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19:44Chad Johnson:James, listen, he gonna get another contract, Ark and Ojo. I mean, it ain't gonna be no big deal, but I think you gotta keep him around, bro. You gotta keep him around. To do what? To help orchestrate something, Ark, what you do? If you let him go, what you got? What you going to do? Nothing. Let me ask you a question, Joe.

20:02Shannon Sharpe:Ain't that not there? Let me ask you a question, Joe. You trying to improve the team, huh? Okay, let me ask you this. For$90 million, do you believe I can find me another player that can give me 12 points, go 0-6 from the three-point line, have more turnovers than field goal? Do you, yes or no, that you believe I can find me another player that makes somewhere between$30 and$35 million that can give me what James Harden has given me this postseason? You probably can find a guy. So see, the thing is, we've got to be careful holding on to a name. Yeah. That's what he is now in the postseason. He's a name.

20:41Shannon Sharpe:Far too many times we have not seen the regular season James Harden show up in the postseason. He struggled at times, Joe and Ocho when he was at his absolute apex in Houston with these type of performances. Now he's seven, eight, nine years removed. If we asking him, you know what, James, go give us 30, 15, and eight. James, give us 40, 46, and seven. That's not him anymore. He's not getting by guys. If you think about it, think about how many times he's got to dribble at least 15 times just before he gets into the lane. Man, James Harden used to put that ball and he in the lane. Now it's back up, back out.

21:26Shannon Sharpe:Damn, you still here? Damn, you still here? Damn!

21:32Chad Johnson:Listen, listen, listen. I think he can put... You know what's discouraging is that he is getting some wide open looks and he's just not making them, bro. And that's just not like him. But if they talking about bringing Brun back here, you might as well keep him at the point.

21:51Shannon Sharpe:No, I give me – Bron will give you better production than James Harden and probably – I don't know what they're going to do. I don't know how much they can pay LeBron. But you know what James Harden is? You already know you've been on the phone with somebody and they call and you say, hey, hold on. And you're like – and you're on the phone for like five, ten minutes and they're still there. You're like, damn, you're still here? That's how James Harden is when he's trying to get by somebody. Like, damn, man, you still in front of me? You got to chill. Man, I want the man to succeed so bad because he is, no matter what you think of his postseason, he's earned the respect.

22:33Shannon Sharpe:He's a top 75 player, and you're basing it on what he's done in the regular season. The MVP, you can't take that from him. The scoring titles, you can't take that from him. The assist titles, you can't take that from him. He's been a great player. but far far I don't know have we ever seen a great player as great as James Harden come up as consistently as small in the postseason Jodo based on what he's given us in the regular season nah I don't think so I don't think so you know he's had huge expectations and uh placed on him by himself based on his plate that's not us Joe yeah he did that when his play in the regular season.

23:18Shannon Sharpe:When he went to Houston and we saw the first 30 games in which he played in Houston, you're like, this dude different. Man, you're like, hold on. Y 'all had that guy coming off the beat?

23:29Chad Johnson:Yeah.

23:30Shannon Sharpe:But obviously you got KD and Russ. They were great players in their own right. He was never going to be able to do that.

23:36Chad Johnson:Look, they always said he wasn't going to be able to win a championship with this style of play. You know, and it's been proven to me. It's hard to argue. He's been proven to be right because he's played with some grace, bro. He's played with – he's been on some hell of a team. He just didn't get it done.

23:56Shannon Sharpe:You know, maybe he had a little bad luck. Kyrie got hurt when he was at the Nets. He got fed up with that, the situation, and we all know what transpired, the COVID year and everything and blah, blah, blah. We don't need to rehash that. Kyrie gets hurt. they had the lead and then the Milwaukee wins the next two games or something like that so he's had some bad luck but we watched him in Philly play great and then the game seven he pulled a disappear back Joe we watched him with the Clippers so we've seen far too many times that he's done this and then tonight The effort tonight? Man, come on, man.

24:46Shannon Sharpe:Look, Joe, look here. I'm going to empty the gun and if I'm out of bullets, I'm going to throw the gun. I ain't leaving nothing. You got to empty the clip, bro. Yeah. You got to. Maybe I can hit him upside the head and knock him out or something, Joe. I done missed all the shots, but I'm leaving nothing. I'm coming home with Absolutely nothing. And this is why, like, when I used to train, I said, I don't drop breadcrumbs because this ain't no Hansel and Gretel Ryan. I ain't saving nothing for the trip home. Bro, come on, James. You too good of a player. In order to have these type of small moments far too many times, look, nobody is going to score 35, 40 points every game.

