Nightcap Hour 1: Johnny Manziel, Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Alabama beats Vanderbilt at home, the Florida Gators beat Texas in a thriller and Colorado FALLS AGAIN!

22:53People taking care of me. They love me out here, except for you little frat punks. We good. And last thing, I got all my money back. I lost on Vandy tonight. So, bang.

23:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Bama look good. Hey, Ocho, you see that 370-pound fullback? They're running back. They got big proctor. Big proctor. Hey, let me tell you something. When he makes it to the next level, whatever team takes him needs to keep him in that same area of special plays and being a gadget player. And the one coach or the one team I think he's – Dan Campbell. Lions, the Lions. Why was I – hey, Dan Campbell. I was just getting ready to say it. I was already thinking. Because you saw him throw a screen pass to Panay Sewell. You see him throw a back shoulder fade to Decker tackle. So they – their offense is Ben Johnson, and I don't know the coordinator now.

23:48Shannon Sharpe:But they – hey, they'll try anything. anywhere because it's all about winning. And they don't, hey, you're playing well. Hey, son, you ever caught a ball? You ever caught a pass before? Not a long time. Well, we're going to throw your ass one this week, son. So get ready. It's so funny when you think about it. At what point, at what time has it ever, all I can think about is refrigerator pretty, the fridge. You caught, yeah, the fridge, yeah. You're getting that dive back in the days. I had never seen anything like that before. But now to see a guard or a tackle out there catching screen passes?

24:22Shannon Sharpe:running the ball too. Ocho, they put him in an offset eye. He came to the quarterback with the pocket and then bounced it. I ain't never seen nothing like that. Hold on. You ain't see his footwork when he caught the screen. Oh, last week. Last week he was Georgia. Yeah. You ain't see the footwork on the sideline. Ocho, and then he tried to drive for the pylon. He tried to dive for the pylon. But, you know, he had that harness on. Ocho, you know, you got that harness on, you can't really raise your arm too high to keep it from going so high. But it was fun to watch. But when you look at, I agree with what both of you said about, especially you, Johnny, about Vandy.

25:04Shannon Sharpe:When you look at Vandy, their defense is really good because they got after Ty Simpson in the Alabama offensive line. They did pressure him. But they got a quarterback now. It's hard to win in today's game at any level if you don't have that guy. Now, there was upon a time, if you had an outstanding defense. Yeah. You could have anybody. You could run the football and win. Yeah. Not anymore. Those days are long gone. Hey, Unk, you can't, and Johnny, I'm sure we'll talk about this team. Most of the time, especially today's game, you throw the ball so much, you have to throw the ball to win because some of the defenses aren't as good as they used to be back in the day.

25:46The one player that you can't hide and will get exposed is your quarterback. Yeah. He is your quarterback. And I saw it today because the entire world, well, they told me, Johnny, I'm sure you heard it. Nuck, I'm sure you heard it, that he was the next coming of Jesus Christ, or he was supposed to be. Right. Well, you know I'm going with that.

26:06Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's tough. It's tough to play without a quarterback now because like you said, Ocho, that's the only position that you can't hide. Right. I can roll coverage. I can slide the line. I can chip. if I'm the running back, you know what I'm saying? If a guy doesn't have great hands, I bring somebody else in and let him play third downs. I can do a lot of different things to hide a lot of players. I can slam my offensive line to keep you off my – excuse me, my defensive line to keep you off my backers. But the quarterback, how do you hide it? You can't. And listen, today in this game, one thing about college football that's different from the NFL is an NFL cover two defense.

26:47You watched it. There were teams, I had Brian Erlacher on my podcast. He like, man, we were in cover two all day long. Yes. Cover two in college football, if you were not really fundamentally sound in where you're supposed to be and your backers get depth and your corners play it right, Vandy today stayed in cover two for too long. And Ty Simpson did what he needed to do with his eyes and threw the whole shot maybe six times. Yep. Ocho. When you got wide open hole shots all day on third down, second down and long, they're getting behind the sticks. Vandy gets a second and 20. Bang. Hole shot for 18 and it's third and two.

27:29Those were plays where they just got, I'm just sitting there on the sideline screaming, like, give me a two man. Mix it up. They ran a simple stick and go on the outside corner and back or both jump on the low route. and Ty Simpson just drills the whole shot before the safety can get there. And it's like 15 yards, 16 yards, 22 yards. Chunk plays. And you can't have that. And they just got eaten away. And especially when you're getting gashed in the run game too and you do finally get the pressure and you do finally get into long situations and you can't get off the field, you're not going to have success.

