In short
NBA offseason trade talk focused on Giannis Antetokounmpo’s reported desire to leave Milwaukee (but not necessarily “wanting out” of basketball), plus proposed blockbuster scenarios involving the Bucks, Timberwolves, Thunder, Hawks, and Nuggets.
Guests
Shannon Sharpe (host), Chad “Ocho Cinco” Johnson (co-host), and Joe Johnson (former 7-time NBA All-Star; Atlanta Hawks; University of Arkansas). They discuss roster-building strategy and fan backlash.
Key claims
- Giannis is reportedly trying to leave Milwaukee/Bucks, and the guys argue he should embrace a “villain” role to control the narrative.
- Milwaukee’s asking price is framed as “unrealistic,” with the Bucks seeking a return that would leave the acquiring team “barren” (not contending).
- OKC’s Aaron Wiggins trade to Atlanta is a start; OKC still needs to shed salary/tax burden via further moves.
- Minnesota would only trade Jaden McDaniels for Jokic or Giannis; otherwise he’s “essentially untradable.”
Notable examples
- Comparisons to KD, LeBron, and Kobe handling departures.
- Carmelo Anthony’s move to the Knicks as an example of a team “gutted” by trade return.
- Fan booing history (Kareem, LeBron returning to Cleveland).
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGiannis and His Future with the Bucs
1:37 to 1:47
Discussion on Giannis wanting to leave the Bucs and the implications.
“But without T-Mobile 5G home internet, it's scary here.”
Giannis and His Future with the Bucs
6:39 to 9:29
Discussion on Giannis wanting to leave the Bucs and the implications.
“Per ESPN, Giannis reportedly doesn't want to leave Milwaukee.”
The Future of NBA Teams Post-Giannis
9:30 to 14:00
Exploration of potential trades and team dynamics if Giannis leaves.
“But, bro, just go ahead and say, yes, my time is up here.”
Giannis and the Villain Role
14:00 to 18:08
Discussion on Giannis Antetokounmpo's potential trade and fan reactions.
“If they boo you when you go back to Milwaukee, I'm sure you're going to get a smattering of boos, but I believe you'll get more praise than booze.”
Breaking Up is Hard to Do
18:08 to 21:01
Exploration of the emotional aspects of player trades and fan loyalty.
“When someone is ready to move on, guess what?”
Lessons from Wise Tales
21:01 to 28:00
A reflective discussion using parables about control and personal agency.
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Giannis' Trade Situation
30:03 to 31:34
Discussion on the unrealistic trade demands set by the Bucs for Giannis and the risks involved.
“According to Jake Fisher, the Bucs have set an unrealistic asking price for Giannis.”
Carmelo's Trade Comparison
31:34 to 33:56
The hosts draw parallels between Giannis' potential trade and Carmelo Anthony's past trade situation.
“Listen, I'm not trading you my best to make you stronger.”
Thunder's Trade for Wiggins
33:56 to 34:31
Analysis on the recent trade where the Thunder acquired Aaron Wiggins and what it means for the team.
“I think that's the thing, and that's what happens.”
OKC's Future Moves
34:31 to 36:13
Discussion on OKC's potential future trades and roster adjustments after acquiring Wiggins.
“You know, you think about what Quinn Snyder's trying to do over there, bro.”
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Team Tax Considerations
36:13 to 38:05
Exploring the financial implications of trade decisions for the Thunder.
“But, you know, I think he still has a lot of value to him.”
Player Development and Expectations
38:05 to 42:00
Conversations about player development, expectations, and comparisons of player strengths.
“Which one you want me to get rid of, Joe?”
Player Performance Discussion
42:00 to 43:03
Analyzing a player's performance and the challenges they face against tough competition.
“but he's still going to be a great player, guys.”
News and Media Trust
43:50 to 45:07
Discussing the current state of news and the importance of reliable reporting.
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Trade Talks and Team Analysis
45:44 to 52:15
Debating recent trades, player value, and team strategies in the NBA.
“Because you got this man on you, you don't want to shoot the ball.”
Player Development and Offseason Preparation
52:15 to 56:00
Discussing the importance of offseason work for player development and improvement.
“Because we saw right now, Joe, they're not close to San Antonio.”
Improving Athletic Performance
56:00 to 1:04:05
Discussion on how athletes can enhance their skills and tailor workouts.
“Bro, ain't no way you're supposed to be out there and not be a threat offensively.”
Improving Athletic Performance
1:04:22 to 1:04:52
Discussion on how athletes can enhance their skills and tailor workouts.
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Transcript
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6:16Shannon Sharpe:And to all those out there, happy Father's Day. Whether you're a biological father or you're filling in in that role, you are appreciated. And it's your day to take a bow. Hopefully, the mothers and the kids in your life made you feel special today. I know mine did. Thank you guys again for tuning in. And again, happy Father's Day. Joe Giannis, back on that bull jive. Per ESPN, Giannis reportedly doesn't want to leave Milwaukee. He just wants to leave the Bucs. Now, last I checked, I ain't never seen him swing a bat or catch a damn football. So what other choices do we have? He can play for the Brewers, he can play for the Packers, or he can play for the Bucs, or he can get the hell out of Milwaukee.
7:02Shannon Sharpe:Those are the only two options that he got. Go ahead, Ocho. Hey, Joe. Uncle Joe, this all he doing is softening the blow. He's just softening the blow to make sure that when it does happen, which would probably be maybe in 48 or 72 hours, he's not the bad guy. He just doesn't want to be the bad guy. That's why he's putting this out now. I'm not sure why he doesn't want to accept being the villain. It's okay to be the villain because once you leave, they're going to turn on you no matter what you do.
7:27Chad Johnson:No matter what you do. Even if it's not your fault. It's too damn late, Ocho. It's too late. Look, everybody know you want out of Milwaukee. Yes! We know, hey, look, we know y 'all splitting up. We the side dude over here, sitting over here, chilling in the cut. You feel me? Oh, yeah, they about to break up in a little bit. Yeah, I'm going to find me a little way to squeeze on up in there. You know what I'm talking about?
7:48Shannon Sharpe:Not the reason why. Don't say nothing, though.
7:50Chad Johnson:Yeah.
7:51Shannon Sharpe:I've been seeing them. Ain't nobody been this. I've been seeing, I've been putting that bug in the air. It be better over here than over there.
7:58Chad Johnson:Hello. Hello. Hello. So, so listen, We already know. We already know they're going their separate ways, homeboy. It don't matter how to blow cup. Pause. Soften, hard, pause. You know what I mean? Nah, for real. Go on open up the next chapter of your career, bro, because you still got a lot of great basketball left. If you want to go to Miami and you really have that choice, obviously you got to talk Milwaukee into it. Or if you want to go to Boston. Hell, it seems like Jalen Brown, I already know he on the chopping block too. He already know he gone too. He playing China for$400 million.
