Nightcap Hour 1: Eagles IN TROUBLE after LOSS to Chargers + Unc & Ocho DEMAND Kevin Stefanski to ADMIT he was WRONG + Shannon WARNS Cam Ward as WORDS BACKFIRE

21:43Yeah.

21:46Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I mean, I think I saw something they said it's the first time since 78. So I don't know. But it's a rare play. Ain't a whole lot of people have seen that play because the NFL wasn't covered like it is now. And a lot of people weren't born in 78. So somebody might have saw it, but I have never seen it. And I've seen a lot of wacky things because I've been around since 68, been watching football since 77. Well, I've been watching to understand what I remember. The first game I probably remember is that we went over to my great-grandmother's house on a Monday night to watch OJ. For real? Yep, to watch OJ.

22:20Shannon Sharpe:OJ then was playing on a Monday night, and my grandfather wanted to see OJ. And so, but look, this game really, the pressure's starting them out on the Eagles. Because they got up to this great start, Ocho. They were four or five games clear. Oh, yeah, of everybody. They must already lose another game. And the Cowboys, hold on. How many games, they've got to win. They've got to win. The Cowboys are what? Five and what? The Cowboys are 6-6-1. So, they've got to win. three of the next five yeah three of the next five well chalk it up for the Raiders they're going to win beat the Raiders so yeah both teams got four games so they're going to have to most of the Cowboys can win is ten they can be ten six and one Raiders win The Eagles win three of their last four.

23:26Shannon Sharpe:They get to 11. 11 is more than 10.

23:32Shannon Sharpe:It'd be very interesting to see if they go two and two. Yeah. Because now the Cowboys win because the Cowboys is 10 and six won, and y 'all will be 10 and seven.

23:47Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Nah, don't be talking about no, man, Unk ain't no Eagle fan. Nope, nope, I wouldn't hear that. Don't worry about what I'm a fan of. As a matter of fact, I ain't a fan of nothing. I'm central heating and cooling. That's what I am. I ain't no fan. Nah, don't be talking about that. All of a sudden, I ain't no fan. Y 'all don't have no problem when I get on Ocho Bengals. Y 'all don't have no problem when I get on these other teams. Now I see why they say cry, Eagles cry. Now I see why they say cry, Eagles cry now. Because when I'm on Ocho, man, they're killing Ocho. When I get on all these other teams, oh, y 'all, y 'all, key, key, key.

24:26Shannon Sharpe:Man, ump went in. Ump went in. Ump was on one tonight. Now, oh, whoa, whoa. Now, ump don't mess with the Eagles. Ump mess with everybody. Y 'all know what I do. Y 'all didn't have no problem when I went in on the Ravens yesterday and went in on boys. Y 'all were key, key, key. I saw all y 'all retweeting it. so so how much faith how much faith you have in the in the eagles the rest of the season scale of one to ten honestly ocho yeah five oh so you you on the fence five okay okay okay because they still haven't figured out defensively fine yeah but see here's the problem what happens when your offense puts you in harm's way you see the defense can ball out and the offense don't put them in harm's way okay but what happens when you put me on a short field you put me on a short field guy walks out there i don't get another yard i got a field goal right see that's the problem that you run into

25:29Shannon Sharpe:yeah and plus ocho look we look at the commander we say with the commanders but that's a division game yeah you know how division games are it don't matter right and misery loves company what washington going after the last game of the season Well, guess what? I'm taking you with me. You got ice cream and I ain't got none. I'm going to knock yours out your hand. We both ain't got none. Hey. I'm just saying. We're going to have a good time. But now, look. The defense is outstanding. Their defense is going to keep them in a lot of games. Playing really well. I mean, think about it, Ochoa. It took overtime to get to 22.

26:08Shannon Sharpe:It took overtime to get to 22. As a matter of fact, they took the last drive to get to 19. So that's how well the Eagles defense is still playing. They had a quarterback. Justin Herbert had 139 yards passing. Now, they did give up 160-something yards rushing. But a couple of those runs came in overtime, Ocho, when the first play of overtime, Herbert kept the ball. Remember, he picked up, like, what, 13 yards on that one. So some of that came in overtime. But when you look at this and you see 12 or 26, we held them to under 50%. Way under. I mean, that looked like in the mid-40s, 12 or 26, I don't know off the top of my head.

