Nightcap Hour 1: Chris Paul PACKED UP and SENT HOME by Clippers + Giannis gets BLASTED for UNFOLLOWING Bucks instead of asking for TRADE

21:55Chad Johnson:and get out my face, I ain't telling what somebody told me.

21:59Shannon Sharpe:I'm telling what I know. Absolutely.

22:01Chad Johnson:Absolutely. Hey, at the same time, you know, I know CP, he understands like, okay, I got a great relationship with James Harden. I got a good relationship with Kawhi Leonard. He ain't, if it's really something that wrong or, you know, something that's really messing with him, I'm sure he'll go to them and be like, hey, look, man, we got to go talk to Coach. We got to go talk to T. Lou. He'll go to James Harden. He'll go to Kawhi. We need to go talk to T. Lou about this situation, man. Hey, we got to be better here. We got to be better there. I just can't see him going over James Harden and Kawhi and then just going straight to the source, being like, hey, man, we got an X, Y, Z.

22:38Chad Johnson:You know what I mean? I think he has – I know he has more sense than that, and obviously his value and his say-so into this through those dudes, obviously it would be heard a lot better as though it was just coming from him. So I'm not sure what really got him to this point, but like I said, man, I watched him play a few times, and it hasn't been pretty.

23:01Shannon Sharpe:The man getting DMPs, healthy scratches. It's only a matter of time. That is a prideful man. That man has played 20, what, 20, 21 NBA season, Joe. Like I said, he's a top 75 player all time. Let that sink in for just a second, Chad. He's getting healthy DMPs. DMP, healthy scratch. DMP, healthy scratch. Not an injury, not coach's decision, healthy scratch. So now it's telling you. Like I said, I don't know. Maybe, you know, hey, y 'all need to do this, y 'all need to do that. Man, it's kind of hard to tell somebody something when you're not doing it or you can't help us do it. Yeah, yeah. But this situation is bigger than Chris Paul because the Clippers right now, Chad, and y 'all know this, and everybody that's listening to us know this, the Clippers are farther away from winning a championship right now than when they were before they got Kawhi.

23:54Shannon Sharpe:Kawhi injuries have harmed this team, giving up all those draft picks. Do you know, Ocho, that the OKC Thunder still get the Clippers number one draft pick in 26? Mm-hmm. Think about that. All those picks they got, they built this roster. They built a team that's set for the next decade thanks to the Clippers.

24:14Joe Johnson:thanks to the Clippers yeah they miss they miss big time huh this is more than a miss I'm not sure I can think of another word you know to to definitively scribe what the Clippers did when they let Shea go and I I asked um I mean Joe I asked this earlier most of the time if you if you can see you know scouts and GMs there's a there's a visual where you can tell a player special because certain players look better than other players even if they're young and they just come into your team, you can already see the promise and the potential in them. So I ask well how the hell they even let Shea get out the goddamn building anyway when he's as special as he is?

24:52Joe Johnson:You're not going to tell me, oh he's with the Clippers and he's like ah, you know what, I think we can do without this individual and then all of a sudden he goes to Oklahoma and looks like he does now. One of the best in the league.

25:06Chad Johnson:Oh Joe.

25:07Joe Johnson:Maybe one, depending on who you goddamn ask based on preference on the position in play you actually like. So what the hell was the Clippers looking at?

25:16Chad Johnson:They didn't see this, bro. Nobody saw this. They knew he was going to be special. They knew Shea was going to be special, but Ocho, I promise you, they didn't see this, bro. I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't see this. I thought he was a hell of a player, but the mega stardom that he's jumped himself into, the consistency that he plays with and being reliable night in and night out with 30-plus points a night, obviously don't want a championship, looking like they going to repeat. Man, they ain't doing this.

25:49Joe Johnson:Man, them boys 21-1, man.

25:52Shannon Sharpe:Yes. 21-1? He couldn't be this. You know why he couldn't be this? Because he wasn't going to be number one with Kawhi. You see, he's the unquestioned leader in OKC. Yeah. So now, if you bring Kawhi in, Kawhi got to get the ball.

26:08Chad Johnson:Yeah. Kawhi – no.

26:11Shannon Sharpe:And Kawhi made it be – let it be known, if you don't make this deal to get Paul George, I'm going to sign with the Lakers. Right. And Anthony Davis and LeBron James. And if you're the Clippers, you cannot allow that to happen because they already had LeBron. Now they got another superstar and Anthony Davis to pair with him. And you want them to get a third one?

26:29Chad Johnson:hey and not only that uncle ocho kawaii and paul george are two la kids they play california so yeah i'm sure they want to do anything they could to to make that possible because i'm sure they thought they was gonna win a title now i think with shay with him being traded it put a little more off in him to be a better player to be a better leader you know what i mean like okay they traded me all right bet i'm gonna show him so i think a lot of that is kind of oozing him as well and from getting traded bro you learn a lot about a lot of people and not only that yourself i think that helped catapult him into a start but he's like all right every year i'm gonna continue to get better and better and better next thing you know now he's the mvp now we don't want the championship now he's working on our second one you just you don't you never know how things play out if he stay in la you know if he's complacent if you know what i mean it's just so many different variables that come in that come into play it's like bro ain't no way y 'all could have seen this

27:29Shannon Sharpe:man was no he couldn't he wouldn't have been what he is because he wouldn't have had the ball like he does he has the ball so you mean to tell me you're gonna bring kawaii and give him all of that make all those concessions and you think you're gonna turn that ball over to somebody else it's

27:45Chad Johnson:not gonna happen no it's not no and so now he was able to play free ocho look at everybody knows

27:53Shannon Sharpe:Who's the number one guy on OKC? Shea. OK. J-Dub. OK. Chet. Everybody else falls in the line. Right. But there's only one. You got to have a pecking order. You know, that was kind of what happened in OKC, wasn't it, Joe? Yeah. When Kevin Durant and Russ, you see? And James Harden. You see what happened? Yeah. Now, you have no issue. Ojo said, no. I was like, look here. It's like your girl said, look, you know there's a possibility. She said but if you don't do what I ask I'm a movie me and I'm moving in with him and we right next door to you Right That's what the clip was under the gun. Oh, so what choice did they have?

