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17:05Shannon Sharpe:OK, no problem. No problem whatsoever, Chad. Get that laminated. We always try to be, we try to do things official. We don't ever want to think anything is shade tree or is rigged. You know what I'm saying? I mean, hey, this is an official document.

17:17Chad Johnson:I'm trying to see how in the hell we go from Jalen Brown to my permission slip. That's what I'm trying to see. That ain't no good safety. It all coincides. Well, listen, listen, listen, listen. Back to the Jalen Brown thing.

17:34Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

17:36Chad Johnson:I think what's understood really don't have to be explained, honestly, fellas. Meaning, MB, I think he knows everything revolves around him. Obviously, they still can have him. No, I don't know.

17:47Shannon Sharpe:I don't think that's the case no more, Joe.

17:50Chad Johnson:Yeah, I'm saying when I say revolve around him, I'm meaning playing the right way because he can't be – Okay, yes.

17:56Shannon Sharpe:Okay, I see what you're saying.

17:56Chad Johnson:He can't be no ball stopper. When I say fall in line, meaning like, man, look, he going to get 20 points because he that damn good. You know what I mean? But can you get in the floor of the game and not be a ball stopper to where it gets all these other perimeter guys, you know, out of sync? You know, we want to continue that chemistry and continuity that they kind of got going. We don't want to pull the reins back. We want to continue to let them attack offensively. Hell, JB, M and Max, they both averaged 29 a game this past year. Y 'all don't think they trying to build on that? Now, listen, I understand that they all going to have to sacrifice a little bit.

18:31Chad Johnson:I just don't want to see that wild helter-skelter-ass basketball, no rhyme or reason, your turn, my turn type. I don't want to see that, man. I want to see these guys being syncing Joel play the right way and make the game easy for everybody around them. That's what I want to see.

18:46Shannon Sharpe:But I also think, Joe, you know what happens a lot of times? They overpass the ball because everybody wants to show that they're sacrificing and everybody wants to show just how unselfish they are. And they're like, I'm going to show everybody. Bro, take the shot. we're not saying take the obvious. We're not saying do the obvious right thing, but I think sometimes they overpass the ball because they're trying to show, you go out of their way to show that we're so unselfish, I ain't got no problem with him, I ain't got no problem, and you're not playing really good basketball. I still believe that you play fundamentally sound basketball, and guys know when to do the right thing and when it's not the right thing.

19:26Shannon Sharpe:That's just me personally, but I really wanted to see what you thought about this because this is your level, And like I said, normally it's probably the quarterbacks that normally reach out because for the most part, that's generally the guy that's looked at as the CEO. Now, it would have been very interesting. Probably, I mean, if you went to when Saquon was with the Giants and they had some quarterbacks, maybe they reached out to them. But maybe it was Saquon or maybe it was Jetta. You know what I'm saying? Maybe it was something like that. But I know when guys would go to Kansas City, they would always say Patrick.

19:58Shannon Sharpe:They'd talk to Patrick or they'd talk to Trav. and so I was always interested to see because I was, even though I was one of the leaders on the team, I was, you know, I was busy. I was, I was working out, hey. And even like, Joe, did you take guys when you were in college and they brought guys in, did you take them around campus? Did you take them on, did you show them on the official visit?

20:21Chad Johnson:Nah, I wasn't that guy. I was, I'm going to tell you all something. When I was not, it wasn't that I was too quiet, man. I'd be too locked in. and I'm just not the typical guy when it comes to like showing guys a good time and all that. Man, I ain't the dude for that. You hear me? Hey, that ain't me because, boy, on my visit, I know they cut up. Damn, Joe, you didn't participate? No, man, I wasn't partaking in that, Unc. Hey, look, let me tell y 'all something, man. Before I went to college, I had a real plan. I can't be here no longer than two years, bro. No longer than two years. I got to get my ass out of here.

20:58Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, it wasn't no NIL back then. If I'd have got a few million, I could have brought mama to college with me. She could have been cooking it up with me. Yeah, she could have got a place right close by. It was just gonna be a little pit stop. Hell, it was a little pit stop, but we gonna go and keep it on, get back on the road. Keep on moving.

21:14Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, did you show people around with you? Where? At Oregon State. Well, you hell, you just got there. Hell, you went there with me. Hey, Joe, I was in school for two weeks. Hey, it's that. I went to one class. I went to my finance class, Joe, and you know I love theater and drama. I ain't go to nothing else. You did just enough to get by, huh? I did just enough that I know I'm gonna use later on in life. You know I'm dramatic. I love theater, plays, stuff like that. And finance, you know I ain't gonna cut my finances, but I don't play.

21:55Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

21:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, that's how it was. I mean, look, I did it. Well, like I said, I showed Ben Coates around one time, and I told him he shouldn't come there because they moved me to tight end, and he's going to be on the bench.

22:06Chad Johnson:You told – oh, it was a guy in the same position as you. Yeah, Ben Coates that played with New England,

22:12Shannon Sharpe:that went to the Pro Bowl, that me and him used to go to the Pro Bowl. Yeah. He was good. He was from South Carolina. He went to – he ended up going to Livingston, but he came to visit Savannah State. I was his host. So I, hey, that was the first and the last time. So I was like, man, I didn't know what position you played. I was a wide receiver. Yeah. So, you know, and Coach, like a lot of times the top offensive players that were coming in, skilled position players, Coach would have me, and I only did it one time. So I guess he thought enough for Coach that, okay, Coach, I'll do it. I said, my man, what position you play?

