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25:03Shannon Sharpe:But you had your tail between your legs on that game. No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. But listen, I don't mean to jump off topic. If Joe Burrow wasn't hurt, you know the Bengals would be 6-2. We'd be 6-2. Name the season. How many seasons have you said that since he's been in the league you use that if joe burrow wasn't hurt you've used that more than man wait wait a minute what you want me to do about that i can't i can't i'm not in control of him you know getting injured or being healthy i'm just saying that's what happened he was healthy full time i'm telling you where we would be at but it's more it's more probable than not there's a greater probability that he gets hurt based on his tenure in the nfl than him not.

25:52Shannon Sharpe:Am I correct? Yes or no? Think about it. He missed basically his whole rookie season torn a knee. He missed what last year, a year before last with a wrist. Now he's going to miss the better part of this season with a foot, with a toe. A toe? So this has kind of been his MO since he's been in the league. I got you. I got you. But listen, get the injuries out the way early in your career. Get the injuries out the way early in the career and we'll probably win the Super Bowl next year. Hold on, Ocho. How are you going to get the injuries out when it's that offensive line? What got him hurt? What got him hurt his rookie year?

26:30Shannon Sharpe:Offensive line was terrible. What happened in the game? Tweaked the offensive line. His toe got tackled from flushed out of the pocket. Offensive line. So, I mean, y 'all got a new one coming in I don't know about? No, we don't. But everybody can't have the – matter of fact, everybody can't have the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line, huh? Everybody can't have the goddamn – Y 'all just don't need to have the bad news bears. You're playing hell out of the water. Okay, just don't have the bad news bears or the replacement offensive line. If you don't have that, you'll be fine. You're not saying that, man.

27:01But also, let me say this. Hey, Joe, let me say this too. Go ahead. Also, on Joe Burrow, boy, you got to get the ball out of your hand, baby. You have to get the ball out your hands. You know, waiting to scramble because you're very good at extending plays. We know you got a little Michael Vick in you. not as fast but he can maneuver the pocket i say you're not you got a little no don't vick in you when it comes let me finish let me finish i just said not as fast but his ability to maneuver in the pocket and manipulate it and extend plays is second to none but he don't got no speed that's all you talking about joe burrow oh yeah hey hey joe he could extend the play like a mother you know i know he can't i like joe he a bad boy yeah yeah that's the problem he hold on to

27:44Shannon Sharpe:the ball just a tad bit based on his offensive line of course he holds on to the ball too long but you got to let the plays develop and a lot of times don't show he's thinking like oh yeah we protected here or you have a breakdown there somebody didn't slide the right way somebody didn't get over far enough the back didn't do didn't do a good enough job of chipping on his way out there's a lot of things that play into a sack it's not always on the offensive line it's not always on the quarterback sometimes it's a combination and a lot of times it seems like and taking turns. Line doesn't do what it's supposed to.

28:16Shannon Sharpe:Joe doesn't get the ball out his hand fast enough. Running back doesn't chip or do his job good enough. And so it's just one after another, and it's a snowball effect that gets larger and larger. Just a small example before going to the next topic again. I want you to look at Joe Flacco. When Joe Flacco was played, he started three weeks. Look at him when he played against the Steelers. Got the ball out of his hand right away. Joe got sacked one time. Joe ain't get sacked to the fourth quarter waiting on a longer play to develop which was going downfield and that was the only reason TJ Watt was able to get back there but outside of that every time Joe get that ball one two three boom it's out of there quick so even if the line is playing bad it somewhat looks a little different with Joe Flacco back there because he's getting rid of the goddamn ball fast as hell with his decision making now I'm not saying Joe Burr can't do that I'm just saying at times he needs to get rid of it very fast and get it out of the bit live to see another check this out oh joe joe the bears trolled the ravens posted this video on social media of bears players competing in games in the locker room and the facility are they playing pop a shot oh we had one of them you had a pop in the locker room now they're playing people look at the old show they're They're playing ping pong.

29:37Shannon Sharpe:They playing darts. In darts. Now they on the game. Man, hey, Vinti, Patti, yeah, we had a pop. Ocho, that was money. That was money, Ocho. Y 'all were gambling on pop a shot? Yes! Man, hey, we had ping pong tournaments. Yes! Oh yeah, we had ping pong back in my day too. Yeah, I'm talking about like, a couple people play before practice, couple people play after practice. Right, right. Man, look here. I know how you come. Hey, you come and put your per diem money down. Oh, we bet money. So, like, we get that money per diem, Ocho. You put that thing down. And we shoot. Two people make it. It go back.

30:22Shannon Sharpe:You might have 10 people up there. If only one make it, you get all them per diems. Oh, for real? Okay, I like that. I like that. So, we get, like, we get, like, workout checks. So, you know, in the OTAs, Ocho, you get a workout check. It's probably like$250,$300. So, I go upstairs. I get my check. I bet, hey, bet the check. Because that's what everybody would do. Bet the check. Don't even look at it, Joe. Just bet the check. All right. You know, we shooting. Okay. I'm like, damn. Maybe we got to go. Hey, we'll finish this up. Leave the checks right there in the locker room. So, we come back. I make mine.