28:07Go to cover three. Give me some quarters. Give me something. Hey, Johnny, in situations like that, you see a game like today, you got to be able to take away something. Either you're going to take it to the front or you're going to take away the pass. But you can't allow them to dominate on both sides. You can't allow them to be successful in the pass and the run. Then you're at their mercy.

28:28Shannon Sharpe:And look, we know how to get you out of cover too, Ocho. We run your ass out of cover too. Absolutely. And because Alabama was running the ball well enough, the linebackers take one step forward. Now, that's an extra couple of steps that you're going to have to take to get back. and then by that time, Bama receivers are in those gaps. Too late, yeah. And that's what you have to do. Now, a lot of teams play what we call play cover two and they call it run camp or two, where they take the mic back and they run. But when you do that, yeah. But here's the thing. Hey, you take off like you're trying to get down the hole and then you just stop.

29:03Shannon Sharpe:Or you run him down the hole and then you take the receiver that's outside the numbers and run him on the dagger route. Yeah. And they did it all night. They did it all night. It didn't matter what they did. And then even early in the game, even in cover three, they were just seaming it, making sure. It was just a good offensive game plan from Bama. And to be honest, Vandy coming out in the second half and not being able to score points, having a couple three-and-outs and giving them the ball so much. Time of possession for Alabama versus Vandy in the second half was atrocious if you're a Vandy fan.

29:41but listen this is still a good football team in Vandy it's a trending forward Alabama team and so many people after last week when we spoke were like man you're a Bama hater and this and that I ain't gotta love them I ain't go there what are we talking about I respect the SEC and I love SEC football there's a lot of people here that treated me great today in Tuscaloosa that respect what I did and respect the matchups we had. You got to look at it the same way with Diego Pavia and what Vandy did last year. They came and got the better of you out of nowhere. Now you come back, you get your revenge, and it's a good game.

30:18But it's split. 1-1. They're saying, it is what it is. And to be honest, these teams may meet again.

30:27Shannon Sharpe:Also, this is not your father and your grandfather's Commodores. I mean, when was the last time we saw a Vandy ranked 16. When do we have last time we saw expectations? Normally you go into Vandy, you're going to get a great education. You go into Alabama, you're trying to go to the NFL. You go to Georgia, you're trying to go to the NFL. I was telling a story today when we played Vandy in 2013. I had half a shoulder, half an ankle, and went 25 or 26 and the ball barely never touched the ground. We were out there toying. This ain't that Vandy. And props to them, props to their program, props to what they've done.

31:06But sometimes when you take the goalpost out and you run it all the way down Broadway to the river, it doesn't sit well with Alabama fans. And they were juice for that one today.

31:17Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man, look, they lucky. They lucky they didn't scoop up Alabama buses and take them and throw them in that damn river. We beat your ass in four decades. I mean, think about it. Some of their parents wasn't alive last time they beat Alabama. And you think I'm not going to do something crazy. you can find us a million dollars. The goalposts coming down on both ends. Not just one. Both of them. I'm taking both. B-O-F-F. Both. I'm taking both of the mofo down. Man, come on. That's better to think about it. Vanderbilt beating Alabama. Yeah, man. Yeah. Been a long time since. Yes! Four decades. How do we feel about Kellen DeBoer's seat now, two weeks later, than what we were talking about three weeks ago?

32:02He heard all the talk. They put a little cushion under that thing, huh? Yeah, they absolutely did. They absolutely did.

32:10Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is, I think they set his record. I think he's like 117 and 17. But you at Alabama. That ain't that James Franklin record. Hell no. Alabama measures success in SEC championships and national championships. That's how they measure success. You want to be 10-3, but if you bring us the SEC championship and you go play for a national championship, we'll forgive that. All that 12-1, 13-1, and you ain't in the SEC championship game, and you're not in the national championship. I'm not trying to hear all that. Because what they're going to say, Ben, they're done that. Those are fans that are spoiled.

32:51Shannon Sharpe:You get Coach Bryant for two decades, and then you get another two decades out of Nick Saban. You win 12 national championships. How many did you play for? How many SEC championships did you win? That's the expectation of Alabama. As I'm rooting for Vandy today and people are looking at me like, we're hosting you here and this and that, I go, how many times have y 'all won or been? How much success? There's nothing. You sprinkle in a loss here and there. But it hasn't been consistent at all. So Devandy and what they're doing with their success, I was pulling for that. And Pavia is a great kid.

