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15:19Shannon Sharpe:So he's like, I'm cool. And plus he understands like the Tom Brady. Tom's like, look, yeah, I could be the highest paid, but at what expense? Because I'm trying to collect rings. And the best way to collect that is to have money so I can keep a Travis Kelsey. I can keep a Chris Jones. I can keep a tree Smith. I can keep some of these guys in order to build my roster. And so we're not so top heavy. We're paying a handful of guys and we're not able to build a complete roster. But what Sam Donald has been able to do, the turnaround that he's enjoyed, I don't know in my time of really following the NFL, basically since about 76, 76, 77, I've never seen a story like this.

16:00Shannon Sharpe:I've never seen a guy. I mean, he was basically a reclamation project. He was on the trash heap. The Jets got rid of him after three years. Carolina got rid of him. And he goes to San Fran for a year. And think about what he said. He said, I learned a lot in San Francisco. I learned a lot in San Francisco. Then he goes to Minnesota, parlays that, goes 14-3. That's what I tell guys, Joe. I tell you guys, oh, Joe, you know I've said this. The team that you're playing for, they're not the only one that pay players. You're auditioning for the other 31 teams. and I need guys to understand that you think well oh man so it's just like if you're a young lady or a young guy your girlfriend ain't the only one that got eyes your guy ain't the only one that got eyes and just because they might not want to be with you or what might want to be in this relationship long term that doesn't mean somebody else won't and so I just need more guys to think about that because sometimes they get caught up in the thing it's the end all be all where I'm at and it's not.

17:04Shannon Sharpe:All 32 teams pay. All 32 teams have a scouting department and they watch tape and that tape don't lie. When you put that tape in, that tape don't know what position you play. It don't know how much money you make and it doesn't know where you came from. All it does is record what it sees, Ocho. So what you put on tape, that's your resume. That's who you are. Yeah.

17:30Joe Johnson:You know, to me, obviously, I'm not sure where Sam Donald ranks as far as pay goes. But after winning the Super Bowl, I would love for them to give him some of the pay raise. But, yeah, not a pay raise where it depletes being able to sign other players. I think Tyreek Willen is up. I think there are some other – I don't think he comes back, Ocho.

17:49Shannon Sharpe:He's going to get too much money. And you got Spoon. What you going to do with Spoon? What you going to do with JSN? Oof. All of them got – You know JSN's in his third year, Ocho. He just finished in his third year.

18:03Joe Johnson:So they want to do it now, this offseason. Spoon. You know Spoon is the money.

18:07Shannon Sharpe:If I'm not mistaken, I think Spoon and JSN came in together, didn't he?

18:11Joe Johnson:Yeah, Devin Witherspoon might be up too. So he has to take care of them. Tyreek Wooden, he's going to hit him across the head on the market. He's going to hit him across the head on the open market. Outside, I mean, just give him – I understand just looking at Sam Donald and understanding the situation that he's in. And the fact that he has a competent organization around him, a competent GM, they're going to continue to build and put pieces around him. His ceiling is extremely high. And he's young. His ceiling is extremely, very, yeah, he's young. He's fairly young. So I'm excited for him. I'm excited for the Seahawks.

18:45Joe Johnson:They found their quarterback of the future. All they have to do now is continue to put pieces around him. As long as he stays injury-free, damn, Seahawks are always going to be competing coming out of the NFC.

18:55Chad Johnson:But y 'all know the more you win, the more money you got to spend.

18:59Shannon Sharpe:It is. And the more people, think about it. You already lost your offensive coordinator. He gone. Just like that, Ocho. Yeah. No, really. When you win, everybody wants winners. So they come rent your hen house to get your chicken that's laying golden eggs. That's how it works. So you start to lose a lot of players. The more you win, the more they rob you. Now, Will and I will say this. He gets lazy sometimes. He got beat for a touchdown because he got lazy. He got lined up late, didn't he, Ocho? And then he bulljibed, and then he realized that Mac Hollis was already buying.

19:37Joe Johnson:Yeah.

19:38Shannon Sharpe:You cannot have a – the man that hesitated – I had a coach tell me this. He said the man that hesitated is beat. In the NFL, and Joe, you know this in basketball, if you hesitate, Ocho, you beat. Because the margin is so small. so small in order to win go ahead

19:56Joe Johnson:I'm going to tell you hey Joe there's a reason why in football they call it it's a game of inches but that's all it takes Joe one mistake one mishap one false step one hesitation and you beat and you think about the NFL I'm speaking from a receiver standpoint and a DB standpoint like Joe wide open is this this is wide open Yeah. Joe, I swear for God, this is wide open. So most of the time, quarterbacks have to throw players open, you know, and sometimes you see busted coverage or stuff like that. But understanding when people say it's a game of vengeance, it's simply that. And most of the time, it comes down to three, maybe four plays out of 70 plays in four quarters.

20:39Joe Johnson:Yeah. That makes a difference. If you're between the man and the ball, that's open.

20:44Shannon Sharpe:Yep, basically. So if the DB on my hip, Joe, I'm open. If he's right here and I'm here, I'm open. This is college where you're running Scott free and you five, six. No. Unless it's a busted coverage, that ain't happening.

20:59Joe Johnson:That's about the only time.

21:00Shannon Sharpe:That ain't happening.

21:01Joe Johnson:Yeah, that's about the only time. And Joe, there's a few receiving, Joe.

21:06Chad Johnson:Yeah.

21:06Joe Johnson:There's a few, and I'm talking about a handful, maybe two or three, that can create that kind of separation where it's like, well, God damn, he wide open. Now, it ain't too many. I'm talking about off the muscle, Joe. You know how you call for ISO?

21:20Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

21:21Joe Johnson:I don't want no help.

21:22Chad Johnson:Right.

21:22Joe Johnson:And every time, you finna give him that work. Josie, I want that one four.

21:25Shannon Sharpe:Give me that one four. Now, go on. Get out of here.

21:28Joe Johnson:Skid around. Skid down. Come on now. Back up. It's about three of them, Joe. Hey, I don't need the offensive coordinator help. Hey, I don't need you to put me in motion. I don't need you to condense my split. Line me up to yours outside the numbers. I'm finna go to work.

21:43Chad Johnson:You finna get money.

21:44Joe Johnson:Man, get money. It's only about three of them, Joe. That's it.

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22:18Joey Porter Jr.:We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm going to ask that man for directions. Hi there! We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.

22:28Ernest Jones:Well, you're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this here road. Nah, I'm just kidding. Let me get my phone out.

22:34Joey Porter Jr.:How is there signal out here?

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22:49Joey Porter Jr.:Actually, can you pull up the way to a T-Mobile store?

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23:52Shannon Sharpe:Joey Porter Sr. had a lot to say about Big Ben Roethlisberger on Cam Hayward's podcast. Let's take a listen, Ocho and Joe, what he had to say. He broke the brotherhood, then Seven definitely broke the brotherhood because like...

24:07Joe Johnson:That's the one I don't understand as much.

24:09Shannon Sharpe:The seven dude that did, that we don't talk about, is crazy. Like, out of anybody should talk, he should never grab a microphone and really talk still a business. Because if we talk and still a business, his ass is foul of all foul. Like the shit that he did is foul of all foul. He's not a good teammate. Won a Super Bowl with him, but the person, he's just not a good teammate. Like he knows that anybody in the steel building knows that, but we protected him because I've only won one Superbowl and that was my quarterback. So do I love my quarterback? Yeah. But is he a good person?

