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20:55That's all. That's all. Ocho. That's all. I talked to Joe earlier today. I said, Joe, I'm not going to be able to make it because I have obligations with the little one. They moved what she had to do up because she has to prepare for a tennis tournament this weekend. That's all. Now we make it a little bit more complicated than we should. It's a serious matter. You're telling me about a basketball game versus my child's daughter, my daughter's birthday. you the one that recommended you go to the game he didn't go to the game okay what are we arguing

21:33Shannon Sharpe:about saying you what are we arguing about thing by staying for your child's birthday so why are we even making an instruction no one is saying oh cho uh oh now how you gonna go to a game when you hey when you when you have something to do important do i say anything no i don't I don't I don't I don't so why y 'all making a big thing Ocho but hey We talk about a bad we talk about a basketball game Ocho but here this is why and chat now you understand this is why I don't commit Because things come up and to make that commitment. That's why when people say Shannon, can you do this? Shannon, can you go there?

22:11Shannon Sharpe:I can't commit because I got so many things going on that I don't know So even though Shelly has my schedule six weeks two months in advance Something might come up just like that and I can't I can't avoid

22:27Anything at all right now they had nothing to do anything. Hey, I need you here for your child's birthday We got to move it up her birthday is tomorrow. So we had to move that cuz I got fly why you couldn't move it back Move it back. We're the birthday. What is the birthday? How about her birthday's tomorrow? Okay Okay, so I'm not here tomorrow. My flight's at 9 no more. Hold on, Ocho. Okay, how about this here? Happy birthday. Hey, hold on. Hey, matter of fact, matter of fact, I'm going to give you your number so you can explain to her not to do that no more. Ocho, why you got to do all this for me?

23:04Because we're making it more than what it really is. We talk about a basketball game. You act like I'm supposed to be at the goddamn White House or something. come on Ocho happy birthday

23:24Shannon Sharpe:man I'm just saying I'm just saying Ocho come on man but I understand Ocho I understand I ain't talking with somebody I don't play when it comes to my kids I don't care what I got to do I don't I don't care and anybody don't like it you know what time it is i mean no disrespect no no disrespect to the chat and and you i'm just saying some people trying to make jokes that he he ha ha he he ha ha hell

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28:02Shannon Sharpe:Which I suspect they are. They should do a deal to bring DeAndre Hopkins back to Baltimore. What a catch this was. In response, D Hopkins says, how many times after this do you think I was used in the red zone? When targeted, I'm still one of the best, still one of the most productive, but never complain with my snaps and never will. facts. DeHop, who's 33, finished the season with 22 catches, 330 yards, and only two touchdowns. Ocho? I hate when they do this to us. Go ahead. I hate when they do this to us. Hey, chat, I hate when you reach your 30s, as great as DeAndre Hopkins was, as much as what I know he can do and provide for offense, especially one like the Baltimore Ravens, and to be underutilized, understanding how good he is in one-on-one situations, and goal line situations, 50-50 balls, turning to 90-10 when it comes to him, when it comes to making contested catches.

29:00All you got to do is just throw it in the vicinity. He has hands like Larry Fingero. I'm not sure what his drop percentage is, but I'm sure it's up there with some of the best in the NFL like Chris Carter and Larry Fingero. Once you hit your 30s, they continue to weed you out. Obviously, on the team, they don't use you as much, obviously because they more so use the young bulls and the young bucks that they do have, but he's such an extreme talent. Even at 33, I understand the production that he can have, but I hate that they weed you out. It happens to all of us. Julio Jones. I can go down the list of all the great receivers that were great at one time, and they go to teams, and they're underutilized just because of age.

29:46That's the way they weed you out in general. And at some point it's going to come to a point where the game is so young where there's no more opportunities left for you.

29:55Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, you know this. Once you start going every year is year to year. You're only going to be there one year. Yeah. The likelihood of them bringing you back. You saw what happened. He went to Kansas City and he went over here and he went over there. He might as well get accustomed to if he wants to stay for an extended period of time. Yeah. Just says, you know what? I'm a hard gun. I'm here one it's a temp service. Anybody that's in the chat know about a temp service. You're there temporarily. He's going to be on these teams temporarily. They're not looking for DeAndre Hopkins to be a long-term solution.

30:29Shannon Sharpe:He might believe he can and I don't have any reason to believe that he can't. But I'm saying they're not going to give you those opportunities because they don't intend for you to be there after the time in which you are there. Which is basically the football season. Yeah, I hate that. It is what that, Ocho, that's what it is. I know, I know. I hate the way that business works like that, especially when you have a player that is really good at what they do. I mean, really good at what they do and really good at what they've done. But, again, the opportunities decrease. I hate that. I hate that.

