Nightcap Hour 1: Joe Burrow keeps DROPPING HINTS of UNHAPPINESS + Tua BENCHED for Quinn Ewers in Miami + Ocho got his GIRL TAKEN by a HAITIAN + Cam Ward WANTS CONTROL

17:28Joe Johnson:I understand what you're saying. I don't think Joe understands how blessed he is from an offensive perspective. I understand we talk about the offensive line, the offensive line being bad, But with those receivers he has at his disposal, having Jamar Chase, who is arguably the best receiver in the NFL, having Tee Higgins, who is a good, solid 1A as a receiver and to leave that organization despite what may be going on. And what makes me nervous, Joe and Unc, is hearing Joe talk the way he's talking. And the small words that I shared with him at the Ravens game before the game and pregame, I walked up to him and I asked him, are you okay?

18:13Joe Johnson:And he said he was good. And I said, don't scare me like that again. And he looked at me with a smile and he winked. And he went to working out. Then he comes out today with what he said today. and it puts me in a situation and remembering when Carson Palmer was so fed up to the point where he said, you know what, I'm not coming back. Either you guys trade me, let me go, cut me, or if you don't decide to do that, I'd rather retire than come back and play for my Cincinnati Bengals. Copenhagen's spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco. Made for welders. Stuck behind masks. More mechanics stuck on a fused spark plug.

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21:39Joe Johnson:you know hey Joe he retired Joe he refused to come back because he felt it was that bad that the organization wasn't building a competitive team to win he felt they weren't going in the right direction to compete for Lombardi and he said I'm not coming back and Joe he really quarterbacks make that kind of money you know I'm not coming back he literally didn't come back

22:03Shannon Sharpe:how much say do you think Joe Burrell has as far as personnel or as far as decisions being made in that organization?

22:12Joe Johnson:I think a lot of say. I don't think he has as much say.

22:15Shannon Sharpe:I think he'd have much say. Let me ask you a question. How much say did Tom Brady have? With all those Super Bowl wins, with all those playoffs, how much say did he have in New England? Now, juxtapose that. How much did he say did he have when he went to Tampa?

22:32Joe Johnson:Well, he got Gronk there. What about AB? He got AB there, too. Hold on. Hey, when it was time for Chase and T to get paid, who stood on that table for him right away?

22:44Shannon Sharpe:Me and you could have got Chase paid. The thing is with Higgins, when you look at Higgins' contract, Ocho, and this is not a disrespect to his agent, that's a horrible contract. That's basically a one-year contract. That's a one-year contract. That ain't nothing. That's one year they can get out from under this contract in a year with nothing. With no substantial penalty. The whole point of getting money up front, Ochoa, is to get the security. And that buys you time. So they just can't arbitrarily, really, nearly just say, okay, yeah, we good. It didn't work out. I believe there's a greater chance that T.

23:18Shannon Sharpe:Higgins hits the market again than he comes back. That's just me. When you look at – go look at his contract and you tell me. I guarantee you won't find one other agent other than his own that says this is a good contract. Right. But I just think sometimes guys have – Peyton had a lot of say. when he went to Denver. A lot of say. And that's what happened. And Joe Burrow is that kind of guy. He would have a lot of say in personnel moves when he got there.

23:50Joe Johnson:Yeah, I tell you one thing. And I don't think he had that much say with personnel moves when he first got there. You got to get your feet wet. He's now a proven player. He's a player that's gotten the Cincinnati Bengals to the goddamn Super Bowl since 1988. They might not have won the game, but as a proven player, as a quarterback, as a franchise quarterback at that, I'm sure he has some say. Now, maybe not on the defense end because that's not his repertoire. That's not his area of expertise. But I can tell you where the say would be. It would be on that offensive motherfucking line. It would be at the receiver position.

24:24Joe Johnson:Do Brady have his feet wet? Listen, outside of that, nothing else should be a worry for the quarterback. But you can't pay everybody, Ocho. Who are you telling? hey Joe you ain't got to tell me I understand how the salary cap works I also understand the fact that you can't pay everybody there are going to be some weak links yeah you got to draft really well especially when you pay and you can't keep and once they become good Ocho you can't keep them all yeah hey listen Joe everybody can't be Howie Rosen everybody can't be Jeffrey Lurie like they are phenomenal and I don't know if it's goddamn luck at drafting the right players paying them at the right time

25:09Shannon Sharpe:pay them early

25:11Joe Johnson:that's what New England did so well Ocho

25:13Shannon Sharpe:think about they would always pay you so early you're like look out all this money and then one year later you're like boy that's a terrible contract but I got your ass on the contract for another four years so deal with it look at Kansas City they had to let LeJarrius Sneed go Ocho They couldn't pay him. They had to let Tyreek go, Ocho. They couldn't pay him. I think it was Gay, the middle linebacker. They had to let him go. You can't keep everybody. You're going to lose some people. And that's where you have to draft. And not your fourth rounders. Your team has really made like the third through the sixth round.