28:33Shannon Sharpe:You got LeBron James You got the biggest name in the NBA with the biggest franchise in the NBA and they just got Anthony Davis. Yeah Yeah, so now you have no choice to give him everything that he's asking for I won't this I won't that I won't this okay, okay And if you don't, he told them flat out, it's been reported, that he told them flat out, if you don't get Paul George, I'm going to sign with the Lakers.

28:58Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. Right. That's crazy. That's crazy.

29:02Shannon Sharpe:So now he got hurt. They got to get into the championship game. He get hurt. You remember that game, Ocho? No, I mean, Joe? They beat Utah.

29:13Chad Johnson:Yeah.

29:14Shannon Sharpe:If they got, if they got, and then Kawhi is hurt.

29:18Chad Johnson:Yeah.

29:19Shannon Sharpe:they have remember that first game against Phoenix Kawhi goes haywire he get hurt in that series

29:27Chad Johnson:that's the only reason why they lost that series I think if he wouldn't have got hurt in that Phoenix series because Phoenix went on to the finals that year yes

29:33Shannon Sharpe:they ended up losing to Milwaukee but they had a 2-0 lead and then lost 4 straight but I just think the thing is for me looking at it from the outside looking from outside in I'm not inside looking out being a player and an older player

29:53Shannon Sharpe:uh-uh i'll give you a prime example what's going on in pittsburgh gocho and rogers quarterback say guys ain't coming to meeting that he called yeah i'm just saying he's saying you know we ask guys to come by let's be critical of ourselves right

30:12Joe Johnson:that's crazy I mean just just thinking about it what Chris Paul has accomplished being a 70 being a part of that 75 how you say it 75

30:25Shannon Sharpe:75th anniversary team 75th anniversary team

30:29Joe Johnson:one of the 75 greatest players of all time a definite hall of famer still doesn't have the weight despite not being as valuable as he once was, where his word means nothing at this point. And that's crazy.

30:48Shannon Sharpe:I'll give you another example. Look at Tom Brady. Tom Brady was the oldest player in the locker room, but what was he doing, Ocho? Producing at a extremely high level. You see, Chris Paul wasn't producing at that level to have that kind of bull, that megaphone voice. Yeah. You see? I'm just telling you how it goes. Yeah. And people say, well, what? They didn't know, but I was still producing at a high level. I was still right there. I was one or two on the team lead in yards and catches. So I was still producing at a high level. Chris Paula, 12-time All-Star, six-time Steel champ, all-rookie defensive, nine-time All-Defensive, 75th anniversary team, five-time assist champ, 11-time All-B-N, NBA, 2005-06 Rookie of the Year, 2012-13 All-Star Game MVP.

31:33so the resume

31:37Shannon Sharpe:but you gotta update that resume Ocho yeah when was the last time we saw him in the All-Star game Joe it's been a while

31:46Chad Johnson:he's like second or third in the history of the game in assists right

31:51Shannon Sharpe:I think he's third I think he's third behind Stockton and Kidd

31:57Chad Johnson:okay

31:59Joe Johnson:that's crazy it's funny it's funny this happens all the time just not in sports in life in general okay he passed he passed jay kid yeah he's second now yeah yeah that's crazy that's a hell of a feat there boy yes yes

32:20Shannon Sharpe:oh that's crazy boy so hold on hold on joe a different joe you know look you was what you had accomplished at Atlanta. That's Atlanta. When you go into a different situation, you move very, very differently. Every different situation you went into until you found out the landscape of the land. You just can't be that same person.

32:43Joe Johnson:Yeah, you're right. Unless you're that guy.

32:47Shannon Sharpe:LeBron James go to Miami. He tried to take a backseat. D-Way said, bro, in order for us to do what we need to do, you got to be you. You got to be him. He goes back to Cleveland. It's a no-brainer. He takes over. Maybe that rubs some of the guys the wrong way. He goes to L.A. Well, he's the best player on the team. The best player on the team coming in, it's understood. What's understood doesn't need to be explained. But when you what? Not the first, not the second, not the third, not the fourth, not the fifth best. And another mistake they made. They keep making mistake after mistake, and they keep compounding it.

33:21Shannon Sharpe:You gave up a Norman Powell, who really should have been an all-star last year, for Bradley Beal. Bradley Beal done for the rest of the year. That boy averaging by. Oh, what? Hey, wait a minute. The season just started.

33:32Chad Johnson:It ended for him. It's over. It's over. He hurt him. I think he hurt his knee or something, but he done.

33:38Shannon Sharpe:I think it's his hip. Yeah.

33:39Chad Johnson:Hey, Norman Powell, that averaging by 24, 25 a game in my. Absolutely. That boy going to be a hard time this year.

33:46Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Yeah. You see, when you make a mistake, Ocho, and you compound it. Yes. You brought. I'm trying to figure. I just. Joe, help me understand this, Joe. They saw him in that situation in Phoenix. Book and KD. He couldn't be third fiddle. You know what? He'll be a better third fiddle here behind Kawhi and James Harden.

34:13Chad Johnson:I think what the Clippers were thinking, okay, Ocho, okay, we bring Bradley Beal over. He still got some youth in him. He's a little younger than Harden and Kawhi. Kawhi going to miss a lot of games. We know that. We going to need a guy who can step in and maybe get a score.

34:29Joe Johnson:I say a guy that can step in and score.

34:32Chad Johnson:Yeah, we don't need a guy who step in to give us 18 to 25 a night. I think that's what the Clippers were banking on. And obviously due to injuries, man, he just ain't been able to, Bradley Beal was never able to deliver that for the Clippers. So it put him in a tough bind. Harden has been playing great all year, but it's been hard because outside of Zubac, when Kawhi does play, he does give them great minutes, but they don't have no chemistry. You can kind of see it when they play. You know what I mean? And it just hasn't worked this year for them, man. Damn. It hasn't.

