In short
Nightcap Hour 1 discusses Anthony Joshua’s 6th-round KO win over Jake Paul, debate over whether it was “scripted,” and what Paul should do next in boxing. The hosts also cover general boxing strategy talk and end with personal/holiday chatter.
Guests (on-air)
No clearly identified guest names or bios appear in the transcript. The episode is hosted by “Ocho” and “Unk” (and references “Shannon” as a PrizePicks promo code), with no additional guest introductions.
Guest backgrounds (if any)
Not provided in the transcript.
Key claims
- Joshua looked in peak condition; Paul’s “suspect chin” and lack of ring experience were decisive.
- Joshua intentionally didn’t cut off the ring early, letting Paul chase/retreat and “burn out.”
- Paul’s jaw may be broken; he was overwhelmed by Joshua’s power and pressure.
- Paul can’t return to fighting non-boxers; he must face real boxers going forward.
Notable examples
- Paul previously fought Nate Robinson, Tyron Woodley, and Anderson Silva (cited as non-boxer matchups).
- Joshua’s alleged “held back” wide-open shots; comparison to Ali’s movement and oxygen demands for heavyweights.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAnalyzing Joshua vs. Paul Fight
2:57 to 4:02
A deep dive into the recent fight between Anthony Joshua and Jake Paul.
“Bowl game, basketball matchup, playoff pushes.”
Analyzing Joshua vs. Paul Fight
5:59 to 12:00
A deep dive into the recent fight between Anthony Joshua and Jake Paul.
“Okay, well, the fact that everybody that was waiting for, Jake Paul said he was going to shock the world.”
Boxing Technique and Skills
12:01 to 14:01
Discussing the importance of experience and skill in boxing.
“And he's never, you talk about a guy, Anthony Joshua probably been blocked since he was 10 or 11 years old.”
Jake Paul's Performance Analysis
14:01 to 16:11
Discussing Jake Paul's fight performance and fatigue.
“But with that being said, Ocho, once you feel someone's power is different.”
Boxing Strategy and Future Fights
18:38 to 28:00
Analyzing boxing strategies and discussing Jake Paul's future options.
“And to see them, how they can rotate, they're like bro, he's like, no, you gotta do it like this.”
Jake Paul's Boxing Strategy and Future
28:00 to 29:19
Discussion on Jake Paul's mindset, boxing strategy, and future fight prospects.
“I don't think Jake will put himself in harm's way again because obviously you can't play boxing and tonight was very dangerous for him.”
Jake Paul's Boxing Strategy and Future
30:56 to 31:28
Discussion on Jake Paul's mindset, boxing strategy, and future fight prospects.
“See nutrition info on Hero.co for sodium and sugar content.”
Analyzing the Heavyweight Boxing Scene
31:32 to 38:38
In-depth discussion about heavyweight boxing dynamics and Jake Paul's next moves.
“I don't know how much Tyson Fury has left.”
The Pressure of Professional Fighting
38:38 to 42:00
Exploration of the challenges professional fighters face and Jake Paul's journey.
“But there's a rise in anxiety when you down six and you got the ball and you got a minute and a half.”
Discussing the Fight Experience
42:00 to 44:40
Learn about the physical challenges and experiences of boxing in the ring.
“He's like, hey, don't do the bouncing, you're gonna tie yourself out.”
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Jake Paul and Betting Insights
44:40 to 45:15
Hear insights on betting around Jake Paul's fights and celebrity bets.
“Hey, you know what I do want, though, huh?”
Desire for a Fight with Andre Ward
45:15 to 46:29
Understand the host's ambition to fight Andre Ward and the motivations behind it.
“It's about showing and proving when you dedicate yourself to something, how good you can get at it.”
Ideas for Podcast Olympics
46:29 to 47:15
Explore creative ideas for competitions on the podcast, including paintball.
“So, I mean, they can only have, so each team can only have three.”
Planning a Family Christmas Celebration
47:15 to 49:48
Hear about the preparations and activities planned for a family Christmas gathering.
“Yeah, me and you going to do paintball first.”
Nostalgia Over Fruitcake
49:48 to 52:55
Reflect on memories and cultural significance of fruitcake during the holidays.
“I mean, y 'all gotta get out and do something, huh?”