8:36Shannon Sharpe:Hey, we going to stop calling that man Greek freak. We going to start calling him sneak freak. Because he sure trying to sneak his ass up out of there without getting any blow. Ain't it, man? Yeah. He need to stop this. But we saw this early on, Chad. And look, I get it. I get it. He won a championship. If he wants to leave, he can leave. Most of the time, a lot of times, you see what Kevin Durant did. Kevin Durant played his contract out. LeBron has played every last one of his contracts out. Whether you like the way how he moved around, leave Cleveland, go to Miami, leave Miami, go back to Cleveland, leave Cleveland, go to L.A.
9:12Shannon Sharpe:Every single time, LeBron James has never asked for a trade, and he's never not played his contract out. Kevin Durant, when he left, now obviously he left the Nets, he got traded. He left Phoenix. He got traded. Giannis has earned a right. If Giannis wants to leave, he's done that. But, bro, just go ahead and say, yes, my time is up here. This notion that my wife is going to determine where we go if we go, my agent is handling all this. This is at your behest. And it's okay, y 'all. It's okay no matter what you do. No matter how good it is. It's not okay. no matter how well intended it is, somebody is going to be opposed to what you do.
9:59Shannon Sharpe:I give somebody, I give a million dollars to AIDS Foundation. I give$20 million to the NAACP. I give$2 million to the ASPCA. Somebody's going to say, well, why didn't you give this? They didn't need to give that. Why you give this? Why you didn't give that? Somebody is going to be opposed to everything we do. Go ahead, Ocho. Well, everything you just said, Unk, is right. Everything you said is just right. But with most players, some players are willing to take the backlash, Uncle Joe. Some players are okay with not being liked, Uncle Joe. Some players are, but Giannis is one who's always been a fan favorite.
10:33He's always been a fan favorite, and he wants to remain a fan favorite, even if he's not playing in Milwaukee. So what does he have to do? He's saying certain things to let people know, listen, if anything happens, if I'm traded, listen, it's not me, it was them. So you can still be a friend of mine. Listen, when he's gone, whenever he ends up in the 305, they still going to burn the jersey. There's nothing he can do about it.
10:56Chad Johnson:Hey, to Giannis, bro, it ain't going to make you no bad brother, bro. You know what I mean? Listen, let me tell you something. Like Anxay, hell, they going to talk about you anyway. You hear me? It's always going to be a little backlash. You know, I just think in this era, bro, you see and he probably see or hear more negative stuff than positives. But, man, if I'm him, bro, I'm going to start the second half of my career and obviously try to do it somewhere where I feel like I can win a title, whether it's Boston or if you think you got a chance to go to Miami. Hey, man, this is part of it. To whom much is given, much is required, and this is part of his greatness that he has to go through.
11:35Well, as y 'all know, I've said it multiple times. I've said it over the months. Obviously, during the season, when the regular season was here, what was going to happen, the sources that I do have, they know what they're talking about, which is why I come on here and say some things that I've said. And again, with the reports that surfaced again, and all the other stuff, all the other stuff with Boston and him going anywhere, none of that is going to happen. That's just to create a dialogue to keep the people guessing on where he might go. Hey, Uncle Joe, listen, I might act a fool or play a fool, but I ain't no fool.
12:09Yeah, yeah. Anytime I say anything about somebody going somewhere, 98 % of the time, I've been right, whether it's regarding basketball or whether it's regarding football.
12:17Chad Johnson:Yeah, hey, hey, hey, you might not be a damn fool, but you're a fool now. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, come on, talk to me, Joe.
12:24Shannon Sharpe:Take your time. Take your time. You don't work overtime at the job, but you damned your part. You damned your part, Ty. I think the problem that Giannis ran into, Giannis says he didn't want to go join anybody else. He wanted him to come to Milwaukee. but as everybody saw it's hard to get team players, superstar players to come join you in Milwaukee come join you in Cleveland, come join you in OKC, come join you if you not LA, you not New York you not Miami, how the hell are you going to get somebody to come there? You're not so it sounded good because guess what LeBron and KD were getting hammered by leaving, going to link up with others.
13:14Shannon Sharpe:And he's like, I don't want that. Everybody he was, but loved. Everybody loved KD in OKC until he left. Everybody loved LeBron in Cleveland until he left. It'd have been the same way with Kobe. Had Kobe gotten his request, gotten traded to go to Chicago, they'd have disliked him. But he stuck it out and he won again and he retired there. That's just the way it is, Giannis. And it's OK. Everybody, is not going to like you or like the decisions you make. You've got to make the decision, being a man, being the head of your family and the head of your brand, you've got to make the decision that is best in the interest of Giannis and Giannis' family.
13:58Shannon Sharpe:That's it. If they boo you when you go back to Milwaukee, I'm sure you're going to get a smattering of boos, but I believe you'll get more praise than booze. That's okay. And you know what else you know what else i think uncle joe if you look at miami look at the landscape of the team obviously the way miami is constructed right now uh bam is a great player you know the players that they had there but those aren't that's not the type of team that constructed that can can attract other people and want them to come there i think with bam coming there i think the attraction of players wanting to come play in miami and understanding okay we have yannis if we if we build out you know get another piece or two we have a chance to contend coming out east again
14:39Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. Hey, listen, if they can find a way to get Giannis and pair him with Bam, Uncle Ocho, that'll be it. Hey, Joe, we need one more piece though, Joe. I think y 'all might. We need somebody to facilitate, Joe. We need somebody to facilitate. I think if y 'all are able to get Giannis, Pata has something else up his sleeve too. The league today is too guard-driven, too guard-heavy for you not to have a guard. got to put pressure on an opposing team. Like, hey, them come down, set up, set a play run. Them guys long gone.
15:15Shannon Sharpe:And to calm your nerves.
15:17Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. Because think about it.
15:19Shannon Sharpe:Everybody loved Kawhi in San Antonio until he did what, Joe? Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, Pop got on the mic and told him to stop. Booing.
15:30Chad Johnson:Yeah.
15:30Shannon Sharpe:They loved Kawhi. He was a finals MVP. He was a two-time defensive player of the year. but when he wanted out they're like later for you you don't want to be here we don't want you here boo listen the fans do feel a sense and I think the only one that I can remember maybe it's different in football because I don't think Tom Brady got any boo maybe he got a little maybe boo it wasn't enough or Peyton when he went back to Indy he didn't get a whole lot but in basketball Y 'all?
16:06Chad Johnson:Oh, Joe.
16:07Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all just prepare yourself for it.