26:54Shannon Sharpe:439 yards, Ocho? Yeah, absolutely. Man, I can live with that. Listen, hold on. Another tall tale on how well the Eagles defense played here. Forget playing tonight, how well they played all season long. Correct. You had goddamn five turnovers. Five turnovers most of the time. And you lose by three. Man, this. Five turnovers and you lose by three, Ocho. Let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, we have three. What if we have two? Let's just say we have two turnovers. You win this game. Easily. And that's the problem that you have because it doesn't matter how well a particular unit play, especially your offense, your defense plays.

27:37Shannon Sharpe:If your offense turns the ball over and puts them on harm's way, so let's just say, like I said, just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, we turn the ball over and we don't allow them to get a first down. The guy walks on the field and kicks a field goal. That's three points. That's three points that our offense gave up. Because we didn't allow a first down. We didn't allow them to gain a yard. It's just tough. I mean, AJ had 13 targets, 6 catches. Dallas Goddard had 10 targets, 8 catches. Schmitty had 8 targets, 4 catches. You know what I don't want to happen? Even though they had a game like tonight, I don't want Jalen to get gun shy.

28:20Don't get gun shy. Keep throwing that thing. He already gun shy.

28:25Shannon Sharpe:That's why he won't throw in the tight windows. But listen, what I saw on that 3rd and 15, when he thread that goddamn needle and he made that anticipatory throw, he can do that all the time. He can do it. If you can do it right there in that moment where the game is on the goddamn line, the game is on the line. You need that play. If you can do it then, you can do it consistently. How many half court shots can you make? How many half court shots can you make? If I go out there and you first try, you make it. What are you going to say? You know what? I made it there. I can make it all the time.

29:01Shannon Sharpe:You believe that? That's a good one. that's a little bit of an exaggeration. Especially, Ocho, think about what you said. In that moment, when you throw caution to the wind and you feel like, well, I ain't got nothing to lose. Now, it was that moment in the ball game that he had to do that. In the first quarter, he's going to be a little more tentative. He knows if I don't get this, Ocho, it's fourth and something. He ain't had no choice, but let it go. I mean, that's as good a throw as we've seen Jalen Hurts make this year. Hold on. That was the best throw. As you said, given the circumstances, third and 15, overtime, backs against the wall, we're down three.

29:52Shannon Sharpe:We don't want to be fourth and 15. Yeah. At worst, I mean, look, if he takes a five-throw, give me something. I don't want to be fourth and 15. Let's just say if I'm fourth and five, I can live with that. but he got the whole shebang I thought for a second I was like Smitty might come out the back side I thought he was I thought he was Smitty might come out the back side all it takes is for that safety to take the wrong angle you take the wrong angle it's curtains

30:21Shannon Sharpe:look they got their work cut out for the Chargers had to win this game the Chargers don't win this game it's basically curtains for them because I don't think they can do enough Well, they could have because it's four games left. They'd have been 8-4. The Broncos are 11-2. They played the Broncos the last game of the season, so the Broncos theoretically could play them, and the Chargers would win the tiebreaker if they both finished at 12 wins, Ocho, because they would have swept the series. So they owned the tiebreaker. Right now, the Broncos own the tiebreaker over the Patriots because they beat the Raiders, and the Raiders beat the Pats at the beginning of the season.

30:58Shannon Sharpe:So this thing is not over yet. It's a long ways from being over. but the Eagles really got their work. They really dug themselves a hole with this one, Ocho. And the Cowboys like, damn, just when we – every time we try to step in front of the train, Eagles, you pull us back off the tracks. We see the train coming.

31:20Shannon Sharpe:We right there letting the train go on and run over. The Eagles say, nah, not just yet, and pull us off the track.

31:28Shannon Sharpe:But who did the Chargers play next?