24:50Joe Johnson:No. Hey, um, what's going on over there? Uh, they, they need to have a meeting or something, uh, something, uh, uh, coming to come into God moment. This, this is the first, listen, obviously we heard Depot and his frustrations when the Steelers Steelers weren't playing well, and he voiced his frustration with Mike Tomlin. We've heard other players. We heard Ben Roethlisberger be – he chastised Mike Tomlin as well. And now Joey Porter Sr. coming to the defense of Mike Tomlin saying, well, hell, Ben wasn't a great teammate, and there are things that happened. There were skeletons in the closet, and we didn't let anybody know.

25:27Joe Johnson:And it's getting ugly over there, Joe.

25:28Shannon Sharpe:No, they didn't let anybody know. They didn't talk about it because, Ocho, it's going to be tough for Ben to get in on the first ballot. there's a lot I'm telling you everybody knew some of the things that were going on that didn't get reported me I'm not an insider I ain't looking to put nobody personal business on blame

25:50Joe Johnson:you knew what the hell I've been at okay okay okay

25:58Shannon Sharpe:so I just think the thing is look I've only had a small interaction with Ben I met him in his rookie season he, my brother, and I had an appearance on Amelia Island. If I'm not mistaken, the Super Bowl was in Jacksonville that year. With that being said, I'm not surprised. And if you go back and look, one of the first guys that commented under what he said was Mason Rudolph. And then he had a big bullseye. There it is right there in front of you, Ojo. What's going on? Hey, hey, Rudolph was – he was back up. Go on, Joe. Hey, Mason Rudolph said, go on, Joe Report at 55. Bullseye. I'm Mike Mitchell.

26:40Shannon Sharpe:Peavy. Talking that talk. Mike Adams. A.N. Hold them boys accountable. Being talking-ish about anybody is comical. Mm.

26:50Joe Johnson:Well, hold on. Wait a minute. All the Steelers players know what's going on. Is it that bad? I'm not asking to put his business out there, but is it that bad? Scale of one to ten. Remember halftime when we played the Steelers? and nobody knows about what happened with me. So scale of 10, you understand how bad that was, right? Scale of 10, is it worse than that?

27:11Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is, Ocho, is that there is a culmination. And look, and I think we've all, Joe, I think you could attest to this. We've been with guys that were great teammates but not good people. We've been with guys that were not good people but were great teammates. What Joey is saying, he is a culmination. He wasn't a good person or a good teammate. Well, goddamn. That's what I deduce from what he was saying. And for you to look, and most of the time, publicly, even if you're the worst of the worst, your teammates will come to your defense because that's what you're supposed to do. And you see for the longest time they did that until he broke the code by coming after Mike Tomlin.

27:58Shannon Sharpe:And PZ was like, hold on, bro. You should be the last one to talk about anybody. in Pittsburgh. Don't talk about Pittsburgh business unless you want to talk about your business. And so that is the problem that you run into. And this is what I tell guys from the outside. You guys know this. We're with these people eight, nine hours a day. Six months out of the year. We know them better than any reporter. We know them damn near better than their own family. So when they be saying all that other and this and that and fans, we talk about, oh, you don't know? No, you don't know. We know what the hell we talking about because we see them in ways and through a lens, you don't.

28:44Shannon Sharpe:So when fans keep talking about, you don't know what you're talking about, you don't know, you don't know. All you do is see their representative that they want you to see and how they conduct themselves. Go ahead, Ocho. Yeah. See, hey, Joe, you see how everyone is somewhat camouflaged and they're representative.

29:03Joe Johnson:They perceive to be someone else in front of the camera.

29:07Chad Johnson:Yeah.

29:07Joe Johnson:That's why I was one way all the time. There's really nothing you can say, Joe. What you get on the show right now, Joe? Yeah. That's the same thing you got on the field. I mean, hell, you know. You had to deal with me, talk about me from time to time. And what you see, the same fun, loving, entertaining, same way I was in the locker room. I was late I had an incident Joe I could tell you Joe I mean it's long gone we're playing the Steelers one game Joe Carson got hurt towards ACL that playoff game I had that information but I let it slide on Joe I had that information you let it slide Joe you let it slide my only asshole coming to asshole moment it's halftime Joe I'm getting the IV Joe we come in I'm hot because Carson goes down why are we not include me in the offense why are we allowing the Steelers to dictate what we doing in a playoff game a game of this importance Joe I lost it Joe I snatched the IV out of my hand I come out of the room blood flying everywhere Joe Joe I lost it I swear to God I lost it and I came out and I'm fussing and I'm not screaming at anybody directly I'm just snapping in general man get me the fucking ball it's not that hard I can do it.

30:26Joe Johnson:I can do whatever you want me to do. Just give me the ball. Marvin shut up. Hugh Jackson came over. Hugh done choked me out.

30:35Shannon Sharpe:Hugh done choked me out. This is how Ocho was. When Ocho got upset, Hugh was the guy that got all the venom. He was the pincushion that Ocho put. Because Hugh knew how to relate. He knew how to deal with Ocho. So Ocho, all of us, Ocho's frustration, even though he was talking, it was you, that could get Ocho off the cliff. But I had that information. I said, you know what? And I'm sure they would love, love for me to, but no, we good, that ain't my job. Now if somebody else get it, we don't have to talk about it, but I was like, nah, I ain't talking about that. And especially with something of that magnitude, when they trying to make somebody like us look bad, I ain't gonna do it.

31:21Joe Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Joe, I will hide. I ain't going to even hold you.

31:25Shannon Sharpe:But there are a lot of stuff when you, when you in the line of business that we were, that I was in, working with CBS, working with Undisputed. People will call and tell me, hey, check this out. You ain't here for me. Put it in your words. I was like, man, if I were to say this, they're going to know exactly this. This came, this came, came, came from inside the locker room. How else would somebody know that? and I ain't trying to put nobody out there like that

31:52Joe Johnson:yeah yeah hey Joe I would hurry Joe I mean I had the needle in my arm Joe I didn't even care I just snatched it out I'm like no we are not letting people come in our house and dictate what we do offensively are we even trying to win I'm like come on man okay Carson is down John Kittner comes in the game that shouldn't stop anything we're trying to do offensively and it's like what are we doing? And I was hurt, Joe. I was hurt because I understood how difficult it was for us to even get to this point.

32:29Chad Johnson:And competing. Competing, boy. They bring it out of you, man. They bring that fire out of you. You be like me when we was in New York. You see red and you just go off. You know what I'm saying? You went off before? Yeah, I'm saying. I know what you mean. You want that ball. Hey, man, bring that ball over here and stop playing.

32:50Shannon Sharpe:it is tough because they shielded Ben with a lot of things and a lot of stuff that was going on. They knew and some, a lot of times, look, if you've got a great rapport with a reporter, they'll catch and kill a lot of stuff that won't make it.

33:10Shannon Sharpe:A lot of stuff.

