Nightcap Hour 1: De’Aaron Fox's EXCUSE for GAME 1 STINKER + Jaron “Boots” Ennis JOINS Nightcap

15:42Shannon Sharpe:So now you have to manage that. And as Joe says, as the point guard, you have the ball. You have to like, man, this is my time to put my imprint on the game. Nah, hey, let me get Wimby. Nah, hey, take that castle. Hey, Vassell, Champini, like he did last night. You saw him dribble the ball, get to the lane, kick to the left corner, boom, here comes Champini. So that is the job of a point guard. That's why it's rare to see a point guard getting 30 and 40 points a game. That's why 30 and 40 point guards rarely, rarely. Absolutely.

16:17Chad Johnson:Absolutely.

16:18Joe Johnson:But that's because they have no supporting cast around him that can score.

16:24Shannon Sharpe:No, you have to pick. Look, if I'm trying to think, see, with me, I don't really look at Steph as a point because if you look at it, Draymond did more of the initiating of the offense than Steph. He listed as a point guard. Now Shea is a little different. And Luka is one of these guys. He can have got it. He's going to have got it numbers because he's going to go off in the first quarter. He's going to be halfway to 30 in the first quarter. Hold on. Because he's going to get up somewhere between 10 and 15 shots in the first quarter.

16:52Joe Johnson:I got a question, though. Think about this. I know we're in different areas, right? and our team constructed in a certain way where they don't rely on him having to shoot high volumes like he did in Sacramento what happened what happened if you take an AI who is a volume shooter and you put him on the spurs what did he do does he stop shooting ball nah no he won't

17:15Chad Johnson:that's that's it it's gonna be hard to get those young guys to really want to play hard for him Ocho these young these young dudes man listen they ain't finna be playing with nobody taking on them 25, 30 damn shots a night, man.

17:29Shannon Sharpe:They trying to get theirs too. And that's why people killed. They killed. Joe, Rich Paul said the exact same thing, and he got killed. He said, guys, y 'all think these guys just want to play defense and rebound the ball while Jordan scoring 50, while Kobe scoring this? I said, this is a different era now. It is a different era. Everybody ain't that guy. Rich Paul got killed because he said, um.

17:50Joe Johnson:Everybody ain't that guy. They got to understand. You say it all the time, um. Joe, you say it too. there's a pecking order understand the pecking order i mean what are we talking about how many guys think they're not that guy though what's the problem what problem did kaminga have with the warriors he thought he was what i think i'm supposed to be on the same level with steph i think i'm supposed to be taking the same amount of shots of steph right and jordan and jordan pooh

18:20Shannon Sharpe:jordan pooh got up out of there these guys are different now ocho these guys are really really different because they're trying to get to the max contract. Joe, I'm not, Joe, Ocho, you're not going to pay me max dollars scoring six points a game. I'm trying to get, no, I'm trying to get a five-year 240. I'm trying to get a five-year 260, 290. That's what I'm trying to get. Me rebounding the ball while this guy scores 60? Y 'all ain't going to get me that. That's going to get me a mid-level exception. That's going to get me a bet mid-cap.

18:49Chad Johnson:You know, you got a lot of these young dudes, Ocho, in the league, bro they trying to prove themselves you know what i'm saying and the last thing they want bro is to be with a guy who's a volume shooter they doing all the dirty work while you shooting all the damn balls trying to score all the points now they trying to show they got game two bro it it aren't you right it's a new era man these young these young dudes bro they ain't gonna play hard for you man they ain't i'm telling you they ain't gonna play hard for you you coming out here gunning you know it's all about you nah they ain't having that you know what's so funny is you really got

19:22Joe Johnson:to be that guy, Joe. This is my first time ever hearing that. You're like, you really got to be that guy. You know, I mean, you got to be eons and levels above the next person to be able to take those shots and say, you know what? The hell with you. You really not that guy anyway. That's why I've been given the green light to be able to take these shots. Can you imagine somebody getting mad at Shea because he's shooting 26, 23 shots a night?

19:45Shannon Sharpe:No, but here's the thing though, Joe. Guys believe that if you gave them an opportunity to shoot as many times as Shea, they believe they can put them same damn numbers up. That's your problem, bro. See, you look at that shade and say, well, shade gets to shoot the ball X a lot of times. I guarantee you there's a lot of guys on this team. They might not ever say it publicly, but they believe if they got the same opportunity, the same green light to put up 19 to 26 shots a game, they give you those same points.

20:14Chad Johnson:Hey, a lot of cats ain't just going to defer, bro. you ain't gonna find a lot of cats like that you know what I mean especially in this era you know everybody it's a new era

20:29Shannon Sharpe:Joe you're absolutely right it's a new day of time

20:32Chad Johnson:everybody think they got game Ocho

20:33Joe Johnson:they think they serious with it hey Joe it's one thing to think it but it's one thing to do it with them goddamn lights on you're right it's one thing to do it not only with the lights on Uncle Joe do it every single night consistently

20:49Shannon Sharpe:They say, if you cut the lights on and give me 26 shots, I'll show you.

21:01Shannon Sharpe:They say, I want to show you. Ocho, think about the number two receiver. If the number two receiver, you don't think like, man, Ocho catching 12, getting 13, 16 attempts, I'll be targets a game. Give me that. I'm going to go get one. Man, y 'all throwing me five. Y 'all throwing me little five balls. Y 'all throwing Ocho 13. Ocho got 120 yards and two touchdowns. Hey, how was Ocho? Ocho was good. But hell, y 'all give me that. Yeah, I do that too. Ocho, Joe, what was that? Ocho, how many of your homeboys, when you go to everybody, when you know before you got with Cal Bode, before you had a girl, you were in the club, how many of your homeboys thought, man, if I had Ocho money, I had Ocho chain, I was playing in the NFL, I could get him grab him just like I could.

21:46Shannon Sharpe:How many of your homeboys think just like that, Ocho? He already know it. He already know it.

21:52Joe Johnson:Everybody always think like that. Everybody always think like that. It's so funny. It's so funny that I think, I don't mean to go off topic. I think that is important. It comes into play, Joe, based on who you are and what you're able to do.

22:06Chad Johnson:Yeah.