35:07Shannon Sharpe:It hasn't. But, Joe, I'm trying to figure out, how do they expect somebody to get healthier as they get older? Look at Bradley Beal's history the last couple of years. He's been hurt.

35:17Chad Johnson:I know, Unc. They was optimistic. They tried to give him a try. It's like, hey, listen, okay. We understand that he ain't performed well in Phoenix, but we're going to give him another chance. Look, this chance we're giving him, it ain't going to really cost us nothing. On top of that, we try to bring in CP. Because if not, then you got to pay Norman Powell max dollars to stay. Close to max dollars to stay. So I think they were trying to avoid that too. So, yeah, they were trying to cut corners.

35:47Shannon Sharpe:And Powell has gotten better and better. And now you see him. When Tyler Hero was out, he was cooking. Cooking ain't the word. I mean, hey, he can take you off the dribble. He can spot up. He can shoot the three off the jump. I mean, and now they got Tyler Hero back. It's just been one thing after another for the Clippers. And unfortunately, I think that window has slammed shut with Kawhi because Kawhi is never going to give you enough games, Joe, to amount to anything. And then when you least – he can't play back-to-backs. And in the playoffs, you're playing every other day. Yeah. Especially after you get past game three.

36:29Shannon Sharpe:It's time to blow it up, get some draft capital. I don't know. You got – how many more years because – how many more years they got on Kawhi because they just gave Kawhi a new deal?

36:46Shannon Sharpe:Man. You gave Kawhi a new deal. You walked away from Paul George, which looks like a good thing now because they wanted to do a three-year deal. Paul wanted that extra fourth year. Philly's going to be kicking their own self in the ass, but Philly's going to be kicking themselves in the ass with Joel Embiid also because he got damn near 200 million in the next three years coming. But – go ahead. Philly ain't got a – they got a – I blow it up. I'm building around Max and Edgecombe.

37:14Chad Johnson:They got a decent problem because they got some young boys on their team in Philly who can go get it. Yes. When Embiid and Paul George ain't playing, they got some boys out there who will go get it. Maxie, extra. Yep. I enjoy watching them. Edge Cone. What's the guy that come off? Tyrese Maxey. Come off the bench. Maxey. Yo, you're Quinn Grimes.

37:33Shannon Sharpe:Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

37:35Chad Johnson:So they got some promises. They got some promise over there. The Clippers going to have to do something, man. I don't know what they got to do. They got to do something.

37:42Joe Johnson:Hey, what's the issue? I know Joel Embiid is his knee. His knee is bothering him. Yeah. With Paul George. Paul George knee too?

37:50Chad Johnson:Yep. Yeah, I think he had a procedure. and I think he had a procedure right before the season started too, Ocho, which kind of set him out some more.

37:57Shannon Sharpe:Okay. And the thing is, you got two more years. I think he signed a four-year$212 million.

38:04Joe Johnson:Yeah.

38:05Shannon Sharpe:So you see what you're looking at, right, Ocho? Yeah. You're looking at about$50 million a year.

38:10Chad Johnson:Yeah.

38:11Shannon Sharpe:Joel Embiid got three years, almost$200 million. He's out, can't play back-to-back. They're already saying Joel Embiid is not playing back-to-back. Guess what? He's getting older. he's getting heavier. Like I said, I've never seen somebody get healthier as they got older.

38:26Joe Johnson:Yeah. And Kawhi, Kawhi needs bad too, huh? Worse than mine.

38:33Chad Johnson:Hey, look, look. The only difference is

38:35Shannon Sharpe:I'm 57. He's not even 37.

38:39Chad Johnson:A wise man once told me, the older you get, man, the lighter you gotta be to play this game. This is a young man's game. This was Pat Riley when I played in Miami Ocho for a couple months. Me and him sat down. He was like, Joe, the older you get, the lighter you have to be to play this game, man. It's a young man's game.

38:56Shannon Sharpe:Right. Ocho, remember I told you, as I started to get older in the league, I got lighter and lighter. Yeah. Lighter and lighter. All of a sudden, it was 232. Then it was 231. Then it was 229. Then it was 28. Then it was 26.

39:09Chad Johnson:You see?

39:09Joe Johnson:Yes, sir.

39:10Chad Johnson:Hey, Ocho, I always tell people, man, the older that we get, the harder it is to play the games that we love because we have to work a lot harder than somebody who's younger. You know what I mean? Yes. Like, as we age and you get in your 40s, your 50s, just to gear up for a basketball game, hey, man, you can't be out there playing. You got to stretch, warm up. You got to make sure that body right before you put on that freeway. So I get it. You got to – Joe, you got to – two things need to happen,

39:40Shannon Sharpe:one or the other, and sometimes both. You got to work out harder and eat less. Sometimes you got to do both of them. You gotta work out harder and eat less. You gotta do both. Can I do one or the other? Do I gotta do both? Or B-O-F-F, both. Right now.

39:55Chad Johnson:Now listen, ain't no way around it. You gots to do both. You have to eat less and work out harder. That's the way it goes. Your training has, I tell my son this all the time, I know he a lot younger, but I tell him, I say, man, your training has to be far harder than the game itself. You know what I mean? So when you do play, you can make it look easy. You know what I mean? If you're training hard and going hard, sweating, you got your heart rate, like that's what you want because when you touch the floor, the court or the field, man, you want it to look easy, bro.

40:28Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Joe, y 'all did it bad tonight. You know, they're in Atlanta. Hawks fan erupted. Where's Chris Paul? Oh, man. Where's Chris Paul?

40:38Chad Johnson:Oh, he from right up the street, North Carolina. I bet you there's a lot of people that they see him play tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. I think they did a number on us tonight too, didn't they? Huh? I think they did a number on the Hawks tonight. The Clippers did. I don't know. I know. Yeah, man, they got us 115-92. Damn.

40:57Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Man, Jalen Johnson been playing out his damn mind, though.

41:00Chad Johnson:He didn't play tonight. That was the problem.

41:03Shannon Sharpe:Oh, okay. Now it makes sense then.