33:15If,

33:15Shannon Sharpe:if you ingratiate yourself in the city, you ain't gonna get in no trouble. The cops will drive you home. Yeah. Wanna get in your car, drive your car home, you get in the police car, they drive you to where you going, park your car, and get back and get going. Yeah.

33:32Joe Johnson:Absolutely right.

33:32Shannon Sharpe:If you ingratiate yourself in the city, if you're not a dick or you know what, that's how they treat you. I'm not telling what somebody told you, I'm telling what I know. Yeah. So when I talk to you, Chad, when I talk to y 'all, when y 'all hear Ocho now, and I know y 'all think Ocho joke a lot, but when I talk to you, I'm not telling you what somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know with firsthand knowledge. I just don't do it. I don't like to say, well, I'm not going to tell you where I got it from, but a lot of people still call me. I'm still him. Yeah, I fell on some hard time. I'm still him.

34:10Shannon Sharpe:Pop it, pop it.

34:11Joe Johnson:Pop it, pop it. Let him know. Yeah, okay.

34:14Shannon Sharpe:All right. Hey, hey. I'm telling you, I still have great relationships with teams. A lot of my coaches and a lot of people that was in front offices have bounced around. So you do realize, like a tree, like Sean McVay. So if I had a relationship with Sean McVay and all these other guys that bounced around, therefore, guess what? You got a relationship with all those other guys. They're going to trust you. Kyle Shanahan's the same way. So if there's anything that I wanted to know, y 'all don't really think I could find out? Right.

34:47Joe Johnson:Right.

34:52Joe Johnson:Damn, man. Joe, you ever snapped before Joe?

34:57Chad Johnson:I probably had some heated moments, though.

35:00Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

35:04Chad Johnson:Because in them playoff moments, bro, it's like you out there fighting, trying to do whatever you can just to get a win. And you know, in basketball, it's a seven game series. Yeah, we could be better than them for a game or two, but seven games, bro, the best team normally going to win. So you definitely going to have some frustrating moments, bro, because look, at some point, Uncle Ocho, y 'all know this, in basketball, we know all your plays you're going to run. We know what you're trying to do and how you're trying to do it. Now it's your will against my will, you know what I mean? So it's a little different.

35:40Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. But I don't get it, Ocho. I don't. And I know there are times that, look, I've always – Joe, and you know this, Ocho, they're bringing guys in. I don't care how many Pro Bowls. They're going to bring receivers in. They're constantly looking to replace you. That's just the nature of the beast. But I know he can't beat me for this job. Now, if you go ahead and move me on out the way, well, you ain't got to worry. He ain't got to worry about nothing. But just beat me and says, okay, this job is up for grabs. May the best man win. Well, I guess I was the best man because I'm going to win.

36:18Shannon Sharpe:It's really that simple. But I've always, because I looked at it like this, guys, if I got hurt, I was a horrible teammate. I was a horrible leader. If I had not prepared that guy to go out there and help this team win, I was selfish. I'm withholding information from him that could help him get better that would then turn around and help the team. So that's why I always put my arms around a guy. And the guys will tell you, hey, man, help. But they call me Sharp or they call me Shea. And so that means a lot to me. That means a lot because I wasn't concerned about somebody. You know they brought him in to replace.

36:59Shannon Sharpe:Okay, hell, I'll replace somebody. It's a circle. That's what happens. but I've always I've always I've always really guys tried to be a good teammate I've always was I selfish early in my career probably when I was in I was even a good team I was a good teammate in high school and college but I wanted to win so bad and I thought that it was all about me and as I got older and I realized what it took in order to win that they needed there were some other guys There were some other me guys that was just as good as Shannon Sharp, and that could help this team win also. But I'm telling the guys, hey, you come in the huddle, you with me, you're tight end, hey, the receivers, you know what you got?

37:45Shannon Sharpe:You the hot now. Hey, they bring two. We got it picked up if they bring one. But if they bring two, you're hot. You good? Yeah, I'm good. You know what you got? You got the dig. Oh, if it's covered two, get up the rail because I'm getting down the hole. I'm constantly telling guys what they got. That's just the way I am, man. I wanted to win. I wanted to help the guys win. I'm holding information. I know he don't know what to do. It ain't my fault. Then he go out there and blow the assignment. We throw a pick. Who did that help? We losing as a team. Oh, he lost. Yeah. No, we lost. That's just the way I am.

38:27Shannon Sharpe:But I've always tried to be a good teammate. I've tried to be a good person. and sometimes the two things can be true. You can be a good teammate and a crappy person. You can be a crappy person and a good teammate. Hopefully, more times than not, you like to see guys a little bit both.

38:41Chad Johnson:Yeah.

38:41Shannon Sharpe:B-O-F-L, both.

38:43Chad Johnson:But it is what it is. That's right, you know, to have the leader of your team be both. Yeah. You know, you'll probably get one. But when you got your teammates coming out saying stuff about you, bro, I mean, it says a lot about, you know, the love, respect, and admiration that they have for Mike Tomlin as well, though.

39:02Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

39:03Chad Johnson:You know what I mean? Yes. So I can appreciate that, bro. You know, they ain't going to just let you just say anything, though. And a part of me get – because I think the thing is that kind of like Debo

39:17Shannon Sharpe:is that the last year that he and Mike didn't see eye to eye and they ended up releasing him and things of that nature, Even though the Broncos didn't resign me, I never said anything bad about Mike. I didn't. Okay, you feel, you know, you ain't got no use for a seven-time Pro Bowl or a five-time All-Pro. You ain't got no use for him. Okay. Guy that helped you win two Super Bowls, you ain't got no use for him. You believe the guy that you got on the roster that you could draft somebody that's better. Okay, fine. I appreciate the opportunity. I appreciate you coming in. And this offense is very, very tight end friendly.

39:52Shannon Sharpe:I appreciate that. But it meant a lot for me that when I came back here and I had a conversation, didn't even say I was wrong. Because a lot of times, Ocho, they just base everything on what they see on the field. They don't see the practices. They don't see the bus rides. They don't see the locker room. And they don't see what you did in those spaces that caused you to be successful on the field.

40:18Chad Johnson:That's the fun right there.

40:19Shannon Sharpe:So now all of a sudden, you find yourself, people in your office every day. Stuff that you never had to worry about when they ain't forward in the locker room.

40:32Shannon Sharpe:That's what it means a lot. And my teammates, they vouch for me. Yeah. Yeah, they make jokes talking about Lazarus. They say ain't nobody risen from the dead more than you, but Lazarus. That's what the offensive lineman used to call me, Lazarus Ocho. Lazarus. because I would got me to look and he'd be wobbling ankles man you know back then Ocho people hip drop you damn near every play oh yeah no penalty for the hip drop and cowboy calling all that stuff

41:03Joe Johnson:you gotta learn you gotta learn to roll with it yes yes

41:08Shannon Sharpe:but I don't know in a situation like this I don't know if I'm Ben I'm not responding just let it go Joe it'll die down

41:22Joe Johnson:being a quarterback I don't think it's Ben it's not in Ben's character probably to be confrontational especially publicly it says a lot about Mike Tomlin for some of the players like Joey Porter Sr. to be coming to his defense and what former players are saying like y 'all got y 'all nerve y 'all got y 'all nerve to say anything about Mike Tomlin when he's part of the reason for your success when you were there So sometimes as players, you forget about that because it's in the past. You've got all that a coach has done for you while you were there.