22:09Joe Johnson:But nine times out of ten, why everybody left me is the fact that I don't spend no money, Joe. I don't know about that Joe they get sick of that joke yeah they get sick of that joke I'm tight with it Joe you hear me I'm tight like a virgin but I ain't spending nothing Joe I'm gonna be honest with you I ain't spending no money man

22:29Chad Johnson:at first they think it's cute they roll with it but then I have to wow

22:32Joe Johnson:they think it's a facade they think it's a joke we're two three years in and I ain't doing nothing I ain't budging like this is really me I got the discipline. Okay, I'll find you all. You know, I get to look something here and there, you know, blah, blah, blah. But what you used to seeing on Instagrams and all that stuff.

22:54Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, that's what, but social media is important. That ain't reality. The problem that people have in a relationship. That ain't reality. The problem that people have now in a relationship, Joe, is that they judge their relationship by what they see in other relationships. That is the problem that they have. well man she got a g-wagon she got a porsche she got a lambo he bought her business she got an llc she got a condo you're judging your relationship and that's why you have to be careful because you know therapists can tell you what you should do but what what if what she's telling you what you should do you try to take that to another relationship and that ain't even interesting to her.

23:38Shannon Sharpe:Then what? You do an audience with my therapist said this. My therapist said if I talk to you like that. Boy, if you don't sit your ass down and get out of my face. Right.

23:47Chad Johnson:Worry about the wrong damn thing.

23:50Shannon Sharpe:But that is the problem with a lot of time. It's like that in sports. How many times, Ocho, you done heard guys on the team say, man, if I was over there, man, I killed just like that too. Joe, hey,

24:04Chad Johnson:man, please. Hey, a lot of times in professional sports, and y 'all know this, bro, you have to wait your damn turn. Everybody is not going to be able to come into the NFL, the NBA, any professional league, and just get the ball right away and be able to dominate. There's only a select few who get that opportunity. Some of us are going to have to wait two, three, four years before those opportunities present themselves. So, look, therefore, in between, you got to figure out how to be an asset to a team, bro. You have to figure out your niche. Like I always tell y 'all, they talk about all this ISO, this ISO, that.

24:41Chad Johnson:Man, I was guarding, defending my ass off when I first came into the league, bro. Look, I never wanted Coach to have a reason to take me off the floor. Damn, Joe, we need some defense. Here I am. I can play some damn defense.

24:54Shannon Sharpe:We need some. Hey, Joe, they act like you got that name your rookie year. Oh, hey, I was six, seven years in before they got me, gave me ISO. That's what I'm saying.

25:03Chad Johnson:Man, you know, hey, hey, hey, bro. Listen, you need a defense. You need a big shot. You need to make an assist. Man, I was willing to do anything to stay on the court, bro. And I've been like that, you know, since a kid. I never wanted Coach to have a reason to take me out the game. So I tell all these young cats, bro, who think they're going to come into the league and average 25, man, listen, it may take you a couple years, bro. You need to learn the system first. Learn how to be a pro. Learn how to take care of yourself. You know what I mean?

25:32Joe Johnson:Yes, sir. And you know what's funny, Joe? In the perfect example, Jalen Brunson. Man. The perfect example of Jalen Brunson. Being patient, waiting until he get his time, his turn. I'm not sure how many years it took for him, obviously, to get to the Knicks, and not look at him now. And then you probably got people in the NBA talking about, you know, man, shoot, if I was over there, you know, running a point for the Knicks, I could be in the finals too. Everybody think they better than Jalen Brunson until it's time to be better than Jalen Brunson.

26:04Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Jalen Brunson was a backup until Luka got hurt. And when Luka got hurt, that was his opportunity. And then it was too late because he was so cost-prohibited for Dallas, they didn't have any choice. They couldn't sign him. When you had an opportunity, you just saw him as a backup.

26:27Shannon Sharpe:But Luka gets hurt, and he shows you what he can do. now all of a sudden that little 55 million wasn't going to cut it the niche jumped out there with 120 125 which was double what you were going to offer it's too late it's too late and it's the same thing sometime in a relationship you got this guy he ain't doing too much man he ain't doing nothing somebody out there got a little flashier got a little bit more and now the guy bill the guy in college he might be a little overweight you know you get the lineman the d lineman ain't nobody really trying to holler at them like that. They want the quarterback, wide receiver, running back, DBs.

27:06Shannon Sharpe:They want the flashy position. Well, when that guy grow up and then he gets somebody that you like, why he with her? Because she paid him attention when he didn't have an issue.

27:15Chad Johnson:Absolutely. That's how it go.

27:19Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all know y 'all do the same thing. The captain of the team, the big time guy, when he didn't pay you no attention, now all of a sudden you go off and come back and you find you a Merlot or a Bordeaux or a Petrus? Yeah. One of them five, ten, fifteen thousand dollar bottle of wine, he's trying to get at you and you hide them in Poland. Now he's like, nah, remember when I had the horned glasses? Come on, Nats. Remember when I wasn't, I wasn't, I had the skirt, the Poland.

27:52Joe Johnson:Come on, Nats.

27:53Shannon Sharpe:It ain't got to be Sunday to preach. Hey. And that's then that's how it is. But these guys got to understand, and I'm glad I understood, and I think it happened to do – had to do because, like you said, Joe, I had to get on the field. I wasn't going to get on the field, and they're going to throw me five, six, seven passes game. I wasn't going to get on the field because I had to block. And, okay, block. I got to block, go block Ronnie Lott. I got to go block David Fulcher. I got to block David Anderson. I've got to be able to block these guys, and I got to say, man, we got to find a way to keep sharp on the field.

28:23Chad Johnson:There you go.

28:24Shannon Sharpe:We got to keep him out there. He ain't afraid. Hey, we know he'll play special teams. Hey, we'll play. Every five, six, seven good blocks I make, we'll throw him a pass. It might not be but a damn shuffle pass. Like, damn, can I get down the field now? He's behind the line.

28:38Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, but look, you'll take what you can get. Hey, you're trying to make the most of it, bro. I'm telling you. I've been there. You're absolutely right, Joe. You're absolutely right. I've been in those situations, and I'm talking about, when you're talking about thriving in those situations, bro, that's the best thing you can do is try and perfect whatever situation you're in, like you say, especially in basketball, it's hard to catch a rhythm when you only know you're going to get four to seven shots a night. Well, hell, that's how my career started, and I embraced that role, bro, and I enjoyed playing in it.

29:10Chad Johnson:And then, you know, another two, three years on down the line, I finally get a real opportunity to be a cornerstone of a team. Then it's different. You know, it hit a little different. You know, it hit home a lot different. And you embrace and enjoy those moments, bro. You know, because you think about the times here when you was only getting three, four shots a night. Okay, now I'm getting about 12 to 15 a night. This ain't bad. You know what I mean? So you just got to stay locked in.