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35:36Shannon Sharpe:Well, who they got? Who they got? They got the Chiefs. They got the Texans. Chiefs Chiefs Oh they got the Chiefs They got the Cowboys They got the Texans And they got the Broncos Oh my god Well what a way to end it If the Eagles And you know the Eagles The Eagles got seven sacks You know the Broncos defense Chomping at the bit Yeah They definitely coming They coming And that's in Denver That game's in Denver Justin Herbert needs to take care of that left hand too He was hurting He got to take care of that left hand Ocho, because the thing is, Ocho, you do everything you can not to fall down on it.

36:17Yeah.

36:18Shannon Sharpe:And it's hard. And it's hard. It's hard not to. It's hard to protect the ball. It's hard to do this because, hey, you saw them guys swiping at it. Mm-hmm. Hey, it's so funny. Hey, on the injury report, hey, he got a hurt ankle. Hey, anytime they run to the right and watching them hand off with the right hand, hey, that look funny as hell. Oh, yeah. Yeah. yep or the backhand handoff but look i think this is what the nfl wanted that's why everybody has to play a division game the last game of the season because normally what were guys doing ocho guys were sitting guys out ain't nobody playing yeah nah bro you got to play now yeah you don't have a choice ain't nobody got no division you look at the a you look at the nfc west the 49ers Seahawks the Rams and you got who else and Seattle that thing coming down that thing coming down to the last month the last game last game yep that's what you want you look at the situation with the AFC North yeah you got the Steelers you got the Ravens and the Bengals say hey we ain't done yet nah hey I'm glad you know I'm glad you know they done but I'm saying they just said no you said you said exactly You said exactly how you feel.

37:37Shannon Sharpe:Even the AFC South with the Houston Texans and Jags. And you see, they brought Phillip Rivers in. 44-year-old Phillip Rivers. Well, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Now, I'm in impeccable shape. If Phillip Rivers can come back and play, I mean, the Bengals should go and give me a shot. Ocho, y 'all play totally different position, and Phillip Rivers has never relied on athleticism. You see Phillip Rivers up close. He ain't got much legs. He got 10 kids. He ain't got much legs left, Ocho. Damn. He got grandkids? Yeah. Damn. Yeah, yeah. Hey. I got grandkids, but hell, I'm 57.

38:24Yeah.

38:25Shannon Sharpe:I ain't had no grandkids at 44. I got grandkids, I got a grandchild Do you? Yeah Damn Yeah For the game, one week after undergoing surgery To repair a fracture on a non-throwing hand Herbert led his team in rushing And had put up 25 yards total He rushed for 66 yards, Ocho On 10 carries He gained 20 of that on the game-time drive Late in the fourth quarter I mean the days of it's guys are mobile now. Guys, I mean, you look at that division. Mahomes got legs. Bo Nix definitely got legs. Herbert got legs. I mean, the days of Ocho used to be, you know, you have one or two guys that was mobile and if you were mobile, that was a strike against you.

39:18Shannon Sharpe:They downgraded you if you were mobile. Now, you got to have it. Yeah, the game has evolve, huh? It's not like the same way where quarterbacks were statues back there and you were a prototypical drop-back passing quarterback. That is not what it is today, but if you are that, then you have to make up for that and be special in so many other areas to make up for your lack of production with your legs. You're right about that, Ocho. You know what? When you're right, you ain't wrong. Ocho, we got some good news. Oh, whoa, wait wait wait wait let me get comfortable let me get comfortable oh let me take man my shirt so tight hold on okay okay go ahead get to me we got a great dude the good news is our awards came in the bad news is they sent me your awards come on man hey listen we not hey don't come on man now now you wanna come on man chat y 'all here come on man come on man no it don't come on man now Hey, let me tell you something.

40:22$59 ,000. It's going to be 2020. Listen, I just, listen, hold on.

