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24:02Shannon Sharpe:to Bijan, and he went 81 yards. And so that didn't take long until you got the ball back. It wasn't like they were having these grinded-out drives that, you know, 12, 14 plays, 16 plays, 20 plays, 18, 19 plays drives. They didn't have any of those. So Buffalo got to get back to the drawing board. Their defense is – their offense is their defense. Josh Allen normally has to wear that cape. Yes. And when he doesn't wear that cape, they're a very average football team. And that's how most teams are driven. You look at Lamar. When he doesn't have that cape on, now he has a big bringing back, but you still have to pay attention to number eight, Mahomes.

24:45Shannon Sharpe:He normally has to play great in order for them to win. And that's how the teams are situated now. You pay so much money to those guys, and when they don't play well, they look very marginal. They look very average. Yeah. And that's what happened tonight. Buffalo didn't look good tonight. Buffalo hadn't looked good, I don't think, the last two games. I think this is the second game they've lost, right? So this is back-to-back losses for them, Mocho, and they haven't looked good in either game. Sean McNarmid's going to have to do better. He's going to be on the hot seat. You think so? Absolutely.

25:21Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. Wait a minute. Now we talk about the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, we talk about the Buffalo Bills. and they just got approved for new funding for a new stadium. They've been, he's been the coach. He's the defensive coordinator. They got rid of Leslie Frazier. Yes. And at some point in time, the Pagoulas, they're going to want a return on that investment, which means getting to the Super Bowl. I'm tired of being the bridesmaid. I'm tired of attending everybody else's wedding and everybody else getting married except I. yeah I just I just don't see it maybe you see it a little different than me you maybe you see it a little differently than I do when I when I look at the bills obviously they're going to always come out the AFC East they're going to do that they're always going to be in contention so there's a chance that if they will they will be maybe in the AFC championship but I wouldn't see the pagoulas pulling the trigger that fast knowing that you already have a quarterback in place yes against somebody else to coach you you think so what's so at what point in time do i keep hitting my head on the ceiling and realize this is how i can go uh damn because look i don't care how big an animal is supposed to get but if you confine him into an environment he's only going to get so big he'll go to the confines of that environment right maybe maybe and i don't advocate anyone losing their job sean mcdermott is taking him as far as he can take him i mean at some point it happened tony dungy got fired oh yeah i remember And John Gruden did what?

26:54Shannon Sharpe:He came in the first year and did what? With the Super Bowl. Okay. With Keyshawn. We saw that with Mark Jackson and the Golden State Warriors. We see that a lot. We saw that with Phil Jackson with the Lakers. It happens. Mm-hmm. I don't know. Especially a team like that, that's so high power when Josh Allen is on, there's certain mistakes that they can't make in the playoffs that have haunted them. And most of the time, I hate the fact that the coach get blamed for the mistakes that the players make in important games where moments matter most. But I kind of get what you're saying, but I kind of don't because they're so good when Josh Allen is on.

27:36Shannon Sharpe:I didn't pay a guy$300 million for the regular season. That's not what I gave him$260 plus million fully guaranteed for. He's already been to the championship. How many times have he been to the championship game? And we see them, he keeps losing to who? Be it Kansas City at home or on the road, it does not matter. Yeah, yeah. He got to get over that hump, boy. Look, the Pagoulas, they got funding for a new stadium. They're going to have a new stadium in Buffalo. Yeah. And I know, look, when he wins 10 games, that's not good. 12 games, that's not good enough. They have underachieved. They got one of, no matter what you think of him, they have to have one of the three best quarterbacks in football.

28:30Shannon Sharpe:And they've had this type of high-powered offense for the longest. Yes. And every year that they don't get it done, this was supposed to be the year they take down Patrick Mahomes. This was supposed to be the year. Remember, Buffalo went in there and beat them. They had, oh, we want Patrick Mahomes. We got Patrick Mahomes and he got to come to Buffalo. He went to Buffalo, put foots in him. They go to Kansas City. He put foots in him. So it doesn't matter. At some point in time, Ocho, we've got to get to the promise. You had that conversation? Yeah. Yes. I'm telling you. Okay. I remember people told me I was crazy when I said Penn State is going to get tired of James Franklin.

