“So these teams, the 49ers don't typically play on grass, Uncle Ocho?”

Fernando Mendoza's Preseason Performance

19:05 to 20:47

Analysis of Mendoza's struggles and potential as a rookie quarterback.

“And I don't know how Barry Neves held up the way they did playing on that when he was in the dome.”

Texans' Defensive Strength and Offensive Needs

22:26 to 28:00

Discussion on the Texans' defense and the need for improved quarterback play.

“Fernando Mendoza struggled in the second preseason game, throwing an interception that used to return for a touchdown.”
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Evaluating CJ Stroud's Performance

28:00 to 29:20

A discussion on CJ Stroud's progress as he enters his fourth year and the expectations surrounding his performance.

“Normally quarterbacks, when they're sure about you going into your fourth year, you know what you get, Joe?”

Assessing Houston's Offensive Weapons

29:20 to 31:20

Exploration of the offensive options available to CJ Stroud, including key players like Tank Dell and David Montgomery.

“They just got to get the quarterback play right, bro.”

The Pressure of Playing Quarterback

31:20 to 32:40

An examination of the pressures faced by quarterbacks and the scrutiny that comes with the position.

“But sometimes I think he started reading the press, I think, because we hadn't seen a rookie play that well because he was phenomenal.”

Expectations for Quarterbacks

32:40 to 34:20

Discussion on the qualities expected from quarterbacks and the impact of their performance on the team's success.

“There ain't no, well, I wonder why he makes so much money.”

NFL Fines for Unsportsmanlike Conduct

34:20 to 36:00

Review of the NFL fines imposed on the Cowboys and Saints due to unsportsmanlike behavior during joint practices.

“All that other stuff, how you look and how you talk and all that, that's going to, you know, if advertisers and sponsors, they might have a problem with that.”

Reactions to NFL Fines

36:00 to 43:13

Analysis of the implications of the NFL's disciplinary actions and how teams may respond to these fines.

“The NFL find Cowboys and Saints$500 ,000 each for what it called actions that took place in the joint practice between the teams earlier this week.”

Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones: The Clash of Titans

45:01 to 56:00

Explore the ongoing feud between Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones over credit and control in the Dallas Cowboys' legacy.

“Jerry, you know, Jerry's been saying it was him in the Hershel Walker.”

Joe Burrow's Pressure to Perform

56:00 to 1:03:18

Explore the pressures faced by Joe Burrow and the expectations for the Bengals this season.

“Well, you said this, but you're playing like that.”

Discussing Offensive Line and Protection

1:03:18 to 1:10:01

A discussion on the importance of protecting Joe Burrow and the team's offensive strategies.

“You know, we're trying to motivate the players inside the locker room.”

Concerns About Protecting Joe

1:10:01 to 1:12:02

The hosts discuss the importance of protecting quarterback Joe Burrow in the upcoming season.

“Hey, hey Joe was out last year, what, six games out?”

Practice Conditions and Experiences

1:12:03 to 1:14:26

The conversation shifts to practice conditions and experiences of players during their training.

“If they could throw that snow out the field, because we had coils, we had heating coils in the practice field, especially the one that was closest to the building.”

Valuation of NFL Franchises

1:14:27 to 1:17:29

Discussion about the rising value of NFL franchises, focusing on the Bengals' worth.

“Man, we took like six of them just to get all of us to one destination.”

Valuation of NFL Franchises

1:19:10 to 1:19:24

Discussion about the rising value of NFL franchises, focusing on the Bengals' worth.

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7:14Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, what do you think tonight? What do you think about the quarterback play?

7:17Joe Johnson:I mean, the quarterback play was okay, Unc. Obviously, the longer you do play, the better your numbers will look. I just don't really use the preseason as a measuring stick to gauge how good you will be. Obviously, if I was a coach, I'd use it just to see to make sure you don't make any mental errors. You know, how you play against pressure in some of these different situations, you know, down and distance by position, you know. How well you do against against opponents when it actually matters, when it's not practice, when the game speed is different. You know, how fast can you process information based on your respective position?

7:56Joe Johnson:You know, stuff like that, man, being able to read and adjust on the fly for defenders. but I mean for me it's really hard to really give a fair assessment on not just the team in general but players individually especially for your starters so I mean listen if I was a graded Joe from a scale of 1 to 10 on both teams I mean I'd give it a 6 I'm just going to be honest I'd give it a 6 tonight

8:25Shannon Sharpe:Joe what you thinking? I kind of understand where Ocho coming from. I kind of agree with him. You know, for me, I thought the 49ers ran the ball well. They had some great, you know, some pretty good quarterback play, but when I watched Trey Lance play, I mean, because I'm looking at the backups because they're getting opportunities because we're still evaluating at this point. I thought Trey Lance was great at using his legs and getting out there. He had some great throws, bro. He looked like he could be, you know, a special type of player, but for whatever reason, it just hadn't really panned out for him, but it's good to see him get out there and make some throws, use his legs to make plays and extend plays.

9:03Shannon Sharpe:But outside of that, it's hard to really make a huge assessment. I mean, we don't really have a lot of the starters playing, a lot of the key guys who are going to be taking the ball a minute. Right now, we got guys still trying to make the team. Yeah. Yeah. I think the thing is people forget that Mac Jones led a team to the playoffs his rookie year. He had an outstanding rookie year, made the Pro Bowl. Obviously, things happened. Josh McDaniel ends up leaving and taking the job at the Raiders. Now they bring in two former coordinators that's never been an offensive coordinator. One's been a defensive coordinator.

9:36Shannon Sharpe:The other was a special teams coach. So that was unfamiliar territory for them. And I don't think it set Mac Jones up for success. And he was never the same after that. They ended up benching him and going back to Bailey Zappi and back and forth and eventually Bailey Zappi ended up keeping the job. But I thought he did some of the things that, he had a drop. Yeah. But Martinez, I thought Martinez. Martinez made some throws that are in the NFL. That dart that he threw in that bang, Ocho, for that touchdown, that's an NFL throw.

10:13Joe Johnson:Oh yeah, absolutely. He missed it because he had it early

10:15Shannon Sharpe:and the guy dropped it. And then he came back and he threw it on the other side and he got it for a touchdown. Yeah. So that, Ulu, Ulu, Ungaleli, he spent like 12 years in college. So, you know, he should be a college professor instead of playing in the NFL. Trey Lance, look, I think the thing is, is that the expectations. When you, I don't think he did himself any favors. You remember, Ocho, he had that one great year at North Dakota State. Yes. Then COVID happened. He sits out that entire season, and then he comes out in the draft. So he only played like 15, 16 games. Yes, sir. That's not a whole lot.

10:52Shannon Sharpe:Now, everybody said, well, Cam Newton only played like 15 games. Yeah, but come on now. One guy's playing in the SEC with all top flight competition, and the other guy's playing in FCS, both subdivisions. I love it. And I think the thing is now the weight and the expectations, he's not thought of as being a savior. When they trade the draft capital that they traded to get this young man, you already know. And it's already pressure on, especially a quarterback. There's always pressure on a first-round draft pick. there's exponentially more pressure when they trade that level of draft capital they zoom up the draft to take you third what and the success that Kyle Shanahan had had with some of the quarterbacks that didn't have the name some of them guys were free agents so I just thought that was a little much for him, Justin Herbert didn't play much, Brock Purdy was 4 of 6 for 29 yards, look when you only got three quarterbacks, they're going to be three quarterbacks on the team.

