In short
Nightcap Hour 1 covers two NFL storylines—Cincinnati’s intra-division trade for Joe Flacco and Cleveland’s QB2/backup quarterback situation after that trade—plus a sports interview with world heptathlon champion Anna Hall.
Guest backgrounds
Hosts are Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) and Chad Ochocinco Johnson (“Ocho”). Anna Hall is a Florida Gator alum and world heptathlon champion (gold Tokyo, silver Budapest, bronze Eugene). The episode also mentions Texas WR Xavier Hutchinson joining later (no details provided in this transcript).
Key claims
Bengals traded for Flacco because Jake Browning wasn’t “holding up” as starter/backup while the team is 2-3 and has major offensive expectations (Chase, Higgins, Hendrickson). Hosts argue Flacco’s fit is limited by lack of mobility, so the offensive line must “set the tone” vs Green Bay. For Cleveland, Kevin Stefanski is noncommittal on QB2, while the show criticizes how reporters keep focusing on Shador Sanders amid practice-snap reports involving Bailey Zappe.
Notable examples
Trade details (Browns send Flacco + 2026 6th; Bengals send 2026 5th). Flacco’s past playoff runs; Jackie Joyner-Kersee mentoring Hall; Hall’s heptathlon record chase (7,000/7,300/7,400 points goals) and her strongest (800) and weakest (long jump) events.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOJoe Flacco's Trade to the Bengals
1:04 to 2:26
Discussion about Joe Flacco's trade to the Bengals and its implications.
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Joe Flacco's Trade to the Bengals
4:08 to 5:05
Discussion about Joe Flacco's trade to the Bengals and its implications.
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Joe Flacco's Trade to the Bengals
7:22 to 10:12
Discussion about Joe Flacco's trade to the Bengals and its implications.
“But not for the Cleveland Browns, for your Cincinnati Bengals.”
Analyzing the Bengals' Quarterback Situation
10:12 to 14:00
A breakdown of the Bengals' quarterback performance and future prospects.
“And I promise you, Bengals fans, this organization, my teammates, I won't let you down.”
Self-Driving Cars and Jake Browning's Performance
14:00 to 29:25
Discussion on self-driving cars and expectations for Jake Browning's performance with the Bengals.
“Yeah, you will cut we have a self-driving car I've been seeing a lot of self-driving cars late.”
Self-Driving Cars and Jake Browning's Performance
30:17 to 31:04
Discussion on self-driving cars and expectations for Jake Browning's performance with the Bengals.
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Browns QB Situation After Flacco Trade
32:00 to 36:48
Discussion on the Cleveland Browns' quarterback situation post-Flacco trade.
“Kevin Stefanski was noncommittal on whether rookie Shadour Sanders or practice squad Bailey Zappi would be the team's backup quarterback in the aftermath of trading Joe Flacco to the Bengals.”
Media Dynamics Surrounding Backup QB
36:48 to 40:30
Analyzing media interactions with backup quarterbacks and their implications.
“And when I'm starting, when Coach Stefanski tells me I'm starting, then I'll talk to you guys.”
Media Dynamics Surrounding Backup QB
40:38 to 42:01
Analyzing media interactions with backup quarterbacks and their implications.
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Mentorship from Jackie Joyner
43:31 to 45:57
Anna discusses her relationship with mentor Jackie Joyner and its impact.
“I saw a thing a year, maybe a year ago, maybe it was leading up to the Olympics, where Jackie Joyner, who happens to be the greatest heptathlete ever created, back-to-back gold medals in 88, 92, won the silver in 84.”
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Chasing World Records
45:58 to 47:52
Anna explains her approach to achieving world records and managing pressure.
“But people keep a record of, like, what are your PRs that up to?”
Strengths and Weaknesses in Events
47:53 to 50:22
Anna shares her strongest and weakest events in the heptathlon.
“And even though you're not necessarily trying to win the race, although you would like to win, you're going against the standard that you already have set.”
Anna's Track Journey
50:23 to 51:57
Discussion of Anna's early career in track and her decision to focus on heptathlon.
“the big one where um i have a lot of room to grow because even to my own pr i jumped like 60 centimeters less, which is a lot at Worlds than my own personal best.”
Finding Balance Outside of Track
51:58 to 53:25
Anna talks about her life outside of athletics and her efforts to develop new hobbies.
“I'm trying to become a better chef maybe this offseason.”
Training Routine as a Heptathlete
53:26 to 55:56
Insight into Anna's training regimen and how she prepares for multiple events.
“Darius Slayton is my boyfriend and And so my brother, New York giant dairies.”
Anna Hall's Journey and Training Regimen
56:00 to 1:02:10
Learn about Anna Hall's training techniques, nutrition, and mindset as a world champion athlete.
“I maybe would have named that before I named long jump like a few years ago.”
Future Competitions and Goals
1:02:10 to 1:03:34
Anna discusses her upcoming competitions and aspirations for future events.
“Obviously, you're going to be competing that next year, correct?”
NFL Trades and Player Dynamics
1:03:34 to 1:10:01
Analysis of recent NFL trades and the impact on team dynamics, featuring player discussions.
“Another major trade between the Jags and the Browns.”
Dynamic Talent Discussion
1:10:01 to 1:11:41
Learn about the importance of dynamic players in football and the potential of Travis Hunter.
“It doesn't work for them if he's average on both sides of the ball, Ocho.”
Dynamic Talent Discussion
1:11:42 to 1:13:04
Learn about the importance of dynamic players in football and the potential of Travis Hunter.
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Dynamic Talent Discussion
1:13:12 to 1:14:13
Learn about the importance of dynamic players in football and the potential of Travis Hunter.
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Transcript
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5:36Shannon Sharpe:good evening ladies and gentlemen and thank you for joining us for another episode of nightcap y 'all know who i am i'm your favorite uncle shannon sharp and there is my partner and co-host that's Liberty City's own that's Bengals Ring of Fame honoree a pro bowler an all pro Madden ratings adjuster that's Chad Ochocinco Johnson please make sure you hit the subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button and do us a favor go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from we'd like to thank each and every one of you personally for your support and your continued support thanks to you and only you that we've been able to become what we've become and thanks to you and only you will continue to grow.
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6:47Shannon Sharpe:That link is pinned in the chat. Nightcap has been nominated for two Signal Awards under the genre Best Sports Podcast and under video Best Video Podcast Co-host Team. We're only in the lead by one percentage point in both categories. Hey, tomorrow night at midnight is the last chance to vote. So please go out and vote for your favorite Unc and Neff that's Ocho and myself. We've got Anna Hall, world champion in the heptathlon, and Texas wide receiver Xavier Hutchinson joining us in a bit. But first, Ocho, Joe Flacco. Yeah! We'll start ahead. But not for the Cleveland Browns, for your Cincinnati Bengals.