Transcript
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6:29Shannon Sharpe:Anthony Joshua defeated Jake Paul in the sixth round of the heavyweight fight in Miami. This bout sparked widespread debate with critics raising safety concerns over significant experience and size gap between Joshua and Paul. but Paul for far far better than his critic thinks I don't think he did all that I thought it was WWE oh I ain't got no more to say about it take it away listen I mean I know I know good and well obviously you know I commend Jake Paul I commend Jake Paul he dedicated the last five years to to trying to hone his craft and being able to get as good as he could at the sweet science and be able to produce and perform at the highest level he could but one thing he will never be able to do is you can't make up all the years it takes to learn a craft and be one of the best in the world at it you can't do that in five years time it's impossible it's almost in a sense it's almost disrespectful in a sense if you watch the nice fight right if you watch the nice fight Jake Paul starts to fight the fight off on his bicycle he starts to fight off on his bicycle running the whole time because you understand if Anthony Joshua wants to apply pressure and really end the fight, he can do that.
7:40I hope people understand and people that are watching if you wanted to end that fight because of Jake Paul's lack of ring experience and lack of ring IQ, he could end the fight right away if he wanted to. If you watch closely, if you know boxing, Anthony Joshua purposely didn't cut the ring off the right way.
7:56Shannon Sharpe:No. He chose to chase him instead of cutting the ring off. Let him burn himself out on Joe. he let him burn himself out because that's not what Jake Paul normally does Jake Paul is normally the hunter he's not normally the hunted so there's a reason why and I'm going to let you go after this there's a reason why you don't see heavy weights move like that it requires oxygen as the bigger man that's why you don't see 200 pound milers what do you see marathoners they ain't nothing but heart and lungs that's it that's all there is because that's what you need It takes oxygen to fuel muscles. And you saw he started out running.
8:34Shannon Sharpe:Did you see Jake's body? Did you see our body start to the preparation? How wet he started to get? I said, okay. It won't be long now. Go ahead. I don't think he understood what he was getting himself into. You can spar as much as you want. You can bring as many people into your camp as you want. They can be 6 '6". They can be 6 '5". You will not understand the difference in level of an elite fighter like Anthony Joshua who is a world champion he's an Olympic champ right? Yes. When you feel that goddamn pressure with them 10 ounce gloves and it touch you or even if it don't touch you he was overwhelmed.
9:16Yes. He bit off more than he could chew. I commend him. It wasn't scripted. It wasn't scripted but I know one thing. Anthony Joshua held back I can tell you that. Oh yeah. There were many many many wide open shots. Yes. That a fighter at his level, you take those shots because the opening is there. He held back on. He held back. Listen, I commend him for getting in the ring, but if Anthony and Joshua wanted to turn up, if he wanted to turn up, man, listen, it would have ended in the first round. Listen, I commend Jake for getting in there. Ain't a whole lot of people getting in no goddamn ring with no heavyweight that don't have eons and years of ring experience.
10:00That's a different ball game. And you don't understand it until you get in the ring. Listen, I know one thing. I'm going to say one more thing. The training, the coaches that are training Jake Paul, what we saw tonight from Jake Paul, the training went nothing like that. Nothing he did in that ring was taught from the trainers that he has. Nothing. But once you get in that ring with that kind of fighter, you overwhelm. Everything that you You learn through camp. It's out the window. It's out the window.
10:33Shannon Sharpe:You breathing heavy in the first round. Because he's running, Ocho. He's not normal on his bicycle. That's a big 215 pounds. And to get on your bicycle and retreat, if you notice heavyweight, that's why the only really heavy, when you go back and study heavyweight, Ocho, the only one that moved was Ali. Ali weighed 205. That's it. You start getting these heavyweights 220, 225, 230, 245. You get Klitschko, 6 '6". You get Fury, 6 '8", 6 '9", 260, 270. You get Lennox Lewis, 6 '6", 255. Now you start to get, and it's not a division, but they're what we call super heavyweights. Reddick Bowe, those big guys, 240, 245, 50, on, on, on.
11:16Shannon Sharpe:You can't move like that. It takes oxygen. Y 'all heard how your boy was breathing? I don't want to bring it up, Mocho, but you heard how your boy was breathing? It take a lot of oxygen to move 255, 260. And you know what's funny too? You have to be so confident and so skilled defensively to have a weight gap and height gap that much of a difference. Yeah, that disproportionate. You have to be that much more skilled as if you were Jake Paul. You got to be just elite to be able to, what you lack in size, in punching power, you got to make up in other areas. And he's just not able to do that in such a short amount of time.
12:00Five years ain't enough time.
12:01Shannon Sharpe:No, Ocho. And he's never, you talk about a guy, Anthony Joshua probably been blocked since he was 10 or 11 years old. Yeah. To go all the AAU, he probably had, how many amateur fights you think he had? Somewhere between 50 and 100? Maybe even more. And then to compete at the Olympic level. And he's a pro. I think if I'm not mistaken, he's a two-time world champion. So he fought the best. But let me tell you what you can't simulate, Ocho. That power. You can bring all you guys you want to. But you got a guy that's 6 '6", 243 pounds, and he's dropping. Did you see when he hit Jake Paul that final time?