41:05Chad Johnson:Yeah, that boy, man, he been balling. He can be an all-star and shit too.

41:08Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he played like an all-star.

41:10Chad Johnson:Oh, man.

41:11Shannon Sharpe:them young guys are really doing the number man they are

41:16Chad Johnson:they got some guys out there that's playing hard but I don't want people to lose sight of Trey not being out there man he's definitely going to be needed because to me Uncle Ocho he's the it factor he's the guy who can win you a series who can get you to the next round like yeah it looks great now throughout the regular season we winning games but man look when he get nut cutting time We need a guy who done been there and know what it takes.

41:43Joe Johnson:Right.

41:45Shannon Sharpe:Jamal Murray had a monster game, Joe. He had 52 points. He was 19 of 25 from the floor, 10 of 11 from the three.

41:52Joe Johnson:Hold on, 19 for 25? Yeah, man, 52. Boy, he was efficient tonight.

41:58Chad Johnson:Hey, Uncle Ocho, when Jamal Murray playing like that, it's going to be hard. Oh, they hard. You can't beat him. You can't beat him. because, look, Yoke is still at 24 points, 8 rebounds, 13 assists. So he's still going to give you his triple-double. Now, if you get somebody to chip in that's going to give you 40, 50,

42:17Shannon Sharpe:think about it, Aaron Gordon's out. Aaron Gordon, go look back and look at Aaron Gordon since he got there and they won the championship. He's been better shooting the ball from outside, playing outstanding defense. He's that third option. And had he not gotten, it would have been very interesting to see, Joe, what would have happened, what could have happened had he not gotten injured that game seven against OKC. Yeah, you're right. Copenhagen's Spit Free packs American-grown tobacco into pouches made from when your elbow's deep in an engine block. They're masked up, torching deep cuts into stubborn pipes.

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46:10Shannon Sharpe:Next topic, Giannis Antetokounmpo is unhappy with the Bucs organization. He deleted all mentions of Bucs from his social media pages on Tuesday. And Brian Renhorst revealed Giannis had asked to be traded to the New York Knicks during the offseason. Giannis' agent, Alex Saratis, it sounds Greek, that name sounds Greek, reportedly have begun discussion with Milwaukee regarding his future. A resolution is expected within the next few weeks. Joe, let me start this. Joe, I ain't got no problem. Guys wanting to leave. But what I got a problem with guys doing is taking shots at guys when they leave. You know, I remember when Giannis said, I don't want to go somewhere else and team up with somebody else.

46:55Shannon Sharpe:I want them to come to Milwaukee. Because, see, everybody was taking shots at LeBron when he went to Miami. Everybody. I ain't calling no name. But everybody has something to say. And I be damned. It'll be on. If everybody that has something to say be careful, you'll become the very thing you despise, my grandpa used to always say this Joe. Be careful boy, you'll become the very thing you despise most of the person. Yeah, yeah.

47:22Chad Johnson:Cause, hey. Cause you know he won't.

47:25Shannon Sharpe:You hate a liar, you'll become one. You hate a thief, you'll become one. You hate a cheat, you'll become one. Be careful boy, you'll become the very thing you despise the most of the person. Now look at him now. But he frustrated.

47:39Joe Johnson:He frustrated.

47:40Shannon Sharpe:What do you think LeBron was? But everybody has something to say. Right, right, right. Joe, Ocho, I ain't got no problem with guys wanting to go. None whatsoever. Right. But guess what LeBron did? Guess what KD did? Now, they traded KD. I don't know if KD wanted to go. LeBron played every last contract out. He was done with Cleveland. His contract had ended. He went to Miami. He gave Miami four years. He went back to Cleveland for four years. He's been in L.A. now seven, eight years. Played out every last contract. But everybody took their shots. I don't want to team up with somebody else. I want to be right here.

48:20Shannon Sharpe:Okay.

48:21Joe Johnson:Yeah.

48:22Shannon Sharpe:Wait, listen. Now he want to go to the Bucs. Now he want to go to Knicks. What's the Knicks got? Jalen Brunson, Carl Anthony Towns, Mikael Bridges, OG Ananobi, Mitchell Robinson. Now, obviously, you're going to have to get some of those guys up.

48:34Joe Johnson:But I bet him, you're honest. Hey, the funny thing about it is, it's easy to say all the right things when you're winning. It's easy to say all the right things when you're happy. That's the easy part, Joe.

48:44Chad Johnson:Yeah.

48:45Joe Johnson:Huh? Yeah. I mean, it's easy to smile and look at other people that you see bouncing around and doing things that, God damn it, doing things that you wouldn't do. Come on, Elgato. Doing things that you wouldn't do because, I'm going to just go to my laptop camera, man. I'm sick of turning this thing off and on.

49:01Shannon Sharpe:I know KD was not traded to the Warriors. KD was traded to Phoenix and was traded to the Rockets so he was traded twice chat yeah

49:13Joe Johnson:go ahead Ocho I was finished I'm just saying when things are convenient when the opportunity you're in at that moment you're happy well guys yeah you're going to say everything under the sun when you see someone else doing something that you probably wouldn't do But the minute things go sour for you And inside your house Starting to stink What's the first thing you want to do Oh man I got to get up out of here And you forget about everything you said About somebody else that was doing the exact same thing You ready to do You ready to get out of this thing at the house Because it smells

49:48Shannon Sharpe:Send that to Joe

49:49Chad Johnson:What's that

49:51Shannon Sharpe:Ask him to send you this thing Where Giannis Injured his cat Did you see when Giannis injured his cat

49:59Joe Johnson:He just went down. Yeah, he just went down. Ain't nothing wrong with him. Ain't nothing wrong with him. He ain't playing.

50:04Chad Johnson:I'm told, they won, but he didn't play but like three, four minutes. But I want you to see this, Joe. Tell me what you thinking. Okay.

50:11Joe Johnson:It was a non-contact, a non-contact. I don't know. What you trying to say, huh? No, he just went down. He went down. I just want you to look at it, Joe. That's all I'm saying. I want you to look at it. Ain't nothing wrong with him.

