Nightcap Hour 1: Argentina ADVANCES To World Cup FINAL + CJ McCollum SPEAKS on NBA Contract TAXES

16 Jul 2026 · 1 h 6 min · 24 chapters

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In short

Nightcap Hour 1 reacts to Argentina’s World Cup semifinal comeback vs England and looks ahead to the final vs Spain, then pivots to C.J. McCollum discussing NBA contract taxes and how athletes’ money shrinks after fees and lifestyle creep.

Guests (hosts)

Chad “Ocho Cinco” Johnson (former Cincinnati Bengals Pro Bowler/All-Pro, Ring of Honor), and Joe “Iso Joe” Johnson (former Atlanta Hawks 7-time NBA All-Star). The episode also features C.J. McCollum as a guest for the contract/taxes segment.

Key claims

  • Argentina reached the final after scoring twice in six minutes late: Enzo Fernandez equalized (85’) and Lionel Messi assisted for the winner by Julián Álvarez (2-1).
  • The hosts argue England’s “park the bus”/prevent-defense approach after leading caused the collapse.
  • Messi is positioned to win another Golden Boot due to leading goals and assists.
  • For athletes, taxes/agent fees can cut take-home pay drastically; lifestyle creep is the real danger.

Notable examples

  • Comparisons to past dramatic World Cup moments (Maradona’s “Hand of God,” Beckham red card game).
  • Golden Boot numbers mentioned: Messi 8 goals/4 assists; Mbappé 8 goals/3 assists.

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Chapters

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Argentina Advances in World Cup

0:00 to 0:34

Discussion of Argentina's dramatic victory over England in the World Cup.

“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”

Argentina Advances in World Cup

2:44 to 3:09

Discussion of Argentina's dramatic victory over England in the World Cup.

“He's dribbling the ball with everything on the line.”

Argentina Advances in World Cup

6:28 to 8:14

Discussion of Argentina's dramatic victory over England in the World Cup.

“Well, we know who Spain's going to play in the World Cup final.”

Analysis of Argentina's Strategy

8:14 to 14:00

Hosts analyze Argentina's gameplay and Messi's impact on the match.

“We understand that you know prevent a lot of times it prevents you from winning the game But I understand you don't want to give up anything guys.”

Argentina's Resilience in the World Cup

14:00 to 20:35

Discussion on Argentina's performance and resilience in the World Cup.

“when the lights are at their brightest and the stage is at its biggest, you look at the moments in which they did.”

Argentina's Resilience in the World Cup

21:44 to 22:14

Discussion on Argentina's performance and resilience in the World Cup.

“Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts.”

Legacy of Messi and the Future of Soccer

22:45 to 28:00

Exploration of Messi's legacy and the future of soccer with expanded teams.

“If he happens to win it, let's say he doesn't win it, it doesn't change the fact that most, 98 % of the population still believe he's the GOAT.”

Soccer vs. Football: Early Morning Games

28:00 to 30:18

Exploring the challenges of waking up early for international soccer matches compared to football games.

“I'm not getting up in that early to watch no football game.”

The Return of Club Soccer After World Cup

30:18 to 33:18

Discussion on the World Cup players returning to their clubs and the short off-season.

“Man, for what they be making Joe hell, I train year-round too hell.”

Messi and Ronaldo: Billion-Dollar Decisions

33:18 to 34:16

Debating the financial decisions of Messi and Ronaldo, including contract offers and lifestyle choices.

“that we cannot do with the billion that we've already accumulated?”
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World Cup Final: Argentina vs. Spain

34:16 to 39:46

Predictions and analysis of the upcoming World Cup final between Argentina and Spain.

“You talking about that one you can do car wheels down the aisle?”

Betting on the World Cup Outcome

39:46 to 42:01

Discussing the betting landscape and predictions for the World Cup, including insights on team performance.

“They took the double out, it was just one.”

Introduction and Banter

42:01 to 45:20

The hosts engage in light-hearted banter and introductions about their new toys and the show's success.

“I got some new toys that came in the mail from Amazon.”

C.J. McCollum's Salary Insights

45:21 to 45:59

Discussion on C.J. McCollum's rookie salary and the impact of taxes on it.

“McCollum says his debut season salary was about$2.3 million.”

C.J. McCollum's Salary Insights

46:00 to 47:24

Discussion on C.J. McCollum's rookie salary and the impact of taxes on it.

“Are you looking for support in your weight management journey?”

C.J. McCollum's Salary Insights

48:33 to 49:32

Discussion on C.J. McCollum's rookie salary and the impact of taxes on it.

“Why did I search the internet for answers to my cold sore problem?”

Understanding Wealth and Taxes

49:33 to 56:00

A deep dive into the reality of athletes' incomes, taxes, and lifestyle inflation.

“He lived off a small endorsement while facing jock taxes, union dues, and other expenses common for young athletes.”

The Costs of Financial Responsibility

56:00 to 57:45

Learn about the challenges of managing money and familial expectations.

“But I already know I ain't asking for that money back.”

Fashion and Financial Priorities

57:45 to 1:00:06

Explore the relationships between fashion choices and financial health.

“And then, you gotta watch people that you got counting on making your money because they're trying to get some off the top.”

Navigating Relationships and Finances

1:00:06 to 1:02:15

Discuss the impact of dating and relationships on financial decisions.

“You can't even find Wranglers for$30 a pair.”

Understanding Modern Dating Costs

1:02:15 to 1:04:29

Examine the financial implications of modern dating dynamics.

“what the hardest thing about la is because you don't know who dealing with who she might be dealing with an athlete an entertainer a movie director a music producer a rapper you don't know what she got going on.”

Wealth Dynamics and Relationship Patterns

1:04:29 to 1:10:00

Analyze how wealth affects relationship choices and social circles.

“So you're going to probably want a sedan, be it BMW, Rolls Royce, something like that.”

The Extravagance of Wealth and Nightlife

1:10:00 to 1:19:13

Explore the relationship between wealth, attraction, and social dynamics in nightlife.

“Michael Jordan wasn't even doing$100 million a year.”

The Extravagance of Wealth and Nightlife

1:19:21 to 1:21:13

Explore the relationship between wealth, attraction, and social dynamics in nightlife.

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4:25Shannon Sharpe:Damn, damn, damn. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Well, you know who I am. I'm your favorite Unc. My partner, their co-host, first, the Liberty City native, Dade County's own, the former Pro Bowler and an All-Pro, Ring of Fame honoree of the Cincinnati Bengals, the route runner extraordinaire. That is Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson, or you can just call him Ocho. And the third member of the Big Three is a Little Rock, Arkansas native. He attended the University of Arkansas. A two-guard, seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks, Mr.

5:04Shannon Sharpe:Clutch himself, Iso Joe Johnson. please make sure you hit that subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from thank you guys for your support and your continued support it's nice like this that we really really appreciate we appreciate you all the time but really there's really we didn't really have a lead in tonight we didn't have no there's I mean we can talk about the game but that ended four or five hours ago and you know normally we like to come on as soon as the event's over you get our fresh instant reaction.

5:38Shannon Sharpe:Something that we didn't have an opportunity to prepare for other than just watching it. And so we really appreciate nights like this that you guys take time out of your busy schedule if you're at work or you're just sitting around with family, friends and loved ones to watch Nightcap, Bunk, Ocho, and Isle. So again, thank you for your support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by LaPortier, head over to LaPortierCognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Remember, it is a premium VSOP cognac that drinks like an XO without the price.

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7:08Joe Johnson:Because he got eight goals in what, four assists now?

7:11Shannon Sharpe:Yeah

7:12Joe Johnson:Can I tell you something? Just to talk about it real quick For those of you in the chat that didn't watch the game Joe and Unk, I mean, obviously you watched the game England dominated Listen, let me finish The first 58 minutes of the game, Unk and Joe They dominated the game Upon that domination and attacking effort From them, they happened to score a goal Right?

