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29:26It's my second time trying. It's my first time here. Please, sir.

29:35Shannon Sharpe:I'm doing one, that's it. I'm doing one. I'm doing one. One more, please. Use the same pen. I said one, motherfucker. You understand English. That's one. That's it. That's it. I'm done. Thank you, Mr. Barclay. Oh, my God.

29:59Shannon Sharpe:I don't have no problem with what Chuck said. It's a problem, Mocho. It's a problem. Because you go somewhere, when I was at CBS or when I worked at Fox or when I worked at ESPN, people are outside with jerseys and glossy photos and blanks wanting you to sign a blank so they can run it off and just print as many as Shannon Sharp, 84 and they won't no if you want to put a dinner napkin on the internet and try to sell that but if anybody going to be making money on my signature yeah I get it I'm going to an authorized signing right I mean people don't get that bro they're not valuing that they want you to sign that so they can go make money I don't know why people don't understand that they're not fans they're sellers that's not a small that's not a dad and his kid that's not a mom and her son that's not a family they got glossy ass photos the same photos with the same nfl labeling on it that i sign when i go to a signing yeah the same jerseys they come up there with blank 84s and expect me to sign it you know what i i understand you know where chug is coming from i also understand where you're coming from but but to me the market is the market based on who you are you got that yellow jacket you hear me so your marketing and your value when it comes to signing cards whether it's privately or with a company your market value is what it is no matter what charles barkley market value when it comes to signing whether he signs all of them or doesn't sign any of them his market value is still what it is and he commands the dollar that he commands regardless so that's why when to come to signing autographs, I sign them all.

31:46I sign them all, or as many as I can. You saturate the market. You lower the value. No, the value is already set.

31:53Shannon Sharpe:You can't lower the value based on what you do. No, it's not. No, it is. Your value, Ocho, your value would be higher if you didn't sign everything. Why you think Tom Brady, why you think these guys don't sign? Wait a minute. They do sign. What do you mean? They don't sign. No, they don't. They don't sign cards. they got a jordan got it i mean jordan can't sign a lot of these guys can't sign cards because they've signed oh yeah yeah okay their value is already set they're back again i just said you're back you have a gold jacket you are shannon you are shannon yes sharp i don't care if you went out there and signed 100 cards your value is what it is based on what you've already done you've already done it you've already put the work in but the value remains high because i don't sign there's not there's not an influx out there i signed every three five years if i signed if i signed every card so what's the value all you're doing is lowering the value you're not understanding your value is based on what you've done not because of the influx of your product out there ocho who wants to buy a card that everybody can get their hands on who wants to buy a jersey no you don't oh i got i got a question i got it okay you know what i was i was gonna go somewhere else with that i'm not gonna go there i'm not gonna go there yeah there's a reason there's a reason why a 101 a one of 25 a one of 50 there's a reason why that costs more why does that cost more ocho because there's only 50 there's only 25 there's only five there's only 10.

33:28Shannon Sharpe:It's simple mathematics. No, no, no. Listen, you're not understanding who you are. And I got to sit here and break it down to you who you are. You're a Super Bowl winning champion. Three times Super Bowl champion. Hall of Fame player. 260 motherfucking seven. Your value, your market value when it comes to signing is what it is no matter what's out there. Because you can command that based on what you've done. Not because there's the influx of your product already out there that's already signed. You're missing the point on who you is. No, I got the point. Let me ask you a question. Is marijuana cheaper now or was it cheaper 30 years ago?

34:08Shannon Sharpe:30 years ago. Why? Because it's accessible now. Everybody can get their hands on it. Thank you very much. Alcohol. Once they made alcohol, they did away with prohibition because guess what? You had to sneak and get it. They charge you whatever you want because you didn't have access to get it. That's how it works. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. That same weed used to get way back in the day, right? There weren't too many strands. Now, I don't know about weed, but I know there's multiple strands of weed that you can get. You can get some that's cheap and you can get some that's extremely high.