25:49Shannon Sharpe:Can I get some bargain guys? Some guys that's not going to cost me a whole lot of money? They're going to be able to fill in and play. and that's what Kansas City did early on. Those guys were able to play. But you start having injuries and the injuries just piled up and piled up. And I think the thing is when you're winning, Ocho, it masks a lot of things because a lot of times you're like, well, we won the Super Bowl. Why do we need to change anything? It wasn't until this season when it totally, when the, look, the car,

26:26Shannon Sharpe:now after 10 minutes of that, and finally crank, you ain't going to do nothing, Ocho. When it crunk, it's still good. It's not until it puts you down your ass down side of the road. You say, you know what? It wasn't until the wheels completely fell off the Chiefs this year that I think Brent Beach and Andy Reid realized we've got to retool this thing. We've squeezed all we could out of this roster the way it's concurrently constructed. And you look at the dollar figure that they got. I saw something today, and I don't know if it's true or not, Ocho. 80 % of their cap is tied up in eight players Eight It's a 53 man roster Ocho Yeah Yeah

27:10Joe Johnson:I don't know Joe make me nervous You should be nervous

27:15Shannon Sharpe:Every other team Every other team ear is perked up Hey you know how your dog can be sleeping And all of a sudden you make a noise You see his ears start twitching Yeah

27:26Joe Johnson:wait a minute hold on hold on hold on hold on this is one thing about it old man old man Mr. Brown you can be as mad as you want to what you're not gonna do is you're not gonna work and fiddle your way up out of there you're not gonna talk your way up out of there you're not gonna bully no you're definitely not gonna bully him that ain't gonna happen hold on you just told us what did Carson do oh yeah if Joe gonna sit out and not come back then that's what he gonna have to do cause you ain't gonna bully that man upstairs else not that one not hey hey joe old school oh he's definitely old joe old school man nah listen don't don't get on his bad side you keep you keep doing the goddamn interviews saying all this all this craziness now you're gonna take that as a goddamn insult now i understand you frustrated about your injuries i understand the fact that you know um we're not winning right now understand the fact that our defense is bad but we paying you good dollar top dollar 50 something 50 something a year Joe 55 a year Joe and you stay you riding here with these goddamn riddles and all that yeah I can show you better than I can tell you alright

28:37Shannon Sharpe:hey look if they have to get off Joe if they do get off Joe it ain't like Ojo maybe it's time for Joe to start fresh somewhere new you know maybe he needs a fresh air Joe ain't trying to hear that Joe He got too much emotion involved. That's why he can't think straight. You know what I'm saying? You got to take your emotions out, bro, so you can think clearly. Yeah, he going to be all right. Ocho, I'll give you a prime example. Look at the Lions. All them guys, they drafted. They drafted Pinesu, Jameer Gibbs. They got Montgomery in free agency. They drafted – what's the burn of the speed guy, Ocho?

29:20Shannon Sharpe:The receiver. Jamison Williams. Jamison Williams. Jamison Williams. him think about it they traded hawkinson who was a pro bowl player i think it was the second team all pro and they drafted laporta now they're gonna have to make some decisions here with that defense now they got robinson what you're gonna do with arnold what you're gonna do with jack campbell kirby joseph they they pay i think they paid curb yeah i think kirby already okay okay okay so they're gonna be some other muhammad what you're gonna do with muhammad because you just played hutchinson now this hey oh joe this that this is 2008 with that interest only joe you remember them interests only everybody was getting them 15 20 000 square foot house because all you had to pay with 20 100 a month but that balloon paper was gonna come doing about three years yeah i sure hope you got four million five million sitting by somewhere because if you don't you have to get your ass up out of here called the whole market crash because everybody had interest only loans that big balloon payment came due and ain't nobody had no money uh wawa the housing crash So Detroit's going to, hey, it's going to happen.

30:26Shannon Sharpe:It's going to happen because they're going for it. Jerry Goff, big, big money. Almond Rock, big, big money. Jamison Williams, big, big money. Panay Suh, big, big money. Hutchinson, big, big money. Joseph, big, big money. At some point in time, Mocho, you can't pay everybody big, big money. Nah, nah. I think they paid McNeil. I think McNeil got paid. Yeah.

30:48Joe Johnson:The only good thing about it I can think of, is every year that goddamn cap go up. Every year that cap go up and with some of those great players that are really, really great, they can always come back. Restructure and turn the signing bonus on. We're going to take some of this money on the back end and we're going to put it on the front end and a huge signing bonus so we can keep this goddamn training road.

31:07Shannon Sharpe:If you bring a Super Bowl on, you can break it up. Remember the Rams? Remember what they did? Think about all the money they spent. They say, okay, we got what we got out of it. We got to tear it down.

31:17Joe Johnson:Tear it down and start a game.

31:18Shannon Sharpe:Vaughn, I'm sorry. We got to let you do it. Leonard Floyd, I'm sorry.

31:22Joe Johnson:Yeah, and look at them again. Look where they're at on the verge of being able to do it again.