25:37Shannon Sharpe:Jordan has some games in which he's shot six of 19. And Kobe has some bad games. And LeBron and Steph and all the greats have. But a guy this great to come up this small so many times is very disheartening.

25:54Chad Johnson:It is, because he's such a great talent. And like you say, he's a top 75 player. I say Cleveland going to bring him back another reason because they traded for him midseason. They're going to give him a full year. They're going to give him a full season. Now, if that entails a new contract, then oh well. But I don't see him going nowhere, man. I don't see him going nowhere. I think they got to add something now. I don't really know how serious it is if LeBron is going to come there. But I think he'll play great. He will play great off him.

26:33Shannon Sharpe:Who will play great off him?

26:34Chad Johnson:I think James can play off LeBron.

26:37Shannon Sharpe:Man, James got to have the ball. James ain't no off the ball player. That's why he got to – think about who he had. He had Chris Paul. He didn't want Chris Paul. He had Russ.

26:46Chad Johnson:He didn't want Russ. It's different now. He's going to be 37 years old. Man, you can't pound the air out that ball all damn game. You're going to have to do this sometime, but yeah. Who's the last one to see our greatness lead?

27:01Shannon Sharpe:Us. Yeah. I guarantee you I inject him with truth serum put him under the light, got the CIA interrogating him with the threat of waterboarding him and sending his ass to Guantanamo Bay I guarantee you he'll tell you he's still the same player that he was in Houston, he just doesn't have the opportunities

27:18Chad Johnson:Nah, he ain't he ain't gonna say that Nah, hey what Braun already showed you can play off the ball, he ain't got to have the ball in his hands so just hypothetically speaking if Braun is able to go there and go back they'll still allow James to control the ball and do what he needs to do. Take the shots when necessary. Honestly, I think he done lost his confidence a little bit. Just a little bit. It ain't just him. For me, Evan Mobley, he plays so indecisive on what it is he want to do. Sometimes he'll catch it. He should just go to a catch and shoot, but he'll catch, hit, hesitate, and now he's all out of rhythm.

27:59Chad Johnson:I just don't feel that confidence from him, you know, in his game. I don't feel it oozing out of him. You know what I mean? And he the one I felt got to make the leap to make it easier for James and Donovan. Donovan? Let me ask you this. You think LeBron James...

28:18Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to ask you both to ask this. You think LeBron James want to go somewhere else and be the third option?

28:23Chad Johnson:Nah, nah. He ain't doing that. So what option is he going to be in Cleveland? He's going to be the orchestrator. He's going to be like... Well, how are you going to orchestrate if he ain't got the ball, Joe? If he ain't going to have the ball, what you mean? Well, James going to play off the ball? LeBron?

28:40Shannon Sharpe:They are. I say that. Yeah, LeBron has shown he can play off the ball. Right. Have James shown you in his 16 years, 15 years, that he can play off the ball, Joe? Yeah, somewhat. Somewhat. Early in his career, yeah, when he was with OKC. did he really have a choice? Russ had the ball a lot. They give him the ball some but since he's been in Houston when he got to the Nets, what did they do? They kicked Kyrie to the two, they put him at the point. Yeah. When he got, when they got, I don't know if he and Ben Simmons overlapped. I don't think they did. No, they traded for one another. Copenhagen's spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco.

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33:07Shannon Sharpe:They traded for one another. He got the point. When he got to the Clippers, what did they do? Kicked them to the point. When he got to the Cavs, what did they do? so are we sure that he can play off the ball? Because guess what? He don't cut. I can't put him in the dunker spot because he can't elevate. Yeah. So what do I do? Is he going to be a catch-and-shoot guy?

33:34Chad Johnson:Is he going to be Trey Thompson? He's got to go back to some of that. He can't be a ball-dominant guard anymore. Now I'm no damn 37 years old, man. This is a young man's game, bro. Hold on, Joe. Then he ain't got the legs to be able to do anything else off the ball either. Yeah, he can catch it. He can catch and shoot. It ain't like he can't make no shot. He can catch and shoot. Hey, listen, he just ain't going to be high usage guy, meaning, hell, he'll probably be there at about 16, 17 points a game. Like, he ain't going to be in no 23, 25 points a game no more, no. Okay, hold on. Well, if he playing off the ball right and he a catch and shoot guy and he give him 16, 17 doing that, well, hell, he doing that right now with the ball in his hands.

