Nightcap Hour 1: Joe Burrow aka BUBBLE BOY back at Practice + Shedeur Sanders QB1 vs Raiders + Bills Keon Coleman BENCHED AGAIN

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16:09Joe Johnson:standpoint, Joe, knowing how Burrow is, knowing the competitor that he is. He's a liar. Joe, he coming back to play, Joe, regardless of how we doing as a team.

16:22Shannon Sharpe:But sometimes, Ocho, you know we can get in our own way now. The man been bogged down with Andrew, you know that toe gonna linger, bro.

16:31Joe Johnson:Joe, I know one thing. If Joe, if Burrow ain't feeling 100%, he not taking his ass out there on that field.

16:37Shannon Sharpe:Well, then he ain't going to play. It ain't no way that toe going to be 100%, man. Listen.

16:42Joe Johnson:Yeah.

16:42Shannon Sharpe:Let the man heal up, and then y 'all get another crack at it next year. If it don't happen next year, Ocho, you got to blow that thing up.

16:49Joe Johnson:Okay. Okay. I mean, I like that, Joe. But me, honestly, if Joe feels good and knowing how he is, he ain't sitting on that sideline, Joe. if he can go and then think about it 80, 85, 87 even a 90 % Joe Burrow is better than half the goddamn league. It's better than half the league out there even horrible. So I would like to see him though honestly just to finish it off strong just so you feel good about yourself in your head and when the back of your head is like well goddamn I done been hurt three out of six seasons you know and ain't been able to contribute to help my team out man shit no i mean man i'm finishing this i'm finishing this shit off hey look i'm sure he

17:33Shannon Sharpe:probably does want to get back out i mean hell he's making a lot of money yeah oh yeah oh yeah but uh ocho sometimes man you know you got to get in guys wait man and just tell them hey look we understand yeah we know you want to play yeah but uh you probably need to sit the rest of the season now we can get you right going into the next season uh-huh hey man hey y 'all out there just just playing uh football just to be finishing the season that man get hurt again now come on now.

17:58Joe Johnson:Yeah. I mean, you right. I'm trying to help y 'all, man.

18:01Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to...

18:01Joe Johnson:Joe, you right, but I'm telling you how the individual is. He's an animal. I already know. But he an animal, right? He an animal. I just don't see any scenario where he can go sit down. Especially... He was a full participant in practice today. He was a full participant in practice. See what that thing

18:19Shannon Sharpe:feel like tomorrow.

18:21Joe Johnson:Yeah.

18:21Shannon Sharpe:Unless Joe Burr will come back as a combination of Miles Garrett and Lawrence Taylor, y 'all ain't going nowhere. I don't give a damn what he come back at. We understand that part, Joe. So if he comes back, it's Miles Garrett and Lawrence Taylor with a little mix of Deion Sanders and Ray Lewis in there. So which one of them is he going to beat?

18:39Joe Johnson:Right. I mean, neither one. Neither one. You have to understand that. That's not the part we talk about. You got to understand the type of individual Joe is. I know what he is.

18:49Shannon Sharpe:You don't become the number one overall pick without being a competitor. But you also don't become somebody without being realistic.

18:56Joe Johnson:Yeah, man, I honestly, Joe, I mean. Have you seen your defense? Yeah, that man ain't thinking about none of that. That man ain't thinking about none of that. That man is thinking about getting on that field, getting back healthy, and trying to contribute and finish the season off on a high note for him in the village so he feels better about himself going into the offseason. I'm telling you how you think, and I know it. Because if he wasn't, it wouldn't be no goddamn reason to be a goddamn practice today. Hey, Joe, he was a full participant.

19:26Shannon Sharpe:Look on your screen, don't you? We got something showing for you.

19:28Joe Johnson:What's that?

19:29Shannon Sharpe:Look how they bringing it back, Joe. Is that bubble wrap? Y 'all, we got two. We got a choice. What do you mean is that? We ain't got no choice, don't you?

19:42Joe Johnson:We don't want to. Hey, y 'all, why y 'all disrespecting my quarterback now? Hold on. Hold on. You over there laughing. He better than Bo Nix down in Denver right now, and Joe ain't even playing. We're not debating his skill set.

19:58Shannon Sharpe:We're not debating how good he actually is. Okay, okay. Because, excuse me, we know he's great. Okay. We're not debating that.

20:07Joe Johnson:I know, I know, but the joke's just flying and the he-he and the ha-ha and like he ain't that boy.

20:14Shannon Sharpe:You don't think that fit? You just said the man been hurt three of his six years.

20:19Joe Johnson:I'm just speaking facts on what's happening.

20:21Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, ACL, his first year he got hurt. The next year he went through. Then he went to a Super Bowl. Then he got his wrist hurt. Now he missed the entire rest of that season, which was probably about eight, nine games. Now this is week 12, so he's going to miss at bare minimum another 10 games. Right. What the hell happened to my camera? You act like we put this around Brett Favre. Peyton, come on now. You're talking about a guy that he missed 10 games his rookie season, if not more. He's going to miss 10 games this season. With his wrist injury, he missed probably another 10 games. So he's missed probably 30 games since he's been in the league.

21:04Joe Johnson:Right. I didn't need you to detail all that.

21:07Shannon Sharpe:The really great with Ocho, you know this, they got to be available. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, you're right. You are available. What good is that? Man, I had the best feet. Man, I had the best feet in the NFL. Yeah. But you played every other year.

21:24Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, you right, you right. But you played every Sunday. I did, I did, I did. Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, you should have seen my feet, Joe. These things right here, Joe? Oh, yeah, I seen you cut a rug or two. These things right here, Joe? Yeah. Hey, them boys got a mind of their own, boy, you hear me?

21:43Shannon Sharpe:We already know what's going to happen, though, Joe. Man, Ocho have 150 yards and two touchdowns, but they lost. Nah, that's a lie. That's a lie. Don't do that, Ocho. Hold on.

21:55Joe Johnson:You saying as long as Osho got here, he was cool? Nah, nah. Joe, I'm not saying that I did everything. No, he wasn't happy about it.

22:02Shannon Sharpe:He just knew it was – Yeah, I'm hot. He knew I'm going to get mine. Unfortunately, I'm not in a situation where as a team, we're good enough to win more than we lose. Joe. So I got to do my part.