31:29Shannon Sharpe:You draft Kyron Williams. You draft Puka Nakua. You draft Verse. You draft Young. You get Landmine. You let Ernest Jones IV go. Hey, they let Jalen Ramsey go. They find Durant. You see how they did it, Ocho? They get Devontae Adams, who's a number one, but you get him at a basement price of$20 million, not the$35,$40 million that somebody of his caliber is worthy of getting. That's what you have to do. Look at the offensive linemen. They let go, drafted, got better. Parkinson, you see how they did it? Now, if you win a Super Bowl, Ocho, you're like, hey, we got what we're supposed to get out of this.

32:08Shannon Sharpe:We went for it. We did it. Okay. There they go. Yeah.

32:16Joe Johnson:Yeah, this little talk Got me getting kind of a little upset Yeah, yeah I'm getting a little angry now

32:23Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, pipe down a little bit It's alright, man

32:26Joe Johnson:We good, we good Listen, I'm going to talk to Joe I'm going to put him aside now

32:30Shannon Sharpe:It ain't over

32:34Joe Johnson:Listen, I'm going to see Joe I'm going to see Joe Saturday I'm going to see him Saturday The Bengals playing the Dolphins

32:41Shannon Sharpe:Joe, he going to the Sardines Jack McRibble. They all speak.

32:48Joe Johnson:Listen, I'm really not worried about this season. I'm not worried about this season. This season is already in the can. It is what it is. Let's finish the season off strong. Let's have some good high points. Let's have some individual goals that individuals want to attain for the next four weeks. Outside of that, I just need to sit down with Joe. I don't even need a long conversation. I need 10 minutes. I need to know where your mind is at.

33:15Shannon Sharpe:I need you to stay by the mailbox. You got two of these coming real soon. Hey, my man, my man. You can see everybody in front of me. Come in close on this right here. I got some room for all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I appreciate you. You got two of these coming in the mail. Yeah. Just to be a mallet. Hey, that's, hey.

33:33Joe Johnson:Hey, that look real good right there, boy.

33:36Shannon Sharpe:What, what, why you talking on Joe? Hey, man, I appreciate y 'all, man.

33:39Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, that's, hey, look, that's going. Yeah, real good. Got headphones on?

33:42Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got yours, don't you? Yeah. So, Joe, just stay close by your mailbox. They're going to be coming shortly. I got you. Say less. Say less.

33:49Joe Johnson:Hey, when mine going to hit?

33:52Shannon Sharpe:Oh, y 'all going to come for Christmas. That was going to be a Christmas gift for you.

33:56Joe Johnson:Okay. Okay. Okay. Hey, let me tell you something. It ain't nothing for me to put that ski mask on again and come back in your house.

34:02Shannon Sharpe:Why is that necessary, Ocho?

34:05Joe Johnson:I mean, it's not necessary. I mean, it's not necessary. You got all my gifts. You got my jerseys. I mean, what are we doing?

34:11Shannon Sharpe:I asked you, I said, Ocho, would you like to swap? you can't die you keep those jerseys you keep obese jerseys i don't care about that

34:16Joe Johnson:hey you ain't go to beach hi why you even got my jerseys in the first place i knew somebody went to beach high good friend of mine he was number two you talk about samari

34:32Shannon Sharpe:samari samari came to baltimore after i was gone i played against barry when he was in tennessee yeah but Joe those should be arriving shortly the Dolphins the Dolphins, the Guppies announced that they're benching Tua let's take a listen to Tua's reaction after learning of this info Copenhagen's spit-free pouches are packed full of American grown tobacco made for welders stuck behind masks more mechanics stuck on a fused Spark plug. The long haul trucker stuck in gridlock. Performing, working late at the field office. Or anytime there's no time or space to spit, there's Copenhagen spit-free pouches.

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38:21Joe Johnson:What was your reaction at that point? Uh, disappointed. I mean, I'm not happy about it, but, you know, something out of my control. Why do you think this has happened? I would say the biggest thing, and it's being honest with myself as well, had been my performance. I haven't been performing up to the level and the capabilities that I have in past. Hey, hey, man. I'm mad for Tua myself I'm mad for Tua you know we've heard rumblings about Tua's performance his injury history the concussions for a very long time for a very long time but Joe and Unk he had to perform to the level that we need him to perform at to be able to compete in the AFC East let alone compete in general my young bull man he's 0-6 in 40 40 degree or less weather Well, hell, the Dolphins always sucking when it comes to inclement weather.

39:20Joe Johnson:Always. Yeah, but he just hasn't been good this year, Unc, ever since Tyreek Hill went down. When you think about them offensively and what they looked like last year. It was last year, right? No, they missed the playoff last year.

39:31Shannon Sharpe:It was two years ago.

39:32Joe Johnson:Oh, two years ago. Hey, Joe, they was ranked second, third in goddamn offense in the NFL, Joe.

39:39Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

39:39Joe Johnson:Just two years ago. And obviously, last year, riddled with injuries, concussions. it set not just him back it set the Dolphins back in general now they're going in the direction of having Quinn Ares start Quinn Ares sorry but listen I saw him at Texas he was okay is he going to be such a drastic difference for the Dolphins I don't think so is he the answer for the future I don't think so I think we're still going to be in the same place we are looking for a quarterback that we've been doing since goddamn Dan Marino. Joe, it's been going on for a long time, Joe.

