Nightcap Hour 1: Claressa Shields DEFEATS Franchon Crews-Dezurn + Bleacher Report RANKS TOP 99 QBs in NFL HISTORY + Aaron Rodgers RETURNING for 1 MORE Year + Sean Mannion REPLACES Kevin Patella as Eagles OC

23 Feb 2026 · 1 h 14 min · 26 chapters

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Episode Information

  • Title: Nightcap Hour 1: Claressa Shields DEFEATS Franchon Crews-Dezurn + Bleacher Report RANKS TOP 99 QBs in NFL HISTORY + Aaron Rodgers RETURNING for 1 MORE Year + Sean Mannion REPLACES Kevin Patella as Eagles OC
  • Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
  • Date: Not specified
  • Duration: Not specified
  • Sponsor: PrizePicks

Episode Highlights

  1. Claressa Shields vs. Franchon Crews-Dezurn
  2. Fight Result: Claressa Shields retained her title against Franchon Crews-Dezurn by unanimous decision (100-90 from all judges).
  3. Fight Dynamics:
  4. Both fighters displayed aggression, but Shields maintained better conditioning and technique.
  5. The discussion highlighted the importance of strategic fighting, with Shields displaying superior skill and composure under pressure.
  6. The commentary emphasized the necessity of using a jab rather than engaging in a slugfest early on.
  1. Danielle Perkins vs. Che Kenneally
  2. Fight Result: Danielle Perkins defeated Che Kenneally, establishing herself in the light heavyweight division.
  3. Discussion Points:
  4. Perkins exhibited effective striking, quickly bringing the fight to an end.
  1. Joe George Jr. Incident
  2. Incident Overview: Joe George Jr. collapsed and left the ring on a stretcher after round one.
  3. Discussion:
  4. Concerns arose regarding potential health issues exacerbated by a clash of heads earlier in the fight.
  5. The hosts expressed shock at the severity of the situation, noting it was unprecedented in their experience.
  1. Bleacher Report Ranks Top 99 QBs in NFL History
  2. Top Five Rankings:
  3. Tom Brady
  4. Joe Montana
  5. Peyton Manning
  6. Patrick Mahomes
  7. Aaron Rodgers
  8. Highlights:
  9. Brady's position as number one is unquestioned due to his accomplishments.
  10. The hosts debated the merits of other rankings, expressing mixed feelings regarding Aaron Rodgers' high placement despite having only one Super Bowl win.
  11. The discussion acknowledged the changing dynamics of the game, noting that statistics from different eras should be considered when evaluating quarterbacks.
  1. Aaron Rodgers' Potential Return
  2. Discussion Points:
  3. Speculation that Aaron Rodgers may return for one more season, possibly with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
  4. The hosts discussed the implications of his return and the effectiveness of the Steelers' roster.
  1. Eagles’ Offensive Coordinator Change
  2. Sean Mannion: Announced as the replacement for Kevin Patella as the Eagles' OC.
  3. Saquon Barkley’s Thoughts:
  4. Expressed excitement about learning a new system, emphasizing the importance of adapting and evolving as a player.

Key Takeaways

  • The episode featured engaging discussions surrounding notable boxing matches and NFL history, highlighting the expertise of the hosts.
  • There was a focus on the technical aspects of boxing, showcasing the importance of strategy and conditioning.
  • The analysis of the top quarterbacks in NFL history sparked considerable debate about legacy, statistics, and the evolution of the game.
  • The discussions provided insights into player dynamics, coaching strategies, and the impact of injuries and roster changes on team performance.

Closing Notes

  • Listeners are encouraged to subscribe to the Nightcap podcast and share their thoughts on the episode.
  • The next segment promises to tackle further sports discussions and reactions to ongoing events in the world of sports.

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Analysis of Clarissa Shields vs. Franchon Crews-Dezurn Fight

3:38 to 4:35

Dive into the details of Clarissa Shields' fight and her strategic advantages.

“It was a very interesting fight, but Clarissa Shields, She did come out on top by a unanimous decision, but it was a very interesting fight.”

Fight Tactics and Performance Insights

4:35 to 7:39

Explore the tactics used by both fighters and how it affected the match outcome.

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Future Fights for Clarissa Shields

7:39 to 10:19

Discuss potential opponents for Clarissa Shields and her next steps in boxing.

“If you just look at in the corners you see how the calm on Clarissa's face and then you look at Miss Duzern she was breathing out of her mouth.”

Comparing Boxing Legends: Floyd Mayweather and Clarissa Shields

10:19 to 14:02

Examine the legacy of Floyd Mayweather in relation to current boxing stars.

“I mean, you got you going for the most part, your legs are already shot.”

Analyzing Floyd Mayweather's Boxing Style

14:02 to 16:54

Learn about Floyd Mayweather's evolution as a boxer and his strategic fighting style.

“Yeah, Ocho, go back and look when he fought Gotti.”

Clarissa Shields and Future Matchups

16:54 to 18:15

Discussing Clarissa Shields' recent performance and potential future fights.

“You know, I'm inspired for what you what's going on.”

Lighthearted Banter on Podcast Boxing

18:15 to 19:32

Engaging in humorous conversations about potential boxing matches with podcast personalities.

“Hey, Rashad, tell Rashad McCann, come on in here, man.”

Clarissa Shields' Recent Fight Analysis

22:05 to 25:03

A detailed breakdown of Shields' performance and a shocking incident in a recent fight.

“And then Perkins proved herself seizing the belt.”

Unusual Incident in Boxing

25:03 to 27:41

Discussing a rare and alarming incident that occurred during a boxing match.

“It's like all of a sudden it's like a delayed reaction.”

Ranking the Top 99 NFL Quarterbacks

27:41 to 28:00

Exploring the Bleacher Report's rankings of the top NFL quarterbacks.

“Hopefully we'll get some reports tomorrow and we can have something report back to you guys tomorrow.”
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NFL Free Agency Insights

28:51 to 30:08

Explore insights on NFL free agency and player movements.

“The games may be over, but the NFL never stops.”

Ranking the Greatest QBs

30:08 to 34:18

Discussion on the rankings of the top NFL quarterbacks and their legacies.

“He once held a record for the most passing touchdowns.”

Comparing Eras in Football

34:18 to 36:48

Understanding how different eras in football affect player comparisons.

“I think Steve won the MVP in like 92 and 94.”

Future of NFL Quarterbacks

36:48 to 42:00

Insights into the next generation of quarterbacks and their potential.

“I mean, you're probably going to say, but I can make a case that Jerry is the greatest NFL player ever.”

Analyzing NFL Quarterback Rankings

42:00 to 45:20

A detailed discussion on the rankings and achievements of various NFL quarterbacks.

“When it's all said and done, they take this thing in another 10 years, they're going to be up a little higher.”

Aaron Rodgers' Potential Return

45:20 to 47:20

Exploring the implications of Aaron Rodgers returning for another NFL season.

“He might – could he have been four if he went to and got more Super Bowl?”

Saquon Barkley's New System

47:20 to 51:00

Saquon Barkley discusses adapting to a new offensive system in his ninth year.

“and you know it's going to be open for you every single time.”

Eagles' Offensive Line and Strategy

51:00 to 54:00

Analyzing the health and performance of the Eagles' offensive line for the upcoming season.

“But just having the old one and knowing everything from front to back, it pays dividends.”

Upcoming Free Agency Insights

54:00 to 55:50

Discussion on the upcoming free agency and its impact on NFL teams.

“So hopefully, and when, look, he's just one of the best.”

Spring Forward: Time Changes and Birthdays

56:00 to 58:10

Discussion about the upcoming time change and personal birthday preferences.

“I haven't had a party for my birthday yet.”

Eagles Strategy: Team Management Insight

58:10 to 1:00:40

Analysis of the Eagles' management and strategy under Howie Roseman.

“Because the one thing that we know about Jeffrey Lourdes, that he gives Howie Roseman a lot of control.”

Food and Family: Celebrating with a Hood Party

1:00:40 to 1:05:20

Conversations about food, parties, and family gatherings with humorous anecdotes.

“I'm just saying in general, I got a dude and get you 100 pounds for$200.”

TikTok Cooking and Parenting Insights

1:05:20 to 1:10:00

Discussion on parenting, cooking for large families, and TikTok recipes.

“to understand during football i'm only going six months out of the year so what they do in those six months.”

Discussing Family and Future Plans

1:10:01 to 1:14:10

The hosts share light-hearted conversations about family planning and the idea of having children.

“But I didn't know I had a TikTok, y 'all.”