29:39Shannon Sharpe:That's how it was for me, Joe. I just come in on third down. I'm coming on third down. But you, oh, Joe, you know when you play third down, they throw you the ball. You got to catch it. Ain't nobody trying to hit them. Man, I need to get warmed up. I need to get this. We'll get back to Darren Fox in a second. I think we got Boots joining us. Welcome to the show right now is Jerron Boots Ennis. Well, he's not here quite yet. He logged in. That extension, Joe Ocho, kicks in for De 'Aaron Fox next year. He'll make$51 million. Then he'll make$55.1. Then he'll make$59.2. And then he'll make$63.3. So he's about to get...

30:21Shannon Sharpe:That's$120. That's$122.5. Plus 55, that's 177, plus another 51. So that's about 228 million over the next four years, starting next year.

30:43Shannon Sharpe:Bo, you got us? You hear me? Yeah. Yep. Number one hits, millions of records sold, awards, sold out tours. You think the Jonas Brothers are satisfied? But, nope, it's podcast time. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Hey Jonas is available now, and their first guest is a big one, Paul Rudd. You know, Steve Carell is a great singer. Can he tell you not to audition at The Office or something? I told him. Whoa. We were filming Anchorman. Clearly, I was the idiot. Thank God he didn't listen to me, right? Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

31:20What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luka and Austin Reeves. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows, without Luka and Austin Reeves, I gotta manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's gonna be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed. He has to guard Julius Randle.

31:54And then he has to give us everything he gives us on a night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history, too.

32:03Chad Johnson:Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

32:26I love the sounds. The buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place. Soccer.

32:34Shannon Sharpe:Football. It's home. Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breathe? I inherited that fandom from my mom.

32:43Chad Johnson:I like watching it with my dad.

32:46Joe Johnson:It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Echavarri, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though.

33:14Shannon Sharpe:Are they the only ones that don't like that? Nobody likes that. As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, listen to American football as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

33:35Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is. Getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is. Getting a new one put up in its place.

33:46Joe Johnson:As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War.

33:51Shannon Sharpe:To get to school, I had to go down Robert E. Lee Boulevard.

33:54Chad Johnson:To get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway.

33:57Joe Johnson:If you're a historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akilah Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky Statehouse that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

34:45Everyone sees me as a football player, but before anything else, I'm human. Every single day, I'm still learning how to live with problems, mistakes, relationships, emotions, ever since I was born. And I still have so many questions. Where do we come from? What happens after death? How do you deal with cancellation? Cristiano or Messi? Do aliens exist? What is love? Real Madrid or Barça? From everyday and ordinary to the deep and extraordinary. This isn't a normal podcast. Everything here is spontaneous, real and genuine. This podcast is like a deep talk with your closest friends, where vulnerability comes out.

35:17Conspiracy theories end up on the table and goals and lessons are shared. Todo en esta vida tiene un orden perfecto y todo es justo. Espérenme, yo te voy a apresurarme, pero me lo voy a acabar, está buenísimo. We are here to connect. El Chicharito. El Javier y el Chicharito Hernández, and together with iHeart Radio, we're going to make the ordinary extraordinary. Stay close. Eres un carac.

35:35Joe Johnson:Wow.

35:37Shannon Sharpe:Listen to Learning to be Human on iHeart Radio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You got us?

35:48Joe Johnson:You can hear us? Yeah, I can hear you.

35:51Shannon Sharpe:What's up? What's good? Hey, what's going on, Ocho?

35:54Chad Johnson:You want to take it away? What's going on? What's that now?

35:57Joe Johnson:Uncle, you're leading. You're leading. Uncle, I'm going to take off after you, baby. This is my title. I'm sorry.

36:02Shannon Sharpe:Boots, you got Xander Zayas, the WBO, the WBA junior middleweight titles on the line. you're looking to become a two-way unified champion yes sir this moment you understand these moments are fleeting and this is how you try to make your name you try to like when they talk about 154 then they talk about these great fighters of years past I want them to talk about boots in us moving forward 10 15 years from now like they talk about the 154 then the guys in the past is that your mindset when you're going into this fight because you know what's at stake no for sure you know it's just a that's a legacy you know, a defining moment for me, you know, and then this, this, this was all about.

36:43And I'm going to show the world, you know, start started June 27th, why I'm the best in the world. And we're going to start right here and knock them all down one by one. Yes, sir.

36:52Joe Johnson:When you, when you look at it, right. I think about us. I think about myself, also ISO as well. When we look, we watch film based on our opponents. Have you seen anything from Xander and the fight that he's had? I'm sure you've done your homework. Have you seen anything that you think you might have to worry about when you when you have this fight, some things that he might be good at, you know, some strengths of his and some weaknesses that you may be able to expose fight night? All I'm going to say is buckle up, put your seatbelt on fight night. I mean, you're going to see it all on fight night, man.

37:21I can't wait. You know, I'm going to show out and show. And I'm going to show y 'all. I'm going to show y 'all. You know, I really don't want to, you know, spill too many beans, but I'm going to show y 'all. Yes, sir. That's what's up.

37:31Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, Boots, what's up, bro? It's Iso. What's going on? Hey, hey, big fan here, bro. I love watching you play. I know Philly has a legendary boxing history, deeply rooted in grit, toughness. What really got you into boxing, and what's some of your favorite boxers out of Philly? What got me into boxing is, well, my dad was a former professional boxer, and both my brothers, Derek Poole, and it's a Friday, quiet son. And this day was former professional boxers. One was at 168, and one was at 154. and it was like a family thing. I was able to watch my brothers come up on ESPN, Showtime. So I've been around this boxing game forever, so there's nothing new to me.

38:15I've been here before. Your first love, I'm saying you started boxing when, by how old were you? I couldn't even walk and I was in the gym. They got a video of me in the jumper just hitting the bag. I couldn't even walk or anything.

38:33Shannon Sharpe:But when you hear Xander say you've never faced a fighter like him. He said yeah you're a great fighter. He don't want to take anything away from you but you've never faced anybody like him with the skill that he possessed, the power that he possessed and he said like you're going to be in for it when you guys face. He's a solid fighter. He's a solid fighter but it's a lot of guys that fight like him. It's not a lot of guys. It's nobody that fight like me. I got my own style. He's going to be in for a real weekend. Nobody that he got in sparring. Nobody that he got and his camp can't do what I do.