31:00If you give him the opportunities like he had when he was in Houston and put him in position to make those plays, he can still make those plays. But, obviously, this is the way the business does most of them.

31:09Shannon Sharpe:I don't know if he's going to ever beat Ocho. They don't do that to Duante. they don't put him in position like he was in Green Bay because it's Puka's team oh yeah oh they're not gonna put him in that because even though we even though Zay Flowers is 5-8-5-9 whatever the case he's their number one receiver he's getting those opportunities and the two tight ends they're gonna get second and third priority and then probably Rashawn Bateman he's gonna get fourth priority so by at best case on the absolute best case scenario yeah D-Hoff is the fifth option. Yeah, but see, you already know the fifth option, don't you already know a very seldom very seldom, but why even bring them in on?

31:48Why? Why even why even bring them in? It makes no sense to me. Yeah, because they know they're not going to use him in the capacity that in order to

31:58Shannon Sharpe:maximize him, you're going to have to use him in the capacity. And I don't know. I don't think he said use him in the red zone. And I think he still can be a valuable, a viable option in the red zone. But they're more apt to run the ball. And when they do throw it, I mean, he had him a couple of times. I mean, Lamar missed him a few times. But for the most part, they're not putting him in situations where he can succeed, which is the red zone. He's never been a guy that had blinding speed. So he's even less fast than he was when he came into the league. But he still has great hands. He still has a huge catch radius.

32:35Shannon Sharpe:So that's why he said, get me in the red zone. Give me some opportunities. let me high point the ball back shoulder me yeah all those things i can still do at a league level go yeah i say and this is the difference between the ravens offense and how you mentioned devontae adams right yeah he led the nfl in touchdowns if i'm not mistaken yeah well yes yes they throw the ball so much over there and devontae adams is still so good obviously still the best he's actually still the best route running the league obviously throw a bomb rossst brown in there as well who's mainly in the slot. But when it comes to outside receivers and it comes to running routes, Devontae is still that guy, which is why his numbers look the way they did.

33:14And they throw the ball so goddamn much over there in L.A. So I think that also, it kind of hurts being the fifth option down there in Baltimore.

33:22Shannon Sharpe:It does. But plus, you're looking at Matthew Stafford. How many back shoulders has he thrown to Calvin Johnson? So now he gets a guy that's not as big as Calvin Johnson, but can throw the back shoulder. It's just automatic. Devontae is one of the best back shoulder catchers in all of football. Especially with Aaron Rodgers. Him and Aaron? You can't stop it. Because if you're behind him, he's going to throw it over the top. If you're on top of him, he's going to throw it behind you. So I'm like, you're like, okay, well, damn, coach, what you want me to do? And like you said, he's still an elite route runner.

33:52Shannon Sharpe:Yes. He still can get it done.

34:01Shannon Sharpe:But they're two different receivers. People don't look at – people still believe that Devontae, that's why he's making max dollars. He's making$20,$25 million a year,$20 million a year, because they still believe he's a viable option, that at worst-case scenario he can be a two, possibly a one, if Puka goes out. Remember at Jacksonville, Ocho, he had three touchdowns. How many games did we see him get three, two touchdowns? I mean, he got 14 touchdowns, then he missed a couple of games. He's still the guy. He's still – some guys are just touchdown magnets. T.O. and Randy. Yeah, yeah. Chris Carter, Jerry.

34:40Shannon Sharpe:Those guys – I get another guy. Antonio Gates. Man, I can never score like Gates. I don't know. I mean, I'm like, damn. I said, man, I'll be watching Gates. I'm like, well, damn. I had retired when he became what he became. And I'm looking at him. I'm like, damn. They get the ball down the red. They get down the 10. They throwing it to him. They're like, well, go get option away. They run Zorro route. They run options. They run stick. They run choice. I'm like, well, damn. But some guys can just score, have that ability to just score the damn football. They have that ability, Ojo. You and I were yardage guys.

35:15Shannon Sharpe:We're going to get yardage. We might have six for$1.20 and no touchdowns. Somebody else is going to come along and have three for 75 and two touchdowns. But that's the way it is. I know he's frustrated, but once you start bouncing around, Ochoa is in Kansas City, and you remember he was in Tennessee. Now he's in Baltimore. It's just a matter of if I'm him and I want to stay in the league. Would you hang it up? Nope, not complaining. Well, he never complained before. Hell, D-Hop don't even talk. That's what I'm saying. Hey, D-Hop, remind me, unless you know him personally and you actually have a conversation with him, he reminded me of Troy Palamalu or he reminded me of Chris Henry.