29:10Shannon Sharpe:Now the AD said exactly what I said. It played a role that he couldn't beat the big time teams. He beat one team in the top ten in the Big Ten and that was 2016 when he beat Ohio State He's 4-21 against top ten opponents. I say they gonna get tired of that now You can't beat the team that you can't beat the big-time teams and now you losing the team You should never lose to lose to yeah Yeah, I mean I think I may oh man man you reach it He was just in the college football playoff last year. Now. Where is he at now? Yeah We get we go talk up. We're gonna talk about we're gonna talk about that We'll talk about it a little later.

29:44But I'm telling you, Ocho, these owners, they see in order to beat the man,

29:54Shannon Sharpe:you got to feel you have a man. They feel they got a guy that can go toe-to-toe with Patrick Mahomes. They feel they got a guy that can go toe-to-toe with Lamar Jackson, with Joe Burrow, whatever quarterback that you have in the AFC that you're going to need to stand toe-to-toe with and come out of the AFC to get to the Super Bowl, they feel they got one in 6 '5", 245-pound Josh Allen. Yes, sir. Now, the Pagoulas want to know why we keep coming up short.

30:25Okay. I hate that the onus always falls back on the coach, especially in games like that, especially in playoffs, where you're turning the ball over, where you're fumbling. and the coach, he got no control over that. But I mean, that's the business. That's the way it works.

30:45Shannon Sharpe:Let me ask you a question. Did they give Sean McVay credit for when they won the Super Bowl? Yeah. Okay. Did they give Coach Belichick any credit for winning them Super Bowls? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can't get all the credit when things go well and then don't want any of the blame when they don't. Because guess what? What you just said. Now, you said the quarterback, the coach, don't fumble the ball and he don't do this and that. But when they win, he don't throw no touchdowns either. He don't get no sacks. He don't get no strip sacks, no scooping scores. But he gets credit. It's funny how that work, huh?

31:23Shannon Sharpe:It absolutely is. But I definitely did not see – I didn't see Buffalo struggling early.

31:39Shannon Sharpe:especially after the way they came back in that game that game the first game against the Ravens I thought they I was like okay well you look at the schedule like okay and it's really not surprising that it did I know Lamar played but seeing how the Ravens have looked since that game it's not surprising that they did come back and win that okay it was it was only a It was only a matter of time before the scabble and that came off and everything was exposed defensively. Now, having Lamar out, it just shows how valuable he is and how he's taking a team that just is god-awful, which they're not. They're just playing bad right now.

32:20Shannon Sharpe:No, the defense is bad. Now, the defense had their best game on Sunday. Yeah. Because the Rams are really good offensively. You got Puka, they got Devontae, they got Higbert. tight end. Kyron Williams can run the football. We know Matthew Stafford can throw it with the best quarterbacks in the NFL. And that defense is really, really good. The Rams got a really good defense. I thought the Ravens played their best game defensively. They got no help offensively, especially from the quarterback position. Cooper Rush was awful. I mean, I'm not breaking news to anybody and everybody knows that. He's been awful.

33:01Shannon Sharpe:Everybody thinks they have a great backup until the backup actually has to play. There's a reason the backup is the backup, aren't you? Yeah, you come in off the bench, Ocho, the starter goes down somewhere in the game, and you come in like, oh, yeah, we got us a backup. But what happens when he has to play for an extended period of time, which Cooper Rush has had to do? Yeah. It'd be nice to have one that can keep your team head above water. That's all you need. That's it. But it's hard, though. it's hard Ocho for the simple fact is is that you can't you know you used to have a guy that was you know eight nine ten years in the league you could pay him a decent salary now you gotta like hope a guy can develop on your bench or you get a guy that that was that was a career backup a career journeyman or something like that it's hard like think about it Steve Young was on the 49ers he just saw it for years and years and years and years.

34:01Shannon Sharpe:Ain't nobody doing that no more, Ocho. He sat for four, right? No, hell no. He got there in like 87. He sat 88, 89, 90, 91. Joe got hurt in 92. Okay. And he won the MVP. They traded Joe in 93. Dang. So he saw it for about six years. Joe went to Kansas City, huh? He did. Yeah. He did.