22:14Joe Johnson:Joe, my grandma always told me, baby in life, you can only do one thing. you can control what you can control and do your part. So Joe I did my part collectively as a team I can't control the other 10 people. I can't control the 11 people that's on defense but I know what I can control. I control me. I can control them feet that had a mind of their own. Hey Joe I'm the only receiver in the history of the game. They didn't pay me to play receiver. Joe they paid me for my feet alone. I'm just saying I'm just being honest to you it's in my contract if you look I show you a copy of my contract it states we are paying him individually on what he's able to do with his feet that's what they pay me for they ain't pay me for so you saying when the DB lined up in front of you he had no chance lined up in front of who?

23:08Joe Johnson:you man the devil is a lie joke why I ain't play that up there you get a don't ever get too close to me when we would have a conversation cause I'm gonna talk to you all the way through the route okay huh Yeah, man. Joe, I ain't play no game, Joe. Hey, Joe.

23:23Shannon Sharpe:Joe, he was in this band. Ojo can sing really, really good, but they ain't have no number one hits because they wouldn't let him sing lead. So if they let him sing lead or they have more people like Ojo in the band, they'd have been really, really good. So in other words, he really needed to play an individual sport where he could just rely on himself. Because when you play football, you really got to rely on the 10 guys on offense, the 11 guys on defense, and the 11 guys that they trot out there every time on special teams. Ocho did his thing. But like he said, he couldn't tackle nobody. He couldn't get no picks.

24:01Shannon Sharpe:Couldn't sack the quarterback. Hey, Joe, we had some money. They got really good once they got caught. Well, Kittner wasn't bad. Kittner threw for 4 ,000. Kittner wasn't no bad quarterback. but they was bad enough that they got they got ended up getting Carson Palmer with the number one overall pick and then once Carson got in there they kind of took off from there yeah hey Joe we were good man

24:24Joe Johnson:we had some ups and downs

24:27Shannon Sharpe:hold on let that look I done pat you on the back now yeah I appreciate that I was pat you on the back I wasn't trying to beat dust out of your clothes I just pat you on the back you know what I'm saying Joe he want me to beat dust out of your clothes now damn I appreciate that man Ocho was really good but Ocho did his thing.

24:43Joe Johnson:I was nice now. I was a little something now. I was a little something to watch now. Yeah. Hey, Joe, I could fill up a stadium by myself, Joe. I would like that. You were going to put on his shoulder now. Oh, yeah, you're going to get that. You're going to get that, whether I was playing home or away. I'm going to fill your stadium up.

24:59Shannon Sharpe:See, that's what I need to be. I need to be a couple of years younger. Yeah. Because I'd have been talking to him on the sideline, talking right out of the game. Who?

25:08Joe Johnson:Unc, how you going to take my script and try to use it on me?

25:12Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, you do realize I was talking before you was born.

25:16Joe Johnson:Oh, what do you know where I'm from? Do you know where I'm from? Do you understand we start in Pee Wee, Pee Wee Optimist. That talking started at four years old. You wasn't doing that when you was four. When you was in four, you was out there in the country, you know, picking watermelon. You weren't talking like this. I came out the womb talking. Yeah, that's what I do. Hey, Joe, I'm telling you, Joe, you put me in the right environment. We're talking right out of the game, Joe. I'm saying y 'all ain't never play against each other? Yeah. Hey, Joe, I spanked him. He was younger than me. It don't matter.

25:55Joe Johnson:Joe, I spanked him when we played him. Every time. Joe, I showed up to the party, boy. Not the team that I was on, Joe.

26:04Shannon Sharpe:You was on the team? What you talking about? Joe, we already said you had 30-something yards, Ocho. That's all? What do you mean that's all?

26:17Joe Johnson:Yeah, I'm just saying I'm really not a 30-yard receiver. So the fact that I only had 30.

26:22Shannon Sharpe:And when you scored against the Broncos, Joe, I mean, Ocho, I was already out the game. The game was over. Hold on. Hold on. Whoa.

26:31Joe Johnson:Do you know you're not going to do that? Oh, no. The devil is alive because you've been out the game now for 20-something years. and every time the Broncos played.

26:38Shannon Sharpe:No, I said when the game that you played, when I was with the Broncos, and the game you scored on, you scored with like 20 seconds. The game was over. I was on the sideline drinking Kool-Aid. Well, hold on.

26:48Joe Johnson:Wait a minute.

26:49Shannon Sharpe:A game race sloshed around in my stomach.

26:51Joe Johnson:Joe? Hey, Joe, I think Unk might got amnesia because if I recall in 2005 against the Denver Broncos Monday night football, I went crazy, if I'm not mistaken. Well, I was retired. I was in the booth. I was sitting at a desk. What does that have to do? You just said I only scored against the Broncos in the last 30 seconds. I told y 'all we retired two decades. You just said I only scored in the Broncos in the last 30 seconds. That's not what I recall. No, no, no. I said when I was playing on the Broncos. Oh, okay. When Shannon. Okay, okay.

27:22Shannon Sharpe:When Shannon. I don't know what you did after I left.

27:25Joe Johnson:Yeah.

27:26Shannon Sharpe:But I'm saying. I do know you scored with like 35, 40 seconds. Left in the ballgame. I done got my shoes off. I got on flip flops. Okay. Okay. It sounds good. I got on shower shoes on the sideline. I done cut my tape off and everything. And you still in there playing.

27:43Joe Johnson:Nah.

27:44Shannon Sharpe:I don't think so. When you scored in the end, you were still there. Hey, look it up. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Look it up. I think it was either 2002, 2003. Joe, what's it up? Look it up, Joe. I ain't going to lie to you. I remember like it was yesterday. We beating the brakes off him.

28:01Joe Johnson:And then he going to try to celebrate. I never, hey, Joe, one thing I never do, I was always self-aware. I was always self-aware. Your ass don't pull it up. You heard me, Joe?

28:11Shannon Sharpe:No, you weren't self-aware with that one.

28:13Joe Johnson:Because I don't know why you scored a touchdown and want to celebrate. Hold on, I'm telling you how it was. I never do that. Hey, Joe, unless we scoring first or I'm scoring to tie, I'd never celebrate if I was scoring and we were losing. Never. Never. To me, that's a lack of self-awareness. And to me and myself, I look crazy because why the hell am I celebrating? there's nothing to celebrate for and we're not winning the game or actually tying the game. So that's something I always kept in the back of my mind. Well, you wouldn't win no game with me.

28:40Shannon Sharpe:But I'm just saying. Was it 0-3 or 0-2? I'm trying to think. It might have been 0-2. Nah, 0-2. I gave y 'all that work.