36:04You know, God, rest in peace. Individuals that play the game and you never, ever hear them talk. I think the last time I heard D-Hop talk is seeing him in person and then obviously when him and goddamn D 'Angelo Hall got into it. Was that hard now?

36:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That practice, that scrimmage. Oh man, that's the first time I ever heard him talk.

36:26So, look,

36:28Shannon Sharpe:I think the wide receivers in that type of a system, the likelihood of them having Ocho, they're not bad to have no 10, 12 touchdowns like you see Devontae and some of these other receivers. That's not their offense. Their offense is not like that. It's a spread it around offense. You know, the tight ends might have between the two of them, might have seven, eight touchdowns between the two of them. Zay might have four or five touchdowns The back's going to have a couple of touchdowns But they're not Like Devontae One guy going to have 18 touchdowns That's not their offense And there's nothing wrong with that Because if you think It would have been interesting to see Give me when Lamar had 41 touchdowns Let's see the distribution of how it would spread out

37:21Shannon Sharpe:because you know hey

37:25Shannon Sharpe:somebody's going to have when a quarterback throws for a bunch of touchdowns somebody's going to have 15 somebody's going to have 14, 15 to 18 you look at when you remember Joe Burrow a couple of years ago when he called it we led the league Chase had 17 had 17 yeah Hey, you ain't going to have no two guys with 17. The quarterback going to throw for 70 touchdowns then. Yeah.

37:59Shannon Sharpe:So, Andrews had 11. Bateman had nine. Likely had six. Wait, Bateman had nine last year? Yeah. Ooh, that was a quiet nine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. So you see one guy in double figures, one guy almost in double figures, and then you have 11, 9, 6, 4, and then it's spread out, dunked down to the running back. You know, Henry might have had two, and then Mitchell might have had one or two, something like that. Mm-hmm. So, look, I get his frustration. In our minds, we're the last ones to see it, Ocho. we're absolutely the last one to see it starts to to dissipate we still we still holding on we still remember what we used to be Ocho yeah but hey but but you know what even if he's a shell of himself that shell of himself is still good yeah it is it's still good and you mentally you feel like you can still do it you just understand just give me the opportunities yes just give me the opportunities yeah why bring me in and not use me what am I doing here veteran presence leadership yeah come on you get you got i don't want i don't want to steal money i want to earn what you paying me hey oh joe you know we get older you know your boy used to hey put the hammer down you know i'm saying debate i put the hammer down on show now i be sweating for no reason

39:28Shannon Sharpe:damn hell yeah Damn. I mean, you know what I'm saying, Ocho? You know, hey, it happens when you younger. Hey. Now they getting up, they cleaning up the house, they washing a load of clothes. I mean, what, damn. Y 'all got that kind of injury? Yeah. I'm sprawled. Hey, Ocho, they got crime scene tape around me. I'm dead. They wash two loads of clothes. They come up there cooking. they do it. Oh man. Hey, I know I ain't the only one. Y 'all laughing. I know I ain't the only one chat. I just say it. I be laying on your life. It ain't used to be like that long.

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43:58Shannon Sharpe:the nfl announced today that over 542 million dollars will be given to nfl players in performance-based pay following the 2025 season the performance-based pays program is collectively bargain benefit that compensates all players based on playing time and salary levels. Cornerback Nashawn Wright led the way$1.4 million in performance-based play. Ronnie Hickman,$1.3 million. Offensive tackle, who was just, he was with Atlanta last year, I think he was with Arizona now, Elijah Wilkinson, that's$1.3 million. They topped the list, as you can see the list right there in front of you. So a lot of these guys are probably lower round picks, Ocho.

44:44Shannon Sharpe:Right. Well, I mean, on bargain contracts. Yeah. And they play a lot. They play in 75, 80, 90 % of the snaps. And this is what you get. Hey, that's a good thing, too. Because most of the guys that are getting these incentives, they probably don't have big salaries, huh? Not yet. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, so this is big. This is big for them. You look at Ronnie Hickman, undrafted free agent. Elijah Alexander undrafted free agent Nick Scott 7th round 7th round 7th round undrafted free agent 4th round 4th round 4th round 3rd round Devin White was a first round pick but that was in 2019 so he's not playing on a big contract right so if you look at the guys there are there's only one guy that's in the top 15 that made that was a first round draft pick everybody else was between third round and an undrafted free agent that's a that's a good little money that's a good little money right there oh yeah i think that came in like when i was like my last two years though cho you know i got a quick little harness a little harness something wait hold on wait you got a quick you buy your incentives yeah well this this this okay because i wouldn't you know i went back on a minimum contract okay i just wanted to go back i didn't want i didn't want to start i didn't want to go to the raiders I didn't want to go to Seattle.