40:20Shannon Sharpe:Man, listen.

40:21Joe Johnson:We've been struggling for a long time. I know, I know. Since Dan Marino, Joe.

40:24Shannon Sharpe:I know, I know, I know. Since 1991. Pipe down. I know, I know.

40:29Joe Johnson:Come on now. I know, pipe down. I know. I know, but listen, I'm mad for Tua because I know young Bull, man, he put the work in, he hard, he prepare, you know, he want to be good at what he do, and it just ain't worked out for him, Joe. Sometimes it happens like that.

40:42Shannon Sharpe:Okay, Ocho, but y 'all got to respect him because of the accountability that he came with. Finally. That's what it is for me. I'm like, he took accountability tonight. He just got to get back to the drawing board and get back to work as far as if he want to be a starting quarterback again. All I know. He hadn't been in. Joe, I think we ought to pitch in and get us a big old aquarium because that's where we finna put the guppies. They done. They've been done for quite a while. So, hey, Chad, how about we pitch in, we get a nice size aquarium, so that's where you put guppies. I remember when I was in school, hey, Joe, when you was in elementary school, kindergarten, first grade, you had them aquariums and you see the little guppies swimming around, that's where y 'all supposed to be, Ocho.

41:29Shannon Sharpe:It's all good. It's all good.

41:31Joe Johnson:But see, you make this. It's all good. Hey, I'll tell you one thing. I'm still going to support. I'm still going to be at the game Sunday, Joe. I'm taking all the kids all 37 of them we going to the Dolphins game matter of fact we all going to wear two jerseys you can wear whatever you want to

41:48Shannon Sharpe:he going to be on the bench as a matter of fact if you wait a couple of months you'll be able to get half off a two jersey

42:01Shannon Sharpe:hey I know you want this game to mean something here then you want

42:06Joe Johnson:hey joe it's still gonna mean something to me joe it's still hey hey it's gonna mean something to me joe hey hey in life sometimes sometimes in life you prepare sometimes in life you study for the test joe yeah sometimes you fail the test even though you study you you put in hours and hours and countless hours and time and you put faith in your in what you do your respective craft And sometimes you hope that you get the results based on the work that you put in So that Joe sometimes it just don't turn out like that. You're right You're right sometimes don't and that's what happened to my Samoan warrior my Samoan warrior He put in the work because that's my uso.

42:45Joe Johnson:You know how to Samoa a Joe. They don't they don't get hurt either So are we sure he full-blooded?

42:52Shannon Sharpe:Hey, come on come on Don't do that. Don't do that. You don't, look, the Samoans I play with, them jokers ain't never hurt. They don't take no ankles. They don't take no wrists. They don't take ish. And they go out there, no matter how cold it is, they don't care nothing. They ain't got no sleeves on. They be out there in practice with no sleeves. No nothing. Now, I'm talking about the Samoans I play with. Man, man, them big old strong jokers, man. See, see. I don't know what they made of. I'm like, I don't know how. Y 'all come from warm weather climate and y 'all can withstand this cold like y 'all damn Eskimos.

43:28Shannon Sharpe:I don't know how, but I wish you the best. But I'm wearing everything I got in here to practice. It's all good.

43:34Joe Johnson:It's all good. Listen, it's all good. It's all good. Two are going to bounce back. Two is a God-fearing man. He's a man that has faith in his craft and what he does. Hey, Chad, how much guppies cost?

43:50Shannon Sharpe:Get me an aquarium. hey what the hell is a guppy a dolphin what y 'all are guppies little small ass tiny fish teeny tiny fish a starter fish what you put on an aquarium you also feed a fish what you feed big fish y 'all guppies i thought you talking about a goldfish a goldfish is a goldfish a guppy is a smaller fish a starter or feeder fish you know it's funny you've been saying

44:18Joe Johnson:up with all this time i thought it was just a made-up name i didn't know it was actually fish called a guppy i didn't know that hey like this this is what i like about this show hey joe i've been learning stuff i've been learning stuff on the fly yeah i've been learning i ain't know nothing about no guppy i know about goldfish and you know there are other things that you put in the aquarium other than they're goldfish i mean listen like clown goldfish angel yeah see i couldn't afford nothing but a goldfish that's it i mean um you got money i ain't got no money but everybody if you if

44:50Shannon Sharpe:you went to kindergarten you went to head start you had an aquarium and they had a little teeny tiny fish in there with gum here and at the end of the year they give them to you they's like would you like to take a fish on they put them in that little plastic bag joe they put them in that little plastic bag yeah yeah and let you take that damn fish on knowing that mofo was gonna die because you would have nothing to put that fish in and you damn sure could barely feed yourself so you

45:13Joe Johnson:damn show couldn't feed no fish yeah hey yeah we we had gold today

45:22Shannon Sharpe:uh tyreek hill had his own reaction oh jo joe let's take a look at the capture

45:31Shannon Sharpe:tyree you found now you don't hype this man up remember this man is more accurate than my homeboy and he he done hyped him up joe oh joe you heard what he said yeah hey ty

45:42Joe Johnson:Tyree hit the man like this, Ocho. Hey, that's that. I'm out of here. Tyree, Tyree letting it be known. He gone. You know, he's gone anyway. And the funny thing about it is understanding the injury that Tyree had. I know because he's small, because he's compact, he's going to come back stronger than ever. It might not be with the Dolphins. Wherever he goes, he's going to be a sought-out commodity as fast as he was. When he does come back, he's still going to be faster than everybody else, even if he's lost a step. That's how fast he is. So I'm excited for him, wherever his destination may be. The quarterback situation, we're still right back at square one with the quarterback situation.