7:30Shannon Sharpe:He will start Sunday at Green Bay. Bengals head coach Zach Taylor announced Cincinnati successfully completed a rare intra-division trade Tuesday. They sent a 2026 fifth round draft pick to the Browns in exchange for Flacco and a 2026 sixth round draft pick. This is how rare it's been. I think in this century, only once, twice has it happened. The New England Patriots traded Drew Bledsoe to the Buffalo Bills. The Philadelphia Eagles traded Donovan McNabb to the Washington. They were not the commanders at the time. You know what they were. but he got traded intra-division. So only three times as a quarterback that I can think of a trade like this going down.
8:12Shannon Sharpe:Let's run down. Let's run down what happened. Joe Flacco was traded. Ocho's guy wasn't being able to – Jake Browning was not being able to hold up to it because what was supposed to happen, your backup is supposed to be able to keep you afloat until your starter comes back. That's what a backup is supposed to do. That didn't happen. So the Cincinnati Bengals like, look, we've got a lot of money invested in Chase and Higgins, and we gave 14 more million dollars to a Trey Hendrickson. So we need to try to maximize this. We can't just give up on the season because our quarterback is not fulfilling his obligation, which is to keep us afloat to if and when Joe, excuse me, Joe Burrow came back.
8:53Shannon Sharpe:doesn't look like that was happening and so they made the move so Cleveland sent Joe Flacco and the 2026 sixth round draft pick and returned the Bengals send them a 2026 fifth round draft pick we're getting it right for you guys right now uh how uh Jake Browning is taking his demotion from being the starter to now being the backup in Cincinnati yeah I'm trying to respond the right way obviously I'm pissed and if I wasn't pissed then I shouldn't be in this locker room. And it's important to me. And, you know, I'm aware of the role I played in the offensive struggles over the last few weeks. And, you know, but I'm also not shouldering the entire situation.
9:37And, you know, I went through yesterday, watched my throws, tried to come up with some stuff that I want to work on, and just doing that. Okay.
9:49Shannon Sharpe:The thing a quarterback is supposed to do is say, look, it's on me. I did not play. don't say I'm not going to shoulder all of the blame. We know all the blame is not on you. But in that moment, when you're in front of the camera, as the leader of that offense, you're like, look, that's on me. I didn't play well enough to get the job done. So I understand why the Bengals made that decision. If and when my time comes back up, I'll be more prepared. And I promise you, Bengals fans, this organization, my teammates, I won't let you down. Take off, Ocho. Listen, obviously, most of the time in that situation, as a quarterback, being the face, being that Joe Burrow is absent, you have to take onus.
10:27You have to take all that on your shoulders because you are the quarterback, because much is expected of you once you are at that position and you are the one who handles the ball the most outside of everyone else. With that being said, you look at our team and where we are right now. We're two and three. We still have time to be able to salvage the season. I think they're continuing to stick with Jake Browning based on the last two performances that we've seen, it would have been malpractice by the coaches. I think Zach Taylor might be on the hot seat. Listen, it's not funny. This is a serious matter.
11:00This is not a laughing matter. For us, the fans are impatient. I'm impatient. I think upstairs they're also impatient because they've invested money in that offensive line. They invested money in Joe Burrow. They invested money in Tee and Jamar Chase, especially offensively in general, and they want to see a return on that investment. Correct. Joe Burrow's down. Joe Burrow's down. Next man up. The next man up is not playing well at all. So we're two and three right now. What do we want to do? We want to get someone else who is a veteran presence that has won a Super Bowl. Maybe they can come in and steer the ship to keep it from sinking.
11:38Similar to like the Titanic. We don't want to hit an iceberg. So can Joe Flacco come in and steer the ship and dodge a few icebergs? Now we might sink a little bit But we don't want to just go all the way God damn under We're going to see what can happen It all starts with number one We have a gunslinger at the quarterback position That has a hell of a arm But he's not mobile No Jake Browning was mobile And he was running for his life
12:07Shannon Sharpe:Joe Flacco ain't getting away from anything My offensive line If you guys do see this I beg of you I implore you to raise your level of play for us offensively to have any success moving forward, starting right now this week against that Packers defense. Ooh. Gary. Ooh, Micah. Ooh. And Rashawn Gary. Ooh, Wyatt. Oh, my God. My Bengals offensive line, we need to set the tone. We need to set the tone, all five of you. Orlando Brown, come on, baby. You got to come to the party. Brother Mims. you got to come to the party right guard left guard tear caris we got to come to the party as we go as the offensive line goes our team goes the game of football is one up front is one in the trenches and for us to continue to continue to compete not only the afc north but the nfl in general for the rest of the season we have to win up front that's what it starts with If we went up front, everything else becomes easy offensively.
13:15Shannon Sharpe:I can tell, looking at the chat, that there are not a lot of leaders out there because they're looking to obfuscate blame. If you go look, just look at the quarterbacks and how they talk. Jalen Hurts, watch out when they lose a game, how he talks. With Brady and Manning and all these quarterbacks lose, look how they talk. It's on them. You don't talk about, I don't shoulder all the blame. You said it's on me. I need to play better and I will I understand why the organization did what they did because I wasn't getting the job done Yes, sir if and when I get another opportunity Oh Joe the only reason he's on the roster is that when Joe Burr got hurt last time He did a well enough job.
13:56Shannon Sharpe:They say you know what we got a backup if Joe goes down for three to four weeks We got a guy that can hold it in the road for us. Yeah, you will cut we have a self-driving car I've been seeing a lot of self-driving cars late. I'm like hold on I saw the car driving around Ocho I'm looking at the side I said hold on wait a minute Ain't nobody driving Right right right And stopped and somebody got out I said I heard people talk about it Ocho But that's my first time seeing one So that's what That's what Jake Browning was He was a self driving car Like man Joe out Jake got this We saw him against Jacksonville You remember that Thursday night game Ocho against Jacksonville Oh, yeah, he played well.
14:40Shannon Sharpe:That's what gave you the confidence to say what you were saying because you had seen him in moments like this. Yes. Rise to the occasion. Play extremely well. I don't know what happened because here's the thing. on your expectations are the number one killer yeah of dreams and hopes and aspirations because see it's easy and i tell guys all the time i say you know what the easiest thing i ever did was make the pro bowl because nobody was expecting it now guess what happens when they build a game plan around you and the defense build a game plan to stop you wait hold on stay right there because I know you're for the cook.
15:18Hold on now. Hold on.
15:23Hold on because let me tell you something. I got my pen and pad now. I know you're for the cook. Go ahead now.