16:09Chad Johnson:Go ahead. The bulls aren't really bulls, bro. Those are the people who really loved you. You know what I mean? And they still do, but this is their way of showing it. You broke apart. You know what I mean? Yeah. Real talk. That's what the bulls are. So he may get a few bulls when he go back, but everything that he's done for Milwaukee, for the Bucks, bro, come on. Man and Warner title, MVP. Like, they going to love you, bro. They going to love you?
16:35Shannon Sharpe:Hey, it happened. I'm sure that I'm absolutely certain they booed Kareem. Yeah. And Kareem was a three-time league MVP. One of finals MVP. And he went to another finals. Yeah. They booed him. It's hard for me to say. You could toss it up. You could say Giannis is a better player than Milwaukee. You could say Kareem. But both are going. I know for certain Kareem got booed. even though, hey, probably wasn't a whole lot of footage of it, but Yannis, you're going to get booed, bro. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what it's like? You break up with your girl and she do stuff. She do stuff. It ain't really you.
17:13Shannon Sharpe:It's that she can't be with you. Y 'all was together and she saw you know Ocho. Bro, I was with you in college. You wasn't doing it like you doing it now. Everybody didn't know Ocho. I was with you when your name was Chadwick Johnson. Hey. Take your time. Take your time. Now, all of a sudden, you Ocho. You go by one name, Ocho.
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17:35Chad Johnson:Yeah.
17:36Shannon Sharpe:That's it. Oh, now, see, I remember you in Little Rock, Arkansas. Hello. Your name was Joseph Johnson. Yeah. Now you go by ISO. You ain't got no more time for me. Oh, hello. Oh, okay. Okay. So I will act a fool on you. Come on. Come on. Come on. Preach now. It's Sunday. Go ahead. Take your time. That's the way it is. It's okay. Because here's the thing. When a team trades a player, they don't move the team. Nope. But see, that's how it is. See, breaking up is easy if you're the one doing the breaking up.
18:08Chad Johnson:Hello. Hello.
18:10Shannon Sharpe:You ever notice that?
18:11Chad Johnson:Yeah.
18:12Shannon Sharpe:When someone is ready to move on, guess what? They ain't block you, change their number, do all of that. Delete everything on their social media page and everything.
18:23Chad Johnson:Hello.
18:24Shannon Sharpe:That's what they wanted to do.
18:26Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, listen, and let me tell you something. Just add a little salt and pepper to what you're talking about. It's easy to do with do the breaking up when you got a plan to be waiting on you.
18:36Shannon Sharpe:Hello. There are very few people that leave a job without having a job lined up. You be damn fool. They have a$250 ,000 or$500 ,000 job. Quit it with not another$250 ,000,$500 ,000 job. Maybe a$750 ,000 wait for you. Hello. That's just the way it works. That's why they say the bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. Well, if I sit this damn one down, you best believe I got these two. I got these two under my foot. Hold on, hold on. I might not have it in my hand, but I got these two under my damn foot. Hold on. Now bring that back. Come on. Let me put this in my nose now. Hold on. Wait, say it again?
19:13Shannon Sharpe:What, the bird in the hand is better than two in the bush? Yeah, but guess what? I got these two under my foot, Joe. They ain't in the bush. They're under my foot. Because if I let this mofo go, you best believe I'm going to reach that day and grab these two right here. A bird in the – you said two birds or just one bird? A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. Because you remember the story when the wise man, he came along. The wise man, he had a bird in his hand. Yeah. Well, the wise man would come along, but this guy had a bird in his hand. Yeah. He said, I tell you what. I'm going to give you 10 pieces of gold if you tell me the bird is dead or alive that's in my hand.
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22:58Shannon Sharpe:He was thinking if the man said the bird was alive, he was going to squeeze it and kill the bird and say, see, the bird is dead. But if he said the bird was dead, he was going to open the hand, let the bird fly away.
23:10Chad Johnson:Yeah.
23:10Shannon Sharpe:The wise man told him the bird is in your hand.
23:13Chad Johnson:Mm.
23:14Shannon Sharpe:You control this fate. Mm.
23:17Chad Johnson:Mm. Giannis, the bird is in your hand. Yeah.
23:21Shannon Sharpe:So no matter how you try to put it on your wife, no matter how you try to put it on your agent, you control your destiny.
23:29Chad Johnson:Absolutely. Hey, see, Unk don't even realize, Joe. Unk don't even realize that transition he just did like a DJ. He transitioned from the bird in the hand and then looped it into the Yonis situation. Hey, Unk, boy, if I had an offering plate, boy, I'd save you some money, right? Oh, Reverend Sharp over there. Hey, yes, he did. It's Sunday too now. It's Sunday too now.
23:52Shannon Sharpe:yeah you know that's the that's the thing i think the thing is that and eventually guess what they'll come back around yeah because remember the second time when brad bron came back to
24:03Chad Johnson:cleveland yep and ain't nobody get more crucified than bron when he left with what they burned the
24:08Shannon Sharpe:jersey they hated him it was worse blah blah blah even the owner took out a full page called him the phony king and this and that.
24:17Chad Johnson:Yes. It would never be that bad, bro. Straight up.
24:20Shannon Sharpe:No, no, no, no, no, no.
24:21Chad Johnson:Nah, he had to go through the rigorous torture.
24:26Shannon Sharpe:But, but, but look how God fixed it.
24:29Chad Johnson:Yep.
24:31Shannon Sharpe:He had to get on a flight and go to Fort Lauderdale and meet with Rich Paul and Braun, didn't he?
24:35Chad Johnson:Yeah.
24:36Shannon Sharpe:Look how God fixed it.
24:38Chad Johnson:Oh. Had to cross that same bridge. He damn damn burnt down.
24:41Shannon Sharpe:That's what I'm saying, Joe. the man the bible teacher says look here if you bow before me i'll stand with you and if i stand for you can't nobody stand against you
24:57Shannon Sharpe:that's what the bible teaches us i know i joke a lot but i'm i don't really i don't really talk about that side because you know joe and ocho pull they pull that old i be trying to do right I want to do right, y 'all. But man, I got these two jokers. Here they won't let go. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
25:17Chad Johnson:You talking about Joe? That Joe don't be doing right. See, I don't like how you be trying to point the finger to neither, Ocho. Take responsibility. Take accountability in the things that you're doing and saying. Joe, we would never like this until you came.
25:30Shannon Sharpe:My thing is I just happen to be easily influenced. That's all my thing. Right, right, right. I try to walk in the straight and narrow, and here come old crooked Joe. Pulling me off. Pulling me off.
25:40Chad Johnson:So basically, you saying you trying to do right, but you surrounded by wrong. Yes. No, you the wrong. You the wrong. Oh, you the dog. You the dog. Yeah. No, Joe, Joe, when you got here, I started acting a fool. I ain't never been like this before until you got here. Ocho, it's Sunday, bro. Don't be... Come on, Chad. Y 'all heard the song.