7:32Chad Johnson:Yeah, they score a goal.

7:34Joe Johnson:You know what their head coach decided to do was that parking? We gonna park the bus change the formation change the tactics and just play defense They can't they change the formation to a 541 they have pain up top by himself five people in the back another layer four players And that's what they decided to do. So we're gonna do is we're not gonna play to win the game We're not gonna keep attacking we're gonna sit back and hope we can withstand whatever pressure they apply And long behold look what happens

8:11Shannon Sharpe:That you're early to go into prevent defense. Thank you We understand that you know prevent a lot of times it prevents you from winning the game But I understand you don't want to give up anything guys. You don't want to give up anything We have a saying Joe in football nothing cheap nothing deep, right? We get a lead nothing cheap nothing deep But you can't play like that the second damn quarter

8:33Joe Johnson:And you know how much time left on the clock at the 58 minutes 60 the minute yeah

8:37Shannon Sharpe:How much time left in the game you still got damn near 40 minutes because it was stoppage You got a feel you gonna have somewhere between 48 minutes of stoppage time. Yes So you figure you got at least 40 plus minutes to go with 58 minutes on the clock. You got at least 40 minutes They I don't know why they did what they did Argentina has eliminated England from the World Cup in dramatic fashion once again. Add 2026 to the 1986 Hand of God ball from Diego Maradona. Maradona. And the 1998 David Beckham red card game. Joe, you go to the game, Joe?

9:14Chad Johnson:It's right there in your neighborhood. No, I didn't go. I didn't go, Ocho. But, man, Argentina has been exciting to watch. You know what I mean? they i mean because they're very good at scoring you know in opportune times okay ojo and this is a classic game of that bro hey just when you think you can count the ass out boy they come through some way somehow i'm like how in the hell hey ocho yeah the gold debate that out the wonder partner

9:42Joe Johnson:i mean hey hey hey hey joe you hear me listen listen i mean that that's for you i mean listen

9:48Chad Johnson:to go no no no no no listen listen i want you to understand something i want you to understand something yeah i'm watching messy bro he pretty much played on that right side pretty much the whole game yeah and you know when we talk about grace uncle ocho we talk about guys who can make the game easier for the guys around them yeah because of all the attention and attraction that he causes in the game bro he ain't scored damn gold but them two damn passes he made especially to that second one where Buddy got the header? Yeah, he leaves. Oh, my God. Come on.

10:20Shannon Sharpe:He's way over there, Ocho. It's just like he's like, hey, there you go.

10:25Joe Johnson:Yeah. Hey, hey, head the ball into the net. Hey, he put it where only his man can get to it. Listen, he's one of the best, Uncle Joe. I understand how great he is, Joe. I get it. I get it. Now, again, as great as Messi is, and I say it all the time, many, many, you know, say he's the GOAT. but I would never move off of my preference of style of play and what Cresciano has done in his prime years. You know, he's still the preference for me, but Messi is undeniable. He's undeniable, and I never say anything bad about him. I understand his greatness. I get it.

11:00Shannon Sharpe:I don't know what you could say if you wanted to say something bad. Yeah. He took him on as a kid in order to get a decent height?

11:07Joe Johnson:Yeah.

11:07Shannon Sharpe:That's really the only thing you can say to me. He was going to be really undecided. I think they said his height, had he not did what they did, he was kind of going to be like 4 '10". And I think he ended up getting, what, 5 '6"? Right. 5 '7"? Yeah.

11:24Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, he's short, Joe. But, boy, when he on that pitch...

11:30Chad Johnson:Yeah. I mean, when you think about it, bro, it's like something just happens for Argentina, like the last 10, 15 minutes of the game, bro.

11:39Joe Johnson:The last three games. I think they're doing that shit on purpose, honestly. I think Argentina, they purposely say, you know what? In the first half against England, they was out there playing football. Yeah. It was about physical, knocking people over. They were knocking junk up out of each other. It's like it wasn't even a soccer game. Like, damn near WWE. Second half come, I think Argentina purposely plays football, like not meaningful football not meaningful football you know and they sit back and say Messi gonna say you know what okay now it's in the 80th minute we gave Egypt a 2-0 lead 2-0 lead we gave England a 1-0 lead and for some reason in all these games alright now you know what we gonna play ball now we gonna play ball I think they do it on purpose

12:33Chad Johnson:man I I don't know bro but I know

12:37Shannon Sharpe:I mean, the game against Cape Verde, Joe, was unbelievable.

12:41Chad Johnson:Oh, man.

12:41Shannon Sharpe:The game against Egypt, the game against England.

12:44Chad Johnson:Yeah.

12:45Shannon Sharpe:The team that's looked the best against Spain happened to be Cape Verde.

12:49Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah.

12:51Shannon Sharpe:The first game. Now, obviously, teams get better and better as they play. I don't know if they played again. It would be a very similar outcome where it's a nil-nil tie. But Argentina, man, it's just something. You know what? It's like when you have that great quarterback, Joe. You know no matter how bad the situation is, you know if you can make one play You can flip the momentum and you got that guy and it's not a hope We know we believe we can win right as long as that little 10 is on the field

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13:22Joe Johnson:Argentina believe they gonna win Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's magical. He's magical. He can change He can he can flip the game upside down at any moment and that's what he's always been great at he's always been great at having those special moments. Now, the thing about it is those moments he has in important games, he has them at a much higher rate than everybody else.

13:45Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

13:46Joe Johnson:Much higher rate than everybody else. So, I mean, those moments are never too big for him, man, and it just is unbelievable to see. Unbelievable.

13:53Shannon Sharpe:But that's what makes the great. Because when people look at Jordan and you look at Brady and you look at Reggie Jackson, you look at the guys. when the lights are at their brightest and the stage is at its biggest, you look at the moments in which they did. It just seemed like Derrick G to always found a way to get a big ass hit for the Yankees when they were in the world series.

14:17Chad Johnson:Yeah.

14:18Shannon Sharpe:Tom Brady found a way to get a first down, get a game winning, getting get a game winning field goal, get a game winning touchdown. He always seemed to find a way. How bro? Y 'all been losing the whole damn game. Hey, I told y 'all to stop playing with this man and put 50 on the board, but y 'all kept bull driving the hair deals Playing around you give him a chance to beat you

14:41Joe Johnson:And England did the same thing on I don't understand why not keep attacking why not keep taking your chances? Offensively trying to get trying to get another goal make it that much put the pressure on Argentina they didn't put any pressure on Argentina They folded the lawn chair and say we gonna sit back and just we gonna play defense and just hope they don't score Bro.

15:02Chad Johnson:No. Hey, hey, hey. That's a team who just refuses to break when the momentum shifts. You know what I mean? Argentina is, bro. It's like, because they get scored on early, but they never waver, bro. And they come through. I'm talking about an opportune time. You best damn believe it.

15:23Shannon Sharpe:You know what it reminds you of? I don't know how about you guys watch college football in the 80s and 90s, where them teams that ran the wishbone and they would fall down by 714 points. And guess what? They still running that bone. We're not paying. We're going to do what we do. And we're going to get back in this game doing what we do. We ain't finna start tossing the ball. That ain't what we do. Because if we end up doing that, we're going to end up falling further behind. I love when a team, if you look and you said this, Argentina, they fall behind early. They do what they do. They don't deviate from who they are.

16:01Shannon Sharpe:they's like you know what and when you've done it before anytime you've been in a situation before and you overcome it you feel you can overcome it again and you feel you can overcome it again and you don't feel there's not a situation that you can be placed in that you don't feel comfortable that man I haven't been here before we were just down two goals to Egypt with 15 minutes to play we were just we were back and forth with kate birdie yeah man this ain't nothing and plus they england they don't even believe they

16:36Joe Johnson:can beat us yeah yeah and the fact that we saw it so much in the tournament especially the last two games they had to play um against k birdie against egypt and i remember when england scored i tweeted it's only a matter of time before messy answers and i only said and tweeted that simply because I've seen what he's done in the previous two games.