39:06They don't know how I'm coming. They don't know what I'm going to do on camp. I mean, I'm fighting. So they got a lot more to worry about than me.

39:14Shannon Sharpe:Boos, when you go, let me ask you this. When you're going into a fight, obviously you know you're fighting a guy that has the titles. When you go into sparring sessions, are you trying to get guys that resemble him as much? So what are you, are you trying to get guys that are slick with it? You're trying to get guys that got power with it. So what are you kind of looking for? Are you kind of getting a combination? Because I hear a lot of guys talk about, where I go seven, eight rounds continuous. Where I get a guy, I go three rounds with him. And then, hey, I take my minute break, and then I go two, three rounds with another guy.

39:42Shannon Sharpe:And then I go two or three rounds with another guy. So what are you looking for in a sparring session that's going to best prepare you to fight the guy that you're fighting on a Saturday night? In a sparring session, you've got to have multiple guys. Some of these guys, what I learned coming up in this box game, you can watch table on guys, or people might fight this person this way, somebody might fight this person that way, but they're not going to fight you that same way. So you got to be prepared all around the board. And that's what we do. We got 60 pounds, 68 pounds, big guys, fans guys, little guys.

40:13We got it all in the camp. So you got to be prepared all around. You know, and that way you can work on all different things in camp. And not just one certain thing because you never know. You know, in fighting, you might switch the whole game plan up. You got to be ready all around the board. Right.

40:28Joe Johnson:Hey, Boosh. Go ahead, Ocho. No, I'm going to say I don't want to put the eggs before the – How do you say, Unc? I don't want to put the egg before the chicken.

40:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you don't want to catch the chicken before the chicken.

40:39Joe Johnson:But obviously, listen, I like Xander. I've watched him fight many times. I've been to a few of his camps. But again, he's never seen anyone like you before. Based on his style of fighting, you've seen fighters that fight like him before. Your style is completely different. Obviously, being able to switch hits, fight from distance, fight in the pocket, fight at range, anything you want to do athletically you're probably going to be just just being honest authentically and when it comes to ring iq you're probably gonna be two or three steps at two or three steps ahead of him obviously i think speed is going to be a problem for him as well which which there's no one he can actually get in his camp to kind of mirror what what it's going to look like fight night you know on the 27th right but after this fight in which is probably going to be a great one based off what you told us when the show just started is there someone that you have your eyes set on fighting next?

41:30Joe Johnson:Because for you, it's been a problem for you getting the fights that you want because people are actually scared to fight you. They call you a bookman for a reason. People are actually scared to fight you. Is there anyone that you would want to fight next? Right now, I said, we ain't looking past nobody. We're going to lock in his eyes right now. I'm locking on him and that's it. And like I said, we're going to take it one fight at a time. We're going to knock them all down one by one. And we're going, like I said, I'm going to show the world I'm the best in the world. I'm taking it over slowly but surely.

41:59It's one fight at a time. Yeah.

42:01Chad Johnson:Hey, Boots, I see you a few weeks away from fight night. What is camp like right now? What you mean? Like the everyday? Yeah, like your everyday regiment leading up to the fight. Like what your training is like, how you eat. Like I want to know all that. Right now? I mean, I'm on my own schedule. I kind of like, I get up and train whenever I want. You know, I do three of these and from boxing, sparring, tripping, tripping condition, running, pool workouts. So I break all that up in three different times each day. So I got a lot going on. And then I rest on my Sunday and then start to go all over and do it again for the week.

42:45Kemp been going great, though. Eating right, doing everything I'm supposed to be doing, having fun. This is what it's all about. Having fun while you're in Kemp so fighting that can be super easy. Yes, sir.

42:54Joe Johnson:Is there ever such a thing as overtraining at any point where you think you train too much, where you're not able to perform the way you want to because you've done so much throughout an eight-week camp or whatever it may be? I mean, it depends how many weeks you do for camp. Some guys do 10 weeks. Some guys do eight weeks. Some guys need 16 weeks. It depends what these guys be doing. Right. And I don't really, I don't do too long of a camp, you know, and I try to, because I'm always in the gym anyway. I stay in the gym anyway. So my camp not really, all I need is eight weeks. I don't even really need that.

43:30But I just do eight weeks and eight weeks is just me locking in and doing everything I should be doing, working on everything I need to be working on. And that's about it. So, I mean, some fighters do do it. Like I said, some fighters can overtrane because they doing 16, 10 weeks, 12 weeks. You don't need all that to get ready for a fight.

43:47Shannon Sharpe:well if you if you see that leads into my question i was about to ask you because i you're going down to 154 what did you walk around weight i think one of the things that aided floyd is that floyd fought the majority of his career especially the latter part at 147 well floyd walks around at 152 so he don't need but two weeks to camp to go cut weight if guys come and trying to come down for the 154 and they 185 and 190 hell yeah you need 16 weeks to get all that No, thanks. You're right. You're right. But it's about your lifestyle, how you living outside of camp, too. Absolutely. You got to eat right.

44:21Yeah, you're going to have your days where you're going to want to play around, cheat, and eat a little bit of junk food. Maybe McDonald's here and there. Yes. You know how I get down, Ucho. You know how I get down. McDonald's, baby. No, but you might have your little cheat days, but you got to stay locked in. The job not done at the end of the day. You got to keep doing what you're doing, keep pushing forward. When it's all said and done, you can look back and be like, all right, now I can chill, I can relax. I did everything I wanted to do. I retired on top, undefeated legend, and I got to enjoy my fruits and my labor.

44:55That's my whole mindset right now. Yeah. That's what's up, bro.

44:58Shannon Sharpe:The funny thing about it is – You moved up at the welterweight. You took those belts. And you automatically started talking 54 and 68. So you trying to pull a Bud. I mean, Bud 47. He go, Bud was 40, 47. and then pole vault to 68 and take down a guy that they thought was beatable. Nobody other than what you call him had unified the what you call him to see. He unified three divisions. Yeah, I'm here to, you know, stamp my own legacy and take over each division. Whatever division I'm at, that's what I'm taking. I'm taking it over. I'm taking every belt home with me. That's my goal. They was down there.

45:33I was at 147. They was playing around at 47. So I'm moving up to 54. Now I'm about to take over and, you know, be on the speed at 54 and then do the same day as 60 and 68. And then I'm going to go ahead and retire as undefeated legend and dream our fruits and my labor. Hold on.