33:29He is a great dude. I see so much of myself in him that I'm going to continue to be friends with him and try and help him. That's what I'm going to do. But you look at it. You guys both tell me what you think. The rest of the schedule for Alabama, they play at Mizzou next week. They play Tennessee at home. They play South Carolina on the road. They play LSU at home, and they play OU at home. And then end the season, of course, with Auburn. So this, we're going to see exactly what you're made of. Oh, yeah, for sure. You got three ranked, two ranked matchups coming up. South Carolina, who knows?

34:09They can get a little bit better. And then you got two more ranked matchups. It's a tough schedule.

34:15Shannon Sharpe:It's a tough schedule. Matier, is he back? Exactly. He'll be back. Matier will be back by 11-15. Okay. Well, see, there you go. It ain't stopping. It ain't slowing down. This is SEC football, baby. Mizzou is going to be tough. Yeah. South Carolina will be tough on the road. Tennessee. Tennessee shouldn't be Georgia. Yeah. It doesn't matter what Auburn's record is. The Iron Bowl is always the bowl. Always good. You already know. I've tried to wreck your season. I really am. I mean, we're not going nowhere. I like it. I mean, we can't go. You can't either. The Gators wreaked havoc on Arch Manning to take down the number nine Texas Longhorns, 29-21.

35:02Shannon Sharpe:All that preseason hype with the number one ranking and all the excitement surrounding Arch Manning era are long in the rearview mirror. Arch finished with 263 passing yards, a pair of touchdowns, and a pair of INTs, a defense that has been elite so far this season with Gash for 159 rushing yards by that Gators attack. There may be an outside chance this team can get back in championship capability, but Texas don't look good, man. No. Hey, I'm going to go first. Obviously, if they're to get back in contention and have any chance at winning, let alone just throughout the season, as opposed to even thinking about getting it to play off, they have to have better quarterback play on.

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39:30Now, despite what all the analysts say, all the people say, and what the praise is and how you're supposed to be, he's going to need a year like this. He's going to need a year like this with some bumps, some bumps and bruises and grinding and getting familiar with what's going on this year. And I'm assuming maybe next year he will come back much better, having a year under his belt to get familiar with the speed of the game being able to process things a little faster and know what's coming and knowing some of the nuances and what you can and can't do as far as taking chances with the ball sometimes how it just feels to go into these stadiums and into these big games right for him it's not arch's fault and we have sat here and i've been critical of him and i've said certain things um and it's not his fault it's not his fault his last name is what it is.

40:21It's not his fault that people were clamoring for him last year with Quinn Ewers. And when I saw the score tonight, of course being an Aggie, they laugh at our pain every single year. We're the butt of the joke every single year. So now, it's my turn, okay? I'm laughing. And I said, man, I bet you boys miss Quinn Ewers. I bet all that clamoring and all that jaunt about Quinn Ewers, Quinn was slinging it. Quinn got you to between two plays and getting into the natty the Michigan year that they wanted so listen it's not Archer's fault he's a sophomore he is a young kid that is developing under a very good coach in a program that has potential but this is a Florida team that we have sat here for countless minutes and said what the hell they doing wait can we get urban can we get Jimbo can we get something but you look lagway played great that is lagway we expected to see and when you look at it from a texas standpoint arch manning being the leading rusher with 37 yards and as a team rushing for 52 you can't get out your own shadow no yeah that that is two yards a carry two terrible so look this is a texas team too that has opportunity you still got chances you go and lose one to florida guess what guess what next week is that one split down the middle in dallas yeah oh they play oh you rank top five wow you go win that game it's gonna get ugly you never know is material back maybe you catch them this year without their starting quarterback all right so for texas it's not all bad you're gonna catch some flack for the aggies and me because we're finally winning and you guys taking L versus a team that's been terrible.

42:14But at the end of the day, for Arch, these are growing pains. A year for him as a sophomore, he can come back two years and be a great quarterback and have a great career and do what he needs to do and be a Texas legend. But for right now, this team, the preseason number one, they're not that team that we thought they were.