46:33Joe Johnson:I think we're going to see that. No disrespect to Mr. Ewers, but it's tough. It's tough. It's tough. And, oh, man, this sucks. For me as a Dolphin fan, Joe, I've been going through this, hey, Joe, for a minute, Joe.

46:48Shannon Sharpe:Because he ain't coming back. He ain't coming back. Well, we talked about this, Joe. I mean, I was trying to tell Ocho. He was going to be a trade. He was going to be a trade deadline guy. Tyreek was. I was kind of surprised, kind of leaning, considering how it ended last year, that he would not go back into the game. I thought that was it for him. I knew Ocho and I talked about it. He ain't going to be no captain. because that's not captain material. You can't lead if things are not going well because here's the thing. Ocho, let's just say he needed 50 yards to get 1 ,600. Let's just say he needed 50 yards to get 1 ,000 yards.

47:23Shannon Sharpe:You think he's going back in the game? Of course. But because they're losing, no chance of the playoffs, and his teammates are asking, Reed, you good? You going in? Matter of time. And then, but it started last year, Ocho. remember that showing up for the game and he got into the run-in with the police and all that stuff? It was starting to be more than he's worth. Production and tolerance. His production slipped, so tolerance has got to come down and it wasn't there. So I thought he was going to get – I was very surprised that they brought him back. But if he hadn't got hurt, Ocho, you and I both agreed that he was going to get traded.

48:03Yeah.

48:03Shannon Sharpe:He's not coming back. He's not. So now, how healthy can he be? Because it's more, he damaged a lot of ligaments in that knee. He's going to be all right. What did he get? He's going to be all right. ACL, LCL, he told something, dislocated his kneecap. I mean, he did a lot of damage. There wasn't no clean with Ochoa where you just got, you know, your ACL, maybe your MCL or something like that. He got some major stuff going on.

48:33Joe Johnson:Hey, he's going to be back. He's going to be back, right? Don't worry about it. He's going to be back. He's coming back strong.

48:38Shannon Sharpe:I hope so because he had – hey, I think he has like 819 catches, over 11 ,000 yards. He has like 80-plus touchdowns. Look, all decade of the 2010s, he's phenomenal. He was phenomenal. And I hope he can get back, Ocho, because even at 30, 30, 31, I think Tyreek's 31, 30, 31, like you said, with that speed, okay, so now he's not 4 '2". Now he's 4 '3", 8. Okay, that's still pretty good. Still fast. Still pretty good.

49:16Yeah.

49:17Shannon Sharpe:So they said it was dislocated, dislocation. They said multiple ligaments, but they listed the ACL. So ain't but a few in there. You got ACL, an LCL, and an MCL, PCL. So they say multiple. So we know the ACL. So he tore one or multiple of the other three. But, Rick, you ain't have to hit my man like that. I mean, Rick said he out of there. Basically said Tyreek out of there. Excuse me. Tua's out of there also. But, see, you make a move like this, Joe, when you're moving on. When the Broncos got Russ out of there, what did they do? They missed him the last three, four weeks of the season. And they were in prime position to go to the playoffs.

50:02Shannon Sharpe:You see, Ocho, that's what they do. When they get ready to move on, they go ahead and sit you down. Denver was the same thing with Jake Plummer. They was going to move on. Guess what? They had prime playoff contention. Jake Cutler started. Then they moved on, went on without Jake Plummer. So this is the start. This is the start of it. We knew that this was happening. You see them started moving on when they trade Ram. You see Jalen Phillips, he's at the Eagles. Would I be surprised they moved on from Chubb? I would not. We know Rick's going to be. Hold on.

50:41Joe Johnson:They let Matthew Judon go today. And let Judon go today. They retooled this thing.

50:48Shannon Sharpe:They went for it. They went for it. They drafted. They get Tyreek and they trade for Ram. They trade for Bradley Chubb. They went for it. It just didn't work out for them. And that's okay. You're going for it. I'd rather a team go for it and it doesn't work out as a team to just sit idly by like oh well we cool blah blah nah hell nah if I'm a fan I'm going to lose my mind we paying off because guess what as you lose more ticket prices go up now make it make sense I'm going to be disappointed if we win the Super Bowl and all of a sudden the ticket prices go up$10,$15,$20 so you mean to tell me we ain't got no chance of getting to the playoffs and the ticket prices are still going up concession prices are still going up parking is still going up buying all this paraphernalia is still going up and y 'all ain't even trying to oh hell no

51:42Joe Johnson:yeah that sucked man you know it hurt Joe and I'm not going to get emotional I'm not going to cry just the fact that I have two teams that I love dearly obviously the Dolphins and me being from Miami from the roots I'm out of Dade County

52:01Shannon Sharpe:You had a little stint with the Dolphins, didn't you?