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35:29Shannon Sharpe:Oh, that's crazy. Ocho, the NFL suspended Brian Branch for one game for hitting Juju Smith-Schuster. Excuse me. Branch stand to forfeit$76 ,624 for his one-game suspension. Branch is appealing the suspension. NFL vice president of football operation, John Runyon. Boy, boy, this ain't something. Your aggressive non-football acts was entirely unwarranted, poised to a serious risk of injury, and clearly violated the standard of conduct and sportsmanship expected of NFL players. Your conduct reflected poorly on the NFL and has no place in our game. Branch, I did a little childish thing. But I'm tired of people doing a little childish thing, okay?

36:22Shannon Sharpe:But I'm tired of people doing stuff between the plays and the ref. Don't catch it. They be trying to bully me out there, and I shouldn't have to have did what I did. It was childish. Come on. Come on, bro. You know how this – you played football too long. Ocho, we know how to get somebody back. If they're doing stuff to us to make it look like a play. So you doing this after that wasn't – no, no, no. That was reckless, bro. And I understand we're human. There's a human element of it. But what you should have done is just walked onto the locker room. You already know you boiling. You know that, Ocho.

37:02Shannon Sharpe:Just go. Head to the locker room. Because you did all that talking. Now, think about how when they winning. Let me ask you a question. Had they won, do you think he would have done that? If the same thing, if the same course of action, He said Juju hit him in his back, and it was right there in front of the referee, and the ref didn't do anything. Had they won this game, Ocho, do you believe Brian Branch would have acted in the manner in which he acted? No, I don't think so. But I think, you know what else happened? He was antagonizing not only all game. The toss crack, he came down, he caught Brian Branch.

37:40Brian Branch, obviously, you got to know that somebody got to call that out too. Yes. Somebody got to call it. They didn't call it out. He got Brian real good on. hitting right in the side of the air hole. Yes. After the game, goddamn Juju must have been antagonizing during the game. He had the nerve to come up and try to shake his hand. Yeah. He was playing games in the game.

38:00Shannon Sharpe:Man, stop. Hey, bro, how you doing? Hey, Ocho, no hard feelings. Whatever happened in the game, happened in the game. We leave it in the game, Ocho. Right, right. Hold on. What's that? If it's in the game, it's in the game. Game, yeah. EA. EA. Okay. If it's in the game, it's in the game. We left it in the game. Ocho. That might be personal, huh? That might be personal. Think about it. They should have been stealing on us. I should have been getting stealing on us every game because all I did was talk. Oh, okay. Ocho, think about it. All you did was talk. Yeah. But see, you know, our stuff, well, my stuff, my stuff wasn't malicious.

38:36My stuff was fun. Yours, I don't know if yours was different.

38:40Shannon Sharpe:It all depends on what you wanted to talk about. Right. Because we could take it there.

38:49Shannon Sharpe:we can take it there you want to make it personal we'll make it personal if you want to keep it about athletic ability you're not very good we can take it there but if you want to take it to another place we can go there too hey I'm going to make sure whatever you give me I'm going to give it back to you plus shipping and handling because I need to make sure you get it and like I said anybody with the exception of B Cox anybody that did something dirty to me in the game I got their ass back I made it look just like a play I cut a dude in the charges put him out for the rest of the year I will get you back man you and my I got a family to feed you didn't think about that my family you don't give a damn about my family I give less than a damn about yours I can't play with his knees though I can he played with my knees yeah it's a game hey don't you want to play this game mocho yeah I understand but you know once that knee go out you know most of the time you're never the same unless you Adrian Peterson you ain't never the same he didn't think about that when he hit me in my knee yeah I got you I got you oh so you want me to you want me to think about his knees when he gave less than a damn about mine hey just a thought of that so what about my grandma what about my sister what about my kids.

40:13Shannon Sharpe:No, I'm going to get you back. I'm going to get you back. I'm not going to hurt my team. I'm not going to get a penalty to hurt my team, but I will get you. Oh, guess what? You got a teammate. I get him. Right. Y 'all know how I deal with the family. You in the family, in the streets. If I can't get you, I get somebody close to you. Okay. Okay. It sound like you sound like with the YNs now, okay. Nah, hey. All I, hey. How we do, all I needed to know at the game, how we doing this? Snap the whistle or snap to after the whistle? Because I can do it either way. It don't make me no never mind. Right.