12:40Shannon Sharpe:Did you see Jake Paul said, whoo! Yeah, he ain't felt that kind of power. Hell no! He never felt that kind of power. Wearing hair gear and 16-ounce gloves or maybe 20-ounce gloves. Most heavyweights wear 20-ounce gloves. He should have used training gloves. Jake Paul said after the fight he'd think his jaw is broken. I think it is. What do you expect? It's a different level. I mean, you bit off more than you chew, but I commend you for getting it now. I commend you for getting it now. But this is what people always were saying, don't you? If he fights somebody that's a skilled boxer, You're fighting retired athletes that boxing is not their genre.
13:22Shannon Sharpe:You fought Nate Robinson and you fought Tyron Woodley who got knocked out by Anderson Silva. You fought Anderson Silva. You fought guys that doesn't have a boxing background. If you want to be taken serious, you need to fight somebody with a real boxing background. Then people might start to say, okay, you fought Mike Tyson, 60 years old, and Mike Tyson, nobody, everybody. I don't think Mike Tyson let his hands go. He didn't. What you mean? Anthony Joshua didn't let his hands go. Allegedly, he didn't let his hands go. We got to be on the safe side. Let's say allegedly. Allegedly, this is nightcap.
14:04Shannon Sharpe:But with that being said, Ocho, once you feel someone's power is different. If Nate Robinson is what, 165, 170 pounds? Tyron Woodley is however much he weighs, Anderson Silva. You got a legitimate world champion raining down power shots. He hit it with an uppercut and Jake Paul stuck his tongue out. Bro, it was like Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots. I thought he had him about to come off. Y 'all remember Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots, that blue and that red when he catch them good and the head would pop up. Yeah. When he jabbed and he caught, I don't know why Jake Paul thought being in the ropes would be a good shot.
14:47Shannon Sharpe:No. Bro, you can't move. Hold on, he can't move no more, Unk. By that time? Yeah, he was out of gas. Well, he was out of gas. He was out of gas at that point. And you know this, Ocho. Look, I box for fun, you know, for cardio. When you get tired, I don't care. He's like, Shannon, pick your hands up. I said, I can't. You can't. They say, well, move. I can't. I can't. No, no, no. We've all been tired before. You might be jogging. When you get tired, what you do? You stop. Put your hand. So if you do that in a fight, what's going to happen? What? Yep, you going to sleep. I know, you know what, Unk?
15:26The funny thing about it is, is I know what that feeling feel like for Jake. I know what it feel like. My dumb behind done been in there. I done been in there with Boots. I done been in there with Caleb Plant. I done been in there with Benavidez. I done been in there with the Charlo twins.
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19:25Shannon Sharpe:And to see them, how they can rotate, they're like bro, he's like, no, you gotta do it like this. Bud was in the ring, he said, nah what you gotta do, what I would do, if you're like this, I'm gonna step around. Now when you step around, one of two things you gonna try to push me off you or you gonna try to step back. Which if you step back, I'm gonna land a clean right. If you try to peel away I'm gonna throw this left on you. To hear them talk, how they can walk you, I think I'm doing something, I'm Hey, bro, you walking into a right hand. Yeah. Or you walking into a left, and they can check everything because they know you throw this, okay.
20:01Shannon Sharpe:If I throw this, he's got to throw that. Right. How they take, they can take their hand. You got your hand up here. Knock this hand down, and then catch you with a left. Come with something, yeah. I don't know, bro. You're not supposed to knock my gloves down. You're supposed to be – no. I want to get a clean shot. It is – but we – look, we thought this, and a lot of people thought it was kind of like Butterbean. I don't know if you really remember Butterbean. Butterbean would knock on people like, Unk. And then he fought a real boxer. Oh, yeah. Hey, it's different. It's different. And the one thing about it, too, Unk, for those who like boxing in the chat, really like boxing, you know how you play tic-tac-toe, Unk?
20:39Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And it's a mind game and trying to – that's all boxing is, Unk. For those – when it's done the right way, it's like tic-tac-toe. you always want to be able to counter and always be two steps ahead of the next person well if he throw that i know i could throw this but if he throw that i know this is going to be open well maybe the other dude got to know well if that's if i know i'm vulnerable here so i'm gonna make sure i come back home real fast i know we're gonna shoot this and when it's done the right way it's a beautiful thing that's why it's called that's that's the reason why it's called the goddamn sweet science for a reason it actually is a science yeah yeah you know most sports are like this football, okay, they're in this defense.