40:32Hey, see? Hey, you must have forgot. The same way I broke in your house and got these two, the next time you got to have a sign-in or you got to do a, you know, go somewhere for LaPortier, I'd come back in your house again. They don't make me none. So you could do two things. You can send me my awards

40:51Shannon Sharpe:No unfortunately I'm not going to be able to do that $5 ,900 for shipping and handling Hey Unk listen I love you to death right But I'm going to tell you one thing Boy you cruising for a bruising boy Oh Joe look at this Oh that thing is shiny too Look at that Look at that your award He got two of the face Hey Unk Hey Unk Huh and you you cruising for a bruising you hear me no no no here it is right here yeah yeah hey let me see hold it hold it up again god the a is shiny hey that's that's real gold look at what they say what they say chat what it say on there i can't see unc i only got one eye it says 2025 listeners choice award chad johnson nightcap shay shay media oh that's me 2025 uh listeners choice award chad johnson nightcap shay shay media hey hey hey i'm so happy i'm so proud i don't know what you're happy for hey hey i'm so happy because you know through through life in life you know i ain't really never won nothing no you know being here on the show and you give me the opportunity to be on the show this is my first time winning multiple awards back to back because i couldn't do it on the field so this means so much to me that's why you need to send me my award because i can get upset i can get emotional about my awards who would you like who would you like because if uh who would you like to get would you like for a french fry to get one yeah matter of fact i want one for all my kids unfortunately you only got two so french fry gear one who do you want the other one to go to uh you know what i'm gonna let i'm gonna let the two babies i'm gonna let uh cha-cha and kennedy split the other one okay yeah i like i like that hey but aren't you a real one so you're gonna send it to me so i can give it to him for christmas no not gonna be able to do that don't you i mean as much as i mean it pays me to say that i'm not but I'm not that's alright that's alright I'll tell you one thing I'm going to put these in the safe deposit box in the bank that ain't going to work they definitely ain't going to put that in there hold on, it's my safe deposit box what you mean they're not going to put that in there what kind of safe deposit box you got that's going to fit that big ass of all I think it's a 16 by 20 or 20 by 24 yeah yeah what bank you who you bank with i don't know okay okay i like that hey you saw the you saw the movie the town yeah i saw the town okay we're going ahead and put it in massachusetts yeah go ahead and put it in there let me show you how to get it out nah you want to be a uh inside man with Clive Owen and Denzel and God damn.

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48:35Shannon Sharpe:All right, Ocho, but here's the deal. The Browns have finally named Shador their starting quarterback for the rest of the season. No more week-to-week bull jive. Here's what Stefanski had to say about it today. I think all along, Mary Kay, as you know, with our quarterbacks and our young players, you're always making sure that you're making the right decisions for our guys. And I think he has constantly and consistently gotten better in each one of these games and how he's approached this game. He's been working very hard, so I feel good about where his development is heading. He knows there are always going to be plays that he can be better and those type of things.

49:14Shannon Sharpe:but he's very intentional about getting better each and every game he's out there. Kevin, hi. Was it a mistake not to start Shadr earlier? Yeah, I'm not going to get into those type of things, Tony. I'm obviously focused on what's in front of us.

49:37Shannon Sharpe:I mean, that's a good thing. It's funny how he can get better when he can actually get on the field and show you what he can do. Yes, sir. on the side flipping the ball and going through his drop backs when he ain't throwing to nobody. Look, Ocho, I want to hear what you got to say on this. I was just going to say it's a good thing. There's no more confusion. You're not looking over your shoulder. You can go right through. You can lock in and do what you need to do. Preparation. You say it all the time. I've said it all the time. That goes for anybody, whether it's sports, whether it's life in general.

50:07When preparation meets opportunity, when opportunity meets preparation, This is what you get. You get games like this. So the more he gets to gel and build that continuity and chemistry with his offense and his receivers and his offensive linemen, the better he's going to look on the field. And just to think about it, if I think about what he would look like, if he looked like this in his third game, what do you think he would look like if he'd been playing all season long? There's nothing we can do about that. All we can do is think about and start from where we are right now. The game you had last week, what you want to do is you want to build off of that.

50:41Build off that and continue to go forward. Finish the season off strong. So they have no choice. So they have no choice. Even if you might be auditioning for another team. Listen, we can take him. But if he can do what he's doing right now for the Cleveland Browns organization, imagine if we were able to bring him in here where we have a better supporting cast to put around him. So I think he's auditioning still. If he's not going to be in Cleveland next year, he's auditioning for another job somewhere else where he can be the starter and not have to worry.