11:50Shannon Sharpe:I think Martinez, his arm talent is just unbenounced. Man, if Matt Jones had a Martinez arm, because his accuracy is crazy. You remember when he was at Alabama when he had those weapons around him? He was phenomenal. Yes. Now, he did have, you know, you look what he had around him. He had Devontae Smith. He had Waddle. He had the running back, Najee Harris in the backfield. They were loaded. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, he held a fork up last year when Purdy was out, though. Oh, yeah, that's why they gave a little extra money to stay. He probably could, yeah. It was sometimes, look at what Sam Donald did.

12:29Shannon Sharpe:Went, rehabilitated himself. Yes. Go get another job, boom. Look at Daniel Jones, what did he do? Go rehabilitated himself, go get him another job. Matt Jones says, you know what? I like this. Brock Purdy was at the 49ers, played that one game, showed enough, goes to Minnesota, did what he did in Minnesota, goes to the Seahawks, wins the Super Bowl. So I agree with you guys. It's really hard to tell. But I'm just looking at, don't play down. Even though those are the backup guys, and we know some of these guys are not going to be on the team, I don't want you to play down to the level of the competition.

13:09Shannon Sharpe:I want you to play up, play above the competition. And I thought some of the throws that Martinez made, yeah, he made a horrible throw, got a pick six. He had two interceptions. But some of the throws that, you know, I'm looking more at some of the throws that he made. I think we can coach him up and say, look, son, you can't throw that. I mean, you telegraphed that. That dude saw that coming yesterday.

13:31Joe Johnson:Oh, yeah.

13:31Shannon Sharpe:He was just waiting on it. Yeah. He was waiting on that. 49ers was sensational. they had Sincere McCormick, Khalil Herbert, and Adrian Martinez. If Adrian Martinez, I think that's the guy. He went to Nebraska, if I'm not mistaken. I think he played at Nebraska. Didn't he play at Nebraska, Ash? But –

13:51Joe Johnson:Angel Martinez.

13:52Shannon Sharpe:41-17. 49ers. 49ers. Look. Okay. Okay. He started at Nebraska and then went to Kansas State, right? Okay. Okay. I thought that name familiar. Look, I think the 49ers are going to be there. Look, they get Bosa back. They get their leader back, Fred Warner. The thing that concerns me about them, Ocho, is the secondary. And that's kind of been that. And maybe the secondary was a little out of it because they couldn't generate the pressure that they once could when they had Bosa and they had those Leonard Floyds and they had those guys outside like that. and Buck that ended up he's at the Colts now.

14:37Shannon Sharpe:But if they can get some pressure and not have to tax that secondary, I think offensively, we know Kyle Shanahan can dial it up. He's going to be able to dial it up. And I think it's going to be interesting to see what the Chargers, what they're going to be able to do with the running game. They should be able to run the ball. I like the guy they had last year. I think it's blue. Defensively, they're going to be good. They're going to be good again. And Harbaugh, you want to think about Harbaugh, you know he's a coach that likes physicality. They believe in playing physical brand of football. I believe they'll play that brand of football again.

15:11Shannon Sharpe:But this is not an easy division that they're in. You got Bo Nix, my homeboy comes back. So it's going to be very, very interesting to see how these two teams fare. But I can see both teams making the playoffs. I would not be surprised if both teams make the playoffs. What you thinking?

15:28Joe Johnson:You think so?

15:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I can see both teams making the playoffs.

15:33Joe Johnson:I mean I can

15:37Shannon Sharpe:because both I believe both teams go get exemplary quarterback play yeah

15:41Joe Johnson:without that you

15:42Shannon Sharpe:ain't got no chance at the playoffs

15:43Joe Johnson:yeah well without that you don't have a chance but also I mean can the 49ers stay healthy and I'm speaking I'm speaking defensively and offensively that's been one of their issues you know throughout the years you know a lot of people complaining about you know what's next the practice facility and maybe that is some indication on why players continue to get hurt there. But listen, they're on grass right now. They're not on turf. And players are still dropping like flies, which is unfortunate. I know injuries are a part of the game, but at some point we have to get a little bit more realistic with ourselves.

16:17Joe Johnson:It just happens, and it happens at the most unopportune times. It's unfortunate, but I think for them to have success this year, they're going to have to stay injury-free, Especially on the defensive side of the ball.

16:30Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. So these teams, the 49ers don't typically play on grass, Uncle Ocho?

16:37Joe Johnson:Yeah, they do. Don't they? Do they? Yeah. Okay. They play on grass. Yeah, Joe, I'm just speaking in general. If you look around the league, I don't know what it looks like, but just the number of injuries during training camp. And everybody is on grass in training camp.

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16:54Shannon Sharpe:Okay, I see what you're saying.

16:56Joe Johnson:Yeah. So, you know, that's all.

16:58Shannon Sharpe:But I'm saying, is it a huge difference, though, from playing on grass and playing on turf?

17:03Joe Johnson:I think, I mean, you know what, Shannon? I mean, Shannon. Unc would be better at addressing that, Joe, because for someone like myself that played on turf the majority of my career in Cincinnati, having one, I think maybe one year, Unc, I think when I was with Dick LeBeau. Dick LeBeau, we had grass at that time. and then they change it. But I didn't really care, Joe. The surface was really no concern of mine. So, I mean, Unc would be better suited to answer that question.

17:33Shannon Sharpe:For me, Joe, it is because grass is more forgiving. Obviously, now you see a lot of these non-contact injuries, and I don't know what's the rise of the non-contact. I don't remember when I played, and maybe it's kind of like a lot of things. They track more things now than they did when we played, Ocho. They track everything. When you got injured, what time of day you got injured, what turf, what type of field you was on, was it artificial turf, was it, you know, the field turf, was it natural grass. The 49ers, their home stadium is natural grass. And you can have natural grass for the most part.

18:09Shannon Sharpe:The weather is ideal in California. Now you're going to get some rain. And so I don't know how many, I don't think they have any college games in that stadium, maybe a bowl game, something like that. But I don't know how much tractor pulls and things of that nature they have that's also wearing on the turf that you'd have to worry about. But in New York, it's kind of hard. It's a lot of maintenance when you have natural grass because you have to have that heating. You have to have heaters in there. You have to have a lot of stuff to make sure that everything is – come game day, it's ready to go.

18:43Shannon Sharpe:For me, I think it is, Joe. I know it is artificial turf. Now, nobody has artificial turf now. Not everybody plays on field turf or they play on natural grass. They've done away completely, if I'm not mistaken, with all artificial turf on all 32 teams. But they used to be because it was just concrete. It was just, you know, a carpet laid over concrete. It was hard. And I don't know how Barry Neves held up the way they did playing on that when he was in the dome. But for me, I think it is. I do think it is a big difference between playing on grass, field turf, and artificial turf.

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22:26Shannon Sharpe:The Raiders beat the Texans 22-20. Fernando Mendoza struggled in the second preseason game, throwing an interception that used to return for a touchdown. Mendoza's third pass was overthrown. Wade Woodass returned at 80 yards. Mendoza chased him down but Woodass shoved the side and ended up getting into the end zone for 80 yard pick six. Mendoza in the first half 8 of 15 for 86 yards. Me? I understand. Look, I understand the interception and Ocho, you know this. You can't be laid over the middle. You can't be laid outside because that's going to the house. every time a high rate of speed every time he's going to the house with that but he made some throws that i'll say okay he has it yeah he made some throws that that leads me to believe i'm not overly concerned about him i know it didn't have the best numbers tonight but he showed me to he showed me enough in the throws that he did make i'm like okay you know

23:29Joe Johnson:and that's that's what it comes down to uncle joe when you see young player joe sometimes Most of the time you can see a young player on the court, especially when it's live with some of the veterans trying to make a team, and you can see flashes of, okay, you know what, he actually belongs here. Now, what you're also going to see when it comes to a rookie, Joe, you're going to see those mistakes. And that's what you saw from Mendoza tonight. Obviously, he has the arm talent. He can make some of the throws. The problem is it comes down to ball placement. It comes down to anticipating those throws, and it also comes down to processing and understanding that ball has to get out a step sooner.