21:17Shannon Sharpe:They're trying to do this. We're trying to do that. Yeah. It's a constant cat and mouse game. Hey, the question is, if you catch me where I'm vulnerable, can I hold on to the ball? So if you catch me with a clean shot, you don't knock me out. I take it because what a – if the line, you catch me in something and the line doesn't pick it up, quarterback, just hold on to the ball. Yeah. don't throw it arbitrarily kind of like John Mateer did tonight. You got to pick six. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, hey, we'll get to that. We'll get to that. Go ahead. Jake Paul after the loss said, I'm feeling good.
21:56Shannon Sharpe:That was fun. I love this sport and had a blast. Anthony is a great fighter. I got my ass beat, but that's what this sport is all about. This sport has helped me so much. I think my jaw is broken, by the way. Joshua called out Tyson Fury. I shook off the cobwebs tonight, and if Tyson Fury is serious and he wants to shake off that Twitter finger to pick up some gloves, he should fight me. Let's see how serious he is. I thought Tyson Fury said he was retired. Is he willing to come out of retirement? No, he said that on Twitter. He said he's not a YouTuber. He's not a Disney guy. If you want to fight, he said he's going to beat his ass.
22:35Shannon Sharpe:In his accent, that's basically what he said. Okay, okay. That would be a good one. that'd be a good one I mean oh Joe this is years and years and years and being able to see punches and know what counters are coming and know if he's trying to walk you into a trap where you think you're doing something you could tell because he kept going down he looked like he like he's hyper extended his knee or something because he like and he like started acting funny when he was retreating he kept like come on man and whoever he said hey man there ain't nobody pay to see this mess fight if you want to fight fight Nah, he overwhelmed.
23:11And then you got to understand, if you're fighting a heavyweight like that, defensively, you have to be that much more confident in your defense. We don't have to keep retreating like that. Not in his size. He had his hands down the whole thing.
23:24Shannon Sharpe:He tired. Let me ask you a question. You try to do one or two things, Ocho. Either one or two things. When somebody gets tired, Ocho, what we do? Yeah. Hands on your head to try to hold yourself up. Uh-huh. Or you doing this. Yeah. So with that being said. Or you clinch up. He was tired. Do you see how much that man was sweating? Do you see how much he was sweating? I mean, his hair was I mean, he was sweating profusely. You know what the one thing also is not only does he not have the ring experience or the ring IQ to understand what's coming, when you're getting in there with somebody that's much more skilled, much better, much more experienced, the two things you got to be able to do, two things that that would at least help for one you got to be able to survive yes your breathing got to be on point your breathe your breathe a um your breathing got to be on point and you better be relaxed like a margin like a motherfucker but do you see do you see how relaxed aj was the whole time yeah because aj aj is not moving around he's not he's not the one that's retreating hey if you think about ocho what do they tell you all right son deep breaths slow it down slow you're breathing down.
24:39You got to.
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24:40Shannon Sharpe:Because when you get tired, what are you doing? Yeah. Deep breath, son. Boy, it's hard to stay calm. Hey. Hey. What they do? Ain't always in the hard movies, Chad, what they always do? Fall down. Because they get tired. Every time. And you stumble over your own damn feet. And here come Freddie. Here come Jason. And they get you. Mike Myers, any other, you know, saw whatever else they got out there but that was that's the thing Ocho I mean I'm looking at him I'm looking at him after the first round I say I said did they dump water on this man's head yeah different boy but you got to look at him though now he's not he's in shape but he has that body he doesn't have the body that can carve up like Anthony Joshua you see that Anthony Joshua look yeah yeah yeah you see those caps on his shoulders you see his back the small waist Jake Paul, he can be in shape, but he's always going to have a high body fat number.
25:46Shannon Sharpe:And his body just started perspiring. I mean, he was soaking wet. Yeah. Hey, everything was out the window. Again, I guarantee you. I know his coaches. I know all his coaches. I know their background, their boxing background. They did not teach what you saw tonight. Definitely not. All that went out the window. I don't know what happened what happened man what happened but just think if Anthony Joshua had a hit him with the punch that he hit Klitschko with come on that's not fair that's not fair he wouldn't Anthony Joshua wouldn't do that he wouldn't do that I mean if you know boxing if you watch Anthony Joshua fight before you know he held back Oh, he got power.
26:37Shannon Sharpe:That's the one thing. And that's right. And most heavyweights have power in their right hand because he's mostly a jab. Boom. Yeah. Klitschko. Boom. Boom. Now, some guys, what's the guy's name? Larry Holmes. Larry Holmes and Lenny Lewis, they shot the jab to actually hurt you. A lot of heavyweights use the jab as a range finder. Range finder, yeah. Okay, you're within reach. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so you right there, I can come up with this. That's what they did. Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, they used the jab. They really trying to do damage with their jab. Yeah. I don't know if Joshua is trying to do damage with his jab, but he got that, and most heavyweights have dynamite in their right hand because most heavyweights are right-handed.
27:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But, man, look, I don't know where he goes from here because I don't know if you can sell any more fights because they saw what happened. not look that's out of his weight class maybe he can fight a cruiserweight maybe he can he but he can't he can't beat a heavyweight Ocho he's not oh he's not gonna beat any cruiserweight either I know but I'm saying you can't but now once you've gone this route Ocho they're not gonna let you go back and fight guys that boxing is they're not perfect Ocho if I'm a track what what up what uh uh Melissa Jefferson look like trying to race uh Asia Wilson Asia Wilson in the wmba she ain't no damn track and field athlete right right so we try to wait race coco golf coco golf play tennis right you so they're not gonna fans are not gonna allow him to go back and fight somebody that boxing isn't their background that's all i'm saying yeah i do know one thing jake paul is a creator jake paul has a brilliant mind he's always had a brilliant mind a very long time ago when he started youtube so i'm sure he will come up with something something that's going to be exciting, something that the fans are going to want to see.
28:32I don't think Jake will put himself in harm's way again because obviously you can't play boxing and tonight was very dangerous for him. I like the fact that AJ understood that if I wanted to take him out, I can actually take him out when I want to. But what I will do is I will give the fans something to see. I will give the fans something to see until I feel like taking him out. And that's what he did. Copenhagen's Spit Free packs American-grown tobacco into pouches.
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31:31Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, baby, look. I don't know how much Tyson Fury has left. I don't know how much Anthony Joshua has left. if they fight, I'll watch it because when you talk that much-ish, I want to see somebody go to sleep. Yeah. And a lot of times in the heavyweight division, they can turn the lights out of the building with one punch, Ocho. I think that's why people, that's why the heavyweight, everybody loved it. That's why people loved Mike Tyson. You better get your ass in your seat. Oh, yeah. Don't try to get no popcorn. Don't go to concession stands before the fight. If you want to, you just spend$4 ,000,$5 ,000 for nothing.
32:12Shannon Sharpe:For no reason. You missed it. I hope show up the undercard was good. Because a lot of times you don't really see the undercard. Like you and I, they had like 10 fights. Me and you walk out there. They walking to the damn near, walking to the ring. I see, man, come on, man. Come on. Hell no. I ain't going out there. Yeah. When they start walking to the ring, we'll be there. We going, yeah. But I commend him for taking the fight. I commend him for getting in there. Absolutely. But I think everybody thought this would be the outcome. if Anthony Joshua was going to take it serious and apply pressure.
32:46Shannon Sharpe:Now, they went six rounds, and everybody's going to say, well, he went six rounds. Well, hell, I can go four rounds with Jon Jones. If he's just circling, don't grab me. Yeah, yeah. Or don't try to do anything. But if he wanted to end up, he's like, you know what? I don't really want to go past one. It's over. And I think if Anthony Joshua really wanted to do what he did in the sixth round, he could have did that in the first round. Absolutely. I listen I knew when I saw some of the stuff Jake was doing you know on his bicycle and instead of Anthony Joshua cutting off the ring the right way the correct way and instead he just he he followed him instead of cutting the ring off I say yeah all right all right I mean he's on his side I'm not saying it's I'm not saying it's rigged and I'm not saying it's scripted I'm saying he's on his side in favor of giving the fans something that they want to see yeah you can't you can't ended in the first round, people are going to be disappointed.
33:43Shannon Sharpe:I knew. Man, people, because people are like, man, Anthony Joshua went two rounds, he went three rounds, he went four rounds, he went five rounds. With Anthony Joshua, Anthony Joshua is a professional. Yeah, he is. You ain't like him. Yeah. Hey. But, hey. Ocho, man, I don't know. So what you thinking? Where does Jake Paul go from here? As far as fighting, We know he's tremendous on YouTube. He's a great content creator. He's done amazing for himself. Yes. I mean, what he's built the past five years. But he wants to be a fighter. And I don't think this is the end of him. I think he wants to continue to fight.
34:24Shannon Sharpe:What's his next move? You know what? I'm not sure what his next move is. But again, like I said, he's a brilliant mind in everything he's done. What he's accomplished the past five years in dedicating his life to boxing and trying to build an empire in which he has built up to this point. and he challenged himself. He challenged himself and he puts the envelope in fighting one of the best fighters in the world that is a heavyweight. You went down but you don't stop. You don't stop. You don't stop creating content. You don't stop living your dream because you lose. Hey, listen, you get your ass up, you get back to the drawing board, work on your craft some more and you get back in there.