51:12Shannon Sharpe:I agree. Can Stefanski not say sure? Is S-H words out of his vocabulary? Because why can't he just say the man? Why can't he say the man's name? Why does he say when we're dealing with young players? I think Shadour's regressed very, very well. You know why? I like what I've seen. Even though when he wasn't playing, you can tell a guy that's being very attentive, the guy that's very attention to detail. You see the way he takes copious notes when he's in meetings. You see the way he goes about his business at practice, although he wasn't getting reps with the starters, and he didn't start getting reps until later in the season.

51:54Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. It's okay. Excuse me. It is okay to admit we made a mistake. Right. It's okay to say, you know what? Yeah, maybe a thing looked different. We all have the luxury of hindsight. site. It's a magnificent science. We have the luxury of knowing today what we didn't know yesterday. I get that and I get your questions and all your questions are very very valid. But if I were to answer her question, if I were to ask the reporter's question in honesty, now I look bad. This organization look bad. And I don't want that. You see what you just did? Did you see how you answered that question so eloquently?

52:37not only did you answer eloquently, you threw a word in there. I don't know what the hell it meant. So that's why I raised my finger. I want you to go back to that because what kind of notes did he take again?

52:50Shannon Sharpe:Copious. Hey, you been the other thesaurus, huh? The thing is, people have a hard time. And I get it. It's hard because we don't like to be wrong. And if we're wrong, we damn sure don't want to admit that we're wrong. But I think it shows growth. I think it shows maturity. That when we're wrong and we're mad or we're woman enough to say that I was wrong, that wish we could have done something differently. Whatever the reasons were, I was wrong. And you have to be man or woman enough to say that I was wrong in order for you to sincerely, in order for you to have growth. Now, if he didn't want to answer, I think we know the answer, Chad.

53:35Shannon Sharpe:I think we know the answer. Why he didn't want to answer that? Was it a mistake not to start him? Because I would like to think their record would be better than what it was. Now, it could be, Chad. I mean, now we're sitting here saying they could have won probably two more games given that Shador. Maybe they don't win no more games. Maybe they have the exact – the identical record. We'll never know.

54:00Shannon Sharpe:But it's hard to get somebody to admit when they're wrong. and we see in real time what's actually happening. We see it and a whole lot of guys. Think about it. He's got probably, I think, the fourth or the fifth most passing yards by a rookie quarterback that wasn't taken in the first round. That's crazy. That's crazy.

54:30Shannon Sharpe:I'm glad he's getting an opportunity to start. the teams that he's up the Bears, the 9-4, they're playing in Chicago the next game, the Bills, 9-4 playoff team, Steelers at home, the division leader and then they finish on the road at your Bengals which could have some playoff implications for the Bengals, obviously Cleveland's not going anywhere, it also all depends on, what would they try to do Ocho, did they start like this because they tried to get draft they tried to get position for the draft what what what was what was it what were they hoping because if you know joe flacco is what joe flacco is you know now i mean the guy's 40 plus years old uh you know what he is he's streaky he'll win your game or two and but he's always been and always has been always a turnover machine that's what he is yeah i um i i have no idea your guess is as good as mine we've been trying to figure out what the Browns have been doing with their organization for a very long time, not just this year, but the past 30-some years, especially at the quarterback position.

55:36They haven't got it right in a very long time, and still to this day, still to this day, they still haven't answered that question. And the one that looks like it might be promising, they still have an issue with that. So it looks like what they're trying to do, based on some of the things that we've seen, some of the things that we've heard come out of that locker room or that organization in general, they still don't think the person that is at the helm right now is the answer. They don't. Yeah, I mean,

56:10Shannon Sharpe:and I really hate to feel this way, but a part of me is like, yeah, we're going to let him start the rest of the season. Oh, Bears, Bills, Steelers, Bengals. If I was to do it, I was like, nah, I'm good. I already showed y 'all what I can do. Put Dylan in there. no matter of fact I want him to play against the Bears I want him to play against the Bills I want him to play against the Steelers because I want him to show that I'm a competent quarterback and I can compete at the highest level as a rookie if given the right amount of time to prepare I want him I want him to have but this is not a mistake they picked these games why couldn't you name his ass the start of three games ago why was it week to week because every you know what every time he don't want to ask a question he always say well i don't want to get into that right i don't want to get into that because they ask you they ask him before which is should do or go to start well i don't want to get into that let's look at the film and all that bro you know wait wait no no no that's not true that's not true because after the first game and they asked him is he going to start the next game he wanted to see if he could do it again.