24:03Joe Johnson:a tad bit senior and he will learn that as time goes on and he will speed everything up you know to be able to rectify those situations I mean those errors that he had tonight but he he's going to be one of the ones this is why I'm always against and letting the rookie come in and start especially on the team that was so bad they were so bad last year where they were they were they had the ability to get the number one pick unless he lights is unless he's lights above everyone else at his respective position. Now, if he was Patrick Mahomes, you know what? Boom. Cool. Start him as a rookie. You know, because he has the talent and he has the vision, the ability to process everything much faster and make the players around him better.

24:44Joe Johnson:You know, if he was one of them, yes, but no.

24:47Shannon Sharpe:Yes, especially if he has the talent around him to support him.

24:51Joe Johnson:You gotta realize, even though Patrick

24:53Shannon Sharpe:Mahomes came in, Mahome boy didn't start.

24:56Joe Johnson:Yeah, he didn't. And think about they had Kelsey.

24:59Shannon Sharpe:They had a reek that was still there. Yeah. So with that being said, I think the thing is I agree with you, Ocho. Joe, what do you want to say about what you saw from Fernando Mendoza? Man, I like Mendoza. You know, Ocho, this is the kind of preseason game where, you know, it's a learning curve for all these rookies, bro. He shows some great throws. but when you look at it, it's a huge contrast from his first preseason game to the second one. See, the first one he played against the Cardinals. They don't have to pass rush the type of defense that the Houston – these boys, he ain't playing. They getting right after you.

25:40Shannon Sharpe:So I think Mendoza is going to be great. I'm like you. After he threw that pick, he showed me something because he stepped right back in there and got right back to it, bro. And that's what you want to see from a rookie. I think a pick six is probably one of the worst things that can happen to you as a rookie. Hey, demoralizing. Demoralizing, boy. You know why, though? Not only do you throw the pick six, but you get the damn ball right back. You know what I mean? So you got to get back out there and get right to it. But I thought he showed some promise. The Texans, hey, man, if C.J. Stroud can stay upright, fellas, he can give them just some decent quarterback play.

26:14Shannon Sharpe:Hey. Hey, boy, they in there.

26:17Joe Johnson:Hey, honestly, Uncle Joe, speaking of the Texans, They have a window. That window was wide open last year. If they could have just got some quarterback play, Joe, I think defensively, they might have been ranked second or third in almost every single category. Every single category, which means all we needed was a little bit of, you know, decency offensively from our quarterback. And, boy, if you had had a chance to get to the Super Bowl, you would have been all right.

26:46Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

26:47Joe Johnson:Hey. And. But hey, what they, hey, and Joe, that last game in the playoffs, what they had, four or five turnovers?

26:54Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

26:54Joe Johnson:It was bad, Ocho.

26:55Shannon Sharpe:We had like three in the first half. Oof. It was bad. And what I think was a pick six. You can't turn the ball over like that. You can't win like that. It's hard for you to over, it's hard no matter how great your defense is, no matter how great one side of the ball is. Yeah. If the other side is as inept as you are good, it's kind of hard now. Once upon a time, you could have a bad offense and an outstanding defense, and you could overcome it. It's always been hard for you to overcome a bad defense, even if you had a really great offense. Because when you least expect it, you struggle just a little bit, and you can't stop anybody, and now the opposing team is going up and down the field on you.

27:39Shannon Sharpe:So it's always kind of been skewed, well, we need to have an outstanding defense, and we can have a margin. If we can run the football, play defense behind it, be sound in the kicking game, we'll be just fine. That ain't no more. Since they've changed the rules, they don't let you play defense, which is an intimidation factor like they once did. That rule no longer holds. But CJ's going to have to be better. CJ's going into his fourth year. Normally quarterbacks, when they're sure about you going into your fourth year, you know what you get, Joe? $300 million. Yes, sir. The mere fact that he's playing this fourth year and he doesn't, they're not where they need to be on it.

28:15Shannon Sharpe:They're like, okay, we like what we saw the first year. We love what we saw the first year. The second year, the third year, like, ugh. You got to show us something. You're going to need to show us something, CJ, in order for us to commit to you the$300 million that you see these other quarterbacks, the Mahomes, the Josh Allens, the Joe Burrows, the Trevor Lawrences. You're going to have to show us. That's a lot of – because they got big-time commitments. The defense, you know, they paid Will Anderson Jr. They paid the other guy on the other side, Daniil Hunter. They played Stingley. They played Lazard of Pete.

28:56Shannon Sharpe:They paid Aziz. They paid a lot of guys. Hey, he not only got to show something, he got to show consistency, fellas. Yes. They need consistent. Not just, you know, you play great one game and then two games you're off. You know what I mean? Like, they need that consistent quarterback play. I'm talking about to be able to win a Super Bowl. Like, they have the defense for it. They just got to get the quarterback play right, bro. Hey, Houston's serious, bro.

29:24Joe Johnson:Yeah, and they got all the weapons, too. I know they just lost Higgins, you know, to an ACL injury. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not sure if they're bringing another veteran presence to come in there made me feel that void because Higgins was a very strong number two. He came on really strong towards the end of the season last year. So, you know, you got Tank Dale back who's looked good all camp. Obviously, Nico Collins, one of the better receivers in the NFL. So there really shouldn't be any excuses. You got David Montgomery out there in the backfield now from Detroit to take some of that pressure off of you, you know, being able to run the ball.

29:57Joe Johnson:So you got to sit back there and throw it 60 times a game. So it ain't no excuses. This is their year. can you be consistent? Not only that, but be consistent when it matters most. All the top quarterbacks, they're paying the big bucks for a reason. Because when it matters most, they can get us over the hump.

30:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Hey, y 'all ain't going to... Mendoza's going to be alright because y 'all know he got a decent run game. Y 'all ain't going to say nothing about Mike Washington Jr. breaking. He had 56 yards, 9 carries. He played well the first game. Hey Joe, that number 30? Is he number 30?

30:35Joe Johnson:I think he is number 30. Mike Washington, he's number 30, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that boy Tony. How you know him, Joe? What, he from Arkansas?

30:42Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he a hog, man, he a hog. You know, it ain't but a few of us, Ocho, so we gotta keep up with him, make sure they, you know what I mean, doing what they supposed to be doing, but he ain't doing his thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they got Rike's brother, that's Rike Ogunbowale. Yeah. That's her brother. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. Okay. But Houston running the football with Woody Marks. You know, as Ocho mentioned, they got David Montgomery. Hutchinson played well for him last year. Played well for him last year. So I'm not overly concerned about the skill position around CJ. I'm just worried about CJ.

31:19Shannon Sharpe:I just need CJ to play like he did his rookie season. But sometimes I think he started reading the press, I think, because we hadn't seen a rookie play that well because he was phenomenal. There ain't no ifs and or buts about it, no maybes. He played phenomenal. And I think he started listening to the press, started reading. Right. We say press clippings, but he started listening at social media. Everybody was telling him how great he was. And he started to feel like he was great. Because here he is in this second year telling, hey, if you need anything, hey, holler at your boy. You know, I got you.

31:48Shannon Sharpe:Huh? Hey, he thought he had it figured out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, boy, this game will humble you. Just when you think it's figured out, you got it figured out.

31:56Joe Johnson:Quick. Quick.

31:58Shannon Sharpe:Okay.

31:59Joe Johnson:Quick. Yeah. Every week is a different challenge, Joe. Every week is a different challenge. I can imagine, bro. I can imagine.