52:04Joe Johnson:Yeah, you said the right word, little. Little stint, yeah. Hey, Joe, and just a Bengal fan, Dolphin fan, and that's all I know, man. That's all I ever know.

52:15Shannon Sharpe:The Patriots, he played for the Patriots, Joe. I don't know why he don't want to take the Patriots. They winning.

52:22Joe Johnson:Yeah, I ain't do nothing. Well, that don't mean nothing, Ocho. You ain't do nothing in Miami either, but you claim them. Yeah, because that's home. that's home that'll always be home you know hey hey i got i got i got they they i got a check i got my guy got my check it say mommy how many how many checks you get from new england i ain't never touched them i'm not sure i ain't even look at that yet yeah so damn joe it hurt joe it hurt it hurt no it don't hurt me i don't forget hey you know what it feel like joe you know what it feel like i ain't gonna lie to you joe the feeling i got right now man it's more disappointment.

53:00Joe Johnson:I'm not mad, I'm disappointed because I should have known better, you hear me? I gotta stop thinking with my heart, Joe. I gotta start thinking with my mind, you hear me? That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, so there was a young lady, hey, let me tell you a little story. Tell her, tell her, tell her, I'm listening. Yeah, hey, Joe, I ain't really no story time type dude, you hear me? Go ahead, go ahead. But, you know, I'm gonna share a little story, sophomore. I was sophomore in high school, Miami B Senior High, you know, there was a young lady, you know i was dating you know and and and she was one that i wasn't supposed to get serious about i needed to understand the landscape in which she come from i needed to understand the way she maneuvered and joe and i was blind to the fact i was like ray charles you know my homeboy they were telling me like boy that ain't that that's that's just that's play play you hear me yeah yeah and i chose the boom i tried to i could change her that was my mentality as a youngster you know i wasn't i wasn't a seasoned veteran like i am now you hear me so hey i done took up under my wing you know i'm listen i'm i'm finna pilot this thing and you you know you just ride on the side as my co-pilot yeah hey joe boy it took about two weeks joe man my homeboy hit me came and got me at lunch hey ocho boy walk out here to the parking lot with me Bo, what's up?

54:23Joe Johnson:Why you everything good? Izzy, I want to show you something. Man, old basketball player had my girl in the back of the car, man.

54:30Shannon Sharpe:What? Man, say it ain't so good. You should have knew something. You ain't had no car while you in the parking lot. So you should have knew something was up. Boy, he's all up undercarriage, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Respect, respect. Hey,

54:45Joe Johnson:you know, when I look, I ain't even had to go close. Like a head was up against the rear view window. I'm like, well, God, I mean, damn. Yeah, yeah, that was, that was a, now you see how you see y 'all reaction? How you think I feel? So that's how I felt. Like just seeing, seeing it's a constant memory of that exact moment every time I see the Bengals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh man. Yeah, cool, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

55:13Shannon Sharpe:And I already know, cause the windows was up, it was all foggy. I don't know how you, hey, hey, Joe, He all in the window like this here. How you do that? Why you doing me like that? Hey, you remember Hitch? Hey, you remember Hitch? When Hitch called his girl and she rolled the window down? He's like, no, no, no.

55:35Joe Johnson:Yeah, I ain't go that close. I ain't need to go that close. Once I saw a head keep hitting the rearview mirror, I didn't know what time it was. Oh, Joe, I'm sorry.

55:42Shannon Sharpe:It turned you into a savage, though, didn't it? No. It turned you into a savage, didn't it? After that, he turned into a savage.

55:46Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, ever since that moment, I was a savage, Joe. I could be honest with you Joe I started moving different Joe I read a couple of books I watched a couple of movies and understood so I went into all situations understanding that this can happen again so I was able to compartmentalize it which is in the back of my mind it can happen no ego no pride

56:12Shannon Sharpe:that's called being scarred man come on now

56:15Joe Johnson:hey them scars build character I am so sorry. Make me the man I am today.

56:20Shannon Sharpe:I'm so sorry. I'm going to take another swig for you.

56:24Joe Johnson:I appreciate that. But I had to share that story so people can get a better understanding on Hyde Field. That basketball player, where was he from?

56:31Shannon Sharpe:Was he from Alabama?

56:34Joe Johnson:No, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, little Haitian dude. What? Little Haitian dude from Little Haiti. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, little Haitian dude. You know, he was getting a little money, too. You know how you got dudes in high school getting a little money? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

56:46Shannon Sharpe:Looked like you was getting a little honey too. Hey, so I got a question. Did she end up seeing you? See her?

56:54Joe Johnson:Nah, after that, you know, I ain't even, listen. I see in the hallway, man. I just hit her with the deuces at that point.

