Nightcap - Hour 1: Diddy Verdict Reaction + DDG 💩 gate

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2:19Welcome to Nightcap Takeover Week 2. It is still a T-Stead Takeover, and I am joined by two legendary guests, well, hosts, co-hosts, excuse me, two legendary co-hosts this evening. I got the future Hall of Famer, a dog, T-Sizzle, and I got the platinum recording artist out of Brooklyn, New York, my dog Mano. What's going on, fellas? What's happening, brother? What's happening? How we feeling this evening? Fives. Feeling good, man. What's them 4th of July plans looking like? We got the 4th tomorrow. What are we doing? I mean, I'm going to float around a little bit. I've been on set shooting this TV show.

3:08Me and Shaq and a couple of people been on there all week. So tomorrow, I think tomorrow's the last day. I'm looking for a plate, bro. Can you tell us about the show? Hold on, what you got? It's a mob-inspired show. It's a show that's already on TV right now. It's on Amazon, I believe. Prime. It's called Graves Inn. It's already two seasons in. We on the third season. So we've been shooting for it for the last week, this whole week right here. What's the name of it again? Graves Inn. So it's a mob show. It was about, you know, the Italian mafia back in the 80s. Shaq is a gangster. I'm one of the goons.

3:48And, you know, it's just the interaction between the white Italian mafia and some of the black dudes that was holding it down in that day. Really? Oh, yeah. And Shaq is a gangster? His character is Mustafa. Oh, wow. So how do they shoot that when you standing next to him? You know Shaq's like the biggest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Shaq is God size. It's hard. As a director, you would think like, all right, do they give you? Gotta shoot wide. Do they give you like Apple boxes to stand on or something like that? How you gonna? Nah, I'm six feet, so I'm all right. I'm cool. Hey, can't nobody stand in a picture with Shaq.

4:33Like, no, I've never felt so small in my life. like I meant like the Nickelodeon Awards or something he was like hosting and he was just the biggest human being he got the like biggest hands I'm just like I'm not finna stand next to this dude and I'm with my woman I'm the biggest man she ever seen but then here come a fucking Shaq you know what I mean I mean Ring Shaq got four and all them man I'm like nah man we gotta move around you had to move away from that that. Like, that was a nigga that had more money and more accolades than me. It was like, ah. You got to move around? You got to move around.

5:17Man, we've seen you appear in starring shows, movies. You know, we know you're making skills top-notch. How was Shaq as an actor? You got to remember Shaq been doing this. For sure. You got to remember Shaq was in movies back in the 90s. Shaq has done it all, right? We talking basketball. But he was kind of... We talking rap. We talking rap. Let's not forget, he was... He was playing the rap. Yeah. Let's not forget, he was playing the work with Biggie, Nas, J.Z. I think every Shaq album went platinum. This is what I'm saying. Back in those days when they was, you know, when Fushnickens and all that was out.

5:56That's like unheard of. And that was his favorite group. That's unheard of for a person who's not really a rapper and he, like, got into rap and for him to release albums and all of them go platinum. People don't understand how hard it is to go platinum. If your album sold 500 ,000 albums, it would be a major success. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right, right. I mean, listen, he had a love for the culture. He come from the culture, right? You don't have to actually be an artist to come from the culture. You growing up, we come from the same kind of backgrounds. we all played basketball on crates we all went to school and tried to play ball and at the same time we was on our way to school we was listening to rap music we was doing the same thing so i mean it it's it's only right but he's one of the ones that really was able to cover all those bases and then when we talk about movies like i mean he did many movies blue chips yeah yeah what else Shaq was in.

6:59I just saw him yesterday. I was watching CB4. He cameoed in that. Like Shaq. And to still be who he is. Right. To stand the test of time. A lot of that was what? Early, mid-90s? Early, mid-90s. Blue Chip, I want to say it was like 93. That was with Penny Hardaway. Right, this is Orlando. Yeah. This is Orlando. Man of Steel. That's crazy, that's long. He was like, and Freddie got fingered. Like, you know, remember they loved Shaq, like, in Hollywood. Right. Like, he was putting him in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shaq is a mogul. He's a mogul. Yeah. Right. Yep. All right, Mano, let me ask you this. I know you got your New York roots.