46:08Shannon Sharpe:That's too far. My kids were young. That was 2002. Yeah. So my kids have been 10 and 11 and they're going to be traveling from Atlanta and they have my mom. My mom would have had to fly down from Chicago, pick the kids up. My sister have to be. I say, nah, it's too much. It's too much. Yeah. My girl, my girl could, my girlfriend could, you know, fly down one stop, go pick them up. You know, nah, I had to think about the kids that it wasn't about me making. Yeah, I could have made a little bit more money, but... Ocho, forget being a pro, but I'm trying to make the top 25 base team. I mean, if you made the pro bowl, whoo.

46:45Shannon Sharpe:Look at this, man. What happened? What happened? What happened? I'm just looking at this money they jokingly making, Ocho. 1.1 on top of your contract? Who at the top? Nashawn Wright. He made 1.4. Okay. Ronnie Hickman made almost 1.3. Elijah Wilkinson almost 1.3.

47:08Yeah.

47:09Shannon Sharpe:A lot of seventh-round draft picks in that thing. And undrafted, yeah. There were, what, two – there were three undrafted free agents, three seventh-round draft picks, and most of the other guys in the top 15 were third - or fourth-round picks. Like I said, only Devin White was a first-round draft pick, and that was way back in 2019. So, obviously, he's not on that type of a contract currently. He probably played on a minimum contract or slightly above minimum. and plus incentives. If he led the team in tackles, if he top five, top, you know, led the league in tackles, tackle for loss or things of that nature.

47:43Shannon Sharpe:But congratulations, guys. Hey, now it's like, hey, Nashon Wright gonna get paid, though. He gonna get a big contract. Oh, yeah. He played his tail off. He nice. He nice. Hey, we, you know what? Now that we on, I want to interject real quick. Go ahead. on the topic of we're on the topic of football right yes I have a question the next topic is still football or we going on to something else no we're still talking football okay just in between real quick hey Chad I need you to do me a favor I need y 'all to clip what I'm getting ready to say my wide receiver workshop is coming up right Unk yes I had all the young bulls last year we're doing it in April because we don't want to interfere with obviously their vacation time and obviously World Cup is going to be here So ain't no telling where people going to be.

48:33And I need you receivers. I need you people in the chat. If you can clip this at some point and make sure I send it to them. I'm going to send them their own formal invite, but I need them at the wide receiver workshop. Jamar Chase and T Higgins. They were here last year. JSN was here last year. Tyreek Hill. Depending on where you at, I need you. Cortland Sutton, Jerry Judy, Jaden Reed, Tankdale, Elijah Moore, CeeDee Lamb. I don't bother you much. Come on home. Amon Ross St. Brown. Justin Jefferson. Malik Neighbors. I'm not sure how rehab is going. Please. Please. It'd be an honor to have you come down with the fellas, man.

49:12Chris Godwin. Chris Olave. Mike Evans. If you're on the West Coast, I will fly you back to the East Coast. Your presence is needed. Nico Collins. Please. Jalen Water. You right down the street. Ain't no excuses. A.J. Brown. Brian Thomas Jr. Devontae Smith. George Pickens let's finish that conversation in person please Puka Nakua Zay Flowers you already hear at home Mike Wilson, Keon Coleman, Luther Burden Roma Dunze, Xavier Leggett if there's anybody that I left off this list of receivers I would like at my wide receiver workshop this year you are welcome I can't say everybody's name but please I beg of you let's get together if you're a receiver that you want to get better go down to Ocho's workshop come on come on now please that's just a list of names off the top of my head that I wrote down and I look forward to seeing all y 'all boys the formal invite I'm going to send out to your agents I know y 'all got a lot of moving parts and moving pieces but I look forward to seeing all y 'all there

50:12Shannon Sharpe:something that salary caps should take state tax into account the sparks come from the trade that defensive tackle Osi Odigazua from the Cowboys in Texas where there's no state income tax and he was traded to the 49ers in California where they have the highest state income tax. So you go from zero to 13.3%. The real question is whether teams should get more to spend, given there's more what's paid to end up being taken off the state government. The numbers are significant. The salary cap in 2026 is$301 ,000 ,000.2. So the Rams, Chargers, and 49ers with a 13 % bump would push the cap the 341.2 so in other words so if you look at if you look at that if you were to bump it down so because the state taxes that's 13 so if you make 30 million dollars yeah uh uh your contract is 30 million dollars in the state of california i'm gonna say i'm taking 13.3 percent from before you even see it oh that's state so now when we kick that federal in there which is 36 6%.