34:51Shannon Sharpe:So it's the same thing. What if you had that strand that was extremely high way back then? How much would it cost? A brick. How much does a brick cost now compared to back then? A brick back then was about$23. Now it's about$32. And I'm telling you from experience. Well, first of all, a brick. You know what? I'm going to Google this. Hey, I'm telling you now. I used to be. Hey, listen. I don't mean to put my business out there. But when I was 16, 17, you know, I used to be a runner for the Sinaloa Cartel. so I can tell you how much a brick is because I used to have to package everything. Huh? But I'm telling you, I understand what you mean.

35:30I understand what you're saying, but you're not the average player where as if you sign publicly for a few people that is going to change your market value because of what you've already done. Your value is set based on what you did way back yonder. Huh? Listen to me when I tell you. I'm telling you what I know. I ain't telling you what I heard. uh based on the location and supply chain 4 000 on the low to 70 000 it's called supply and demand

36:02Shannon Sharpe:the greater the supply the less the demand the more the demand the greater the price so if there's not 50 000 shannon sharp jerseys if there's not 25 000 helmets if there's not 100 000 cards what does that do to the market oh joe hey hey i i i hear what you're saying but when it when it come to you when it comes to certain individuals in our sport that played our sport that value is not changing when it comes to certain certain individuals special oh i i mean i don't i'm not i'm i'm not here to disclose numbers right i'm i'm not here to do that but When I do a signing, which I just had one in Boston.

36:48I did some at Tom Brady's vault, and I did some with Anthony Munoz and Boomer Sias in Cincinnati, I think maybe two days ago. I ain't got to work the rest of the year. I ain't got to work the rest of the year. And I know your numbers double, triple that.

37:05Shannon Sharpe:I know it does. Yes, but you know what, Ocho? I want it 6X. It ain't good enough to triple.

37:16Shannon Sharpe:that's why i don't go i got a set number now if i'm in that area they say well okay shannon this is what this is okay this is what i normally charge if i'm in that area i'll take that but if i gotta leave i'm not leaving for that number i understand that's how you keep that's how you keep your value because here's the thing what you don't want to have happen man i got ocho to do a card signing for oh no oh them number oh that number don't change that number don't change you hear me i i like i like i like what you said but i i'm i i hate and i just hate telling people no especially when it when i'm when i'm in public and people show up there's somewhere they standing outside standing outside somewhere really long i've always i've always been like that because i understand my market value is what it is so if someone's asking me to do a private signing or public signing based on the market value based on what i've already done it is what it is and it's not changing ocho if somebody came with without with a shot like this oh can you sign this yes but when they come with a helmet and i see they got a bag full of helmets and they got a bag full of balls and they got and they got and they got an album full of cards they're selling that they're not a fan you know what i do do i like that you just said that i say who you wanted to dress to i like that you said that i always say to somebody and i'm not signing i'm not just signing my name it's just going about my business i will address it to you to a family member to your son to your daughter i i do do that but you know i i understand where you're coming from i just think you you're you're under underestimating who you are in that space because i think regardless of what you sign outside of that space when it's time to get paid your value is what it is and ain't nothing changing that nothing no and i'm trying to keep my value it's gonna be high regardless because you that think oh my bad you you you you him i mean it's what it is i'm trying to get you to see it but you're not understanding i meet people in the airport and they sometimes they come on the plane and they they got their ticket you know sometimes flight attendants they don't ran my ticket off could you say i signed it i ain't got no problem with that my son is a fan so far as he you know his name is X, Y, and Z.

39:34Shannon Sharpe:My husband is a fan, X, Y, and Z. My brother, my dad, no problem. Ocho, I see you got 25 helmets. I see you got a sleeve of cards. I see you got a duffel bag of football, and they flat. You're not a fan. You're a seller. I don't know what people don't think about that. It's my uncle, you greedy. I want to know, chat, you provide your services. Let's just say for the sake of argument. somebody comes up to you and they say you know what you a plumber oh you you a plumber oh you they see you driving along hey i got a clog can you come unclog it you're gonna say hell nah doctors don't render their servants for free lawyers don't give out information for free trust me i know about lawyers i had to deal with them a lot over the last year so i don't want to deal with them no more i've dealt with them a lot ain't it's for free them joking and even text messages, calls.