34:13Shannon Sharpe:So we still get the same person. Well, hey, maybe we cut down on his turnovers by not having the ball in. There you go. Seriously. So maybe that 16 to 20 that he give us now minus the five to seven turnovers. Yeah. Right.

34:27Chad Johnson:Hey, man, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I don't know. I know, man. It's hard. You know, it's just hard to watch when you just – when it seems like guys out there dogging and giving you piss poor effort, bro. I mean, that's it. Like, I can live. I can live with us not making shots, but getting out of work, that's something you can bring every game, bro.

34:54Shannon Sharpe:Joe, you know this, Joe. It is really, really hard for a great player to see himself as something other than great. That's why when great players fall off, they normally go. Role players, Ocho, think about it. Role players, guys played 14, 15 years, started 10 games. Mm-hmm. but you have to understand Joe and I know you and Ocho we understand this when you a great player they still expect greatness they don't give a damn if you the same thing with LeBron they hold LeBron at 41 to the same standard at 27 at 30 at 33 at 35 they're going to hold James Harden to that same standard so why do you say man he can't pound the ball like that he 37 that's not what they're expecting because they're paying him to beat that guy.

35:48Shannon Sharpe:You don't give somebody$30 million and say, well, you know, hey, you know, we're going to try to get him like 10 to 12 shots a game because he's not the most efficient player.

35:57Chad Johnson:Well, hey, that high usage rate, man, had them turnovers high as hell too. It's hard to win without them damn turnovers. So you got to cut down some of that, man. Hey, as you age, bro, you got to change your game up a little bit if you want to continue to play this game. I know he'll top the scoring list, but shit, you got to change your game, bro, to continue to play this game at a higher age.

36:23Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You do, but it's hard, Joe. Man, it's hard, Joe. Man, I had this ball. Hey, I mean, Joe, was it hard for you to go from getting 22 shots a night in Atlanta, then all of a sudden you're at Miami like, I'm like, damn, boy, I gotta make these things count. Let me try to get me my four or five layups in this thing, because hey, they gonna snatch me if I shoot too much and they don't go in. You, hey, Joey have no regard, don't come on that fast, like, ha, woo, miss that one, come back down, get another one. Hey, you start getting older, they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hey, Iso. Mm-mm.

37:02Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

37:03Shannon Sharpe:So they look at you different on your, I'm like, oh, hey, I'm starting to get old. i'm like i remember when i first in my prime i'm looking at that place i'm like first 15. like damn boy 84 all over this thing i'm like yeah okay first drive like two maybe we hey we get a touchdown we get we don't go in i got about two or three more i'm looking at the first two three drives oh jojo bad up i'm catching right now hey hey you start adding up your yards and all I'm looking at it. Hey, this is a 10-yard route. Hey, if I just fall down, that's 13 yards right there. Hey, I break a tackle 20. Boy, hey, I go and come back.

37:42Shannon Sharpe:First 15, got one play with Sharp on it. And then I might be the second option. Hell, I ain't even fast no more. The hell?

37:53Chad Johnson:Hey, listen. I know exactly what you mean. But here's what I'm saying, bro. I ain't had no ego when I was playing Uncle Ocho. Like, I thoroughly enjoyed the game, bro. So, you know, if I have to adapt, cool, I can do that. I've adapted so many times throughout my career that it didn't matter. Hell, I wasn't shooting that many shots until I got to Atlanta. I played off a lot of the great guys, you know what I mean? So then when I did leave Atlanta and went to Brooklyn, and I'm playing with D. Will, Brooke Lopez, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, I already knew how to fit in and make it work, you know what I mean?

38:27Chad Johnson:and yeah when I went to Miami of course my shots are going to be limited but I'm going to make them count high efficiency rate I ain't going to be taking a lot of wild shots a lot of unorthodox shots I'm going to make all of them count so look if I was used to getting 15 to 17 now I know I'm only getting about 8 to 10 shots I'm making them count so how many step back 3's were you taking in there because you know he got to get my 3 or another You only get to shoot them step backs if you done made a couple in a row. You know, you feel high. Man, look, you think you just going to come down and you out of rhythm, ain't got a bucket, and your first shot going to be a high, high side step?

39:09Chad Johnson:No step back three?

39:10Shannon Sharpe:No. No, I get it. But, Joe, it's hard, man. I know, bro. Think about how long he was the man. Think about it. You had to learn how to play in the beginning in Boston, not being the man. You had to learn how to play in Phoenix, not being the man. And then you go. So now you had already known how to play without being the man. It's easier. Just imagine. James Harden had the highest usage rate year after year after year. I've been the guy. There's not a shot that I can't take and nobody look at me crazy. Yeah.