15:28Shannon Sharpe:So that's what happens, Ocho. So you see what happened? Expectations. Jake Browning had immense expectations. Why, Ocho? Because the Cincinnati Bengals have immense expectations. Even though Joe Burrow's down, they believe, man, we have enough offensively to right this ship until Joe gets back. We got Chase. We got the best receiver in football. We believe we got another top 15 receiver in football. We got a guy that can run the ball. There ain't no reason for us to be scoring three points, ten points, be down 34-3 going into the fourth quarter with the offensive weapons that we got. So now the expectations, and you feel that, living up.
16:10Shannon Sharpe:See, Ocho, it was easy. your kids see your kids got expectations you never had your dad your dad ochocinco yeah the pro bowler the one that's on nightcap yeah now they got expectations you didn't have to deal with your mom your people like they might say uh uh oh you hurricane paul paul paul pauletis on but now you put so much expectations on your kids because the only people in the neighborhood knew your mom knew your grandma you're a worldwide commodity they see that last name they say hold on Chanel what's your relationship to Ocho that's my dad that's your dad now what you play you play what you know you do so what you do in sports right right what you want to be when you grow up now you see jake brown had those expectations with that offense he was supposed he wasn't supposed to be joe burrow he was just supposed to be that self-driving car to keep it in the road oh you just don't crash yeah that's all you got to do son i don't even need you to win this race just get the car around the track and don't crash that's a good keep it in first gear see i told you was finna cook.
17:33Shannon Sharpe:Cause see I already know what's gonna happen when you get to four. God, let me write this down man. You gonna either burn the clutch out or you gonna strip the gear. What you gonna do Ocho? What are you gonna do? Hold on now. Hold on. I don't need you to win the race. I just need you to get the car around the track. Boy that's a bar. Huh? Get it around the track. That's a bar. You don't even understand. You don't even understand what you just did. Let me write this down. Hold on now. Boy you cooking. What? God damn boy you need to be a pastor. Hey, I don't. Jake. I don't need. Jake you think we need you to be 15 and two right get us the 10 can you can you get us the level can you keep it can you get us the 10 and seven get us the 10 and seven 10 and seven might be might be something might be something we can look at yeah yeah especially with the texans one and four the titans one and four okay they got two teams in that division are playing really well you got the uh the afc south you got the jags and You got the Colts.
18:29They're cutting up. They're cutting up. They're cutting up. It's funny. Two of the teams are always three and four, and now one and two. Battling with a chance to win that division in the AFC South. Well, obviously, let me take that back, because when Peyton Manning was there, they dominated the AFC South. For sure.
18:46Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely. They're back. Let me just say it. As of recent, it hasn't been like that. No, no, no, no, no, no. Basically, since Andrew Luck left, it hasn't been like that. Hey, listen, I'm excited. You think about what we are, too, as a Bengal fan. I'm sure we have some Bengal fans in the chat and just fans of football in the chat in general. If you think about us and what we are right now, we're at the bottom. We're at the bottom. There's nowhere else. There's no other place we can go but up from this point on. Based on what we saw last week, there's only one place we can go. We got Flacco in there.
19:17I'm optimistic. I'm optimistic. What choice do you have, Ocho? Right. And then a lot of people, you got some people, obviously, here's some Bengal fans. Oh, why we go get Joe Flacco? there were no viable options. They talk about, well, why didn't we get anybody who could run? Why didn't we get anybody mobile? Who's out there? That is mobile. Call Amazon and see if they can see your quarterback. Exactly. This ain't madness. This is real life. This is real life. What we need is not like quarterbacks or like goddamn apple tree. You just go pick one you want to replace the next one. That is one of the reasons why it's so difficult to not only find a quarterback, but find a transcending generational talent like a Joe Burrow.
19:58You can't replace it. No. You can't replace a Lamar Jackson if he's injured, as you can see with the Ravens struggling. You can't replace a goddamn Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes or Justin Herbert. You can.
20:12Shannon Sharpe:But can we get a Carson Wentz? Can he do what Carson Wentz is doing for the Minnesota Vikings until J.J. McCarthy comes back? because he's making it hard on Kevin O 'Connell to put J.J. McCarthy ass back in the ballgame considering how well he's actually playing since J.J. McCarthy's been out. More touchdowns, fewer interceptions. That's what it is. Now, look, in this situation, you're not going to make it difficult for them not to put Joe Burrow ass back in there. He's making far too much money, and he's a far superior quarterback to what you are. But with that being said, bro, this is how bad Jake Browning is.
20:48Shannon Sharpe:His QBR is actually higher than Joe Flacco.
20:55Shannon Sharpe:But when you desperate, Ocho, hey, somebody say, man, look, if one aspirin, if two aspirin will clear your headache, you won't have a headache in, say, an hour. Well, and that's what Jerry Reinsdorf asked Michael Jordan. But it's a true analogy. You know, one aspirin, take two aspirins, pain should subside in a couple of hours. Well, if I take 10, it's probably going to kill you. And he asked Mike, would you take 10? He said, well, how bad is my headache? Ooh. A desperate person will do a desperate thing. Desperate teams do desperate things. This was a desperate move because the actuality, the quarterback that you had starting is actually playing better than the quarterback you're replacing him with.
21:43Shannon Sharpe:but let you see when you get desperate on show when you get desperate you make desperate decisions you don't think clearly you don't see clearly all i know is that my guy isn't playing well well let's grab that guy you do realize that guy got benched also yes i can see if you got a i want to trade for your starter no you traded for a guy that got benched can i say something yes we traded for a guy that got benched obviously but the guy that got benched that's coming to the bangles has a much better supporting cast around him right now. For sure. Again, the one issue I did say, because despite coming here to a much better supporting cast, if that front four or that front five, what it is five, don't do what they need to do.
22:30They're not. And be a wall for two seconds. Give me a wall for two seconds. That's all I need. Give me two. If you can give me two, we can do something with one and five.
22:43Shannon Sharpe:Well, you better keep Flacco in the shotgun because it's going to take him longer than three to get in his drop, backpedal. That's fine. That's fine. We can put him back there in the shotgun so we can already process. So we can already process. He can see what's in front of him right away. And it doesn't take him that much long to get that ball out. And you know one thing about Flacco, boy, he got an arm on him. Oh, he can throw it now. He can still make all the throws. Now, he's going to throw Jason Higgins by three. Now, he's going to throw the other team by two. Now, it's just a matter of whether they're going to catch him or not because he's going to give everybody – he's an equal opportunity employer.