40:31Shannon Sharpe:I don't text nothing. I'll find out sooner later. All that talking every day, Ocho, I talk once a week.

40:49Shannon Sharpe:But I get, but here's the thing, and also the problem, Ocho, he said he was going to sign one. You see, if you don't sign a thousand, you're jerk your asshole yeah now i just signed i just signed 50. i just signed 100. i don't sign 101 shawn sharp yeah i i understand it how do i how how do i win if i sign if i sign 100. it was 101 what's 102. next thing you know if you keep if you go one two one three one four five six seven eight next thing you know you're at 200. what's 201 shannon you're not going to be able to please everybody Ocho and then people they try to get you Ocho going into the signing hey you want to take your ass aside that's all I'm saying when people don't have cards or helmets or things like that Ocho I ain't got no problem I don't because I believe they are sincerely fans when you got flat footballs and you open up a sleeve and you know what I'm talking about.

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45:56Shannon Sharpe:Browns owner Jimmy Haslam walked back his swing and missed comment on Deshaun Watson from last year pointing to his injuries and suspension while expressing optimism about his future. if not it's not for lack of effort okay I mean I don't think anybody in our organization would question his effort his toughness everything he's put into the job the reality is he's had major injuries his shoulder tore his achilles twice so he's been really ravaged by injuries and that along with 11 game suspension kept him from playing Deshaun has a great chance a fresh start with an offensive minded coach who has in the past been able to work with all kinds of different quarterbacks and make them successful.

46:35Shannon Sharpe:So Deshaun has a great chance to do that now. Mary Kay Cabot tweeted, owner Jimmy Haslam believed it's possible for Deshaun Watson to go from swing and miss to a home run if he starts this year. Why is owner Jimmy Haslam doing a complete 180? Because he was a swing and miss. We failed miserably. It set the franchise back. For lack of a better quote, I'm paraphrasing here. To now, he got a chance to start. You know why? Because the money that's on the books still, no matter what. Because the money that's on the books. He understands what he has to pay Deshaun Watson this season. I'm not sure at what point with that contract, because I don't have the numbers in front of me, but he understands based on what he's being played this year, where they can't cut him, he probably might be the starter until the bottom falls out.

47:30I think he does have a good chance. no disrespect I'm just being honest I think he probably will be the starter until the bottom falls out and they have no choice but to push Shadour back in I think when Shadour gets that job back at any point if things don't go right for Deshaun I think he's going to be the starter for the foreseeable future and I think they're just going to part ways with Deshaun after the season that's just how I see it playing out especially I think he's still got another year on the books doesn't he

47:59Shannon Sharpe:or this was the last year

48:07Shannon Sharpe:this is the last year so yeah i told you that's why he's that's why he's saying that he understands that he understands that listen i'm gonna give you one more shot i'm gonna see if you can be the quarterback for us for the future if not try to get something out of mucho huh try to get something out of it absolutely absolutely and and and for the and for for for Deshaun Watson's sake, I'm hoping he does play well. And if not for the Cleveland Browns, maybe to be the starter somewhere else next year. But as far as I can see it, if things don't go well when Deshaun is the quarterback, if he does start as a starting quarterback, I just don't see someone making that much money, being that healthy, and sitting behind someone else.

48:47I don't see that part.

48:49Shannon Sharpe:No, no, no, no, no. I think they give him every opportunity to start. They give him every opportunity to start. I mean, he is a veteran quarterback. He's smart enough. I mean, look, we all believe that Deshaun Watson, his last year in Houston that he started, he was a top five quarterback. I don't think we get any argument. We don't get any pushback. He led the league in passing, took those teams to the playoffs, and no quarterback in the history of the NFL had become available, non-injury, at that age, ever in the history of the NFL. Every quarterback that had become available, Peyton Manning injury Drew Brees injury Tom Brady was in year 20 but I'm talking about you talking about a guy that's 26 years old Ocho just came off just came off no injuries and just come off leading the league in passing those guys don't become available ever ever unless you plan a unless you plan a video game that's it