51:22Shannon Sharpe:They splitting your money 50-50. You making$30 million, you making$15 million. That's nasty work, boy. That's nasty work. That West Coast, if you play in New York, I think New York is like that too, huh? Yeah, I think New York, New Jersey, they're around 10%. There's some states that's obviously a little higher than others. But if you want to play in Florida, you want to play in Texas, Ohio, Tennessee, where there's no state income tax. Nevada, there's no state Arizona, I think it's like 2%. But then, you know, most of the states are somewhere anywhere between, you know, five, just say five, like it's California, 13.3.

52:03Shannon Sharpe:And then California is trying to even bump it even higher. And for what? What am I getting for that? Crime is still bad. Homelessness. Oh, excuse me. You can't say homelessness. The unhoused problem is still extremely bad. Oh, we got to be correct Because people be calling in Trying to get us canceled The unhoused community Is getting out of control So we're going to be politically correct Because we know y 'all be clipping stuff And then y 'all try to spin it So this is what we're going to do We're going to speak in only political correct terms So we can avoid this foolishness So the unhoused or the physically limited Which means the disabled community that's what we're going to do moving forward okay okay

52:55Shannon Sharpe:no you cannot say homelessness you have to say unhoused hey i i never knew that huh well you know it now i do because trust me i got people in my air constantly constantly reminding shannon this is what you can say shannon this is what you can't say right okay so I mean, we don't touch those topics too often. I mean, but we just be talking like, okay, so we use the term unhoused. I talked to different demographics. I said, okay, what is acceptable? What isn't acceptable? Had a conversation with Brad Williams, who's a little person. Little person is correct, also dwarf. You can't say the M word.

53:42Shannon Sharpe:Right. He said, is that offensive? Dwarf, that is acceptable. huh is that offensive yes if you say the m word it is offensive to them that's crazy i mean i okay all right i'm gonna leave that alone so we just we just we try to be as uh acceptable as we possibly can because uh you know like i said ocho you'd be surprised that we'd be talking and i get off if People done clip some of the things that I've said or what you said and already got it posted. Yeah. Well, you know, I've always had an unfiltered mouth. I've been this way since 1978. So normally when I say something, it's like, oh, that's Ocho.

54:29OK, next. Yeah. It used to be like that, Ocho, but now. You're more polished in that area in some of the words you choose to use. I've just been a potty mouth all my life.

54:42Shannon Sharpe:well I think the thing is is that you have to understand like okay when you're in the even even when I'm in the barbershop I don't know if I'm being recorded so I always use politically correct terms damn they be recording the barbers you know what I thought about they got them glasses what's some glasses called the meta yeah man hey yeah I mean you got you got to watch out for the meta glasses huh yep yep you do so that's so you just chat just be careful yeah they they looking Ocho. Yo. Travis H.A.N. Jr. spoke to reporters on how to pronounce his last name. They were calling him ATN at Clemson, but it's Travis H.A.N.

55:23Shannon Sharpe:Jr. Take a listen to what he had to say. Okay. So growing up, it's Travis H.A.N. So it was like A-C-H-A-N-E. And that's how you always said Travis H.A.N. But when I went to college, I kept telling them my name like every day, every day, every day. And after like four weeks, they just couldn't get it. So I'm like, man, it's ETN. Like, how you say it is how you say it. So that's how that became. And it kind of took off because it was easy for the pronouncers to say it. I didn't have to just tell them. I didn't have to correct them every day to say my name. And just when I kind of just started learning more about my last name and how it came about and things like that, it just kind of stuck and made sense.

56:04But I'm very much open to being Travis A. Chan again. And just being myself, I don't have the correct people here on how to say my name each and every day. And I kind of love that. And that's just, just get back to me. Wait a minute. So it's not Travis A-T-N?

56:24Shannon Sharpe:Nope. It's A-C-N. Because remember, we had A-C-N from the Dolphins on. And we asked him, I said, what's the correct pronunciation? It's like Jackie Chan. Yes. It's A-C-N. A-C-N, yeah. So it's the same thing. Even though it's spelled A-T-N, it's pronounced H-N. Well, how did we come about that? What's the origin? What's the backstory on his name? Is it for it to be spelled the way it is, but pronounced completely different than the spelling? He's from New Orleans. You hear it kind of like the Creole. And when he got to Clemson, he told them what it was. But if you look at it in the way it's spelled, that doesn't look like it should say H-N.

57:08Shannon Sharpe:And it looks like it should say ATN. So they called him Travis ATN Jr. And it stuck. And he didn't correct him. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Robbie Gold. Robbie Gold used to be the kicker for the 49ers. They called him Robbie Gould when he was at Chicago. He said, you know, I know you guys have been calling me Robbie Gould for a while. But actually, my name is Robbie Gold. Right. But why he got the U in there then? Hey, bro, don't start me lying. Listen, that's pretty dope. That's pretty dope. i like it i i can't wait uh to i'm sure i'm gonna see travis yeah a chan at some point i would love to hear the backstory on the spelling and how you know his parents came about giving him that name yeah if you know like uh the guy from the uh the nuggets is pronounced spelled braun b-r-a-u-n but it's pronounced brown christian brown it's spelled it looks like it should be christian Braun, but it's pronounced Christian Brown.