23:16Shannon Sharpe:He believes in DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion. So, he's going to diversify, touchdown, the interception. He's going to make sure it's equality, and he's going to include the defense in what the hell he's doing. So, I'm just letting you all know, Bingo fans, you are – listen. You remember him when he was at the Ravens. You remember him when he was at Cleveland. You already know, and you just got a glimpse of him earlier this year. So you know who and what he is. So if you think you're going to get 2012 playoff Flacco, he was never ever able to replicate. He could never really put a regular season together like he could those playoff runs.
23:53Shannon Sharpe:Ochoa, he had some of the great playoff runs. Hey, crazy work in the playoffs. Crazy work. But again, you think about what he had offensively with the Ravens, even back then with that playoff run. He didn't hit that double run. Hell, I can honestly say throughout the entirety of his career, he ain't never had nothing like he got working with right now. No, no, no, no, no, no. He had a better offensive line, but he didn't have – I'm trying to think, who was his running back back then? I don't even remember who his running back was. I know Anquan Boda was one of the receivers. 27, 27, 27. Ray Rice?
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24:27Yes, I believe so. Okay. I believe so, yeah.
24:31Shannon Sharpe:but i think the thing is ocho he's gonna need time to throw like you said he doesn't have mobility he's not a guy that you can move i mean are you gonna move the pocket with him you can't zone read with him i mean you're limited basically hey ocho he's a drop back he's a prototypical 70s 80 drop back quarterback that's what he is he's not like these quarterbacks that we have today all the quarterbacks they are slightly mobile some more than over or others but ocho So he is what he is and you. Yeah. I mean, listen, even though Joe Burrow ain't Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow ain't goddamn Josh Allen, but his ability to manipulate the pocket and feel pressure and being able to escape it and make throws down the field is second to none.
25:12He's really good at escaping the pocket, despite not being the considered dual threat that those quarterbacks I just named are. Listen, I'm hoping we do well in the onus. It all comes down to the offensive line. Yeah. And as they go, the better they play, the better we play offensively.
25:27Shannon Sharpe:I think they're going to try to, you know, you go in the draft and you try to draft an offensive lineman. If somebody comes available, you know, Ocho in free agency, you get somebody to come to your team. You have to overpay because you're asking this man to uproot where he's been the last three, four, five years, six years, seven years, where he's gotten comfortable. He's established himself in the community. If he has a wife, his wife is an interest in the community. You got kids, they got friends and they been in school. so you're going to have to overpay to get one of those guys or an offensive tackle or guard or a center to come join your team so you're going to have to overpay to get one of those guys and then you know you go into draft and you try to find the best offensive lineman because you're going to be drafting pretty high up if this thing doesn't get turned around ojo unfortunately that's that's you know you might end up being a top 10 and i don't know like i said i haven't seen any projections just yet but there might be a situation where you have to go in and take a lineman in the top 10 Now, we know, look, Anthony Munoz is the best offensive lineman that they've had.
26:24Shannon Sharpe:Willie, I know Big Willie. Big Willie. He from my home state. Went to Auburn. But you guys need an offensive line, don't you? Yeah, we do. We do. I'm just hoping those young bulls, those young bulls that we do have, especially those that have gotten paid, they've been paid a nice ransom. I'm hoping they can show up and pay dividends and play like the money that they've received so far. I'm excited for them. Obviously, getting Joe Burrow. Despite where we are right now, we're still 2-3. The season is salvageable. I know what Joe can do. But the only way to allow Joe to cook, the only way he can be that chef, the head chef, is he needs a little time.
27:07If he get a little time up, you give Joe any time, boy, he is surgical with that ball. that's for any of you that in the chat that no football even though we can't move he got an arm on him yes we got two of the best he got he got the best maybe arguably depending on who you ask the best dude to throw to so i'm excited i'm optimistic and we can't go anywhere but up from here because we're at the bottom of the barrel right now amazon health ai presents painful thoughts Why did I search the internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores in various stages of ooze.
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32:00Shannon Sharpe:Kevin Stefanski was noncommittal on whether rookie Shadour Sanders or practice squad Bailey Zappi would be the team's backup quarterback in the aftermath of trading Joe Flacco to the Bengals. Stefanski said he would let the week play out and make the decision later when asked about QB2 role. Stefanski also would not say if the team would sign Zappi to the active roster ahead of Sunday's game so that one of the backups would serve as the inactive emergency quarterback. Oh, Joe, what are we doing? It's already been reported that Bailey Zappi was taking a lot of the practice squad snaps. Yeah. Listen, Kevin Stefanski is really enjoying this moment.
32:43Kevin Stefanski is making the Browns organization basically Jerry Springer. He's making it basically Maury Povich. When Maury Povich does the goddamn DNA test and the girl gets up screaming and they run around with the camera. Yeah, yeah. That's exactly what he's making. He's making a mockery of the situation and enjoying it.
33:03Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. He's enjoying it. Just announce the goddamn quarterback, who's quarterback number two. If Bailey Zappi had been taking the practice reps, knowing that Shador, Joe Flacco, I'm gone. If Shador was already number three, and goddamn Dylan Gabriel goes to number one, and Joe Flacco, I'm gone, then that makes goddamn Shador number two. Why are we playing these goddamn mind games? Like, what are we doing? My thing was, Ocho, if he was, let's just say for the sake of argument, Joe Flacco started. Okay, when Joe Flacco was there, Joe Flacco was one. Bailey Zappi was two. Excuse me. Dylan Gabriel was two.
33:34Shannon Sharpe:Shador was three. but the report said Bailey Zappi was getting the practice squad. They signed him off somebody else's team and put him on their practice squad. He comes in or taking reps that Shadour should be getting. So with that being said, I understood the assignment. Ain't no way Dylan Graber going to be taking all those reps and somehow come this regular season, Shadour Sanders is going to pole vault in front of him. So if Bailey Zappi is taking those reps, practice squad reps, Ocho, what's the likelihood? Now, I'm not saying it can't happen, but what's the likelihood? Hey, I don't know what they're doing.
34:09Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. I'm not so sure Cleveland know what they're doing. Maybe they're waiting on Deshaun to come back. I don't know. It says he's been out there. He's been throwing, and I don't know, Ocho. But I just know, look, they've made a mockery of this. We've talked about Cleveland more in the first six weeks of this year than we have at any point in time, and it's not all good, but I really don't know what to make of this. We're going to let it play out. What are you going to let play out? I can see if this was a training camp battle, Ocho, and let it play out. I'm trying to figure out what can someone do in a week of practice, Ocho, that's going to change your mind from where you stand right now to moving like, oh, well, he had a great week of practice.