40:57So, nah.

41:00Shannon Sharpe:You're not finna do that. You're not finna cheap shot me and think I ain't finna get you back. Well, I think we played the Falcons one time. and they caught me with that cheap shot. I think whoever the defensive coordinator was that time in 2007, they told them to do that. They told whoever the safety was at that time. I can't remember the safety's name. I mean, the play was clearly over and the head, the coach, whoever the defensive coordinator, maybe the head coach, I need y 'all to get Chad off his game. Just hit him after the play. I'm talking about Unc, I'm clean walking back to the huddle.

41:33Dude came full speed. Full speed, clean my clock. and the rep came and grabbed me so that's how y 'all want to play? That's how we're going to play? Well obviously I wasn't a physically imposing type player but man I lit their ass up after that. That's the game I did the little salsa celebrate. Oh yeah. I had me a day.

42:02Shannon Sharpe:We had a what you call them? as a matter of fact we was playing the Bengals don't do that no it wasn't us it wasn't us I took out the whole defensive line I did a text block how you took out everybody they tripped up they had to leg whip everything I got the guy that was inside of me I cross body him and then I leg whipped the guy that tried to jump got him Wait, they ain't called a leg whip? Joe didn't. Yeah, they must not have been used to seeing it back then. Hey, I'm going to get you back, Ocho. I got to. It's a must. Bro. I forget my – damn, man, my bad. I thought I was blocking. Yeah. John done zoomed one by my ear.

42:52Shannon Sharpe:I'm just going to get – I'm going to get the corner.

42:57Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to ask, look at 97 and see who the starting cornerback was for outside of Dale Carter. And I forget the other guy, but man being him. And New Orleans, New Orleans. No, he was at Kansas City, 97 starter. And he was for, we used to battle. Warfield, right? Nah. Oh, he was there. I think that was like 2000. That was the 2000. Okay. I'm tripping. My bad. they had done got soft in but you know dealing with DC and the other dude I can't think of his name oh man oh we used to oh we used to battle Ocho oh when I say we battle yeah I mean sometimes hey they would just put me outside say we don't want you to just run him over just fight him okay Hey, just give me a couple of passes.

43:57Shannon Sharpe:Let me keep my streak alive. One catch, one catch a game. I'm good. How do you want to do it?

44:08Shannon Sharpe:Hey, who was the lead? D.C. was the left corner. Who was the right corner? James Hastie. Oh, I remember James Hastie. James Hastie. Hey, Chad, me and Hastie used to battle. because he tried to poke the receivers. I'm not it. Not me. Hey, James. I told him I'd say SHRPE. I don't play them games.

44:40So you was there with Dave. Remember I caught Dale Carter with the Ravens with Prime.

44:45Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I played a year with DC and Denver. I mean, yeah. He came to us. DC came, what year was DC? Like 90, like mid-90s, like 95, 96? And then he played with me, but, you know, him and Hastie, you know, as a homeboy. Yeah. Just, hey, let's make sure we stay homeboy because they got nothing to do with you. It got to do with him. Right. Me and, what you call them, me and DT fell out by that, rest his soul. Derek Thomas? I was getting into it with Wayne Simmons. I made sure. I never cut DT. Never. Never tried to crack back on him or anything. Me and Wayne Simmons getting into it. He came. I'm like, I said, DT, this ain't got nothing to do with you.

45:41Shannon Sharpe:Leave that alone. Well, it got something to do with me now. Uh-oh. Yes.