32:06Shannon Sharpe:Especially, I think especially from being a quarterback because you're going to see so many different covers and looks and you got to identify them and be able to process them on the fly and be able to make plays. I know that's tough, bro. Yeah. You got a lot on your plate. You got a lot on your plate. And because you have the ball on every single play for the most part, nobody really does the wildcat. Every once in a while, they'll bring somebody in there to do a quarterback sneak or something like that. But for the most part, of 65 plays, you're going to probably have the ball in your hand somewhere between 63 and 64 times the ball game.

32:38Shannon Sharpe:And so the light shines the brightest on you. That's why you make the big bucks. There ain't no, well, I wonder why he makes so much money. Because he's under the most scrutiny. He's under the most pressure. in office it's like you can tell who's in charge I can go in the office and I take everything down off the wall I'm like oh he got the biggest office whoever's in here that's who's in charge yeah okay who has the ball the most in their hands that's who has the most responsibility okay this is why they pay him the big bucks

33:16Joe Johnson:and whoever's in charge and has the ball in their hands the most has a better chance to dictate the outcome of games.

33:24Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely.

33:25Joe Johnson:And that's where they get the big bucks.

33:28Shannon Sharpe:Yes, yes. But look, he's heard everything. I mean, think about it, Ocho, Joe. Man, that man heard that thing. He heard the noise so much. That man cut his hair. Yeah. Fact. That man cut his hair, Joe, Ocho. Cut it.

33:42Joe Johnson:Yeah.

33:44Shannon Sharpe:I'm surprised he didn't pull an Ocho and cut it all off.

33:46Joe Johnson:Nah, nah. Listen, he might have been going for a new look, cleaning himself up as a face of the franchise. Give him something else to look at.

33:56Shannon Sharpe:He just needs to play better. I don't care what your hair look like. You can have dreads. You can have predator dreads. I don't care nothing about your hair. It used to be the quarterback, he had to present himself and had to look a certain way. You know what I'm saying? I don't care nothing about that. Can you get us in and out of the huddle? Can you process information in a hurry? Can you deliver the football? Yes. That's all I care about. All that other stuff, how you look and how you talk and all that, that's going to, you know, if advertisers and sponsors, they might have a problem with that.

34:31Shannon Sharpe:I don't. That's secondary. That's auxiliary to me. Your number one goal as a quarterback is to help us win football games. Now, if advertisers and endorsers and sponsors and all that other stuff come along, bless your heart. but just make sure you get us in and out of the huddle in a timely manner make sure you deliver the football in a timely manner that's all I care about I don't care nothing about that I really don't but CJ did he had one drive the guy that went down the field got a touchdown he got up out of there David Mills comes in David Mills plays really well remember David Mills played well when CJ went out

35:10Joe Johnson:when he went down he had a good five six game stretch boy

35:16Shannon Sharpe:And then Brett Rippitt, he ended up fairly coming in. He's played before. He was in Denver. I think he went to see – I don't know where he went after he left Denver. But he played – he could make some plays. Hopefully, I don't have to get to my third. If I got to get to my third quarterback, I'm in trouble, Ocho. Yes, sir. I'm in trouble. I'm in trouble. Ain't no sense in me holding you. If I have to get to my third quarterback, I'm in trouble. Yeah.

35:46Joe Johnson:Hey, them injuries go to pile enough here. You never know, Ocho. It's tough, man. Listen, the more those injuries pile up, the more difficult it is on the coaches. Because you're two and you're three for a reason.

36:01Shannon Sharpe:The NFL find Cowboys and Saints$500 ,000 each for what it called actions that took place in the joint practice between the teams earlier this week. The competition committee has made sportsmanship, including at joint practices, a point of emphasis over the past several years. All clubs were reminded by a memo prior to training camp of their responsibilities in preventing unsportsmanlike behavior at joint practices that had the potential to result in injuries. But anyway, Jerry Jones said the Cowboys will internally find players they deem responsible for the$500 ,000 organizational fine handed down by the NFL.

36:40Shannon Sharpe:That's not what the NFL intended to do. intended that to do where they found a team. Then you try to go back there and be like, well, you started it. You started it. But I'm going to go to you, Joe, first because this is your team. You say, hey, we ready this year. Yeah. Hey, man, listen, ain't nothing but a little broad, but I kind of understand where – you know, I don't want to say I understand where Jerry's coming from. Jerry's just doubling down here. You know, he feel like it probably wasn't any of the key guys. So, you know what I'm saying? So you kind of got to make a point for these guys who just joined the team or whatnot.

37:14Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. But, hey, man, he obviously didn't take too liking of it. But the NFL say, damn, we're going to crack down on this. We're going to stop all this. But how do you stop that, man? It's a gladiator sport. We lock it up every damn play.

37:26Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, what you mean? How you going to stop it? They showed you how they're going to stop it. We're going to take the one thing that they think we all value most, your money. You hit somebody's pocket, Joe, what's the first thing they do? They get in line. They get in line. that's including the owners and the owners gonna get that message down they're gonna it's gonna trigger down from the top hey get your players together because now you're costing me now if anybody do anything outside of that and they do it again after we already told them okay we taking their money and once they once once they instill that man them boys ain't gonna do nothing joe

37:56Shannon Sharpe:man they care too much about that check they love 500k ain't done nothing to them damn owners pocket

38:01Joe Johnson:man you know how much that is to them wait a minute what is 500k to our owner nothing

38:07Shannon Sharpe:Nothing. But see, the thing is, they creepy. And then, because see what's going to happen, you're going to mess around and get somebody's best, one of their best players. Go ahead and tell you to break a hand or something going to happen, and then uh-oh ain't going to help you. Because I'm a firm believer. Player get injured, do something cheap. Whoever, he got to miss as much time until that guy comes back, you out. Until my guy comes back, they got injured, something happened to him, Joe? Right. that's how long you got to sit out and you'll stop that foolishness I'm not surprised by this it's not a good look but the NFL is about optics the NFL is very reactionary they're not normally proactive they'll listen to the voices of social media and everybody on the outside they'll hear what they're saying and then they'll react to that you see hey bro this ain't been going on uh the dolphins and somebody got into a fight today

39:10Joe Johnson:oh yeah yeah yeah but you know well hold on one thing though uncle joe you got to remember that saints cowboys practice yeah it was like five or six brawls yeah so i think that's why the nfl stepped in because they had so many in one joint practice now the dolphins the dolphins had a bro they just had they had one big one exactly yeah but having it having five or six Now that's diabolical.

39:31Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hold up, hold up, hold up. You can't determine. Now just because one team had five brawls and one had one, hell, you done fired them. You got to hand down 500 ,000 a piece.

39:40Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, you got to. Hey, Joe, them boys only out there on the field for an hour and 20 minutes. Hey, if you got five brawls, that mean, you know, I mean, shoot, that's a brawl every, every, what you call it? Not session, what you call it? Seven on seven.

39:56Shannon Sharpe:Basically, because you out there, you got five. So basically damn near every other period you fight. Yeah, that's what I was looking for. Hey, you can't get nothing done out there. Good guys. That's exactly what coach is going to be saying. Damn, what we going to get done today? Are we going to be able to get anything done today?

40:12Joe Johnson:Mm-mm. You don't get nothing done, but we know who can fight.

40:16Shannon Sharpe:Exactly.

40:16Joe Johnson:And that ain't going to help us on Sunday.

40:18Shannon Sharpe:You on the wrong sport, son. You need to be in the MMA or you need to be in boxing.

40:21Joe Johnson:Yeah.