41:52Shannon Sharpe:And a part of this, I don't know if I've been would ever say anything negative about Coach Tomlin because it was Coach Tomlin that really harmed his own tenure in Pittsburgh by not getting a damn replacement because he didn't want to tick you off. Yeah.

42:09Joe Johnson:Funny how that works, huh? Yes.

42:14Joe Johnson:So...

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42:51Joey Porter Jr.:We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm going to ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.

43:01Ernest Jones:Well, you're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this here road. Nah, I'm just kidding. Let me get my phone out.

43:07Joey Porter Jr.:How is there signal out here?

43:09Ernest Jones:T-Mobile and U.S. Cellular are coming together, so the network out here is huge. We get the same great signal as the city, saving a boatload with benefits. And there's a five-year price guarantee, too. Okay, here's the turn.

43:21Joey Porter Jr.:Actually, can you pull up the way to a T-Mobile store?

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44:21Shannon Sharpe:There's a lot we could be talking about in this story, but we're going to move it on. Hey, I think we've got enough out of this. Oh, Joe! Joe, this is right up your alley. Sean's released a suspension for the Pistons Hornets fights. Isaiah Stewart, seven games. Mile Bridges, four games. Diabate, four games. Jalen Durden, two games. Joe, I'm going to let you go first, but I am shocked that Isaiah Stewart only got seven games. Go ahead, Joe.

44:47Chad Johnson:Yeah, they was very generous with Stewart because he's a repeat offender, Ocho. He's known for having violent acts on the court, bro. This ain't what we trying to endorse. You know what I mean? Plus, he came off the bench. So I expected him to get the most, but I expected him to – I thought he was going to get more than seven games, me and myself. And it just kind of escalated. I thought – I knew Miles Bridges was going to get a nice, you know, a few games. What's the young kid's name right here? Massa. Yeah, Massa.

45:26Shannon Sharpe:Deal about that.

45:27Chad Johnson:I feel like, you know, honestly, Uncle Ocho, I wouldn't have been mad if Duran didn't get no game suspended because, you know, he wasn't an actor. Man, he clawed the man's face, yo. Oh, he put the man into the barren barraski. That's, hey, that man, he in my personal space. He done head-butted me. We done touched forehead to forehead. Yeah, that's too much. I'm gonna give you a look. You know what I mean? I'm gonna give you a look much too.

45:52Shannon Sharpe:What are you supposed to do? See, you could look, look. Moussa's phone had to put that, put that ball-women's heel on him.

45:59Chad Johnson:Put him with that combo butt. Yeah, you subject, yeah. That's what I'm saying. You subject to get head-butted out there playing, so you gotta always protect yourself. But I thought Stu was going to get – I thought he'd get my – I thought given his history,

46:12Shannon Sharpe:I thought he'd probably get somewhere between 10 and 15.

46:17Chad Johnson:Yeah, I said at least 10. That's what I was thinking, at least 10. At least 10.

46:21Shannon Sharpe:You know what I was disappointed in? I was disappointed in hearing some of the people that cover the NBA talk about they didn't have a problem with this until you get a situation like Malice in the Palace. Well, it wasn't going to be that. You don't know. You didn't think that Malice in the Palace was going to be that. You didn't think Kermit Washington's situation was going to be that. Guys, this is not a good look for the league. This is why they got away from all that in the 80s and 90s. David Stern wasn't playing this. He said, okay, you want to fight? Okay, don't worry about it. Now, if you really want to fight, join the military because they're looking for a few good men and women.

46:55Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But you're not going to do that here. Yeah. It's a bad look on the game. And to say, I don't have a problem with this. No, no, no, no. Oh, and Stu. Stu B. That's not what they brought you to Detroit for. I understand. I understand. Look, the bad boy Pistons, and y 'all want to relive what Isaiah and John Sallie and Mahorn and Lambert and all those, Rodman. But that's a different time. That was, David Stern cleaned that up. He said, nah, in order for us to get to where we need to be, because all that fighting, Joe, you weren't going to be getting no 40 and 50 and 60 million dollars a year contracts.

47:34Shannon Sharpe:Not with all that. What?

47:36Chad Johnson:Nah, nah, nah. I'm with you. I'm with you. You know, Stu, Big Stewart, he the must over there. So I felt, you know, he probably felt he had to come to their defense. But man, you got to have, you got to control your emotions. You got to have control rage. You know what I mean? And too many times, you know, he didn't let his emotions get the best of them. So I knew that. I mean, right, for real, honestly, Uncle Ocho, this is really like a little slap on the wrist, if you ask me. Seven games ain't nothing, man. Look, I honestly, I think the Pistons will rally around this because I still think they're going to be right there to come out the East, man.

48:14Chad Johnson:But they're going to rally around this.

48:16Shannon Sharpe:I think Stewart was an overreaction and Duncan Robinson was an underreaction because I'm going to have a conversation with him. I say, bro, look here, you just grabbed somebody. Even if you fake fake. Hey, bro, hey, come on, man. Come on, Ocho, man.

48:30Ernest Jones:Come on, man. I don't need that. Right. But for you to just walk away and we tussling?

48:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Don't make me tussling. You're in the locker room now.

48:40Joe Johnson:You gotta make up your mind. No, no, no. Duncan Robinson whoops away. But then you say you don't want them to fight. I didn't say fight. I say pretend. It's Pucci Wally. He can be peacemaker. He said he can be peacemaker.

48:52Shannon Sharpe:Come on, Ocho. Man, we ain't trying to do the F-hole over here. How many times we done been on the field and we've done that? How many times in scrimmages, especially when you scrimmage other teams and you know emotions are hot, basically just the camera ain't no fans, just the fans lining the thing. Hey, come on, man. Hey, man, come on, Joe, man. What's wrong with you? Man, it's too hard out here to be exerting all this energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't saying swing on somebody, but I'm just saying, like I said, hey, come on, man, you're no goodwill.

49:26Joe Johnson:Right. And I mean, I feel you. I feel you. I mean, I think obviously suspensions were a slap on the wrist. Understanding that emotions are high, especially when you're competing, you know, at the highest level. And, I mean, it happens. It happens at the time, and it doesn't happen often in the NBA. Most of the time, the most we get is we see shoving. Outside of shoving, you never see it come to blows like it did that day. And, I mean, it's... Hey, man, listen. Hey, Joe, I got a question, Joe.

49:55Chad Johnson:What's up?

49:57Joe Johnson:NBA viewership, it was down a little bit. Wasn't it?

50:00Chad Johnson:I think, I don't know. I'm not sure.

50:02Joe Johnson:It probably has been. NBA viewership, was it down a little bit? Well, I think the thing is that might have something

50:08Shannon Sharpe:to do with hell, you don't know where to find it. It might be on Peacock. It might be on NBC. It might be on ESPN. It might be on Amazon. It's kind of hard. It's not centralized like it once was. I'll tell you what. You gotta have these platforms to make money. Go ahead, Ocho.

50:23Joe Johnson:Yeah, I'll tell you what, Uncle Joe. What was that? You get a few more goddamn scuffers like this, I'm telling you, boy, you get a whole bunch of people tuning in now.