16:58Chad Johnson:Yeah.

16:59Joe Johnson:And lo and behold, even if he wasn't the one that actually scored, him assisting resulting in the scores not once but twice?

17:08Chad Johnson:Hey, Ocho, Ocho, he's not only leading the World Cup in goals now, I think, but I think he's leading it in assists too.

17:16Joe Johnson:Yeah, probably.

17:17Shannon Sharpe:He don't want to go to boot because him and Mbappe was tied. But Mbappe had one assist and eight goals and he had eight goals and two and two assists. No, he was tied. They were tied because Mbappe got another goal. So they were tied, Ocho. So now, Messi goes ahead because he has two more assists. Yep. Because it goes, okay, we got the same number of goals who has the most assists. So with that being said, he's about to win his second golden boot. Yeah, that's crazy. Man, look, there are very few people on the short list when you talk about who's the greatest. Obviously, Pele winning back-to-back World Cups.

17:51Shannon Sharpe:He's won three. No other players won three World Cups. and the number of goals that he scored over the course, obviously they didn't have all the league that they have now with Messi and Ronaldo and Holland and all these other guys playing in Ocho. But he gets a goal. He wins another World Cup with the pool because you got more countries playing. You get guys that are more specialized now playing. It's kind of like basketball. It's kind of like football. I mean, that's not to take away anybody. But if you win a championship and there's only six teams in the league at the time, it's a lot easier to win with six teams as opposed to the 30 teams.

18:35Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely. It's a lot easier. The NFL, we got 32 teams now. Once upon a time, it was like eight. Yeah. The official language of football is trash talk. Late night group chats, memes, and unbelievable highlight clips. That's why Boost Mobile brings you our new global connection plan. The first plan ever made for WhatsApp. Get unlimited data, talk and text, international roaming, and calls to over 100 countries for just$40 a month. $40 price includes$5 a month auto pay discount. After 40 gigabytes of premium high-speed data, speeds will be lowered. Coverage not available everywhere. Visit store or boostmobile.com for details.

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22:45Shannon Sharpe:He went another world cup man I mean I mean All the golden boot ball And everything that boots And all the things that he's done And you know In the league that you know you wait for Yeah It's just It's gonna be hard

23:00Joe Johnson:Yeah I don't think it changes anything Uncle Joe Even if he doesn't win this game Against Spain His legacy is cemented What he's done in general is he meant it. If he happens to win it, let's say he doesn't win it, it doesn't change the fact that most, 98 % of the population

23:17Shannon Sharpe:still believe he's the GOAT. I think it's going to be a 99.99999. The only holdout is going to be you, Ronaldo, and speed.

23:28Joe Johnson:It's going to be three holdouts. You know what else? Just a small tidbit on, let's say they add more, add more teams. Like next year, they're thinking about going to 64, right? And 16 to 30.

23:42Shannon Sharpe:Add 16 more teams, so they'll go to 64 instead of 48 for 2030, if I'm not mistaken. Go ahead, Ocho.

23:48Joe Johnson:Even if they do do that, Uncle Joe, right? You still have to remember, just like the NFL, it's the same participants every time when it matters most. When it gets to it, maybe you have one or two teams that may surprise you getting out the group stage or getting out the round of 32, getting into the round of 16, but the cream always riders to the the cream always riders to the top when it comes to the most important games and it's always the same teams your France, your England, your Netherlands you know your Spains Morocco is always going to be there France is going to be there so even if they do go to 64 games you know ahead of the 48 or the 42 it's going to be the same cope is going to be there in the end

24:29Shannon Sharpe:the question is will you get an outlier like we got Indiana because like you said normally before Ocho we get Georgia, we get Alabama Ohio State, we get the true blue bloods or a situation in basketball where it's normally all the blue bloods and every once in a while you get this outlier could it possibly be, could you get an outlier in soccer like that?

24:54Joe Johnson:It's hard, huh? It's hard even if you get that outlier, right? And they happen to make it, let's say they get past the round of 16 and then they have to play one of those juggernauts.

25:04Chad Johnson:Yeah.

25:05Joe Johnson:Like a Spain, like a Portugal. They have so much quality on their team and the individual skill and quality of each player at each position is just that much better than that outlier team. And you won't understand it until they actually get on the pitch and they share the pitch together. When the USA played Belgium, immediately as great as the USA looked the first three games, Joe, once they got out that group stage, once they get out there round of 32 and they saw elite competition in a sense yeah what do we look like but hey hey hey hey like what uh stir fry hey hey oh joe i got a question this me off yes

25:47Chad Johnson:with messi being 39 bro will he will he play in another one nah nah nah he did he done yeah he done

25:55Joe Johnson:this is last world cup this was his last world cup this is cristiano's last world cup yeah they

26:00Shannon Sharpe:He's like, you know what, Joe? But, hey, he stayed right there in Miami, make my 50 mil, all the subs and all the attendance records that they break, they win championships. He's like, nah, I don't need to trade. To do what I need, I can make 50 million and do this. Ain't got to travel no more. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if he'll stay here or he'll go back to Argentina or go wherever he chooses to live at. But he's like, nah, I'm good.

26:28Joe Johnson:he got two more years with us down here in Miami

26:32Chad Johnson:how they finished this past year they won it didn't they win it, they won yeah, they won the MLS Cup damn yeah they won it

26:47Shannon Sharpe:and you know he got a sweet he got a great deal man I was watching them Ocho you see them guys man they getting 10, 15, 20 million followers to the IG, the soccer players. Oh, yeah. Holland added 23 million. Easy. Vazenia added like 29 million. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cristiano Ronaldo, he ain't have a little 10. Listen. So he going to like 675 now.

27:14Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, is this the biggest sport? Not even close.

27:20Shannon Sharpe:It's 10 times the people watching this as opposed to the Super Bowl. Yeah, way, way more. Yeah, it's crazy. because if you think yeah people watch people watch the Super Bowl they like it they under they you know but think about it your country's in this you're probably getting up Joe four five in the morning six in the morning to watch this yeah this is my country unless you got somebody got that background in them somebody got Argentinian background or some more in background or something like that and that's a relative but the whole country man you see how ain't no cyrus who was acting yeah they like bro i ain't gonna even hold you for the most part i can't do it i'm not getting up in those six in the morning five in the morning watching nothing when they have the nfl europe overseas yeah and them games come out at six in the morning yeah

28:15Chad Johnson:you don't get up i i wish i might hey that mean you ain't no real fan huh i ain't no real fan joe

28:21Shannon Sharpe:I ain't been holding you. I'm not getting up in that early to watch no football game. I catch him. When I get up, I walk Titus. It'll be halftime. I catch the second half. Yeah. Nah. Hell nah. And to get up, like I said, they getting up at 5 in the morning. At least football, for the most part, you're probably going to get some scoring. It ain't really often that the teams go to the half 0-0. Yeah. You're going to get something, Joe Ocho. You Joe Ocho. You get a field goal. You get a touchdown. It's 7-3. It's 10-7, something like that. There's a great chance. You're going at the half. It's 0-0 in a soccer match.

28:59Shannon Sharpe:You know me to tell me I've been up for a whole hour and a half,

29:03Joe Johnson:and y 'all ain't scoring nothing? Yeah. You know when, let me see, even when the World Cup ends this week, Joe, them boys got about two or three weeks off, and it's preseason. In August, I'm sure they're probably having the tours, where they do the U.S. tour when teams come down here to play, they're going to be right back in the States. Because soccer season starts, if I'm not mistaken, when football season starts, or preseason start for football, they start back club play.

29:35Chad Johnson:So they got maybe two or three weeks off. That's about like mid-September or something like that, early September.