50:26Chad Johnson:hey listen but what happens what happens when that girl on instagram start taking them pictures down and her and her boyfriend it's all it's over it's a wrap it's over it's a wrap

50:40Shannon Sharpe:uh ask that she sent it to you on ig okay it's over you know and that and that's the thing that's why you hey look y 'all need to be first of all you need to be really really locked in to start posting. Y 'all date somebody, y 'all go out on one date and y 'all already got him up. My heart, my rib, my backbone. God gave me everything I asked for. And a week later, I guess God took it back.

51:04Chad Johnson:Damn, why it ain't showing up? I can't. What's this on X?

51:10Shannon Sharpe:You see it on Twitter? Yes, you sent you a Twitter link on Instagram. Damn, it ain't

51:18Chad Johnson:showing up.

51:20Joe Johnson:Joe don't know how to work technology huh? Oh he works to me Ocho

51:25Chad Johnson:Hey look I am about as bad as long though for real

51:33Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to figure out I'm trying to figure out whether these guys be coming up with these injuries now. Everybody getting calf strains Ocho in the NFL the NBA MLB I'm like damn

51:46Joe Johnson:Y 'all made a paper mache Listen, I ain't even finna say nothing, man. I ain't even finna say every time I say something, everybody laugh and tell me be quiet. Okay.

51:56Chad Johnson:Hold on, hold on. Hey, hey, hey, hold on. Cause that's a non-contact injury and he's just like, didn't nobody touch him, he just went.

52:09Joe Johnson:You know what it is.

52:11Shannon Sharpe:He frustrated, Joe. I know what it is. Hey man. First of all, when you start hearing rumblings, When you start hearing rumors about somebody in a relationship, Ocho, it's just a matter of time. Because somebody done said something to somebody, and somebody done put that information out.

52:25Chad Johnson:Yes, sir. Hey, hey, this might be a little more serious than what we think, though. Okay, Ocho.

52:30Joe Johnson:What, that injury? That ain't no injury? Or you talking about it on the inside?

52:35Shannon Sharpe:No, I'm saying like he's – Ocho, but here's the thing, Joe. Let me ask you this. You go down like that, and the training staff don't come over, your teammates come help you up. Come on, Joe. You know what that is. I can tell you what that is that's the easiest thing all I'm saying Joe when you went down did the trainers down come or did your teammates come get you

52:57Joe Johnson:can I tell you what that was hey Joe can I tell you what that was

53:02Chad Johnson:what's that man

53:03Joe Johnson:I don't want to risk injuring myself and lessening my trade value so I'm going to go down and pretend I have a non-contact injury until they get this trade in place

53:15Chad Johnson:nah Nah, I'm sorry, man. I don't think Giannis move. He don't take me for that type of guy. Now, allow me the right to be wrong.

53:23Joe Johnson:Joe, I just told you inside the house is smell right now.

53:27Chad Johnson:Nah.

53:28Joe Johnson:I don't want to be inside the house while it's smell.

53:31Chad Johnson:That man worked too hard, bro. I don't see that man just giving up on their team like that. I think this injury is far more serious than what we can anticipate right now.

53:40Joe Johnson:Joe, you don't want to bet nothing, Joe. I'm telling you, Joe. You got to understand. What do you want to bet? Most of the time, when you see an individual like that, of course you wouldn't see him.

53:50Shannon Sharpe:They said it's his calf. Of course he worked hard. Now, obviously, Ocho, they're going to do an MRI. They're going to do a full battery of tests. They said it was his calf. They said, I guess they said the tendon is intact. Yeah. Yeah, they said it was a calf strength, Ocho. So that's what we got to go by. You know, a lot of people like it, you know, sometimes when guys want to get out of a situation, but I agree with you, Joe. I don't, Giannis doesn't take me for that type of a guy, but he doesn't take me for a guy that wanted to be moved during the season. Exactly. Now, if what Shams and if what Wendy, Brian Windhorse is saying, that he asked to be moved before the season.

54:27Chad Johnson:Yeah.

54:28Shannon Sharpe:So if what they're saying, if what they're reporting is true, that he asked out during the season because they got him damed in that situation at work. They bought dame out. Yeah. Now, here's the thing. Miles Turner, he signed with Milwaukee. to be with Giannis. He ain't there two months, and Giannis won out, and now he's stuck. He could have stayed in Indy.

54:50Chad Johnson:Well, listen, if he already told you before the season, look, man, I want y 'all to trade me. Y 'all didn't do it. We went with it. I'm not going to give up on y 'all, but I still want y 'all to know, look, I don't wipe my Instagram clean with y 'all, y 'all, so that's one sign. That's one sign, Ocho. That's one sign. Now, next sign is going to be, I'm just going to have to go and come public and tell y 'all I ain't looking.

55:11Shannon Sharpe:No, he definitely don't strike me. of that type of guy. Yeah, I'm saying if he really want to get out of there,

55:18Chad Johnson:that's how he going to be able to get out. He going to have to voice it. He going to have to say it.

55:21Shannon Sharpe:But what you going to have to – let me ask you a question, though. Let's just say he wanted to go to the Knicks. You're going to have to give up Carl Anthony Towns. You're going to have to give up Mikael Bridges. You're going to have to give up OG Ananobi. You're going to have to give up draft picks. It's him and Jalen Brunson. Jalen needs the ball. Giannis needs the ball. Is that enough? I think if you New York, you try to find a way

55:43Chad Johnson:to keep Brunson and Cat. There ain't no way. I say you want to try to find a way to keep them two. Because if you can keep them two and him, now we have to. Now Cat can just kind of stay out there on the three. He want to shoot threes anyway. But you got you a great rim roller, lob thrower, downhill guy. But you're going to probably have to give up Mikael and OG. You're going to have to probably give up both of them.

56:11Shannon Sharpe:You're giving up Cat because I need a superstar. And I'm not saying I think Cat's a star. I don't think he's a superstar. But you're going to have to give up Cat. What? Man. Oh, I think Mikael Bridges is fine. I think OG. But they ain't really selling no tickets like that. Cat was the number one overall draft pick. I got to have him.