39:53Chad Johnson:It's different now, bro. real tall and his age

39:57Shannon Sharpe:we looking at it every day do he see that is different that is the question it doesn't matter what nightcap me you and Ocho think what does he think I think he does I think he sees it Uncle Joe because when you watch the film it's right there the eye in the sky don't lie the tape don't lie man yeah you as a player you got to come to a realization you know what I'm not the same as I once was but I got to find a way to navigate it I got to find a way to evolve my game and be able to adapt, being that I'm not as twitchy as I was. My first step is not as quick as it used to be. I can't get people off the spot the way I used to back in the day.

40:36So now I got to figure out other ways to do it.

40:40Shannon Sharpe:You know, everybody tell me what he did is OKC. Everybody can't be a head coach, have success, win a championship, being a head coach, and then all of a sudden go back to being an assistant.

40:51Chad Johnson:Yeah.

40:56Shannon Sharpe:You got to realize who James Harden was. I don't think y 'all realize that. Y 'all just looking at him as a guy. He was not a guy. He was the guy. He ain't a regular.

41:05Chad Johnson:Yeah.

41:07Shannon Sharpe:So now you're going to ask him, you're going to like, hold on. You're going to like, hold on. You macro managing me now?

41:12Chad Johnson:Come on, bro.

41:13Shannon Sharpe:A top 75 player, a many-time scoring champion. We get all that. A top 75 player.

41:18Chad Johnson:We get all that. Hey, hey, hey. We got to pull the reins back a little bit, though. You know, you want to, hey, hey. You about to be 37. You want to play until you 40? Hey, man, you're going to have to live with this 16 to 18 points a night, high efficiency rate. You know, we bring in some help. But, man, you can't keep going in season after season as he keep aging, thinking, oh, yeah, well, he's going to be back at 25, 27 points a night. That ain't happening, bro. No. No.

41:49Shannon Sharpe:But the Knicks. Now let's get to the Knicks. Hey. Let's go. I told you. Huh? I mean. I told you. They, the Cav 20 points, that's the most in the playoff run. Jalen Brunson wins Eastern Conference Finals MVP. Walt Frazier presented him the Larry Bird Trophy. Brunson took$113 million pay cut in the summer 2024. The Knicks used that cap space to add Cat, Mikael Bridges, and extend OG and Danube. and now they are a legit championship contending team. Brunson all-time gamble paid off. The New York Knicks are headed to the NBA Finals. The Knicks have won their closeout games this postseason by an average of 39.3.

42:37Shannon Sharpe:That is the greatest margin in NBA history. The last time the Knicks were in the Finals, Jalen Brunson was two. OG Ananobi was one. Josh Hart was four. Carl Anthony Towns was three. Mikael Bridges was two. That's crazy. So they don't know nothing about the next bid to the finals. Somebody had to tell them.

43:11Chad Johnson:They don't remember nothing. Hey, can you imagine somebody coming on your front porch, knocking on your door, say, hey, Ocho, come outside. I got this ass whooping lined up for you. They come on your front porch. What you going to do? Boy, you going to fight like hell on your front porch, AJ Man. Yeah. Every dog fight harder than his own yard. You know that, Joe. Look. That too. Hold on. Hey, what make it even worse, Joe, is think about if it's in today's society, if in today's area, somebody come on your porch. And you know people like that, you know what they got ready too? They got those cameras out.

43:44Chad Johnson:Mm-hmm. Oh, wait, I'm going to go viral? Oh, I'm fighting for my life. I'm fighting for my life. And what you don't want to hear - What do they tell you, Ocho? You know what else? You know what you don't want to hear in the background, you don't want to hear nobody scream, Worldstar.

44:01Shannon Sharpe:Oh, hell no. But I'm fighting for my life. Hey, when somebody come to your home and they start to get getting crazy, what do you tell them? Man, don't disrespect my house now. Don't disrespect me in my house. You let them mofos come to your house and disrespect you. Go use the bathroom. Don't flush. Put their feet up on it. Come on, little bitch. Come on, now. Hey, they don't spray. They don't do no spray. They don't do nothing. Got their shoes on. You done told them to take the shoes off at the door. They got their shoes on. And they walk across your grass to get in the house. Nah, hell nah, man.