Understanding In Vitro Fertilization

1:14:11 to 1:15:28

A detailed explanation of the in vitro fertilization process and its implications.

“They take these shots, stimulate, then they harvest the eggs.”

Costs and Realities of IVF

1:15:29 to 1:17:50

The hosts discuss the financial aspects of IVF and the challenges that come with it.

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3:38Shannon Sharpe:Well, we got what we wanted, Ocho. We got some action. We got live action. Yes, sir. It was a very interesting fight, but Clarissa Shields, She did come out on top by a unanimous decision, but it was a very interesting fight. I didn't think it was going to go the distance, but both ladies survived. We'll jump into that in a minute. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y 'all know who I am. I am your favorite on. And there's my partner and co-host Liberty City's own Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, a Madding Ratings adjuster, a former Pro Bowler, and an All-Pro. That is Chad Ochocinco Johnson.

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4:41Shannon Sharpe:if you cannot find LaPortier in a state or city near you. Now, it is a premium VSOP cognac, the best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. But don't take my word for it. Try it and compare it against other cognacs. You'll see that we have the best. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Ocho Clarissa Shields successfully defended her undisputed heavyweight crown in a rematch against Franchon. DeCruz discerned her longtime rival. With an unanimous decision, and all three judges scored the fight 100 to 90 in Mrs. Shields' favor. Yes. Ocho, what did you like about this fight?

5:18Chad Johnson:I mean, I like Franshawn came out with a great game plan. Be aggressive. Try to bully the bully. Obviously, I was kind of not scared, but I was kind of worried about her coming out so aggressive and balling and punching and being able to tire herself out a little too early. I think she should have stuck with the jab and actually boxed a little bit more. Getting to a slugfest with Clarissa, shields i'm not sure that was a great idea but i understand the game plan that she tried to implement into the fight try to bully her frustrated early but it just didn't work down down the stretch i think it might have been round seven i thought she was gonna go down i did too i did yeah i thought she was gonna go down and um obviously you can tell from a conditioning standpoint that clarissa shield was in in better shape she was she had better conditioning and she

6:03Shannon Sharpe:was able to last the rest of the fight yeah uh um i was concerned because you're talking about But if you watch the heavyweights, Ocho, they're very strategic with their punches. Because you're asking, that's a lot of, normally we're talking about men, that's a lot of men, 230, 240, 250, to try to throw volume punches like somebody 130, 135, 140. So I was surprised that they came out because both women made the weight under the 175. But that being said, I was like, well, damn, I understood DeJern's game plan. Let me smother. I don't want to be on the end of these punches. Let me get inside. I agree with you.

6:43Shannon Sharpe:She forgot about the jab because she was having some success with the jab. But as she like, damn, I'm hitting her with some overhands too. Let me try to keep this going. I was like, unless she's in like peak, peak, peak condition, for her to fight at the pace that she came out in the first two rounds,

7:03Chad Johnson:I was like, the likelihood of that happening is not very good. No, no, no, no. Not, listen, being throwing volume punches like that, somewhat, some a little radic, some a little wild. Yes. To be able to retain that kind of volume, it's slim to none. It's slim to none. Throwing punches takes it out of you. Yeah. I understood what she was trying to do. So do I. Maybe I can catch her early. Maybe I can catch her early and then frustrate her a little bit. But obviously, Clarissa, I mean, listen, she was calm. She was relaxed. She was relaxed. And the barrage of punches really didn't faze her. and obviously once they got into deeper deeper waters I mean she was able to take control of the fight.

7:39Shannon Sharpe:If you just look at in the corners you see how the calm on Clarissa's face and then you look at Miss Duzern she was breathing out of her mouth. Her mouth was basically opening and that was one of the things I was like man she's breathing she's really fatigued she's really tired I mean Clarissa probably can land something and probably get out of here but give her credit give her credit to last 10 rounds because she was Ocho she was spent after the first two she was spent after the first two she had spent all that whole dollar that your grandparents and your mom used to give you way back when and you go to the store and you spent it all in one fell swoop don't spend it all in one place well you should have told me that before I left because it's gone and that's what happened in those first two rounds and she tried to smother I give you that like hey let me fight on the inside but if she probably would have stopped now i'm not saying it would have changed anything though oh yeah right because i think clarissa shields is the more skilled fighter and it showed she landed crisper even though uh uh french on did get some punches in yes the cleaner punches were landed by clarissa yeah uh you know she fought behind the jab she hit a couple times with the overhand right i'm like well damn and she ain't get out of there with with that um but this is what i want to see i want to see action i want to see live action and that's what we got from from the start of the bell yeah She had her action slowed down, but they were still throwing punches.

9:01Shannon Sharpe:Give her credit. She tried to smother her, tried to take as much stick. Look, if I just lean on you, I'm zapping some of your energy too because you got to hold both of our big asses up. You got to hold yourself up. Hey, you got to hold me up. Yep. But look, I like this. I don't really know. I mean, the previous fight, Danielle Perkins stopped this lady and Clarissa knocked her down in the final round, so i don't really know who's left plug clarissa to fight maybe maybe we can coach a lady to come out of retirement and give us some work but i don't really know where where she goes i mean i don't see her dropping back down to go down to 55 or something like that oh yeah well well she called

9:42Chad Johnson:someone out after the fight i'm not sure yes i'm not sure what the young lady name was and she said listen uh 165 i think that the weight she might have said i can get down to 165 or 168 whatever it may have been but she called out and asked if she was in the crowd if she was in the crowd please come to the ring i'm not sure if the young lady was there for the fight but but she called someone out and um obviously i mean i'm not sure where she goes from here i'm not sure where she goes from here um i'm i'm happy for her uh she said what she was going to do and she went out

10:13Shannon Sharpe:there and delivered she's very impressive and and i think this might have been one of the most impressive fights that i've seen a fight in some time sometimes i think she get like they're not on her level but this lady came to fight and delayed a forester she had no choice she didn't have no choice but to get delayed up off in the back because it's a it's something don't show if if i'm pressuring you and i can't get you up and i can't get you up off me well i i've been for a long night she pressured as much as she could but after she felt a couple of those blows she's like well damn i'm on your honey but damn these bee stings hurt oh yeah and so but as you saw the as it started to progress you started to see rounds four round five the shots got even cleaner yeah and it's like oh damn yeah let me let me re let me regroup and think about another uh but i thought also she stayed right in front of her she didn't get angles or nothing oh you can't stay right now you can't just knock on somebody's front don't hold your try the window you gotta spend

11:15Chad Johnson:you gotta be on the angle yeah you you got listen it's only so much you can do especially when you exert that much any early early on in the fight. I mean, you got you going for the most part, your legs are already shot. Your legs are already gone. So you ain't got no choice but to stand right in front of them.

11:30Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And the thing is, she was a, oh, you got to be at an angle. You give it.

11:34Chad Johnson:Oh, they stay straight ahead.

11:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Hey, you better get half the, it's kind of like when we play wide, we would play receiver going against a DB half a man, half a man,

11:45Chad Johnson:Half a man every time.

11:47Shannon Sharpe:I'm going inside. I'm going outside. I ain't going right down the middle. I'm not going to let you get both hands in my breast. One or the other. But it was an action-packed fight. This is what you want to see happen. Like I said, you mentioned that because I had come downstairs to get ready for the show. And you said she had called somebody out. So I didn't hear who she called out. Oh, hold on.

12:13Shannon Sharpe:oh oh uh shadisha green okay i wants to fight shadisha shadisha green and michaela meyer yeah was that the one that's on the broadcast hold on that was the lady was that the white lady on the broadcast oh that was mikaela yeah oh okay because she sure had me she was talking like she could like like she got a lot of uh like this is what she should do see i love when people say this is what they should do okay well you get a chance to do it do exactly what you told mr zurn she should have been doing um but i like this i i like like i said i like i don't i don't really know only thing i know is that the lady was commenting.

12:58Shannon Sharpe:Yes. And I think she got some belts or something. I don't know Shadisa. Yeah, dude. She's 16 and 1 with 11 KOs, Ocho. So she got power. Oh, yeah.

13:14Shannon Sharpe:Clarissa is 18 and 0 with only three knockouts. Yeah. Clarissa is technically sound. And she has more power at that. Obviously, Ocho, as you go up in weight.

13:25Chad Johnson:Yeah.

13:25Shannon Sharpe:For the most part. Now, some people, sometimes you lose that advantage.

13:30Chad Johnson:Yes.

13:30Shannon Sharpe:The only guy that, hell, Pacquiao, I don't know how he goes from down 112 all the way to 154 and still flow boring people.