56:34Shannon Sharpe:Because with Brunson based on the Eastern Conference this year, that might be enough. Now, Orlando's going to have something to say about that. Orlando's going to have something to say about that. When they get Vincaro back, the way Wagner's playing, the way Suggs is playing, the way Black is playing, they got Wendell Carter. Oh, no, no, no, no. They're going to have something to say now.

56:55Chad Johnson:Detroit's going to have something to say too.

56:57Shannon Sharpe:Detroit's going to have something to say. Cleveland, I got to see Cleveland because Cleveland do this to me every year. Donovan Mitchell do this to me every year. He get me so damn hype, and then he let me down.

57:08Chad Johnson:in Cleveland it's more of Darish Garland for me if he can stay healthy and be that guy next to Donovan but if he can't stay healthy it's like he'd be out there fighting against four or five different dudes by himself it's just too much it's too much

57:24Shannon Sharpe:I just think Cat's going to be a part of any trade now you got Josh Hart but I think Cat Mikael Bridges and OG. I think they're getting those guys.

57:37Chad Johnson:That's it. If you're Milwaukee, yes. You want Cat. If you're the Knicks, you want to try to keep Brunson and Cat. And I don't know how you do that and bring in Giannis. But you want to try to keep them two to have with him because just him and Brunson. Well, actually, I want him out the east.

57:53Shannon Sharpe:I'm sending him to the west. Okay, who got something for me in the west? I don't want him in the east. Why would I do that? and I gotta see this man at least four times a year Joe?

58:07Chad Johnson:No, hell no. He done brought you a championship I appreciate that and we played him handsomely I don't know what else y 'all want from me because he they not a championship inspiring team right now so I don't really know what you want from him at some point all good things gotta come to an end, right?

58:30Joe Johnson:yeah that's true and listen yeah he asked for a trade at the beginning of the season and the fact that hey listen the fact that obviously we we all have known people who who you would think would never do certain things and they do something out of character something that's very uncharacteristic of who they present themselves as publicly yeah yeah okay when this comes when this comes out and i tell y 'all this is his way out that there's nothing wrong with him he's going to make sure that he doesn't lose trade value by injuring himself right now. I guarantee you.

59:02Shannon Sharpe:I want those apologies for him. What about this? What about to the Mavericks? Anthony Davis and another player. Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis, Clay Thompson in the first round pick.

59:24Chad Johnson:Milwaukee ain't taking that. Milwaukee ain't taking that.

59:29Shannon Sharpe:Okay.

59:30Chad Johnson:Nah. If I'm Milwaukee, I ain't taking that. I'm sorry.

59:34Shannon Sharpe:Well, you won't. Hey, Joe, you hear what he said? Yeah. But he won't the Knicks to give up Bridges and OG and keep Cat. So Cat, Giannis, and Brunson.

59:46Chad Johnson:You're going to have to give up OG, Robinson, Mikael Bridges, some draft picks. They're going to want Cat.

59:56Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to tell you they're going to want Cat.

1:00:00Joe Johnson:Yeah, I'm curious to see how this is going to play out. They're going to want Cat. This is interesting.

1:00:05Chad Johnson:They probably do want him on, but if I'm the Knicks, I'm trying, like, you know what, not to give him up. Right.

1:00:20Shannon Sharpe:it's tough. And I think the thing is, Joe and Ocho, is that we've got to get out of this notion. Man, Burry would have never requested a trade. Magic would have never. Jordan, this one. It is a new day. It is a new era. I never would have thought eggs would cost$8 an effing dozen. I never thought cigarettes would be$10,$12 a pack. It is a different time. You've got to think differently. You can't use that same he would have never done. Yes, my grandmother and people's grandmother stayed through no matter what. It wasn't no divorce. Now, at the slightest. I'm out of here. Deuces. So we've got to stop this notion.

1:01:08Shannon Sharpe:Our former great players wouldn't do this. Yeah. Because it's a new day. social media, the landscape of professional sports is different now. It really is. And so

1:01:25Chad Johnson:Giannis in New York Giannis in New York would be crazy.

1:01:30Joe Johnson:Oh my God. That'd be nasty.

1:01:32Shannon Sharpe:That'd be nasty. What Giannis and Wimby with Castle See they got some Dillon Harper.

1:01:42Chad Johnson:San Antonio got some ancestors. They got some guys over there who Milwaukee wouldn't mind taking. They got a few of them over there.

1:01:49Joe Johnson:Hey, man, come on, man. Come on, now. Come on. That's not fair, now.

1:01:53Chad Johnson:What's not fair?

1:01:54Joe Johnson:How you going to have Giannis and Wimby on the same goddamn team? Come on, now.

1:02:00Chad Johnson:Hey, man. They got some guys to give up Ocho who can come over to Milwaukee and make some things happen.

1:02:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they do.

1:02:08Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:02:09Shannon Sharpe:I think, look, I think there going to be some guys. Would I be shocked if Ja got traded? No. Would I be shocked if Zion got traded? No. Oh, yeah.

1:02:16Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah.

1:02:17Shannon Sharpe:I'm not going to be shocked either one of those guys get moved.

1:02:20Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah.

1:02:21Shannon Sharpe:I think both places are kind of like, yeah, I've seen enough. Josh stays hurt, and he ain't learned his lesson.

1:02:28Joe Johnson:Yeah. Hey, listen. Hey, Joe. What's up? I know where he's going to learn his lesson at. Where? It ain't nothing like coming on down here to this military base down here in Miami.

1:02:39Shannon Sharpe:He can't play for a while in Spolstra.

1:02:41Joe Johnson:You hear me? Hey. Hey, you want some structure and discipline? Come on down here to this military base. Just like the Marines. We're going to get you right.

1:02:49Chad Johnson:Hey, I don't mind the shakeup, Uncle Ocho. You know, I don't mind seeing guys on the move, you know, especially some of these big names who I think need a fresh start. Yeah. A little change of scenery. Job playing in Miami. Yeah. Man, that's a different animal, Ocho.