44:43Shannon Sharpe:Man, this was embarrassing. But the Knicks, they got balance scoring. I mean, they had, what, six guys in double figures? Josh Hart was his Josh Hart. Only took five shots, but he had 11 rebounds, six assists, two steals, six points. OG, doing what OG does. Cat, Cat has been phenomenal this postseason. 19 points, another double-double, 19 points, 14 rebounds. Mikael Bridges. Mikael Bridges had his worst game to date. He finally looked human, Joe. Yeah. Hey. He finally looked human. 4-16. He was 6-6 for the free throw line. Brunson, 6-14, but they didn't need it. I mean, think about it. You got 18 minutes.

45:35Shannon Sharpe:Mitchell Robinson got 10 rebounds in 18 minutes. Josh Hart got 11 rebounds in 24 minutes. Cat got 14 in 26 minutes.

45:44Chad Johnson:Yeah, and Shaman just been balling.

45:47Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man, he been on the – man, he out his damn mind shooting three. What the hell? Hey, you were four for four for me.

45:54Chad Johnson:Hey, listen, he didn't even play in the first series against the Hawks, bro. He didn't touch the flow. I don't remember him even touching the flow getting in the game. Hey, man, the Knicks got a – they got a lot of guys outside of OG getting hurt, you know, in this playoffs with that hammy or whatever it was he had. they probably going to be the healthiest team in the finals bro if we just got to keep it 100 yes you know what I'm going to say too Joe you know what's a good thing for the Knicks too is the fact that they got that boxing match going on I'm talking about they ain't no regular I'm talking about a boxing match they beating each other up right and why they beating each other up hey nah we get the rest up we get to relax I say so the Knicks are at an advantage especially once this series does start because whoever they're playing, whether it's the Spurs or whether it's the Thunder, they're going to be beat the hell up.

46:51Shannon Sharpe:Based on what I've seen with the Knicks, what we thought would be a foregone conclusion, the Western Conference winner, I ain't so sure anymore, Joe. The Knicks play like this. If the Knicks play like they played, the last 10, 11 ball games, they can beat anybody in the West. That includes the Thunder or the Spurs. If they play like they played the last 11 games.

47:16Chad Johnson:Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Ocho. Now, hey, hey, hey, hey. The game just went out, so I'm going to kind of say, y 'all, prisoners of the moment, right? Nah, Joe. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Listen, listen. Prisoner of the moment, Joe. I had the Knicks win the finals, period. What you talking about? Prisoner of the moment. Yeah, I think you're going to be wrong. I think because Cleveland does not have any perimeter defense at all. to guard nothing. Can't guard none of them boys. Them two teams over in the Western Conference, they gonna guard, bro. But let me ask you a question.

47:52Chad Johnson:Could Atlanta guard? Semi. That's what.

47:55Shannon Sharpe:Did Philly have decent perimeter guys? Semi.

47:57Chad Johnson:That's why we won two games.

48:00Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. So, and think about it. Those two teams out there, they can defend. And guess what? It's 2-2. And can the Knicks defend? Yeah. Yeah.

48:11Chad Johnson:Brunson, I mean, he... Brunson liability on defense now. Yes. But he going to light somebody ass up on offense. I just think... Light him up. I think that's... I ain't saying he ain't going to play well for us, but I don't think it's going to be easy for him like it was this series. I mean... Who said that last series, Joe? Who they played? Philly? Yeah. Hey, Ocho, damn, he went to college in Philly. That's like going home. He felt good. He felt good. in Philly, hell. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Philly, Philly ain't put up no damn resistance here. Man, we ain't talking about that. Listen. And you talk about both teams gonna be banged up, Joe.

48:53Chad Johnson:Yeah, they gonna be banged up, but they still gonna have some guys who can go. Listen, if they play the Spurs, hey, I'm gonna be real with you. The Knicks might not win a game. Oh, here we go. I'm gonna keep it.

49:10Shannon Sharpe:I'm not saying the Knicks gonna win but I'm saying I believe based on what I've seen Joe man and do you know what happens Joe when you play with the confidence they believe they believe Mike Brown give Mike Brown credit he's got them playing on the string they playing complimentary basketball they rebound the basketball about at an elite level. Hey, Uncle Joe, as great as the Spurs are, Castle and Vassell being able to sit in that chair and play defense. Obviously, that goddamn alien Wimby. As great as the Thunder are, especially defensively, being able to do it by committee, especially probably having the deepest bench, I still got the Knicks winning for some reason.

50:00For some reason, I think this is the Knicks year, which is why I continue to pick the Knicks since the playoff started. Every time, and I've been right. Joe and the fact that I've been right the entirety of the playoffs and the fact that you still are going against the grain yet again, Joe Johnson, you know, I mean, it's beyond despite despite your knowledge.