49:49Shannon Sharpe:that's it and so I agree with you Ocho I think I think the Cleveland Browns give this young man every opportunity to start and to try to like, bro, we spent a quarter of a billy. And basically we got 10, maybe 11 wins out of it. Let's see if we can get a playoff. Let's see if we can get a playoff. We're going to give you one last shot. Just one last shot. And I don't care how well he plays, I don't think he comes back. Hey, listen, they turned the reins over to two. they turned the reins over to two and so I wish that he didn't suffer those injuries I think 11 games Ocho we talked about it you got to play this thing drop back passing and throw him with your quarterback guru whisperer whatever you guys want to call it that's not the same as playing in the NFL because remember Ocho his last year in Houston he didn't play so he didn't play that year he missed the first 11 games he only I think back then they were only playing 16 games so he missed 5 games so he missed 11 games he comes back he hurts his shoulder then he tears his Achilles so really I don't even know if he's played a season since the last season that he actually played in Houston no he hasn't had a full season yet no he might not have had a season if you combine all of them together how many games has he played for Cleveland because remember Ocho he missed the entire season his last year because of everything that was going on so he missed the entire last year

51:41Shannon Sharpe:he's played 19 total games 17 plus 2 So that's what he's played. He's played two games more than a now. So he's played a season and two preseason games, basically. That's it. Basically. Over how many years? Five?

52:03Shannon Sharpe:What was his last year in Houston? His last year in Houston was 2020. So he didn't play in 2020. He played five games in 21. Okay. How many games? Six. Okay. Okay. Okay. Wow.

52:32Shannon Sharpe:And missed all of last year. Yeah. Hey. So 2020 was his last full season. 2021 he didn't play. He played six games. He played six games. He played seven games. He played no games. He's played 19 games in five years. Tell me the player in any sport that can play that's at the top can play 19 games in a five-game stretch and be great. Hey, yes. Huh? Come here. Say hi. Say hi to him. Come on. Say hi. Take your finger out your mouth and say hello. Say hi. Hey, Fridge Fry. Say hi. I can't hear you. You good? Okay, Dad, you got to finish. Give me a kiss. All right. Go. Go upstairs with your sister. Go get some snacks.

53:34Shannon Sharpe:Go get some snacks, Fridge Fry. All right. Close the door.

53:42Yeah, but I got to try to get something, Ocho. I gotta try to get something they definitely gonna get it I'm hoping for his sake I'm hoping he stays healthy and has a good season because even if he has a good season they're not bringing him back I don't think and I think he's auditioning for other teams because they're going to be other teams that might need a starting quarterback or might need a veteran presence to come in

54:05Shannon Sharpe:no not at that price though Joe not at the price not this year no I'm saying no not this year I'm talking about the following year Oh, next year. Okay, moving forward. Moving forward. Okay, okay. I thought you said if he played well in the preseason, maybe trade deadline, you know, in the regular season, trade deadline. Yeah, preseason is going to cut it. They need to see live action in the regular season. Yes. And he said that Jimmy Haslam is not a dummy. And you know when you – You're like, man, you think I finna sit you on the bench and pay you$40 million? Absolutely not. You finna be in there.

54:49Shannon Sharpe:You're going to be in here earning some of it. You might get benched, but you're not finna start on the bench. Now, I mean, look, stranger things have happened. They got a$100 million dead cap here with Tua. They paying them$50 plus million, so they're going to play somewhere else. So stranger things have happened though, Joe. I don't see them. They could. Don't start. Look, they could. Because Aaron Rodgers, they let Aaron Rodgers have a big dead cap hit. We see other players have huge dead cap hits. And it's like, hey, nah, it's just not working. It's not going to work. Ain't no sense in us beating a dead horse.

55:33You know what? That's crazy. When you think about it, it's no telling what they might do. there's no telling because we saw it like you just said we saw it happen to Aaron Rodgers and Chua I mean could it happen I mean it could happen it could happen you know to Sean too but why I forgot about Kirk Cousins why wait till now though why wait till now you could have been cut ties and dealt with the dead cap hit

55:56Shannon Sharpe:could have or moved on they restructured the contract so we'll see wish him the best Meanwhile, Andrew Barry says he'll spend more time with Ty Simpson and is holding realistic that the Browns to add a young QB. Our lean would be if we do add someone to the quarterback room, it would be someone who's younger, a younger player most likely. Anyone that brings in this spot on the roster, our thought is that they're competing, Ocho. They're competing to play. They have something that we like in their skill set, and our expectation would be for them to work harder. Ocho could you see that where are they picking I mean because most drafts have two quarterbacks going to the first round it seems it's him and Mendoza obviously everybody thinks Mendoza is going to the I would hope so wow could you see them taking Ty Simpson at six?