29:41Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

29:43Shannon Sharpe:Normally the team that win the World Cup, don't they come play like some of the MLF teams or something like that, Ocho?

29:50Joe Johnson:Nah, uh-uh. Because once the World Cup is over, you go back to your club.

29:54Shannon Sharpe:Oh, okay.

29:55Joe Johnson:Yeah, because your season's getting ready to start. Okay. So Mbappe goes back to Real Madrid. Holland goes back to Man City. Jude Bellingham, back to Real Madrid. Vinny Jr., back to Real Madrid. And they already training. The players that didn't make their World Cup teams, back at the club training. Right.

30:16Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Man, for what they be making Joe hell, I train year-round too hell. Oh, yeah. Hey, hey. They guapped up now. They guapped up now. And Ronaldo, Ronaldo, I mean, Ronaldo making$300 million a year, Joe. Ooh. And a staff. And he got a full-time staff. And he got a full-time security detail. And they gave him a private jet. Hey. He making different money, boy. Hey, that's how you do it. offered they offered they offered a message a billion a billion they offered him over a billion you're like nah hey hey hey do you know how good you got to be joe to turn down a bill oh no they offered him 1.1 now one yeah who offered him that in saudi yeah and he said no yeah his wife i guarantee you want to play with ocho team down there in miami yeah i guarantee his wife what they gave me in miami okay they get that he get a part of the subscription you get a part make about he probably make about 50 75.

31:16what joe you gotta understand messi doesn't live

31:23Joe Johnson:like that so therefore he's already worth three four hundred million now i think he's he's one big they say he's worth a billion worth a billion now so i mean there's really no need but i'm gonna go get an extra billion for what what you mean yeah what's what's better than one

31:41Chad Johnson:10 billion, 2 billion. Messi lives a very simplistic lifestyle. Oh, can you turn it down 1.1? 1.1 billion, keep it 100.

31:52Shannon Sharpe:I ain't gonna be able to do it, Joe. I ain't gonna be able to do it.

31:59Chad Johnson:Hey, where I signed at here? Cause that's what I'm gonna be asking. Joe, you going away to Saudi Arabia, huh? Yeah, for 1.1 billion? Oh, Joe. What about your kids? Your wife say, listen, you're coming. I got 1.1 billion. They finna learn Mandarin and all that. What you mean? But you already had that kind of money. What more do you need?

32:20Shannon Sharpe:More money? We finna experience life. He might be the only person, Joe, that ever... Because when have you ever heard a person? You heard a person say, man, I got too many shoes. Whiffen say, I got too many persons. I got too many clothes. I got too many cars. I got too many homes. Last person you heard say, man, Ocho, I got too much money.

32:38Chad Johnson:Oh, man. When you ever heard somebody say that?

32:40Shannon Sharpe:You ain't never heard anybody say that. Elon Musk was worth a trillion. Now, he's worth about$800 billion now. He ain't nobody ever been worth that kind of money. And he's still trying to get more money. So I would take my hat off to him. Look, he's a family man, and it was very important to him. Like you said, Ocho, his wife probably said, and she'd probably say, look, we've sacrificed enough. No, yes. Because at some point in time, it comes a point where how much more am I going to have to sacrifice? We sacrifice so we can get to the point where we are now. Right. We don't really need to sacrifice anymore because what can we do with another billion that we cannot do with the billion that we've already accumulated?

33:24Shannon Sharpe:And so I think, Joe, that's how they're looking at it. They ain't have me and you looking at it. Because, hey, I know my sister and my brother are going to put their foot in my ass if I turned out to be you. They're going to say, boy, what's wrong with you? Exactly. And my mama said, well, hey, you can put a slot machine in my house. Mama, it steals your money. Even if the slot machine in your house is your money that you put in, you winning your money. So my mama told me, she want a slot machine in the house. I said, mama, you do realize that would be your money, right?

33:59Chad Johnson:Yeah.

33:59Shannon Sharpe:It's not like somebody gonna come in there and put money in there for you to win. That's your money.

34:04Chad Johnson:Yeah.

34:07Shannon Sharpe:but uh no uh that is a special type of person to get to that point where you can say no to that kind of zero do you know i mean that's a lot of zeros man yeah i mean 300 million a year and i mean just when you get a chance joe google uh uh ronaldo's contract 20 i mean a full-time style full-time security detail big he'd be flying on that that big jumbo that one that President Trump just got to take over Air Force One, he be flying on that. You talking about that one you can do car wheels down the aisle?

34:38Chad Johnson:Yeah,

34:39Shannon Sharpe:that one.

34:39Chad Johnson:Okay, okay. Alright, that's what I'm talking about.

34:43Shannon Sharpe:As a matter of fact, we just saw one, Joey, remember that big old jumbo jet we saw parked out there? We saw some Saudi prints, I forget where it was from, that jet is so, so ginormous. Yeah. That thing probably cost, I know they charge you$100 ,000 an hour for that one hey they got it they oh yeah they have a unlimited amount of money that is constantly rotating this but now we have spain excuse me and argentina for the world cup who you got who you got oh i already told you about who i wanted to win who he wanted friends oh i go to spain wait you you betting against messy i'm betting against i'm betting against the people of argentina i like messy it just i just it's hard for me to get over the uh the history okay okay what about you joe man i i like how spain play yeah joe considering

35:54Chad Johnson:the fact you know that you know they they got good midfielders and attackers you know what i'm saying it's like and if you can control that midfield game bro you can really control the game of of soccer you know what i mean yeah and they do a great job at that yeah no you're right joe you right hey hey it's something about messy dog like he got the magic he got it you know when you when you see a place like man he got it i don't i don't know what the hell it is but yeah you know what i mean yeah he got it oh i ain't gonna lie i'm nervous to bet against him i ain't gonna lie i don't know yet bro i don't know who i'm going for yet give me give me about a day or so somebody

36:33Shannon Sharpe:hold on so if i'm not mistaken somebody better get friends somebody better million dollars that uh spain was gonna beat france and they won 2.5 million drake bet france i mean this is what i'm gonna do i'm gonna start looking to see who drake bentwood and i'm gonna go against him

36:50Chad Johnson:hey but hold up though I ain't gonna lie now it was moments throughout this World Cup boy France look unbeatable they did hey since the World Cup started hey hey hey Ocho I thought hey I ain't gonna lie hey I didn't think it was gonna be a team that was gonna run through them boys like that man

37:09Joe Johnson:hey I'm at fault too I'm at fault because USA France the way they both look I wasn't thinking France was going to lose at all, Joe. They was balling since the start of the tournament. USA had me fooled. They had me fooled the first three games. I'm like, oh, we finna run circles around Belgium. Man, they embarrassed me. Make me think I don't know what I'm talking about.

37:33Shannon Sharpe:Well, we already know y 'all from Argentina because both of y 'all got blue and didn't tell me. But anyway, Golden Boot race. Lionel Messi has eight goals, four assists. Kylian Mbappe, eight goals, three assists. Erland Harlan, he has seven goals. everybody is done except Messi nobody can catch him so you know what that means you know what it mean what would it mean man they have another trophy on his

37:57Chad Johnson:mantle yeah hey I got messy bro I ain't damn I care all the wobble is Spain's

38:03Shannon Sharpe:leading goal score with five so in order to catch he would need to score four

38:11goals

38:11Shannon Sharpe:it's possible Ocho is four goals in the World Cup

38:15Joe Johnson:possible no in order to score four goals as an individual maybe a hat trick yes but four

38:24Shannon Sharpe:but maybe in the early stages not in the championship game absolutely not they would have to lay down on the floor for you to get four that's like a wide receiver having 250 or 300 receiving yards. Hold on.

38:38Joe Johnson:In the first quarter.