35:00Shannon Sharpe:nothing whoop-de-doo nothing nothing at all again that's why i said they're making a mockery of the situation that's all i look what's going on got built this little mini gym it's not a it's uh
35:19Shannon Sharpe:they're asking him they're asking shador uh what what do you know what do you what do you mean and that's Dylan Gabriel you ask him what do you think about I'm not playing as Dylan Gabriel what does he think about Joe Flacco being traded why are you asking me I'm the backup to the backup they got that just got started see they're always trying to put a microphone because they're always trying to get him to slip up they're always trying to catch him off his guard don't show they try to they always try it they don't ask they don't ask any other quarterback they don't ask the third string or they don't ask the practice squad guy what do you think about somebody getting traded but somehow the microphone always seems to find Shadour they're hoping he mess up they hope he has a proverbial slip you see that's why he's not starting you see he needs to keep his mouth closed you see this is why he what he is a news cycle huh it's the last name in general they haven't had somebody this polarizing that's not even in that's not even in an important role as of yet they never had anybody like this before they haven't and they don't even know how to handle the situation in general most of the time in a situation like this when you have something as polarizing a polarizing thing like that you you do everything you can to stay away from it but no they're engaging with it in purpose to keep the cleveland browns in a new cycle no different than the goddamn dallas cowboys right no damn different man if i should do i say look man And when I'm starting, when Coach Stefanski tells me I'm starting, then I'll talk to you guys.
36:55Shannon Sharpe:What other backup quarterback are they talking to? You can't do that, though. But you understand the rules, though. You understand the rules. But I'm trying to figure out, Ocho. I'm trying to think. They're not asking Jameis Winston no question. They're not asking Russ any question. Now, all the questions are to Jackson Dart. Right. So my only thing is, okay, so why do you continually ask a backup that's not playing, why are you continuously asking them questions? What do you hope to get from him? I can tell you what they're hoping. I know what they're hoping also. Hey, they're hoping like when you go to the Army, like when you go to the Marines, like when you go to the Navy, they're trying to break you in the beginning to see if you are the one.
37:41Are you built for this? Mentally. That's all. They waiting on the snap, huh? They waiting on the snap. I'm telling you. He has to understand that. I can see the play. I can see the play all the way. I can see the play way before it happened, all the way before it started. How can you not see it if you understand the game and the game that they're playing? I can see it in clear as day. Your owner coming out and saying some of the things he said. True. He got to the training camp. Oh, I see what this is. Okay, now I got to play the game. I see what y 'all are trying to do.
38:13Shannon Sharpe:Right. You got to play the game. Now you're in their structured environment. You got to play by their rules. Yeah. You're right. Listen, even I was in that position at one point. My feet ain't wet. I got my toe in the water. I got my toe in the water, but my feet ain't wet just as of yet. But once I got in the water fully, oh, but you've seen your air bit of day, County, Liberty City. Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts. I can't stop scratching my downtown. Yeah, but I'm not itching to go downtown and tell a receptionist I'm here to talk about my downtown. Some things you'd rather type than say out loud.
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43:09Shannon Sharpe:Hey, ladies and gentlemen, we got a very special guest joining us. We got the world champion in the heptathlon, which signifies the greatest woman heptathlete in the world. The world. She won gold in Tokyo. She won silver in Budapest. She won bronze in Eugene, a Florida Gator alum. Here she is, Anna Hall. Anna, how are you? Hello. I'm good. How are you? I'm good. Let's start with this. I saw a thing a year, maybe a year ago, maybe it was leading up to the Olympics, where Jackie Joyner, who happens to be the greatest heptathlete ever created, back-to-back gold medals in 88, 92, won the silver in 84.
43:52Shannon Sharpe:she even won the gold medal in the long jumping soul and then won bronze bronze and barcelona and uh uh atlanta when you when you sit down and talk to her what did she tell you that gave you the confidence that you know what i can be an olympic champion i can be a world champion yeah i think um she's spoken like so much into me which i'm so thankful for i actually talked to her today um very close um but really from the first time I met her she was always just like no I see it in you like I believe in you and I know you can do this and she started telling me that back in 2022 when I was still on the team at the University of Florida actually so for her to say that when I was so young and I feel like I didn't see it in myself yet um really made a difference and then now along the way she'll like like she was texting me in between events in Tokyo and she knows the standards like I have for myself.
44:48So even when some of them weren't what I wanted, she was like, keep your head up. Like, you've got this, just let it go. And it means so much because I know she's been there. Like, I know she knows exactly what I'm feeling in those situations when we're down under the stadium trying to regroup, so.
45:05Shannon Sharpe:That world record, she set that in Seoul, 72-91, if I'm not mistaken. She was the first woman to generate 7 ,000 points in the heptathlon. You reached that mark. I know she's your mentor. I know she's your role model. But you're like, yeah, I kind of, you know, 7 ,300 sound real nice. That does sound nice. I mean, 7 ,300 is a ways away from just 7 ,000. And I'm just, like, slowly trying to reel her in. but I think the better I get the more I realize I'm like she put that record so far out there yes when you think about it that like nobody's been within 200 points of it that's insane I would argue maybe it's like one of the hardest maybe if not the hardest record in all of track and fields I think the world athletic rankings would agree with me so it's very very motivating but I'm like okay it's going to take like perfect conditions perfect training literally everything I could possibly do correct over the next few years to chase that down you might have to say personal best and everything because like i said she won the gold medal in the long jump so that gets she can run 22 seconds for 200 meters she could run in the 12s for the hurdles so she would so you i mean it might take a personal in every event in order for you to eclipse that record because she was on that day and that day like you said perfect conditions uh she had trained bobby had peaked her at the right time because she had just gotten married to Bobby a couple years earlier because she was just Jackie Jordan in 84 in LA and then when she comes to Seoul in 88 she was favored to win in 84 and then the last event she got nipped uh but it's going to take perfect condition it's going to take you at your absolute apex yes and you have to get every mark yeah exactly something I was super focused on even this year though was like raising my like perfect score, which people say, like, obviously, you're probably not actually going to do seven PRs.
47:05But people keep a record of, like, what are your PRs that up to? And so, finally, this is the first year my PRs actually do. I think it's, like, 73-03. And so, I'm like, I need to bump that up to, like, 74 to give yourself some wiggle room. To give yourself some wiggle room, some margin for error.