50:31Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. This is who get a whole lot of spots right there. They're jumping off, though.

50:35Chad Johnson:Right. Hey, look, but this is why you see it everywhere, too, though. Like, they don't condone it, but, you know, they're going to put it out there and bring eyes to it. You know what I mean?

50:43Joe Johnson:Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. You know, people love drama. They do. Hey, it makes it exciting. It makes it exciting. Listen, I'm still trying to understand the unwritten rule when it comes to hockey. You know? I mean, it's an unwritten rule. I mean, you got to know they give each other a sign, and listen, hockey has its enforcers. NBA has its enforcers. Most of the time, they conduct themselves on the paint, on the hardwood, and it just – listen, the boys got to control their emotion, man. That's all.

51:08Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it is. That's all. I mean, like I said, man, look, hey, in basketball, that's real money. I mean, you talk about seven games.

51:15Chad Johnson:I don't know what Stewart's making, but, hey, it's going to probably be like – probably be almost a million, if not more. Yeah.

51:24Shannon Sharpe:I ain't got time. Man, it's hot out there. I mean, I see them guys be tussling in training camp. Ocho, it's hot. And the first thing Mike say, I guess I ain't practicing y 'all hard enough. Come on, man, damn. Now you, now me and you about to tussle. We already been out here in this hot ass set as 100 degrees, we already been out here, Joe and Ocho, you know, an hour. And he talking about, I guess I ain't practicing y 'all hard enough.

51:49Joe Johnson:Okay. Hey, you know what, hey Joe? You notice, and the people watching the chat, y 'all can attest to this too because I'm sure y 'all see it. Every joint practice during training camp, there's always a fight. You never notice that, Joe? Every training camp, there's always a fight in the joint practice and there's always the goddamn linemen. The linemen, they always going at it. Every time.

52:16Chad Johnson:You got all them dudes out there with their heat beating up on you too.

52:19Shannon Sharpe:It's going to be a few fights. Because what happens, Ocho, ain't no official. Remember, there ain't a whole lot of officials and they ain't throwing no flag. that they are there. Okay, you get a good lineman. He got his hand in the guy's face, man. He got him jacked up. You got the offensive lineman. Got him jacked up. You done got somebody that didn't hail somebody. And the first day they do, they turn around. Bam! Oh, man.

52:41Chad Johnson:Because, you know, in practice, they're going to let a lot slide in practice. Absolutely. Oh, yeah.

52:48Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely. And so, and that's the thing, you know, guys used to, like, you tried to break practice up. you get into it. But they was like, uh-uh. Nope. All we're going to do is just stay out here longer. Oh my goodness. Come on, guys. Damn. And like you said, Ochoa, it's always the lineman.

53:10Joe Johnson:Always.

53:11Shannon Sharpe:Offensive and defensive line. And just somebody coming over the top with a boom. Hey, Neal Smith and I think it was Neal Smith and Kevin Gogan got into it at the Pro Bowl. And the Pro Bowl? What? About what? I think I talked to Neil about two years ago. Neil said, if I see it right now, Sharp, I'll fire on him. I said, come on, man. You're 60. He probably 62.

53:39Joe Johnson:When they were arguing about it at the Pro Bowl,

53:42Shannon Sharpe:that's a joyous occasion. No, it ain't. Hey, go back and look. Man, Neil hit that man so hard in the back of his head. I mean, Neil jumped too. Bah! Oh, yeah.

53:54Chad Johnson:Oh yeah, it's some place you'll never forget. Oh,

53:58Shannon Sharpe:when he say, and he made it too, he was like, oh yeah, if I see it right now, I'll fire on him. I said, come on, Neil, man, bro, you 60. You ain't got no better fire on nobody. We didn't just say that energy to get around, bro. But it might be on the internet, YouTube. Look up Neil Smith and Kevin Goggin at the Pro Bowl. Man, Ocho, Neil jumped so high, hit that man in the back of his damn head.

54:25Shannon Sharpe:it's in the middle of the game yeah it was like uh uh yeah yeah uh chat y 'all pull it up i know y 'all can pull it up

54:34Joe Johnson:hey he must he must have been going he must have been going too hard then he must have been

54:39Shannon Sharpe:suspension will cost him 724 138 miles bridges uh suspension will cost him 689 665 and jaylen Durin, the suspension will cost him $89 ,423 and Massa will cost him$62 ,641.

54:58Joe Johnson:That they mean

55:02Shannon Sharpe:the big money boys, huh? Ocho, this is what Draymond had to say. Draymond called NBA fans for complaining about the league assault while also wanting players to get suspended for fighting. Pick a side, guys.

55:17Chad Johnson:Man, we can't it ain't even nowhere in basketball you can have that. No, not that. Like, you know, some of these dudes ask out here, man, like, for real, they got to really control their emotions, bro. You can't be out here. I mean, I can understand in the midst of competition, you know, things get a little heated. It may even be some pushing back and forth, or you may bump into a guy, but come on now. Come on. Yeah.

55:43Shannon Sharpe:Hey, those days are over. The last thing I want to do, Ocho, If I swing somebody, I'm hitting him, he got a helmet on. I break my hand on his face mask. I break my hand on his helmet. Then what? I tear a ligament in my hand. Then what? So who have I helped?

56:02Joe Johnson:Nobody. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. I ain't going to talk about when I was in the woods. Never mind. Never mind. I was able to control my emotions.

56:11Chad Johnson:Hey, look, but I don't understand that neither, Uncle Ocho, especially in football because guys be punching dudes in the helmet. and I'm like, what is that?

56:19Joe Johnson:Why are you, hey, Joe, you got to go open hand sometime.

56:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you got to go like to the neck. Well, you got to go to the neck. What you try to do is grab the face mask, lift, and come up under. Yeah. Hey, Joe. And hold the chin strap. But these chin straps, they got not, Ocho. You got these ones that they slide. They ain't like the snap-ons like what we had.

56:37Joe Johnson:Yeah, they ain't going to come on, yeah. Hey, Joe, that's how I was finna do the raise, Joe. What? I remember you.

56:44Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah, you finna get down. I remember you telling me that.

56:46Joe Johnson:Yeah, Joe. You were waiting by the bus and everything. Joe, I was waiting on him at the locker room. Joe, he was going to have to see me. He was going to have to prove to me. He was going to have to show you. He was going to have to show me, Joe. Joe, we prayed before the game, Joe. We went over the scripture. We went over the scripture. That's what he was praying for. He had the nerve to hit me like that in the game. We need to have a conversation. I know the Lord ain't tell you to do that. You got to see me, Joe. Listen, when my helmet went flying, my helmet went flying by 15 yards, Joe. I ran up on him, and I had to think, wait a minute, this ain't the place for that.

57:26Joe Johnson:This ain't the place for that. So I looked at him. I said, I'm going to see you after the game. Hey, Joe, I waited at the lock. I waited at the bus.

57:35Chad Johnson:Yeah. He probably would have got out on you on that field because you ain't had no helmet on. You probably would have swung on. He swung back on you.

57:41Joe Johnson:Right, right, right, right. Fits you up. Right. Hey, hey, listen. It was the grace of God saved Ray that day, boy. Huh?

57:47Shannon Sharpe:Did you see what Miles Garrett did to Mason Rudolph?