57:00Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, act like you're on the - You gotta act like you're on the -

57:02Joe Johnson:I can't, cause now you ain't finna embarrass me like that. Right, right, right. Oh, man. No, you got, you know, Sakpase hitting you down in the car, man. Come on, man. Don't try me like that. I mean, what, you want to take her to a hotel? Nah, I'm just saying, I mean, listen, hey, that's why you understand. It is a difference. Hey, Joe, that's a good thing in life. So, fellas, this is a lesson. You have to understand what's for fun and what's not.

57:31Shannon Sharpe:Right.

57:32Joe Johnson:You understand what's for fun and what's not. Now that I'm a seasoned veteran, I understand what's for fun and what you can take serious. Yeah. I mean, that's neither here nor there, man. I'm sorry, Ocho.

57:45Shannon Sharpe:yeah yeah i mean uh it's happened to the best it's happened to the best us we don't all get the chance to witness it but we know for certain that it's happened oh yeah yeah i mean i don't know what you're about to saw that out of my man i might have lived the car

58:04Joe Johnson:nah nah i couldn't do that you know i was hey i was a star player i was one of the star players back then. I wanted them to do that. And she did that to you? Hey, hold on. You know, see, wait a minute. I was a sophomore. You got to think who was on the team. Terry Cousins. Samara's role. We had Dwayne Starks. So I was the baby. So I felt like I was that boy, you know? She was a senior, though.

58:36Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man. Who would this nation do? Joe Ellenby?

58:40Joe Johnson:No. Yeah, it was cool. It got me. Listen, in life, this happens. The big fish, sometimes the big fish, the big fish get what they want. They got you, though.

58:54Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they got you. I mean, hey. Hey. Just because it's on the top shelf don't mean it can't be reached. You know, sometimes I'm a bad guy. Okay, can't. Yeah.

59:07Joe Johnson:Hey, let me tell you something, Uncle. Listen, Uncle, I done been right here. I done been right here 57 years, Joe. everything could be tough everything I don't care hide move hide act it ain't always gotta be a guy that's bigger than you yeah

59:24Shannon Sharpe:okay we don't need to go there we don't need to go there we gonna proceed I'm just saying people think oh big bang take little bang I done seen situations doing ain't got no bang you know why

59:41Joe Johnson:Hey, the one ain't got no bank got a whole lot of time. Well, don't give. Don't make this no sermon, man. Hey, I ain't no. All right. All right. Hey, don't make this no sermon, man. Look here.

59:54Shannon Sharpe:It happens. Happens to the best. Hey, old Joe, that Haitian dude, man. That's what you got. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ain't got nothing against Haitian people, do you?

1:00:06Joe Johnson:Oh, nah, bro. You know my zoos love me down here, huh? You know, I'm damn near. myself. Sock by say.

1:00:13Shannon Sharpe:They about scarred me just thinking about it though. I can just imagine. Joe, that man probably had to wrap all that meat around his arm to pull out an Ocho girl.

1:00:25Shannon Sharpe:Ooh, that little 48 just kicked in, boy. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, Joe, you know we from the South. You know you get that whole fight, you gotta wrap it around your arm. That man wrap that thing around his arm to come up out an Ocho girl. I said, oh, no. Hey, Ocho, shout out to your homeboy who came and got you, though. He a real man. Yeah, he came and got me.

1:00:48Joe Johnson:My dog came and got me. Yeah, he put me up on game. That's all he could do. That's all he could. Matter of fact, and the funny thing about it, you know, when you're that young, Joe, if he had told me, if he had told me without taking me, without seeing it, I would have thought he was hating. Hey, Joe. Right. I would have thought he was hating.

1:01:02Shannon Sharpe:You see how that man rocked up right there? That man. He had it round up.

1:01:12Shannon Sharpe:I'm sorry.

1:01:15Joe Johnson:Hey, y 'all, y 'all chill. Y 'all chill now. Y 'all chill. See, hey, hey, hey.

1:01:24Joe Johnson:You know what, hey, Joe, I ain't share no more story with y 'all. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Hey, I like it here. Hey, you see, hey, Joe, hey, Joe, I take a money off and I'm not moment to be vulnerable and tell him about something from the past and here he go.

1:01:40Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all right. It's all right. But damn. Hey. That's.

1:01:48That's. That's. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo.

1:01:57Shannon Sharpe:Woo. Woo. Woo.

1:02:04Shannon Sharpe:Woo. Woo. Hey, hey Joe, that man, that man came up with a thing like this.

1:02:18Shannon Sharpe:I'm sorry, Chad. I'm sorry, Chad.

1:02:36Joe Johnson:Hey listen, I can laugh.

1:02:48Joe Johnson:I can laugh about it now, Joe. I could laugh, I could laugh. I know man, and I was like, hey, I can laugh about it now, Joe. Hey. Hey, listen. for a little sophomore at about 15, 16 years old.

1:02:57Shannon Sharpe:That's tough, bro. Yeah, yeah, Joe.

1:02:58Joe Johnson:I was 15, Joe. I was a baby, Joe. I was a baby. I'm sorry, Ocho.

1:03:04Shannon Sharpe:Snipe you right about. Ocho, I'm sorry, man.