22:48Shannon Sharpe:He's like, man, I'm a tight end. I said, oh, okay. I said, what you trying to do? He's like, man, you know, it'll be big for me to start my freshman year. I said, don't come here. He said, why? I said, because they're moving me to tight end and you can't beat me up. I was just honest. And guess what, Joe? The next year, I was an All-American. Conference player of the year, offensive player of the year, all-conference, and black college All-American. So what do you think the chance was he's going to beat me up?

23:21Chad Johnson:It wasn't going to be. Hey, you kept your 100 with him, man.

23:24Shannon Sharpe:He went to Livingston, had a great career, got drafted by New England, and him and I used to go to the Pro Bowl every year. If you was in the AFC from like 93 to 98, you wasn't going to the Pro Bowl. Not over me and him.

23:39Chad Johnson:Y 'all had it sold up.

23:40Shannon Sharpe:The only question was, who was going to start, he or I? No, hell no. But I was honest with him. Coach Davis said, God damn home, I can't let you take nobody else out. We ain't going to get nobody. And then if I'm a wide receiver, I'm taking you on a recruiting visit. But it got to the point, Coach said, you're going to be the slot receiver. We already got our two receivers. It was me and Squirrel. We came in together. So I was two, he was three.

24:11Chad Johnson:Yeah. Coach, hey, I'm an All-American.

24:15Shannon Sharpe:Then the next year I come back, I'm offensive player of the year. I'm first team all-conference. I'm, again, Black College All-American. I was the only sophomore on the Black College All-American team. Right. All the black coaches. We were in Greenberg, North Carolina. Anybody that knows the Sheridan Black College, the Sheridan Network, they have a Black College All-American just for HBCU players.

24:37Chad Johnson:Yeah.

24:38Shannon Sharpe:My coach, Coach Davis, Coach from Grammeman, Robinson, Coach from Jackson State, W.C. Gordon, Coach Willie Jeffries, All those coaches from Gunslinger, Archie Coonley, Coach Coonley, they sitting around. Now, everybody else is juniors because guess what? They got the black college all-star game. So, you know, they're out there practicing. All the coaches come in. I'm already there because I'm a sophomore. Obviously, I can't practice with them because I'm not leaving college. And everybody was talking about this guy. Oh, man, Harvey Reed, who was the running back. He was player of the year, black college player of the year.

25:15Shannon Sharpe:They talk about all these guys. Benson Brown, they call him the undertaker. Mississippi Valley he said man this joke here gonna be good Coach Davidson look here I don't mean to cut y 'all off he said but I got the baddest in here and he a sophomore he said I tell you what in five years he gonna be the bad whatever he play he gonna be the baddest one I'm sure all them guys good he said but I got the baddest in here right now and he a sophomore he ain't lie Hey, you still talk to some of the players that played with you at Savannah State? Yeah. Bucket. Me and Bucket played together. What about Squirrel?

25:55Shannon Sharpe:I'm talking about Squirrel. I see Squirrel. When I go back, Squirrel, we got what we call the 86 class. 86 is the best recruiting class in Savannah State history. Me, Squirrel, Big Daddy, Rough House, Dane, Yard. A couple of the guys have passed. Now, Dane has passed. Yard has passed. uh coupe but we were the bad we were the baddest class uh bmw uh mike wallace yeah we still we still we still keeping communication and when i go back which is not often we get a call 86 and when we see each other we just start hollering 86 and we know who that is 86 yeah we on the yard they already know 86 was in the house 86 in the house are you anybody with savannah state y 'all I don't know about 86.

26:43Chad Johnson:Y 'all should cut up on that yard in your man. Huh? I already know it. I already know it.

26:49Shannon Sharpe:I already know it. But look, for the most part, I don't know, maybe at North Carolina, Kentucky, the basketball teams, because those are basketball schools, Arkansas probably is a basketball school. But if you go to a football school, I'm just trying to figure out how anything can even come close. Come close. at Alabama, at Ohio State, at Michigan, at Penn State, Notre Dame. What is even close to the football team, guys? Georgia.

27:19Chad Johnson:Nah, nah. Yeah, Arkansas football school, you right. Nah, nah. Them boys, hey.

27:25Shannon Sharpe:Hey. Oh, yeah, but we still – as a matter of fact, we're playing – it's just so hard because everybody still is in Atlanta and Savannah, Ocho. And so they talk all the time. And a lot of times when they have homecoming, they'll FaceTime me. That's the only time I let them FaceTime me. They're like, man, hey, Sean, what's going on, man? You need to be down here. No, not with y 'all drunk ass. I don't need to be down there. But no, it's always great hearing from the guys. I invited Big Daddy, Squirrel, Pope, and Bucket. They came to the Hall of Fame. When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance.

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31:29Chad Johnson:I think something that makes me well-studded to be a nurse is my empathy. Growing up with a big family, I think I've always kind of been a caregiver. When you care give, you get to know the family and the patient and you get really close.