26:03Shannon Sharpe:So much trouble in my way, I got to pray sometimes. So much trouble. Trouble in my way. I got to cry sometimes. I got to cry sometimes. So much trouble. Hey. That's Joe.
26:16Chad Johnson:Ah. Hey, what you mean me? That's it. That's Joe. And this man started deflecting, boy. Yeah, because Joe, I promise you, Joe, I promise you. When I was on here, I was a good pupil. Huh? I was like a choir boy. All of a sudden, you came in here, you know, with some of these ideas, some of the things that you're saying. And it just, like, I was, I was.
26:37Shannon Sharpe:Hey, let me tell you something. How many times, Ocho? Me and you had nothing dropped. I said, Ocho, I had nothing. I said, Ocho, Ocho, let's drop the Houston thing. Okay, okay, okay, we done with it. Who brought it up? Who brought it up? Hey, you know, your birthday Friday, you can shoot from LA to Houston. We get a night in and you shoot. I'm not my name, Joe.
26:56Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, I'm glad I know what I'm working with. I'm glad I know y 'all true colors, y 'all true size, because I can't do nothing with you, boy. I see how y 'all are. I see how y 'all are.
27:06Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I was just thinking, you know, Houston, I mean, Houston on my birthday don't sound like a bad idea.
27:11Chad Johnson:See what I'm talking about? See what I'm talking about? Hey. Hold on, hold on.
27:14Shannon Sharpe:You put it out there, Joe. You put it out there. Hold on. Hey, when's your birthday, Joe? I mean, on what? It's on Friday. What's the date? The date. Okay. Yeah, I can make that. I can make that. I can make that. I can only stay one day. That's all I got. I got to get back to Miami. Hey. Okay. Man, look here. This might be a throwaway hand. I don't even know if I got a possible. I don't even know if I got a possible date. It might be a throwaway. I might have like six, seven hours. Hey, y 'all let me know what we going to do now because I got to be back at Miami on a 27. Portugal play Columbia.
27:49I can't miss that match. But I can do 24 hours in Houston, though. Hey, man, y 'all.
27:55Shannon Sharpe:Look at him, Joe. Look at him on Joe. Look at him on Joe.
27:57Chad Johnson:Hey, y 'all just be talking outside of y 'all, Nick. Y 'all ain't really talking about nothing. Joe, Joe, I'm ready, Joe. If you're going to make a move, let me know. Yeah, if you're going to make a move, let me know, Joe. Hey, I get everything situated.
28:10Shannon Sharpe:I just need to have my sister to jump on it.
28:13Chad Johnson:Because, you know, whoop, whoop. All right, man. H-Town will be there. Oh, Lord. Hey, listen. Man, we can't enough. Hey, Joe, we got body rockin' up, the Nub boots. Let's go. Hey, you heard me, Joe? Joe, my Unk. Hey, the restaurants y 'all want to go to, let me know ahead of time. No, no, no. That's you on Unk, other city. I don't really know a whole lot about Houston like that. I want y 'all to show me around, though. I don't know nothing about you. Oh, I got you. Now you don't know nothing about you.
28:39Shannon Sharpe:I ain't nothing about Houston. Hey, Uncle Joe, I got you. I got you. I got you. I got all the people I need to talk to to make sure we good. You know, we walking through the back, though. Go in there. Enjoy yourself. We ain't got to be bothered. You know, we can use our peripheral vision. I mean, that's it. Yeah, I got you. I got you. Okay. And don't forget, we got to hit Area 29 Friday night. All right, man. All right, what's up? They're going to have a section rope loss for us and everything. Damn.
29:06Chad Johnson:They gonna have the section roped off and all that? Oh, Lord have mercy. Oh yeah, for us? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a big three, huh? I mean, Joe - We coming in like three kings. Joe, we gonna have security. Like, well, people, we wanted, you know how Michael Jackson, you know how you walk? You know how Floyd walked through and he got like, they gonna have us like that. Come on, like the Beatles? Yeah. Yeah, like that, like that, Joe. Ooh-wee. Hey, we ain't famous yet, but we gonna act like it. Hey, my grandma used to tell me you got to put claim on it. You know what I mean? You got to speak it into existence.
29:41Chad Johnson:You got to put claim on it. I tell you, Uncle Joe, I give us another year. I give us another year. We won't be able to fly commercial. We're going to have a nightcap jet? Watch. Man, we ain't going to be able to fly commercial. We ain't going to be able to go in public. I'm telling you, they're going to be swumming. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Uncle Joe. Oh, man. There you go, man. All right.
30:02Shannon Sharpe:All right. What can I tell you? Oh, Lord have mercy. Oh, hey. But you need to stop this. According to Jake Fisher, the Bucs have set an unrealistic asking price for Giannis. The Bucs naturally want as much as they can get if they're parting with the face of their franchise. So what constitutes unrealistic? Sources say Milwaukee has been asking team for a return, will leave any club acquiring Giannis barren, too barren to contend for a championship, which is the precise opportunity Giannis is known to be seeking if he's going to finally leave a brew town after 13th season and commit to a long-term extension with a new team.
30:42Shannon Sharpe:Joe, is trading Giannis too risky for the Bucs to want to clean your organization out?
30:48Chad Johnson:Yeah, it's very risky for the Bucs because it's not a huge market, Uncle Ocho. So they know, damn, we ain't going to really be able to get no free agents, so we got to get players through the draft. This is probably why they want a lot of draft compensation. to where they can be high in the lottery to some degree because without that, bro, you don't give free agencies unless you overpay for them. That's what these small markets have to do. So, yeah. Hey, look, my asking price would be a lot too, hell, if I'm a small market. Prime example,
31:21Shannon Sharpe:Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks. Yeah. What did they do to the Knicks? Yeah, they ain't had no bench, huh? Gutting them.
31:29Chad Johnson:Yeah.
31:30Shannon Sharpe:They gutted them.
31:31Chad Johnson:Yeah.
31:32Shannon Sharpe:And that's the precise. I'm not trading you. Listen, I'm not trading you my best to make you stronger.
31:38Chad Johnson:Hello.
31:39Shannon Sharpe:He's going. My job is to put him in a worse situation. Carmelo didn't know it. He was in a worse situation in New York than he was in Denver.
31:47Chad Johnson:Yeah.
31:48Shannon Sharpe:Hmm. My job, if I'm the, if I'm the Bucks, I'm going to put you in a worse. You thought it was bad here. All you did was change locations, but it's worse.