28:48Joe Johnson:That's all I know. 0-3.

28:56Joe Johnson:oh oh oh oh get it right Ash pull up the receipts Ash

29:07when did

29:07Shannon Sharpe:hold up when did he score that touchdown when did he score that touchdown

29:14Joe Johnson:yeah yeah

29:15Shannon Sharpe:hey Joe you see you see Ash put out the receipts Joe How's that? They can avoid that business. Yo, but see, hold on. The score was 30 to 10.

29:28Shannon Sharpe:The score was 30 to 3. Give the calories. He done did all that hard work. He got some cardio in the first four and a half, three and a half. No, I didn't. You just heard Ashley say I would give y 'all that work.

29:39Joe Johnson:You just heard Ashley say I would give y 'all that work.

29:41Shannon Sharpe:You caught a 23-yard touchdown. The score was 30 to 3. We done took our starters out. We ain't getting nobody hurt. What you want?

29:47Joe Johnson:Nope. The starters won out the game. They were not the game because what you're not going to do is you're not going to put no backups on me. No, you're not. No, you're not. I think the person, if I'm not mistaken, that was coming to me, he wore 24. He wore 24. That was who? And he double beat the whole game. Who, Delto O 'Neal? Nah. No. No.

30:07Shannon Sharpe:Champ wasn't there when I was there, Ocho. Okay. Champ came out, I was gone. Oh, who was it? Who was it then? It was Delto O 'Neal.

30:14Joe Johnson:Well, he got that work too. Who ended up playing with you in Cincinnati, if I'm not mistaken. He got that work. Anybody with a two in their number got that work for years straight, except Revis. Except Revis. I'm going to give him his credit. If I'm not mistaken, who? Who you giving credit to? Oh, Revis. That's it. That's it. Listen, hey, Joe. No, no, no, no, no, no. We didn't have Revis. No, no, no. I'm just saying. I was telling Joe, anybody with a two as their first number, got that work for 11, 12 years straight, Joe. I seen Revis. Oh, man, it was like a bad relationship that never turned out right.

30:54Joe Johnson:You hear me? Man, how you get to Revis

30:56Shannon Sharpe:Island and couldn't get off there?

30:57Joe Johnson:Huh?

30:58Shannon Sharpe:Let me find out you was Gilligan. You on Gilligan. He was on Gilligan. Hey, Joe, I got it.

31:03Joe Johnson:Joe, I got stuck, Joe. I ain't had my passport. He had defense like that, Joe? Yeah, I mean, listen. Hey, Joe, He was nice, Joe. He was nice. He was nice. He was nice. He was nice. I'm not going to say in life. I talk crap. I talk cash shit. But one thing I'm going to do, boy, when it comes to defense, I'm going to get up with it, give him his credit. And every time I see him, I give him his flowers. That year, he had a year, man. Oh, Joe. Everybody got it, Joe. That 2009 season, Joe? Yeah. That was an historic run that will never be repeated. Never be. Every week, he traveled with number one.

31:43I don't care.

31:44Joe Johnson:Hey coach I got it. Don't even worry about this.

31:46Shannon Sharpe:And nobody was getting a hundred. Nobody was getting a hundred. A hundred? He shut down Megatron. He shut down T.O. He shut down everybody.

31:54Joe Johnson:Calvin Johnson, Steve Smith, Andre Johnson. Nobody got over 50 boy. There's one person who consistently was able to give Revis that business and give him problems and that was Stevie Johnson. Stevie Johnson. Yeah played in Buffalo. Hey, Joe, Stevie was about six-foot and moved like he was five feet tall.

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37:11Shannon Sharpe:You had hell on your hands if you weren't twitching. The Browns quarterbacks, wow. The Browns quarterbacks are 0-17 in their first career starts since the team rejoined the NFL. This goes back to 1999. Let that sink in. A quarterback has never won their first NFL start in Cleveland, going back to 1999. So basically, that's 27 years. that's crazy work look at these names from Tim Couch to Spurgeon Wynn, Tom Brady still mad about that Spurgeon Wynn, Luke McCown, Charlie Fry, Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn Colt McCoy, Brandon Whedon, Thad Lewis, Johnny Manziel, Connor Shaw, Cody Kessler, Deshaun Kaiser, Kevin Hogan, Baker Mayfield, Dorian Thompson Robinson, and Dylan Gabriel that's

38:08Joe Johnson:crazy Ocho that's wild Maybe they just have bad luck in general. Maybe it's just organizational bad luck. Because to not have had a quarterback, I mean, they've had some success, but it was short-lived. It was short-lived that they're still in search of one that they can call their franchise quarterback. And that's why they were so eager to do what they did with Deshaun Watson because look what they had to deal with for so long. This is what they had to deal with for so long. That's why they were willing to throw whatever it was at Deshaun Watson because he understood the success that he had before, you know, those issues arose.

38:48Joe Johnson:And even after they arose, we still going to play him because we know what we're getting.

38:52Shannon Sharpe:You see the problem with Ocho? In Ocho, look at the years. 99, they had a starter. 2000, they had a different starter. 04, a different starter. 05, a different starter. 06, a different starter. 08, a different starter. You see a reoccurring theme, Mocho?

39:09Joe Johnson:Yeah, man.

39:10Shannon Sharpe:Joe, you see the reoccurring theme? Yeah. No continuity. You ain't just finna keep trotting quarterbacks out there year after year and think you gonna win? Look at that. Think about it. 12, different quarterback. 14, different quarterback. 14, different quarterback. I mean, somebody in the same season. 16, Cody Kessler. 17, Deshaun Kizer. 17, Kevin Hogan. 18, Baker Mayfield.

39:37Joe Johnson:hey also not crazy and you know what else too joe and unc not only different quarterbacks different head coaches different officer coordinators different plays having to continuously learn something new or learn a new system and not getting like unc said any continuity you know as an offense this is what happens this is what happens it's always something new so no one's ever to get acclimated and comfortable to one thing and this is what it will always look like turmoil.

40:02Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I agree. You can't cheat chemistry and continuity, man. You can't cheat that. You know what I mean? If you're coming in every year with a different quarterback or a different OC, a different head coach, I mean - Different system. Yeah, it's a different system, so it's hard to catch rhythm and timing. You know, that stuff takes a while, but I can see why there ain't no quarterback want - No.