57:51Joe Johnson:Wah-wah! Hey. Yeah, hey. Hey, you know what? Hey, you know who lucky too, huh? I ain't seen him in San Francisco. Miles lucky I ain't seen him on Radio Row. Man, he in Italy with his girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, he went to support his girl. Hey, Joe, Miles, this sapsuckle, didn't give me that goddamn jersey, that 23 sack jersey. I told you that. But he said he was going to give it to me.

58:17Chad Johnson:Well, he lied. Don't worry about it.

58:20Joe Johnson:Miles Garrett, I hope you see this. You're going to find out why they call me hella hands. Okay? Joe, they call me hella hands. Joe? They like that? Yeah, Joe, it feel like you're fighting two people, boy. I'll tell you no lie. I'm trying to think.

58:37Shannon Sharpe:What's that, 84? When the Raiders in Kansas City got into it. the whole team man Sean Jones took that helmet off and was swinging it pull it up chat I think it was I think it was 84 it might have been 84 it might have been a little later they connect the whole team are just two people a bunch of people but the Raiders in Kansas City look Raiders Kansas City and the Broncos we don't like each other Chargers they just happen to be in the division Seahawks just happen to be in the division but those three because those were the original three. Yeah. Man. You had to be careful, Ocho and Joe, back then because they really tried to put you out of the game.

59:21Shannon Sharpe:They would. They tried to hurt you. Yeah, for real. Yeah, for real. Yeah. Yeah. And so once I knew that, so you don't care about me feeding my family, I get less to the damn about you feeding yours. So we both would be able to be effed up knees. But I ain't going to be the only one. Right. But it was vicious back then. But they cleaned it up. Bill Simmons spoke with the state of the NBA and Adam Silver's leadership. Simmons says, it's the first time I've really wondered, like, do we have the right guy running this league? Because he doesn't seem interested in fixing real problems that everybody can see.

59:58Shannon Sharpe:And it's like, it's not about, like, look at the NBA Cup. Your schedule is too long. You have to fix this. How many more games can players miss before they're disqualified from postseason awards? Anthony Edwards can only miss seven games. Kawhi can only miss four. Victor Wimanyama can only miss four. Steph Curry can only miss two. Nikola Jokic can only miss one. Giannis and LeBron has already been eliminated.

1:00:28Chad Johnson:Man, listen. Okay, Ocho, I knew this was going to be a problem when they implemented this. this into the NBA season where you had to play. How many games you had? 65 games?

1:00:41Joe Johnson:Yeah.

1:00:43Chad Johnson:I know it's an 82-game season. That don't seem like a lot, but yeah, you can see. It put a lot of people, it put a lot of stars out of contention. You know what I mean? Especially if you get an injury, Joe. Yeah, you get an injury, it's a wrap.

1:00:58Joe Johnson:Do you think they'll change it? They gonna change it back?

1:01:01Shannon Sharpe:Joe, that's collective bargain so when when when is the new bark when is the agreement up you can't you can't do anything now no you i mean you can't no not like nah oh wow it's just it's got to be collective bargain it's just like the uh the league can't go to 18 games as much as they want to that'll be something you'd have to put to the union so if you want to change it and say okay instead of 65 we'll make it 72. So you're going to miss 10 games. But the thing is that if a guy gets hurt, he's going to be out of it anyway. Jokic got hurt.

1:01:42Chad Johnson:Yeah, and still got these crazy numbers. Yeah, but they put this in play because they want guys – they want to stop the tanking, I think, and they wanted guys to have to play versus all this sitting out, these national televised games, guys sitting out. They tried to put it in all that. They did.

1:02:02Shannon Sharpe:And what rest? What did they call it, Ocho? I mean, Joe? In San Antonio, what did they call that? Low management. Low management. Guys were low managing Saturday night games. They were low managing ESPN games. They were low managing TNT games. And I said, nah, bro. People paying$15 ,000,$20 ,000 to sit courtside. They bring their family, and the stars are not out? I mean, just imagine. If you went to the Lakers game last night, no Luka, no LeBron, no AR.

1:02:35Joe Johnson:Damn. You got to be a true fan.

1:02:39Shannon Sharpe:No. Stars sell the league. That's why everybody wants one. Especially in basketball. That's why you want it. That's why you put up with a lot of that BS, Ocho, and you give them the keys to the car because you need that. Right.

1:02:54Chad Johnson:And, okay, Ocho, this is why all these teams, they talking about these teams out here tanking. They tanking because this draft class is going to be one of them ones. Yeah. They know they can get you a superstar that can put you ahead in the next 15, 20 years.

1:03:12Shannon Sharpe:You got Cameron Boozer. You got DeBonza. You got the kid from Darian Peterson. Yeah, I don't know about him. I see a lot of red flags, Ocho. You got Kayla Wilson. I see a lot of red flags, Joe. because of the injury history. No, because maybe that's injury, but he's done missed some time, suspension, things like that. The kid from North Carolina. I'm saying because he's been out due to little minute injuries.

1:03:40Chad Johnson:So he's been great when he's played, but he may have 22 points in one half and don't play the next. And I think on the professional level, you're thinking, man, you're going to be playing 82 games a season. right now in college, you're only playing, what, 30, 35 games a season.

1:03:55Shannon Sharpe:That's if you go all the way through this. You can't make it through this. You all go all the way through, Joe.

1:03:59Chad Johnson:Yeah,

1:04:01Joe Johnson:you can't make it through this. It's going to be tough. Which one is Young Bull that's from BYU that's real good? DeBouncer.

1:04:07Chad Johnson:A.J. DeBouncer. Yeah. Yeah, he nice. He ready. I think, okay, Ocho, you can put him in the league right now. Like, if he was on that Mavericks team and he took Cooper flag spot, he'd be averaging about 22, 23 a game. He good. Yeah.

1:04:23Shannon Sharpe:Carlos Boozer's son. Man, he a dog too.

1:04:27Chad Johnson:He a monster. A walking double-double. Yeah, he balling Cameron Boozer. I like Caleb Wilson too from North Carolina. Yeah.

1:04:36Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I don't know if you noticed, but Gil's son, Elijah. Game winner, long-ranging, can handle the ball, can score three different levels, the mid-range, he can get all the way to the rim, he can shoot the three. He good. He really good.

1:04:52Chad Johnson:Yeah, he ain't got no weaknesses. He just got to stay healthy, continue to get stronger. Put a little weight on. Gil, get that man in the weight room. Yeah. Yeah, but look, Gil, okay. Hey, you know, he just had like 29 in the game. Yeah, against Penn State.

1:05:05Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I watched it.

1:05:06Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he out there getting money. He like a little late bloomer to the party. But hey, look, y 'all can't overlook my Razorbacks now. You know, led by them two freshmen, Darius Acuff and Malik Thomas. Yeah, we got some boys over there getting money, Ocho. You hear me? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we got some boys out there getting money, man.

1:05:24Joe Johnson:These young freshmen is getting to it. We on basketball time now, so, you know, I got to lock in. I'm ready to talk basketball. Hey, Joe, I thought we was going to a Hawks game. Mom, you got to do it. Tell me when you're coming down.

1:05:39Chad Johnson:I mean, listen, I mean. Pick a game. You want to pick a game? Pick a game, man. I'll make sure we put your foot on the wood, get you right. Oh, Joe, we going to sit cross-side?