13:38Chad Johnson:Still powerful.

13:40Shannon Sharpe:We'll talk about that at another date and time, but we've never seen anybody that could go through eight divisions and still have knockout power.

13:49Chad Johnson:Yeah.

13:49Shannon Sharpe:Normally, you lose something.

13:51Chad Johnson:You didn't lose jack. Nah, not at all. Not at all.

13:55Shannon Sharpe:Because you're fighting guys bigger. those guys are able to take a punch better than the guys that were fighting at a small at a smaller weight yeah most definitely so uh and that's why i was like you know people talk about floyd floyd floyd go back look at floyd at 130 130 oh yeah 135 140 hold on go look at go go look at floyd chat when he was money mayweather yeah no no no no when you're pretty boy pretty boy

14:20Chad Johnson:when he was pretty boy floyd yeah getting in and then he understood shadesha shadesha yeah

14:26Shannon Sharpe:Okay, Shadesha. Yeah, Ocho, go back and look when he fought Gotti. Look at when he fought Ricky Hatton. Yeah. He pitched a shutout against, what was it, Juan Marquez? Yeah, Juan Marquez. Pitched a shutout. Yeah. Go back and look at him earlier. Go back and take a look at what he did to Corrales. Yeah, Diego. Oh, that was a good fight, boy. That Diego fight was good. Like I said, once Floyd broke his hand, he's like, man, I cannot run the risk of being in here with some of these dangerous fighters and fighting these guys one-handed. So he's changed his style. He was very strategic. He always had to fill his shell, but then he developed that pull counter.

15:12Shannon Sharpe:He could pick off anything. He's looking to counter everything, and people were afraid of him. And people were like, oh, he ain't got no power. Tell me the time you saw somebody walk him down. you walk somebody down but you don't feel their power yeah tell me the time in all in 50 fights

15:27Chad Johnson:that you saw somebody walk him down and and people have to understand and they'll they'll probably revert back to the medena fight where obviously floyd as as skilled as he is he's good fighting off his front foot he's good fighting off his back foot yeah every time you're in the ring you know throughout a fight you're not going to always be moving forward so at some at some point And at times, you do have to, you know, go back. You do have to retreat, not get on your bicycle. But it's just, it's boxing in general, you know. And he's probably the best at that, being able to fight in a multitude of ways.

16:00Chad Johnson:In regards to a pressure fighter, you know, you want to fight mid-range. You want to fight in the pocket. You want to fight at distance. Floyd is one that can just do damn near everything. He could.

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16:11Shannon Sharpe:And I think the thing is that, look, guys, it's a fight. You're going to get hit. Only Roy Jones has ever been in a fight. and CompuBox didn't get hit for an entire 12th round, which is unheard of. You will never see that again. But you're going to get hit. Yeah, Madonna landed some good shots. Oh, yeah.

16:28Chad Johnson:Hey, them crazy overheads he was on. Yes. Yes. I don't even think that was illegal. He was just, he throwing way up here, coming over, you know, a Floyd in the Philly shell. He coming over the top. He coming over the top.

16:41Shannon Sharpe:So, hey, because you like this. And that thing coming from a blind point. but I was very impressed with Clarissa she did a great job hey if she looked like this and like I said I don't know a whole lot about Shadesha Miss Green but hey let's make it happen let's make it happen oh yeah Michaela Meyer hey you can get some of this action too make it happen hey I'm all for I want to see a fight me too

17:15Chad Johnson:Hey, I listen. I'm so inspired. I'm so inspired. You know, I'm inspired for what you what's going on. What's popping? I want to I want to fight, too. I want to fight. I don't know. You know, there's so many other podcasts out there and they have people that, you know, that they like chirping. They like talking a lot. I mean, I would love to get in the ring with somebody from another podcast. We like a podcast Olympics. I already mentioned your own on that. No, no. You're going to be my you're going to be my cut man.

17:42Shannon Sharpe:now you why you laughing if you want to talk about a workout somebody want to go to the gym and bench and do some stuff like that now we talking yeah i i want to get in the ring i just

17:52Chad Johnson:i don't i don't know who i can well you need who you want to fight you want to fight uh uh somebody

17:56Shannon Sharpe:from uh uh uh uh you want somebody from uh uh uh uh uh uh hey you know what it is i mean

18:03Chad Johnson:you know it don't matter just put their name in a hat anybody can get it anybody can get it I bet Cam might box. Which Cam? Cam Ron. Nah, Cam don't box. Cam don't box. Hey, what about Cam Newton box?

18:24Chad Johnson:I don't know if Cam box. Nah, he don't. He don't. I mean, somebody, somebody. Oh, Rashad McCann. Hey, Rashad, tell Rashad McCann, come on in here, man. Get these hands, man. Yeah. Matter of fact, hey, who owe me cigars? kenya kenya kenya martin let me get my sir matter of fact you know what i'm gonna whoop your ass kenya martin because i'm way they're young he okay he owe me my cigars man he do he owe you some daniel marshall's also yeah man i need i need them man yeah because i need my cut of the daniel marshall hey speaking of speaking of uh boxing you know swaggy p and um swaggy p and um blue face getting ready to fight all right yeah blue face yeah blue face say he box you want to box blue face uh blue face he'll get you out of there hey huh blue face he'll get you out of there yeah on blood blue face to get his ass what what what what you talking about what is me oh i'm just telling what

19:22Shannon Sharpe:he told me on the show he said uh oh don't want none of this yeah hey anytime you want to do it

19:27Chad Johnson:that's on dead homies whatever he want to do whenever he want to do it i'm here after him and Swaggy go, me and Blueface, we can get it on.

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20:19Chad Johnson:countdown is on to our 2026 iheart podcast awards live from south by southwest march 16th we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards.

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21:03Chad Johnson:I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and free agents. The games may be over, but the NFL never stopped. This is my favorite part of the calendar. Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, Pro Days trades. This is where teams reshape their future. This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money on 40s and free agents. We break down every move that actually matters from my draft evaluations, mock drafts and team fits to my top one on one free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts and all the tough decisions included. You got quarterbacks on the move.

21:40Chad Johnson:We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season. Yeah, absolutely. It's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise and what it means for your favorite team. Smart analysis, real conversations every week. I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

22:03Shannon Sharpe:Have never truly felt a real dealt with a real challenge before. And then Perkins proved herself seizing the belt. caught a caught a with a loop and left left hook and then the check bam out of there yeah hey I feel you saw a split yep what you what you think she bit down on the lip by accident I don't know maybe them gloves maybe she twist them gloves but you know what Ocho used to see a lot more because when guys fought with gloves they fought with those eight ounce gloves back in the days I think everybody I think every championship fight nice with 10 ounces, right? Special lower weights, they go up to 12, heavy weights might fight with 12.

22:45Shannon Sharpe:But anyway, they used to fight with 8-ounce gloves. And people got cut a lot more. Maybe it was because of the fluctuation of weight, the dehydration, and then all of a sudden, you fill back up with fluid and so your skin's a little loose or whatever the case may be. You got to Vaseline

23:04Chad Johnson:up, man. Every time you got a Vaseline. But you put too much Vaseline, you got to let your skin breathe. Yeah, I mean, you're right. But listen, you want to protect yourself. So you put the Vaseline just so the glove can slide off.

23:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah, you do. But hey, Daniel Perkins, I was like, okay. Because the first, she was showboating and diving in. And then she's like, you know what? Let me go and get you up out. Let me sit down on some of these punches. and a combo left right and the right was mainly a check but wrestling nah we good it's a wrap we good but this is a perk is who Clarissa fought earlier and Clarissa dropped her but I like discern. She didn't back up. I mean, yes, she was gassed, and a lot of times when you get gassed, you start running, but she didn't run. She stood there, fought toe-to-toe with her, and it was a very interesting fight.

24:12Shannon Sharpe:It was a scary scene at the Little Caesars Arena. Joe George Jr. left the ring on a stretcher after he collapsed in his corner following a first-round light heavyweight fight against Atif Overton. The boxers butted head in the opening rounds. After the round, George fell out of his stool while sitting in the corner. George regained continence what was unable to continue the match um and over the 10 overton uh was deemed the winner by tko i never seen anything like that ocho hey me neither it was the first time i'm not sure what

24:42Chad Johnson:happened uh may i'm not sure um maybe trying to cut weight on that that might have maybe had something to do with it uh the clash of heads but even with the clash of heads you sit down in your corner and you actually pass out on your stool i'm not sure where that i mean i'm not sure where that can be from i have no idea i hope young bull is okay uh but that that's something i've never

25:04Shannon Sharpe:seen before it's almost like he's short-circuited because when it happened ocho he blinked and blink yeah and then sat down and the next thing you know he was like slump yeah and i don't even think his corner realized what would happen no because they look at the robin like well damn you was corner um and so like i said i had never you know obviously we never seen anything like that now I mean, like I said, I mean, him to be in his corner and he's sitting on the stool because like you said, they did a butthead. He's like, damn. Yeah. OK. You go sit down. It's like all of a sudden it's like a delayed reaction.