38:42Shannon Sharpe:We've seen Brady had 500-yard passing game, had a 500-yard passing game in the Super Bowl, and they lost, remember, to the Eagles. He had 500. Yeah. Jerry had over 200 receiving in the Super Bowl. They won 1988 against the Bengals in Miami, Ocho, your team. You didn't have to bring that up, though. I'm just saying, Ocho. I'm just saying. Come on, man. Come on. Well, you had a chance to win the game. The ball hit Lewis Billups in the hands, and he dropped it. Yeah. And you already know, and Joe, you've seen this, when you have an opportunity, like, to get a rebound or to get a loose ball and you don't get it, what happens?

39:18Shannon Sharpe:You drop it, you have an opportunity to jump on a fumble. You have an opportunity to get an interception. You get an opportunity to make a play and you don't have it. What happened in football, Ocho? As is a wrap, right? They come right back, they come back and... It bites your neck. Touchdown. You know what? Yep. Yep. so number one Argentina I mean hey it's only fitting the number one seed Argentina number two seed Spain will meet in the World Cup it's also the first World Cup final between the reigning champ Euro and South America Copa America Spain's favorite you know that Ocho oh that's it right there see that would he be flying on Joe and Ocho oh that's the one we took Hold on, is that a double joint?

40:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah! They took the double out, it was just one. Damn. We at the airport, what you call it?

40:18Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey.

40:20Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all been on that?

40:21Joe Johnson:That's a, oh that.

40:22Shannon Sharpe:Hell no, I ain't been on that.

40:24Joe Johnson:Oh, okay.

40:25Shannon Sharpe:My bad. Boy, they had you so far up under the jail?

40:34Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you know what I'm saying, Ocho? You know what Ocho said? We're going to be coming in some bread. So, we coming in some bread. We got rid of that right there, Jocho.

40:42Joe Johnson:I'm telling you right now, ahead of time. Straight to Camo Verde. Hey, I tell you what. We going to the mall, D.

40:52Shannon Sharpe:Hey. All I want to pile to do is turn around. Where to, Mr. Sharp? Hey, yeah. Hey. You turn around. I tell you what we have with here.

41:02Chad Johnson:Hey, hey. I tell y 'all what.

41:04Joe Johnson:my grandma always told me speak it into existence now yeah it's one thing to existence hey joe it's one thing to speak it into existence right but it's one thing to actually know what's coming and you know it's power in the tongue you hear me yeah yeah all right it's power in the tongue

41:19Shannon Sharpe:and i can feel it oh joe could attest to this power in the tongue all right now here we go see what i mean see you see see why i gotta go left you said they power in the tongue

41:31Joe Johnson:yeah I'm talking about speaking things into existence is this power in the tongue context

41:37Shannon Sharpe:matters oh they say they be speaking in tongues oh I so Joe oh whoa whoa whoa whoa oh Joe you know what they call him at the crib what they call it sloppy Joe hey you gotta chill you

41:59Joe Johnson:You know what? I'm kind of mad, right? I'm kind of mad.

42:02Shannon Sharpe:What you bad for?

42:04Joe Johnson:I'm kind of mad. I'm out here in New York, right? Yeah. I got some new toys that came in the mail from Amazon. I wanted to be able to show Joe, but I'm not. You ain't a whole together. You mean you want to show me? What you think, man? Hey, hey, hey. I don't have, that ain't my thing, partner. Hey, Joe. Hey, you think you're slick. I know you taking notes every time. You go, hey, hey, hey, hey, he go back and watch the show. He do? Yeah, he go back and watch the show. Oh, he do.

42:26Chad Johnson:Oh, okay, okay, okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I see what's going on. I see what's going on.

42:34Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Art of mistake, Art of mistake, Art of mistake, Joe, Art of mistake.

42:37Chad Johnson:Hey man, I done forgot what we were talking about. Unkna took the thing off the track.

42:42Shannon Sharpe:There ain't no Unkna took the thing. Come on, man. Yo, Ocho, you know they say slip of the tongue ain't nobody's fault. Slip of the tongue, you right around the corner, might as well drop in. Might as well, Joe. I mean, you in Miami, Ocho and our neighbors. You knocking Ocho dough, Man, I'm going over here and see if Unc home. That's what you're going to do, Joe, already know.

42:59Chad Johnson:Oh, man, listen, listen, listen. I know how he came up with Nightcap because the freaks come out at night. The freaks come out. The freaks come out at night.

43:09Shannon Sharpe:Nah, Joe, I think you got me, Joe.

43:11Chad Johnson:Nah, come on, Unc.

43:13Shannon Sharpe:They say Ocho, they say Ocho 1A, Joe 1B. They say I'm 1C.

43:19Chad Johnson:Man, we can't keep going through this because Chet already, and they tell y 'all every damn show who won two or three and y 'all refuse to believe it joe the

43:28Joe Johnson:chat continuously says you're number one i'm not sure why you look oh my god why do you keep designing

43:34Shannon Sharpe:it's okay we're gonna get that we're gonna rent that i give us three three years three three years oh you're trying to accelerate oh joe to go oh joe to go where we going that thing probably a hundred thousand an hour joe we i mean oh joe so we gotta have some disposable income that we just like a f that we gotta have some effort money and yeah the phone come over there hey um

43:56Joe Johnson:i guarantee you i'm telling you now it's not gonna take no three years not even close hey i'm with outro on that one definitely for the day do you understand the product that i gotta watch right now huh hey joe yeah he's underestimating the product he don't understand the product the product is top-notch it ain't even close so that three years oh yeah please no

44:18Chad Johnson:I'm talking about -

44:19Shannon Sharpe:We both of the pods, we're in the top 20 this week on YouTube, both of them. Come on now. 16 and 17. Come on, nigga.

44:25Chad Johnson:I'm talking about we cooking with hot grease.

44:28Shannon Sharpe:What? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's routine. Now I get mad if we outside the top 20. I already know we're going to be on the charts. I'm just like, hold on, damn. Expectations, man. Hey, I feel like when we're in the top 20, top 15, And I feel like Michael Jackson at the Grammy 98 Grady when they didn't give him no award. He nominated anywhere, none. And then went up on stage and tore it up.

44:53Chad Johnson:Oh, man.

44:56Shannon Sharpe:But we, hey, we back. They dope.

44:59Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. Oh, it's gonna be lit when football crank up. I already know it. Woo, woo. When the Cowboys, boy, we finna, yeah. Y 'all in for to do nothing. Oh, hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't start poor mouthing us.

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49:32Shannon Sharpe:Oregon taxes, Oregon's 9.9 % state tax, 4 % agent fees, and 15 % marketing. He lived off a small endorsement while facing jock taxes, union dues, and other expenses common for young athletes. He told Forbes, let's say I'm making$2 million. After taxes, let's call it$950,$970. Agent fees, 15 % marketing, those checks get chopped out. after living off energy drink deal, I had about a$12 ,000 deal just to come just to get some pulse off and I lived off that. I had a fear and a paranoia that I was going to go broke. I always fear like everyone goes broke. So I'm not going to spend any money. I bought a$6 ,000 chain, a big cross, but that was really it.

50:16Shannon Sharpe:I was afraid. The trip here, I used points to come to New York. The points were a trip to stay. It gave me$400 in food and beverage. Coos chimed in, not gonna lie, I guess Austin here and athlete breakdown how their millions aren't really millions after taxing the fees. 40 million after taxing is still 40 million. The real issue is that the system is the lifestyle creep. Nobody told you to live like a king, buy five cars, or move with a 10 person entourage. Modest is allowed. Coos ain't lie.

50:46Joe Johnson:No, he didn't.

50:47Chad Johnson:He didn't.