1:03:05Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, don't worry. Listen, I'm going to make sure you stay focused.

1:03:09Shannon Sharpe:No. Joe. I tell you what. You went to somewhere that was really structured. How different was it for you where you couldn't be yourself? How different was that for you playing in New England as opposed to Cincinnati where you got to be Ocho Cinco, and when you went to New England, you had to be Chad Johnson?

1:03:28Joe Johnson:I mean, it was cool. It was cool. It was cool. That experience for me, honestly, being I understood my role once I got there, I wasn't there to be Ocho. Joe you hear me Joe yeah I wasn't there to be that Chad of old where I had the shoulder the brunt of everything on my shoulders when it came to us from an offensive perspective oh when I got there boy they was loaded so in my mind I'm like well what the hell y 'all brought me here for there's only one receiver that I know that went to New England who can play on the outside and was able to dominate. I'm talking about go crazy, and he's one of the best all time, and I don't compare nowhere close to that individual.

1:04:13Joe Johnson:In a way, I was at peace. Well, what you want me to do? Okay, and I definitely wasn't going to complain, because I understood. I understood that Patriot way. I understood that. So I went in there. Hell, you got Gronk. Joe, look who they got, Joe. They got Gronk. They got Aaron Hernandez. They got Wes Welker, they got Julian Edelman, Dion Branch, it was one more. It's somebody else. I'm like, well, God damn. Well, y 'all loaded. What? Man, what? The hell, they traded me here and they got all the, god damn, they got everything.

1:04:50Chad Johnson:But Ocho, you want to lead your imprint, though. You want to lead your imprint, though. You want to contribute. You want to be a factor on the squad, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It wasn't like you was there like, oh, I'm just chilling, okay? No, no, no, no, no.

1:05:03Joe Johnson:I mean, you're a competitor, bro. You're a competitor. Yeah, I'm a competitor, Joe, but Joe, you know, it wasn't going how I wanted it to go, and boy, I wasn't finna say not a goddamn word, bro. Hey, not over there, huh? Hey, Joe, I remember Randy said something in the media. I think about, you know, contraction, right, Unc? It was like some contraction about money. Yep. Boy, Joe, he was going in 24 hours, Joe.

1:05:27Shannon Sharpe:I'm like, oh, hell, hell no. If I'm not mistaken, I think they traded him back. to Minnesota and then Minnesota traded him to Tennessee. Hey Joe, he coming off a

1:05:38Joe Johnson:23 touchdown season, boy. 23 touchdown season? And you know, I would love to be compensated a little bit more if I'm not mistaken.

1:05:49Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. That might have been he was traded before you got to Ocho so because 2007 2008, I think he got traded in 2009 back to Minnesota. Yeah. Because remember Ocho, he saw that and then he ended up going to San Francisco. Yes. San Francisco went to the Super Bowl and played the Ravens.

1:06:07Joe Johnson:Yeah. Mm-hmm.

1:06:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:06:10Joe Johnson:This is a joke. One thing about it. It was a wonderful experience. It was a wonderful experience. And I think, honestly, for Ja being in that structured environment where it's a little bit more tight knit, you know, having someone like Pat Riley who rules with the iron fist, it can be a good thing for him. And adding that structure that he doesn't, in that discipline he doesn't have right now or that many may think he doesn't have right now.

1:06:35Chad Johnson:Oh, Joe. What's up? That Miami culture, that heat culture, let me tell you something, man. They got pre-practice before practice. Yes, that's what you need. And if practice is at 11, pre-practice is at about 9, 30, 10 o 'clock. Yeah. That ain't walking in at 9. That's ready to go on the floor. Yeah. You got D-Wade, UD. All these dudes are in pre-practice. So everybody's in pre-practice. It's just kind of the heat weight. It's how it is, man. It's like them dudes work, man. They put the work in, bro. So they ain't looking for nobody who coming in and you two swagged out to get in here two, three hours before practice, man.

1:07:12Chad Johnson:We trying to accomplish something.

1:07:14Joe Johnson:Nah, he own that. He own that. You know, that change of scenery, you know, that's what he want. You know, young boy want to be great. Okay. And he know he can't do what he want to do out there in Memphis. Memphis is a great place now. It's a great place. It's hard going to an unstructured,

1:07:33Shannon Sharpe:coming from an unstructured environment and being structured. It's hard. It's hard, Ocho. That's why the military, you can't be in there without discipline. They get you up out of there. They're going to break you. Do you understand? Go ahead.

1:07:53Joe Johnson:I was going to say the military, Joe, the Army, the Marines, the Navy you have no choice but to have discipline because one mistake there is no coming back this ain't call of duty this ain't call of duty Joe one mistake out there when it matters most when it actually counts you don't get once you get hit you done and then you're responsible for everybody else's life as well so you have no choice but to be structured and disciplined you can't make mistakes

1:08:24Shannon Sharpe:like Colonel Jeff ask Kathy, have you ever put your life in someone else's hand, man's hand and ask him to put his life in your hands? We follow rules or men die. Yeah.

1:08:38Joe Johnson:Hey, I don't even like the sound of that. That's too much pressure. I don't even like those expectations and the way it sounds, Joe.

1:08:47Chad Johnson:Me neither, old Joe.

1:08:48Joe Johnson:I don't even like the way it sounds. I don't want to be responsible for your life. Sometimes, Joe, you know and I'm talking about on a smaller scale where it's not life or death like in life football

1:09:00Shannon Sharpe:and basketball where you ask the man that's playing next to you to put his trust in you that you're going to do what you're supposed to do okay you ask that man that's on the court next to you Joe to put his trust in you yeah you put your trust in him you're right it's not to the magnitude of life or death but wins and losses and it feels like life and death because a lot of times when you losing is worse than death because you gotta wake up the next day. Come on now.

1:09:24Chad Johnson:Yeah, some of us process them losses a lot harder than others bro. Yeah, more definitely.