25:40Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You know, somebody you get hit and then you stand up and then all of a sudden your legs start wobbling. Right. Like, damn. And that's what it happened. It's like it's like a delayed reaction. He sat down. And next thing you know, he was slumped. i i'm sure and he's asking like what happened and they can't explain it they told me oh you you you banged heads and we thought you were fine the next thing you know right that's scary ocho situations like that are are we sure are we sure the right thing for him is to continue this course

26:09Chad Johnson:of action i mean it depends it depends if he sees the doctor and they and they they figure out what it was and what the reason was behind him behind it i mean it could be it could be something from training it could be uh his nutrition it can it could be so many different factors that might have led to that because obviously boxers they they hit heads you know accidentally all the time but we've never seen a situation like this where two box where boxers you know they collide heads by accident and one goes to the corner and sits on a stool and passes out so it might be some other things that led up to this that had nothing to do with the actual head but itself

26:44Shannon Sharpe:and the thing is ocho but normally like when you get a concussion i mean we we walk up on our own power. You know what I'm saying? Hey, now I'm good. Hey, you know, they keeping a close eye on you. Right. But this situation, it was really, really scary because like I said, I haven't seen anything like this. And I've seen thousands of boxing matches. Boxing matches used to come on regular TV. The boxing match used to come on CBS. You could see great fights. You could see Tyson. You could see all the great fights come on CBS. Yeah, that was back in the days. Back in the day. And so, and it was like, damn.

27:19Shannon Sharpe:but hopefully everything worked out okay. He seemed to be okay, but he still wasn't able to – because he was wobbly. Like, when they tried to lead him out of the ring, he was wobbly. They were like, nah, bro, we got to hold on to you. We can't take no chances, man. But hopefully he's okay. It was a very scary scene for the young man, but as we said over – they said he left, and we'll see. Hopefully we'll get some reports tomorrow and we can have something report back to you guys tomorrow. Ocho. Yeah. The Bleacher Report ranked the top 99 quarterbacks in NFL history. No surprise. Number one was Tom Brady.

27:55Number two was Joe Montana. Number three was Peyton Manning.

28:01Shannon Sharpe:Number four, Patrick Mahomes.

28:03Chad Johnson:This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards.

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28:50Chad Johnson:I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and free agents. The games may be over, but the NFL never stops. This is my favorite part of the calendar. Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future. This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money. On 40s and free agents, we break down every move that actually matters. From my draft evaluations, mock drafts, and team fits. To my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included. You got quarterbacks on the move.

29:27Chad Johnson:We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season. Yeah, absolutely. It's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise, and what it means for your favorite team. Smart analysis, real conversations every week. I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and Free Agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

29:49Shannon Sharpe:Number five, Aaron Rodgers. Number six, John Elway. Number seven, Brett Favre. Number eight, Drew Brees. Number nine, Steve Young.

30:00Chad Johnson:And number ten, Dan Marino. What you thinking?

30:08Shannon Sharpe:What? I mean. I mean you like the rankings is anybody too high anybody too low I mean I like the rankings

30:15Chad Johnson:obviously Aaron Rodgers only winning one Super Bowl I mean he's up there about kind of high um there are other quarterbacks yeah oh so so they see matter of fact when it comes to this situation right now and we talk about some of the greatest quarterbacks that have ever played this game I think people can very be very meticulous when it comes to who they want at what position and where they actually belong because there's so many things you can fight for depending on who you like and where you want them positioned when it comes to a list of this magnitude listen everybody everybody on that list is worthy obviously tom brady has to be number one the fact that patrick holmes is still playing and he's already number four number three on this list i'm not sure before payton payton was a spot in front of him at three yeah i mean that that's unbelievable

30:56Shannon Sharpe:he's the only five-time mvp in the in in league history uh he had all the records when he retired obviously they've since been broken yeah um still has the most passing yards in the season the most passing touchdowns in a season. He once held a record for the most passing touchdowns. He broke Dan Marino's record of 48 with 49. Tom breaks his record with 50, and then he says, I'm going to do 10 % better than what you did, Tom. I'm going to break it by five. So he has 55 over 5 ,400 passes. I think he has 5 ,477. And since then, nobody's really come close. Now, I think somebody, when they get to this 18-game schedule, I think it's just a matter of time.

31:37Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah, absolutely. And also on that list, I mean, top 10, I mean, it depends. Chad, y 'all let me know what you think. You think about Drew Brees. You think about someone like Troy Aikman, who's won three Super Bowls as well. Drew Brees, statistically, his numbers are up there and almost comparable with everyone else, if I'm not mistaken. I don't have the numbers right in front of me.

31:55Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he had the record before Brady broke him.

31:57Chad Johnson:Yeah, so I know he's not that damn far off. So why is he not on the list? He is. He's number eight. Oh, he was? Oh, you did say Drew. He's number eight. What about Troy?

32:05Shannon Sharpe:He has what, four or five, 5 ,000 yards passing seasons? Okay, what happened to Troy Aikman? Yeah, huh? Troy is 19. Oh, God damn, he all the way down. But you got to realize, he just handed the ball off to the all-time leading rusher in NFL history. Okay. You ain't throwing a whole lot of passes. Okay. They ran the ball early to throw the ball late. So when you're going to try to stop him in on 31 and 32, that's when he's going to hit playmaker. That's when he's going to hit Alvin Harper over the top. Don't get it confused. They were a running team, as were most teams in the 90s. Back then, yeah, absolutely.

32:45Shannon Sharpe:Yes, it wasn't no pass first lead. I mean, that's why you see the guys. And see, I think the thing is, Ocho, what has happened is that you look at a guy's stat, you look at a guy like Troy Aikman's stats, and here is Patrick Mahomes already 100-plus touchdowns in front of him. And so you look at like with that. but no, they didn't throw the ball like we need guys do now. And that's the thing. It's a different era. Hell, look at Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw got four Super Bowl wins. He's a two-time Super Bowl MVP. I think he's a two-time Super Bowl MVP. Yeah, two. Franco won one and Lance won one and they won four.

33:22Shannon Sharpe:So, yeah. And so you look at that. And he's a league MVP. He ain't in the top ten. Johnny Unitas is not in the top ten. Yeah. Otto Graham, Bart Starr.

33:33Chad Johnson:Right. You know what people have to do is they have to remember. One thing we always do is when we compare players, we can't compare errors because the errors most players played in are completely different. They are. They're completely different. So, I mean, listen, everyone on their list, rightfully so, has a right to be there. And depending on who you ask, I don't think the first four, the first four or five, you don't change. now after five everyone can can make their argument for who belongs in after that but if you think

34:05Shannon Sharpe:about in the top 10 only drew breeze is the only one that didn't win a regular season mvp every other quarterback in the top 10 has won at least one regular season mvp obviously tom has three

34:16Chad Johnson:joe has two payton has five huh damn you said payton has five payton has five uh mahomes has

34:24Shannon Sharpe:two. Rodgers has four. Elway has one. Favre has three. I think Steve Young has two. I think. I think. Maybe Dan Marino has one. See how many MVPs Steve has. I think Steve won the MVP in like 92 and 94.

34:51Chad Johnson:That's crazy. I should have won MVP, man. So you, man, look here.

34:59Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Six, I guess the charge, he threw six touchdowns in that game. I don't know, Ocho. It's just hard. It's going to just be hard unless a running back have a historically great season. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not like Saquon. If he'd have broke. Barry? Edie's record.

35:18Chad Johnson:Oh, Eric Dickerson, that's right.

35:19Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Now, with the season that he was having, I think now they're just conditioned like, okay, a running back has a great season. They're going to give him offensive player of the year. I think that's what we are resigned to because if a wide receiver, how do you give it to a wide? Let's just say for the sake of argument, if a wide receiver has 2 ,000 yards receiving, how many yards do you think his quarterback going to pass for? How many touchdowns does his quarterback going to have? Yeah.