57:20What is he going to look like again? If he look bad, what's the first thing you think Sophanci was going to do? He's going to put Dylan Gabriel back in there. That's why he had to... Alright, I don't want to answer that right now. I don't know. But Shadour gave you no choice. Man, could you imagine after you played this game? After you played this last game and the game before that? If he was the bench, you bench Shadour, you talk about losing your locker room? And listen, at that point, I guarantee you one of the veterans would have spoke out. I guarantee you one of the veterans would have spoke out.

57:54They probably are already speaking out. It ain't get out in the public yet.

58:00Shannon Sharpe:No. No. I mean, you know, I think the thing is, look, the last thing that you want to do because Dylan is still your teammate, it's not his fault. You can never blame a player for an organization or a coach's decision. I can't get mad at you because they put his ass in there. I can't get mad at him because this organization drafted him before me. That ain't got nothing to do with me. I wish him the best. I'm going to support him as best I possibly can. I couldn't get mad at the guys they took before me. It wasn't their fault. But I tell you, in a couple of years, you're going to wish you, like, damn, I'm glad we took this guy in the seventh round.

58:39Shannon Sharpe:We probably should have taken him early. Yeah. So I'd never begrudge the guy because they didn't draft themselves. Dylan Gabriel didn't draft himself. All I'm happy now, and for me, I'm glad they came to this conclusion. Yeah. Did it take longer than I think it should have? Yes. I think most people believe that it took longer than what it should have. But at the end of the day, they got it right. I wouldn't say it took longer than it should have. Dylan Gabriel was their third-round pick. Dylan Gabriel was their third-round pick, and he was the successor to Joe Flacco. So when Joe Flacco moved on, automatically, Dylan Gabriel goes into the lineup, and it's time to see what he can do.

59:24It didn't go well. It didn't go well. Now it's Shadur's time to see what they can do. Yep. That's all.

59:30Shannon Sharpe:And he's only going to get better. I mean, he's going to have some growing pains. I don't see him throwing for 364 and 4, having four touchdowns every game. But I tell you what, all I need to see is improvement. All I need to see, and I saw some stuff late in the ball game that I saw the mistakes that he made earlier that he self-corrected. That's when you know a guy gets it. When you can self-correct on the fly, Ocho? Mm-hmm. Oh, he get it. Yeah. Oh, he definitely gets it. All we want to see, I mean, excuse me, in that organization, as a head coach, as a GM, as teammates, not only improving week to week, but giving us a chance.

1:00:14Giving us a chance so we can compete week in and week out. That's all you want. That's all you can ask for. Consistency. How consistent can you be offensively to give us a chance? That's it. Yeah.

1:00:29Shannon Sharpe:So if you do your ball, pick it up and run with it, bro. Do what you do. You got four games. these last four games is about you know what we got our guy we got our guy let's go in the draft and get a an offensive lineman a receiver a linebacker or no I like this linebacker that rookie linebacker number 49 he hail maybe get somebody go opposite of a I don't know but Shador's job is to show them they don't need a quarterback. Yeah. That's his job. Yep. And then build a team how they best see. I don't know if we should trust them to build a team. But I just think the thing is, Ocho, is that we just show them that you got the right guy.

1:01:26Shannon Sharpe:Because he said it. I want to show them what they've been looking for. I'm what they've been searching. They've turned over a lot of stones.