1:03:08Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man. I think, Ocho, I think it is this LeBourgier guy.

1:03:18Shannon Sharpe:Man. I just seen you take at least two shots. Yo, I got, man, it got hot in here, man.

1:03:26Shannon Sharpe:Hey, that LaFortiery kick there. Yes, son.

1:03:30Joe Johnson:Hey, y 'all got me in here crying, boy.

1:03:33Shannon Sharpe:Go by, Joe. Hey, that was funny. I know you gonna tell another story with you. I gotta be ready.

1:03:45Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Uncle's got some company tonight, huh? Nah, man, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, man.

1:03:51Joe Johnson:Hey, you are you drinking good tonight, but you got company? I mean you would you tell the story man, you know, I was I'm in it with you because I feel like I was there

1:04:01Shannon Sharpe:and I can imagine

1:04:22Shannon Sharpe:I'm sorry with y 'all. Man, I'm sweating. This thing got me sweating up in here.

1:04:31Shannon Sharpe:Woo.

1:04:32Joe Johnson:Oh, it's good. All right. Hey, but that was funny.

1:04:37Shannon Sharpe:Back to how I normally schedule programming.

1:04:41Shannon Sharpe:Cal Ward says he wants to have a role in the process of finding the next head coach. Ward said he spoke in the prison of football operation, Chad Brinker and general manager Mike Borgonza about wanting to be involved from the first steps of the process to finding Brian Callahan's permanent replacement. Ward says he wants to help find someone who can build successful foundation for the franchise. I want to meet with all of them. Every coach who's going to get an opportunity to come here, I want to meet them, have a conversation throughout the whole process with them because that's someone that I'm going to be here with for that time.

1:05:18Shannon Sharpe:so we got to just continue to be being around being open and no matter what whoever they we tried to hire because i know at the end of the day we do have going to be the right fit for us whether it's a defensive person or an offensive person they're going to make sure every person is in the right place make sure every person is set up for success

1:05:40Joe Johnson:oh it's too soon yeah man if we we uh and joe no disrespect i love cam ward i love i love him but you haven't proven yourself to that point to be integrated in the mix when it comes to the coaching decisions. He can't have a little say so?

1:06:00Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely not. I mean, but that's the most important position on the floor. He ain't got enough skin in the game. Those kind of decisions, those are 44 Peyton Manning. Those are 44 Tom Brady. Those are 44, Patrick Mahomes, John Elway, or Dan Marine.

1:06:19Joe Johnson:No, no, no, no, no, no. You got to be proven, Joe. I mean, I know you're the number one pick in the draft, but you got to be proven. And if you haven't proved yourself, you got to be well on your way to being one of the best at your position to be able to have that kind of cachet to be, okay, I want to be in the conversations. I want to be in the meeting rooms and having some type of,

1:06:45Joe Johnson:voice when it comes to who we have as our next head coach because that's someone that I'm going to have to deal with the most. Nah. Absolutely not.

1:06:53Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to think. Hold on, Ocho. Let me think. Let me think. I'm trying to go back where I can... Now, off the top of my head, a rookie? I can't recall. Hell, Ben Roethlisberger had won a Super Bowl. The Roonies didn't ask him about hiring Mike Tomlin. He didn't meet with nobody. No. Like I said, that's a Peyton Manning in his prime. That's a Tom Brady. That's, I mean, very few. Now, maybe in basketball because that's totally different. But in football terms, nah. The reason why I'm saying that is if that's one of the most important positions on the field, him and the coach need to have some type of cohesion to where they're both on the same page.

1:07:45Shannon Sharpe:You know what I mean? Like, you want your quarterback to be comfortable. And I just feel like I kind of understand what Cam is saying, but I understand what you guys are saying as well. Like, he may not be the first or second person to know, but to have some insight on who we going to get, he said he want to meet with him, Joe. He want to meet. He want to have actual input.

1:08:08Joe Johnson:that ain't that ain't happening i like where his head is at though huh i like i like the energy

1:08:14Shannon Sharpe:i like i like that i don't like i said in football i don't know they don't normally afford uh players that kind of cachet they don't um i'm trying to think they didn't afford that to brett they didn't afford that to aaron they didn't afford that to well brady only had one coach and that was Coach Belichick.

1:08:40Shannon Sharpe:Peyton, it was already just like – because Jim Caldwell was already the OC and Tony Dungy left early because he wanted to make sure that he left the cupboards full. So Jim Caldwell just stepped right in. Peyton had worked with him and so I'm sure Peyton was fine with that. And I think – who was the general manager at the time? I can't think of his name. But I'm sure he, because he drafted Peyton, and Peyton got there in 98. Coach, what you call him, left in like 2000, and he won the Super Bowl in 2006. I think he left in seven, and so Jim Caldwell took over in eight or nine. So, yeah, but that's asking an awful lot for a first to check of your player.

1:09:32Joe Johnson:Yeah, it is. It is. And listen, Joe and Unc, this is with good intentions as well. This is with great intentions I'm sure, you know, based on why he wants to do it. And then you have to have the owners here, Ocho.

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1:10:15Joe Johnson:Yeah, that's true.

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