40:23Shannon Sharpe:But we play football out here. but you know sometimes guys fight when they want to get out of practice hold on hold on hold on they carry it off the field no you get out of practice take it in son we don't get anything done with you out here fighting so they get to head to the showers hold on hold on hold on so I know y 'all got guys because I know I done had this happen plenty of times on teams I done played no more a guy come in maybe he a little too drunk he be like Jay I ain't got it today I'm gonna act a fool, let coach go and throw me out this mug so I can go and hit the shower. Nah, we ain't wrong.

41:00Shannon Sharpe:Hell nah. That ain't happened. I'm trying to think. Maybe once or twice we had guys get kicked out of practice for fighting, but they really didn't like each other anyway. They were just looking for a little reason to talk. A little leeway. Yeah, they're talking about, hey, don't block me. Bro, you a D-line, but I'm an offensive line. What the hell you mean, don't block you? What the hell am I supposed to do? Let you just come in here and wreck practice? Hey, Lizzie. See, the difference here in basketball, see, the way we start practicing, Uncle Ocho, we start with so much damn running. Three-man weave.

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44:51Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man. Jimmy Johnson woke up this morning and chose violence. He posted a picture of a photo of a clog in his first contract with Jerry Jones referencing personnel control. Jerry, you know, Jerry's been saying it was him in the Hershel Walker. It was him doing all this. Y 'all can read the contract.

45:11Joe Johnson:Wait, he really posted.

45:12Shannon Sharpe:No assistant football coaches, trainer, equipment man, and strength coach shall be fired or employed by employer without prior approval of Johnson. Johnson shall have the right of prior approval with respects to acquisitions, releasing and trading all football players of the Dallas Cowboys. Johnson shall have complete control of all assistant coaches, players, trainers, and equipment men during training, practice, preparation for actual playing of games, notwithstanding the foregoing of neither assistant coaches, players.

45:44Joe Johnson:I have a question, huh? What made Jimmy Johnson do this?

45:47Shannon Sharpe:Because Jerry Jones keeps saying it was him that made the trade for Herschel Walker. He keeps saying it. Jimmy said, I had final say. This is why Jerry ultimately fired Jerry. Right. Because Jimmy had complete autonomy.

46:08Hold on.

46:09Shannon Sharpe:I thought they settled their differences with the Ring of Honor stuff. No, because Jerry won't keep saying it was him. He keeps saying the trade that he made for Hershel Walker, that he traded Hershel Walker. Jimmy made that trade. Because, see, if you let it – see, here's the thing. This is what we know. A fire cannot burn without oxygen. If people keep – if Jerry keep his mouth shut, Jimmy not going to let it go. Yeah. All Jimmy had to do was toast Jerry. That's all he had to do. But first of all, he wasn't even invited to the party. That was the coaches. Jimmy invited the coaches. Jerry invited himself.

46:55Shannon Sharpe:Cheers. Everybody toasted.

47:01Shannon Sharpe:Jimmy mean mugging.

47:06Shannon Sharpe:That's how it started.

47:10Joe Johnson:That's ego. That's ego and pride. That's ego and pride. Jerry Knight.

47:15Shannon Sharpe:You were really young, but you don't realize how much credit. Jimmy was thought of as Lombardi of Walsh. For real? Yes. That team was 1-15. Think about it. He took Troy Aikman. Michael Irvin was already there. So Michael came in 88. He came in the draft with my brother and Tim Brown. All those receivers came out that year. And then he goes get Emmitt. Then he gets Russell Maryland. All those guys that were coming out, Jimmy had just left the University of Miami. He tried to recruit them. He knew what he needed. Right. All his coaches, they came from the U with him. Harold Hubbard and Wanstead, all those guys.

47:59Joe Johnson:Hey, Dave Wanstead was there? Yeah, Dave Wanstead, yeah. I ain't know that.

48:05Shannon Sharpe:Okay. See, Jimmy, I think Wanstead might have been with Jimmy when Jimmy was at Pitt. All them guys. So Jerry keeps saying, because see, Jerry keeps trying to reshape history. Jerry wants credit for that. That's why he keeps saying. Remember, he had the Michael trade. Reminds me of the trade I did for Herschel. And Jimmy was like, you didn't make that trade for Herschel. I traded Herschel. I realized, yes, he was good, but he wasn't going to help us. We needed something long term. So that's why Jimmy Jimmy went and got the contract. Jimmy said look at it. What does that say? Oh he said at Oklahoma State

48:54but

48:57Shannon Sharpe:he had his contract. So all this all this notion. See Jerry Jerry when he came into the league the person that he learned to be an owner was Al Davis. This is how Al was. Al would have never gave nobody that kind of control. Absolutely not.

49:20Joe Johnson:And he don't care what nobody say about him?

49:24Shannon Sharpe:Man, I told you the man fired Mike and went and paid the rest of his money. You know the money guarantee. He said, I tell you what, I'll pay you. But you can't go coach for the Broncos. Nah, he said, as a matter of fact, I just ain't going to pay you. and he said by the time you take me to court you'll be spent more money than what i owe you so take me to court damn yeah that's rest his soul but every time if he liked you every time he come up to you he'd say you you want to be a raider

49:59Shannon Sharpe:but that was uh because when i first got to the league ojo they were playing in the coliseum in LA.

50:05Joe Johnson:Yeah, where USC played.

50:07Shannon Sharpe:Yes, yes, they were in the Coliseum. And all those like James Garner, Rockford Fowler, all the celebs, and they would have on silver and black. Just like Al Davis. Al normally, Al always wore white. But the celebs would have on silver and black. They were diehard Raider fans. And standing out in the tunnel, and man, I remember when I first came, and the Raiderettes, I'm like oh my I'm in the NFL I'm like man I done made it and you see the celebs standing in the tunnel and they're like damn and all the old guards you see Willie Willie Brown and you see Jack Tatum and you see Tendrix and you see all those old Raiders you're like

50:51Joe Johnson:damn that would have been dope

50:54Shannon Sharpe:okay okay this is pretty cool but Jimmy like you said Ocho both of these guys have egos. Both of these guys do you realize Ocho they were college roommates? In Arkansas? Yes. Wait a minute. How the hell do you even get this bad now? They were college roommates because Jimmy Johnson Jerry Jones the J's. It wasn't like they chose to be roommates their last name put them in it's like Chad Johnson and Joe Johnson. There's a good chance you guys gonna be roommates. There's a good chance you gonna have that influence on Joe, and we already know how Ocho get down pretty soon. That's what Joe is doing.

51:38Shannon Sharpe:Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Behind closed doors, nobody knows what it is. Hey, hey, hey, I've been to whoop Ocho ass when you was in the same damn room.

51:47Joe Johnson:Damn, back door Joe. Why you gonna be violent? Hey, you gotta chill.

51:52Shannon Sharpe:You gotta chill. Damn, back door.

51:54Joe Johnson:Why you gonna be violent? Hey, Joe, hey, I call in peace. They just call the man back door. Yeah, I come in peace, Joe. I don't know, bro.

52:01Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, we will be fighting, but let me tell you what we will be doing. What? We would have a mean dice game going. Let me tell you something, when I was in college, the dice games was in my room, Ocho. Yeah. The dice games was in my room, me and my roommate. Boy, we held down the mean dice game, boy. What's up, y 'all play CeeLo, or y 'all play with two dice? Nah, we play with two dice. Two dice. Yeah, we play with two dice. I don't know what you talking about, no CeeLo. Say, I ain't come up with all that. I ain't up on CeeLo like that either, Joe. Give me them two dice. Yeah, give me them two dice.

52:30Shannon Sharpe:Okay, okay. Yes, sir.

52:32Joe Johnson:I'm just checking.

52:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But you would think, man, everybody know, Jimmy should have been in the ring of fame. Hold on, he, oh, the Dallas ring. They put him in there a couple years ago, but he should have been in there. Yeah. Right. Behind Tom Landry, he the greatest coach the Cowboys have ever had. Man, come on, man. Y 'all know Jerry. Hey, y 'all know how Jerry operates. See, Jerry thought it was him. He realized now he started to realize coaching is it matters. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Does he? You think he realized that now? No, hell no. Hell no, he don't.

53:07Joe Johnson:Because he hasn't changed. He hasn't changed. Hey, Joe, that's your owner though.

53:14Shannon Sharpe:Hey, that's our owner, bro. That's your owner. He the GM, the owner, he the damn coach. He all that. That man ain't finna put nobody in charge who he think gonna overrule to try to override anything he got to say or do, partner. No, he want the credit. Well, you got to get the credit, huh? See, that's what he want, Joe. See, the thing was, man, ain't nobody was mentioning Jerry Jones. Everybody was talking about Jimmy. Everybody was talking about Jimmy. Jimmy got there a year before I arrived. Jimmy got there in 89 with Troy. They drafted Troy in 89. I came in the league in 90, and I saw the rise of what they came to be.

53:50Shannon Sharpe:and had he left well enough alone had he had the smarts that Mr. Krabs had. Y 'all don't think Mr. Krabs, there's some things that probably Coach Belichick said and did that rubbed Mr. Krabs the wrong way up. Absolutely. But he's smart enough to understand let me ride this train as far as it can go and as far as it can go with six Super Bowl with nine Super Bowl appearances. That's crazy.

54:19Joe Johnson:Imagine if they had won all nine.

54:21Shannon Sharpe:Lord have mercy Ocho

54:26Joe Johnson:Boy especially

54:27Shannon Sharpe:But that's the thing Jerry Jerry just couldn't let it go I want to get the credit You don't realize how good something Can be until it's gone

54:36Joe Johnson:Yeah that too That too

54:37Shannon Sharpe:You don't care who gets the credit Ocho

54:40Joe Johnson:Yeah

54:45Shannon Sharpe:Jerry wanted it Jimmy said nah let me go Now you see what happens Uh-oh, Ocho, y 'all in trouble. Joe Burrow spoke to the media today and said it's now or never for the Bengals. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. I'm trying to put it out into the world. I'm trying to manifest it. I'm trying to show our guys the urgency that I have

55:09Joe Johnson:and that I want us to have as an organization to go and make it happen. You can keep pushing it down the road or you can talk about it now and say this is the year and you know i'm tired of saying next year next year next year this is this is it uh you know your life is too short to to keep pushing things down the road and um i'm trying to instill some urgency and some intensity in everybody to go and get be great every day and try to go make it happen i like that that can be that can be taken many way too i'm gonna i'm gonna take it as a way for one is as I don't know how you would look at it uh like listen organizationally this is the warning this is the warning and he said it last year too when he was frustrated as well something similar to this but the words were a little different but words have meaning always it's like it's like a puzzle sometimes you got to piece together what players are trying to say what he can also be doing is motivating those in that locker room not only offensively but defensively he can be doing that and to take it a step further he's also adding more fuel to the fire on himself as well yeah because of the injuries you know so now as much as i love joe burrow that's my quarterback joe that's my quarterback huh but now not only are you adding more fuel to the fire now you have to play up the park consistently week in and week out yes you're gonna have mistakes yes you're gonna have error errors you know it's a part of the game but you have to play up and beyond week in and week out and be the reasons why we're winning games which you hit what you have been in the past you know along with the supporting cast that you do have but i think the continuous it's not lashing out it's just expressing yourself and answering questions that are that are asked to you through the media is it adds more pressure unnecessary pressure not on just the team in general because that pressure is already there no matter what but also yourself because anytime you don't play well anytime you don't play up the park they're gonna go right back to these videos and some of the things that are said.

57:19Joe Johnson:Well, you said this, but you're playing like that. Yep.

57:24Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is, Ocho, is that look, you play with a quarterback that says, you know what, I'm tired of y 'all. Y 'all won't do right. I refuse to play here anymore.

57:35Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, he retired. He said he refused to come back and retire, Joe. Come on, Carson, formal? Yeah, what? Carson, yeah, until they gave him. Did they have to give up his rights? They traded him.

57:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they traded him. Yeah, until they traded him. It was that bad?

57:51Joe Johnson:Yeah. Yeah, Joe, it was bad. Joe, you thought I was lying when I said I only had one win the season? No, I know it got to be bad.

57:57Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Joe Burrow, he's sick of losing, bro. He want this team to reach his expectations. He understands that, you know, they have a small window with their wide receiving core that he has out there. He want to try to make the most of it, bro. I can kind of, I can see the frustration in his face. I can hear it in his voice. He want to win, Uncle Ocho.

58:17Joe Johnson:Yeah.

58:17Shannon Sharpe:He tired of talking about it.

58:19Joe Johnson:Hell, I want to win too, Joe. I'm not even playing. I want us to win, you know. But I know one thing, we're not the laughing stock that we once used to be. Chuckling. We're a good team.

58:32Shannon Sharpe:We ain't laughing now, Joe. We chuckling.

58:34Joe Johnson:We chuckling, yeah, yeah.

58:35Shannon Sharpe:You know, but it all comes down to not only injuries, our defense, you know,

58:39Joe Johnson:it was atrocious. Uncle Joe, I think statistically last year, we might have been damn near at, what, 28th in almost every category. Stopping the pass, stopping the run, everything. Everything. So maybe this is the year. You know, we made the necessary improvements. Management showed Joe that they are taking it serious and trying to turn this thing around and give you a competent team, you know, to win. You know, that big dance. So now that they've done their part defensively with what they've done, now you got to put up. Now it's your turn. Yeah. Now it's your turn. So now the pressure is on you.

59:15Joe Johnson:So all Mike Brown did was say, you know what? Okay, I heard you loud and clear. So this is what I'm going to do for you. I'm going to give you Dexter Lawrence. Huh? I'm going to give you Brother Allen over there from the commanders. I'm going to give you Mr. Cook over there from the Chiefs.

59:29Shannon Sharpe:Yep.

59:31Joe Johnson:With the pieces we already have defensively. Very good young talent. Demetrius Knight. Boy, I love you, boy. I need a jersey too when I see you. Now, the onus is on you. We made our play. They playing chess. Your move. And this season is the move. And now you come out and you say some of the things you said today, which can be cryptic, which can be taken any kind of way. Most of the talking heads are those that actually know the game. Unk yourself. I heard Dan Oloski. He said this message says get it together. either we win or i'm out that's how y 'all gonna take it i'm gonna take it multiple ways you know being that i was a player obviously i'm kind of i'm kind of siding with my team in general because that is that is my quarterback but i i think it's unwanted pressure that he's putting on himself because they're going to use these videos they're going to use these messages when things don't go well specifically from him when he doesn't play well yeah so yeah but for the most part he he he

1:00:29Shannon Sharpe:He's held up his end of the bargain. The only thing that he hadn't been able to hold up is his injuries. And he said, I'm getting injured because the sorry-ass offensive line y 'all put around me. That's why I keep getting injured. I don't get injured. It's not like I'm running and getting injured. I'm getting injured, hitting the pocket. Yeah. So y 'all offer me some better protection. And I think, look, I agree with you, Ocho, that the Bengals did. They went out there and they tried to rebound the offensive line. Yeah. If you look at Zach Taylor, he's playing these guys in the preseason because in the past they didn't play in the preseason, even if they're only getting a series or so, that's something.