35:02Who your opponent would be this time? I don't know. Just don't bite off more than you can chew. but at 216
35:10Shannon Sharpe:I mean can he fight Bobal Bobal yeah you're trying to get him kicked well I don't know how he goes back and fight people that aren't boxers again that was great to build it up okay that's good that's what you do even sugar even even professional fighters yes you give them somebody and they can increase increase increase yeah I know what what sugar Ray got into the fight and he I think took the belt from um wilford benitez look and see who uh sugar ray took the belt for i think it was benitez but anyway if he lost it's like okay when he lost to duran he couldn't go back down and fought the guys that he was coming up to get in that position right so how does so how does he it well yeah oh i'm sorry hey hey go ahead i'm gonna say you you can't you can't put him in there with Bavall.
36:03He get himself killed. But he has to fight somebody. Okay, he's too sick. He get himself killed. Now, hold on. Now you're telling me to get in there with a pressure fighter that's going to come forward. That's not going to be lenient with you like Anthony Joshua was. He's going to cut off the ring. He's going to get you out of there in the first round. That ain't happening. Anthony Joshua was lenient. We're going to give the people something. Man, Bavall is taking your ass out in the first 10 seconds. One more thing. Go ahead. Bavall is a volume puncher.
36:36Shannon Sharpe:Yes. He's going to be overwhelmed. It's going to be over in 10 seconds. It's good that he fought a heavyweight because heavyweights don't normally throw a whole lot of punches. The problem is if he were to go down in weight, the punch volume increases. Increases, yeah. So now what does he do? So I'm trying to think. Like I said, it had to be cruiserweight. It have to be light heavy. So where does he go? He can't fight an Ocho. He cannot fight another heavyweight. Who is he going to fight? He going to fight Deontay Wilder? No. That's what I'm saying. No. I don't know where you go from here. No, I'm not saying comparing his journey.
37:20Shannon Sharpe:I'm saying once Jake Paul fought a professional boxer, he lost. He can no longer go back and fight guys that aren't boxers. He can't fight a Nate Robinson again. He can't fight a Woodley again. He can't fight an Anderson Silver again. He has to fight boxers. That was everybody's hang-up about him. They say you're a professional boxer, but you're fighting everybody but professional boxers. Even if they haven't won a title, at least find somebody Ocho that all they done is lost they got like 30 fights they uh lost 30 of them yeah only won two or maybe and maybe he's all he done is lost yeah you've got to fight somebody like that Ocho I just don't know how he can go back and fight somebody that doesn't have boxing background that that's not unfair all the people with a boxing background and like amateurs amateurs that are skilled on whether cruiserweight light heavyweights or heavyweights they will beat jake because the ring experience yes it will beat him on spherics alone and and being used to being in being in that atmosphere and what i like to call chaotic environments but when the lights is on and people are watching they sit in the stands and the lights is bright and the camera's on uncle it's different it is it's different you know it's different because we played a game of football is you practice one thing but when you actually get into the game and that guy putting hands on you and they taking your ass to the ground and they hold him up dog hold him up that's a whole different animal and and as the game get late in the ball game yeah now every catch matters every possession matters every play call matters the anticipation you feel it and don't don't let anybody tell yeah being in that situation before it definitely helps because you kind of know what to expect.
39:17But there's a rise in anxiety when you down six and you got the ball
39:26Shannon Sharpe:and you got a minute and a half. Or you down three and you need to get in field goal range. There's a difference in tempo. There's a difference in play. The crowd knows it. It's more everybody, it seems like the yells are louder and it's like, oh, a pass is dropped or a sack or something, you can feel it. So I can just imagine what Jake Paul being in that situation, like, damn, he bigger than that thought. Man. Yeah. That punches hurt more than that thought. Hey, boy, it's different, boy. It's different. And I know it's just like I understand that overwhelming feeling. I took that ring walk but here's the thing we come out of a team you took it by yourself oh yeah absolutely by yourself you and your thoughts that's it that's tough boy that's tough
40:33Shannon Sharpe:it's tough man it's really tough when
40:44Shannon Sharpe:because you know everybody's gonna say see i told you hold on but nobody should say that because we already knew what would happen if he if he was to fight somebody elite we understand that we know training for five years even if you dedicate your life which he did to the sport of boxing there would be no way that he can beat someone who's been doing it since they were young. That's impossible. That's not happening. You could handicap the fight and say, AJ, Anthony Joshua, you can only throw your goddamn jab hand. He still would not win that fight. You just wouldn't. It's impossible. But again, I do commend Jake for getting in there.