1:05:49Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, man. get you right i just like oh you gonna come down huh you know you get a haircut joe uh ocho at the hawks game oh they cut him oh yeah they got bougie in there now ocho

1:06:03Joe Johnson:hey hey joe but for real we gonna be cross-eyed though come on man come on i'm gonna get us right i'm gonna have us right hey joe you got hey you got money joe hey you

1:06:12Chad Johnson:gotta chill you got hey joe you gotta chill i can't wait hey hey when the next good game though We got to look at the schedule and see. Hold on, you ain't no true fan then.

1:06:21Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. Oh, Joe, did this man not just say he a true fan when I say people play to see superstars and now he's saying win the next good game? You see that? You see that, Joe?

1:06:32Joe Johnson:Hold on. But you have to understand, I'm not a basketball enthusiast. I'm still getting into the game. So I don't know anyone. Most people ain't basketball enthusiasts. I know Trey Young, but he gone now.

1:06:41Shannon Sharpe:They go to see Steph Curry, LeBron, Giannis. They go to see the stars. Yeah. That's why it's a star driven league. You need that. That's why. But there is a star in Atlanta. I mean, I don't know if we're going to talk about it. I think we're going to talk about, what's his name? The one they just traded to Atlanta from the Warriors. Kaminga. Kaminga. He got the people that the reports is that his people were taking food, all the food, taking food home. What's wrong with that? You can take food home. Not your home, boys. I mean, they're gonna throw the food away anyway. See, there you go.

1:07:18Chad Johnson:You see how this man's making, Joe? Ocho, Ocho, you can't, okay, if we allow you to bring your homeboys in here - What's next? When it's time to eat, after pre, you can't be having them in there fixing plates and all that. Come on now.

1:07:30Joe Johnson:Damn, what kind of, I thought this ain't no family environment? No, Ocho. Well, when we have family day, then they can come.

1:07:36Shannon Sharpe:First of all, Cincinnati didn't have this type of setup, so y 'all can take Ish home anyway for pizza.

1:07:40Joe Johnson:Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. We cater to the players and the family members as well. Mike Brown feed everybody.

1:07:50Shannon Sharpe:But, please, you do realize I got no Marvin, right? And Marvin had to talk to Mike Brown just to get y 'all decent food. Don't do that, Ocho.

1:08:02Joe Johnson:Hold on. I don't know what kind of food we had because, you know, I leave to go eat. You know where I'm at. You didn't have no choice to leave. You didn't have nothing to eat.

1:08:11Shannon Sharpe:not y 'all didn't even have pizza on friday before marvin got there pizza don't nobody want no peace everybody get peace in wings on friday

1:08:26Joe Johnson:nah i don't like no peter i don't want no because i couldn't have it you know you know you can catch me at hey joe hey joe i appreciate that joe but we going no but you can't look yeah you you got

1:08:39Shannon Sharpe:to be respectful of the situation. I get homeboys, my homeboys come in town. Hey, I was like, hey. Hey, they're like, man, I said, look, go in there. They sit down, we sit down. They get a couple slices of pizza, get some wings, we eat. It wasn't no getting no food and taking it out there. Man, I had to stop a dude. Right. Ocho, this dude, I was like, damn, he done shot? What he waiting for? You know, I'm looking up like, well, damn. Man, he shot with 30 minutes ago and he's still sitting around here. Right. This joker loading up, you know how you put your jock and all your stuff in a bag, the laundry bag.

1:09:17Shannon Sharpe:This joker done went and got him another laundry bag and take my 1516 Gatorade home tonight. Damn. I said, my man, I said, my man, that is what we do. I say, is it worth you getting cut over? Because that's what's going to happen if Mike didn't find out you doing this. why? And you doing it every day? You do it every day? Damn. Come on bro. You right. You right. I'm like bro that don't think man. I mean first of all most people most family and friends are not gonna put you in harm's way because when they're gone you still there. Right. They're gonna be looking at you sideways. Hey

1:10:03Joe Johnson:hey Joe y 'all don't think that's petty though? Hell nah. team worried about you know your people taking food we talk about food

1:10:12Chad Johnson:well you gotta give us more content did he sit there and eat and then make a big plate

1:10:17Shannon Sharpe:hold on someone around Jonathan Kamega was reporting taking too much food from the Warriors family room per Anthony Slater he knew management wanted to ding him for missing team requested events and alert him that someone around him was taking too much food from the family room the gripe between the player and the organization as multiple sources said have become petty in the fifth year of the relationship and many believe should have ended years before.

1:10:44Joe Johnson:You heard that key word that I already said? Petty? Yeah. I think it's petty. I mean, and it's a family reunion. Now you're trying to chastise and tell my family how much food they can take.

1:10:53Shannon Sharpe:First of all, you're not Steph Curry. Steph Curry can take whatever he want. You're not him. You have to understand. Ocho, there are things that you could do in Cincinnati that lesser players couldn't do. Yeah. We understand that. I can take advantage of that. There's a pecking order. It's called production intolerance. When your production is high, tolerance level for BS is even higher. So this notion, the thing he can do with Steph and what Draymond can do, bro, when I can, look, when my homeboys came, my homeboys got sideline passes. guys look at me like hey man you your home was on the sideline i'm like yeah i'm like why'd you like man i ain't gonna even ask because i already know the answer is no but my family was on my homeboys was on the sideline john had people on the sideline td could have people on the sideline there are a few other guys but everybody's not like that you gotta understand your position in the organization.

1:12:00Shannon Sharpe:Now, he give you 20-22 a night, Joe, 5-5. Hey, bro, as a matter of fact, what you need to take? They going to fix you up something to take home. They going to have you a bag to go bag ready.

1:12:18Joe Johnson:I understand what y 'all are saying. Obviously, there's a pecking order. There's certain things you can and cannot do. I just think it's kind of petty to me. I mean, I understand what you guys are saying and how you see it. Just a family room. Oh, we taking too much food. Hell, Kaminga probably had him do it on purpose to hurry up and his way up out of there.

1:12:38Chad Johnson:Yeah, it's

1:12:38Joe Johnson:a bad relationship, bro.

1:12:40Chad Johnson:It's a relationship gone bad. Yeah, that's basically what it was. We talked about it years ago when the man

1:12:45Shannon Sharpe:wasn't even playing and then he played a little bit in the postseason last year. This relationship should have been ended. It's kind of like you bring somebody to the cookout and then all of a sudden they taking four five plates up out of there you ain't gonna say it's just food you're like hold on bro oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa but that's how they was viewing it uh the reports like steve kern reportedly wanted to develop jonathan cominga into a sean marion aaron gordon type but cominga viewed himself as a future all-star and wanted more on-ball opportunities. Kamingo career developed. Kamingo believed that he had shown enough in a supplementary role to have earned more consistent trust on ball opportunities.

1:13:30Shannon Sharpe:Neither happened to his liking, sources said. Only hardening his belief that Kerr and general manager Mike Dunleavy would only ever view him as a fast, run fast, jump high athlete without a requisite skill to lead, to be a lead option.