1:01:04Shannon Sharpe:That's something. Had the guys going out there. Basically, if you don't play an entire preseason, man, I keep telling people, man, practice is practice. You get in game shape by playing in the game.

1:01:18Joe Johnson:Yeah.

1:01:21Shannon Sharpe:It's really that simple. And we're going to – hey, Joe does not want to be – he's like, you know what people think about him. Even though he hasn't won a championship, he's a top five quarterback. On everybody's list, he's top five.

1:01:38Joe Johnson:Easily.

1:01:38Shannon Sharpe:The last thing he wants to have happen, Ocho, is that he goes his career and he doesn't have a championship. He's like, I've been there. Because once you get to that level, what are we actually playing for if we're not trying to get to that level every single year? It's not good enough for Patrick Mahomes to win the division. It's not good enough for him. If he's not playing for Super Bowl, what are we doing? When you go to five in your first seven years, what are we doing? That's, hey, that's different, man. It don't happen like that, bro. No. But when you set that expectation, when you've done this, because the expectation that you've already accomplished, you put that expectation on yourself.

1:02:20Shannon Sharpe:Tom Brady expected after he went to – think about it. His second year, he goes to, he wins, he wins MVP. So now what's the expectation? Super Bowl every year. Yeah. That relentless pursuit. That's what, Ocho, you was there. That's all. If you weren't trying to get better to get to and win a Super Bowl, you couldn't play for Coach Belichick. Because he didn't speak too much. Because everything was about situations. Yeah. He put you to as many situations that he thought could potentially arise in the game. so therefore when it does arise you're not in awe of the moment you don't panic in the moment you don't freeze in the moment oh man i'm ready for football season i know you're gonna be ready

1:03:06Joe Johnson:i know it's gonna be plastered on every every tv tomorrow morning everything he just said you know they everybody gonna have their take on what it means and it's gonna be negative it's some gonna be positive. It's a good thing. You know, we're trying to motivate the players inside the locker room. I'm trying to motivate my offensive players. I'm trying to motivate my defensive players because I'm sick of pushing stuff down the road because, like he said, life is short. Hey, they're going to take

1:03:36Shannon Sharpe:football life is even shorter. Hello. Hey, Ojo, who y 'all open up against? Ojo?

1:03:43Joe Johnson:Tampa Bay, if I'm not mistaken. In Tampa Bay. I could be wrong. Ash, you might be able to correct me if I'm

1:03:48Shannon Sharpe:right but i think it is tamar bay if not mistaken yeah yeah and that listen that's a good test too

1:03:54Joe Johnson:week one to see where you are offensively i don't think you want you don't want that damn test that early do you oh joe yes we do yes we do joe yeah we we are we absolutely do oh yeah i'm studying for it and i know one thing i know i know one thing we need to hit out the gate out of the gate running we need to you know that is what y 'all do i know we always hey joe hey um we always climb my way out the hole that's the problem how do we start fast? you know what I always say how do we start fast the one thing to me that I think if I was Zach Taylor obviously he has the way he wants to run his team the way he wants to is that preseason I'm taking advantage of all of that I need all three of them all three of them using the formula we used when me and Uncle was playing you get you one or two series the first game the second game being that they only have three we gonna play you to halftime and that third one give me to halftime and give me the third quarter

1:04:50Shannon Sharpe:it ain't happening like that though

1:04:52Joe Johnson:absolutely not I just saw come across the tickets the Bengals not even playing the Bengals starters not even playing against the Bears they sitting the starters out for the last preseason game no it's still one more for the second one

1:05:08Shannon Sharpe:if you don't play the last preseason game that's one week and then you don't play the next week, you play the following week. So that's basically two weeks that you out. Like I said, I needed it. Maybe no one else did, but I needed it. I understood. That's why, hey, I ain't never had no problem. Hey, guys, we going to the – I'm a football player. What am I supposed to do, Joe? Yeah, that rhythm and timing. You can't make that up, bro.

1:05:37Joe Johnson:No, and let me tell you something that make it tough to chat. Listen to our schedule, right? we got two very good defenses back to back. September 13th, we got the Bucs, right? Right after the Bucs, why we got Houston? Why after Houston, we got to deal with the Steelers? Then we got Jacksonville, and we got a little breathing room because we got Miami, then we got the bye week. Hey, but look, that's kind of...

1:06:04Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all got y 'all bye week early, Ocho. Y 'all got y 'all bye week the first month of the season.

1:06:07Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, real early.

1:06:09Shannon Sharpe:hey but hey but this sounds that's probably typical by how y 'all started y 'all probably started out by one and four something like that one and three something like that that's how y 'all that's how y 'all normally come out the gate Ocho let no you don't need you looking like that

1:06:21Joe Johnson:y 'all play some tough teams hey you you just heard my quarterback say he tired of that right so I'm let me tell you something I'm expecting based on what he's saying to come out and make

1:06:32Shannon Sharpe:sure we don't start in the hole Ocho he's just one player man he can only do so damn much he He gotta hope the mother guys get on the same thing.

1:06:39Joe Johnson:He's the most important player. He's the most important player because he has the ball in his hands the most. Therefore, he can dictate the games the most. Okay, all right. Huh? I'm gonna be watching. All right.

1:06:51Shannon Sharpe:Ooh, Steelers. Steelers, they got Jamel Dean, and they got Peasy.

1:06:56Joe Johnson:Hey, Dean, Dean from Tampa Bay, number 35, huh? The tall one.

1:07:00Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:07:00Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he gonna be in hell out there trying to deal with chasing teeth. Now, that's gonna be a good matchup. when he when he I'm not sure I wonder if he gonna follow you think he's gonna follow or he just

1:07:12Shannon Sharpe:gonna stay on one side no they don't normally follow that's yeah well when when Tomlin was there Mike T was there they didn't really follow like right but we don't know that's a that's a whole different system so we'll see how it plays out they'll probably just stay side to side you better hey T.J. Watt looking for a bounce back here he don't like the way they've been talking about him lately.

1:07:33Shannon Sharpe:I don't know, Ocho. I wish y 'all the best.

1:07:37Joe Johnson:I appreciate that, man. I appreciate that.

1:07:43Shannon Sharpe:Jamar Chase also spoke out today about protecting his quarterback. Let's listen to what Chase had to say about his quarterback. What did you see on that second? There might have been more than two scuffles, but the scuffle where Joe was sort of involved. did you know nothing just defending my QB is it good when everybody's rallying around him

1:08:06Joe Johnson:in that type of situation we just better protect Joe

1:08:15Joe Johnson:I don't care what we do just protect Joe

1:08:18Shannon Sharpe:and he know Chase know here if Joe go down we in trouble y 'all try to mess up the church's money

1:08:28Joe Johnson:Hey, that's a good one. Don't mess with the church's money, boy.

1:08:32Shannon Sharpe:Hey,

1:08:34Joe Johnson:Chase know he ain't no fool now. Hey, I agree with Chase, but I don't know when that happens.

1:08:43Shannon Sharpe:You hit the opposing team quarterback in joint practices, you expect to get it.

1:08:48Joe Johnson:Oh yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.

1:08:52Shannon Sharpe:You're expecting, I mean, there ain't no ifs, any buts about it. And then you got to worry about your quarterback.

1:08:57Joe Johnson:Mm-hmm.

1:08:58Shannon Sharpe:You don't want that. You don't want to get your quarterback knocked out into practice, do you?

1:09:02Joe Johnson:No. So stay away from our quarterback.

1:09:04Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You already know. You already know how you're supposed to do it. What you do, you run by the quarterback. You don't even get close. You don't get in and throw in. And don't put your hand out. Don't put your hand out. Hand like that, you don't touch the quarterback. Yeah. Yeah. You don't touch him. this notion that and then them dumb dumbs in Cleveland hitting their own quarterback. You know how dumb you got to be to knock your, try to knock your own quarterback out on Joe?