7:57You know, we all have been in the news and browsing the World Wide Web. So what's your thoughts on the Diddy verdict? What's your thoughts on P. Diddy verdict? I think it was, I mean, listen, to me it was always an overcharged situation. I never felt like it should have been a Rico. I never felt like it should have been in the courtroom. because if you understand what a RICO is, this was never that. RICO was created to catch the mob. Come on, we did. We're talking organized crime. We're talking about running a criminal enterprise. All right? Now, he was doing things that, I mean, I probably wouldn't do.

8:39I might have thought I was a freak, but until now, I've realized that I'm really not. Right? Okay? But at the end of the day, it wasn't a RICO. and then my whole thing is like they created this whole narrative and then when the trial came out we didn't see none of that like they had this whole thing about ditty parties what happened to the ditty parties because if you look at what was going on in the transcripts and what happened in the testimony those freak offs was like there was no parties there was no parties this was a hotel with a man his woman and whatever else they had In a board mansion?

9:17Right, right. This is closed off personal situations. Had nothing to do with it. Remember all this talk about a sex dungeon, underage kids, rapists, all the drugs in the Baby OU? I knew the case was flimsy when they started to only talk about the Baby OU. When the feds is leaking information to the media and they only talking about the Baby OU, what we really talking about? No. When you're talking about the baby. So, like, When this comes out, you're like, yo, this is bad. And, you know, all of us, being in a black community, we know people, like, the feds don't come get you unless they know they got a case.

9:58We know the feds don't come, but that wasn't the case here. But that's not always true, and I tell people that all the time. The feds got a... And you've seen it right now in this case right here,

10:13where they turn and really kind of make a narrative, right, and really spin it. They know them to do this. They do it all the time, right? You'll get locked up for one situation, and the next thing you know, you got a conspiracy because they done created a narrative around it. So they do this. It's just that. They stack the deck on you, and you look at all that time. They stack it up, they create that narrative, they tell you exactly who you are, right, and they drag you in the courtroom and say, this is who you are. And I think that now we got a chance to see that because this is a situation where it was a domestic violence situation.

10:49This is what this really was. I mean, we're talking about a super rich guy, super famous guy. Come on, man. Like, Rico, like, really? If this was a situation where he was having Cassie have sex with dudes and the dudes was paying him, that's something different. That's something different. because then he would be making money from selling her off. But that's not this. Or, like, you know, Rico, like I said, they created it to catch the mob. They couldn't catch, like, the head mob bosses. So they created the Rico, like, if this guy's standing next to you and he collected money illegally this way and this guy's standing next to you, he collected money that way, and they try to trump all of y 'all together.

11:32You know what I'm saying? And it was created to really catch the mob. You know what I'm saying? But when it came out, we was like, I was like, where's the racketeering? But where's everything that they had in the media? Where's the sex dungeon? Where's the underage kids? Where's all of the, all these tapes? And they said, oh man, all these people, where's these people that was getting raped and all that? Where's all of them? And like, it was bad. Like, we all saw the video and was like, oh, like, it's bad. So they see the video. And then like, we think it's like, oh, it's only going to get worse from here.

12:16Right, because they use that video to get people attacked the most. So it was like, it's only going to get worse from here. It's like, what else is coming out? And then the transcript's coming out. And then you start to see the interaction between him and Cass. And I'm like, this kind of sounds like him. She's like, I'm always down for a free goal. I'm always down for a free goal. To me, that's complicit. She was like, I said she was with me until she wasn't. And then I was like, that's not really Rico or everything else that they had in charge for. Like, we didn't see any evidence of that. And like, if I get into it with my ex-girls new do, that don't make me, that don't give me a racketeer in charge.

12:58Do you know what I'm saying? Like, I think that's what they were trying to say with the bombing of Kid Cudi's car. Like, oh, that's Racatino. You know what I'm saying? You sent somebody to blow up his car. I'm like, I didn't know. Yeah, that's the part that I'm getting lost on. Like you said, Mano, where is all those other topics? Where's the thing that's being at? Because you said TC. Because that's a tactic that the fans use, right? So they got the media, right? So they leaked this to the media to control the narrative. So now what happens is they tamper with the jury pool because now in the eyes of the public, he guilty.