45:51Shannon Sharpe:I said, let's not. Hey, Ochoa, I said, I said, bro, bro, this ain't your fight. Right, right. Let his, Wayne Simmons rest his soul. He tragically lost his life in an automobile accident. Yeah. But, bro, mm-mm. Once I go in. It's a wrap. It's on. Pittsburgh, Earl, Earl. uh what was the dude name earl holmes earl holmes oh he snuck and got me too he got me though he got me oh man that joke yeah if you go back and look at it i was mic'd up and we uh we scored a touchdown and i went to him i said we're gonna take advantage of you you the weak link right you that's you Earl was the mic back then yeah he was he was a plug because you know back then they ran the 3-4 so yeah they had the mic the plug, the Sam and the wheel oh yeah he got me but he said this was a bro no a child is somebody walking off and you kick the back of their foot and they trip this ain't no childish, that's grown man behavior bro you Ocho you know why they got it yeah because the whole world is watching that game oh yeah absolutely and they tried to go to commercial and they get this no though we can't go to commercial we can't go to commercial now everybody see that yeah and you saw the picture of Juju it looked like what yeah I got it Ocho that's a meme oh man come on now hey hey they ain't that road a little scuffle every blue moon every blue moon keep it keep it exciting keep it exciting every blue moon what do you think if it what you think you're gonna shove me in my face and i'm just gonna just let that walk we the boat the only thing i hate juju congratulations juju you able to do it yeah hey everybody keep your hands to yourself that's the number one rule keep your hands to yourself.

47:57Shannon Sharpe:You ain't got no kids this age. So don't put your hands on me. Boy, a whole new football game would have been played on that field. I don't know if that field, that turf got tore up, but it got tore up after that. And Juju, Juju came back, he was like, he ain't coming over the field. Come on, man. Pacheco got the dude, and the dude grabbed your face mask and still throw you down? hell no hey good ain't nothing like a good old squabble this is about to my lead podcast the state of podcast to lead football to real men I guess you didn't know what I did before I started podcasting

48:47Shannon Sharpe:I don't know if he gonna win this appeal I mean oh that's a lot of money that's a game check they're taking away from him Wait, how much did you find him? 76 ,000. 76 ,624, a game check. I know he'd go get a game for that. Ocho, the whole world saw that. Yeah. It's the same thing with Carter. Jalen Carter. Jalen Carter. Had it happened in the game, he'd have got suspended. But because he got ejected, and when you get ejected, X, Y, and Z, that's why they didn't suspend him. Oh, I already knew he was getting a game. He was going to get that game. And the whole world saw that? They watching? They might be a little...

49:35Shannon Sharpe:NFL ain't going to let you... They don't do everything they can to protect that shield, Ocho. You know that. If they fined you for your socks roll down... Ocho, how many times do you think I got fined for socks roll down? Now they let the guys cut their jersey. We tried to cut our jersey and that was$5 ,000,$10 ,000. Y 'all owe me about$150 back. Listen, I cut mine and had it sold. It had it sold so it stopped right at the waistline. Yes. Got in trouble for that. Got in trouble for my socks being too low. Got in trouble for wearing gold cleats. I used to cut the towel in the bathroom. Yeah. And made a little streamer hanging off the side.

50:12No, you can't hang in a note.

50:13Shannon Sharpe:It's got to be an NFL issue. Man, listen, I take the fine. The black chin strap, the orange chin strap. Man, I ain't mad. what you have with my because I used to have a blue. I got a white one but I used to have I used to have a blue one. Yeah. No. That's well.

50:47Shannon Sharpe:I acted I acted right when I got to Baltimore. I didn't do all that right but nah you uh guys this is how it normally works in an nfl game if you cheap shot somebody they go to hell and beyond to get you back but in the process of that they make it look now sometimes they just don't give a damn they're just like i'm gonna take the i'm gonna take the 15-yard penalty i wasn't willing to put my team in harm's way by taking a 15-yard penalty so now I got to get your ass back, but I got to make it look like I'm blocking you But I'm gonna get you back That's me When you do when you take it here after there's no play going on Ocho everybody's decompressed Hey boy, how you doing man?

51:35Shannon Sharpe:Good to see you man, man. Hey good game, man. Hey, Ocho, man You ballin' day, man. Congratulations to a big one. Hey, we'll see y 'all down the road. We'll see y 'all again So forth and so on. So ain't nobody thinking about that, right? Once the game's over, I'm done. Now, if I'm ticked off about something, I'm going straight to the locker room. I'm not mingling around because I already know. See, me, Ocho, I'm a terrible loser. I'm a worse winner. So, you've been talking. Oh, you've been talking, talking? And we win? Oh, I got to stay out there, Ocho. I got to stay out there. Yeah, and, you know, in Brian Branch's defense, obviously the game was over.