40:25Joe Johnson:Want no game one. That's crazy. Yeah. Well, I know one thing, Unc. Shadour, he gets a chance to start. This is the opportunity he's been waiting on. You know, there's no more excuses. And he couldn't pick the better team to start against. Oh, yeah, yeah. Listen, you have a chance to make history. You have a chance to make history and change the narrative, you know. And if things go well, the talk's going to be good. If things don't go well, we're going to let it be known. Especially me. I've gotten really good at this Uncle Joe. I've gotten really good at being critical when people aren't playing well.

40:59Joe Johnson:Yeah, we got to talk about what we see. I'm not sugarcoating shit. If you go out there and shit it up, all excuses are out the window. You had a week to prepare. You had a week to get acclimated with the offense.

41:13Shannon Sharpe:And you're playing against the Raiders.

41:16Joe Johnson:Damn, that's insane.

41:18Shannon Sharpe:Just block 98.

41:19Joe Johnson:If y 'all make a mistake, block 98. Matter of fact, you can scheme him all game. You can scheme him a way to stop 9-8 all game. Chip him, double him, do whatever you need to do. The GIF should do a time to be able to do what he does best. Throw the ball. Shouldn't be no goddamn excuses.

41:37Shannon Sharpe:Because, boy, they threw him in against the Ravens. Them boys fighting for their lives over there.

41:46Shannon Sharpe:Well, I think the thing is, and plus he gets an opportunity. I think the biggest thing, Joe and Nocho, he gets an opportunity to work with those guys. So he'll understand how they get in and out of breaks. He'll understand the tempo and the speed in which they run their routes because that's something that you need to be in there to see because one guy, he might take a while, he might not get his head around. Ocho was a guy that got his head around real quick. So you know, hey, I can put this ball out before he come out of his break. I know as soon Ocho's snapping his head around. Other guys, he's like, bro, the ball will hit you inside your damn head if you don't get your head around now.

42:18Shannon Sharpe:You got to get in and out of those breaks. And I thought he threw the ball with some time. Yeah, he missed some throws. There's a couple of shallow crosses that he probably should have took. But he's the guy that wants to push the ball down the field. Their problem was they were unwilling to take chances. Gabriel was unwilling to take chances and push the ball down the field. It's hard for you to methodically three yards here, two yards there, five yards here, five yards, one yard. It's hard to methodically go down the field and win games without at some point in time taking a chance to put the ball down the field.

42:49Shannon Sharpe:it's just it's just hard to just do that every single down in and down out they got to have some consistency obviously they can't fall behind and take their new and take the running game completely away no but as long as they can keep the game i'm able to run some i can play action off of that ocho give him some stuff where i get down flat hey i get a flat route i get an over route i get a comeback you know give him stuff like that stuff that's gonna allow him to get the ball out of his hands real quick at times and there are other times that you're gonna have to Carl plays specifically so he can push the ball down the field.

43:23Right.

43:23Shannon Sharpe:And I think they'll have some success. Look, what's it called? Might have another four or five-sat game. Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett. That offensive line, did you see the offensive line? You see what the Cowboys do? The Cowboys ain't got two players combined that's as good as Miles Garrett, let alone one.

43:43Joe Johnson:Yeah, you're right.

43:43Shannon Sharpe:And he ate. so I mean Quinny Williams had a sack and a half or Diggy Zua had two I mean everybody was getting it on action so I can just imagine you know what

43:58Joe Johnson:if you think about it on as good as the defense is this just might be the game this just might be the game where that 0-17 losing streak for quarterback starting their first time it might be snap there's a good chance if he protects the ball and knowing the defense the defense will get the ball back for him many of times on Sunday there's a good chance hey the defense

44:30Shannon Sharpe:should create some great field position for him because Geno is prime Geno is really high up on turning the ball over I don't know if he's leading the league in this session but he damn close put it like this i don't know if he's leading the room on show but he at the table where the guy that's leading the lead in interception gino at the table having a conversation with him you know i'm right behind you i'm probably gonna tie you up this week so don't get too comfortable having that lead yeah should george should door just needs to be should do it like i said get the ball out of your hands and don't take listen should door i understand like you know you're looking to make the big play but it's okay to throw the ball out of bounds you're not gonna outrun you weren't blessed with your dad's speed he weren't so that belly and back you're not gonna outrun these dns you're not you're not all you're gonna do if you're a field goal range you're gonna take your team out of field goal range make it manageable let it if you take a sack take a sack on second down don't you know now you put yourself further behind the sticks on third downs.

45:38Shannon Sharpe:They need to stay in front of the sticks. That's the thing that you want, like young quarterbacks, Joe, you want them to stay in front of the sticks. You want it second and five, second and six. You want it third and one to three. Third at the bare maximum, third and five. You start getting third, eight to 10, 12, 13, you asking for trouble. You're asking for trouble. I believe in him, man. I think he's going to do pretty well this weekend considering And, you know, with him having a week with the ones, right, the number ones, he hadn't done that all year. And I think he's just a young, confident dude, bro.

46:13Shannon Sharpe:I feel like he knows this is his moment, and I feel like he's going to step up and shine. Yeah. Yeah. He waited a long time, what, 12 weeks to get his opportunity. It didn't seem like it was going to come. Yeah. But, you know, hey, now the opportunity is here. Yeah. My brother said, hey, man, I ain't getting no running. They ain't getting – he said, hey, John Elway going to call your number now. Yeah. Just make sure when he calls your number, you pick the phone up. You ready? There you go. You ready? There you go. Okay. It took him 12 weeks for him to call his line, call his number. Mm-hmm. Shadour, answer the phone.

46:52Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Answer the phone. That's going to be a good one. Shadour spoke about getting first-team reps. I'm truly excited for that. knowing that I have a piece of the office to say so and how things fit my eye and place and the players exactly where they need to be, seeing how that come in and out of route, seeing the structure of the old linemen, seeing their set, just having a feeling I'm more of a field type of a person. So that's how I learned. That's how I do everything. I'm not just a, I'm a watch it. It's just going to happen. No, I got to be out there, feel it. I got to move around. I like so many details that it takes for me to feel my best and play my best.

47:29Shannon Sharpe:I'm doing everything in my power, and this team's doing everything in their power to help me get prepared. Yeah. Ocho? Yeah.