1:09:29Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely. More definitely. Yeah. The more you put into it, the harder it is. Absolutely right. We understand there are casualties, you know, hey, but I just, I could have been to the military because I grew up very disciplined, very structured. so it would have been nothing for me. You definitely could go.

1:09:50Joe Johnson:It would have been nothing for me. You definitely could go.

1:09:53Shannon Sharpe:Because Barty Porter wouldn't have it any other way.

1:09:57Joe Johnson:No other way. Yeah. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Now that on the topic, obviously keeping everything in the context and perspective, talk about going to the military, Joe. You saw Full Metal Jacket?

1:10:09Chad Johnson:I have, but I can't really remember a lot.

1:10:11Joe Johnson:You were Private Pyle. Hey, I would have been Private Pyle. Boy, you put me in the military? Terry, I'm private file. I'm messing up. Hey, I'm still - Did you see a few good men?

1:10:21Shannon Sharpe:Hey, oh, that's a beautiful movie. When they ordered the code red? Yeah. When, hold up. Hey, Santiago.

1:10:29Joe Johnson:Yeah, Santiago.

1:10:30Shannon Sharpe:You remember when Santiago kept messing up and they ordered the code red? He's like, you're damn right I did.

1:10:35Joe Johnson:Hey, he got to go.

1:10:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Hey, listen. He got to go. He had a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. Right. You weep for Santiago. You curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. My existence, and grotesque, and incomprehensible to you saved lives. You don't want the truth, because deep down in places at parties you don't talk about, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words of a backbone of a lifetime spent defending something. You use them as a punchline.

1:11:13Shannon Sharpe:I have the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of freedom that I provide and then question the manner in which I provide it. Come on, man. Whether you said thank you, anyone on your way, or pick a weapon up at standard post, either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. Did you order the code red? I did my job. Did you order the code red? You damn right I did.

1:11:40Shannon Sharpe:So that's what you're up against.

1:11:44Chad Johnson:Hey, when I was in high school, I don't know about y 'all, but they had an army people that set out. Yeah, ROTC. Yeah, they tried to recruit you coming out of high school, right? Yeah. To join the army. So you got your homeboy there signing you up without even telling you. So them people calling me out. Look, I got people calling me out. This is Joe Johnson. Yes, this is him. Trying to recruit me to come to the army. Boy, please. I ain't going to the army. Hey, look, I'm my mama's only child. I'm understanding right now.

1:12:14Shannon Sharpe:And then you wouldn't get drafted because you the only son.

1:12:19Chad Johnson:Right, that's what I'm trying to tell you. I made sure I told him that really.

1:12:22Shannon Sharpe:But if you got a bunch of sons, oh well. Your ass grass.

1:12:28Chad Johnson:You can get off my line with all this here for a while.

1:12:31Joe Johnson:That's crazy. Hey, I don't mean to go off topic, but you took theater in the arts like me? No. So how do you know that whole line?

1:12:46Shannon Sharpe:I just have an amazing ability to recall information. I've always had that ability. And I think it came from my grandfather because he put a lot of pressure on us because back then we didn't have no cell phone. So my grandfather would get somebody's number and he would say, tell it to them two boys. It was me and my brother. So he would tell us, the guy or the person would tell us the number, me and Spanky the number, and we'd have to recall it once we got home. Now, there are a lot of times we weren't going right home. We go to somebody's house or we go do something else. And by the time he get home, he's like, hey, boy, what was that number?

1:13:17Shannon Sharpe:Such and such told you. And we'd have to recall it. So ever since then, I've always been able to recall information. And that's why like plays and stuff, I could just recall it, recall it, recall it. And so I've always had that ability to have tremendous recall.

1:13:32Joe Johnson:And that's really dope. I don't think people understand how dope that is. the fact that you can still recall that moment one of one of the the better scenes from that movie oh yeah obviously the most important scene that everybody recites yeah the fact that you can still recite it after all this time and that movie came out how long ago and tom cruise tom cruise looked like a damn teenager in that movie yeah yeah and if i was and you know it's funny and then just if i was able to do a movie right where it's a scene that's very impactful and and it has a lot of meaning to it. Similar to that, it's a little different, but any given Sunday.

1:14:10Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:14:11Joe Johnson:When Al Pacino gave that speech, the six inches. Remember that six inches speech? Yep, yeah. Man, if I, you know what I'm, matter of fact, that's my homework. That's my homework, is to watch that movie and see if I can recite it when we do the show Saturday. He,

1:14:27Shannon Sharpe:actually, he followed Mike Shanahan around. For real? Yep. Patrino did. Yep. To get rid of it. He was at practice, came to meetings to see how Mike conducted instead of in front of the meeting, how he talked to us and things like that. Yep.

1:14:41Joe Johnson:Yeah, I like that. Hey, that's six inches of speech. Hey, Joe, I used to play that sometime, you know, obviously before games. You listen to music sometimes. Obviously, I was more blues, classical type dude, you know, because I want my mind to be calm.

1:14:55Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:14:56Joe Johnson:So I remember there was a few games. I would listen to that six inches of speech. No, it just gets you hyped up, Joe. it gets you hyped up man I already know yeah

1:15:09Shannon Sharpe:but I just had that ability to call information it's a blessing and a curse sometimes you remember everything you know when you in a relationship or you remember everything else you can't remember that you don't remember where you was you don't remember what you did who you was with

1:15:26Chad Johnson:oh yeah all I said is that

1:15:30Joe Johnson:you got me under the gun tell me everything I need to know hey that's not a good thing that's a gift and a curse now the fact that you can recall everything especially when it comes to having a partner and she know you know and don't forget nothing that's a gift and a curse

1:15:52Chad Johnson:now you're out here playing yeah hey look look look y 'all far from crazy but you can play crazy Like my pops just tell me, well I'm far from crazy, but I can play crazy now. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's what I asked.

1:16:08Shannon Sharpe:Man, he crazy. I'm like, get a check crazy or play play crazy? Cause he get a check crazy, that's one thing. Play play crazy, I can deal with. But if you get a check, I don't want no part of that. Yes, yeah.

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