1:13:47Chad Johnson:Hey, look. I'm out here. I got Uncle OJ I'm looking for Kaminga. Where he at? I'm watching the Hawks game. I'm like, damn, when he gonna play? I'm looking for him. So he didn't start line up with the Hawks? I ain't seen him play, nah. He ain't played, I don't think he played the game yet. Is he hurt? He probably hurt. I don't know, I don't know. They probably giving him some time to get ready or whatever. But yeah, to get acclimated. But the faster they can incorporate him, the better off they'll be, man. I think him and Jalen Johnson and can really make some noise. But, okay, Ocho, with him and the Warriors, with Kamega and the Warriors, that was just a bad relationship, bro.

1:14:27They let it – but they couldn't let him walk away for nothing,

1:14:31Chad Johnson:so they had to get some compensation for him. You know what I mean? So that's why they re-signed him, and I guess they just pretty much used him for bait. And, like, at the worst case, we just going to sit him down right here until we can trade him. You know what I mean? That's – and basketball, man, that's how they'll do you, bro. Yeah.

1:14:45Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I'm just – but did he realize, like, Sean Marion was an all-star? Yeah. Sean Marion turned himself into an all-star and was a major contributor on a championship winning team.

1:14:57Chad Johnson:Man, listen. You didn't have to run no plays. Okay, Ocho. You didn't have to run not one play, and he was going to have 20 and 10 every night.

1:15:05Joe Johnson:For real?

1:15:06Chad Johnson:Every night. You look in the stat sheet, dude got 22 points, 12 rebounds. And played great defense. Great defense, and he had the fastest second jump I've ever seen in a basketball player. It's like he would shoot the miss on purpose just so he could go up there and tip it in. Hey, he had the funniest shot released, too. Oh, yeah. He did. He did. He had a little funny shot. But, hey, it was cash, though. In that corner, in that wing. Oh, yeah, three. Oh, that three ball in them short porches.

1:15:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he was cash money. Yeah, but I mean, bro, come on. First of all, Ocho, you taking stuff home is different than a family member or friends taking stuff home. You know how that goes. That's just like you. You can go back to the training room. You can wear stuff up out of there. But you can't, your family and friends, like, hey, just grab stuff. You can't do that. I mean, that is so unprofessional. I don't even know why he would even want to, like, to put the – I don't even know why family and friends would – they say friends. But I don't even know why they would put him in that situation, Joe.

1:16:09Shannon Sharpe:I don't.

1:16:11Chad Johnson:Hey, you got to understand, some family members don't understand the etiquette you got to come with. Okay, Ocho. Especially some that ain't never really been to a professional game. I'm just speaking from experience, bro. Like, you know, you have to put them in their place. Like, look, look, don't be up in here, man, in here eating up all, everything up in sight.

1:16:32Shannon Sharpe:Don't be asking. Don't be asking for no autographs. Don't be, hey, man, can I get them gloves? Man, don't be talking about signing my football. Man, don't look here. Don't do that.

1:16:43Joe Johnson:Hey, that's me right there. Don't do that. That's me. Yeah. Hey, Joe. What's up? I go to games where I get to ask. I'm talking about NFL player, Joe. Joe, I never played in the NFL before. I'd be excited to see people. I'd be excited to meet new players. I'd be asking for pictures and shit. I'm like, and they looking at me crazy like, you want a picture with me? I say, yeah, man, I want a picture, man. Come on, man.

1:17:09Shannon Sharpe:I don't know what's wrong with you. That's how we behave, bro, because when you leave, that's a reflection on me. People looking at me sideways. Man, you know Sharp homeboys, man, them jokes, they know how to act. Man.

1:17:20Joe Johnson:He probably told me to do that on purpose, man.

1:17:23Chad Johnson:But you gotta, hey, look, you hook them up, you hook them up with a little carrot package though, you make sure they get a little something.

1:17:28Shannon Sharpe:Hey.

1:17:29Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:17:30Shannon Sharpe:I had already done told Flip, hey Flip, I got some homeboys coming, can they get a pair of shorts, can they get a couple of t-shirts, a couple of hats? Hey, Sharpie, no problem, I have it sitting in your locker. Cause everybody ain't gonna get that. so you understood but you also understood like I said people that's never been in that situation y 'all don't get it y 'all talk about a billion dollar organization okay you work for Microsoft you work for Amazon let your homeboys go up in there and do whatever the F they want they work way more than NFL teams and see what happens I would just wish people just got it and just stop thinking so reckless you're a professional this ain't no somebody I'm going down the street to Miss Lucia house

1:18:22Joe Johnson:I mean I understand you Joe I understand both of y 'all but at the end of the day man we talk about food who they're preparing the food for the family it's in the family area

1:18:35Shannon Sharpe:this for the team it said family Ocho remember I told you the story about how the coach saying we went to the buffet, it's all you can eat, not all you can eat and take out. That's the difference. It's all you can eat, not all you can eat and take out. Right. And how does that, Ocho, how does that look, Joe? Joe there, Joe got four homeboys, and each of them got two plays leaving the facility. Yeah, they ain't having that, Ocho.

1:19:12Joe Johnson:I got y 'all. I understand. But I think, I bet he said, man, y 'all get what y 'all want, man. I don't care. I don't want to be here no goddamn way.

1:19:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it probably was some pettiness. For sure. Evan Turner responded to the situation tweeting, I remember one time my coach said he viewed me as Richard Jefferson, and that was the first time I truly understood Latrell Sprewell. P.S. I trade the career I had for Richard Jefferson, so it ain't no shade. I just thought I was Kobe.

1:19:45Chad Johnson:Hey, listen, but that's the reality that you get when you come into the NBA, I'm telling you, and you've been great your whole life on every team you've played on, you've started, you've been the guy. Then you get around some real pros, dude who's been in the league 8, 12, 15 years. Then you kind of see the big difference. it's like, I'm talented, but I ain't that damn talented. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's an eye opener, bro. Especially for guys who've really been held on that pedestal since they were 13, 14 years old.

1:20:18Shannon Sharpe:Right. Yeah. And how many, and Richard Jefferson played what? 17, 18 years?

1:20:24Chad Johnson:Yeah, he played 18 years, won a title. With the Cavs. Went to two, didn't he go with the Nets?

1:20:31Shannon Sharpe:He went twice with the Nets, back to back, right? Like, to the finalists, yeah, but they lost to Jersey. They lost to the Spurs, and I think they lost to the Lakers. Lakers, yeah.

1:20:40Chad Johnson:So. That was my draft class. He won, Richard Jefferson went 12. I went 10 in that draft, 0-1. See, I mean, that's the thing.

1:20:49Shannon Sharpe:Oh, look, sometimes we are our biggest enemy. Because everybody views themselves, Ocho, Yo, everybody views themselves as Jerry Rice or Lawrence Taylor or Reggie White.

1:21:03Joe Johnson:Yeah.

1:21:03Shannon Sharpe:Man, just let me, just let me, bro.

1:21:09Chad Johnson:Only time gonna tell, bro. That's it.

1:21:12Shannon Sharpe:That's it. But guys don't have patience no more now, Joe and Ocho. Guys, hey, I want what I want right now, Joe. I want it right now, Ocho. Let me get that. And if I can't get it, I'm gonna make stuff uncomfortable and then you go somewhere else and guess what? never to be heard from or seen again. Right.

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