52:16Juju went up to him. So in a sense, he damn near provoked him.

52:20Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, the man stuck his hand out. All you had to do was walk by. So if somebody walked by to shake your hand and they mush you in the face, you provoked him, Ocho, because you stuck your hand out. You see how that sounds? You stick your hand out to shake somebody's hand. They mush you in your face. Yeah, I know how the optics of it look. But I also know that goddamn those folks in that appeal office, whoever you got appealed to, they seen the goddamn game. Jay Thrash and Brooks. So Merton Hanks don't do it no more? Uh-uh. Yeah. Runyon took, John Runyon took Merton's job. Okay. Yeah, goddamn Hanks.

52:58Shannon Sharpe:But Thrash, you appeal either to James Thrash or Brooks, Derek D.B., Brooksie. And then it goes to, so Runyon hands it out, and then you appeal it to Thrash and Brooks. Okay. but just bro he got you so let me ask you a question Ocho you think that's the first time that Brian Branch has ever been hitting a clip in the back oh probably probably not a toss crack no no absolutely not but I think if you play safety of course yeah but Juju is one who's known to to get under people's skin he's done it before yes and he got he got him good to get to get Brian branch to break characters like that in a game, not only during the game, but after the game as well, you know it had to be something serious.

53:50Shannon Sharpe:He couldn't play in the 90s and 2000s, because what was he going to do with Heinz Ward? What was he going to do with Heinz Ward? That's a different ball game. He upset about Juju? They changed the rule because of Heinz Ward. Remember what Juju did to Burfecht? Remember you got Burfecht? Yes. I remember what Hines did to Keith Rivers. And Broke's jaw? Yeah. Yes. They outlawed the blindside block because of him. Sapp was the one that they put the defense can't crack back on because when Sapp got Chad Clifton, and I think what he just dislocated his hip. That sounds familiar, Chad Clifton. He was an offensive lineman.

54:37Shannon Sharpe:Tampa got a pick. He was chasing and Sapp peeled back. I think he dislocated his hip. That's why him and the head coach was going into it. And Sapp told him, you're so tough, put a helmet on. You're so tough, put a helmet on. I remember that game. I remember that game.

55:00Shannon Sharpe:Man, it's football. God, Ocho, you know you're going to get clipped. You're going to get hit. It's football. Something's going to happen. For me, once the game is over, if I didn't get your ass back in that game, hopefully it's a division opponent because I see your ass again, either at your place or ours. And I'm going to remember too. I'm not going to forget. Oh, I'm like an elephant. I won't forget it. Yeah. The best memory of all. Is get back. But look, I think the thing is that just take ownership. you see how Dan Campbell was Dan Campbell said I love him but he said that ain't who we are take hey just take ownership of it it was my bad I let my emotions get the best of me you want to appeal it I ain't got no problem yes appeal it but to say this was a little childish thing

56:01little little A little seven, a little seven. A little scrum.

56:06Shannon Sharpe:A little scrum. Nah, nah, nah. Ocho, after Tua dimed out his teammates during last night's press conference, Mike McDaniel said today he believes Tua could have handled things differently. Yeah, by not throwing three interceptions. Let's take a listen to what the head coach had to say. After a loss as the franchise quarterback, that's not the forum to displace that. I think he knows that now. I do honestly believe it was not, there's no ill intention, but you're talking about, you know, I think kind of a misguided representation of player orchestrated film sessions. and you know the bottom line is no one's going to be happy and always is looking for reasons for failure to succeed so you're trying to look for reasons that you know you can attribute to losses and there's a you know heavy as the crown of being a franchise quarterback I think you know What I do know is that he's directly communicated with a lot of guys started with last night, and that's what teammates do, and you live and you learn.

57:30Shannon Sharpe:What's wrong with Mike, huh? He beat. Bro, he knows it's over, Ocho. He knows it's over. I know. It just doesn't seem right. Not only that, but the way you lose it and you know after the end of the year, it might become before the end of the year. You see, we're going to talk about the Tennessee situation. How Callahan, after a year and a half, he got dismissed, which is seemingly not shocking. Because if you go look at most of the last number one overall draft picks in the last 10 years, only two coaches have remained the entire season. And they were fired and one of them was fired after the season.