13:35You can't tell people, you can't tell my daughter and mother that Puff don't deserve to be in jail based off of what is in the media, not even what's happening in the court. You can't tell the average person that he don't belong under the jail because if you looked at what the media was promoting, it was just this super high, heinous level of criminality that just made you feel like this dude was just the worst dude in the world. But in the courtroom... It was flimsy as fuck. Like, it was real flimsy. Like, we was all like, well, where's the racket? Like, they had to drop all that because they didn't present any evidence of anything to describe this, like, even at the bare minimum.

14:15You know what I'm saying? No, no, no. And that's why he only got convicted for the interstate transportation of prostitutes. Now they're saying that you cannot transport prostitutes from across their lines and do transactional business with them, even though this is all consensual. Even though this is consensual. Now you talk about complicit. So now you got Puff, you got the woman, and then you got the sex worker. Everybody is complicit. So now he had a one-man Rico, right? When do you ever see those? The reason why he had a one-man Rico, because he had unindicted co-conspirators. Who was the co-conspirators?

14:57The woman and the sex workers. But what did they do? They used them to testify. I mean, like, I ask my boys every day, I'm like, dude, if an ice cream Trump sells ice cream, you know, he rolls through the hood. If I buy ice cream and I'm going to be like, hey, I know some of my boys over here, they love ice cream. too you're selling ice cream did that make that make me a a sex trafficker because i'm purchasing you know what i'm saying i'm like dude you're providing a service and i'm buying it like sex trafficking i'm making you do this right and that's the thing right so when you got texts like you know i i'm always down for a a freak off and things like that and and it's it's a lot of gray area, right, coercion, like, you gotta be forcing somebody, you gotta be like, yo, you gotta do this, like, when you think of sex work, you think somebody locked up in a dungeon, you think somebody is, like, being really, like...

15:59Like, that's what I thought, like, sex trafficking was, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, you know, I'm into some freaky shit, I like seeing my girl getting bust down, and I go by a guy called The Hammer or something like that, now I'm safe trafficking because I got a team. Right, right. Like I said, like, when the indictment first came out, like I said, I know we all know that they trump your charges to get you to plead, basically to scare you. Like, nobody, like, especially a person in his position who his reputation was at stake, you know, he don't want all this coming out, you know what I'm saying?

16:40They were trying to, like, corner him, and then he was like, no, I'm going to fight him, you know what I'm saying? And even all this free golf, all this stuff coming out, what she's going to say and embarrass him and stuff. And he stood his ground. You know what I'm saying? But everybody knows the Fed's going to trump your charge. They're going to charge you more than what actually went on to scare you and stuff like that. But like you said, it was this high-profile case. They had raids at the same time by Tulsa. You know what I'm saying? LA and Miami and New York. So it's like, I'm thinking like, all right, they didn't set up these raids at the same time, so can't nobody alert each other.

17:21You know what I'm saying? They come in. So you think like... Oh, when they come, they come. They come, yeah. So I'm thinking like, they got something. And then as the trial goes on, it's like, all they're talking about is the sex. I'm like, no. And baby are you. How many of you are in the league? Like, whether it's your kink or not, you know what I'm saying? Whatever your kink is, whatever you into, you into. As long as all parties are constitutional. I was screaming, where's the parties at? Because you got to understand, they didn't change what the narrative on what a Diddy party is to the point where you had regular people seeing you in the street playing with you.

18:01Like, you may know that Hershey was at a Diddy party. You know, I've been to Diddy parties. Like, everybody was trying to go. Like, we didn't know anything about the same. But none of those, none of the freak-off shit had nothing to do with no positive shit. Right. Everybody know, like, they tried to even get, you know, King James for it. King James was like, yeah, you know, dude, you know him for having, you know, like, they's always been known. And mainstream media had, like, the best parties and stuff. And I got to say. 100%. He got it on video. He was like, all right, this is the nice party for everybody.

18:32But everybody's going to have to leave in about a couple hours. Like, he's giving his warning. Like, if you stay in here, it's going to get a little while. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think, like, everybody was like, oh, he was at a Diddy party, he was at a Diddy party. Like, no, I was never cool enough to get invited, but did I want to go at one point? Yeah, I was like, how did this shit out? No, I've been, and my point is, is that I don't know, I've never seen nothing crazy, and I don't know nobody else that did, but then when you look at what happened in the court, all of those instances of freak-offs had nothing to do with a per se party.