42:33Shannon Sharpe:No, I think the thing is that when you look at it, everybody, all Texas fans, put an arch, put an arch, y 'all skewer. And I was like, I thought you were bad. I wasn't clamoring for Arch Manning because I had seen enough because I've seen him putting up stats against San Jose State. I said, bro, that's not SEC competition. Now, when I see him put up numbers like that against SEC competition, then maybe I'll start clamoring for him. But the thing that's working against Arch is expectations and that last name because the thing was happening, man, Peyton would have made that throw. Peyton would have did that.

43:05Shannon Sharpe:Eli, he ain't even Eli. But, bro, you do realize, like, those were number one overall draft picks, both of them, was number one overall draft picks. Peyton is a top five quarterback, and you might not take him out of the top three with all that being said. Eli just one of the best big game quarterbacks in NFL history. He beat Tom Brady twice in the most meaningful game that our sport has to offer. But, I mean, who's surprised? Y 'all really thought that Arch Manning was going to be Peyton? Y 'all really thought that? I did. I thought it was going to be great because most of the time, you know what happens when you come from that type of lineage of great quarterbacks?

43:49Most of the time, it trickles down one after another. No, it don't. There's one thing, Osh. It's the mental side of things. It's the how to carry yourself side of things. It's what you see from the greats that you've been around with access that nobody in the world gets to see. but where he went to school when you go watch arch manning highlight tape and you see the dudes that are chasing after him me yeah my grandma in a wheelchair moved faster than some of them boys they were chasing after him right he ain't play 6a me and my boys were talking about this the other day if he you put him in 6a dallas or houston football right you're gonna see some dogs yeah you're gonna see some people who can play he didn't play that competition so this is his first level of playing guys who are real real dogs right you play in the sec and you get an offer and you're a starter you can play you got the size you got the speed you don't see a lot of you don't see a lot of bums out there so yeah yeah it's gonna take some time for him to get used to that and it's not his fault that's just where he went to high school i didn't i didn't go to a high school that was 5a 6a in texas but my coaches were so gangster that they wanted to go play those guys in our non-conference.

45:00They're like, you know what? Even if we get smoked, we're going to see stuff that we may not see in the playoffs, or we'll be ready for the playoffs. It made us better. So this, if you handle it the right way, as he's going to have Peyton and Eli and everybody in his ear, listen, failure produces growth. This stuff produces growth. If Texas goes 8-4 this year after being preseason number one, that's hungry offseason. That's growth. Yeah. And the funny thing, too, about it, Johnny, and the kind of piggyback on what I was saying about, obviously, Arch, and I mean, I'm talking about Arch, Peyton and Eli being so good, and why I thought, well, hell, well, maybe he's going to fall right behind because I look at the Bosa brothers.

45:44I look at the Watt brothers. I just look at how they both, obviously, were great at their respective crafts. So I expected, after hearing all the noise about Arch, I'm expecting him because I've never seen him play. I never saw him play. I didn't see him play in high school. I saw a small symbol size of him as a freshman. So I'm thinking, well, hell, Quinn Edwards is now gone. I'm thinking he's going to be all world. And then come to find out it's really not what I thought it would be. And just growing pains, growing pains.

46:17Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, your point is valid when you look at brothers, but their dad wasn't the sons. a Archie Manning I remember Archie Manning playing he's the number two pick in the draft yeah he wasn't Peyton we talked about this the likelihood so you want God to just give you everything you know what I'm in the Hall of Fame and I want my son to be great too so Magic Johnson and all these kids with sons you want them to be the equivalent of what their dad was Bobby Bonds was an outstanding player right he wasn't Barry Ken Griffey Sr. was an outstanding major league player. He wasn't junior. That ain't happening.

46:58Shannon Sharpe:So the likelihood of like, really? Yeah, I thought it would have been three. I thought, he got a long way to go now. He got two full years after this one. You can look up, he can stay, do the Colt McCoy thing, stay his entire career at Texas. Play three years, and you can look up he can be the number one pick in the draft in 2028 or whatever it may be he can he still has that but he has to grow he needs reps he needs time he's got the lineage he's got everything like you said it just takes some time man he's not where he needs to be or where everybody thought he was everybody wants things to move so quick get him out he's the first pick in the draft this year and that and reality let the kid be a kid and grow and get an education and have fun and grow into the player that he deserves and needs to be right yeah look at look at dale and stealth dale curry played 16 17 years in the nba dale curry is not his son and that's no knock because when you have that kind of longevity obviously you can play oh yeah absolutely but stealth curry is a transcendent player.