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31:48Chad Johnson:just being able to apply the knowledge that I've retained to my daily life has been so amazing. Learn more at rasmussen.edu. As a matter of fact, I paid for those guys to come.

32:03Shannon Sharpe:In Rough House, he asked Bucket to say, man, tell Sharp I want to come. I said, bro, hey, if he paid for his way, I got him a ticket into the game. So, I mean, to the ceremony. So he paid for his own way because, like I said, he's a part of that 86 class, and we were like this here. I mean, you know, obviously, guys, we fought against, you know, I didn't fight, but you know, we knuckle up. But boy, ain't nothing come between us. It's us against everybody else. Yeah, we gonna fight. Hey, dab it up and be okay tomorrow. Don't you try that. Don't you try that in the yard now.

32:38Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey. I can imagine the stories the boys got, boy. Hey.

32:43Shannon Sharpe:Huh?

32:44Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

32:46Shannon Sharpe:Old freaking Shea over there. It's so funny. No, no, no, I wasn't like that.

32:50Chad Johnson:I wasn't like that.

32:51Shannon Sharpe:Joe, Joe, I went to school, you know what I'm saying? I gotta get a degree, I gotta get a pot here. Mary Porter sent me for two reasons.

32:57Chad Johnson:Hey, that don't mean you ain't freaking because you got to do all that.

33:00Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I only had four years to be there. I could be there freaking. Freaking would have kept me there the next year or two.

33:05Chad Johnson:No, no, no, no.

33:07Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to get out regardless because back then, well, I don't know if they do it now. Man, black college ain't got no money to be red-shirting nobody. You got to get up out of there. You got four years. You come in there at 18, I mean 17, you getting out at 21. You come in at 18, you getting out at 22. Ain't no red shirt. Even if you hurt yourself, you getting up out of there. You just got a year cut show. Hey, Joe, every time, you know, when Uncle and I first started, and sometimes he'll tell stories about, you know, some of the things that happened at the HBCU, we had some really good stories, man, when we first started the show.

33:38And, man, that just got me thinking, man, obviously I didn't have the opportunity because I was a knucklehead and I took such a long route, you know, in the school system. And my love and my dream was to always attend Florida A &M University. Yeah. just to hear um talk about the hb hbcu experience in general and being able to see my daughter cross their prayer view a and m and joe it experienced that atmosphere joe yeah like i had to talk about my daughter crossing over joe i was in tears joe yeah good joe i'm talking about in tears and the atmosphere it was it was unbelievable and i was only there for two hours so i could imagine being able to have that experience for four years straight if that small symbol side yeah emotional Joe.

34:22I ain't even close.

34:25Shannon Sharpe:You see him go over to see the A.K.A. the Deltas. Obviously the Fives, the Prats, the Qs, the Capitals, the Sigmas, the Alphas. They had all that where Ocho was at, didn't it? Yeah, but it ain't nothing like HBCU. Not the pageantry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Homecoming Joe. That buzz. that atmosphere, that student center is buzzing. Everybody's starting to file. You know, the alumni start filing in, start coming in late Monday. Friday by Friday, everybody there, they up on the yard. They talk, hey, Sharp. Hey, what you got for it, Sharp? Oh, you already know. I'm going to put it down for you now. You came back to see O'Shea do it?

35:10Chad Johnson:Yeah.

35:11Shannon Sharpe:I got you. I got you. I'm going to do what I do. Hey, Joe, I had the opportunity to go with my daughter's senior year. I had the opportunity to go to Prairie View Homecoming her senior year.

35:20Chad Johnson:Yeah. Joe, I ain't never seen nothing like it, Joe. Yeah. I ain't never seen nothing like it. And every time FAMU has their homecoming, you know what? I got to work. I'm always working on that Saturday. I've never had opportunities to go.

35:35Shannon Sharpe:It's amazing. And that's what I tell people. If you went to a PWI, every black that's gone to a PWI, you should have to spend one semester at a HBCU, and you want it to be the fall. you want it to be the fall because in the fall you're going to get a little bit of everything you'll get all the football season and you'll get a couple of basketball games

35:57Chad Johnson:yeah

35:59Shannon Sharpe:our football team we would call the suit coat the suit coat crew so we come in there all football players we have a suit coat on and we got a roll of toilet paper as soon as our team score we throw the toilet paper on the floor they have to stop the game they started calling texts on us and so now the players they're getting hype Hey, Sharp, y 'all coming? We got you. We got you. Just, hey, don't matter if we score first or not. As soon as we score, about 40 rows of toilet paper. Now, you're going to mess up the dorm because, hey, we only had so much toilet paper in there. We have to steal toilet paper from the student center.

36:33Shannon Sharpe:But that's all right. But the team, we had a great chemistry. We had a great foundation. We got along for the most part because Peacock, basketball, football, and a few baseball players. but mainly it was football and basketball players that stayed in Peacock. Most of the baseball players stayed down there at Boston. But we were close, we were close. Oh man, I wish I had the opportunity to get that experience for us. Yeah. Ain't nothing like it.

37:03Chad Johnson:College was fun, bro.

37:05Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Damn. I'm glad I went when I went.

37:10Chad Johnson:Yeah.