50:48Joe Johnson:He didn't. A lot of people, Uncle Joe, when you make it, a lot of people get caught up in a lifestyle. out, having to look a certain way, having to drive a certain car. Now, when it comes to driving a certain car, they start buying multiple of said cars. Now, it's okay to enjoy the fruits of your labor. I understand that. You work your butt off to get to this point in life. But some people don't know when to scale back and they get lost in the sauce, as I call it. Now, I got to keep up with the Joneses. Now, I have to dress a certain way. Now, I have to drive a certain car. I have to buy multiple chains when something new comes out i gotta keep up with it it just it's ridiculous to me at the point i was extremely smart uncle joe you know how i am in moderation i do things in moderation now when i was playing i live extremely below my means extremely well below it and and now i'm able to enjoy you know some of the fruits of my labor now i'm starting to have a little fun doing things in moderation you know but doing some things that when I was playing I definitely wouldn't do I definitely wouldn't do it now I'm enjoying myself a little bit just a little bit yeah

51:55Shannon Sharpe:I lived a little now because but after a while you know I like t-shirts and everybody I know y 'all be asking like man where do you get where you get those t-shirts from Shelly's like, I'm not buying you no more t-shirts. This is getting out of hand. I'm like, Shelly, they're t-shirts. You'll make it seem like I'm buying$100 ,000 watches. They're$20 t-shirts. Yeah. So I get it, and I do. Look, that's one of the reasons I left the state of California. 13.3%, 13.5 % state tax. I'm at 37 % federal tax. So before anything, before FICA, before Medicaid, before I do anything, I'm only getting 49.5 % of my money.

52:44Shannon Sharpe:Uncle Sam got it. Gone. Agent fees. I get it. So anytime I get something, let's just say I get$100 ,000, I go ahead and slide, you know, 45, 48. I set that to the side. So now that means I only got 52, 55 to deal with. You don't got 100 now. See, people make a number and think they got that number. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, you don't got that number. Anything you do, you automatically say, you automatically, this is what my guy told me, guy, Ojo and Joe. He said, you in partnership with Uncle Sam. He said, when your money grows, so does his.

53:25Chad Johnson:Yeah. Mm.

53:29Shannon Sharpe:If you understand that and live with your means. See, if you go buy mama Rolls Royce, who's going to have to pay? See, I got to get mama something that I can get off of and she can take care of herself. If she need to go buy a tire, she can do that. If I buy a$500 ,000 car, Joe, who's going to have to pay to keep that upkeep? Me. I buy mama a$3 million house. Who's going to have to pay to keep that upkeep? Me. Mama can't clean a$3 million house. My sister can't clean a$3 million house. My sister can't cut the lawn at a$3 million home. So you got to be smart because you got to realize anything that you do for your family is greater than anything that's ever been done for them.

54:14Shannon Sharpe:And they know you're doing it out of love. Forget the fact that it's more than they ever thought. It's out of love. And if that's not enough, oh, I don't know what to tell you.

54:26Joe Johnson:Then that's how I can do it. Hey, Uncle Joe, you know family don't know when to stop now, right? Yeah. Yes, I do know. Yes, yes. Family don't know when to stop asking. Now, that's hard, especially, you know, for these young players. You're coming into money young, and you think about it. You've got all these people coming after you.

54:41Chad Johnson:Yeah.

54:42Joe Johnson:Asking you for this. Man, it's difficult. It's difficult. I don't think people understand. I'm personally, I never tweeted. I never say anything when I see these clips about players saying, you know, a certain amount of money is not enough. and I know what's eating them up. The lifestyle and trying to maintain an image. Because once you stop playing, Joe, it's impossible. It's impossible.

55:05Shannon Sharpe:You still Ocho. The first day, what is it? Man, Ocho must be doing bad. He ain't got that big chain. I don't see that big chain. Hey, Ocho used to be in the club popping bottles, man. I ain't seen Ocho in the club in a minute. Then you start hearing that. Now all of a sudden you got to go get something outside of your means. Bro, hell nah. Yeah. You've got to put limits on what you give because takers will never put limits on what they take. Yeah. You have to understand, and you buy something, you buying it, just like, okay, I give, let's just say for the second, Joe and I, we homeboys.

55:46Chad Johnson:Yeah.

55:46Shannon Sharpe:Joe ain't make it, I made it. Me and Joe been cool. I'd know if Joe had made it, he'd do me the same way.

55:52Chad Johnson:Yeah.

55:52Shannon Sharpe:I'ma shoot Joe some money, and I ain't going to never ask him. I ain't never going to mention. I'm never going to put him in a situation where he feel that he got to pay me back.

55:59Chad Johnson:Right. But I already know I ain't asking for that money back.

56:04Shannon Sharpe:I only give money that I know I ain't going to have to. My homeboys ain't never got to worry about paying me back. That's with anybody.

56:10Chad Johnson:Right. Right.

56:12Shannon Sharpe:That's how I do it. But you buy a car. If you got to buy a car, Ocho, and I got to pay the insurance on it, and I got to pay the maintenance on it, and I got to buy the upkeep, I got to pay the upkeep on it. Well, damn! I thought this was like a robbery, in and out.

56:28Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

56:30Shannon Sharpe:I'm being real. Yes, sir. And people are like, oh, that's your family? I get it. You go broke with effing with your family. And then what? Let me tell you what happens when somebody goes broke, when they spend all that money. The first thing they're going to say, we know what they're going to say, Joe and Ocho. What's that? Man, I don't know how he lost all that money effing with y 'all. Yeah. That's how I lost it. F-ing with y 'all. Yeah. Because every time I couldn't say no because I felt bad. Every time you said, let me get$50 ,000, let me get$25 ,000, you had this great idea, I didn't say no.

57:05Shannon Sharpe:Right, right. Then when it's all gone, man, I don't know how he lost all that money. Oh, you don't, huh? You have no idea.

57:14Chad Johnson:Hey, and that's the hard part, Ocho, because these guys coming in so young now, bro, 18, 19 years old. and you're running all this money. Hell, you become a multimillionaire overnight, bro. So you gotta hope you have somebody in your corner who can help you, cause y 'all are probably just coming into some money, you and your parents, and for the ones who already know what it's like, and obviously, hopefully you got some good help. But when you don't, bro, and everybody is new to everybody, all mistakes are gonna be made, partner. You're gonna make some mistakes.

57:47Shannon Sharpe:And then, you gotta watch people that you got counting on making your money because they're trying to get some off the top.

57:53Chad Johnson:Hello. Hello.

57:57Shannon Sharpe:And you just excuse me, Chad. Apologize. It gets to the point, Joe. Ocho, and you guys, you know this because we're professional athletes and we've been successful. How many cars do I need? Right. Two. How many chrome hard pair of jeans? I just saw a guy. I was I was going through my DMs and I looked at, and the guy had sent me, say he had a Drake Chrome Heart hoodie.

58:27Chad Johnson:Yeah.

58:28Shannon Sharpe:What am I doing with that? The only time I really wear hoodies, I go to the gym. Yeah. Man, I wish I might spend$40,$50 ,000 for a damn hoodie.

58:39Chad Johnson:Oh yeah, yeah.

58:40Shannon Sharpe:What?

58:41Chad Johnson:Oh yeah, it's pricey out here nowadays.

58:44Joe Johnson:Yeah, it is, and listen, and those that are in the fashion, those that are like really into fashion oh man they eat you up they eat you up they swear down when it comes to fashion and then when you dissect and understand how stuff is made what stuff really costs before they mark it up yes man man please I ain't paying y 'all no mind and I know how it really gets done I know what it costs to actually make you're paying for the name anyway

59:13Shannon Sharpe:that's it Yeah, that's that. That's absolutely it. Man, they had me like that on Cho. I buy stuff, I bought like the, you remember the Letterman jacket, Joe, the Louis Vuitton Letterman jacket. Man, I had about four of them things. I said, man, hey, they done saw this one. This one too designed. Man, I said, huh? Y 'all saw them LB pants I got. Y 'all gonna see them again. Yeah. Y 'all, hey, I ain't got Beyonce and all the money that could wear an outfit one time and let it go to the wayside. That ain't me. But then I say, you know what? Let me get me some jeans. Shelly, get me like three pair of these in just different colors.