48:10Shannon Sharpe:And so the likelihood, like I said, to be that, like I said, you get brothers. Look, you get the Watts. They get TJ and JJ. Me and my brother, Rondi and Tiki. You get Clay Matthews and you get Bruce Matthews. Yeah. In that situation though, you guys get to grind together, right? You get to grow together. You got to see him and learn from him and follow in that. It's different when it comes decades apart. Right. Yes. And you see it from a sideline when you're six years old and Peyton's winning a Super Bowl. It's not the same as having your older brother two years apart, who is, you're seeing it right in front of your face.

48:52It's different.

48:53Shannon Sharpe:Because you're asking yourself, am I too hard? Am I hard enough? And then he has to deal with, your dad would have made that play. Man, your uncle would have completed that pass. Oh, yeah. Man, you're not your, because I told you the story, Ocho, that Ken Griffith said he can't wait to see his son. And his son struck out, and the guy sitting next to him said, hey, he's not you. And Griffith looked at him and said, name five players who work. Ooh, that's a good one. That's a bar. So when you think about it, now you get an appreciation because Peyton took over for Helton, who ended up playing baseball, who was a great first baseman for the Colorado Rockies, and he didn't look back.

49:34Shannon Sharpe:Eli got in and he didn't look back. I don't think anybody was calling for Peyton or Eli to be replaced. And what he's up against is that legacy. That's what he's up against. And you know, Johnny, this, when you play in the SEC, you might get a legacy scholarship to go there. You damn sure ain't going to get no legacy scholarship to get your ass on the field. Because they all about winning. And they're going to put the best 11 on offense, the best 11 on defense, and the best 11 on special teams. will trot out there every single time. Your last name is not going to save you from them looking in that transfer portal that can bring somebody in and beat you out in the spring.

50:13It's just the facts of the college football world we're in now. You can go slide a million and a half to somebody that played at a smaller school but has a lot of talent but hasn't had the opportunity, and you can have somebody come in in the spring in February, and he can play and he can come in and beat you out. And I don't think that'll be the case, but I definitely think if Texas, depending on how their season goes, they're not going to be accepting what it is right now and what's going on. And this is not a knock to Arch. I think if you look at him overall as a player, has he struggled? Has he hit the things he needed to hit?

50:48Has he looked like himself? No. But does he have the potential and the tools that he needs? Most likely. But you have to develop. and he's with a coach that I believe is a good developer of talent. Absolutely. You have to look from a team standpoint too. Texas lost a lot of pieces last year that made them really, really good from a receiver standpoint, from a defensive standpoint, from a running back standpoint.

51:13Shannon Sharpe:What's the other guy's name they lost? They lost two receivers, right? I think so, yeah. Because one was talking about he was going to run like he was going to go and he was going to break the record. Yeah, Matthew, they lost Matthew Golden. Yeah, he agreed. And they lost another one, too. I forgot his name. Did he go to the top? Isaiah Bond? Was it Bond? Yes, yes, Isaiah Bond. Yeah. The transfer from Alabama because he started at Alabama. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But look, I mean, Texas still has a program that is a lot better shaped than they were when you went through the Charlie Strong years and Mack left and they couldn't find a quarterback and they really struggled.

51:48I mean, they have had a lot of success in the last couple years of getting into the playoff, being close to where they want to be, and they're just not playing their best ball right now. But it doesn't slow down. You got OU this week. You got more games coming up. Like, this SEC gauntlet, depending on what your draw is throughout the year, is tough, man. It is. We were talking about Bama schedule. We talked about A &M schedule last week. Like, some teams may have it easier depending on it not being split down the middle and you playing set teams anymore. Like, we don't play Bama this year. lucky us normally two years ago we got to go to we got to play them we got we we got to play LSU we play every team in our division so now with it being this way it really is luck of the draw and who you play is if they're good or not Johnny you mentioned talked earlier about DJ Langway

52:39Shannon Sharpe:because we felt that he hadn't been playing up to par but he had himself a night tonight 21 of 28 298 two touchdowns had one INT they ran the ball 37 times for 159 yards uh bond uh bond ba had a 27 for 107 and Wilson had six for 111 and two touchdowns so they got the balance that they needed to keep Texas off balance because they was running it and lagway had a day throwing the football and this is the kind of this is what we expected of lagway at the start of the season He was, you know, preseason, he and Arch Manning like, okay, obviously, with Nussmeier, they thought those were going to be the guys in the SEC.