37:11Shannon Sharpe:I couldn't, Joe, we couldn't, Joe, and Ocho, well you could, Joe. Ocho and I couldn't make it in the social media era. Not in college. Oh. Not in college. Hey. No. No. Not me. Yeah. Not me. Yeah. You got to realize, Joe, I had a brother in the NFL my junior and senior year.

37:32Chad Johnson:Yeah. You going to be cutting up.

37:34Shannon Sharpe:You going to be cutting up. Bro, I had a 300ZX with T-Tops. I got a Mercedes. My senior had a Mercedes, a 300E. Big body. Yeah.

37:44Chad Johnson:Boy ain't passing up no hoo-ha. He got, he, yeah, I already know it.

37:49Shannon Sharpe:And you know you young then. Man, hey, I had to hire him a hostage negotiator to talk him down. He be up about five or six hours, I had to talk him down. Hey, hey, you've done all you can do, Mr. Sharp. You can come on, hey, you can ease down now. Hey, you gotta chill, you gotta chill. Man, I hear my joke. Had a hostage negotiator to talk him down. That's about a PD? Hey, ask about me. Oh, Joe.

38:14Chad Johnson:Oh, Joe, what's wrong with your man, bro? He got a shit. I don't know, Joe. Listen, let me tell you how bad I had it, right? I wanted to, never had the opportunity. Went to Oregon State, obviously a great time. It was a short four-month stint for me at Oregon State. But I love FAMU so much, Joe. And I was a knucklehead in school. Joe, I graduated high school late. I didn't apply myself. Smart, but I didn't apply myself. I love FAMU so much even after I made it to the NFL you know I had them about music I love the band, I've always been a fan of the band from 2002 to 2008 I'm not sure how many people in the chat went to FAMU or maybe played in the band but I'm sure you heard the stories every off season I did my training in Tallahassee just so I could see band camp Joe, just so I could see band camp man, Dr.

39:03White, I'm not, Dr. White's not there anymore right now, the band director is dr shelby chipman they saw a joe every off season i'm in tallahassee at bay i go train in the morning and sit there go watch band camp oh yeah did you have an instrument yeah yeah you know joe i play piano and alto saxophone yeah okay i'm talking about love and just i couldn't go there so that that gave me my sense of peace yeah yeah it's being able to see band camp during the offseason, get my training done in the morning and go watch them boys, man. That's a...

39:40Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, because by the time you got there, because when I came out, Prop 48 had just been instituted the year I graduated because of what happened at the University of Georgia. So that made it work, that made it so everybody was up under. You had to make at least$700 or you had to sit out your freshman year. So the only place I really could go was D2 or HBCU. So that's why I ended up going to Savannah State because I was one of the top recruits coming out. But my grades, like I tell people all the time, Joe, I couldn't have got in prison with my grades.

40:18Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I ain't been to hold nobody. I ain't been to hold nobody. I'm not – like I am now that have acquired knowledge and wanted to learn, I had no interest in that when I was in high school because you have to understand I was so much better than everybody else in my school. I was so much better of a basketball player, so much better as a football player, especially my senior year. It was close my junior year. My junior year, we had a guy that ended up going to Georgia Tech named Afonzo Thomas. He probably was the best player. I probably was the second best player. My senior year wasn't even no question.

40:49Shannon Sharpe:Basketball, I was the best player. Track, I was the best at what I did. So, hey, I ain't seen no reason. Hey, hey, hey. What you call them? Do no school work.

41:00Chad Johnson:They came from being out there in them fields. Hey, the chat making a fun of me talking about I lie so much. But hey, chat, do me a favor. Those that think I'm lying, look at my Instagram. Look at my picture that's on my Instagram.

41:18Look at my picture that's my Instagram. What you call it, huh? Your bio? Your bio, yeah. Yeah, your biopic. Yeah, look at my biopic. What about it? I mean, because they talk about, oh, I'm lying about my love for fam, you and the band.

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45:07Shannon Sharpe:Joe, Timberwolves head coach Chris Finch put the league on notice saying Anthony Edwards will be a cold-blooded score with the addition of LaMelo Ball. He's engaged in a way like I've not seen, and I think there's a combination of factors. Obviously, the excitement of playing along LaMelo, I think it's also maturation and recognizing what the team needs, where the team's at. He'll be far more like, I think I've just engaged in the overall sport. He's looking. He's watching. He maybe didn't have the confidence to express some of his thoughts before, and now he's just way more community. And it's fun.

45:41Shannon Sharpe:Joe? Hey. Can we see Ant-Man seriously in the discussion as an MVP?

45:48Chad Johnson:Yeah, I think it can definitely happen. Obviously, health play is a big factor, Uncle Ocho, but when you look at LaMelo Ball and Ant-Man, their games complement one another. LaMelo is so unselfish. he make guys around him better he has a natural feel a natural great feel for the game like when you watch a cat play bro like his it ain't necessarily about him coming out scoring 30 40 points a night it's his natural feel of the game knowing how to pass when to pass you know seeing plays happen before they really even happen and lamello was like that bro he hell if i ain't mistaken uncle ocho i think he led the league and as far as usage rate making guys around him better There's some stat I've seen.