58:09Shannon Sharpe:Sometimes spelling and pronunciation doesn't go hand in hand. No, not at all. I know very well because that's Spelo Cinco, man. That's rough for me.

58:25Shannon Sharpe:Hopefully, down there in New Orleans, he's from that area. Hopefully, everything will get corrected and he'll be Travis H. H. But that's what it is, Ocho. So he's correcting people. He says he doesn't think people have a problem pronouncing his name because he's from that area. They're very familiar with that. I'm surprised it took him, what, five years to get that corrected? Yeah. Normally, guys, you know, hey, they get that corrected as soon as possible. Here's the pronunciation.

59:05Shannon Sharpe:I guess they started, I guess they call him T.E. Because like DK is the Quillen. But he goes by DK because it's so hard to say. So just call me DK, man. The Quillen what? What's the K? The Quillen what? DK is for the Quillen Metcalf. Okay, hey, I'm calling him that from now on. The Quillen.

59:30Shannon Sharpe:Albert Breer wrote about the latest. he's hearing on the Max Crosby future with the Raiders. Breer reported some of the fractured trust between Crosby and the Raiders was rebuilt organically last week when the team showed the five-time Pro Bowler that it had his back and reaching out and offering him any help he needed after Ravens backed out. It won't hurt Clint Kubiak's effort to build a culture to have someone like Crosby. If Crosby buys in and there's no reason to think that he won't, he has the potential to be what he's always wanted to be for the Raiders, a flag bearer and an agent of change.

1:00:07Hey, Unk, it sounds good. I love the words, right? But after a situation like that and a team ships you off or lets you go and they bring you back, how are you building trust? Look, we don't – Ocho, some people say that he told them that he wanted out.

1:00:29Shannon Sharpe:Some people say he never said that they got an offer that they couldn't refuse to first round picks. They traded Michael Parsons for two first round picks. More times that there have been a lot of players traded for two first round picks. So it should be a badge of honor that somebody thought enough of you that they were offering two first rounders. Yes. For your services. OK, things didn't work out. So guess what? They brought him back. Yeah. We're happy to have you back.

1:01:03Shannon Sharpe:Ocho behind the – like I said, I don't know. I mean, you hear a lot of things. He wanted to go. He didn't want to go, blah, blah, blah. We don't really – I don't really know the extent. But I know this is that they got him back. Yeah. And if they tried to trade him again, he's not getting a first. Once somebody fails you on a physical, Ocho, it's hard to overcome that. Yeah, that sucks too. The physical part, I mean, that sucks. I hope he has a speedy recovery, gets back healthy, and can do what he's always done, be dominant at his craft. I'm hoping Kubiak and the rest of the organization has a hell of a plan, not only with offseason free agency, but the draft as well, to continue to build what they need necessary to be able to compete in that division because the Broncos have gotten better, the Chiefs have gotten better, and at some point the Raiders are going to have to catch up.

1:01:57yeah and

1:02:01Shannon Sharpe:I mean it's look nobody I mean being traded it's always nice you know I was potentially traded a couple of times it didn't happen almost got traded to Green Bay during the 99 season ended up breaking my collarbone you I did you mean you could have been with Brett Favre yeah had I not broke my collarbone I would have been with Brett Favre almost got traded in the 95 offseason to Arizona for Eric Swan. The Broncos were going to give their first round pick, which was number 15, ended up being John Mobley, myself, and Mike Pritchard for Eric Swan. That didn't go through. Right. So, and it's tough.

1:02:45Shannon Sharpe:It's like, damn, y 'all really think y 'all be better off without me?

1:02:53Shannon Sharpe:Just went to the Pro Bowl, Locho. That was my fourth consecutive Pro Bowl. I was two-time All-Pro in that span. I was like, yeah, you good, but we'd be better without you. Damn. That's what I said, see? That's exactly what I said. It's hard. Listen, I'm glad Max is happy, obviously, in the media, in the public. They always gonna say all the right things. For sure. but you already know how dirty this business is. Yeah, for sure. You guys have seen how this business operates many, many times. Obviously, players, they do what they can to save face by saying all the right things on camera, but behind closed doors, they know how the game goes, and it sucks.

1:03:45So I'm just hoping they do right by Max, and he does his due diligence on getting healthy and getting back to doing what he does best.