59:57Shannon Sharpe:Light blue, acid wash, you know what I'm saying?

1:00:00Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

1:00:01Shannon Sharpe:Let me get that. Let me get something I can, give me some$150,$200 jeans. Man, jeans, I remember jeans with$30.

1:00:09Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:00:09Shannon Sharpe:I remember jeans with$30 a pair. You can't even find Wranglers for$30 a pair.

1:00:17Chad Johnson:Man, you can't get$30 a pair in no damn thrift store. It's high, bro.

1:00:24Shannon Sharpe:I mean, jeans, I'm like, shall it be telling me, I found some great jeans. I said, how much are they? $250. I said, $250,$300 for some jeans? Damn! Do they got$200 in the back pocket?

1:00:38Joe Johnson:You know what? the funny thing about it and when it comes to fashion it's not about price not about price point it's what you wear how you put it together hello it's not what you wear it's how you wear it there you go you know and the clothes the clothes never make you you make the clothes right a lot of people confuse the two and feeling like okay i got a designer i'm fashionable no fashionable is being able to get a twenty dollar thrift shirt and some and some a thirty dollar pair of jeans and being able to put it together and making it look like you paid a lot for it. Basically, you put things together.

1:01:13Joe Johnson:And another thing that got a lot of us, a lot of those players that come into money going broke, is the women. The women. The women have expectations because you live a certain lifestyle, and the value in which they bring to you is nothing but how they look. That's the value. So in order to get access, what you got to do to get access, Uncle Joe? You got to pay. You got to pay to play. And to keep up with that access, you have to keep on paying to play to make sure she don't go deal with nobody else because you want that to feel like that's yours.

1:01:52Chad Johnson:Oh, if that's the case, then, hey, it's best you be by your damn self.

1:01:56Shannon Sharpe:Big Bang will always come. Unless you, Michael. Say it again, Uncle. Big what?

1:02:01Joe Johnson:Big Bang will take Little Bang. There's always going to be somebody to make more than you. every time which is why all the ones that got the most money are all playing around with the same circle no i ain't gonna preach yeah because we are because i already know we we because guess

1:02:15Shannon Sharpe:what the hardest thing about la is because you don't know who dealing with who she might be dealing with an athlete an entertainer a movie director a music producer a rapper you don't know what she got going on. All you know is you see her in a 363 with a Birkin in four different colors and she dressed to the nine every time you see her. How you dress like this at 9 o 'clock in the morning, 11 o 'clock in the morning? What kind of job you got?

1:02:46Chad Johnson:Somebody dropped their bag off of their man. Yes, sir. It's the only way to get them. It's the only way to get their attention. Hold on, hold on. So you mean to tell me that's what Dayton is now in 26. Oh, then I drove the price sky high. Joe, what you mean? He's always been like that. Just a day, Ocho, just for us to hang out. I got the job. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:03:07Shannon Sharpe:Please, Joe. I remember the time I came up in there. See, I hate going. I know y 'all get tired of me saying, but I came up in there, Joe. You get a hair done and some nails. Boy, you in there like swimming. Good, Joe. You good, huh? You in there like swimming, boy, Joe.

1:03:20Chad Johnson:Damn.

1:03:21Joe Johnson:Catacona. I want to take you on a date when you available. Well, I mean, I got to get my head done and you know, I got to get my nails and feet done. I need some to wear something and I need some shoes. Excuse me. Hey, don't worry about it. Hey,

1:03:42Chad Johnson:I've been out the day game for a while, but the price of who had a one up like that?

1:03:50Shannon Sharpe:Hey, look what goody Bob say look up and seen the sun.

1:03:57Chad Johnson:I've been in it for the past few days. Yeah.

1:04:00Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

1:04:01Chad Johnson:Yeah. But I think the thing is, is that once guys realize, bro, at what point is enough enough?

1:04:10Shannon Sharpe:Okay, you want to get you, okay, if you want to get two expensive cars, if you want to say, oh, Chuck, you don't come, like, when I was in Denver, you got to have an SUV. If you're in Texas, you probably can get away with one car. But if you're in Cincinnati or you're in Denver, you're in a place where it gets cold and it snows, you're probably going to get an SUV. And you probably don't want your only vehicle to be an SUV. So you're going to probably want a sedan, be it BMW, Rolls Royce, something like that. So if you want to get two cards, knock yourself out. You know you're going to get mom something.

1:04:43Shannon Sharpe:If you're going to get dad something. If you got a brother and sister, because most of us, we close with our brother and sister. Yes. We really are. You hear the way my brother talks. Like I told him, he was going to be good. He was going to have exactly what I had.

1:04:56Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:04:59Shannon Sharpe:So we're going to take care of everybody taken care of. But at some point in time, bro, you got to stay. I got to put my feet down and say no Hello this five thousand here this ten thousand there that twenty thousand here. Oh that add up man What you doing with that money, right?

1:05:17Joe Johnson:Hey, you know what I I would I would love the I would love to ask athletes right and I know a lot of them will see this You know, and I mean this and no not this is not a disrespectful thing It's this I mean, there's no disrespectful way, you know to my sisters or whoever they're dating right now But I want you to ask yourself this question, right? if you were to take sex out of the equation take sex out of the equation right uncle joe what value based on what you have going on what value does that person bring to you what value outside of being one that takes money from you because that's at the end of the day that's all it is it's just money continuously going out right upkeep obviously for lifestyle what value what just just just think about it it wouldn't be it wouldn't be a lot of value in an ocho for a lot of cash bro i mean yes but it it takes for you to hear that question and then to sit back and think about it okay what does this individual do for me outside of looking good outside of me helping her maintain a lifestyle what value does she bring to me because if you got a hundred dollars and she's taking 50 to 100 at some point that that that to me that is nothing but a liability and because you make so much you always think, ah, it's cool I'm going to make it in oh, the next plate is always the next plate

1:06:38Shannon Sharpe:what happens when that next plate but I don't always worry like that everybody loves the story that I can't how many stories have you heard I came to LA with nothing in my pocket I came to the United States with$40 in my pocket and I turned but there's a lot of people that came with more than that of the damn pocket and ain't got nothing. Hello. We don't hear those stories. No. And it's, look, every, look.

1:07:10Shannon Sharpe:Everybody is not, and when you look at it, you see the income is like, I think the average income is probably$55 ,000,$60 ,000. Not the way they're acting on Instagram today.

1:07:22Joe Johnson:I know, I know, I know. Everybody rich on Instagram.

1:07:26Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, Instagram is make-believe, though, Uncle Ocho. It is. I mean, as much as it is, you know, real people doing real things. All of it. Social, all of it. Twitter. Twitter's just a bigger cesspool than IG. It just creates an illusion that you think they all got it figured the hell out when they don't. Yes.

1:07:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And everybody's selling the program on how to get, I promise you, does KFC give you the secret sauce? No. Does Kane give you the secret sauce? No. Chick-fil-A. So now you're telling me, you created this, you got the secret sauce, and you're going to sell it. You're going to give it away.

1:08:07Joe Johnson:No. No. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Nah, I'm good. You know what? I don't even fault my sisters out here. I don't want it because if you look like that and you're bad and you can get what you want to Play play sister play your game. Do you game? Hey, it's dudes. I hate gonna fall for it every time Every time right every time Hey, I'm a joke I'm thinking about my time, you know during my single days and you know You think I'm gonna chase you and you you added expense. Yeah, man girl man gone about your business man How is it so easy for me to disconnect When me and someone Break up oh man you Fumble what nigga says when do you How you gonna fumble a bill What are you talking about

1:09:01Shannon Sharpe:How you gonna fumble and add an expense Yeah you know what I'm saying as a matter of fact I punted on first down Too But see I was just the opposite Ocho The faster they The faster they ran I had to get my Usain Bolt track shoes I got to try to catch them What I had to try to catch them Joe You was trying to catch him. I tried to catch him, Joe. Oh, yeah, over, Joe. Oh, yeah, so that was just a lesson learned. You had to know. And then, you know, then all of a sudden, I took off running the other way.