58:10So with that being said, Tua, if film study, if this is something that you guys instituted, you

58:25Shannon Sharpe:being a captain, you're responsible for making sure everybody shows up and how important it is to be on time. That's not Mac McDaniel's job. Now, if they show up late to his meeting, they ain't got nothing to do with it. Yeah, you try to say, hey, come on, guys. Let's be professional. Let's be pros. Profession is our occupation. We're professional football players. A pro is how we go about our business. We show up on time. That. Now, if you had team individual, let's say wide receiver, you got film study, or we got film study as an office. As the captain, it's my job to make sure and explain it clearly, concise.

59:08Shannon Sharpe:It starts at this time. Guys, this kind of what got us in this situation, we started letting things slip. We started letting one minute turn to two minutes, turn to three minutes, turn to five minutes, and guys started walking theirself eight, nine, ten minutes after. We see guys start coming, you know, running on the field with the pads un-thing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That wasn't happening. That can't happen. And so you have to make them, have to hope they understand the importance. but it's hard because I don't think people look at Tua as a leader. That's his problem. Hey, you know what?

59:46I have to say something. If they didn't see Tua as a quarterback, number one, if they didn't see Tua as a leader, then they wouldn't have paid him what they paid him, huh?

59:55Shannon Sharpe:No. Tell me what choice they have.

1:00:01Shannon Sharpe:Now, Brian Flores wanted Justin Herbert, the owner. wanted to. So guess who won? Could you imagine? Didn't play that Brian Flores came from Bill Belichick. You know damn well, you're not walking in the team meeting. You're not walking the individual meeting. You're not walking into meetings late. You're not walking into practice late. You're going to be at the plane on time, but they didn't like that. That was too difficult. So now this is what you got. Yeah. Former Dolphins wide receiver Deshaun Hamilton says Tua himself showed up late for the first team meeting and nobody seemed to care. Doesn't seem like his fellow players respect him or see Tua as the leader of the team.

1:00:44Shannon Sharpe:Oh, who said from the outside? Look at it. He played with Tua. Who said that? What's his name? A former teammate, Deshaun Hamilton. Damn, man. That's not good when they come out talking, talking, talking about you like. All I know as a former NFL player with 14 seasons under my belt and being a leader, I know what leadership looks like. And I know when people respect you as such. Right. They don't. Now, they're going to come out. Listen, they're going to come out and say all the things. They're going to say, you know, everything is cool. But they don't. I've been there. I've said things about a locker room and everybody attacked me.

1:01:27Shannon Sharpe:And then after the season, it started leaking out. Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Hey, I'm going to take it on the chin. Oh, hey. They don't. They don't. I promise you, it wasn't very often when things weren't going well. Hey, guys, let's have a quick meeting. Right. It is wide receivers. Let's meet right quick. Hey, let's get together as an offensive group. No call outs? No, we have to call nobody out. But everybody, hey, we got a quick meeting, such and such. Hey, after everybody walk out the field, hey, hold on for just a second. Right. But that was a respect level that they have to have for you.

1:02:09Shannon Sharpe:But you can't ask more than you're willing to give. See, you can't ask somebody to be on time and then you show up late. You can't ask somebody to give their all and you don't. You can't ask somebody to take a needle to the butt, to the knee, to the back, to whatever, to the shoulders, to the ribs when you won't. Right. You never ask more than you're willing to give yourself. Don't ask somebody to come in in shape and your fat ass out of shape. That's how I operate. It's really simple. Guys know, man, look, I already know Sharp going to be on time. I already know Sharp and he's getting his rest.

1:02:44Shannon Sharpe:I already know Sharp studied his stuff. That's how you got the lead. See, everything Tua said could have been true, but you can't say that after you turn the ball over three times. because it make it seem like you didn't take your ass to the meeting because you were throwing the ball right to him. You see how that – see, timing has a lot to do with when and what you say, Ocho. Right. You can't – now, if Tua goes out there, Ocho, he throws for 400, got four touchdowns. Oh, he good. He good you. Say whatever you want. But you go out there and you throw three picks. So I want to know, but them guys coming in late in the meeting, them guys not coming in the meeting, how did that cause you to throw those three interceptions?