47:38Joe Johnson:What do you think his stats going to be? You know what? I don't want to say. I don't want to jinx it. I don't want to jinx it. You don't want to jinx it? Yeah, I don't want to jinx it. I just know that Stefanski understands what Shadour's strengths are going to be. He's going to understand what Shadour does well. So the game plan going to that game is going to be dedicated and geared towards what he's able to do well. For one, that's getting the ball down the goddamn field. Having a healthy balance of being able to run the ball so play action works as well when they do want to throw. And make sure they cannot, under any circumstances, be one-dimensional.

48:18Joe Johnson:They can't be one-dimensional. So a healthy balance of the run, a healthy balance of the pass. and once that young boy get in the rhythm and get any kind of confidence, Joe, man, shh.

48:29Shannon Sharpe:I think that comes with the prep, you know, throughout the week. Yeah. You know, especially with the ones, getting that under your belt, that's going to create a lot of confidence for that young boy, man. Yeah. You know, going into the game. And I think that's going to help him, Ocho.

48:41Joe Johnson:Yeah, and the play call is going to look completely different because you got a quarterback that can do something different that he couldn't. It's going to look completely different.

48:49Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Ocho, you remember? Joe, you remember your first start?

48:54Joe Johnson:Ocho, what you remember about your first start? San Diego Chargers. San Diego Chargers in San Diego, obviously, when they had the baseball field. Rodney Harrison. Jack and Murph, huh? Yep, yep. Rodney Harrison, Junior Seau, Ryan McNeil, who went to UM, played defensive back. Yeah, went to the U? Yep. I scored my first touchdown on Ryan McNeil in the corner of the end zone, and the scar is still there. because I landed on, I don't know if it was third base or home plate and skinned up. That infield. Yeah, infield and skinned up my whole arm. It's still there. It's still there. That's how deep that cherry was.

49:37Joe Johnson:Yeah, that was dope. That was my first start.

49:40Shannon Sharpe:Joe, you remember your first start? Yeah. My first start was obviously my rookie year. It was second game of the season, Uncle Ocho. I was playing behind Eric Williams, who was a small forward for the Boston Celtics at the time.

49:55Joe Johnson:Yeah.

49:56Shannon Sharpe:Well, he injured his knee in the first game. So second game of the season, coach was like, we're going to start you at the two. It was against the Milwaukee Bucks with Ray Allen, Sam Cassell, Big Dog. Oh, man. I came out there ahead of time. You hear me? I put up about 23. Okay. Yeah, young rookie. I wasn't my little 20 years old out there, man, out there getting to it. You hear me? Yeah. You dropped a little 20 for a little easy 20 piece on them. Hey, look. See, all you need, especially when you're young like that, is to see those type of performances just to let you know, okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

50:30Shannon Sharpe:I belong right here. I belong. I belong. I belong. Oh, yeah. And next thing you know, boy, you be putting on a show. For real. I like it. Man, I just kept saying, man, man, they need to put me in. They need to put me in. I was just saying, oh, Joe, man, they need to put me in. I can make some plays. I can make some plays. Yeah. Lord and behold we get ready to play the Chiefs we get ready to play the Chiefs the Chiefs got Albert Lewis, they got Kevin Ross they got Deron Cherry they got Martin Bayless they got Neal Smith Derrick Thomas Big Joe Phillips oh man they got Percy Snow Dan Salamore

51:14Joe Johnson:I say

51:17Shannon Sharpe:I said put me in not against them let me get somebody that ain't them they got like the number one number two defense in all the football so I'm like yeah we gonna put you we gonna start you and we gonna put you in I said oh okay I said so you know I'm like so what I'm gonna do so they say hey we want you to line up outside and we get into we get into like five inside the five of the inside we gonna throw you a fade I like Adam Lewis went to the Pro Bowl Kevin Ross went to the Pro Bowl so you mean to tell me y 'all gonna put a rookie in and say go run a fade on one of them yeah yeah just jump up over the top of him y 'all say that like that's easy like yeah hold on what happened I ain't no no better I was like oh oh so I I told my brother but your boy gonna get the They gotta play for you, boy.

52:14Shannon Sharpe:What's it called? Hey, they say jump ball. Oh, Joe, I'm geek. Jump ball. You know what I'm saying, don't you? Yeah. Okay. Joe, I get out there. They call him rock because he was compact, but he was strong. He got his hands on you. You call hell getting off him. Yeah. But anyway, they didn't expect me to shake him like I did. Yeah. Because they thought it was going to be physical, and so just throw a jump ball. Joe, how about I beat him off the ball clean? I said, okay, he going to live on the top. I'm going to catch that. Ha! Got him.

52:48Joe Johnson:Yeah.

52:50Shannon Sharpe:He back shoulder, Ocho. Oh! So I really had to jump up over the top of him to get it. Did you get it? I got it. Oh, you caught it. I got it. I caught it, yeah. Hey, hey. I walk into the line. Ocho, Joe, I walk into the line. I said, Lord, if you help me catch this ball, you ain't got to let me catch no more my whole career. I done made promises. Hey, hey, listen. Hey. Hey. Because ain't nothing like that. Man, I caught it, Ocho. Yeah. And from that moment, that gave me the confidence because I beat a pro bowler for my very first touchdown. So that gave me the confidence that I belonged. Yeah. And I'm like, and I remember getting back, and I remember going to the sideline.

53:38Shannon Sharpe:Because everybody came and like, man, make a good job. That's where they make a play. And Selvin John told me, see, that's like you. You can do that. I said, I can do that? Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, I'm him. Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, that's me. Wow. I don't know why y 'all surprised. I'm surprised. It's cool. Hey, I was trying to play. Get what I'm saying, cool, though. Hey. I tried to play it cool. Get what I'm saying. Hey, I was so good. I said, hey, get in there. They throw me a short cross. Guy hit me in the back, I fumble it.

54:19Shannon Sharpe:I know I can't have no prosperity. I wasn't going to be able to have no prosperity. But then they put me back in. I said, hey, you just got to hold on to the ball. It's going to happen quick. Oh, yeah. Ocho, I run a goal ball against cover, too.

54:37Joe Johnson:Yeah.

54:38Shannon Sharpe:Man, I'm talking about like, soon as the ball hit my hands, safety hit me in the back. I held on to it, though. Okay. I held on to it, though, old Joe. Okay, okay, okay. I got to have the ball and threw a yeah. That was like, man, I really, I really. And come to find out, I would go back and listen to the TV version of it. Yeah. And the announcer said, Coach Reeves is really high on this kid. think this kid has a lot of potential. Yeah. So he didn't tell me that. Oh, I got potential. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay.