50:21Chad Johnson:Listen, I love the energy and effort that the Knicks play with. I love seeing Bridges and Hart and OG, them guys out there guarding, they butt off picking up full court. They made it tough as hell on Donovan and James this whole series. But guess what? Them teams in that West, they going to match their energy, partner. You know what I mean? I'm talking about picking up full court, making you uncomfortable. Like the Cavs weren't doing nothing. they picking their man up at half court while the Knicks was dogging them the whole game. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be a different story, bro.

50:57Chad Johnson:I'm telling you, it's going to be a different story in the finals. Kudos to the Knicks for making it. It's going to be great for basketball. I'm sure New York City is going crazy right now, but this thing ain't going to be as sweet as y 'all think, no. Hey, Joe, we didn't say it was going to be sweet. I'm just telling you, you bases off, I'm not going to say analytics but you're using common sense and logic you're using basketball knowledge and the fact that you're using basketball knowledge that's why you've been wrong the whole time that's what I'm trying to tell you

51:31Shannon Sharpe:the Knicks are going to shock the world the Knicks did beat the Spurs in the cup, the NBA cup the Knicks beat them now last year we saw Indiana take them seven games now do we believe Indiana is that much better than the Knicks are this year? Or was it just a magical run? A magical run. Could have been a magical run. Because I think Mike Brown has said, hold on. They're not unbeatable. They play defense. Look, you got OG that can defend. Mikael Bridges is going to probably start on Shea. He's a long, wiry, rangy guy. Quick feet. Heart, hey, heart on Hartenstein. He like, Like, hey, man, I just guarded Evan Mobley.

52:20Shannon Sharpe:He has better offensive game. Now, he might not hustle. He's going to do a great job, but I can tell you this, Josh Hart hustled too. He understands that he's playing a guy that just has a motor just like he does.

52:32Chad Johnson:But I'm out working. Hey, the difference is I don't think them guys can stop Shea from getting to his spots, and they ain't got no damn Wimby back there. No, you're right.

52:43Shannon Sharpe:You're right about that now.

52:44Chad Johnson:They ain't got no damn Wimby back there. So now they can get back to regular scheduled programming. Now we can get in here and shoot our normal shots, our pull-ups, our floaters getting into the lane. Filetting all.

53:00So now you just totally disrespecting the Knicks now. That's basically what you're saying. I ain't disrespecting the Knicks, bro. That's the way you're saying it. You're talking about – hold on. Hold on. You're saying, okay, we done got past the Spurs or the Thunder got past the Spurs or the Spurs get past the Thunder not because they play in the Knicks. Now they get back to their regics at the program. So you're just saying they chop liver.

53:19Chad Johnson:The Thunder get back. Now, I'm saying that the Spurs has something nobody else has here.

53:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you're right. I mean, Wimby is a cheat code. Yeah, whatever you want to call it. But I'm telling you, man, Brunson's going to get to his spot too. now you know he can draw some files too now with that lefty that herky-jerky motion jojo yeah yeah

53:48Chad Johnson:hey hey they call him big body brunson for a reason you know how to use that body to create

53:53Shannon Sharpe:some space now you can do that with the best of them and you hey he'll put that shoulder into your leg just like shea yeah create that separation and the thing is he left-handed man you know them lefty they crafty for the fourth year in a row the eastern conference champion had lost in the Eastern Conference the year before. The Knicks in 2026, they lost to the Pacers last year. In 25, they lost in 24. The Celtics lost in 23 and the Heat lost in 22. So, I guess Cleveland, y 'all next. Not. Hey.

54:38Chad Johnson:Hey, Brown go back to Cleveland. You're going to be rooting for Cleveland, bro. I'll be rooting for Brown. You're going to have to root for Cleveland.

54:47Shannon Sharpe:I'll go today. I guess I'll have to, you know, pull my old land, my land, a Brown jersey out, my T-shirt.

54:57Shannon Sharpe:But this is embarrassing. It was, bro. And look, I'm happy for Mike Brown, you know, that he got an opportunity. I don't know why they fired that man in Sacramento I don't I don't know Joe I don't know and I don't know Doug Christie but I know he played for the organization but it seemed like they were not better under Doug Christie than they were Mike Brown and Mike Brown had just took them to the playoffs as a matter of fact didn't they go like seven games and ended up losing to Steph when Steph had that historic that great game seven.

55:36Chad Johnson:Oh, you're talking about Sacramento when they had D. Fox and Sabonis now. Yeah.