1:03:34Shannon Sharpe:I just don't believe it. I could be totally wrong. I doubt it. I don't believe the bulk of those guys look at him as the true leader of that team. Let me ask you a question. If Patrick Mahomes called the team meeting and said, okay, guys, I want to receive blah, blah, blah. You think they're coming in late? No. If Lamar Jackson calls that, if Josh Allen, because you said he's a franchise quarterback, franchise quarterbacks call things, people show up. Right.

1:04:06Shannon Sharpe:It didn't do him any good. What was his quote about whether he lose, he goes home to his kids and they're happy to see him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no matter what. Even though that might be true, you can't say that. Right.

1:04:23that's tough that's tough especially especially the part about your players your players that in the locker room that are supposed to view you listen they voted you captain if everybody voted you captain it was i'm assuming it was you bro stop it you know good damn well how that that that rig voted system i don't know i don't know i just never seen never seen a team or or I think more stuff is going to come out. More stuff is going to unravel as things get worse, you know. I mean, they can only go up from here.

1:04:59Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I'm not on social media. I go home, see my kids, whether I throw five picks or five touchdowns, we win the game, we lose the game. I get to come home to my kids who are happy to see me every time. Bro, you think I want to hear that? No, no. I'm happy you get to go home. I'm happy you get to go home. I'm happy I am happy that it does I'm sad I'm disappointed that it don't bother you because guess what it bothers me because I knew what I put in so that tells me you're not putting enough in because when you put something in Ocho chat you know this when you put something in when you work really really hard for something and it doesn't go well it bothers you yeah and for him it not to bother him?

1:05:41Yep.

1:05:42Shannon Sharpe:That's that. Hell to the no. Now see, I'm going to have a problem with him, Mocho. I'm going to have a problem because it's got to matter to you. It's got to matter. And it don't matter enough to it. Listen, everything matters to different people in different ways. Some people handle it and show it in different ways. Somebody might show his a little different than you show yours. You might be a little bit more, more boisterous, a little boisterous. Name a great player. I'll tell you what, go interview any great player. Right. In anything in business, they work really, really hard to close this deal.

1:06:23Yes.

1:06:24Shannon Sharpe:They didn't close. Ask any great, I'm talking about, I mean, I would like to think he's trying to be great. They're paying him to be great. Absolutely. named a great player that have failed at something and then well i got to go home to my kids

1:06:46Shannon Sharpe:i don't like the way you see it like that i'm just saying it's funny it's funny how i hear people and i hear these people that's worth billions and billions of dollars they built these companies They say, guys, you expect to work 36 to 40 hours a week. You expect to have this X, Y, and Z and be great and have this enormous wealth and have work-life balance? If you want work-life balance, that's fine. That's fine. But I just go talk to the great. Ask Michael Jordan how he felt when he lost. Ask Kobe. Ask Braun. Ask John Elway. Ask Peyton. Ask Tom Brady. Ask Ray. Ask any of the greats because I think that's what he aspires to be.

1:07:37Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's what you play the game for. But, Ocho, let's just say for the sake of argument, that's the case. Don't say that. Everything, see, everything is not meant to be said. You might feel a certain way about a certain thing. just keep it to yourself. Because you know how a lot of guys because a lot of guys, it bothers them to lose. Because they put a lot into it. That's not to say to a don't. Just keep that to yourself. Yeah. It's going to be tough, man. I hope Mike McDaniels make it. I don't know if he is. If he's going to make it, it's all going to be on Tua's shoulders.

1:08:23You know, as Tua goes, the rest of that team goes, especially offensively. You let one slip away from you last week, something's going to have to turn around.

1:08:32Shannon Sharpe:I think, Ocho? Yeah. I don't think McDaniel's going to be there next year. No. The question is, the next coach, you got money tied up in him. How can I, does the next coach believe, because here's the thing. They're probably going to say, what can you do with Tuba? Because you know that's what happens, Ocho. Yeah. Everybody coming in there, I can do this, I can get this out of him, I can make him blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Everybody is selling. They're going to sell a dream every time. You know it. They're going to sell a dream every time. The World Cup is underway and it's been incredible.

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