55:16Joe Johnson:Hey, one thing about it. Hey, Joe, I mean, Joe and Unc and those in the chat that have played sports, one thing about it, when you're not sure of yourself, you know, and even if you are confident and you go out there and you perform well and whatever it is that you do, whatever your respective craft may be, and you make a play or you do something good and then you do it again and you start to build that confidence. Once you got confidence, it's a wrap. It's a wrap from that point on and you just stack them one on top of another. And at some point it just becomes natural. It becomes consistent.

55:52Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Hey, look, as a rookie, man, you play so hard, bro. I'm talking about so hard because listen, I just remember being out there on the court thinking like, man, I'm out here with playing against Michael Jordan, Trace McGrady, Vince Carter. I'm playing with Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce. I remember being in so much of awe that I was like, I'm telling y 'all, bro, I couldn't really sleep as a rookie. I used to be so geek for the moment. I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait. So you just wanted to play hard as crap because I never wanted Coach to have a reason to take me out the game. I don't care what it was.

56:28Shannon Sharpe:I was out there playing hard as I don't know and trying to get as many deflections as I can. Hands everywhere. I ain't lying.

56:34Joe Johnson:Oh, that's funny.

56:35Shannon Sharpe:Hey, it's just like when you see, man, I remember the first time we played in Denver was a preseason game. We played the 49ers. Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jerry Rice. All them. Roger Craig, John. All them. I'm like, damn. I'm really on the field. I'm really in the NFL. Damn. That's Jerry. I'm looking at Jerry like, that's Jerry. I'm like, that Joe Montana. Yeah. Yo, that Ronnie lied. Yeah. I'm like, I caught a touchdown in the preseason, Ocho, and then hit the hammer on him. You was, hold on. You were dancing in the preseason? In the preseason? Boy, look here. I'm from an HBCU. I just caught a touchdown on the defending Super Bowl chair.

57:30Shannon Sharpe:I was going crazy and it was televised it was a Monday night game it was televised they saw me everybody in Savannah State I know they watching my hometown they watching I told y 'all I told y 'all sharp like that man I was so happy I met my cell phone bill probably$700. Because you know back then cell phone bill, they charge you about a minute. It was like$3 a minute, Joe.

58:04Joe Johnson:Oh, yeah.

58:05Shannon Sharpe:It was like$3,$4 a minute. I mean, a phone bill.

58:10Joe Johnson:Hey, quick.

58:11Shannon Sharpe:High. I had that big old brick, too. I don't know why I had a brick, bro. I was a seventh-round draft pick. I got a cell phone bill.

58:19Joe Johnson:Oh, yeah. The Motorola. Eight something. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, that big brick.

58:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they had the big brick. Now they had the one that you had to pouch. You had to carry it like a pouch. You had to pouch with it, yeah. Yeah. That you can carry on your purse, and you can just hit it, yeah. And then they came with the portable. What's up, Joe? Was it free on the weekends? That came later. At first, it wasn't like that. You had to pay. And it was all, like, if you go out of the area, it was Roman. Roman charges. So you had to pay a Roman charges. Roman charges. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Man, the Roman charges, man, that thing be my...

58:54Joe Johnson:it'd be crazy

58:55Shannon Sharpe:I ain't know I didn't know nothing about no Roman charge they didn't explain it to you back then they don't explain it to you now that this is what you get if you go over your data they didn't explain it phone this is what it costs I ain't know nothing about Roman I ain't know if you go out and saying Roman with extra like$6 you get a call I'm big balling I'm taking my phone on the road that's Roman you got money

59:22Joe Johnson:what? Hey, listen, I forgot what service provider I was with. Hey, I don't know money. Yeah, I forgot what service provider I was with, Joe and Unc, but I understood. I forgot what I was with too, Ocho. I had him explain to me about the minutes, and they said, well, if you use a certain amount of minutes and you hold on to it, they don't use your phone that much this month, the minutes gonna roll over. Roll over. Roll over to the next month. I say, yeah. Yeah. So I'm gonna make sure I don't go over a certain amount of minutes so I got a little bit extra going to the next month. Joe, hey, them were some days back then, boy.

59:56Joe Johnson:It don't work like that. You been to burn through them minutes so quick. Quick.

59:59Shannon Sharpe:Man, what? You burned through them minutes so quick. And then once they brought that weekend after 7 o 'clock and weekend free, hey, I call y 'all at 705.

1:00:12Joe Johnson:You ain't get no call during the day. On the phone all night long.

1:00:17Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I call you when it's free. And then the weekend, oh, you burn that thing up. Hey, I'm telling you Hey, today thing get hot on the side of your Oh yeah, you got

1:00:25Joe Johnson:Hold on, and Joe Don't have no girlfriend though On the weekend, y 'all be on the phone You be on the phone all day All night Hold on, you wake up The phone's sitting on your chest Hello? Oh, you still there? Yeah Hey, there was some days Hey, Joe, I know you did that It was the days, though, Ocho. It was the days that you ain't going to lie.

1:00:50Shannon Sharpe:Man, come on now.

1:00:51Joe Johnson:Hey, on the phone all night long. Don't be talking about nothing.

1:00:55Shannon Sharpe:Ain't talking about nothing. Nothing. Six, seven hours straight. Man. They made the phone. This phone got smaller, and they had the little clip that you have on your side, like that Star Tech. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:01:07Joe Johnson:And the side kick, too, yeah? Aw, man.

1:01:09Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:01:10Joe Johnson:Aw, them some good memories.

1:01:11Shannon Sharpe:Let me ask you this, Joe and Ocho. Which game do you think will have the most views, Browns Raiders or Eagles Cowboys?

1:01:22Shannon Sharpe:Browns Raiders.

1:01:23Joe Johnson:Probably Browns Raiders.

1:01:25Shannon Sharpe:I mean, listen. That's a lot of people. Man, that's a lot of people looking forward to seeing Shadour play. Yeah. They are. Browns Raiders. He got his fingers in the early window, so they're not really going head to head because of the Fox game, the Cowboys-Eagles, I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think that's a 4 o 'clock game. Is that 425? 425, right. And so what you call him is in that 105 window. Yeah. So all of the one across. This is the Cowboys, man. Hey, did you see all those Cowboys fans Monday night at that stadium? I did. Yeah, I did. Did you see all those Cowboys fans? I flew out. We flew out.