41:22I do. And if you watch Anthony Joshua, if you know boxing, you can tell he wasn't on 10. He was on 6. scale i mean as far as pressure and and and and volume punching and letting and letting shots go where openings are what i mean openings are wide open i'm talking about wide open oh yeah and you
41:42Shannon Sharpe:not throwing i'm looking when the guy got his hands down oh no he had his guard up because like after the first minute of the fight of trying to go side to side that's that's cute and all yeah i told you The first time they put me on the clock, Ocho, Ocho, I'm bouncing. Oh no. I'm bouncing, but Ocho, I'm 255. He's like, hey, don't do the bouncing, you're gonna tie yourself out. I'm like, man, I'm good. Hey, I feel like I'm Sugar Ray. I'm bouncing that thing like Sugar Ray. Ocho, I, boy, I got about a minute and a half in. You were tired.
42:22Shannon Sharpe:Because what he doing, Ocho, I'm in the ring, But he got the miss one two. Yeah, two three. Yeah Yeah, you feel you feeling good, huh? Oh, yeah, I say damn I got horn ain't going up. Yeah. Yeah And I'm three minutes ain't no joke, right? Oh, try to look over there. I see the clock is still ticking 141 142 Hey Hey, that three minutes is crazy. Hell yeah, because you got to constantly move. Now think about it, Ocho. Ain't nobody chasing me. So imagine, imagine - Somebody trying to knock your head off. Now you not, hey.
43:13Hey, Unc.
43:14Shannon Sharpe:Huh? I think, I'm trying to think. what about let me see maybe Jake can fight me next Ocho Ocho there's too much weight disparity I'm 205 right now no you're not 205 that man is 216 you're probably 185 190 and you're not going to get it sanctioned it might be an exhibition wait let me take this off what you talking about triple
43:49triple but you don't see how big i am i see you still you still want 200 pounds you know what i you know what i you know what i don't want jake paul i want james harrison i'm gonna beat his ass i'm gonna rearrange his face matter of fact hey hey james harrison i hope you see this when i see you and i know you got an iphone i'm gonna rearrange your face well your phone ain't gonna recognize facetime id that's what i'm gonna do to you that's what that's that's what i'm gonna do to you huh hey i'm a i'm gonna take james harrison i'm gonna take his nose and i'm gonna put it upside down and sew it back on his head yeah that's i'm oh but uh i think the
44:33Shannon Sharpe:fight ended but man do you know all the money was being banned on jay paul no i think i think yes I think Drake bet$200 ,000. Drake bet like$250 ,000, right? $200 ,000. Yeah, he bet something. Yeah, he tripping. Man, I know a bad please. Hey, see, hey. Yeah, but see, he the one 1.25. You giving away money. Yeah, man, you know how to. That's the big boys, huh? You know how they do. You know how they do. Hey, you know what I do want, though, huh? What you want? Because I've been doing this now the past, what, seven years? Yeah. I really need that fight with Andre Ward, huh? No, you're not understanding me, huh?
45:20I really do on a serious note. And that's on my mama. That's on my mama, rest in peace. And it's not about trying to beat him. It's about showing and proving when you dedicate yourself to something, how good you can get at it.
45:32Shannon Sharpe:So what's he supposed to be? So let me ask you a question. Yeah. Why? It's not about winning. What's he supposed to do? Oh, he's going to get his ass whooped. He's going to get touched up. See, Andre Ward, light skin. You know they bruise easy. Yeah. Yeah. Andre Ward is a world champ. He ain't never been defeated. I'm a world champ, too. You heard me. I'm a world champ, too. You're a world champ-ish talker. Hey, that one thing about him. Hey, I'm with you when you're right. Yeah. But look. Oh, matter of fact. Oh, wait. Before you go. Before you go. Hey, who was that from? was it 520? Hey, chat, who was that that said they wanted to box from Gil Podcast?
46:14Somebody, somebody, huh? Oh, Rashawn McCants. Yeah, I'm going to beat his ass. He shouldn't have said, hey, Rashawn McCants, hey, boy, you barking up the right tree
46:24Shannon Sharpe:and I ain't even got no bark. Hey, he talking about he got a pool cue. He said he got a bowling ball. He got a boxing glove. I'm like, damn, do you have a home? You got all that shit in your car? I mean hey matter of fact another thing we need to add to the podcast Olympics if it's to happen if somebody oh we're gonna make it it's gonna happen oh it's gonna happen but you know what we gotta add to that yeah it's like what you call it's like what's that Jennifer Lawrence in it what was that Hunger Games yeah it's like Hunger Games you know what we need to add paintball team teams of paintball team to three teams of four we ain't got but three that's all we need That's what I'm saying though.