46:32Chad Johnson:But I think he's definitely going to make the game a lot easier for Ant-Man offensively because he knows and understands, listen, okay, boom, this is our horse. I definitely got to get him going. I got to get him at least eight to ten easy points to where he don't even have to fight and work hard. You know what I mean? And then it's going to be nice where he's probably going to have 14, 15 damn assists. But then there's going to be some other nice where he's going to have an efficient 22, 25 points. He'll lead them in school. You know what I mean? I just feel like they complement one another, and it's going to be so fun to watch because they're both so electric, box office, and can play, bro.

47:09Chad Johnson:They both got something to prove. Lomelo's going to have a chip on his shoulder. You know what I mean? This is going to be good for the game.

47:15Shannon Sharpe:And you look at it, Joe. He's got a guy. Not only can he facilitate that. Now, Lomelo's going to be the best scorer that he's played with since Cat. And he's playing with a guy that's a little more flamboyant as far as passing the ball than Mike Conley. He can score better than Mike Conley. They're kind of saying Mike Conley can facilitate, but Mike Conley wasn't the score that LaMelo is. Yeah. And nobody said, so now you got him and you got McDaniels coming on into his own. So now you just can't gang up on Ant-Man. You've got to pay these other guys some attention. And so it's going to be very, very interesting to watch.

47:53Shannon Sharpe:I can't wait to see him play. I can't wait to see him go at it because Ant-Man is so fun to watch. I've never seen a guy, because normally most guys be taking a series. They don't really – Ant-Man will engage with fans on the sidelines. Yeah. He's like, fan, hey, I got to work out. I'll be big like you. I said, I don't know about that, Ant. He said, oh, no, no, no, no. This is a lot of not eating and a lot of working out.

48:16Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, hey. It's good that he know his body because, you know, some of us know. You know, we know, but we can't afford no bad week or two here. We've been picked up 10 pounds. Hey, but I think Minnesota, Ocho, I think they're going to lean heavily on McDaniel really making a huge jump this upcoming season because they're going to be perimeter dominant and they're going to need guys to really be able to score points and be effective on both ends of the court. And they got a number of cats who can do that, bro.

48:49Shannon Sharpe:So, you got offensive firepower. You look at the SOMO, you look at Shannon, you look at LaMelo, you look at Ant. Like you said, if McDaniels take that next step offensively, they got four or five guys that we know on a given – well, we know Ant-Man can get 30, 40. But the other guys – and we've seen Mello get 40. But those other guys can get you a solid 20 easy. Yeah. Easy.

49:10Chad Johnson:They got it.

49:10Shannon Sharpe:And so now we got – you got your anchor with Rudy. Rudy's going to be Rudy. Just give me a double-double, Rudy. Anything over eight points, we'll graciously accept. But we need you to be somewhere around 11, 12, 13 rebounds a game. around two, three blocked shots a game with some intimidation factor. Because even though you don't block it, you alter it so much, they're not even close to making it. Absolutely. Ant-Man's going to be Ant-Man. I'm counting on him being that. But I agree with you, Joe. I think they're going to be a very fun team. You know, they moved on from Drew Randall. They felt like he was clogging it up and wasn't.

49:49Shannon Sharpe:This is me. Nobody's told me this, but I don't really think he ever really fit with what they were trying to do, Joe. Right, right.

49:57Chad Johnson:I understand. You know, I think what happened, especially in the playoffs, they tried to play through Randall, and it just didn't work. You know, obviously, Ant-Man was hurt. He was hobbled. Hell, he even came off the bench the first, I think, game or two. Yes. It just didn't happen for him. You're right. The games don't complement each other because he's just not a – he can catch and shoot and make a three, but he ain't no damn catch and shoot three. You know what I mean? Like, he a guy you kind of got to play through in order for him to be effective.

50:25Shannon Sharpe:You know what I mean?

50:26Chad Johnson:You got to drop him the ball in the mid post and let him work a little bit. You know what I mean? And it's kind of like force feeding. So, I just think they're really thinking back. You know, obviously, with them getting rid of Cat and him going to win a title, hell, man, hey, things happen, bro. Move on. You know what I mean?

50:43Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing also, Ocho and Joe, is that because Julius Randle is not a great passer, He doesn't do a great job of passing when the double team comes, and he doesn't have a signature move. So now he's got to take 15 dribbles just to get within a couple of feet of the basket to try to bull his way to the basket up and under you. Well, man, so while you're doing all that,

51:06Shannon Sharpe:I'm just standing around watching, Joe. Hey, Joe, I'm like this. Hey, what you going to do for me now? Come on now. Shoot it to me. I'm ready.

51:17Shannon Sharpe:I'm like, well, damn. He like a dump truck, a sanitation truck. Beep, beep, beep, beep. Well, damn, Joe!

51:26Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, you right.

51:27Shannon Sharpe:Now you pass me the ball with four seconds and wonder why I rushed up a shot. Now you killing my shooting percentage because you rushed me a shot. You gave me the ball 30 feet out.

51:36Chad Johnson:Hey, okay, Ocho, the most underrated attribute a cat can have in basketball is being able to pass the damn ball. Right. Man, I'm talking about that's the most underrated attribute because if you got a guy who can really pass, especially your bigs, man, they can make the game a lot easier for everybody. But if you got somebody, man, who can't pass, it's hard, bro. It makes the game a lot harder. You know what I mean? So I understand what Oxan, you know, as far as Drew Randall not being a great passer. Man, you got to have, if your bigs can pass the ball, man, your offense can run real smooth, bro.