47:20Shannon Sharpe:Because, like you said, the likelihood of you PR in seven events over two days, we're asking an awful lot of that body. Yes, exactly. one of the questions i want to i'm going to ask obviously when it comes to some of the goals that you've already you already want and you those that you haven't achieved yet how do you keep from keeping that the main thing obviously because when you have something that you focus on you focus on that one goal and you want to break a record so bad most of the time you end up pressing and we end up pressing obviously you're not really running as free as you should how do you how do you balance both of wanting to achieve breaking the record without pressing and just running your race yeah yeah um it's definitely a hard balance i think when i've chased marks like that like even when i was first chasing down like 7 000 points the first time i was close i missed it like by 12 points and i was like pressing for it so hard and so um fortunately right now honestly with her record being what it is i'm it's not like i'm expecting to get it tomorrow i know this is gonna be it's gonna take a full body of work and it's something you know maybe we'll aim for for the la 2020 olympics would be the perfect storybook place to ever do it um but i know it's not like when i step on the track tomorrow i'm putting the pressure on myself to get it and having the injuries that i've had in my career i think i've learned um not to let people rush me like i would love to do a world record for you all as much as you guys would love to see it i would love to do it but they don't just happen like that and i'm only 24 which in track years is not very old so i'm just trying to be patient with myself and make sure that i'm looking long term at my full development yeah because it's a lot of strain on your body uh and jackie dealt with a lot of hamstring issues if you've noticed i remember watching her she would always have that hamstring taped up because you gotta jump you gotta run you gotta throw so it's just so much and you're pushing yourself to maximum capacity.
49:18Shannon Sharpe:And even though you're not necessarily trying to win the race, although you would like to win, you're going against the standard that you already have set. And so that's asking an awful lot. I say that to transition to this, what is your strongest event? What's your weakest event? What are you trying to like? If I can just get my weakest, you know, three quarters of what my strongest is, I think that gives me an excellent opportunity as well. yeah yeah i think i would say my strongest event i feel like i have to say the 800 since i uh broke like the heptathlon vest in it um so probably the 800 and okay um i would say my weakest event is definitely the long jump um everybody everybody it's not a secret everyone knows that i feel like most people are holding their breath when i get to the long jump um i have injured myself on a long jump board before so i definitely have a lot of like it's a block so you got something in your head yes exactly um and it's something that on paper i should be really good at because i'm relatively fast and track and then yes my best events as well so you would think but it's coming guys um so that's the definitely the big one where um i have a lot of room to grow because even to my own pr i jumped like 60 centimeters less, which is a lot at Worlds than my own personal best.
50:36And I think I even have room to grow on top of that. So that's where I see most of those points coming from. Yeah.
50:42Shannon Sharpe:Were you a heptathlete? Were you a heptathlete in high school? I mean, what made you decide to focus? Because, you know, we didn't have that. So, you know, you ran, you could only run three solo events and you could run the two relays. So you could only compete in five events. So I guess they had heptathletes and decathletes coming along when you were in high school. Yeah, so I actually, I did the heptathlon in club track. And then in high school track, we had a rule. It was like four events. You could enter of anything. So I usually run like one or two relays. Sometimes the long hurdles, high jump.
51:15I was good at long jump then. So long jump then. So really just whatever the team needed. But when I was first starting track, I really loved the 800 and 1500 and high jump. And they like don't go together at all. No. I actually remember I told my dad, like, I want to be the first person to go to the Olympics in the 1500 and the high jump. And he, like, of course, laughed in my face. And he was like, this doesn't really work like that. Like, I love that you're dreaming big, but, like, let's focus. And so since he had done the decathlon, he was like, why don't you try this and put me in one? And as soon as I did one, I knew that that was definitely what I wanted to do.
51:55Hey, you know what? As a former track athlete myself, and I'm thinking about the tedious process and what it takes to even get at the level you're at being elite, where track, it takes up most of your life. what do you like to do outside of track you know being that track is everything you're always asked about everything you talk about where's your other sense of peace where you can just exhale and be like okay this is what I love this is what I'm passionate about this is what I'm enthusiastic about when I'm when I able to get away from it yeah um honestly I don't get much time away training for all seven events it's like I basically signed up for seven times the work and the same working for the same um metal same goal but um when i do get away from track the main thing for me honestly is my family and my friends i have three sisters so um anytime or weekends that i can steal with them is really how i feel like i turn my brain off and then um getting up to i'm in my off season right now so i'm up visiting my boyfriend um that's definitely a way i can like turn my brain off i spend time with my dog i don't have many hobbies besides track honestly which is something I'm going to work on.
53:06I'm trying to become a better chef maybe this offseason. Things I don't usually make. We're starting not in the best place but I was like one week every week I'm going to make something I've never made before and then kind of just pick up new hobbies like that.
53:22Shannon Sharpe:Who are you going to test it out on? This boyfriend if you want to tell the name? Yes you can know. Darius. Darius Slayton is my boyfriend and And so my brother, New York giant dairies. Yes. Yeah. Which I'm sure is he is he is he the the guinea pig that this new thing that you try every week? Yeah. Like, hey, honey, look what I made for you. Yeah. I was like, we're one weekend and I went safe and decent. But he's he will be brutally honest with me, which I appreciate. He will always tell it to me straight. So I know I'm going to come with my A game and look up maybe the simplest recipes. and like the easiest not to mess up.
54:04Shannon Sharpe:So what do you like cooking? You like cooking breakfast food? You like cooking, I mean, are you a brunch type of a lady? Are you, I mean, you shrimp scampi or you like, you know, chicken parm? Are you, I mean, what's Anna Hall? So if somebody said, you know what, Anna, I want you to make me your favorite dish tonight. What you cooking? My favorite dish is definitely breakfast. I think I do a good breakfast. I love, that's my favorite meal. Yeah, my favorite meal of the day, I could eat it for dinner sometimes. Yes, yes. I make like basically like an egg scramble bowl with like mashed up hash browns, sausage, chicken sausage, peppers, onions, spinach.
54:45You could eat all that? Like all in the bowl. I eat after breakfast like every day before training.
54:51Shannon Sharpe:I forgot. You're doing seven events? Yes, you can eat that. That ain't nothing. You probably could eat two of those. No, eating enough is a struggle, honestly. That's like one of my biggest off track battles. So, right. So let me ask you, let me ask you this. What's a, what's a training session like, are you doing all seven events in one day or are you picking a day and say, I'm gonna work on this one, two events today. And then Tuesday I work on another two events and then X, Y, and Z like that. Or how are you doing it? I usually do three events in a day and a lift. So the running joke at our group is that they call me nine to five.
55:29because they're like you're at the track from nine to five every day but um i usually do like an example monday would be hurdles and then i would shot put and then take a little break maybe like 30 40 minutes for lunch come back and high jump and then i probably get to the weight room around like four get done the weights at like 5 30 and so i started at 10 so pretty much going from like 10 to 5 30 um it just takes a lot a lot of time to learn all that technique you've gotten
55:56Shannon Sharpe:you've gotten better at the shot. I saw you in the shot. I was like, okay, okay. I see. I see the improvement. Thank you. I was proud of that one. That used to be a weakness for sure. I maybe would have named that before I named long jump like a few years ago. So I was super proud of that. And the Europeans are like such good throwers. I was like, and you should be too, because of your body type, how long you are. You should be able to launch the shot. Cause I'm looking at your body type and you look at them. I'm like, hold on. How you... You shouldn't be able to throw it. I mean, they're throwing it like it's a BB.