1:01:59Shannon Sharpe:Jordan and I flew out on Tuesday morning. Uh-huh. Joe, Ocho, I was like, hold on. They fans weren't going to Dallas. They flying to Atlanta. So I can just imagine the people going back to Dallas. I can imagine the people going elsewhere because there were so many Cowboy fans in that airport. So many Cowboy fans. I'm talking about Cowboy hats, Cowboy boots, that jersey, CD jersey. I'm like, oh, my goodness. You people traveling, man. They travel. The Steelers. Oh, man, they love the Cowboys. Hey, the Steelers. Hold on. They're both in the late. Oh, actually, they moved them. The Colts Chief is in the early window.

1:02:40Shannon Sharpe:So the Colts Chief is the 1 o 'clock game, and now the Browns Raiders and the Cowboys Eagle are both in the same 425 with them. Oh, shoot. It's going to be interesting. Yeah. I still think the Browns and Raiders are going to have the most views. And the way they do that, see, you can't get what you call them, like sometimes you can have, they'll have, okay, you can watch this game, this game, this game, this game. They're not going to do it with these two games. You got to pick one. You got to pick one. Why it's so hard to watch the game now, man? You got to download eight apps. You sure do. Guess what, Joe?

1:03:17Shannon Sharpe:Guess what? When that new contract come up, you're going to have to download some more. Yeah. That's how they get it. Well, you already got Netflix, but Netflix is going to want a package. That's how they get it. That's how these franchises, you see all these franchises, how they skyrocket in prices. I mean, a Broncos owner, he just bought the Broncos for$4.5 million. Now they're worth$6.8 billion. In five, six years, they've increased$2.3 billion. The Cowboys worth, what,$11,$12,$13 billion. Jerry bought it for$135,$140 million. Hey, that's why, because the revenue, there's not, look, there are a lot of sports.

1:03:59Shannon Sharpe:There's baseball, there's basketball, but don't nothing move the needle in North America like NFL football. NFL loves some football. And two reasons. Fantasy and sports betting. Because you watching intently. Are they going to cover Ocho? And then now the prop bets? Man, sometimes you don't even care about the game. I just want to see if C.D. gets six catches. I just want to see if C.D. gets 75 yards. I want to see what Chase is. Hey, that's why I have to stop betting. That's what I care about. I don't care. All that other stuff. I'm trying to get these props. Hey, look, Ojo, that's why I have to stop betting.

1:04:39I can't even watch the game in peace because I got my best.

1:04:42Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to hit. I'm like, man. And look, it's like when you're watching it intensively like that, you ain't never going to hit. But boy, let you mess around, make a bet, and you end up falling asleep or something. Boy, you be right on the number. Mm-hmm. Every time. I have to stop watching. I have to That's how they do When you play When you play The cash three Hey I know you happy Happy about what I know you happy I know Your birthday came I said what What birthday That's what my sister called me Yeah I know you probably had it I said had what Your birthday I said huh My birthday hit 0626 Cash four I had You know what I'm saying I had a straight A straight box Yeah A little cool A little cool$12 ,500.

1:05:29Shannon Sharpe:A little$12 ,500 I hit. Then the cash three, my aunt's birthday, 7-11. Yeah. I played it. I had it 10 times straight. It came. That's$5 ,000. They tried to run it back past me, Joe, the next day. Because I played it that evening on Sunday. And I played it again. You know what? Y 'all gonna try to run it back again. Hey, guess what? They came and brought it right back. Brought it right back, Joe. And guess what? I was sitting on it again. another 5 ,000 yeah Joe they can't get on my way

1:06:00Joe Johnson:matter of fact you know what I'm gonna do that now you just gave me an idea I'm gonna play my grandma and my mama birthdays I'm gonna play my grandma and my mama birthdays probably play maybe do the year they were born I'm gonna go play

1:06:16Shannon Sharpe:that's normally what I do you play your birth you can play it straight I played it straight I had it two times straight and one-time combo. Combo probably costs you$2 because it's extra because now any way it comes, those numbers come. It can come 6-6-2-0. It can come 6-6-0-2. Any combination, and you'll get half of what you normally would get. Oh, yeah, I'll hit a lick on it. Ocho, Bills wide receiver Keon Coleman, is reportedly likely to be inactive for the second consecutive game. Keon is expected to sit tomorrow against Texans according to Eric Turner of Cover One. Earlier in the week, Coach Sean McDermott said he needs to see Keon show growth to get back on the field.

1:07:04Shannon Sharpe:On Thursday night against the Texans, the Bills are likely to go with Joshua Palmer, Elijah Moore, Tyrell Shavers, Khalil Shakir, and Gabe Davis as active.

1:07:14Joe Johnson:Hey, listen, they're going with the veterans. They're going with the veterans. Hey, listen, obviously as a rookie, you know, you want to come in and make your impact, but they have players that are a little bit more impactful than you are and bring a little bit more to the table than you do. So, you know, obviously, I mean, at this point, we're going into week 12, week 13, whatever it may be. I mean, it's already set in stone. I mean, anything that you could have shown or proved that you could do, you haven't done it to date, which is why they're comfortable making you inactive, showing you that we can get the job done without you, especially as productive as they were offensively last week without you.

1:07:54Joe Johnson:Hell, you know that. We don't need it. I got a great story. I got a great story to tell you and Joe. Yeah, we had what? Five, six touchdowns and you didn't play. So, well, hell, but what's the point of your point? Six. 317 yards. Yeah. Hey, so, hey, you know what that means? To me, all it says is Keon Coleman, young boy, I know you're going to see this. You know, I love you to death. We talk all the time. come on down here with me in the offseason come on down here with me in the offseason I guarantee you they'll never sit you down again even if you do miss a meeting you'll be too valuable for them and what you bring to the table on a Sunday for them to sit you down come on down here work with your boy now

1:08:37Shannon Sharpe:I remember my rookie season Dennis Smith number 49 Ocho we call him Kahuna and Kahuna I mean, he was one of the guys that from the time I got there, he always, I don't know what it was, but the veteran players, a lot of the veteran players that were really good took a liking to me. Him, Elway, I mean, veteran players, Huna got there in 81. John got there obviously in 83 with the trade through Baltimore. But the best took a liking to me. And I remember him saying, Sharp, never let them see they can win without you. Oh, Joe, that's why I shot up a lot of times, because I didn't want my backup to get in, and then all of a sudden he played well, and then all of a sudden they figured they could move on from me.