55:41Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I mean, think about it. D. Fox wanted to leave Sabonis. Sabonis has been hurt lately. I don't know what they got going on over there. I don't either. I don't. I don't either.

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59:23Shannon Sharpe:Donovan Mitchell going off on the Cavs in the second quarter down by 20. Let's look at the video.

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59:57Chad Johnson:AD Hey, Mitch, if you see this, bruh, don't even sweat it, man. You and Coco Jones, man. Y 'all gone, gone. Y 'all nice vacation. You know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, hey. You came to play tonight. I don't know what the hell the mother boy was doing, though. Me did. Hey, he was snapping on that sideline, boy. Not enough. Too late. They were down 20 in the second quarter, fellas, at home. Boy, hey, they were packed up.

1:00:26Shannon Sharpe:Once, you know, they got out to that great start, Donovan hit a couple of threes, you know, got to the basket, did the swipe over the top. Once the Knicks weathered that two minutes and they go on their own 12-0 run. It was a wrap. You ain't seen up a tail light. They kicked up a duck, kicked up a duck up in your eyes.

1:00:48Chad Johnson:It seemed like.

1:00:50Shannon Sharpe:And that's, look. I got to do that. I'm just saying, man. These guys, man, I don't know, man. It don't seem like losing hurt people enough anymore. Man, I'm telling you, man, that ish bothered me. Man, we lose. I couldn't sleep.

1:01:07Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:01:09Shannon Sharpe:I'm playing all the plays. Man, damn, I could have did this. I'm playing all this ish in my mind. It don't hurt enough people to lose. So it tells me if it don't hurt you enough to lose, you ain't put a dumb enough into it. because I promise you, somebody lose money. It hurt them, don't it, don't you? Ocho, you say, if I lose$25, you know why it hurt? Because you know how hard you work for that damn money.

1:01:33Chad Johnson:Yeah. Damn. You right, man. It's just, you know, when you at home, bro, in the postseason, and then got this far Eastern Conference Finals, and then come out there and just get a fence, that piss poor effort, bro, I couldn't believe it. I ain't going to lie to you. I'm talking about to start the game, I couldn't believe it. You know, the Knicks just was – I'm talking about scoring their will, and then it seems like once the Cavs get down, their comeback game ain't about nothing. They crack. Yep. They crack. Yeah, their comeback game ain't about nothing. It's like everybody just start – like, oh, what's going on?

1:02:16Shannon Sharpe:Everybody start trying to go one-on-one. Everybody's like, well, hey, we already down 10-15. Hell, let me get my shot. When them damn turnovers started happening, next thing you know, you're down 30. Exactly. Out there getting run outs. Alvarado, come in and get a run out. Bunch of cops steal the ball, get a run out. I say, man, shh.

1:02:38Chad Johnson:Nick's partying right now as we speak.

1:02:40Shannon Sharpe:Can you imagine what New York like? Oh, my God. Because they had the police all lined up. Because they already.

1:02:48Chad Johnson:Yeah. They getting ready, they know. Check them out. Golly. Yeah, man.

1:02:58Shannon Sharpe:They know. The Knicks, what they should have did, Joe, is charge 10 people to come into the game and watch the game on the big screen at MSG.

1:03:07Chad Johnson:Yeah, they could have made a little money for that. They'd have packed it out. Yeah! They probably had something going on up there. I like that. That's dope. that's dope hey when they when they when they win the finals yeah i'm going i'm going to new york to celebrate with the boys because oh how you going to celebrate hey because i hey i picked them boys since the playoffs started everybody laughing at me joe he every time i pick the dick joe go opposite of me and he talking about why they gonna lose hey hey hey and here we go again you know you know the finals coming up he's still picking whether it's the spurs or the thunder he's still picking against the goddamn knicks he learned a lesson hey listen don't get your ass trampled down there man going yeah it'd be like jr don't get that well now i'm gonna be good i think i blend it i blend in so well they won't even know what's going on and put on a new york hat you know put on a nice little jersey.

1:04:07Dang on.

1:04:12Shannon Sharpe:That is dope. Well, I tell you what. When we win the Super Bowl, I'm definitely going to celebrate.

1:04:18Chad Johnson:Well, who win?

1:04:22Shannon Sharpe:Ah, damn. Joao? Hey, I was going to say that. Who are you talking about? Don't you say a word. Hold on, hold on. You said when you win the Super Bowl. He's talking about the Ravens. He's got to be talking about the Ravens. It don't matter. I got two teams. No, you don't. You got one team. Who a team? Your team is pro. Joe, why you do that, man? You played for the Ravens for one week. You used to at least talk about that one. Hey, hey, hey.