47:07Shannon Sharpe:So, I mean, they can only have, so each team can only have three. But that'll be dope. A paintball competition as well. There's so much we can do, man. That's going to be dope. Yeah, me and you going to do paintball first. What you mean? I'm going to shoot you in your bald ass head. Me? No, I got military background training. That's okay. So, therefore, hey, I'm going to give you a military funeral too. I'm going to have them out there playing hard. Hey, you know, I used to play in paintball competitions down here in Doral in Miami, right? Okay. Yeah. I ain't do all that. That's why I mentioned paintball.
47:52I'm trying to name things that I know I can do.
47:55Shannon Sharpe:That's all right. I'll be like Sniper. Nah, that ain't going to work. That ain't going to work. That's what I do. Ask my baby. Baby. Come here. Come here. Come here. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got one of 85 here with me. Oh. What's up? What's up? Say hi. You good? Yeah. Hey, our Christmas start today. Christmas start today? Well, not really. I mean, you know, all the babies come in. They'll all be there by when? Shoot, tomorrow. French Rye, Kennedy, Cha-Cha, G, Sade. my daughter bringing everybody over on show you bring it in you know the moms come to no no no we don't do that we don't we don't do that
48:44hey it's yes yeah they hey what is saying here hey um this is for kids only kids only listen uh
48:51Shannon Sharpe:i mean i thought you bring a couple of the exits everybody hey we break bread say hey we good we move past that we ain't no anger with ocho ain't nothing but loving oh no ain't ain't nothing but love and it's never no anger it's never that but this this is this is for me and my babies okay that's it ain't no no no parents no nothing i got a special guest coming too oh my brother oh it's gonna be the first it's gonna be the first time in 38 years we spent christmas together last time we spent christmas together was 1987 god damn and that's dope we all we all gonna be at huh yeah okay okay okay yeah okay he coming in he coming in i was like hey bro i'm gonna come on uh i had a feeling i had a feeling uh-huh that he was coming because he was asked man you know what you what you doing like working you ain't going nowhere yeah to work he's like well i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna come out there I said, all right, come on.
49:54Shannon Sharpe:There it is. So he coming in. First time in 38 years. As though what y 'all gonna do? I mean, y 'all gotta get out and do something, huh? You know, I show him around, you know? I said, you know, put him on the back. He can smoke his cigars. Put his feet in the pool, whatever. Yeah. Oh, you got a pool? Yeah, but you know what? Got money. Oh, Joe, my family, look, now he like to drive, but my sister, my sister have Shelly say, hey, my sister Uber everything. So she'll get she like ramen noodles. She got a loaf of bread. She'll get two bags of chip. She'll get some soda. She'll get Jimmy Dean sausage stuff like that.
50:36Shannon Sharpe:Right. That's it. My sister don't want to go nowhere. My sister don't want anything. Hey, you want something? No, I'm good. You want to go somewhere? No, I'm good. Chilling. So I asked him, I said, what you want? He's like, hey, whatever you eat, gonna be good with me, bro. Yeah. That's how we are. We, yeah, we, yeah. Be simple. We don't like the inconvenience. We don't like the inconvenience. Right. So they look at it like if I say, well, let's do something, they're inconveniencing me. Right. I look at it if I ask them to do something, I'm inconveniencing them. That's just the way we are. But, no, it's going to be – I'm excited.
51:09Shannon Sharpe:You know, like I said, I had a feeling, Ocho, considering everything that has gone on in 2025. I had a feeling. Because he told my – before he told me, he told my sister. and I told my sister, I think it was yesterday, the day before, I said, you know, Spank said he's coming out here. He said he told me, he said, he told me, but you make sure you call me when he get there. That's dope, man. And, you know, I got all us, you know, we got our days lined up so everybody be here by tomorrow. Saturday, we're going to, I don't know if you, I'm sure, they probably do, we're going to Santa's Enchanted Forest.
51:44It's like a big park. You have all the lights up. You can take the picture with Santa Claus. Yeah, okay. Stuff like that. Then Sunday, we're going to all go to the Dolphins game. Okay. Yeah, I'm taking all the kids to the Dolphins game. And, you know, Monday, we're going to do what? What are we going to do? Horseback riding? Yeah, they love riding horses, man. All the babies ride horses. So we'll probably do that.
52:07Shannon Sharpe:I asked them, did he want some fruitcake? He's like, nah, I'm good. Fruitcake? Hey, I ain't had fruitcake in years, huh? I don't care to have none either. You don't like fruitcake? My grandma used to make it. My grandma used to make it in a big old thing. Yeah. My grandma too. And then she would put wine on it, put a towel over it, and put it in a cool place. Yeah. So it stayed moist. Now, we grew up about, I don't know, about 15 miles from the fruitcake capital of the world, which is Claxton. They make more fruitcakes than anywhere in the world. Right. My uncles worked there. So they used to bring us them fruitcake.
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