52:09Shannon Sharpe:Why you think Jokic is so dominant? Oh, man. Why you think Jokic is so dominant? He can pass his ass off. Yes. Like a damn point guard. Yes.

52:19Chad Johnson:Yes.

52:20Shannon Sharpe:That's why. Bigs that can pass out of the double team. Now because guess what? I pass out of the double team. Akeem Olajuwon, he was passing a Kenny Smith jet. And Vern, Mad Max, were getting wide open threes. Ori getting wide open look threes. Sam Cassell getting wide open look threes. And now when you come to double team, I dump the ball down to Otis Thorpe.

52:41Chad Johnson:Yeah.

52:42Shannon Sharpe:Or I got Clyde slacked knifing through the basket. Boom. So when you get a guy like that, Shaq with Kobe, you look at Shaq. Now, he's not a six, seven assist guy, but Shaq knew Kobe coming, slashing, diving. He jumping off to him, Kobe dunking the ball. Or he got Robert Orr. He got Rick Fox. He got Fish knocking down three. So when you got guys like that, it's hard. You got the double Shaq. You ain't got no choice.

53:07Chad Johnson:Yeah.

53:08Shannon Sharpe:Even though you know they got shooters out there. Look, yeah, that's a three-point shot. But Shaq going to dunk your big in the basket if you don't double him. Every time.

53:17Chad Johnson:Every time. And think about that. You see what y 'all just said, right? Yeah. Shaq is. How dominant Shaq is. Yes. And now think about that five we got down there in Miami. Huh? No, no, no, no, no. Think about that. Think about that. Hold on. I'm not saying. They ain't going to be one Shaq and they ain't going to ever be another one. I'm not saying he is Shaq. I'm just saying we're team. We're going to have to double team him. Huh? And we got the king coming over there too, right? We got the king coming over there. where he's had to carry the crown, carry the team on the shoulders. Stay with me, Joe.

53:48Let me finish that. He's had to carry the weight of the shoulders all his career. Now he want to sit back, kick back, and relax and let everybody else do the heavy lifting. Guess where he can do that at, Joe?

54:00Shannon Sharpe:Where he can do that at, Joe? Where he can do that down in Day County, boy. Hey, Ocho. Ocho.

54:08Chad Johnson:Giannis, you really don't have to double, Giannis. You just got to build that damn wall and transition. Build a wall.

54:13Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I'm not dumb because he don't have a signature move, Ocho. He ain't got like a midi. He ain't got no turnaround. I'll give him that all day. I just got to keep him out of the paint. That's what you do. As long as I ain't letting him do this or dunking the ball on me. You heard what you just said? Yes. I got to keep him out the paint. Who in the hell has succeeded on keeping him out the paint? Build that wall. The team that beat his ass in the playoffs when I can just focus on him. Well, he by himself. You can't just focus on him now. Hey, I'm just not going to let him get 30, 15, and 7. Well, Bam will give you 83.

54:47Shannon Sharpe:Okay, well, let Bam give us 83.

54:49Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, real talk, though. Like Giannis getting the rebound, that's when he had his deadliest. When Giannis get the rebound, Ochoa, I feel like he had his deadliest because, you know, he can attack. It's a fast break right away. So what teams have to do is you have to build that wall, meaning you got to have at least two three sets of eyes on him and y 'all in close proximity so he ain't got no lanes he can kind of get into and get in the teeth of your defense and cause all kind of hell because once he do that you let him get in there now he nerve hoop dunking it spraying out for three it's just too many options you know what i mean what i think i think they're gonna be a hell of a team i think they're gonna be greedy defensively which is gonna fuel their offense yeah hey hey hey hey hey hey oh major real talk if y 'all get lebron what anything gonna be turned up to the max over there no you ain't got to tell me because you you understand that expert analysis you just gave me yeah yeah what do you think lebron thinking lebron know where can i go why i don't have to shoulder the burden what is going to be the easiest route for me not just please yeah we heard riss ball say oh it's not about the money or it's not about getting the ring the hell you say yes it is i want my best chances i want to maximize the end of the road as much as i can and this is the best fit i understood that which is why i've been saying everything i've said how you think i knew yonis was coming to mind what did i say on the show long time ago long time ago before anybody oh yeah yonis are here looking for houses i mean i ain't just throw that to just be throwing out there and then we got the reports today huh You saw the reports about Klay?

56:33Chad Johnson:What? I saw that. I saw that. Hey, listen. When I say something on here on Nightcap, I know y 'all think I be lying. What you saying, bro? And I don't even need sources because I be in the room with the people that's making the moves. What you saying, bro?

56:49Shannon Sharpe:Huh? What you saying? You got really lucky because had Boston given that third year that Giannis wanted, Giannis would have been in Boston. They weren't going to get. But hey, you must have knew Boston wasn't going to give him that third year. They weren't going to know. I know what I'm talking about man You know what they will believe in that third year But Joe you said something very interesting Before I was leaving you say Giannis getting the ball on the defensive rebound And pushing it it's like a running back Ocho what we say about Derrick Henry We got to make him check his feet If I just toss him the ball And let him run And then come downhill I got to make him check his feet I got to make I got to stop the ball I got to make Giannis pick up his dribble Yeah, and I ain't talking about it today.