56:34Yeah, exactly. My first U20 Worlds, I was like, there's no way I'm the same size as this girl. I used to tell myself, why are you too small? And I was like, I'm the same size as this girl and her shop is going two meters farther than mine. So I was like, we have to catch up. The Europeans have typically just start technical events before us. So they have a little bit of a jumpstart.
56:53Shannon Sharpe:but yes, I'm happy. I was able to catch up and pass most of the girls that I needed to. So you, because, you know, most, like you said, like the throws and the jumps, the speed events, the Americans, you know, the 200, the hurdles, you know, things that, you know, the things that require speed. But man, when you look at stuff that that's a lot of technique, I'm like, I'll be looking, I'll be looking at them. Like how you do that? Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is crazy. Cause the stereotype is that like, we're more, we're faster we're more powerful and then they're just efficient um with how they work and their form and all of that and um actually which i feel like i can it's not her but her one of the coaches of my rivals like when i first came on the scene they were like oh there's an american heptathlete like we haven't had um a lot in a while and um he was like oh well she's just fast like of course typical of the americans but like she has no technique i remember that like two years ago i I was like, I'm going to work on my shot foot and my javelin.
57:52So definitely I had a chip on my shoulder there.
57:57Shannon Sharpe:Right. So how do you fuel? So for a training session, how do you, so you eat the bowl. So you got scrambled eggs, you got hash, you got sausage, you got peppers. Okay. Now you go to the track. So you probably, I mean, at the weight you, at the work you're expending, the calories that you're expending, you probably can eat about 3 ,000 calories a day. Yeah, probably. I mean, I don't count calories, but I would bet that that's close to what I'm eating. Absolutely. And then you say, okay, I get a break. You eat breakfast. How soon after you eat breakfast do you head to the track? You give yourself an hour for it to digest?
58:35No, I wake up as late as I can. I let it digest in the warm up. I'll be fine. But I have a protein shake usually after my first event. and then when I break, I break for lunch and so I'll eat like something with meat. I don't count calories, I count protein. So I'm trying to get like 100, 120 grams a day, which for someone my size is a lot.
58:59Shannon Sharpe:That's absolutely, that's damn near a cow a pound. Yeah, I weigh a lot more than 120 pounds. No, but I'm saying it's almost, but I'm saying, but if you think about it, 100 grams of protein, 120 grams of protein, that's a lot of calories. And then when you throw in, I mean, maybe rice or, you know, some type of leafy vegetable, kale, you know, things like that. I mean, you getting a large. So now, okay, you go back to the track, you wind down. What's dinner? It really depends. I feel like I usually, I like steak a lot. I eat a lot of steak. So like a Chipotle bowl. Okay. If I'm being lazy or I cook, sometimes I'll make like crab cakes and like a pasta dish, something hearty like that.
59:52And then I usually have.
59:54Shannon Sharpe:You taking that kind of time to cook, Anna? Sometimes. You got that kind of energy? Yeah, depends on the day. Okay. But I want to cook more, so that's my, I'm trying to get better at it. And then before bed, I usually make myself like a Greek yogurt bowl just to like get my last protein calories in, which, yeah, typically has been a struggle for me. But we got it dialed in this year. So now I have my regimen. So do you have a nutritionist? Is everything always on the healthy side? do you have any cheap meals like mcdonald's like i i love to consume or is everything always it has to be predicated towards what you do um i honestly feel like my mom did a really good job when we were growing up i i like healthy food um because that's what i grew up on but my coaches and my nutritionists all the time are like eat something dirty like go have the pizza have the burger whatever um so they're always telling reminding me of that so So dinner sometimes will be something like that.
1:00:59But really the thing is I have a sweet tooth. So I try to keep my main meals clean. So then I'm like, okay. Cookies, cake, ice cream. By the time I've eaten all of that food, I'm not that hungry for a giant sweet treat. But I won't tell myself no if I want. Like if I'm before bed, I want ice cream or I want a little cookie or something. Like I pretty much never do so no to that.
1:01:19Shannon Sharpe:But that's the thing that people get confused, Anna, is that you don't realize how hard it is to consume a healthy diet. When you eat chicken, you eat chicken, fish, or you eat lean cuts of protein, and you eat leafy vegetables, and you eat brown rice or white rice or whatever. To try to get to the allotment that you are, it takes a lot. I mean, you just get sometimes, I mean, when I was trying to consume 4 ,000 calories a day, but it was healthy. bro I just I just got so much chewing I'm just like nah bro I'm good no exactly and that's honestly where offseason I was like I lose muscles so fast just because I'm like I don't have to force myself to eat anymore so I won't and then I start I restart our fall training like 10 pounds lighter and my coaches are like all right let's go yeah Anna thank you for joining us congratulations on the World Championship gold medal.
1:02:15Shannon Sharpe:We got the ultimate. Obviously, you're going to be competing that next year, correct? Yes, I'm going to try. They don't have the multi, which is a little bit rude, but I'm going to compete in probably the high jump or the 400 hurdles. I'll run on the circuit to qualify. Okay, okay. That's what Jackie did. I don't want to get left out. I'm going to do my best to qualify and make it there. That would be unbelievable because there are not very many women or athletes in that point, decathletes, that can go into an open event and be competitive, which I do believe you could be in the 400 hurdles. I do believe you could be that because I've seen you run.
1:02:54Shannon Sharpe:You have the endurance because you're graded 800, so you have the strength to run. The question is, you know, that lactic acid build up about the 300 mark. Yes, yes. No, those girls are so good at it, And so I'm excited to give it like hopefully a better effort than I have in the past. Cause usually I just run them on a whim, but I really want to focus on it a little bit more next year. Well, congratulations. I know things are not going well for the jazz, but tell him keep his head up, stay healthy. And yes, when you come back and when you win the ultimate goal, when you come back and you, you do something special, come back and join us and tell us about it, please.
1:03:28We'll do. Thank you very much.
1:03:30Shannon Sharpe:Thank you. Thank you for joining us. Anna Hall world champion, helped athlete. Thank you, Anna. Ocho, we got breaking news. Another major trade between the Jags and the Browns. Jaguars get cornerback Greg Newsom and Jets' 2026 sixth-round picks from the Browns. Browns get Tyson Campbell, the Eagles' 2026 seventh-round picks from the Jags. The trade partners from the night of the 2025 draft now pull off another midseason trade. Hey, listen, that's a good trade. That's a good trade. Now, I don't understand why they were making it. The Jags, yeah, the Jags going for it. Oh, yeah, listen, especially for the Jags.