32:00Chad Johnson:yeah I think when you think about it though for Melo being from you know up north Baltimore getting a chance to play in New York I think he probably would have traded even even knowing what he know now okay Ocho he'd trade that to play for the Knicks yeah yeah he'd have traded that he'd have traded for that
32:25Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is, is that, yeah, prior to seeing LeBron win championships, seeing Bosh win championships, seeing D-Wade win the championships, now I got to reassess. Because now people looking at me like, hold on, I'm supposed to be in that big five. We've been kicked Darko Milichick out. So now the part of that big five, now it's the big four. I'm the only one that's bearing. granted he made the top 75 deservedly so multiple times 10, 11 times all star all NBA selection 20 plus 25 I think 25, 26 ,000 career points what's the only thing that's missing on his resume that the guy that he came in with because really that's how you look at it because you always mention you know exactly who came in your draft class you know exactly the receiver that came in your draft class Yes, sir.
33:21Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And not only that, Ocho, not only do you know, but Carmelo came in in 03, bro.
33:27Chad Johnson:That's one of the most historic draft classes. Probably after the 96 draft. After the 96 draft class, then probably the 03.
33:36Shannon Sharpe:Or what you call them? Who? Or the 84 draft with Jordan, Elijah one, Barkley, Stockton.
33:43Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. 84. I was three. I was three then. I ain't got about that one. Hey. That's a hell of a draft, too. That 96 draft was, oh, man. You're talking about Hall of Famers. I mean, just iconic, iconic cast. Yes. Came through. Yeah, who I grew up watching play, bro. That was, I mean, wow. But, yeah, they right there.
34:05Shannon Sharpe:I think that's the thing, and that's what happens. Joe, your Hawks just made a trade. The Oklahoma City Thunder are finalizing the trade to send guard Aaron Wiggins to the Hawks for two second-round picks in Atlanta's 2030 and the least favorable of the Hawks-Lakers in 2032. Wiggins drafted number 55 overall in 2021, developed into a championship role player. Culture now moves to an up-and-coming Hawks team. A guy that can defeat, a 3-and-D guy, Joe.
34:33Chad Johnson:Yep. Hey, hey, I love that pickup. You know, you think about what Quinn Snyder's trying to do over there, bro. He getting a lot of like-sized cats, cats who can play on both ends of the floor, Uncle Ocho. Yes, switching them. Yeah. They shoot the three a lot. So they get these three and D guys, guys who can guard and get out, hit them wings, spot up and shoot. So, and he's tried and tested, won a championship. So now I'm sure for Wiggins, bro, he probably want to try and show a different side of him, you know, obviously to what he has to offer to the game. So I'm excited for the Hawks, bro. That's a huge pickup.
35:07Shannon Sharpe:Oh, they're not done. They're going to have to trade some more players too. Oh, yeah. When they got those big three up under those max contracts, there's going to be some other players. There could be some other players leave. And that's the thing. You've got to maximize it while you can. Because, see, the thing is that helped Golden State is that Steph was on that bull jive contract because of his ankles.
35:26Chad Johnson:Yeah.
35:26Shannon Sharpe:And so I was able to sign Klay. I was able to give Draymond some money. And I was able to bring KD in.
35:32Chad Johnson:Yeah.
35:32Shannon Sharpe:Now, just imagine if Steph had been healthy all this time. They're going to have to give him a max contract, which makes it kind of hard to not only give Draymond and Klay max contracts, but to bring KD in.
35:45Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. I think when you look at OKC, they're definitely not done, Uncle Ocho, because I think they got like two or three first-round picks.
35:57Shannon Sharpe:They got three.
35:58Chad Johnson:Yeah, so they got to get up off about at least three of those guys they got over there right now. Yep. So Wiggins is just a start. They got to give up at least two more, you know, probably two more key pieces to what it is they've done over the past some odd years. they got to get two of those guys up bro
36:14Shannon Sharpe:I can see a situation where Dort is not there I think Kaysen Wallace I think he's the prime contender not to be there
36:21Chad Johnson:yeah
36:22Shannon Sharpe:and I think in your situation I think Kaminga I think they're going to move on from Kaminga
36:27Chad Johnson:yeah I think
36:29Shannon Sharpe:already?
36:30Chad Johnson:yeah
36:31Shannon Sharpe:if I had just reading the tea leaves and just looking at the landscape I don't know Joe you might have something different but I can see that happening
36:41Chad Johnson:yeah because you know what I'm not sure what his asking price is, Uncle Ocho. But, you know, I think he still has a lot of value to him. I mean, hell, I ain't going to lie. I would like to see him stay in Atlanta. But from the rumors I've been obviously seeing online and things of sorts, these rumors come from somewhere, bro. So, you know, it wouldn't shock me.
37:04Shannon Sharpe:Entering the offseason, OKC had a projected penalty tax of$213 million. The trade reduces that number to$152 million. Damn. Guess what? I'm going to try to get that thing down to under$100 million, Joe. Yeah. So I need to get off Wallace. I'm going to need to get off Lou Dort. I might have to get off Hartenstein. Because think about it. I got 290 tied up in shape. I got 245 tied up in J-Dub. Yeah. And I got another 235, 240 tied up in check. So you want me to pay that salary and the penalty on top of that?
37:44Chad Johnson:All them guys you just mentioned, those are all of our blue-collar, hard-working cats. If you give up all them, you might not even be at the top of the Western Conference. You need some of those guys, bro.
37:57Shannon Sharpe:Joe, I'm not going to pay that. You got me paying all. Hey, look here. Okay, well, I'm going to have to get rid of a CEO, a CFO, and a COO. Now, which one going? Shea or J-Dub? Which one you want me to get rid of, Joe? What hell? I could tell you the first one who's going to be out the door. That's the way they played in the playoffs. And I don't mean to be rude and I don't mean to be disrespectful. Who? Chick. I'm going to call him the stick man. Chick?
38:24Chad Johnson:Man, they ain't getting rid of that man. Y 'all tripping. Y 'all tripping. They ain't getting rid of Chick, bro. Them three with Jalen and Chick and Shay, they ain't going nowhere. You got to try to keep... Obviously, you're going to probably keep Caruso. I know you're going to have to give up Wallace or Lou Dort. I don't know if you've got to give up both of them all.
38:46Shannon Sharpe:The trade opened up a roster spot for the Thunder. Now they have 14 players under contract, including Lou Dort, Isaiah Hardenstein, and Kendrick Williams. The three have a team option for next season. I can see them moving Dort. Yeah. Hardenstein, that's a possibility too. Hey, Hardenstein? Right now, as we sit, your tax is$152 million. I'm paying$152 million for what, Joe? I got lost in the Western Conference Finals. You know what? I could probably see that, Joe. I probably could get off that, Joe and Ocho, if I won the NBA championship. It's hard to digest, Joe, in OKC. I'm not in New York. I'm not in L.A.
39:33Shannon Sharpe:I'm not in Boston. Ain't a whole lot of big businesses out there that want to slap their name on something and say, yeah, I'm tied to the Thunder.