56:55Absolutely not no you have so many other needs

57:00Shannon Sharpe:that need to be oh but they got Jacksonville 24 remember they traded the DB right oh yeah yeah yeah um remember they traded I can't remember his name I forgot his name Newsome Newsome yeah Newsome yep yep yeah I don't see that you have so many other needs that that you need um I mean hello we still need a receiver I'm talking about I'm talking about we excuse me I'm sorry they they need a receiver they need someone need need someone big time they need someone big time and you got Deshaun on the roster you got Shadour on the roster you got dylan gabriel on the roster and you potentially taking absolutely not that makes no that makes no sense if you do that you're telling me you don't believe in any of the quarterbacks that you have on your roster we understand that deshaun is this is a one year this is basically one year this is a one-year deal but you're saying you don't if you if you take another quarterback in the excuse me if you take a quarterback in the first the second round you send the other two quarterbacks hold on and if you take another quarterback that's not going change anything because the quarterback is only as good as the supporting cast and your supporting cast is not up to par to do any goddamn thing anyway and ty simpson no disrespect to him he's not the quarterback don't come in and save your franchise because he's not the type of quarterback that's to come in and elevate everybody around him that's not happened that's not happening what are we talking about

58:23Shannon Sharpe:they look like they don't know what they're talking about look like we kind of know what we talking about. But look, that's what got them in this situation.

58:34Shannon Sharpe:I think the biggest thing is Ocho, they don't, they haven't shown patience. Now, I don't know what it was. Look, I'm not, I'm not there every day for, for whatever reason, for the word was and, and, and, and listen to the Baker talk. They wanted someone more of an adult to lead their franchise. Oh, Baker is who he is. Y 'all got, People got to stop thinking everybody's going to be like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. People got different personalities, and it's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. But at the end of the day, I want a guy to be himself, so that way I'll get the best of himself. You try to make everybody be Tom Brady, everybody be Peyton, everybody just – no, that's not them.

59:24Shannon Sharpe:Not at all. Not at all. And you look at the way these guys dress. You look at the way these guys come to the game. You look at the way these guys are do things in game. It's a different time. Now, Ocho, you got to evolve with the time. This antiquated way of thinking cookie cutter and everybody is the same way. It's not. It's not. It's as much as as much as you want your quarterback, you know, to be a certain way, to conduct himself a certain way. there are very few that total line and being different you know and then just do everything by the book but man baker's one of those he baker's who he is and that's why i think that's why he's having the success that he's having now in tampa but baker he didn't change he wasn't he wasn't a certain way in college and then get to the nfl and change he was the exact same way in If you didn't like his brassiness in college, why the hell you drafted?

1:00:20Shannon Sharpe:He planted the flag. He stood on the sideline and grabbed his crotch. You know, he threw the ball. He hit somebody in the head. Yeah, that's always been him. You knew everything. It's hard for me to imagine, Ocho. You invest that kind of money in somebody, and you don't know everything there is about him. You know his third-grade teacher. You know his seventh-grade math teacher. You know who his PE teacher was. You know his Sunday school teacher. You know everything. You know the first card that he had. You know every damn thing. It's hard for me to believe that you spend$30 million in something and you don't, hey, you spend$30 million in the house.

1:00:56Shannon Sharpe:You got inspectors. You're going to make sure this thing ain't about to fall into the ocean. You got to make sure this thing ain't got no leaks. It ain't got no termites. They ain't had no plumbing. They ain't have no sewer problems or anything. But you know what the problem is, right? They drafted him. They understood all those things. They did their homework, but we're not getting the results we want. So we're going to blame you and the way you conduct yourself, the way you carry yourself as a reason why we're not winning. Because we bring you in. OK, what you do in college, that's all fine and dandy.