53:19Shannon Sharpe:But this was the best that he's looked. And it might have taken Billy Napier off the hot seat, guys, for at least a week. Or as Luther Bandro used to say, if only for one night. He gets to sleep easy tonight, Johnny. Well, here's the thing I don't like about this, is I can enjoy it and revel in the Texas unsuccessfulness. Next Saturday, 10-11, Florida comes on down to College Station. And that's a nice win for them to build off of, a confidence builder for Lagway. And us being a six-ring team in the country, you know that you're playing a team that is capable of beating a top-10 team, and you're going to have your hands full.

54:04So one week ago, this looked like a game A &M could check off. Kind of. You never want to just check through it, but it was one that you feel like you're going to be confident about winning. And now you kind of look at it and go, okay, we better tighten up because we're getting our best shot for sure. For sure.

54:24Shannon Sharpe:Dallas Wilson finished with six catches, a buck 11 and two touchdowns. It was the best debut for a freshman receiver at Florida in program history. And we know some of the receivers that's come out of there, the high draft picks that's come out of the University of Florida, but this young man had the best debut game in Florida history. But, yeah, Napier's off the hot seat because, boy, hey, he lost this game, and now you're talking about one and four? Oh, he got to get up out of there, Johnny. And they still got – if I'm not mistaken, they still got their rivalry with Georgia. So, oh, yeah, you can't keep losing all these games and then lose the Georgia-Florida rivalry?

55:05A &M number six. They play Mississippi State. They play Georgia's number 12. They play Kentucky. And then they go number four, Ole Miss. Number 15, Tennessee. Number 18, Florida State to finish the year.

55:19Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it ain't looking good for the home team, Mocho. Yeah. But at least they showed in the locker room. At least you can go in the locker room and turn around and look and be like, okay, we got it. Like, we can. We went out and beat a Texas team that's ranked. Are they as good as we thought they were? Whatever. But it's a top-tier SEC team, and we got more of them coming up. So as a Florida locker room, this is a positive season-building thing. Right. Yeah. We was talking about Billy Napier and Kalen DeBoer being on the hot seat. James Franklin said, get your ass off that hot seat. Let me get on there.

55:57Shannon Sharpe:And sure enough, last Saturday they lost to Oregon. They lost to number two Oregon. But this is 0-14. They had fired their entire staff. I don't know. Is that Rick Neuheisel's son? Jerry Neuheisel? It is. Okay. Okay, so now it's the first loss Penn State in 34 games against an unranked team. Penn State, the first top 10 team to lose to an 0-14 or worst opponent in 40 years. Since Texas El Paso knocked off the defending national champ in 1985, BYU. It was impossible for a play. Hey, they ain't going to play off now. No. You ain't losing that game and going to the playoffs.

56:45Shannon Sharpe:Nico Amalaba. Yeah, Molly Lama. Well, he played today. He didn't leave today. They probably, UCLA probably wanted him to go, John, if he had lost that game today. But he played outstanding today. He had 17 of 24, 166, two touchdowns, 16 rushing attempts, 128 yards, three touchdowns. He was outstanding. And again, now everybody last week when we was talking about James Franklin, whoa. But he this, he that. Okay, now what y 'all got? I'm interested to know what y 'all got. The team fired their entire staff. I don't even know where they got Jerry Newhouse from. I don't know if he was on the staff or not.

57:28Shannon Sharpe:But all I know is that the number 17 in the country, the seventh-ranked team in the country, and you go on the road, they might have not won 10 games in the last three years. And as a matter of fact, they had you down at the half 27-7. They had you fade. Hold on. They had Penn State favored to win by what, 24 if I'm not mistaken? Yeah. UCLA covered plus 24 and a half. Ooh. Hey, that's one of those money lines you're looking for all year. Like, ooh, that pays. Well, I hope that wasn't your suicide pick because you know you have a suicide pick and you can pick them, but you can't pick them again.