45:48Shannon Sharpe:You try to do 47, 54, 60, and 68. I did 47 already. I was WBA, Super WBA champ, and IVF and Ring Magazine champ at 147. And now I'm about to fight for the WBO and WBA. About to be unified here. And then two more. I need two more belts. And then I move up and I do 60, 68. Yep, I'm trying. This is what I'm this is all about Well let me ask you what you let me ask your question boots What's up what do you walk around it in order for you to because it go down to four from the B47 and go to 68 So it took so damn what you 175 walk around naturally I don't know I can't tell you I don't know For you to move up like that man Yeah, I can move up for sure.

46:35And when I'm in camp, I usually – I have bigger guys in camp. I be having 68, 68-pounders, 75-pounders, sometimes cruiserweight. So I can do it. I know I can do it.

46:47Joe Johnson:Hey, I was on Andre Brodo's podcast not long ago, and we were trying to think of some things. And we talk about your fighting style and the way you fight. And I was trying to look at – trying to think of flaws, just something to have a conversation about. and really the only thing obviously watching you you know over the years obviously being in camp with you training with you you know for two three months as well i was trying to find anything negative you know and it was hard to find anything negative based on your fighting style and the one thing the only thing i could think of was well maybe sometimes you get hits you know sometime maybe do clean and then i also thought about well hell he rolls with most of the punches that he gets hit with and obviously he's not fighting people where he respects their power you know and yeah when it comes to that for those that say you get hit too much what do you have to say to those critics come on come on joe man you're acting like casual bro i'm not like casual bro i just i just just just just to shut them i already know yeah i know what i'm watching i get it i mean i don't know where they got this they got this crazy narrative from i don't know where it came from but it's the only narrative that they keep seeing like I get hit too much but every time I come out the ring I don't have no cuts, no bumps no lumps yeah I might get hit, it's boxing, everybody get hit but it's a certain way you get hit I know how to roll with the punches if I do get hit I'm not going to get hit with it again people got to look at stuff like that people got to sit back and really watch my fights and really like, then he did get hit with that shot but he didn't get hit with it again or he got hit with that shot that time but this time he rolled with it.

48:26Sometimes you got to roll with it because it'd be too late to bring your hand up so you can just roll with it. It might look like you get hit, but you're not. But I don't know where they get this narrative from, but like I said before, I just take it as a compliment. They got to find something, you know, when you greet. So you got to find something to talk bad about. So it is what it is.

48:44Joe Johnson:Your defense is phenomenal. Your defense is phenomenal. I've seen it with my own eyes. I witnessed it. I was in there with you, even though I beat you up, but I was still in there and witnessed it. I know you still heard from them body shots.

48:58Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you ain't doing no body shot at Boots? You ain't even touching my top. I was ripping his body up. I wanted some ribs that day.

49:11Hey.

49:18Shannon Sharpe:Obviously, at 147, there have been some great. I'm talking about historically great Fight fighters you got Hearns and you got Sugar Ray and you Got Floyd you've got a lot Of fighters at that 147 Um uh Roy Roy started at at 54 Roy is mainly known as up 60 68 More than 68 and then he moved from there To light heavy and end up winning the heavyweight Championship but who are some of the fighters When you were growing up saying you know what I kind of like him Um Growing up I always Besides watching my dad and my brothers, I always watch Floyd. That was my Floyd, Roy, Sweet Pea. Sweet Pea had defense.

50:01Shannon Sharpe:He didn't have the greatest power. But you talking about, hey, you took my slip out to my axles. Yeah. And Prince Nassim. He was my four-figure fighter. That's all I used to watch. And that's, I feel like coming up in the amateurs and then, like, eventually turning pro and all that stuff, I feel like I just mesh my dad and my brothers. And then I took pieces from Floyd and Roy and Pernell and Prince Nassim. I started watching James, Tony, and Surrey Leonard. I'm just trying to steal all different things. That's how you get better. That's how you learn and get better. And that's what I've been doing.

50:37I'm just stealing little different things from different people and just trying to better myself. That's all.

50:42Joe Johnson:If you had to pick one fighter today that you enjoy watching, and when you watch them fight, everything about their style of fighting is the definition of what the sweet science is. Who would that be? Outside of yourself. You said, like old time or just... Come watch them fight. Old school or right now? Today? Right now, yeah.

51:09I'm trying to think. I ain't going to lie like Ben.

51:14Joe Johnson:Connor Ben? No, Bam. Bam Rodriguez. Oh, Bam. Okay, okay, okay. I think he a complete baggage. I think he do it all. For today.

51:26He's slick. He got inside game. He got outside game. He got pressure in front. He can box. Besides myself, I feel like it would be him.

51:34Shannon Sharpe:I like it. Who are you top five Philly fighters? Top five Philly fighters ever? Yep. Man, I don't know. uh smoking joe got to be joe joe first for sure smoking joe gotta be in there who be hot number two i mean you got you could throw b-hop in there uh i ain't really i never really watched too much coming up so i can't really really say but you can throw b-hop in there uh joe frazier b-hop i don't know i'm missing some uh meldick teller um i'm gonna be missing some people, but... He got robbed against Chavez. He got robbed against Chavez. Yes, he did. He did, and so did Pranel, too. That's my favorite fight.

52:20One of my favorite fights to watch. Yeah.

52:25Shannon Sharpe:Man, Steele. Richard Steele was on the fight, was the ref in the fight against Chavez. Oh, yeah. And everybody was talking about, oh, Chavez fighting a great fight. What's called? We're rubbing his ass up. And then he stopped the fight with like six, seven seconds to go in the game. Because Taylor would have won the fight Yep.

52:44Chad Johnson:Hey, Boots, you got a birthday coming up, bro, on the 26th. You know, it's the same day as Unk. Who's birthday at 26th? Oh, man. My birthday brother. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got three counselors on here. Yeah, yeah. That's the day I weigh in, too. You know, I fight at 27th, and I weigh in on 26th. So, that's an early birthday gift to my, you know, well, late birthday gift to my soul. So, you know, that's how I win. That's what's up. So I was asking that because I'm sure you probably don't really have much of a celebration you're going to do for real, knowing that you got to fight the next day.