1:01:25We like that part. But is it going to help us and result in wins? And it didn't. So what's the first thing they use? They use that as an excuse on why they're not winning. Well, it's because you conduct yourself this way. This is the goddamn problem. But situations matter. and you haven't you had a problem at that same position for a very long time so i i would i would think a hundred years how long basically since basically since auto graham well you had

1:01:52Shannon Sharpe:to you got a couple years of great with with uh bernie kosar they went to the amc championship game unfortunately they lost to denver in denver uh but they haven't they haven't had a quarter i mean a legit quarterback for an extended period of time since auto graham in the 56 yeah i think I think, wait, no. Otto Graham, Bernie Kosar, and if I'm not mistaken, Derrick Anderson had a really, really a year. I think that was what, what's the receiver? Braylon Edwards. Oh, yeah, that Braylon Edwards year. What about the year with, why is it slipping my mind? Oh, you're talking about with Josh Gordon?

1:02:28Oh, my God. I forgot what year that was.

1:02:30Shannon Sharpe:I don't think Derrick Anderson played with Josh Gordon. Hey, Chad, who was the quarterback when Josh Gordon led the league? Led the league in everything. Led the league in yards, led the league in touchdowns. I mean, maybe it was Brandon Whedon one year. Maybe it was Hoyer. Who was the quarterback back then? Boy, he went crazy that year.

1:02:51Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, well, the cardiac Browns, when they had Brian Seif, Brian Seif, I think, won the MVP in like 79. there was no I was on I was on I would do the first take so I did first take like 16 15 16.

1:03:17Shannon Sharpe:I had to be like I think if Brandon Whedon was one year I don't know who the quarterback was but it wouldn't matter but Josh Gordon was catching everything and taking it to the house

1:03:30Shannon Sharpe:Whedon and Jason Campbell. Okay, okay. Remember Jason Campbell from the old Washington team? Yeah. Yeah. Well, they need to go get another receiver like a Josh Gordon. Because I don't give a damn who your quarterback are. Yeah, you can be right back in the same... Those guys aren't good enough outside until right now. You need a dog. You need You need one. Just one good one to go with the rest of the support cast. Yeah, you get one good one and a couple of auxiliaries? Yeah, you're going to be all right. The Browns and Myles Garrett agreed to a modified language in his contract this offseason that makes it easier to trade Garrett.

1:04:14Shannon Sharpe:So what they did, he's supposed to get$29 million to rob the bonus. On March 15th, they pushed it to seven days before the regular season starts. But Andrew Barry says the team will not trade Myles. Miles is a career brown. He's one of the faces of our organization, and I think we've been very clear past and present in terms of our feelings. I understand all the questions, but I'll be honest. I don't really want to waste a ton of more breath on that topic. Yeah. Ocho, what does the modification to his contract where you kick it? I mean, Miles is like, hold on. Y 'all be to tell me y 'all kicked$29 million.

1:04:50Shannon Sharpe:I'll let y 'all kick$29 million down the road. I could have got that marked 15th, But now it's seven days before the regular season. So that's seven. So April, May, June, July, August. So about six months. I let y 'all kick that down the road. One thing they're going to do, they're going to lie to you every time when they get in front of that camera. Uh-uh. They're going to lie to you every time they get in front of that camera. You know exactly why you kicked that money down the road to allow yourself room to be able to trade Garrett to a team that gives him opportunity and a chance to win for a change.

1:05:21Whether he's the face of your franchise or not, whether you want him to be a one jersey team player which he should be but also based on what he's done you should reward him with an opportunity to go somewhere where he can have a chance to win for a change i mean come on now and we we know why you did it i hate listen one thing about them coaches and them owners and them gms when they get in front of their camera they're gonna act like a politician they're gonna tell you everything you want to hear knowing that they're not going

1:05:48Shannon Sharpe:the level and it's not the truth they hit that lie button huh they hit that lie button everything all the time so so why there's no reason to do it just just leave it alone it doesn't change anything it doesn't make the 29 million goes away the only thing is is that that dead cap is not on your space because if you paid that money you got to absorb even though he's somewhere else. Bingo. I mean, here. So now, somebody else will have to pay that. Look. Obviously, he's the best player. You know what? Now that I think about it, Myles Garrett might win. He might do something. Only a handful of defensive players in the top 100.