58:12Shannon Sharpe:Right, right. Hey, here you are week four and it's gone. drew allen 19 to 26 200 yards two touchdowns uh but he was your leading rusher with 11 carries for 78 yards uh ucla ran the ball 53 times 269 yards hey i can just imagine what that time of possession was when you run the ball that many times you probably had the ball for i'm gonna say you had the ball 40 minutes on your 39 minutes and 17 seconds something like that yeah if you got a team that's able to impose their will on you and run the ball at will like that with that amount of yards and have that type of time possession the chances you winning winning a game is slim to none but when you do get the ball you're gonna have to match and score for score and Penn State wasn't able to do that on either side of the ball I'm not sure what's going on especially for them to lose to an old fortune like that and the moniker that they that we always see especially NFL, any given Sunday, well, hell, any given Saturday.

59:13Any given Saturday, and that was the perfect example of that definition today and what we saw from UCLA. This is a back to the drawing board for Penn State. This is a backbreaker. You come out and you play in the game last week where you have real opportunity to go and win, and you feel like, you know what, we let that one slip, but we can build off it, and then you come out and you sit in the locker room at halftime and it's 27-7 and you're looking around, you're wide-eyed, you're like, what's going on? And then the game ends the way that it does. The UCLA team that's been getting laughed at and it's been really tough and Nico's taking a lot of slack for what happened at Tennessee.

59:55So when you look at it in this game, you have to say respect to UCLA for doing what they needed to do, getting people in there and coming and getting a good win versus a top-end team. and Penn State has to be sitting there just kicking themselves because this is a season-ending kind of loss. Oh, yeah, for sure.

1:00:14Shannon Sharpe:Penn State only had nine third downs. UCLA was 10 of 16. Damn. So they converted more third downs than Penn State had. Gap. Total. You go 10 of 16, oh, you're going to have the ball a long-ass time. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. That's so frustrating. Yeah. Because you're hoping, man, let's get the third down. Let's get the third down. Then you get to a third and seven, and all the air gone. Damn. Come on, D. Come on, D. Let's get them off the field. Come on. We didn't get them off the field. We didn't get them off the field.

1:00:58Shannon Sharpe:That was a huge look. Go ahead, Ocho. Go ahead. I was going to say, I mean, obviously, Johnny, you would know better than me. Coach, you understand how college football works as far as entities of this magnitude, especially Penn State, that have a certain standard that they always go by or abide by. Does Coach Franklin make it through the season, you think?

1:01:25I don't think they're going to pull up those same stats we were talking about. I still think they're going to look at it as a guy who's built a good program, a guy that was successful at Vanderbilt. I still think they look at him as a guy that can get them where they want to go. That's just my opinion of the situation. It's one of those things, too. You've got to go replace him with somebody who can do what you want to do. And there's not a ton of guys just sitting out there that you can just go pluck. Look, you are Penn State, which is a prestigious program, but you are not Alabama. You are not USC, Texas, Ohio State, Oregon.

1:02:07You are not that. You are not LSU. So you are a good program, but you can't just come in and buy somebody out of their contract or this. So if you get rid of a James Franklin, who is a good coach and a program builder, you don't want to take a step back and maybe taking a shot on somebody else. So I would think he'll get a grace year and you'll have to come back in next year. And if this continues, then it's something you look at seriously. But that's just my opinion and situation and what I see.

1:02:34Shannon Sharpe:I agree. I don't think they do anything in the middle of the season. This is not a situation like UCLA, Ocho, because they looked at that situation like there is no light on the horizon. We've gone through several years of this and this just isn't going to cut it. Okay, I got you. And you started off 0-3 this year. You lost to a team that you probably weren't supposed to lose to. They're like, nah, we've done. We've seen enough. We've seen enough. And they pulled a plug on it. So I agree, Johnny. I don't think they do anything now. Maybe next year you go back. But who's out there? You're not getting a coach to leave.

1:03:16Shannon Sharpe:SART is not leaving Texas to go to Penn State. Now, you might get some coordinator to go to Penn State. But to get a big-time coach to leave a program? Nah. Nah. You're not getting Freeman to leave Notre Dame. You're not getting Brian Kelly to leave LSU. Kirby ain't leaving Georgia. DeBoer's not leaving Alabama. DeBerry is not leaving Ohio State. The guy at Michigan is not leaving Michigan. So Dan Lanning is definitely not leaving Oregon. So who are you going to hire? You go hire a creative up-and-comer. a G.J. Kinney type of dude who built a good program but is in a smaller school, or you go to the Fired Football Coaches Association, is what John Gruden calls it, and you go find somebody who got bought out for$90 million and try and get him up there and lure him in with another$150 and see how much he likes the bag.

1:04:13Yeah. That's your option.