1:04:47Chad Johnson:And he's slick, too, because it depends on who win that day. That's who he going for. I don't read the people's game. I see what he got going on.

1:04:55Shannon Sharpe:I mean, I got two teams, Joe. I mean, I won with both teams, man. I mean, what you want me to do, Joe? You want me to renounce my... I mean, look here. I'm a guy that got dual citizenship. I mean, you know, sometimes you could be born in a place and get American citizenship, and you got Nigerian citizenship, and you got—I got dual citizenship.

1:05:12Chad Johnson:That's two hell of a team to have, boy.

1:05:16Shannon Sharpe:I'm sorry, Ocho. Your team, the Guppies and the Bungles, I'm sorry. Don't worry about it. You already know the Guppies. You ain't going to be celebrating nothing in Miami. The Guppies going to be pissed. He ain't even going to go to no games this year. I don't blame him. Hey, listen, honestly, if you look at the league in itself, there may be eight teams out of the 32, right? There are eight teams that are competing to lift that Lombardi. Everybody else is just trying to make as much money as they can this season. I'm just being honest. That's what it comes down to because you know your team is not constructed to compete at the highest level to even think about the goddamn playoffs or raising that damn trophy.

1:06:03Shannon Sharpe:you're just not I mean you can't have two teams yeah I can let's just say for the sake of argument Ocho I go to undergrad I get my degree undergrad at Harvard yes sir but I get my post grad from Yale so what am I supposed to do wherever you started first huh so so what did Yale? Yale got my money too yeah but it doesn't I understand that part but wherever you start that journey that is always your team you do realize in order you have to start a new journey if you get a postgraduate degree also right you can really understand that but where your journey first starts when you're thinking about getting that degree is the one you always latch on to that's just the way it goes no they don't go like that you can't make up your own rules huh yes the first team you played for that is your team now if you just know that it is i i support the broncos when the record as long as If the Ravens don't play the Broncos, I'm rooting for the Ravens.

1:07:02Shannon Sharpe:Okay, all right.

1:07:04Chad Johnson:Oh yeah, he's slick with it now.

1:07:08Shannon Sharpe:Ain't no slick, Ocho, I mean Joe Adeo. Real slick with it boy. Yeah, you real, you real, flip floppy. So let me ask you a question. You win a championship with Phoenix, but you have your best year. So let's just say for the sake of argument, that year that you got hurt, y 'all win the championship, but you go on to play with Atlanta. What you doing? What you mean what I'm doing? Hey, what you doing? So you not going back, so when the Phoenix, you not going to celebrate that championship? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So are you a Phoenix Sun or you an Atlanta Hawk? Cause you got the name ISO with the Hawks.

1:07:44Shannon Sharpe:So what you doing? I'm running with both. I'm running with both.

1:07:49Chad Johnson:Oh, champ, y 'all hear what this man say. This man told me he's running with both. I'm saying, I'm going to cheer for both. You know what I mean? i'm a cheerful both i'm a cheerful bowl but i see i don't see i've seen some of the moves you to made though i know how you moving out here you know what i mean i see i seen the broncos go down and the ravens winning you all raven i seen the ravens play bad they doing all them damn fumbles and all that he act like he don't know nothing about the raven no more hey flip floppy here you There you go. See what I'm talking about? Hey Joe, when they come in the Bengals, win or loss, I'm right there.

1:08:26I'm right there.

1:08:27Shannon Sharpe:No, no, ain't a whole lot of wins going on. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, I don't piggyback on, I don't piggyback on the winning this success. I don't piggyback on none of that. Yeah, bottom one. BMO, y 'all see that right there? Yeah. Do they say, hey, the Bengals see y 'all, see you stuff like this at home, Joe? Hey, I got a key to the building, man. Don't play at me. I got a key to the building. You hear me? I got the code to steal, get in the locker room. This is my key right here, Joe. Well. Hey, how you doing, Shannon?

1:09:01Shannon Sharpe:Hey, remember you in high school, how you took your senior picture on Joe? You hold that helmet like that right here. Oh yeah. Shannon Sharp, senior. Tight end.

1:09:13Chad Johnson:Check it out, check it out.

1:09:15Shannon Sharpe:Or you at homecoming, You hold that bag up in front of y 'all like this here, Joe. Oh, Joe. I can't wait to football. I can't wait to football season. I can't believe you. I can't wait to football season, bro. You should be able to wait. Cowboys, baby. I already know y 'all going to be some stir fry.

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