1:03:53Shannon Sharpe:That's the number one thing, Ocho, is to get healthy. Yeah. Because we know he's healthy. He hell. Hey, he's the fourth to deal with. He's a top five edge rusher. I ain't taking nobody over Miles Garrett because I think Miles Garrett is the best defensive player in football. And I can make a case he's a top five player in all of football, regardless of position. Obviously, the quarterbacks hold a lot more value than any other position. but when you look at what Miles Garrett can do in the run, tackle for losses, pressures, he's second to none but like you said Ocho, it's tough because it's almost like Ocho, we filed for divorce and then, well come on back baby.

1:04:37Yeah, hey I can't find nothing else out there. Hey, hey come to find out

1:04:45Shannon Sharpe:you wasn't what he thought he was or she wasn't what you thought she would so come on back and accept him mm-hmm hey after it you can't trust after that man

1:05:00so no no no no no no but it oh joe look at all the grapes they traded joe montana yeah oh yeah

1:05:08Shannon Sharpe:oh yeah jerry they cut emmett come on what are we doing here these these these these new young players think that being released or being traded is beneath. You better go back and check some of the historically great players that have been cut and traded. Mm-hmm. It happens.

1:05:34Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all need to stop. Max Crosby also said on his broadcast that he acted off the field the way he does on the field. He would be in prison. Crosby said, the second I put on my cleats and I'm across the line, I'm a different environment. And I'm thinking about murdering everything in front of me. The second I'm off, I can turn it off just like that. And just because you have to, I can't be like I am on the field all the time. Or I'd be in prison. He's a perfect guy. He's a perfect guy for the Raiders. Yeah, I mean, listen, I said... That red hair, I mean, he's Al. He would be like the old Ocho, the 70s Raiders, when they have a Tuzak and Otis Sifstrunk and all those guys.

1:06:17Shannon Sharpe:Ben Davison, Jack Tatum, and all those guys. He's lit. He's perfect. I said it before. I mean, I didn't think he wanted to be there. But if he is, I mean, they lose a huge piece of what their identity is. Matt Crosby is the identity. He represents everything that the Raiders are and always have been. Yep. So, I mean, it was kind of weird to see him go. But I was also happy he went. I wasn't happy he went to the goddamn Ravens. But, you know, but, I mean, hey, listen, it is what it is. So. If Tom Brady can change teams, if Aaron Rodgers can change teams. Yeah. If you think about the greatest players, the greatest players can change teams.

1:07:06Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. What chance do you got these guys got now? Brady didn't finish his career. Peyton Manning got released. Yeah, y 'all realize Peyton Manning got cut, right? Five MVPs? Yeah. Adrian Peterson, Emmitt Smith. It happens. It's tough, though, Ocho. It really is because it's a blow to your ego. Bro, all the all-pro teams I done made, all these Pro Bowls DPO wise and MVPs and you saying that you better without me hey you know what the problem is too with those MVPs with those defensive player of the years with those Pro Bowls and maybe add your Super Bowls to it as well but when I want to get that money off the books when I want to get that money off the books and when I want to go somewhere get something cheaper now I might not get the production you bring me but I can get half the production and try to make up for it in other areas when they get fed up they fed up it's really that simple you see they're eating 100 million of Tua they're paying Tua damn near 60 million I said nah you go and play for somebody else it happens the greatest from Randy to T.O.

1:08:28Shannon Sharpe:to Jerry your top receivers somebody's like nah we good it happens and so I can understand, but you're happy that, you know what? They wanted me back, so I'm good. I'm good. I can get – Ocho, you know what? I can get over that. I can get over that. Yeah. It does. Because you think about what you – think about what you gave to Cincinnati. If Cincinnati – because you were like, okay, it's time for a change of scenery. But look at all what you had done to Cincinnati. Yes. From the All-Pros to the Pro Bowl. and they say, yeah, Ocho, yeah, we could. Yeah. I kind of knew it was coming too, though, and I understood it.

1:09:09The funny thing about it too, Honky, you know what? I was very wise, actually, while I was still playing the game. I understood the business side of it. I understood the politics that came with it, which is why I played the game with such joy, like a little kid that I did, because I understood the business side and I wanted nothing to do with that. Now, honestly, when obviously the trade happened, I knew it was going to happen because they were drafting a new quarterback. They were drafting a new receiver. And that new regime was going to start. And they wanted to start fresh. They wanted to start fresh.