1:04:16Shannon Sharpe:People are talking about Lane Kiffin. I think Lane Kiffin, the only job Lane Kiffin, he'll leave and go to Alabama. I think that's the only job because first of all if Bama calls everybody's listening that's the one school that everybody you say you you the AD for who? Alabama? The Alabama? The Elephant? That one? Oh okay yeah yeah yeah yeah how you doing? Yeah we just wondered if you okay you listen you listen Nick Saban was at Miami Miami, the Dolphins. Alabama called. He took that call. He's like, man, you know what? This little bit of money y 'all paying me ain't worth it. They don't want to listen.

1:05:01Let me go somewhere that these kids want to get to this level. Yeah.

1:05:06Shannon Sharpe:And they'll hang on and listen to every damn word I say. Where I got a little bit more control. And he built a factory down there. Oh, yeah. Johnny, your team, Texas A &M, the Aggies, number six Aggies 31-9 over Mississippi State they remain undefeated ended up five yards of carry for the game nearly exceeding 300 yards they had 54 carries 299 yards rushing well if you got that many yards rushing you got 40 minutes on your hands maybe a little more 38-17 so 23 first down 7-15 Mississippi State was 1 of 10 on third down. Surprised the score wasn't more lopsided than that. 479 total yards to 219.

1:05:58Shannon Sharpe:13 of 23 for your guy Marcia Reed. He wasn't asked to do a whole lot, but they got the job done 31 to 9. I don't know how much of this game you saw, Johnny, but what did you like about what you saw if you did watch so much. What did you like about what you saw? Because I know you're a big Reed fan. Yeah, no, listen, I watched a little bit of it, but I think you look at the last two weeks for A &M, you get into SEC play, right? They've given up 10 points versus Auburn and nine versus Mississippi State. That is playing very solid, fundamental defense, flying, rallying to the football, not missing tackles, doing the right things.

1:06:39The cool thing, too, for A &M, that Aggies should be excited about, is when you rush for 300 yards, the pressure comes off of marcel reed so marcel reed can now have a 56 completion percentage throw a pick only throw for 180 yards and he only rushed for 30 but it's not one of those things where you're taking 500 bricks and putting it on his back back right you got a defense that's getting you back on the field quickly you got a an offensive line that's helmet to helmet moving moving the line of scrimmage and you have a running back that's going for over 100 yards it's team complementary football yep and that's what you want to see that's the making of a good team not where you're lopsided and your offense has to carry and take over for your defense or whatever it may be but for texas a &m this is another check of the box of an sec win in a game that normally if you don't come out and have your preparation and everything t's crossed eyes dotted and everything you can lose a game like this but i think elko has the guys rolling i think he has them focused and i think you have to look at them and say they are contenders we another check on

1:07:57Shannon Sharpe:the box for a &m man i'm watching a &m come out that tunnel boy they were hype boy they think they had That thing was live, man. I said, okay, A &M, y 'all might be ready. The A &M defense held Mississippi State to under 220 yards of total offense. So when you can run it for 300, hold the opposing team to under 220 in a college game with all the plays that they're going to run, this was a thorough domination. I'm surprised that it went by – like you said, when you run it, I mean, you're not going to rush, I mean, score a bunch of touchdowns running the football. You will keep your defense off the field, and when they do get on the field, they can go hunting because they're fresh.

1:08:39Shannon Sharpe:But I thought A &M played extremely well today. Hey, Johnny, you know what? I wasn't going to agree with you. I was like, man, Johnny being a homer, when it's all said and done, A &M might be dying. They might have something to say. They might be like the devil going down to Georgia. What I said last week, which was exactly this, from what we have seen from A &M so far, if you give it an honest assessment from a full team football perspective, you have seen the right pieces from an offensive standpoint, from a defensive standpoint, and from a special team standpoint. You got a receiving core that could be as good as anybody in the country.

1:09:16You got a ground game that can pop off 300 in your face. You got to, when you run the ball like that, like you said, your defense is fresh. I want my dogs on the D-line who are going to get drafted in that first, second, third round. If they're fresh and sitting on the sideline over there on the cool benches having the water, and they get to go pin their ears back for three plays and get off the field, that is a recipe for success. So, to not jinx my Aggies by hyping them up too much because we have a history. But nevertheless, there's one way to change, and that is do something different. And what we're seeing right now, so far, week in and week out, is very impressive.

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