39:41Chad Johnson:Yeah, no, no, no. I understand that part, but that's a slippery slope, too, because they were hampered by injuries, and we know that, by key players. So it's tough. Yeah, you made it. Yeah, you won seven games with the Spurs, and you didn't have your, what, your second leading score nor your fourth leading score. You know what I mean? So I think if I'm OKC, I still got a lot I can hang my hat on. You know what I mean?
40:05Shannon Sharpe:But here's the problem, Joe, that you run into. My third leading scorer was supposed to step up and beat my second leading scorer, and I wasn't supposed to miss a beat. Right. Now, what am I supposed to do about that?
40:15Chad Johnson:You got to hope his ass get better. He got to get better, bro. Like, I think in a lot of these playoff moments, especially when it gets tough for guys sometimes, you know, you have to really look yourself in the mirror and say, damn, I got to get better, bro. I got to get stronger. I got to be more dominant, you know, when it comes down late in the season because we're all tired and banged up. But, man, they pay you the big bucks, bro, to be able to come through in the clutch. Big bucks and no whammies. Yeah, I didn't think Cech didn't give them. He didn't give them Nathaniel. I mean, it was just tough, bro.
40:50Chad Johnson:It was tough for them the whole series. So if I'm Cech, I'm in the gym right now working out. I'm coming in next season. I'm talking about, boy, hey, I'm going to show up and show out. Yeah.
41:01Shannon Sharpe:No, I should – he should be eating protein. He probably should be getting like 250 grams, 200 grams of protein a day. He probably puts the weight on his ass.
41:10Chad Johnson:He probably is, man, doing his 200 push-ups a day, you know, making sure he get right. You know what I mean? Check. Come on, man. Help your boy out.
41:17Shannon Sharpe:Joe, but if you look at his frame, Ocho, Joe, he only going to be so big. As a matter of fact, his frame might be smaller than KD. And you see KD been in the league 19, 20 years, and don't look like he gained two ounces. Yeah. You know, and the thing about it too, also Uncle Joe, is he can keep that small frame. He can keep that small frame knowing that that's as big as he's going to get, but he can get much stronger than what he is. Yeah. You can still have a small frame and still be extremely strong. He just doesn't have that.
41:45Chad Johnson:Hey, and I think what we really lose sight of here is that, damn, he was playing against a Wimby, bro. You know, it ain't but one damn Wimby. You know, you only got to play against him a few times in a year. Yeah, I know if you meet him in the playoffs, that's one thing, but he's still going to be a great player, guys. You know what I mean? He ain't like he ain't going to be no damn good.
42:06Shannon Sharpe:Wimby wasn't guarding him, and then when Wimby was, he wouldn't even shoot the ball. Hey, hold on, Joe. Wait a minute. You say it's only one player. Think how many times he's going to have to face Wimby when it matters most. At least four times a year in the regular season. Yeah, he's going to. Forget the regular season. Joe, I mean, Uncle Joe, we talk about in the playoff. They're going to see each other every single year. You got to show up. And what he need, it don't need no muscle based on what we saw. He needs something else that you can't. Copenhagen Spit Free packs American grown tobacco into pouches.
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45:48Chad Johnson:There you go. Yes! You can't measure it. Because you got this man on you, you don't want to shoot the ball. Yeah. You know, you're not attacking him. You're not doing nothing. You ain't even going into your toolbox. You just getting the ball up. That's why he in the lab now, bro. He getting right. He getting right. Hey, hey, hey. He hear the naysayers, bro. He hear them. He going to bounce back. He going to bounce back. I sure hope so.
46:09Shannon Sharpe:But the thing is, Joe, I think everybody's going to get better. I don't think the Timberwolves are going to stand pat. I don't think the Nuggets are going to stand pat.
46:18Chad Johnson:No.
46:18Shannon Sharpe:I don't know what the Lakers are going to do. You hear all these trails about Kale Ware and possibly adding Lou Dort and some of this. I don't know. But the West, I promise you, the West isn't getting any easier. It's not.
46:34Chad Johnson:It ain't, bro. And so that's what I'm saying.
46:39Shannon Sharpe:When this opportunity presents itself, you've got to cash in because you don't know. You don't. You just don't. so we're gonna say the draft is Tuesday things are gonna start brewing tomorrow and Tuesday things gonna start picking up
46:55Chad Johnson:yeah yeah yeah you're right I think I think Giannis probably will be moved before the draft if y 'all want me to be 100
47:05Shannon Sharpe:so he gonna be moved in the next 24 hours hey Joe what did I tell you I ain't never steered you wrong Now Jesus got the wheel in this car I'm driving. 48 to 72 hours, Giannis going to be gone.
47:19Chad Johnson:Yeah, probably in the last hour, Ojo. Right before everything about the kickoff, they going to have something for him.
47:29Shannon Sharpe:The Timberwolves reportedly would only trade Jaden McDaniel for Nikola Jokic or Giannis. Well, he going to be on your team then. Other teams are block track car and swing man Jaden McDaniels made essentially untradable unless for a blockbuster trade involved Giannis or Nikola Jokic?
47:45Chad Johnson:Hey, you got to respect it because they keeping it 100. Hell, outside of that, they ain't going nowhere. He ain't going nowhere. Because I know damn sure the Nuggets ain't going to trade Jokic.
47:59Shannon Sharpe:They wouldn't trade Jokic for no player in the league. There's not a player in the league. Not Shea, not Wimby, not Brunson. They would not trade him for anybody.
48:09Chad Johnson:I agree.
48:10Shannon Sharpe:And neither would I.
48:12Chad Johnson:Man.
48:13Shannon Sharpe:No. Too special, too valuable. No. Too special, too valuable. And you can't replace him. You look at McDaniels, you're talking about a guy, a legit 3 and D guy.
48:24Chad Johnson:Yeah.
48:24Shannon Sharpe:I mean, the job, that job that he did on Murray needs to be studied.
48:30Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah.
48:31Shannon Sharpe:And then he came up with big shots. Then he made big play after big play after big play. I understand his value to the team.
48:40Chad Johnson:Yeah.
48:40Shannon Sharpe:Playing him alongside Ant. Now, the question is, Drew Randall gave you nothing.
48:47Chad Johnson:Yeah.
48:48Shannon Sharpe:I ain't never seen a magician that tall. Copperfield isn't that far tall.
48:52Chad Johnson:You got to cheer. You got to cheer.
48:54Shannon Sharpe:Hennings isn't that tall. Houdini. Normally, magicians are small because they got a fitness. I ain't never seen a 6 '9 magician.
49:02Chad Johnson:Yeah.
49:03Shannon Sharpe:But that man disappeared in front of everybody. Yeah. It normally slight a hand. You know, I'm showing you something over here, Ocho, and I'm moving something over here. This man 6 '9", with a tank top on, and disappeared right before our eyes.