57:32Shannon Sharpe:I'm free throw line because it's too late You let him pick up the dribble up at the free throw line. He had the basket He dunking it. Are you following it? Hey, the best thing you could do on make them go east and west Joe Yes, I gotta stop the ball. I got that goddamn there. Hey that goddamn Derek Henry Joe Joe he way about as much as you he by he's 6 '3 and He get a head of steam once you get past it the line boy. I'm making a business decision ain't nothing you can do I'm going to tackle his shoe that's it I'm going to go out his shoe as a returner we say hey the first guy down to the gunner you got to throw you got to make him you just can't let him because when they just hit it on the move yeah it's too much you got to make him you got to make him check his feet but I told Ocho Ocho when they first got there what I told them to do I said man y 'all put him in an offset he's not an offset back he's not Jameer Gibbs he's not Christian McCaffrey put that man and he was eight yards and toss him the damn ball.

58:30Shannon Sharpe:He's an old school back, huh? He's an old school outback, Joe. Hey, he wanna be out there, and you can put a full back in front of him, and you can let the full back slide however you want to, but he wants you to hand it to him or toss it to him, but he can't, he's not, he's too long. He's a long strider. So as a long strider, you put him in the offset, one step, two steps, he had the line. Yep. Hey, well how you got - He ain't shifting like, he ain't shifting like Gibbs. He ain't shifted like a Christian McCaffrey. He doesn't have shake like that, like a James Cook. Those guys can operate in an offset position, but not him.

59:04Shannon Sharpe:He's too big. Hey, but how's he that big, though, with that type of breakaway speed?

59:13Chad Johnson:Because it's like once he get through that, if he can get through that, it like ain't no damn catching him. No, no, no. He's strong. He throw that hair back like we did back in the country. He throw that hair back, it's over. If you ever throw that head back. Right. Goodbye. He's strong, Joe. Oh yeah. I'm not talking about this strong. I'm talking about when he running, he in that open field.

59:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. He's strong, boy. See, people missed on him. He went in the second round because of his style. You got to look at Joe and Ocho. Yeah. He had the most rush yards in high school football history. He broke Ken Hall's record of Sugar Land, Texas. That's still for like 50 years. He broke that record. Now he goes to Alabama. He's not there long, but look at the carries. And he had what we call an upright running style, which is a big target. He's a big man providing you a big target to hit. So everybody says, ain't no way he's going to be able to last long. He's got 2 ,000, 3 ,000 carries in high school.

1:00:11Shannon Sharpe:He's got another 2 ,000 carries in college. And so he might, at best, got four, five years. and here he is, if I'm not mistaken, going to year 10, go year 11, and has a chance to be the all-time leading rusher. He has a chance, outside chance, to catch Emmitt Smith and LaDainian Thomas as far as touchdowns from a running back. So he surprised a lot of people because of his running style is not conducive for someone because he's the guy that runs the contact. He's a collision back. Hey, if you notice, now if he out there in the open and he see you go, because I got to tackle him low, Ocho. I ain't been hitting me this damn chest.

1:00:48Shannon Sharpe:You a fool. Absolutely not. I'm going low, Joe.

1:00:51Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey. I noticed that this year, too, this past season, because he dealt with them damn fumbles, because guys were like, damn, taking this contact. I'm finna strip this damn ball. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

1:01:03Shannon Sharpe:And now I put that in the back of his mind, so now he can't run aggressively as he normally would because he's thinking about securing the football. You're at your best when you're just free. Ocho's just running his ride. He running that speed out. Ocho, that left foot going to hit at 10. He's going to throw it to 12. He's going to roll. Hey, he knows. When he comes out of that break, one, two, that ball, hey, pow. He already knows. I'm going to hit at 10. I'm going to roll to 12. Hey, when that right foot hit on that dig route and I'm on the right side, I'm driving back downhill. I already know that.

1:01:36Shannon Sharpe:But I can't be thinking about it because what happens is it so's doubt. You have a couple of drops. Now, all of a sudden, you apprehensive. You tried to body care. You tried to body. You ain't fluid. You trying to body catch it, Joe? Yeah, yeah. You running with the football. You like, you got both hands around it. You can't, you can't. How you juking somebody like that? You need to have the ball. Ah. So they put doubt in his mind because he had those fumbles last year, especially against Buffalo. Hey, remember what I said on the show, Unc? He fumbled because he got them what on his arms? Oh, those sleeves?

1:02:09Those sleeves. Next game, sleeves was gone, Joe. Yeah. You got to be able to feel that ball on your skin. When you wear them long sleeves, you're like the hoop as well.

1:02:19Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you can't feel the ball, you got to be able to feel that ball. Somebody punch it the right way, you got to have that skin to leather on it. You got to have that skin to leather contact.

1:02:30Shannon Sharpe:But considering that Minnesota has knocked Denver out a couple of years of the playoffs and with really just ant. Now, McDaniels has been out of his mind. I don't know what it is about the Nuggets, Joe. And then they found something in DeSamo. They found something in those guys. But I don't know what it is about the Nuggets that he loves playing against the Nuggets. And he gives Murray a fit.