35:45Chad Johnson:You know what's funny? I hate that it's like that. obviously when when when players especially a running back or a receiver if they happen to have an outer body experience yes outlier season yeah and and create history i think the rules at some point should because they play a dependent position it should go to that to say a player whether it be the running back especially breaking ed's record or receiver doing something that's never been done before they should win mvp and it's going to be a while i believe the offensive player of the year

36:16Shannon Sharpe:should automatically go to a wide receiver or a running back. Right. Because you're not going to give them the MVP. Because if you think about it, Ocho, think about it. Chase was the triple crown. He didn't win offensive player of the year. JSN come behind him, lead the league in receiver yards, and he get it.

36:33Chad Johnson:Chase, like, what the hell? Yeah, that's crazy.

36:37Shannon Sharpe:Smitty didn't win offensive rookie of the year. I mean, offensive player of the year. My brother, when he run the triple crown, didn't. I think Jerry did, though. I think Jerry's a two-time offensive player of the year. that's why, you know, I can make a case that Jerry is the greatest. I mean, you're probably going to say, but I can make a case that Jerry is the greatest NFL player ever. Because what he did and when he did it, and for how long he did it, Ocho, it is crazy.

37:08Chad Johnson:Consistency, yeah.

37:09Shannon Sharpe:A 40-year-old receiver should not have 1 ,200 receiving yards. as a matter of fact Brady got like the third most receiving the third most receiving yard by a 40 year old old Joe

37:21Chad Johnson:that's crazy

37:23Shannon Sharpe:but look when it's all said and done there are probably some guys today they're on this list that's going to be able to move up could Patrick Mahomes move up a couple of spots I don't think there's anybody that's going to overtake Brady you would have to play a very long time even if you didn't play a long time but Ocho just you know think about Ocho you played 10 years 11 years and never went to the Super Bowl well you did go my bad in Cincinnati but you know how hard it is to get there think about it Brady was going damn near every other year

38:02Chad Johnson:that's crazy he went 10 times I think a lot of people are spoiled too I think a lot of people are spoiled with the success that the Patriots had in that 20-year span with Belichick and Tom Brady and thinking that it's very easy to go. Yes. I don't think they understand that relationship, that maturation, and the geniusness of Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft, allowing Bill to construct that team and pick and choose what players to have. And once you have someone like Tom as your foundation, as your centerpiece, it's so easy to build around someone like that. That's as great as he is.

38:38Shannon Sharpe:it is the Ocho but the thing is Ocho but I be wanting to get some credit and y 'all don't be really giving me no credit and I'm the one that's cutting the checks all y 'all talk about is Tom and Bill what about me yeah

39:00Shannon Sharpe:and Mr. Krause said I'm gonna keep this thing going I ain't saying nothing I'm gonna keep my yeah y 'all figure it out He understood. He understood the assignment. Yeah. But like I said, I mean, you look at this, I mean, it's a – I mean, and the thing – I look and I played in the era with all these guys with the exception of Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes. I played against Brady, Montana, Manning, L. I played with L. Obviously, Favre got drafted in the year after I did. Breeze was the quarterback at the Chargers. Yeah.

39:35Chad Johnson:He got benched for Doug Flutie. Doug Flutie, I remember that. What year was Dan Fouts and the Dan Correale? How do you say it? Eric Correale? Yeah, what year was that? That was 83.

39:53Shannon Sharpe:Are you talking about when they went to Cincinnati and they ended up losing?

39:57Chad Johnson:That might have been 80, Ocho. Okay, but I'm just saying, those are one of the few teams back then during the running era that actually threw the ball all the time. Yes, yes.

40:04Shannon Sharpe:Yes, and then you had

40:11Shannon Sharpe:he was the coordinator, he was the head coach of the Rams and Seattle.

40:25Shannon Sharpe:I forget his name. Chuck, what's his name? See, in the early 80s, the Seahawks in the 80s. But yeah, I feel very fortunate. I played the greatest. I played with the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history. Man.

40:54Shannon Sharpe:Danny, Steve, Brett, John, Manning, Montana, and Brady. Chuck Knox, because they called him Ground Chuck because all he did was run the air out of the ball.

41:10Shannon Sharpe:So, yeah, but that was – oh, when Eric Correale, when they had Big Kellen, Kellen Winslow, they had John Jefferson, they had Charlie Joyner, they had Wes Chandler.

41:23Shannon Sharpe:They had Lionel Lutrain James. they had another dude that ended up Matthews from Arkansas I forget his first name but they had some teams but the thing is Ocho you know the one weather team you send their ass up to the cold and it's going to play out time

41:45Chad Johnson:different ball game it becomes a completely different ball game

41:52Shannon Sharpe:but like I said obviously Honestly, you got guys, I think, I'm sure Joe Burrow and Lamar and all these quarterbacks that are low. When it's all said and done, they take this thing in another 10 years, they're going to be up a little higher. It's going to be different, yeah. Matthew Stafford, definitely. At the rate he's going, it seems like he got two, three more great years. And him, let alone, oh, Chuck Muncy. Chuck Muncy had the goggles on. You remember Chuck Muncy? No. He ended up getting traded. I think he ended up getting traded to New Orleans. But they had a squad, Ocho. They had a squad.

42:30Shannon Sharpe:Troy Aikman's number 19. Matthew Stafford is already number 20, Ocho. Yeah. Carson Palmer, 56. Joe Burrow, 66.

42:43Chad Johnson:That's a nice little listener.

42:45Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. But it was, look, I think the thing is, it's always somebody's like, well, somebody should be up here higher and somebody should be up here lower. But it's clear. There have been guys, like I said, I mean, most of these guys are, with the exception of Breeze, has won, I think Breeze has been offensive player of the year a couple of times. What you call him? Where's Kurt Warner? Kurt, the two-time league MVP, a Super Bowl MVP. Okay. an undrafted free agent too yep

43:36Shannon Sharpe:I can see why Big Ben went to three Super Bowls won two was never a Super Bowl MVP never was a league MVP I don't know if he's ever been a first or second team all pro. Damn. But sometimes when you play in an era, guess what? He's smack dab in the middle of Brady and Manning and Breeze. I mean, where you going? If you're a first team all pro with those guys, you tip your ass, you've done something. Yeah. You've done something, Ocho, because, I mean, think about it. You talk about, I mean, how many touchdowns? I mean, all those guys. Hell, Brady probably got 600 touchdowns. Manning's over 500 touchdowns.

44:29Shannon Sharpe:Breeze is over 500 touchdowns. Think about it. That's crazy. Yeah, you got damn near 1 ,700 passing touchdowns. Damn near, Brady got a damn near 80 ,000 passing yards or more. So you talk about over 200K passing yards. so if you're in that era

44:49Chad Johnson:it's going to be hard it would have been hard and it was difficult I mean listen Ben had some success obviously going to three Super Bowls and winning two had some great teams around him had some hell of a defenses yes hell to deal with boy all the day them defenses back then was hell to deal with so

45:08Shannon Sharpe:like I said you can see Rod Rodgers Rodgers has four regular season MVPs a Super Bowl MVP over 60 ,000 passing yards one of the best touchdown to interception ratios in NFL history. Got no problem with that. You can see why he's a – I don't know. He might – could he have been four if he went to and got more Super Bowl? Yeah, probably. But for Mahomes to be inside of 10 years and already in the top five quarterback, Ocho, that just goes to show you just how great he actually is. Not was, is. Yeah, amazing. Ocho, seems to be like Aaron Rodgers is returning for one more season and it appears increasingly likely per Tom Pelissero.

45:50Shannon Sharpe:The odds are rising that he comes back. I don't see it being any other plays. If he's going to play, I believe it's going to be for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ocho?

46:02Chad Johnson:Yeah.

46:04Shannon Sharpe:New head coach, Camille Yerdy, Mike McCarthy. will this even if he comes back are the steelers legitimate contenders for the super bowl next

46:17Chad Johnson:season i mean i wouldn't say legitimate contenders i mean they're legitimate you know contenders to i mean in the afc you know depending on what afc north afc north a um but they they still they still got a long way to go they got to work on that defense too huh as great as the players as great as the names are you know that they had on that defense they didn't play like it huh No. They didn't play like it. They need another weapon to go alongside D.K. Metcalf. They do. They need another. I'm talking about a reliable option to go along D.K. Metcalf. He can't do it by himself. Obviously, as great as Aaron Rodgers was, he is not the Aaron Rodgers of old, but he needs players around him to elevate his level of play.