1:06:35Shannon Sharpe:He might be number one. He should be. He should be. I think, has any defensive player, maybe J.J. Watt? Has J.J. Watt been number one? Aaron Donald been number one? Because normally it's reserved for a quarterback. I think Adrian Peterson won it one year. I think the year that he came back, I think Adrian Peterson might have won it. Tyreek Hill won it one year. That's 1 ,700-yard season. Yeah. Lamar won it a couple of times, if I'm not mistaken. I think my homeboy, Brady's won it the most. Has a defensive player ever won the war? What did J.J. fit in? Okay, yeah. Okay, so they got two. J.J. in 2015, Aaron Donald in 2019.

1:07:27So. Hey, I'm missing. Miles Garrett, either to Philly. Miles Garrett, maybe.

1:07:40Shannon Sharpe:that might be why they hold it. That's why Philly's holding on to AJ Brown. They might know something. We don't know. Yeah. AJ Brown over to a, I just said it. You get you one dog, get you one dog. The Sean Watson, the AJ Brown.

1:07:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Cause I, for me to, for look, as much as I would love to see, uh, miles finish his career. I think he, I want to see him on the biggest stages. I want to see him a chance. I want to see those sacks actually mean something to someone other than himself. Because when you're playing behind and you get 23 sacks and you still win five games. You shouldn't win five games with 23 sacks. Y 'all should be in the playoffs. And just imagine what he could potentially do if his team ever had a league. And the other team has to throw. I mean, the man had five sacks against the Patriots and they got beat by 14.

1:08:36Shannon Sharpe:That doesn't normally happen, Ocho. Yeah, you're right. Because before you know it, the game's out of hand. Now you got to throw the ball. I know you got to throw it. You know you got to throw it.

1:08:51But I just don't know him being there if they're ever going to win

1:08:57Shannon Sharpe:because there are so many holes they need to plug. Well, and honestly, the holes they need to plug on the offensive side. All the holes they need to plug. And listen, you won't be able to place Miles Garrett, But you can get someone that's competent, someone that's not going to get to hell. He's not going to get you 23 goddamn sacks. But you have so many other pieces around you defensively that are just that good. We're missing Myles Garrett. It'll be somewhat of a step back, but you still will be good. You won't be great. Right. You'll still be good. But you need so much offensively. Letting him go and being able to build that offense and help your quarterback situation out is much more important than keeping Miles Garrett and winning another four or five games.

1:09:40Shannon Sharpe:It's a situation, Ocho. The roof is leaking. The sink is clogged. The toilet's overflowing. And the shower doesn't work.

1:09:53Shannon Sharpe:I got to fix the problem. The problem I'm going to fix first? The toilet overflowing. I got to get that out there. I got to get that fixed. And then I work A. I don't want to get rained on. Shower, hey, I go take a shower in the rain. So, but they got so many things going on, Ocho, that Miles can't solve it. They've done a horrible job of putting people on the other side of the ball. You got Denzel. You got Grant Delpit. You got Miles. You done a great job on the defensive side. The linebacker was working the year. Defensive working the year. So you've done a great job with that. How the hell have you missed so bad?

1:10:38Shannon Sharpe:Now, I like Harry Vanity Jr. Hey, he's nice. You got something. I like the running back. Quinn, Quinn, Quinn. Yeah, Juggins. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, you got to get some wide outs. Yeah, one. You need one. And when it happens, I said it first. so when Miles Garrett end up over there in Philly make sure y 'all come back and just replay this he might end up in Dallas

1:11:18you know they're going to want pickings now you got to tell me twice I just said they need a receiver I just didn't want to say no name because everybody get mad at me

1:11:27Shannon Sharpe:they get mad all they want to I don't see them trading them to Dallas without pickings coming. You see that? It's a possibility. No, I'm saying do you see Dallas getting Miles Garrett without giving up pickings? No, no, no, that's not going to happen. Even swap. Even swap, baby. Do me right. Even swap ain't no swindle. Who you telling?