1:09:40Yeah, everybody else was, I hate using the word old, but we were up in age. We were up in age. So I understood it. If I could have, I would have loved to have let Marvin know. I'd say, hey, Marv, listen, I'll take a pay cut. I'll take a pay cut. Just put me in the slot. Put me in the slot. I'll let A.J. Green do what he do on the outside. and let me let me just if I could be a one jersey team if I could do it again I would stay I would

1:10:05Shannon Sharpe:I would definitely stay yeah I didn't even have a choice I didn't even have a choice I ain't get no phone call no nothing uh I think Drew Rosenhouse hit me say uh yeah they shipping your black ass off yeah uh Ocho uh uh I wouldn't take no pay cut no oh hell nah and let me let me see I'm Coach, you got to understand, I had taken less. Now, I wasn't getting big signing bonuses. Right. So, that was really – my money was against the cap, so I was the highest paid. Right. I'm like, I don't know. So, seven consecutive Pro Bowls in an eight-year span with five all pros, and you want me to take a pay cut because I got injured?

1:10:46Oh, okay, okay, okay. Oh, hell no. I think for me, the fact that – I would have taken a$300 ,000 pay cut. Right.

1:10:54Shannon Sharpe:That's all I can give you. Yeah. I would have took a pay cut simply because when football season was over, I had so many moving parts in the offseason. So I was still, it was like I was damn near working year round. So I wouldn't have tripped. Whatever I take a pay cut in, whatever I take, whatever pay is cut in season, I would make up an offseason anyway. So I really wasn't tripping. But obviously it didn't work out that way. But no, it, it, it, but look, it for the best. Um, I'm glad I went to Baltimore. I got a chance to win another Superbowl. I won it without the umbrella of Denver and people couldn't question.

1:11:32Shannon Sharpe:Well, you wasn't going to be that good. If you hadn't played in Denver with Elway and Shanahan, blah, blah, blah. I get all of that. But look, I don't care who my teammates were. I was very successful that I was a part of three Superbowl winning teams. And I like to think I was an integral part on all of those. So people are going to try to take shots at you, Ocho. Well, you did this, you did that. Look who you played with. Okay. What y 'all want me to do? Say I wish I had to play with Elway? Wish Mike wasn't my head coach? I don't think Brady – I don't know how Brady feels about Coach Belichick, but he'll never say he wished he wasn't his head coach.

1:12:16Right.

1:12:17Shannon Sharpe:Not after what they accomplished. And, you know, sometimes you don't get along. Everybody don't get along. This notion that you think that everybody should get along, that ain't happening. Just like you don't get along. Go ahead, Ocho. Everybody don't get along in the job. Yeah, we saw that. We saw the Lakers. Hey, Chuck, are we contenders yet? All I know, we the third seed. Third seed. just took down the Rockets 100, the 92.

1:12:52Shannon Sharpe:I saw that. Luka had 36, 6, and 4. LeBron had 18, 5, and 5. Austin Reed's had 15, 3, and 5. Marcus Smart chipped in with 11. D8 gave us 11 rebounds with 7 points. we got 13 points off the bench we can roll with that we can roll with that easy 33 minutes from tomorrow a little light lifted had the highest plus minus of anybody on the court tonight but Lakers are playing well they're playing some good basketball they're playing some good basketball Luka is Luka he gets off to that hard start I mean now you kind of at his mercy what Luca had tonight 36-6-4 36-6-4 and there are two players right now in the league averaging 25-5 Joker Joker guess who the other one is either Shea or Shea or Luca LeBron

1:14:17Shannon Sharpe:I think there's two players

1:14:22Shannon Sharpe:She ain't gonna win the MVP Not even close huh No Even with the time that he missed he's still gonna win it huh Yep he ain't missed over the A lot of games Right

1:14:40so

1:14:41Shannon Sharpe:and Joker can only miss one more game so if he missed one more game he cool but if he misses two more games he's out of the running it's a wrap Giannis is out of the running so for me it's Shay it's Yoke it's Cade it's JB and it's Luka and Wimby and Wimby in Wimby. In Wimby. But Lakers got a big win tonight. They needed this. They started their road trip. They got the same team again Wednesday. Aw, man, if I'm a head coach, I'm flying y 'all ass back to L.A. You think I'm going to leave y 'all down here Monday night, Tuesday night in Houston? Oh, no, y 'all gots to go. Coach, can you imagine if you had the Super Bowl in Houston now?

1:15:37Shannon Sharpe:I don't even want to think about it. I'm going to do my part of a nightcap remote. I ain't showing up. You're going to be in Houston by yourself. I'm going to be doing my video conference. If you don't show up, I ain't showing up. I say I'm not. Ocho, to be down there for a whole, Ocho, Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night, getting up out of there, Ocho, for real? No, no, sir. No, sir. Pro drivers live for race day, but for small business owners, every day is race day. That's why going pro with Lenovo Pro matters. One-on-one advice, IT solutions, and customized hardware powered by Intel Core Ultra Processors keep your business on the right track.

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