46:57Chad Johnson:So he doesn't have to wait. Wait. He doesn't have to take the burden of the shoulders in having to elevate the players around him because he's not the same. He's not the young Aaron Rozevold, and it would be great if they get a better supporting cast around him. I mean, running game is decent. Get you one solid receiver, just one more receiver that you can count on, that you can be blindfolded, you can hike the ball, and you know exactly where you're going to be, and you know it's going to be open for you every single time. You mean shoulder to bird? They need it bad, boy. Huh? You mean shoulder to bird?

47:28Chad Johnson:Yeah, shoulder to bird. Shoulder to bird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't had to use that in so long. You got it.

47:34Shannon Sharpe:I was like, hold on.

47:35Chad Johnson:bird in the shoulder. What'd I say?

47:38Shannon Sharpe:You said bird in the shoulder.

47:39Chad Johnson:I said it backwards? My bad.

47:42Shannon Sharpe:But you know what, Ocho? You Ocho. We already know what you meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

47:46Chad Johnson:I appreciate that.

47:47Shannon Sharpe:I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah, I agree, Ocho. I agree. I mean, because, you know, look. I don't think, I don't think. Look, it's going to be very interesting to see the Patriots. Can they replicate? Because they won the division, you'll have a more difficult schedule. you'll play division winners and you play a different conference this year. Buffalo, what do they do? The Broncos, what do they do? The Texans, what do they do? All those teams, you know, the Texans, that defense, I don't see that defense dropping off. Hell no. Maybe, Ocho, they go get a protector. Okay. Because I don't really see, I don't think they need a whole lot.

48:33Chad Johnson:Mm-mm.

48:34Shannon Sharpe:I don't think they need a whole lot because they got guys that can go get after the quarterback. The secondary. That secondary is top tier. Phenomenal. Yes, yes. Oh, yes.

48:45Chad Johnson:Yeah. Tankdale coming back.

48:47Shannon Sharpe:Yes. You know, they got a couple of receivers that played really well in the absence of Tankdale. Mm-hmm.

48:57Shannon Sharpe:I wouldn't be opposed if they went and got a tight end. I like Dalton Schultz, but if I can find somebody that, look, we saw the tight end, the benefit that it brought Chicago. We saw what it did for Warren and Indy. We saw Kyle Pitts Jr. when they gave him opportunities, how the offense flows when they get the tight end involved. Right.

49:30Shannon Sharpe:And so I agree with you. I'm not like, oh, yeah, Aaron Rodgers come back and now they got McCarthy and they're going to be favorites. No.

49:39Chad Johnson:No. But what it does do, it gives you a chance. It gives you a chance to compete. Because if Aaron Rodgers doesn't come back, oh, my goodness, it's going to get ugly. It's going to be nasty. Mm-hmm.

49:54Shannon Sharpe:Sean Mannion replaced Kevin Petula as the Eagles OC. And Saquon said he loved the challenge of putting yourself in a new system. And that's what he knows. This is what sets us apart from everyone else that he's played for so far. Saquon said, I'm super excited about it. I'm going on year nine, which is crazy to say. I've had a lot of different coaches and head coaches and been a part of a lot of systems. I don't think I really came across a system like this. For me, it's refreshing. You get something new. you get to learn something new I ain't gonna lie to you Ocho I ain't like learning a new system because you gotta think because while you learn it Ocho you out there like damn I look like take it off yeah

50:39Chad Johnson:go ahead what you thinking the best part of being in the system and having continuity of knowing exactly what to do and being able to play the game really fast and not having to think you know it is a great thing Obviously, you have the off-season program. You get to get in your playbook. And by the time you get to the season, you'll be familiar with the new system. But just having the old one and knowing everything from front to back, it pays dividends. It pays dividends where you can just go play. All you have to do is just read and react. Read and react. It's a great thing. Doesn't it feel good if you don't have to take your playbook home?

51:18Chad Johnson:Listen.

51:19Shannon Sharpe:Man, I have some sick and taking that playbook home my first two years, Ocho. Damn. I'm like, man, only the best part about it, I'm home by myself. It's kind of like when I went back to school to finish up my degree, Ocho, and I'm sitting in class, and I ain't much old. Ocho, I'm 22. Right. I just turned 22, so I graduated before my 23rd birthday. And I'm sitting up in class, I'm like, damn. I feel old. even though I'm only 23 Ocho but I think my mindset I'm like man I'm in the NFL I should be in here but I was like man I am not a I'm 20 hours short of a degree right man I'm finna get this I'm finna get this hey Ocho I'm finna get this degree right oh hell yeah but uh and it's like just a study man I just and once I get it I'm good

52:15Chad Johnson:I'm good

52:17Shannon Sharpe:but you know some people say it's like that so you know some people you know it's refreshing to them and you hear St. Kwan U's it's refreshing to learn a new system and to be you know all of a sudden you know it's just not second nature to you right

52:35Shannon Sharpe:you think you have a bounce back season

52:37Chad Johnson:it depends if that offensive line stays healthy it all depends on Lane Johnson and Dickerson Yeah, if everybody comes back healthy and they're fine, I think he can have a bounce-back season. In year nine, I don't see SACOR slowing down at all. Anytime soon, barring injury, if he can stay healthy and that offensive line stay healthy, hell, I can see them back exactly where they need to be, and that's competing for a championship.

53:04Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is that everything is really contingent. But this offense, they made a concerted effort. Saquon Barkley, y 'all are not going to beat us running this damn football. That's not going to happen. Right. So if you're going to beat us, your quarterback, he's going to have to beat us throwing the football. Saquon is not going to do what he did last year. It's not going to happen. I'm sorry, Eagles. And it definitely hurt that Lane got hurt. Dickinson was dealing with what he was dealing with all year long. I think he had surgery right before the season. The center had surgery, if I'm not mistaken, in the offseason.

53:45Shannon Sharpe:So now, instead of rehabbing, he'll get to train. Hopefully, Dickinson will be fully healthy. He'll get to train. Lane is coming off an injury, so he had that. I don't know if he had. Did he have surgery for his legs, Frank? Because I know he had a legs, Frank. I don't know if he had surgery or he let it heal on his own. So hopefully, and when, look, he's just one of the best. offensive linemen in all of football, regardless of position. Right. And with that being said, if they go back to being dominant, it makes everybody's jobs on the offensive side of football easier. Easy. But we still, we got to see how this thing plays out in free agency because we're going to see, is A.J.

54:24Shannon Sharpe:still there or are they moving on? We're going to know Ochoa in the first week of free agency.

54:30Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah, absolutely. Hold on, hold on. When is free agency? April?

54:33Shannon Sharpe:No, hell no.

54:35Chad Johnson:What? It's March. Oh, it's early.

54:38Shannon Sharpe:The draft is in – no, you got to – it's about two weeks.

54:41Chad Johnson:Oh, hey, it's going to get interesting. The draft is in April. Hey, it's going to get interesting. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

54:49Shannon Sharpe:And so we'll find – you know, we'll find out if Max Crosby, is he going or is he staying? Uh-huh. He didn't have surgery? Okay. And so – yeah yeah yeah I saw that Dickson is also I saw both of them you know I saw that post both of them also when is the free agency start

55:20Shannon Sharpe:oh yeah yeah

55:26Shannon Sharpe:March 11th okay see hey Hey, hell, it's the 22nd. Boy, you two, boy, you two. You basically, you basically.

55:38Chad Johnson:Wait, it's the 22nd. It's the 22nd already?

55:41Shannon Sharpe:22nd of Feb. You know, it's the shortest month.

55:44Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, boy, 2026 going by fast.

55:48Shannon Sharpe:Can we add some more days to February?

55:50Chad Johnson:Oh, nah, nah, nah. Why not?

55:52Shannon Sharpe:They do with everything else. I mean, they done move spring forward and fall back. They done let that thing come so quick.

55:58Chad Johnson:Yeah.

55:59Shannon Sharpe:I mean it used to be you fall back I mean now they springing forward Damn damn February It used to be I think it used to be in April Damn around Easter time

56:12Chad Johnson:Damn man Hey buddy you're going by fast We already going into March

56:17Shannon Sharpe:I just told my sister and I just had this conversation I said we about to be three months into 26

56:22Chad Johnson:Already It feel like the ball dropped two weeks ago damn

56:32Shannon Sharpe:and your boy about to be 40 about to be 48 again okay okay wait when your birthday june 26th well what we doing

56:45you know we can have a nice little huh well ain't no telling you want to have a look we

56:50Shannon Sharpe:can have a little party or something hey i would tell you that like my grandpa you say whatever the Lord see fit.

57:03Hey, I like that.