53:21Chad Johnson:Like, what? No, my celebration is going to be me getting in the ring, you know, 27. And putting the hands on them. You know, coming back home with two new brand new belts, you know, being a unified, you know, a two-division unified weight division champion. that's what I'm worried about right now that's my birthday to myself

53:44Joe Johnson:you know to be a gym rat right after the fight how long you gonna take off you know I get right back a week alright my last fight was only around but I got ready I was back in the gym on Monday but it depends how the fight be going you know if I'm if I hurt someone or if I'm sore I might wait maybe a week week we play the longest though but i'm back in the gym monday or tuesday like right back in the

54:13Chad Johnson:gym yeah hey hey hey what's the thought process though when you train for six to eight ten weeks and then you go in there and whoop a dude in a round i mean is that kind of ideal for you or you like damn i ain't really getting no work tonight i love it we'll get people over time Get in and get out. We're going to get paid for OT. Hey, if I can get in this thing in the first round, I'm going to try to get him up out of there. I mean, at the end of the day, fans want to see a little bit of boxing, and they want to see a knockout. But if you can get a knockout early, go get it. That's what I'll be doing.

54:48You know, I love bringing home the knockouts.

54:51Shannon Sharpe:Boots, we're going to get you out of here on this. Obviously, A.J. Brown is no longer in Philly. What are your thoughts on that, and what do you think your ego is going to do? Oh, man, I mean, A.J. Brown, He was a cool dude. He came to our gym. He was chilling with us and all that and working out and stuff like that. He's a cool dude. I think the Eagles are going to be all right this year, though. They got Lemons. I like him. He's nice. You got Smitty. Smitty is going to go crazy this year. I think we're going to be good. I think we're going to be all right. I think we're going to go to the Super Bowl again.

55:25Joe Johnson:I got one more question. Talk to me. Like you know I've been doing this About eight years right You know Getting real sharp Spend some time with you Spend some time with all the top fighters Stealing stuff from each other Like if we got in there right now I will put you out in 20 minutes I'm not the same I'm not the same Person I was when we sparred two three years ago He's saying he ain't either And I'm bigger now Huh? And I'm bigger now. I'm bigger now. And I'm sharper. Ocho. What? Just give me 30 seconds. 20 seconds. Hey. Hey, hold on. I guarantee you we go seven rounds. Hey, Boos, you going to walk in?

56:14Joe Johnson:I'm a smarky. Smarky. Smarky. I don't want ribs no more. I want 10 now.

56:19Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey. Hold on. Hey, Boos, before you get a hold to him, I got to tell his ass up first. Then I'll send him on you. Let me touch him up first. Then I'll let you get him. Y 'all gotta come record that at the gym. Come do it at the gym. That'd be crazy content.

56:34Joe Johnson:We could do an episode of Nightcap at the gym, and I'm gonna lump him up. I'm gonna give him seven rounds. Hey, running clock. Running clock. Damn!

56:45Shannon Sharpe:That man said he wanted a running clock on you. Who? Me and you! Oh, no. We gotta make sure we got the ambulance, dear. We gotta make sure we got doctors on site. Hey, listen.

56:58Joe Johnson:Hey, listen. You taught me too much. That's why I talk so much trash now. What's up? Damn, Boots. Hey, I'm like that. You know it's real, right? I know it's real. I been in there. I done been through the storm. Nah. I got an umbrella now. That ain't going to work. This one blow rule too hard for that, man. Yeah, yeah. Hey, Boots, my hand's registered, man. These hands registered. Yo, you crazy, man. There's something wrong with you, man. I'm like, after I get you a chin, I'm going to have some McDonald's waiting for you. He ain't going to be able to eat it. His job will be close.

57:35Shannon Sharpe:He's going to be able to eat it. He's going to have to drink it. He's going to have to puree it and drink it. Just hope the McDonald's ice cream machine working, because that's going to be able to eat something solid. Yeah. Hey, Bruce, best of luck on the fight, man. Hey, when you win this fight, come back and tell us how you did it. For sure. That's Jerron Bruce. Definitely coming back, bro. With them two brand new brothers. Appreciate y 'all, man. Yes, sir. Y 'all ready? Appreciate you, bro. Thank you very much. Jerron Boots and his gearing up for his 154 against... Hey, where you fighting at?

58:06Shannon Sharpe:I'll go with y 'all.

58:08Joe Johnson:He in Philly. He's fighting Philly. Oh, in New York. I think it's in New York. If I'm not mistaken. I think it's New York. Number one hits. Millions of records sold. Awards. Sold out tours. You think the Jonas Brothers are satisfied? Nope. It's podcast time. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Hey Jonas is available now, and their first guest is a big one, Paul Rudd. You know, Steve Carell is a great singer. Can you tell you not to audition at The Office or something? I told him. Whoa. We were filming Anchorman. Clearly, I was the idiot. Thank God he didn't listen to me, right?

58:39Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luka and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luka and Austin Reed, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed.

59:17He has to guard Julius Randle. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on a night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too.

59:27Chad Johnson:Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running on the court licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

59:51I love the sounds, the buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans,

59:55Shannon Sharpe:the announcers calling the place. Soccer. Futbol. It's home. Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breed? I inherited that fandom from my mom.

1:00:08Joe Johnson:I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Echavarri, and this is American Futbol. a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though. Are they the only ones that don't like that?

1:00:41Shannon Sharpe:Nobody likes that. As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, Listen to American Football as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:01:00Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is. Getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is. Getting a new one put up in its place.

1:01:11Joe Johnson:As long as there's a politics of race in America, There's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War.

1:01:16Shannon Sharpe:To get to school, I had to go down Robert E.

1:01:18Chad Johnson:Lee Boulevard.

1:01:19Shannon Sharpe:To get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're a historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akilah Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky Statehouse that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:01:59Shannon Sharpe:Welcome to Sabora Football, the sweet and the spicy on and off the field. I'm Daniela Duran, and this is where we get to know the people behind the game like never before. the pressure, the fame, and everything that happens when the cameras turn off. Enjoy conversations with guests like Marpartra.

1:02:17Joe Johnson:¿Te gusta más Víctor Aldez o Casillas? Claro que... ¿Y qué Casillas? Puyol. ¿Y Piqué? En el Valencia.

1:02:24Chad Johnson:Sí, en las tardes, la verdad que siempre se forman los pueblos, se forman los partidos a las tardes, pero el sueño de ser futbolista ese, la verdad que no.

1:02:33Shannon Sharpe:Sharon Escobar, Pollo Uliseño. ¿Andas o no con mi rodada? ¿Estás viral con eso? ¿Estás viral? ¿Estás viral?