1:04:07I don't, and this is the thing I would get ready to say. Greg Newsom is a phenomenal, huh? For sure. Greg Newsom ain't no slouch. You know, we understand what Denzel Ward is on the other side, but when they try to go to Greg Newsom's side, but that young boy can play some ball. So this is a win for the Jags. And with great understanding of why they did it, it's because, oh, we finna push all our chips to the front. we pushing all our chips to the front because we really believe we have a chance right now with the way Trevor Lawrence is playing yep that's that's respectable and if you're a Jaguars fan I commend ownership I commend your GM and I commend your goddamn head coach they done pushed all their chips on the table we going in hey um the chat funny as hell um what happened they just been going in on you they going in on me talking about I look like Devo I look like a Mexican with damn flat on home what they going on me for what i do nothing go ahead what i do ocho oh they kill they killing me what they say i do hold on chat what i do
1:05:14Shannon Sharpe:oh i was just asking i was just asking questions damn i can't ask no questions hey it ain't funny boy look i know i know you guys think but here's the here's the real when it comes to track and field I don't have a research team. I'm old enough to remember. Y 'all, I'm 57. So I go all the way back. I remember the 84 Olympics. I remember Seoul. I remember Barcelona. I remember Atlanta. I remember Athens. I remember Sydney was in 2000. Athens was in 2004. Beijing was eight. London was 12. Rio was 16, 21. I remember what y 'all want me to do. I remember the world championships when they came out.
1:05:57Shannon Sharpe:I'm sorry that y 'all can't remember your way home. That is my fault. I've told you, if you know Shannon Sharp, if you watch me at any point in time, I told people my favorite sport is track and field. Yes, I love football, and I know the history of football. I know the history of basketball, but I love track and field. I'm playing around the track and field. I mean, if I didn't really have to talk about football, I'd go to the gym. But when track and field on, I ain't going nowhere. It's the only sports that I watch with the sound. No other sport will I watch with the sound. And for them to take their time out to come on nightcap, what other platform other than my boy Justin Gatlin and his partner that give track and field athletes the platform like we do?
1:06:45Shannon Sharpe:Well, yeah, you're right. You're right by that. I'm sorry that I ask questions that I think the chat would want to hear. What do you eat? What are your training sessions like? X, Y, and Z. Yes. So I'm just, I'm confused at what y 'all think I'm supposed to do. Like stutter or go through it? Yes. There are no notes on here with Anna Hall. I know who she is. I know she's a Florida alum. I know she's from Colorado. I mean. Yeah. Y 'all. Don't worry about it, because they're still killing me. They told me I look like Jody from Baby Boy. Man, people are weird. I mean, like, I'm not supposed to ask any questions.
1:07:26Shannon Sharpe:Like, I'm supposed to be like, what are you like? No, I know the history. I can't wait for us to have Ryan Krauser on so I can talk to him about the shot. The greatest shot putter ever. Anna was talking about Jackie's record that she set in Seoul, 72-91, seems unbreakable. That woman shot putter, the USSR, ain't nobody breaking that one. No. No. No. No. You know what's funny? It's the same way you are about track and field. One of the one sporting... You like that about soccer? Oh, my God. When soccer come on, my phone don't do not disturb. On Saturdays and Sunday, I'm mad. I fly to London in the morning.
1:08:16My flight at 5 o 'clock. I'm mad that I'm going to London and everybody on goddamn international break. Everybody on international break. So that would have been a perfect time for me to catch a goddamn game. I could sneak and go catch a game.
1:08:28Shannon Sharpe:Everybody's gone. Ocho, does this mean we'll see Travis full-time on offense? Greg Newsom was the number 26 pick in the 2021 NFL draft. Tyson Campbell was pick 33 in that same draft, just seven picks apart. You know what? I'm curious what they're going to do because they have a phenomenal nickel in Jordan Lewis, right? I'm not sure who's on the other side, but you know, Greg Newsom is coming in on one side. and he's going to be that guy. That guy that can do it. I still think they know Travis Hunter wants to continue to contribute on defense. I think he'll continue to have those packages. They're going to find ways to fit him in there at some point.
1:09:08But what we saw offensively, he's too dynamic, huh? They have to find ways to get in the ball on offense. He's too dynamic. You put the ball in the area, anywhere in the vicinity, he's going to make that play, especially those jump balls that are ready to fit 50. Where he can showcase his athleticism. Yeah, they become 80-20 with somebody like that. Yeah, so, I mean, listen, he's too dynamic, you know, and showing flashes of brilliance in which we saw at Colorado on both sides of the ball. So I hope they allow him to continue doing his thing on both sides, giving them a healthy count on both sides of the ball.
1:09:44We're going to be effective and efficient, but they don't overload him. Correct. able to play at his best on both sides.
1:09:53Shannon Sharpe:And that's what it comes down to because they need a special player on one side of the ball or other. It doesn't work for them if he's average on both sides of the ball, Ocho. He has to be dynamic on one or the other. Right. Because that's why you traded up, Ocho. That's why you gave up what you gave up to get him. Because if you gave up what you get him and you just got an average player, that doesn't make sense to me. So let him be dynamic. Let him be dynamic, and then you, like you said, bring him in on the package. Me, personally, I still think he's better at defense. I think his instincts, his ball skills are just second to none.
1:10:27Shannon Sharpe:I know you like him because of the jump ball, but right now it's just athleticism. Now, once he learns the route tree, I give a prime example, Tyreek. Remember when Tyreek first came in, he was a gadget guy? And then all of a sudden, Tyreek learned the route tree. Tyreek has played his way into a Hall of Famer. Yeah, absolutely. Travis Hunter has that kind of ability. He's just got to get better at running the route. Right now, they're only running most spots and jump balls. Yeah, if I could get, if I could, Trav, I know you're going to see this. If I can get with you in the offseason. Yeah, that'd be great for him.
1:10:59I don't need much time, Trav. I need you for two months. Two months. We're working four days a week. All I need is an hour. An hour of your time for four weeks. I know you already have your train. I'm not trying to step on nobody's toes. I'm talking about running routes.
1:11:11Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I'm talking about giving the illusion of doing something that you're really not at full speed. Oh, my goodness, brother, what I could do with you. Oh, my goodness, what I could do with you. Hope we take you up on that, Ocho. Man, listen. Now, you know that's my specialty now. I do. Man. Hey, Trav, come on, holler at your boy in the offseason. I don't need much time. An hour a day. That's it. Rock running? I wish they would come up there and play press. Come on up here if you want to. Shh. Are you looking for support in your weight management journey? ZepBound Terzepatide may be able to help.
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