57:06Shannon Sharpe:I like that. Yeah, whatever the Lord see fit. Yes, sir. I'm not a big party at all, Joe.

57:13Chad Johnson:Oh, shit, me neither. I haven't had a party for my birthday yet. I love, I say a prayer at 1159. Hold on. Somebody say, hold on.

57:20Shannon Sharpe:They say we spring forward in March? i know damn well we about to spring forward already we just fell back

57:27Chad Johnson:a month two months ago hello what you mean i'm you i'm confused what that means you set the clocks up okay so that mean we lose an hour of sleep yes okay we just fell back two months ago what the hell it's crazy how that worked there huh man spring forward used to be out for easter

57:47Shannon Sharpe:pretty soon they gonna have easter i mean it's you'd be like the third weekend in april they They got Easter on the first weekend, the second weekend. Pretty soon, they're going to have Easter. They're going to have St. Paddy's Day, and then a week later have Easter.

57:58Chad Johnson:Yeah.

57:59Shannon Sharpe:Damn.

58:06Shannon Sharpe:Man. But the Eagles, look, the one thing you can't count the Eagles out. No. Because the one thing that we know about Jeffrey Lourdes, that he gives Howie Roseman a lot of control. And Howie has done a great job of assembling this team. He knows when to bring pieces in. He knows when to get off pieces.

58:25Chad Johnson:Mm-hmm.

58:26Shannon Sharpe:And. Damn.

58:33Chad Johnson:Where's your birthday? Mine? Yeah. My birthday was January 9th, huh? What you do? Shoot. Say a prayer, have a cigar, and get some coffee. I don't celebrate my birthday like that. I'm not. It's so funny. is I see a lot of people when it comes to their birthdays, they don't play about their birthday, Unk. They have parties and do all this, you know, extravagant stuff. Unk, I don't want to be bothered. I don't want a bunch of people get me a cigar, get me some coffee. I say my prayer and I'm good. And I just have a regular day.

59:05Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Yeah, well, I'm thinking about having something if I get 5 ,900, Chad. I might throw myself, I can throw myself a nice little hood party for 5 ,900.

59:14Chad Johnson:Hey, Unk, we've been doing good now. We've been doing good. Now you back to bringing it up. Come on now.

59:18Shannon Sharpe:We'd be doing a lot better if you give me my$5 ,900. I thought not. Chad, y 'all know I could have a nice little hood party. $5 ,900? A hood party? Yeah, man. A little hood party. Man, I got a homeboy to get some T-bones. He get T-bones for like$1 ,199.

59:34Chad Johnson:$1 ,199? Yeah. Man, I got a homeboy named Troy out to sit and get you T-bones for$5. What? $5. T-bones,$5. And hold on. And I got a homegirl right I got my homegirl right Nobody know about her They call her Blue They call her Blue Shot She can get you waggle meat For the load About a pound Yeah I don't know how they get it But they can get it

1:00:02Shannon Sharpe:Yeah yeah I mean little T-Bone My homeboy My executive chef Right Hook him up Hold on you got a chef That's what I call him That's my homeboy we graduated together okay okay okay he'd be on the grill he'd be on the grill yeah and you know how to grill and he go down there hook him up i get like a i get like a hundred hey i said i give him cash money yeah give him a thousand dollars he come back with a hundred steak just like damn yeah have a thing all marinated and everything hey you know how to grill huh

1:00:37Chad Johnson:no yeah okay yeah i don't i don't play with that grill either boy crab claw get the get the molest and crank uh uh king crabs king crab yeah yeah yeah yeah to come down there from joe's yeah

1:00:49Shannon Sharpe:what you know about i get like a i get like a hundred pounds what you know about what you know about joe's like 50 like they probably about what the crab i get like i get a hundred pounds for

1:01:00Chad Johnson:like two grand two grand yeah oh man i got a homeboy man who dog he got a boat he get lobsters You ain't got to pay no two grand for 100 pounds. No, I don't need no lobster. I'm just saying in general, I got a dude and get you 100 pounds for$200.

1:01:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Hey, anything you need, listen, you need to come to me. The crab that you're getting probably got tags on them, so we going to jail. Sooner, we ain't going to jail.

1:01:27Chad Johnson:Hey, man, I got people out the city, man. They get anything you need. I'm telling you, I don't like to call them boosters. I don't like to say, I just, people that are advanced, they are advanced at what they do.

1:01:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, but you know what? I used to get a lot of that stuff, you know, going to the barbershop and going around that area. Yeah. Now you're talking. They don't shut them down. I don't know what happened. Because not the thing, dude, hey, man, hey, hey, Sean, I got a pressure washer. Do I look like I'm on a pressure washer serving? What the hell I need a pressure washer for? He got a pressure washer. He got a weed eater. He got a chainsaw. He got a cologne. Hey, you know this cologne right here? Man, I don't need no damn cologne, man.

1:02:18Chad Johnson:Listen, anything you need and don't want to pay full price or you want to cut a corner or two, I got somebody for it. I don't take advantage of it often, but I'm just saying in emergency situations, when need be, I have somebody, hey, boy, I need this.

1:02:35Shannon Sharpe:You know what I be saying, Ochoa? I saw this guy on TikTok and then you could buy a half a cow and you could buy a whole cow and then he tell you what all you get when you buy the half or the whole. I was like, you know what? I should buy a cow.

1:02:52Chad Johnson:A cow?

1:02:54Shannon Sharpe:It's already cut up. So you have this many T-bones, this many ribby, you have this many ribs, you have this many, yeah!

1:03:01Chad Johnson:You gotta have a big freezer for all that, huh? Multiple freezers.

1:03:07Shannon Sharpe:400 pounds of meat ash

1:03:16Shannon Sharpe:hey that'll last you a long time too now yeah if you a bodybuilder or you feeding the family hey I be seeing this lady she be cooking for her 10-12 kids she go through like 3 dozen eggs a day a day yeah man how many when you feeding 12, 14 people I mean if you make it if you think about it if you make a sandwich how many loaves of bread come in a loaf? 20? Okay. So if you got 10 kids you got 12 kids one loaf of bread gone Ocho that's if you only give them one sandwich a day.

1:03:58Chad Johnson:Yeah you right. You know what obviously I got eight and I would love to experience that every day, what it's like to have the kids every day, what it costs. I think I'm going to go file custody for all my kids. I don't. I think that's an experience that I need to have instead of, you know, when I'm working and they gone and I'm back home, then they come. I just need my kids. You gone too long? You gone too much? I know. I know. I know. So how the hell you gonna get them?

1:04:35Shannon Sharpe:They gonna watch themselves?

1:04:36Chad Johnson:Nah, I'm gonna have a tutor. You might as well leave them where they are. Nah. I just think they wanna be here. I talk to them. You know, FaceTime can have up to like six people.

1:04:50Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:04:51Chad Johnson:I had all my girl, all my girl, they called me today. I say, what y 'all think about coming on down here and moving with daddy, man? Everybody French fry like, yay!

1:05:00Shannon Sharpe:She said that for two days.

1:05:03Chad Johnson:and then you're gonna be talking about mommy mommy no no no no the kids love it here the kids love it here with pops man you work too much you gone too much chocho i know i know i mean i told you i have i'm talking about a tutor a babysitter what they got to do well you might believe where they are nah nah nah they they need to they need to be you not there listen you got to understand during football i'm only going six months out of the year so what they do in those six months. In school with the tutor.

1:05:40Chad Johnson:I gotta try that. I gotta try that. I'm gonna see what happens. I just wanna see what happened. I'm gonna take everybody. I already know what's gonna happen. I'm gonna take everybody to court.

1:05:52Shannon Sharpe:You go, you go, you go, you go, call back to bed all day. I got my house back to myself.

1:06:02Shannon Sharpe:that's what you're gonna say I'm just waiting for you to say that that's what you're gonna say yeah I got my house back to myself oh man I know I had it somewhere this lady here

1:06:24Shannon Sharpe:she was making breakfast

1:06:26Chad Johnson:what is on TikTok

1:06:28Shannon Sharpe:yeah

1:06:30Chad Johnson:type in lady making breakfast it'll pop right up

1:06:34Shannon Sharpe:I don't know how it work but you make it I just say TikTok I ain't got TikTok

1:06:42Shannon Sharpe:TikTok you gotta have it right how you seen it if you ain't got TikTok how I get to it I bet I pop it's a TikTok huh huh? Yeah. I got a TikTok? What it do? How I get to it? I just say TikTok? I go to the app library? Oh, I got TikTok.