49:17Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.
49:19Shannon Sharpe:Hey, listen, on the J.
49:21Chad Johnson:McDaniel, though, if his offensive game can catch up with his defense and be consistent, I can Ocho, we talking about the next Scottie Pippen type of guy, you know, especially playing with Ant-Man. You know, I know that's high regards, but that's the potential that I see in Jaden Daniel, bro. It'll be hard to get off him playing next to Ant-Man and he pick his offensive game up. I'm talking about being consistent every night to where you know you're going to get about 20 to 23 points from him a night.
49:53Shannon Sharpe:Nah, just give me 18 to 20, Joe. Just give me 18 to 20. All right, 18 to 20. Because you know Ant-Man going to shoot six to seven threes a night.
50:04Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah, that man, he trying to get 30 every night.
50:08Shannon Sharpe:Every single night. The question is, and you know what you're going to do. First of all, you already know what you're getting for Rudy Gobert. He's not an offensive threat. He's going to anchor your defense. If he gives you 8 to 10 points, you gladly accept it. But you want him to give you somewhere between 10 to 13 rebounds a night. Block you two to three shots. That's a good evening for him. The problem is, what are they going to do? What are they going to do at the four? Are they going to bring Randall back? Because he was very, very inconsistent. Everybody thought Minnesota made out with this trade.
50:43Shannon Sharpe:They got rid of Cat. Cat said, okay. You happy with that?
50:49Chad Johnson:Hold on, but is he a free agent, though? I don't think he knows.
50:52Shannon Sharpe:No, I don't think so. No.
50:54Chad Johnson:I think they're going to tweak their roster, though. I don't know what they're going to do, but I for sure think they're going to tweak it. you don't like Julius Randle?
51:04Shannon Sharpe:He inconsistent, man. Yeah. Champions, you got to be consistent. He wasn't consistent. Right. His shot selection is not the best. There's a lot to be desired with him.
51:19Chad Johnson:Yeah.
51:19Shannon Sharpe:And the problem is, the problem is, one more time, and this, you know, hey, the record isn't scratched. The problem is, is that he's with Kobe. He thinks, a COVID mama mentality. Bro, you not Kobe. You not. That is the problem. That'd be like me. Hey, I'm getting a tutorial from Warren Buffett and all of a sudden, I think I can invest like him. Bro, y 'all got to stop this. I understand the game and he wants you, Kobe wanted you guys to take the game serious. He wanted you to put time, but your skill level isn't that. Yeah. And you go out there jacking up wild shots and doing all this foolishness just because Kobe told you to.
52:06Shannon Sharpe:Mm-mm. Mm. No. Yeah. Damn.
52:12Chad Johnson:They're going to make some changes, though. They're going to make some changes.
52:15Shannon Sharpe:They need to. Yeah. Because we saw right now, Joe, they're not close to San Antonio.
52:25Chad Johnson:Nah, and they're not close to OKC. Yeah, and they're going to lose some key pieces like Ayo, the Ayo kid. Yeah, Ayo. Yeah, you're going to lose him. You're losing him to free agency because I think he a free agent. Somebody's going to pay him some big money.
52:41Shannon Sharpe:How soon did Devo come back, DiVincenzo?
52:43Chad Johnson:Oh, he probably ain't coming back. He probably ain't coming back this, you know what I mean?
52:49Shannon Sharpe:At bare minimum, what, March, April?
52:52Chad Johnson:Yeah.
52:53Shannon Sharpe:At that point in time, you're like, what I got to play for?
52:57Chad Johnson:So, them two key contributors to what it is that they've done this year. So, that's going to be tough, bro. But, you know, you look at the Shannon kid who stepped up in the postseason, Akin Ocho, I'm sure he's going to be in rotation when season starts now.
53:12Shannon Sharpe:They need to get another guard, too. I think it's kind of run its course with Conley.
53:19Chad Johnson:Yeah. Or Conley just being a hell of a backup.
53:23Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Be a mentor.
53:26Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But damn, who you going to get, though? I've been seeing the Rumblings.
53:32Shannon Sharpe:The Giddy kid out of Chicago?
53:34Chad Johnson:Giddy? Yeah. See, my thing, I like Giddy. But I think, you know, his offensive repertoire got pretty good in Chicago. But, hell, you ain't playing with no damn body. You ain't got no real talent around you. And when he was playing with great talent at OKC, his shot wasn't like that. You know what I mean? It's different.
53:57Shannon Sharpe:Because the thing is, Joe, he needs the ball. Yeah. He wasn't going to have the ball in OKC, not with Shea doing that.
54:04Chad Johnson:Nah.
54:04Shannon Sharpe:So we might as well... Now you put him in... He was with... Wasn't he with Levine? I think he was with DeRozan. They had a nice little squad. Kobe White. Yeah. They had a nice little squad, Joe.
54:17Chad Johnson:Yeah. They wasn't going to really do no damage. Nah.
54:20Shannon Sharpe:They had Busevich.
54:22Chad Johnson:And, and, and, okay, Ocho here, you losing them every night, man. You ain't really on the scouting report like that. Like, it's different when you start playing, you know, meaningful basketball. You know, if he go over to Minnesota, now, you know, we understand Ant-Man is a focal point. But, man, I don't know, bro. I don't really know. I like Josh Giddey, but I don't know if he going to fit well in Minnesota playing next to Ant.
54:50Shannon Sharpe:Got to do something. but they got to get better. They got to get better. And the team's like, man, we're close. We look. I think Denver, I think they're two central figures.
55:03Chad Johnson:I think with Murray and Yoke, they got to keep Gordon healthy.
55:09Shannon Sharpe:That is the key. You talk about a big body guy that can rebound the basketball. He can get you. And the way he's turned himself into a three-point shooter, Joe.
55:18Chad Johnson:Yeah.
55:19Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. He wasn't that in Orlando.
55:22Chad Johnson:Nah, nah. Hey, his game has evolved. Hey, when you want to be great in this league or as a professional in any sport, man, you got to put the damn work in, bro. You know, a lot of these cats come in with broken jump shots. It's just because it lacks consistency. You know, when you turn pro, hell, that's all you do. You wake up, go to the gym, get your damn shots up, go home, take a nap, come back, shoot some more jump shots. This your job. That's why it's hard, man, when I watch guys these days who can't make a damn shot, man, when ain't nobody guarding you. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, the league has changed.
55:59Chad Johnson:It's perimeter-oriented now. Bro, ain't no way you're supposed to be out there and not be a threat offensively.