1:09:31Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:09:34Joe Johnson:Look at the numbers, Joe. Well, Joe, you know, you marry, you know, and I'm not talking about when I was playing.

1:09:41Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:09:42Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. It's still the same out there. You don't have to be out there to know because the differences between then and now, there are more guys that have more money to play like we were playing back then. We had a little bit of money. They got 40, 50. We tried to do that with a meal or two. They doing that with 40, 50, 60. With another 10, 20, 30 off the field. Wasn't nobody making no 100. Michael Jordan wasn't even doing$100 million a year. They got some of these guys doing$100 million a year when you combine their salaries in endorsements. They got guys doing$100 million. Boy, do you know what you can do with 100 mil?

1:10:19Joe Johnson:Yeah, say it.

1:10:19Shannon Sharpe:Ain't a whole lot of women gonna tell you no. Cause they know what you got.

1:10:25Joe Johnson:Hey, they don't say no, depending on what you making. And the one making that kind of money, they all dealing with the same group of people.

1:10:39Shannon Sharpe:The same. Because they look, we like, listen, I guarantee you, If you look at all the women that Ocho dated, look at all the women that Joe dated, look at the women that I've dated, you're like, hold on, wait a damn minute. Y 'all ain't never been in the same area at the same damn time. And how y 'all get the women that damn little look the same? Built the same?

1:11:04Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you got to realize, where do you go? There's a reason why polar bear eats seals. Because that's what's there.

1:11:13Chad Johnson:Hello.

1:11:13Shannon Sharpe:There's a reason why athletes date the same type, the same woman. That's what's there. You think some arbitrarily random chick can go and get in one of the hot spots in Vegas, Miami, L.A.? Who they let to the clubs?

1:11:32Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:11:33Shannon Sharpe:They got stabbed there. They looking like, come here. How many is it? Four of us. Come on. Come on. They're moving the road. You already know how it goes. Y 'all done seen it?

1:11:49Shannon Sharpe:Hey. Because they know the good-looking chicks going to get the guys with the money to spend money. Because what are the guys that got money going to try to do for the good-looking chicks? Impressive. Yeah. And how do I impress them, Nocho? I get me a section. And I get, hey, let me get that Ace of Spades. Yeah. Hey, let me get some Tito's. Let me get a 1942. Yeah. Let me get some of that, the Casamigo, the Reposado.

1:12:15Chad Johnson:Yeah. Little cranberry, little pine apple juice.

1:12:19Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

1:12:20Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:12:21Joe Johnson:They have a joke. They spend that money, right? They get access.

1:12:25Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:12:25Joe Johnson:They had a fun, right, Joe?

1:12:27Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:12:28Joe Johnson:And they got the kind of money, like a revolving door during that time. There's a window, there's a window of opportunity where you're making this kind of money and you have as much fun as you can. And when you get bored with that one, keep the rotation going.

1:12:40Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey.

1:12:42Joe Johnson:Keep the rotation going.

1:12:43Chad Johnson:Hey, Unc, and when they bring my bottles out, I want them sparkles to be jumping, okay? I want it to look like fireworks over here.

1:12:49Joe Johnson:And I want a sign to come with it, too.

1:12:52Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I want it to come through just like this. Oh, Joe, Joe. Come through with it. Yeah.

1:12:58Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. Hey, as a matter of fact, as soon as you get back over here to the table, I'm talking to the waitress, I want you to pull everybody up a shot. Make sure everybody over here got a shot. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we finna shoot one real quick, yeah. Hey, as a matter of fact,

1:13:12Shannon Sharpe:there a couple out there that look pretty good that ain't in the section. Yeah. Send them one, two. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gonna send them a bottle, huh?

1:13:18Chad Johnson:Huh?

1:13:19Shannon Sharpe:You gonna send them a bottle or bring them in the section? Bring it back, bro, and bring them in there.

1:13:23Chad Johnson:Oh, hold on. Uncle Ocho, I had some hounds with me, boy. They going into other sections, getting girls out of other sections. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:13:30Shannon Sharpe:See, that'll cause a fight, yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to tell you.

1:13:32Chad Johnson:Yeah, I had some hounds with me, boy.

1:13:34Shannon Sharpe:Well, hold on, hold on. You know you a I'll try a I'll try to be as inconspicuous as possible But I already know how that's gonna be because dude ain't gonna let you try to show him up now Hmm, you know you think oh you think are you that right?

1:13:50Joe Johnson:She chose me right right right hey do me a favor right was there because y 'all know I Never I don't club often. I have a club because I don't drink alcohol So I don't know what it's like to go into a section and buy bottles so when we make that trip to Houston right? Can you show me what it's like to be in the club?

1:14:08Shannon Sharpe:I don't drink at the club. The only time I drink Ocho is that if I'm right here on Club Shayshaun I got a La Porte event. I don't go to no club and drink because more times than not I drive and I'm not going to Hey

1:14:25Chad Johnson:when we go out then I'm going to be the only one sipping on something. Y 'all ain't going to sip that? You know what I'm saying?

1:14:30Shannon Sharpe:We're going to go to the club and I'm going to keep tipping and sipping. You know what I'm saying? Five for the bottom and five for the bottom and top. Five for the top, five for the bottom is all to get those pants to fall. You know what I'm saying. Keep on tipping the tipping. One more time, DJ. Anytime we do, you won't know. Good morning. Give it up on page one for the beautiful. Chocolate. Oh, you don't need no appointment. Hey, Diamond's on stage two. Come on down, girls. Ah, ah, ah, ah.

1:14:56Joe Johnson:Hey, matter of fact, this is what I'm going to do. Hey, Unc. So, I'm going to have my car area 29, right?

1:15:02Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

1:15:03Joe Johnson:five, six bottles of that La Porte. I'ma already have it on deck. Then you gonna buy your own stuff and it gonna come out with the La Porte with the sparkles on there. Come out with sparkles? Hey, we gonna have a sign too. The sign say nightcap. Hey. And I'ma have all the chicken come out so I can see what it feel like, man. Like it's getting something popped bottle.

1:15:23Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, Ocho, I ain't gonna tell no lie to you cause it's a sign fly to you. Yes, sir. That La Porte, it gonna get the party started, boy. Yeah, I'm ready.

1:15:33Shannon Sharpe:Jennifer Lewis say hide your money. They broke people around.

1:15:40Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I'm ready.

1:15:42Joe Johnson:I'm ready. Hey, you know, you know, they watching now.

1:15:47Shannon Sharpe:Who that?

1:15:48Joe Johnson:I don't go.

1:15:49Shannon Sharpe:I don't go off. But you thought I'd go in there, you know, get to get a couple of them ones. You know, you had them once. Yeah. Yeah.

1:15:56Joe Johnson:Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now, let me know, because this is new to me. When we go to area 29 we take the trip using please help me so I don't embarrass us

1:16:04Shannon Sharpe:I don't want to Minimum you will need 2 ,500 in ones okay, 2 ,500 and at least

1:16:15Chad Johnson:Joe right, yeah, see they're gonna be a good night for a stripper here. We all got put in 25

1:16:33Chad Johnson:i'm saying so we just throw the whole fire just no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no we're gonna take our time throughout the night but i'm just yeah yes joe hey listen listen

1:16:45Joe Johnson:200$200 because 200 it look real good in that joke yeah yeah we throw it in 20 minute intervals

1:16:52Chad Johnson:hey hey hey listen you know what I don't like I don't like when they bring out our money and then it's like a herd of strippers just come like just sitting there staring at us and I don't like our attention

1:17:03Shannon Sharpe:no no no no I already got the ones I picked out hey magic hey you know what I like thank you though I'm positive to you.

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