1:11:53Hmm.

1:11:55Shannon Sharpe:Man. I just want Miles the one time to play meaningful football. Yeah. I mean, for the most part, most greats, you know, whether they won or not, they played them. Bruce and Reggie, Time, LT, Ray, Keighley, Patrick Willis, Aaron Donald, JJ, unfortunately, he did not get an opportunity to play at the Super Bowl. but a lot of the great, and that's what you want to see. Now, it doesn't guarantee, it doesn't guarantee you're going to win. But play on that big stage. Play in a championship game where rushes matter. Get three sacks in an AFC or NFC championship game. Be the difference in that game.

1:12:51Shannon Sharpe:Aaron Donald, those defensive player of the year, but go back and cut the tape on in that Super Bowl against Cincinnati and watch how he got down and watch how he took the game over. Especially that goddamn fourth down. All we had to do was just block him on that fourth down. He messed up the goddamn throw. But Ocho, you got to remember, on that third down and one, the guy blocking him and he grabbed the guy with one hand and stopped him from getting the first down. Damn, man. And right before the half, remember, they got that turnover right before the half and he got that sack. I think he might come back this year.

1:13:26What you think?

1:13:28Shannon Sharpe:Hell no. You see the clips of him working out? Yeah. He's working out like he might just come back. Nah, he don't got the passion. He said it. He's like, I don't have a passion. He exhausted everything that he had. I mean, you know, you watching me say, hey, my dad had me getting up early, early in the morning. He said, man, I did. I've seen y 'all saw Pitt and y 'all saw the Rams, but y 'all don't realize I was doing this high school. I don't blame you. At some point in time, I mean, he still loved the game, but the passion to train at the level that he need to, to still be Aaron Donald. He can't go out there and be anything else other than 99.

1:14:15Shannon Sharpe:Anything else will be uncivilized. So that's the thing. I think the thing is, Ocho, that's the biggest thing for the greats. It's not like they don't love the game, but I can't give that same level of intensity and consistency to the game. I could imagine. All I know is 99. With them horns on his helmet. With his ass. Going up and down the line. Damn, that's long. They got the dead boat on there and everything. I couldn't imagine playing D-Taggle, too. You know always having to deal with that goddamn that double team that double team Especially him a you already know you go into the game and we played guys like that Hell I played against Randy.

1:15:06Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Bruce played against DT He not You better find out where you and wherever he's at That's where the double go and the funny thing about it is Aaron Donald was able to dominate for such a long time and he had the highest percentage when it came to being double teamed. That joke was so quick off the ball, man. I told you, Ocho, the first time I saw him, I said, man, that's Aaron Donald. I said, from Pitt? I mean, he was knocking, Ocho, but I'm talking about, you know, I thought I was going to see 6 '4", 275, looking like Miles. Looking like Miles. Now, he's solid now. But I'm like, well, damn.

1:15:46When you see him, he doesn't look. You watch him get off the ball? He quick. Quick. You know, and you think about all the things that make a defensive tackle good. You know, all the different attributes. He was great at every last one of them. Every last box he checked. Whether it was stopping the run, taking on the double team, being able to swim, pushing the pullover, whatever the verbiage is that you use. Oh, man. Yeah, he was good at all of it.

1:16:17Shannon Sharpe:He can rip, he can rip, he can bull you. He can wax on, wax off. Yeah, man. And his footwork. You ever seen his footwork drills? His footwork looks like a goddamn receiver or running back. But, as I told you, listen to him when he was talking to defensive linemen. He said, you play on edges. He said, don't let that man square you up. You get on an edge. You get the shoulder. Half a man. That's it! That's what we talk about on you're never going to put both of your hands in my damn chest. I'm going inside or outside. I'm getting on an edge. Yeah. I promise you that. I'm going to get on an edge.

1:17:00Shannon Sharpe:But he was special. And obviously just watching it from a distance. But he kind of reminds you of a Johnny Randall. Ah, that's a good comparison. Good comparison. Johnny was undersized. You know, Johnny came in as 235-pound defensive tackle. You know how small that is? Especially back then when all the he tackled was big? Yeah.

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