19:08had everything to do with a man and his personal kink his fetish, his sexual nature whatever, that's his business it's crazy, it's a evil world we live in it's an evil world we live in yeah man but hey do you think he gonna get time served he gonna serve some more see that I thought he should have got bailed because, you know, because technically... He's the first time offender. Right, he's the first offender. But the fans is dirty. They like to play this game with what they call unindicted criminal conduct. So when it's time to sentence you, even though you're not convicted of these things, they like to add in things, something else.

20:02You see what the judge said? He got convicted of prostitution. The judge held his belt because of the video with Cassie because, oh, it was violence. And the worst violence is the violence behind closed doors. What? Like, he got paid for that. He didn't get convicted of violence. Did he get convicted of violence? No, he didn't get. You see what I'm saying? And then let's be honest. Like, that happened, like, what, nine, ten years ago? Not to diminish the situation. But it was a long time ago. But it's not like he was out here terrorizing these people. So it's like when you start saying, oh, we scared for our lives.

20:42He was just home. Was he just out here looking, running down, looking for these people? Right. Like, yeah. I don't know. It's a very slippery. It's all about who's spinning the narrative. And it's all about playing with the minds of the people, man. because I realize now it ain't always about the truth. It's about the perception. Okay. When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance. Sometimes production shoots, interviews, or something I've got to travel for on a short notice. Like the time when I had the last minute trip to Denver and everything came together fast.

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24:04It's about algorithm, man. Jim understands the power of algorithm, the power of the internet, the power of conversation. Come on, man. We know who Nas is. We know what Nas did. We understand the greatness. Nas is a rap god. Yes, he is. A rap god, right? But it ain't about that, right? It's about the fact that Jim's saying, I'm better than Nas right now. He's saying he's better than Nas right now because why? Because it creates conversation. You just asked me. Yeah, yeah. This is what it's about. Yeah. So they say the rap world is like, you know, basketball or competitive sports. Like you want to say you the best.

24:57You know what I'm saying? It ain't nothing wrong with nobody telling you that you're the best. You got to love the competition. Ain't nothing wrong with nobody telling you that. If you don't feel yourself, especially in y 'all business, if you don't feel yourself like that, like pause, you know what I'm saying? then it's really you ain't never going to have no level. Like you said, such and such is better than you. You know what I'm saying? Listen, feel how you want it to feel. Nigga, don't say you better than whoever. Feel it. Go up it. You better than the world. That's how you feel. That's how you feel.

25:30Wear that. You understand? But you can feel that way privately, right? You can feel that way in the studio. I'm in the studio. We all in the studio. I'm like, man, I got to kill everybody in here. But when you say it to the public, you got to know what come back with that. And the fact that he already knew what it come with. He know it. Yeah, like, you know. He know what it come with, but it don't matter because it's about the conversation that creates, the algorithm that creates this energy that every time you turn around, now he's fighting. Right. So, like, I will say this. so like like I didn't even know like before Jim Jones came out with um Ballin I just thought he was part of the Dipset crew you know I didn't really think like like Jim Jones was a rapper and don't don't remember that run Jim Jones had when he had Ballin and uh what else am I thinking of um he did he did a diddy joint um uh the Sherry Like, like, Jim Jones, he does have, like, hits.

26:37You know what I'm saying? Like, we parted to. But, like, Gons, he was in that transition era before hip-hop really became mainstream. And when you really had to speak, like, you really had to have talent. You know what I'm saying? And Gons came out, like, lyrically. And, like, I didn't appreciate this until I was older because I was a Tupac fan. You know what I'm saying? And when you're 13 or 12, you're really impressing both. You know what I'm saying? Like, Tupac told me, don't listen to Nas and all these other rappers. So I'm like, I ain't listening to them. You know what I'm saying? And then I, like, got into a debate, and I was like, Nas?

27:16And then everybody clowned me. I was like, maybe I need to go back and go listen to this dude. And then, like, he was just, like, Nas, like we just said, he's a rap guy. Nas is a rap guy. from one of the greatest of all times. Like, Nas is a rapper. Definitely one of my favorites. Not only that, like, he was like, he's like part of those brands. Like, he's street, but he's also very intuitive. Like, Rob, I mean, excuse me, Nas is very intelligent. You know, like, Karen S1 was and Public Enemy. Like, Nas started bringing it to me, and I was just, you know. Like, Nas is very intelligent. You know what I'm saying?