1:02:49Shannon Sharpe:And many more. Listen to Sabora Football on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:03:03Joe Johnson:At Barclays or MSG? I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

1:03:05Chad Johnson:Hey, I like Boos, bro. He put on the show when he out there.

1:03:08Joe Johnson:Hey, I'm going to joke. I know I'm sitting here playing around. Talking about what I do. When I stepped in that ring with that young fella there.

1:03:20Chad Johnson:Eating that knife.

1:03:23Joe Johnson:I got to the point in round two and I'm looking in his eyes and I want to say are you forgetting that it's me? Is that Barclays, guys? Hey, Joe, I'm looking. I'm like, are you forgetting that it's me? Because he's gone. He's not realizing, dude, I'm just training, trying to work. He going for real. His 60 % was overwhelming. Overwhelming. And, man, he tore my ribs up, right? When you watch a pro, and that's what people don't realize.

1:04:02Shannon Sharpe:When you watch a pro and he's going against somebody that's not a pro, you look at guys that are really good at golf. And when they go up against pro golfers, they make, they look like me. When you see a, when you see a basketball guy and he goes up against an average guy, he makes them look like me. Or you look at a guy at football, you look at stuff like that. You watch a pro and do you look, you're like, now you understand why he or she are pros. There's levels to this. there's levels to this man and I don't think people realize that when you see oh man he a really good golfer boy a pro golfer beat him by 10 shots

1:04:43Joe Johnson:hey Joe you know what I'm hard headed too Joe

1:04:46Chad Johnson:we all know that old Joe

1:04:47Joe Johnson:I done been in there with Boos I done got whooped we did four rounds I done been in there with Caleb Plant I done been in there with Bo Charlo twins done got whooped I done got whooped by everybody just to see what it's like to see if at some point, if I can just get a little closer just a little closer to land this up you started too late

1:05:09Shannon Sharpe:I ain't landed shot in about 8 years you ain't you ain't instead of starting 8 years ago you need to start when you were 8 years old you gotta be able to see them punches I can't see shit and you ain't got You have a one-out-two? Yeah, they tear your ass up. That's why you got to be able to see the budget, man. The budget be coming so – and I tell people, if you've never been to a fight, you think what you're seeing on TV is fast, watching it up close. In real time.

1:05:41Chad Johnson:Crazy.

1:05:43Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it's a difference.

1:05:45Chad Johnson:Watching it on TV is just like in the NFL or the NBA. You think them damn dudes ain't moving fast out there, you want to. Boy, them boys moving out there. It's different. way.

1:05:55Shannon Sharpe:That's what I tell people, Joe. I say, you think, I say from the stands is one thing. Get field level. Be on the sideline and watch them collisions. Then you'll get an appreciation. You're like, damn, you take hits like that every Sunday, 16, 17 times or something? No, yeah. I mean, you catch 10 passes, hey, all of them ain't going to be no touchdowns, so you'll get your ass busted. Oh, yeah. So, and you're like, yeah hell yeah those licks are like that those guys are moving and everybody coming with bad intentions you know they're coming with bad intentions now look some of the physicality is still listen when ocho and i we talk about guys some of the physicality has been removed and it has it's been legislated out but if you think they're not still coming out they're still not hitting you fooling yourself now hey i want to want to see no you don't want to see what it feel like because you're going to get broken up.

1:06:52Shannon Sharpe:Because you don't know how to take a hit. And you don't know how to fall. So if the hit don't break your ass, when you hit the ground, you will get broken up. You got to understand how to fall with those. And most people don't know how to fall when they take a shot. Yeah, it's an art to it, Joe. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're going to be all stiff. You will end up stiff and try to brace. And you will dislocate your shoulder. You'll dislocate your elbow. You'll dislocate a finger. You don't understand that. You know what I mean? But no, it's a whole different ballgame. Pro and from a pro to an amateur, even from a pro to a guy that's wanting to be a pro.

1:07:34Until you understand that, it's level to this.

1:07:39Shannon Sharpe:It really is.

1:07:40Joe Johnson:I don't think they will ever understand. Joe, you think about Twitter, you think about social media, you think about everyone having a voice now, especially when it comes to the respective craft that they enjoy watching and always talk about the players. I wish they had the opportunity to be in that atmosphere and maybe play against those players and see how fast the game is, whether it's boxing or whether it's football or whether it's basketball, to see how difficult the game really is. Because everyone talks as if they're so great on social media, behind the keyboard, on what, oh, I would have done this or I would have done that.

1:08:14Joe Johnson:I play ball. not really understanding or respecting the craft in general on hard on how hard it is to do at that level

1:08:23Chad Johnson:hey it's got a lot of challenges man i'm talking about if you ain't started playing when you was young it's hard to jump in at 16 17 years old talking about i'm gonna be a pro in any damn sport

1:08:35Shannon Sharpe:man please man hold on i'm trying to find this thing because there was like i think i said it to you guys where like 25, 30 % of the people believe they could beat a grizzly bear in a hand-to-hand combat. A grizzly who?

1:08:54Chad Johnson:Man, please.

1:08:55Shannon Sharpe:Grizzly ass? A grizzly bear. No. People actually believe that they could beat... We have this conversation. You know there are people that sit at home and they watch the Olympics. And when they ask them, what event you think you could get a gold medal in, people be talking about swimming. People be talking about... I'm like, bro, do you realize these people have trained a lifetime? The majority of these people have trained a lifetime, and they don't get a gold medal. And somehow you think you're sitting your fat, lazy ass on the couch, and you're going to go out there and get a gold medal just because you said it?

1:09:30Chad Johnson:Ain't no way.

1:09:32Shannon Sharpe:I mean, people are delusional. People believe they can be the grizzly. People believe they can be the lion. People believe they can wrestle a crocodile or an alligator. I'm like, boy, y 'all are delusional. Hold on. What about the gorilla?

1:09:43Chad Johnson:Man, please. Them folks don't believe that, Ojo.

1:09:46Joe Johnson:Man, listen. Hey, Joe, they need to bring back pros versus Joes.

1:09:51Chad Johnson:Hey, and if they think they can hand-to-hand come back with a Grizzly, they Grizzly going to slap fire out of them. You hear me? Knock the taste out of they mouth.

1:10:00Shannon Sharpe:Do they understand how tall a male Grizzly bear is? Once they go on their high legs?