1:09:22Shannon Sharpe:So that was also another reason that I shot up. But I'll never forget him saying that. He said, Sharp, never let them see that they can win without you. If you notice, who adopts that? The quarterbacks. Brady take every rep. Peyton Manning took every rep. Brett Favre took every rep. Drew Brees took every rep. You're not going to see if that guy can play or he can't play. Right. Because I'm never going to give you an opportunity to let you see if he can play. You just got to go on your instinct because I ain't coming out of there. See, what Keon Coleman did, he allowed them to let Terrell Shavers get on the field.

1:09:54So, we can win without him.

1:09:58Shannon Sharpe:Now, once they find out they can win without you, guess what they'll do, Ocho? Win without you and they'll move on. Now, the coach says, I need to see growth. We having a conversation about a guy in his second year that shows growth. Now, I'm going to tell you, look, got a great personality. Hey, the best. But after a while, people are going to start, they're going to be laughing at you. You're talking about, guess what, this jacket. Guess where I got this jacket from. I'm going to go back and guess. It's funny. Key, key, key. But at the end of the day, you better be putting some points on the board.

1:10:27Shannon Sharpe:You better be getting some yards. You better be getting some catches. You better get some sacks, some interceptions. You better do something other than make them laugh because they're going to say, you need to go to the improv. You need to be at the laugh factory because the football field ain't where you need to be. Right. At the end of the day, as my good friend Glow said, the day gonna end. And when it ends, you better have catches, yards, and touchdowns if you play on the opposite side of football as a skilled position player. And they not playing. They not. Hey, Ocho, it's too much money involved because before you know it, they're gonna have to make an investment.

1:11:01Shannon Sharpe:20, 25, 30, 35,$40 million. and they say, hold on, you're doing this and you're on your rookie contract. What's going to happen if we give you$30 million, Ojo?

1:11:12Joe Johnson:Yeah, you're right. You've got to be special. There's got to be something about you, Joe. There's got to be something about you as a receiver that separates you. Everybody play receiver. Everybody can run. Everybody can catch. What is it about you that makes you that much more valuable and better than the next man? It's got to be one thing. It ain't got to be a bunch. There's got to be one thing that separates you from everybody else. Hey, Unk, Joe, you know on every NFL team, there's a number one receiver and there's a number two receiver. There's something about that number one receiver that the number two can't do.

1:11:45Joe Johnson:Whatever it may be, they both play the same position, but one is a little better than the other. You have to find that one niche. You got just one, Joe. That's it. That's all it takes. And they got to find it. His personality is so big. It's so big. if we can get his game on the field to match his personality. You ain't got to match it, though. Oh, my God. Hey, Joe, I'm talking about his two players I want to work with so bad, Joe. So bad because I know if I can get them anywhere close to how their personality is in front of that camera off the field, we talk about all world. We talk about all world.

1:12:18Joe Johnson:They can be in a conversation of top five based on if they can get their skill set up to par to match their personality. Yeah. John Coleman is one. The other one is Xavier Leggett. Hey, listen. Hey, them boys electric when that camera's in front of them, boy. If I can get their game to match their personality, man. Okay, Ocho, I like Keon Coleman.

1:12:42Shannon Sharpe:And this could be a wake-up call for him. You know, for him to be a healthy scratch again, like you know, you know, what could potentially be coming next down the pipe. Man, this should make him really look at himself in the mirror and get to work and be like, man, when I get back out there, I got to get them boys held. You know what I mean? So I'm hoping he takes some good from this, bro, because I seen him over there dancing and all that when he knew he was out. Hey, look. That irked me. Man, I tell my son who went to college, I say, hey, bro, they watching you. Even when you don't think they watching you, boy, they watching you.

1:13:21Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they watching you. So you sit over there and mope, pout, and do all that. Man, them folks watching, man. Always. We've all been here. the longer you go without something, the easier it is to be without something. The longer they play without Keon in that lineup, the easier it becomes for them to play without him in the lineup. I'll give you a prime example. You saw they say CD and pick went out. Now, if that's the third, fourth, and fifth receiver, they're not even playing. But that's the one and two receiver. They miss a series. You see the difference? Jimmy Johnson say, Jimmy Johnson cut a guy for sleeping in the meeting.

1:13:59Shannon Sharpe:The reporter said, well, Jimmy, if that was Troy and he was sleeping in the meeting, what would you have done? He said, I woke his ass up. One guy get cut, the other guy get woken up. Ask Mike, what about, you know, you say you lead the players if they're not there. Well, what if it's TD? What if it's Sharp? What if it's Elway? Well, that's the one thing about charting the flight. They'll wait on you. We're going to wait. but you understand the level of importance by some of the things that you can get away with but I'm going to be on time because I need to be on the back of the plane to make sure when everybody else get on I see what they're wearing so I can cut their ass up when they got on some bulljive and that's what my job was, get to the plane early so I can see what you got on you know if you got on bus 2 that's what sharp was that's what them jonahs were if you got on some bulljive don't you get on bus 2 We had coaches getting on our bus.

1:14:56Shannon Sharpe:Man, I just want to see what 84 going to say about what such and such got on. Come to the right place. I'm going to tear his ass up. But, Keon, don't you – don't you – hey, let us cut you. Don't you give us a reason to cut you. Yeah. They will. Boy, do you understand? There's a guy in college right now, won't Keon Coleman spot. There's a guy in high school, want to be a starting receiver, want to be a receiver on the Buffalo Bills. and high school, bro. And got his head down working. These guys, this ain't no doctor, no lawyer. You don't get no 30-year career in the NFL. They replace every year the turnover.

1:15:36Shannon Sharpe:That's why the average NFL career is 2.3 years. Even when you get a guy like Aaron Rodgers, they got 20 seasons. Even you got a guy like Mercedes Lewis, they got 20 seasons. And 15 and 18, the average NFL career is 2.3 years. That's it. So how many guys, in order for that 20 and 18 and 15, Ocho, to drag it down to 2.3, that means a lot of guys playing one year or not even playing at all. At all. Absolutely. Hey, look at it. Look at the NBA. It's 450 guys every year, not just this year, not last year, every year. So if they got 50 new guys coming in every year, guess what? They got to have at least 50 going out.

1:16:14Shannon Sharpe:50 guys got to go. It's 450 guys. There's only 450 guys every year, bro.

1:16:21Joe Johnson:Hey, that's why you got to stay on top of your game. That's why you got to continuously train.

1:16:25Shannon Sharpe:That's it.

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