56:05Shannon Sharpe:The problem is what's so hard, Joe, when you're so much better than everybody else, what am I working on? I get by you with my first move. I can beat you with my second move. I can beat you with any move I want. Now you get to the next level. and that first move, uh-uh. Second move, uh-uh. See, when things are going well, what do we work on? And that's what the greats do. You don't work on your stuff during the season. You work on your game in the offseason.
56:39Chad Johnson:Offseason, yeah.
56:41Shannon Sharpe:They say you prepare for war, not in time of war, but when there is no war.
56:47Chad Johnson:Yeah. And whatever your damn weaknesses are, you want to try and turn them into a damn strength. Yes. If I know I done shot 20 % from the three this past season, I'm going to be getting them jumpers up every day.
57:03Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir.
57:04Chad Johnson:That's all I'm saying, bro. That's all it takes. It takes repetitions, reps, reps, reps.
57:11Shannon Sharpe:But just going to – but here's the thing, though, Joe. Are you going to the gym out of habit or are you working hard? because sometimes you can mistake habit for hard work.
57:19Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. Hold on, Ange. Hold on, Ange. Hold on, Ange, Joe. You got a lot of people going, you know, whether you play football, whether you play, no matter what sport you play, a lot of people go out there and work out but don't know what they're working on. You got to work on specific things based on your game. You know, if you play receiver, you're doing stuff, you know, that you know your team, they don't need you to do that because they're not going to put you in no positions to run those routes or run those plays. you got to work on what you're going to do once you go back in that structured environment.
57:50Chad Johnson:Thank you. I agree.
57:51Shannon Sharpe:That's it. That's it. I only worked on things in the offseason that I was going to be doing in the game. Why am I working on something they ain't finna have me doing in the game? Why am I out there running where I'm running a shake? Man ain't going to let me run no damn. Mike ain't finna let me run no shake in the game. He might let me run slow go. He might let me run a dig or a comeback, a square eye. Okay, so I'm going to work on that. I ain't running no damn shape. I'm working on wall routes. I'm working on Zarros. I'm working on something that I know that they're going to call in the game to give me an opportunity to get open.
58:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And, you know, and we speaking on working out, Joe, you know something I do hate, and it really irks my nerve. I'm looking at some of these big receivers, some of these receivers that aren't really twitchy, and they got them doing stuff that small receivers do. Knowing that all it's creating is – I'm just being honest, Uncle Joe. all it's doing is creating bad habits once you get back to that structured environment and you're playing against smaller corners and you sit here doing all this and you get jammed up at the line and wonder why you can't get the hell open you better forklift old boy and get him up out the way yeah knowing you ain't got the skill set to be doing all that pretty stuff 235 and you try to run rocks like JSN it'll never happen listen Listen, there's one Julio Jones.
59:14Shannon Sharpe:That's it. Most of the guys, you look at, I mean, and T.O. could run around and say his size, but T.O. wasn't as big as Julio. Julio was about 225. I think T.O. probably played around 215. Yeah. T.O. was really muscular, but he wasn't dense like Julio. Man, Julio was huge.
59:34Chad Johnson:Yeah. Good boy. Hey, same thing with basketball. Man, you got these guys who are really 3 and D guys and ball handling and anything, but all you see them doing is dribbling, drill, Euro step, and I'm like, man, you need to perfect that corner three down to where, hell, if you miss, it's luck. You feel what I'm saying? You got to perfect it, bro, because a lot of times, like we all say, or like I've been telling y 'all, when you first come into the NBA, that's probably going to be the only shot you're going to get. You're going to be one of them corner boys where you just stand in the corner so you out the damn way.
1:00:08Chad Johnson:And when that ball find you, you may not get but five reps a game, three reps a game. Hell, you need to be making more than half of them. Right. Half of them, yeah.
1:00:16Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you ain't see Megatron running all them JSC and Raps. What Megatron running? Slam? Yeah. Jump ball, go. Slants?
1:00:26Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, that deep dig route? Yes. Hey, catching that thing, Joe, and coming out the back, though.
1:00:35Shannon Sharpe:I see you. You got Megatron trying to run a Zorro. You got Megatron trying to run whip routes at 240 pounds. Man, let that man get a head of steam and get down the damn field. What he does best. And let JSN do what he does. Right. Whatever you good at, but whatever you good at, we want you to be great at it. And we're going to put you in situations. You see what they do. What is puka? Puka they put Puka in a situation Puka gonna make tough contested catches you got to in that offense
1:01:13Chad Johnson:yeah yeah
1:01:17Shannon Sharpe:look at that offense look at his Cooper Cup tough contested catches their slots are different than most slots because most slots they're size Cooper Cup bigger than you think you think it's slot You thinking Edelman, you thinking Amendola, you thinking Wes Welker, Brandon Stokely. They not that. Cooper Cupp is a big-ass man. Puka Nakua is a big-ass man. They're not your typical slot. So you can't approach them like that. They physical. They can play through contact. You got to be because you're getting 180, 190, 200 targets. You catching 120, 130, 140 balls. Do you know what kind of physical toll that takes on you?
1:02:02Yeah. Yeah. Well, I wish I did have me 100-something damn targets.
1:02:10Shannon Sharpe:I think I better have 100 or something. I think because I call 87 balls one year, I call 81, call 80. But I ain't never had no 190, 185 target. Hell no.
1:02:21Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, if guys getting targeted like that, they damn near force feeding you a little bit, ain't it, man?
1:02:26Shannon Sharpe:Oh, they going force feeding you, yeah, because you they got. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:02:29Chad Johnson:And you got a Matthew Stafford, you damn right you getting force feeding.
1:02:33Shannon Sharpe:He's always brand wonderful. And then, remember, Devontae goes down.
1:02:38Chad Johnson:Yeah.
1:02:40Shannon Sharpe:Think about how many balls Cooper Cupp before OBJ got there. Because that's why they went and got OBJ, because they didn't feel they had a second or third receiver. So they had to force feed him. And, hey, but the problem is, you see what he did? It broke him down. Boy, you catching 140 balls. You catching 100-something balls, Ocho. And even the ball, Joe, that you don't catch, they putting Rydell's and bike helmets and swaps. I don't know what shut. I bet they got shut. Now, I don't think everybody play with Rydell or bike anymore, Ocho. They got shut and all those XL helmets. They still putting them helmets on your ass.
1:03:14Chad Johnson:Yes, sir. I already know it. And them things hurt. You play with the right quarterback, boy. You're going to win, Joe.
1:03:22Shannon Sharpe:Joe, Ocho, you remember what we were talking about? Who was it? I think it was Chase. One game had like 24, 25 targets. I remember. Man, you say man. Oh, hey, that was, what's the name? Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco kept on to him. It was 21 targets. Oh, you say man. In a game, Joe. 21?
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Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Giannis saying he doesn’t want to leave Milwaukee, OKC trades Aaron Wiggins to Hawks and Timberwolves set their market for Jaden McDaniels!
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