1:01:45And, you know, sometimes, Ocho,

1:01:48Shannon Sharpe:you got to kiss a lot of dragons to find your princess. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So they've had 35, they've had damn near as many quarterbacks as we've had U.S. presidents. Yeah. But Shadour says it starts with me. it stops with me no more you're gonna have peace and prosperity for the next decade I like it I like it hey matter of fact yeah

1:02:22I'm wondering if the chat heard about that too you heard about damn this is sad for me Mr. Cup you heard about Mr. Cup

1:02:36no yeah man his wife left him oh lord here we go yeah now he's a solo cup i do it with something

1:02:51Shannon Sharpe:i do it with something oh cho there might be some trouble brewing where in tennessee after the titans win Cam Ward told the media postgame, it feels good to win. But you know what? But you know, winning still hides stuff. There's a lot of flaws that we've got to continue to get over personally and just as a team. And we've got to just come next week with the right mindset. When asked about how badly they needed to win, he said, I really didn't need a win. I treat the wins the same. I treat the losses the same. There's always something I have to do to do better. I wake up tomorrow, I'm going to do the same thing I did last week, try and get better.

1:03:36Shannon Sharpe:104.5 The Zone morning, Ramon and Will, Titans sideline reporter, Will Bowling, shared a story from the team playing on the ride home Sunday evening. On the plane home, Ocho, ride home, Arden Key gets on the intercom and says, y 'all enjoy this. Don't listen to what Cam said. Y 'all enjoy this. It's hard to win in this league. Enjoy it. Other Titans media member unhappy with bowling shared this story. Surely the team is unhappy as well. There's a good chance he will not be on the plane moving forward. Hey, I'm confused. So.

1:04:18Cam, they won the game. Yes. Now, what did Cam say exactly? Give it to me in layman's terms.

1:04:27Shannon Sharpe:uh he they asked him how badly did they need to win okay i really didn't need it i treat wins the same i treat losses the same there's always something that i have to do better i wake up tomorrow i'm going to do the same thing i did last week try to get better okay so he was even keel about it he wasn't high he wasn't low he was just even keel about it but i think you got to choose your words right you got to choose your words wisely what you mean you didn't need to win. Bro, you had lost like 15 games in a row. Yeah, you got to choose your words wisely. See, I think the thing is, he said stuff that Tom Brady would say after five Super Bowls.

1:05:06Shannon Sharpe:He said stuff that, bro, I get it. I get it. Oh, man. Hey, I stay even keeled. Well, you'll find out. You'll find out. It's hard to win in this league. R.N. Key's right. Now, I don't agree with the sideline reporter because what happens on the plane stays on the plane. What you see in the hotel room you don't report that

1:05:30listen they ain't had much to report so he ran with that one of course they ain't had much to report this season so

1:05:36Shannon Sharpe:but for that kid to do that I'm telling you I told you this when he said we asked I'm telling you he better be careful I told you when he said what he said for this gentleman to do what he did you see what happened already don't y 'all listen to Cam I told you Ocho I'm not telling you what somebody told me I'm telling you what being a leader is in a locker room being a leader a man amongst men I'm telling you he better be careful yeah you gotta choose your words wisely especially at the quarterback position you have to be very PC you got to be very PC and that that's a skill too it is that's it's a skill to be able to do that you know to be a quarterback and be very savvy when it comes to the media and knowing how to answer questions without really answering them answer questions without really answering them hey politicians are really good at that ask the president a question he'll tell you he'll talk to you for for for 50 minutes about everything else except but what you're asking about but the one thing we do know everybody yes we needed this win we needed to get the stench of losing out of this room you don't say oh I didn't really need I didn't really need a win yes you do everybody needs it that's why you work so damn hard now I start to question myself why are we doing all this we ain't winning what are we doing wrong right what am I doing wrong yeah and when you win after not winning for we didn't always win Super Bowls every year I've had a five six game losing streak I've had long losing streaks boy when ain't nothing like it feel like you ain't feel like you won the Super Bowl because you work put all that time in Ocho to win and then when you don't when it doesn't bear fruit when that tree doesn't bear fruit, you're like, damn.

1:07:47Shannon Sharpe:Okay.

1:07:50Shannon Sharpe:And then when you win, oh my goodness, after losing?

1:07:59Shannon Sharpe:That's just me. Hey. But you know, he probably, he won all, you know, he won in college and, you know, he's been winning, so take winning for granted.