1:10:05Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:10:06Shannon Sharpe:They damn near 10 feet tall, weigh 1 ,200 pounds. Did you see the claws? I mean literally he would literally slap you one time and like they do in the cartoons you like an accordion that's literally he would like literally split you and you being like 5, 6, 7 absolutely they take down 8, 5, 6, 7, 800 pound animals to eat alive what chance do the average man that's 5 '9 185 190 let's give him 200 what chance you got against a damn grizzly bear not even a female most of the attacks happen with females cause somebody close to the cubs forget that big that big dog papa my bad maybe 1800 pounds maybe they weigh 1800 pounds but people are delusional I said these are people that's really never seen a grizzly or a lion or a tiger in person because if you saw one in person Ain't no way you think it's a lie.

1:11:12Chad Johnson:Look, look, look.

1:11:13Shannon Sharpe:No way. A house cat will get on your ass and make you say, get rid of it. A house cat. One of them orange cabins that y 'all see walking the damn street, he'll set fire to you. You're like, man, I ain't getting no cat. And make you give him away. But somehow you're going to be the 400 pound lion or a 700 800 pound tiger.

1:11:32Chad Johnson:Man, y 'all better get y 'all ass out of here. Hey, hey, you be on the watch the animal planet like me, don't you, man? Yeah, I watch it too. Hey, hey, hey, them animals ain't no joke, boy. Hey, you better respect nature. You got to.

1:11:47Shannon Sharpe:I do. That's why I don't stay. Hey, I stay my ass out in the woods. He had me in the woods for 20 years, and I ain't running to no panthers. I ain't running to no bears. I ain't running to nothing. Yeah, we kill water moccasins and rattlesnakes and stuff like that, but I'm good. I respect them because I know. I've seen what hogs do to our dogs. I've seen what hogs do to people. No, no, uh-uh, uh-uh. Hey, them big old wild hogs my grandmother had had toasts like this. You try to feed them, they rip the whole sack. Boy go up there and get them dogs. Me and Spanky run up there, we let Champ and Bruce out.

1:12:27Shannon Sharpe:Them juggles clear the fence. They already know what time it is. They grab them ears and sit down.

1:12:34Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, listen.

1:12:36Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe.

1:12:36Chad Johnson:What's up?

1:12:37Joe Johnson:Have you seen the clip of the Grizzly Bears fighting? I know you've probably seen it.

1:12:42Chad Johnson:Yeah, I probably have. Yeah.

1:12:44Joe Johnson:By the back of the neck. A side of a, it was torn. Yeah, side of his leg or something? Yeah, you saw, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:12:52Shannon Sharpe:Think about how tough his heart is. And he opened him up like that. What you think he'd do to a human? Eat your face off. They take, when they take down, they take down an elk. Elk weigh 5, 6, 800 pounds. But somehow y 'all gonna beat me.

1:13:11Chad Johnson:Bro, listen. Ocho, I lived in Utah. I lived in Park City. I lived in Park City. When I tell y 'all, there used to be mooses in our yard, backyard, front yard. You leaving them. Big mooses, Ocho. They huge. I'm talking about them things bigger than horses. You hear me? Yeah. You don't realize I'm big. Yeah, and they don't play neither.

1:13:34Shannon Sharpe:I'm talking about... No, no, no, no. Especially if you catch the females with them kids or you catch the males when it's in rut. When it's big things, when it's time to mate, Ocho. You catch an animal when it's time to mate, that test roster, I mean, it's going through the roof. It's eight, ten times higher than what it normally is.

1:13:57Chad Johnson:Hey, that's when they'll attack and kill you. Kill your ass up. I'm talking about, man, I'm talking about, I was literally three, four feet away from a moose. I'm pulling out the driveway one day. I had to stop, grab a trash can to go put it back up. Man, the big-ass moose was right there in the driveway, bro. I left that trash can right there.

1:14:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I got that.

1:14:19Joe Johnson:Hey, you know what? Speaking of animals that you can domesticate, I know I probably can't because I don't have a wildlife license. But you know you can own a hyena?

1:14:29Chad Johnson:You don't want that old Joe.

1:14:30Joe Johnson:No, I'm just saying, Joe, I can't do it because I'm on the road too much. but for some reason I like hyenas. What you like about hyenas? They just funny. They laugh just like me. Yeah, I don't know. I just seen a few people that domesticated hyenas but obviously they have a wildlife license and they just like cuddly and they like fun and stuff.

1:14:52Shannon Sharpe:Oh man. 12 % of the men believe they can beat a gorilla. 12 % of the men believe they can beat a lion. 11 % of the men believe they can beat an elephant. 7 % to 8 % of men believe they can beat a grizzly bear 14 of the men believe they can beat a crocodile 23 of the men believe they can beat a king cobra with no weapon 18 of the men believe they can beat a wolf 22 of the men believe they can beat a chimpanzee with no with no weapon man no weapon

1:15:24Joe Johnson:just beat it one hey when it comes to the snakes uncle joe we don't have the reflexes to even survive. You don't have the reflexes.

1:15:37Shannon Sharpe:He done bit you twice before you're like, damn. And the next thing you know, you just like getting dizzy. You just be like, damn. You're like, oh, what's happening? Yeah, we do not have the reflexes for that. Unless you're a cat? Yeah. You notice how a cat can be right there. And he strike, that cat done move back. That cat done jump back or done slap him. You ain't got no cat reflex. I don't understand how they do that. I don't understand how cats do that. I don't understand. If you notice how you hold a cat, Ocho, and you drop him, and he lands on his feet. Yep. Because he turns his back half one way and his front half another way.

1:16:20Shannon Sharpe:That's why he always lands on his feet. No matter how close you drop. No, how? Yeah.

1:16:30Chad Johnson:Don't miss them.

1:16:31Shannon Sharpe:I grew up, we used to have cats all the time. My grandmother found a cat at the nursing home and brought her home. The name was Tiger. Named a Tiger gal. Man, Tiger gal had so many litters.

1:16:41Chad Johnson:Damn.

1:16:41Shannon Sharpe:Jesus Christ. Man, I bet you we had, if we had 15 cats, we had 15. Damn. And then every time my grandma go fishing, here y 'all go. She's like, hey, man. Man, I was like, where did cats come from? They're like, you see the movie Children on the Court, now they be coming out Now they're going to be coming out the damn woods to get the fish hands and fish cuts I'm like, y 'all need to leave But when you got cats, you ain't got rats Because if you got rats, you got snakes It's a trade-off, and I don't care who you are If you in the country If you got rats, you got snakes Damn It's really that simple Number one hits, millions of records sold awards, sold out tours.

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