1:07:12Chad Johnson:Hey, I found it. I found it, Unc. Hold on. Cooking breakfast for nine kids? Yes. You see all the man she cooking? Yeah. You see all them sandwiches? The baby stirring the egg mix? That's one of them. Yep, they making pancakes, right? Man, I didn't even know I had a TikTok.

1:07:36Shannon Sharpe:I got a TikTok, y 'all.

1:07:38Chad Johnson:You heard me, Unc? Huh? Oh, yeah, I see all the eggs now. She made pancakes too, right? Yeah. Yeah, I found it. I found it. Yeah, all you do is type in lady making breakfast for kids and it pop right up.

1:07:52Shannon Sharpe:and I saw this one lady, she had 12 kids with three pregnancies.

1:07:57Chad Johnson:Ooh.

1:07:58Shannon Sharpe:The first pregnancy had five, the next one she had four, and then the next one she had three.

1:08:03Chad Johnson:Hey, I don't know whoever this had, they had their nine kids, they had theirs back-to-back, everybody little.

1:08:08Shannon Sharpe:You gotta have them doorstep-sized. You can't be spacing them out.

1:08:16Chad Johnson:But that's crazy. I got 28 and young as four. What'd you call them?

1:08:23Shannon Sharpe:my guy uh Sean his wife had the baby he told me uh he sent me a let me find it man that joke I said Sean boy you out your damn mind Sean Alexander yeah you know they got they got uh how many he got now he got more than Phillip yeah he say Phillip he say Phillip a quitter he say Phillip don't want no smoke what number Sean on 14 you know one passed away lived for 70 days had 14 but 13 a lot he got them all by I just said it to Ash hey no no no no hell not 13 you don't ever think about getting back in now

1:09:15Chad Johnson:I just like to practice I know but I'm just saying

1:09:18Shannon Sharpe:I don't want to go no touchdown down.

1:09:19Chad Johnson:I know. I understand. But I just get a couple of first downs, you know, turn the ball over. Hey, but think about the joy. Think about the joy it could bring to you each and every day, waking up three in the morning, changing pampers. No, no, no. You don't know what you're missing. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, you don't know what you're missing. I do. Well, I want two more. How many is in that picture?

1:09:49Shannon Sharpe:like 12, 10.

1:09:55Shannon Sharpe:13 is in that picture? Damn. No.

1:10:02Chad Johnson:But I didn't know I had a TikTok, y 'all. I got a TikTok. How you not going to know? You have to download it. No. Jordan downloaded. Okay.

1:10:12Shannon Sharpe:Man, I don't know about no TikTok. I can't get on nothing.

1:10:18Chad Johnson:Facebook hey that'd be dope though now that I think about it what? like we doing a double wedding depending on what Joe say the triple wedding we might well just have another get the kids out the way one more

1:10:34Shannon Sharpe:I damn near 60 what that mean? look at Robert De Niro

1:10:38Chad Johnson:Robert De Niro had one

1:10:41Shannon Sharpe:Al Pacino got on the second one at 83, 84. Well, you don't, ain't no excuses. If Al Pacino could do it, you could do it. One thing you know, you're not making it to the high school graduation.

1:10:57Shannon Sharpe:No, I'm good. Hey, I did the best. Me and the mom did the best we could. Right.

1:11:05Chad Johnson:I'm good. No, I'm good. Well, I'm going to think about it then. Well, you go ahead. Yeah, I'm going to think about some tween. I'm going to practice now.

1:11:13Shannon Sharpe:I get a practice. I'm good at practice. I'm a good practice. Look, we talked about it. Guys that practice very well and come game time.

1:11:23Chad Johnson:I mean, most of the time when you practice, you want the results to show up. What's the point of practicing? You're not getting anything out of it.

1:11:30Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

1:11:42Shannon Sharpe:now i'm good ocho hey look i got grand hey the girls don't have anything don't have any yet so right i'm just gonna i'm just gonna be i'm about i'm just gonna be papa okay all right you know

1:11:53Chad Johnson:but you never you never know you never know there we go that's that's the type of energy i like i like that i like that you never know well you know listen i'm i'm i'm gonna get me some twins so I'm gonna go do FBI.

1:12:08Shannon Sharpe:You mean in vitro? Yeah, I said FBI. No, FBI is Federal Bureau of Investigation. IBF. No, that's irritable bowel syndrome. Nah. You mean IV? In vitro fertilization? Yeah, that's what I just said.

1:12:31Chad Johnson:I said IVF.

1:12:37Shannon Sharpe:yeah that yeah

1:12:42Shannon Sharpe:hey man that's expensive that's expensive man I don't know if she gonna be wanting to do that though hey

1:12:56Chad Johnson:now hold on whoa whoa whoa whoa when you say expensive what we talking about what kind of number she gotta take

1:13:02Shannon Sharpe:she gotta take shots every day

1:13:07Chad Johnson:I don't understand

1:13:09Shannon Sharpe:it's like you taking insulin it's an injection I thought

1:13:16Chad Johnson:they just take the turkey basting and purposely put the eggs, fertilize the eggs themselves I could have swore that's what happened I thought you don't get me the line I don't know. I don't know much about... I thought they...

1:13:44Shannon Sharpe:In vitro fertilization, which is IVF, is an assistive reproductive technology that involves stimulating the ovaries, retrieving eggs, and fertilizing them with sperm in a lab for two to six days before transferring the resulting embryos back into the uterus.

1:14:03Chad Johnson:Ah, see, see? So you can have twins. I want twins.

1:14:07Shannon Sharpe:You have to stimulate the ovaries because that's what women do when they want to free the eggs. They take these shots, stimulate, then they harvest the eggs. So she's going to have to take shots, stimulate the ovaries, they retrieve them, implant your sperm, and then put them back in there.

1:14:23Chad Johnson:Okay, I like that. I just don't understand the part of having to take the shot. I mean, we could stimulate the eggs without having to take the shot. No, you can't. Listen, that is out of my expertise. I just know I want twins. Now, whatever entails in getting me to get twins, that's it. How much it costs?

1:14:41Shannon Sharpe:I'm telling you the process because I know people that have gone through it.

1:14:46Chad Johnson:Oh, you do? So how much are we talking? Now, if it's too steep, I can't do it. It's steep. You ain't say the numbers yet.

1:14:55Shannon Sharpe:Ash putting it up on my board. I want to make sure I speak correctly. Hold on. Let me say a prayer first.

1:15:05Chad Johnson:I just want to be affordable.

1:15:18Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, well, one cycle is between 15 and 30. Most people need multiple cycles. So you're looking at it could be upwards of 60 ,000. don't worry about it don't worry about it don't worry about it next segment i just say it yeah and and it's not it's not covered under insurance

1:15:40Chad Johnson:yeah that's where they get you yeah that don't don't worry about it because they think they're sleek they think they think they slick they'll try to take me on on two or three cycles Talk about it ain't worked the first two times

1:15:54Shannon Sharpe:Hey Hey you know Oh you know If you working on Joe You ain't gonna need all that

1:16:05Chad Johnson:Yeah man listen God don't work like that If I'm trying to hit the corner pocket And get twins right away That's one thing you can't Do that on your own That's a blessing

1:16:18Shannon Sharpe:but here's the thing uh uh i think if i'm not mistaken i was reading that the older the older

1:16:23Chad Johnson:the more likely is that a woman have twins shut up for real i think so what book was that you know

1:16:31Shannon Sharpe:i read that in cosmo

1:16:36Shannon Sharpe:do cosmo still come out or they just don't lie that'll be in cosmo all the time i be standing in line I was like you know what I done read I done let me go ahead and buy this but look at it hey I was like you know I put it back on the shelf cause you know they got the magazine where you check it out right there cause they know give something to read he waiting in line and you know just go ahead and put that down there nah if they see me I'm like pretend like I'm looking for the DuPont registry

1:17:21Shannon Sharpe:but look that up I think it is the older the woman gets the more likely she is to have twins

1:17:34see

1:17:41Chad Johnson:what did he say yeah huh yeah that's true

1:17:48Shannon Sharpe:and then you and then she taking iv

1:17:53Chad Johnson:boy i like that hey that's right i go put multiple eggs in it and then they get fertilized

1:17:58Shannon Sharpe:then you can say okay do you want it could be one could be two three four five no no no just two just two okay yeah just two

1:18:10Chad Johnson:that's it why you laughing what happened what you laughing at

1:18:16Shannon Sharpe:the information did not know that i ain't got no business no way i just sitting here shaking her head like how the hell did you know this

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