1:08:12Shannon Sharpe:to each his own. But I'm telling you, you better be careful. I told you this when he said what he said. You said, oh, okay. Oh, you better listen to me now. I told you. I said, Ocho, if I tell you grass will turn to cheese, I want you to quit nightcap. Start hustling crackers. Now, I ain't telling you. Now, y 'all say this. He better be careful.

1:08:38Shannon Sharpe:You get a little grace because you're the quarterback. you're the first pick in the draft. Yeah. But those guys watching now, they watching. And you can't fool them. You can fool the reporters. You can fool the fans. But them guys that see your ass eight, nine hours a day, Ocho? Yeah. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, six months a year? You ain't fooling them. You're not fooling them. Yeah, but he has to be here's what interim coach Mike McCoy on Monday said when asked about Cam's mindset yeah you want to enjoy every win in this business it's never easy it's tough to win in the NFL week in and week out but it's just he's a competitor and Cam wants to be great he wants to play great every week and there are times that if he don't if if you don't play that way he's not going to sugarcoat it sometimes what he says is how he plays in and his opinion on things but it's about winning that's the number one thing.

1:09:41Shannon Sharpe:Rookie Marcus Harris spoke for the young core. He's like, I think that Cam's mindset is it was a good mindset, but then, as you know, some of the other guys expressing how difficult it is to win. And the other part is understood, but I think it's just holding ourselves to a high standard, and that's what it was about. Ocho. Well, you met the standard. You won. Yeah. You met the standard. If the standard is to win and you win, I get it. You don't accept things in a loss. I mean, in a win that you win in a loss. In a loss, yes. We understand that. But you have to build to that. That's something we build to, Ocho.

1:10:25Shannon Sharpe:When you're not used to winning, there's a reason why the Titans got the number one pick in the draft, Ocho. Because what did they do the previous last year? Win. Yeah. go ahead what were you gonna say no that that was it that was it you you're right you're right you're right i mean there's really nothing i can say uh uh about that i mean you just you got to be able to navigate it a little better a little better he'll get a little savvier savv savvy savvier when it comes to talking to the media and answering his questions but he's been a rough year for them boys over there man in tennessee boy A lot about playing quarterback is how I navigate your wordplay.

1:11:09Shannon Sharpe:Everything can't be blunt. How you, like, how, like, me and you might talk one way to the barbershop. And then when I get, it's a whole different tune. Right. That's how you have to be as a quarterback. Now, I know people, hey, you be yourself, be yourself. You can't be yourself. Yeah. I mean, well, no, not in that position. At that position, you can't be yourself. Now, you're a receiver. You can be yourself.

1:11:42Shannon Sharpe:Xavier Woods also talked about it today. We also told him, wins are hard to come by in this league. You celebrate all of it. No matter who it is or who it's against, you celebrate all wins. There's no such thing as a sorry win. A win is a win at the end of the day. That's two teammates and his coach.

1:12:02hey whether you win ugly or whether you win pretty the goal at the end of the day is the win and they haven't won much this year so

1:12:17Shannon Sharpe:that's it that's it that's it Ocho look like I said if I could give this man any advice and he probably don't want any advice I said Cam you have to be very meticulous with your words oh that's another big word huh wait he had to be very what meticulous with your words because what you fail to realize is that you everybody is listening to what you say they're listening to how you say it they listen to the tone they listen to the voice inflection they're listening for the cadence of what you say that's the part about speaking see people think A lot of people can talk Very few people can speak There's a difference between the two Don't let that go over your head I like that's a good one right there

1:13:10Shannon Sharpe:That's a good one Knowing what to say Knowing how to say it Knowing when to say it Knowing what to say And where And who is in the presence

1:13:27Shannon Sharpe:but like I said he's young he's young but you have to you know I know it's boring man I want to be I get boring but when you're in that position it's okay to be boring it's really okay to be boring let your play be extravagant let your play be flamboyant you right here man i'm enjoying this one it's been a long time man it's been a long time since this locker room has been exuberant to be excited you see how these guys are behaving hold on when it says the locker room been what make it out of here well you been in your bag tonight boy meticulous exuberant copious let me write this shit down hold on

1:14:30but

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