1:09:29Joe Johnson:Yeah.

1:09:29Shannon Sharpe:Or try to knock your own running back out. You know how dumb you got to be? Yeah.

1:09:33Joe Johnson:All you got to do is thud up. Thud up. Thud up. Good little thud. Like I did Ray.

1:09:42Shannon Sharpe:Man, Chase was, Chase was on swole about that. Chase, Chase, Chase feeling like, hold on. I'm doing this, y 'all lying, but that's what y 'all need to be doing.

1:09:51Joe Johnson:Hey. Nice little message to him. Hey Chase. Nice little message.

1:09:57Shannon Sharpe:Hey Chase thinking like, here, y 'all knocked Joe out, boy. Them gonna mess with my numbers. We need Joe. Yeah, them just wanna cut your money.

1:10:04Joe Johnson:Hey, hey Joe was out last year, what, six games out?

1:10:07Shannon Sharpe:Oh, and Flacco came in and was throwing that thing. Yeah, Flacco came in throwing that thing, boy. But what I tell, I said, Ocho, the first two games, Flacco gonna throw for 400. But then they're going to hone in on him because they realize he ain't trying to do nothing but throw the ball to Chase. Hey, that's exactly what happened, too. How many catches he had that one game from Flacco? 21.

1:10:26Joe Johnson:No, I thought it was 21. He had 17 catches.

1:10:29Shannon Sharpe:He had 23 targets. Woo! But that's a good three-game stretch. That's a good three-four-game stretch for me with targets.

1:10:37Joe Johnson:Yeah, it is.

1:10:37Shannon Sharpe:In one game? 23?

1:10:41Joe Johnson:That's crazy.

1:10:42Shannon Sharpe:Man, please. but look are you concerned Ocho because we have this since you and I have been doing that this is what we've always talked about Ocho they gotta protect Joe Ocho they gotta protect Joe Ocho they gotta protect Joe and here we are Chase even having a conversation all I know is they better effing protect Joe

1:11:05Joe Johnson:yeah no I'm not concerned at all I'm not concerned at all sacks are gonna happen it's a part of the game There's no quarterback on earth that's ever been in a 17, 18, 16-game season, 14-game season throughout the history of the NFL that has went through a season without getting sacked. Now, you can minimize some of those sacks, you know, with your play, obviously with the play calling as well, and also the quarterback decision-making as well, not holding on to the ball long, you know, to fix that situation. So hopefully, like I say, the message is being heard loud and clear because it's being spoken loud and clear by the man that matters, by the man that wears a C on his chest.

1:11:47Joe Johnson:So he's probably not saying it directly to his players, but saying it through the media, it says enough.

1:12:02Shannon Sharpe:Ocho. What happened? Did y 'all see this? Take a look at this video. Ocho, let me know what you think. I didn't see this.

1:12:22Joe Johnson:to go to practice yeah hey what's wrong with that huh ain't nothing wrong with a little walk listen sometimes they sometimes they practice in the stadium sometimes the stadium right there right there next to the locker room you know i know the stadium y 'all practicing that field up under the overpass under the overpass okay that's a listen hey it's a 20-yard walk it ain't bad night two two night three actually three nice fields no four yeah four four nights four nice grass people blowing the horn at y 'all hey you know they they fans hey they fans yeah it ain't that bad it's not you you you you've been there before right yeah i've been there yeah yeah you i know your way y 'all practice yeah you you should see it nato it is decked out it's still in the underpass the overpass that's fine that's fine we got a little indoor bubble over there too oh y 'all got a bubble now yeah yeah they got a bubble i don't even like the bubble though but it's cool i like being outdoors especially when it's cold give me the cold yeah i don't know the best thing to happen when they deflated the bubble we wasn't going in it anyway we was outside yeah

1:13:32Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, so you might have practiced how the conditions are going to be on Sunday. Correct. That's exactly what Mike said. If they could throw that snow out the field, because we had coils, we had heating coils in the practice field, especially the one that was closest to the building. Oh, Mike, what do you think we're going to do Sunday? What do you think the weather's going to be? Now, we played in Miami, but then I didn't want to play it. I didn't want to be on it because it was turf. man my knee man my knees be killing me after practicing on turf all that planting and cutting because i'm a hard player oh joe right you know i'll be oh yeah you know yeah i'm i would light

1:14:13Joe Johnson:on my feet i would light on my feet um i'm like joe i'm getting about that thing with little to no pressure you know how you know how you creep in the house yeah and you don't want your lady to know you got home yeah yeah yeah i'm i'm getting out like that but oh joe you're md88

1:14:30Shannon Sharpe:I'm a 380 Airbus.

1:14:32Joe Johnson:Okay, okay, okay, okay.

1:14:33Shannon Sharpe:There's a difference between the two. Hey, I gotta have a long runway, man. I gotta sit here and stay.

1:14:37Joe Johnson:Yeah. Hey, I'm a little prop plane.

1:14:42Shannon Sharpe:Oh, you?

1:14:43Joe Johnson:A little prop plane. A little prop plane. Yeah.

1:14:46Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I know them planes there, boy. That was you in college. That's what y 'all flew on Hot Joke. Man, we took like six of them just to get all of us to one destination. Yeah. Well, that was so scary. Y 'all need to pick. And, Ojo, I sent you the thing. Y 'all worth$7.4 billion now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:15:08Joe Johnson:Wait, hold on. I got a question. Was that the lowest value franchise in the league?

1:15:12Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all worth the lowest value franchise. Yeah. In the NFL? In the NFL. $7 billion?

1:15:17Joe Johnson:Hey, that's funny how that works, Hanjo. The lowest value franchise, but the lowest value is$7.4 billion.

1:15:25Shannon Sharpe:Damn. They're exploding. Wait till this next Keevy contract hit.

1:15:35Shannon Sharpe:I mean, it won't be but like maybe four NBA franchises that's more valuable than the Bengals. After when? You talking about after the... You got the Knicks, you got the Lakers, you got the Warriors, and probably the Celtics. That's it. that's it you talking about right now right now you're going to have to look that up Knicks Lakers Warriors Celtics that's it

1:16:14I mean the UFC

1:16:16Shannon Sharpe:I mean think about it Joe 32 the least valuable is 7.4 billion yeah

1:16:25Shannon Sharpe:yeah and we should have got in on that early man get in what yeah man please man you see what you see what 10 is 10 of the bingos is 700 740 million one percent is 74 million oh it's people out here with that kind of money huh most of them

1:16:58Joe Johnson:hey most of them ain't over here about us i ain't got that kind of money

1:17:02Shannon Sharpe:and i ain't got that kind of assets that i can borrow against it because that's what people be doing they don't use their money they borrow against assets right use somebody else's money

1:17:13Joe Johnson:Don't worry about it. We will have it though. You hear me?

1:17:16Shannon Sharpe:We're going to have money. I don't know if we're going to have that kind of money.

1:17:19Joe Johnson:We're going to have it. We're going to have it.

1:17:22Shannon Sharpe:We're going to have to buy a triple A. We're going to have to buy a triple A baseball team or something.

1:17:26Joe Johnson:We're going to buy that.

1:17:27Shannon Sharpe:We might be going to get on soccer. We might be going to get on somebody's soccer team. That's your high-to. That's high-to. What I'm saying, we can pitch in. We can get a little something of that. Oh, yeah.

1:17:38Joe Johnson:We can buy the baseball team the bananas. What's their name?

1:17:43Shannon Sharpe:Savannah Bananas.

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1:17:53Joe Johnson:For real?

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