1:03:01Chad Johnson:Hey, that's why he plays well. Let me tell you something. When you got a guy who's known for defense and he can score, He's a pretty good offensive guy, too. See, him having to guard Murray, it fuels his offense because, you know, you play good defense. You're in good spirits, so you're playing the right way. Boom, that ball finds you. You know, now you're able to make plays offensively. But defensively, he's so engaged that, you know, it kind of fuels his offense and kind of gets him going to the point to where he damn, he looks so good against the Nuggets. I'm like, I don't think the Nuggets want to see the Timberwolves no damn more.

1:03:36Shannon Sharpe:He's like, I need to see the Nuggets about 40, 50 games. I'm a All-Star against them, for sure. But that's how it rolls out. But I'm anxious to see Ant-Man. He is, you know, he's a pleasure to watch. Because at the end of the day, I don't give a damn to sport. It's still about entertainment, Ocho. You go to a sporting event to what? To be entertained.

1:04:06Yeah.

1:04:07Shannon Sharpe:Imagine, of course, if Jordan just laid the ball up, were you going to be just entertained? It was that tongue hanging out, and he's sideways. Yeah. Yeah. It was Magic Johnson doing this.

1:04:17Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. That part.

1:04:20Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. That's why Biggs, that's why Biggs is hard to resonate with Biggs unless you like Shaq breaking down the backboard. Everybody talking about the most unstoppable shot that's ever been created in basketball is what? The hook. That's skyhook. Skyhook. And don't nobody get Kareem credit. Man, ain't nobody wanna see that. Ain't nobody even practicing that no more. Ain't nobody practicing. Of all the things, you see people do the finger roll, George Gerber, the dark finger roll. You see them hang in the air. They even tried to copy Steph Curry shooting the ball from distance. Ain't no, not one player have ever, when's the last time you see somebody throw a hook shot from 18 feet like Kareem?

1:05:01Chad Johnson:Hey, that's a hard ass shot though, Uncle Ocho. I ain't gonna lie to you. That's probably why they don't want to do it, Uncle. It would take long to perfect something like that too.

1:05:10Shannon Sharpe:Kareem said, how long you thought he took him to work on that? He said, you make it seem like he just came in the league and he been working on it his whole career. Oh yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing. Jordan, not Jordan, he wasn't entertaining. He understood the entertainment value of it. Right, yeah. When he started flying through there, dunking on everybody?

1:05:32Chad Johnson:With spraying his legs, huh? You already know how the logo go, man. Stop playing.

1:05:37Shannon Sharpe:The jump man. Yeah. I mean, he dunking on everybody in the game. And when he came out there with that tongue hanging out, I said, man, you gonna bite your damn tongue off. I'm surprised he didn't have any issues where he got somebody hit him out there or hit him while his tongue was out. What kind of issues? Well, if the Knicks didn't do it and the Heat didn't do it and the Pistons, wasn't nobody else going to do it because they were the most physical. But don't sleep on the Boston Celtics now. People don't look at – because they look at McHale and they look at Parrish and they look at Byrd and don't think they were physical.

1:06:16Shannon Sharpe:But shh.

1:06:17Chad Johnson:They had a super team. Shh.

1:06:20Shannon Sharpe:Everybody – all of them had – the Lakers and the Celtics had a super team. But super teams are okay, Joe, if you build it. that's what I learned to notice as long as you build it but you do realize the Celtics did not draft Robert Parrish they traded him for Joe Barry Cowell in the right to the number one pick so that's how they got Kevin McHale and Robert Parrish they didn't draft Dennis Johnson they didn't draft Nate Archibald a lot of the players that they got they didn't draft but that's okay that was before he went there and look at the Lakers They didn't draft Kareem. They drafted Magic.

1:07:02Shannon Sharpe:They didn't draft Bob McAdoo. But look, if I like you, I'll make excuses. You know what I'm saying, Ochoa? I like what you do. If I don't, I don't give a damn what you do. You can find a cure for cancer. Screw you. You ain't cured diabetes.

1:07:17Chad Johnson:Oh, man.

1:07:18Shannon Sharpe:You found a cure for cancer, but you ain't cured diabetes. What you gonna do about that, Joe?

1:07:21Chad Johnson:Come on, come on, man.

1:07:22Shannon Sharpe:If you so good at medicine. but you know how it go but no i i think this is ant man you come trying to think the closer he gonna come is to the lakers or the uh or the clippers i gotta go see him i gotta hit up hey t lou i know you watch it because you watch all the time i'm gonna come see ant man play

1:07:44Chad Johnson:when they go when they go play the clippers yeah

1:07:50Shannon Sharpe:I think I want what I will. I'm going to hit his ass up.

1:07:53Chad Johnson:Yeah. Minnesota going to be fun to watch this year, Arke Ocho. Hell yeah. Absolutely. They're going to be fun to watch. They're still going to – I still think they're going to be a top – they're going to be a top five team in the East. I mean West. Top five. Yeah.

1:08:07Shannon Sharpe:For sure. And if they stay healthy, they might be top four.

1:08:13Chad Johnson:Could be. Could be.

1:08:15Shannon Sharpe:If he can stay healthy. Yeah.

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