30:57Shannon Sharpe:Two dudes missed theirs. It was me and Burns. I think it was me and Burns and House. I think it's me burning the house. But anyway, we were shooting. I opened the check, it like 350. My check was$70 ,000. They had owed me from last year some money. Okay, okay, okay. So you got lucky. I got lucky. You didn't know? I didn't know, cause I didn't open the check. See the thing here, Joe, you can't open it. You gotta shoot it blind.

31:27Shannon Sharpe:I don't know about that one. Oh, that's how we gotta do it, Joe. You gotta shoot that thing blind. Because see, if you know what's in there, you ain't gonna do it. I want you, hey, just put it on, just put it in right there. Put it right there. Y 'all play cards? Joe, y 'all play cards? What y 'all play? In between, Bure? We play Bure, in between, guts. Yeah. Ain't nothing nice playing them games, man. Hold on, no spades? Well, it's hard to play spades. We don't really play spades for money. We play a space for pride. Okay. Hey, Ocho. Yeah. It might be a sensitive subject right now, but them boys love to gamble, man.

32:09Shannon Sharpe:Oh, for sure. You hear me? Hey, hold on. Listen. Hey, Joe, that's everywhere. Yeah. That's everywhere. I mean, obviously, they made it legal, which is kind of weird. How do you make it legal? And then all of a sudden, you're surprised that people are actually gambling now. But you do know right from wrong. So, I mean, it's like - But you know what they're getting them on. They're going to fix it. So if you're a player, you can't bet on the props. It's the prop bets that's getting them. It's not the win or lose the game. It's over under the minutes. It's over under the shot attempts. It's all the, it's those kind of stuff.

32:44Shannon Sharpe:It's the injury report, Joe. Man, you know, hey, man, you know, Joe. Hi, Joe. Man, Joe wasn't even at shoot around. Joe ain't playing today. Now, that information is going to come public at about three hours, but it's not public now. So they're getting a head start on the info. So that's what the NBA is trying to nip in the bud. They're trying to get like, oh, we've got to do a better job of curtailing the injury report. That's why they make the injury reports public, Ocho. Because just imagine if they weren't public, but only a handful of people know anyway. man listen oh cho in 2020 i played in the tbt that's the uh that's the uh the basketball league for like two million dollars million and i played on the team and uh it was during covid so they had us locked in this uh hotel in ohio so the night before the game my homeboy who was here in atlanta he called me the night before the game he said hey man they uh they got you they got you what you think, over or under 18 points for you tomorrow.

33:53Shannon Sharpe:I hung up on you. I hung up on you. Don't call me. Listen, listen, listen. Don't call me without a lad. You know what I mean? I don't know who on the other end. Yeah, right. And I don't want to go into the game with no preconceived notion that I got to get 25 points. Just let me through. You know what I mean? So I can see where some of these dudes, homeboys hitting them and telling them, hey, man. Yeah, you be thinking about it. Man, I ain't practice all week. Man, I ain't playing. They got that thing as questionable. Bro, I ain't playing. Man, he's just saying. He ain't playing. But that gambling, you got to gamble with people that you know because gambling, I don't see a lot of fights break out about that money.

34:34Hey, hold on. Whoa, wait a minute. Wait a minute. You heard the first thing you said, which is obviously a lie. You got to gamble with people you know because I done seen some of the best of friends fall out when it comes to money. Hell, I done seen family fall out when it comes to money.

34:48Shannon Sharpe:How about people that's gonna pay? That's because, hey, you start playing in between. Me and you both know one of them. That part of the in between to get up 25, 50, 100 ,000, like that. Ooh. Like that. I've been in a pot that got to be 35 ,000. We had a pot so high, we was like, hey, man, just forget it. Hey, everybody good. Hey, because ain't nobody want that, because I already know. Boy, you lose 100 ,000. How you gonna focus on the game? Hold on, listen, let me tell you. Who better, who better 100 ,000? The part got up, like, the way you play, Ocho, let's just say we playing cards. Okay, an ace come, you gotta call it high or low, and then the next card.

35:31Shannon Sharpe:So if I get an ace, I'm gonna say high. The next card come, let's just say it's a five. I say pot it. As long as the card comes in between that, long as it comes six, king, I'm good. If it comes on the edges, which is another ace or another five, you gotta double what's in the pot. So if the pot is 10 ,000, you gotta double it to 20 ,000. Now the pot's 30 ,000. You see what happens like that? They in between, see it. Going to the Super Bowl. Me and Burn, we all play, we have this a good old time. The pot is probably got to like 8 ,000. Then they got to like 10. Burn said, here, I'm selling my cards.

36:14Shannon Sharpe:I said, hey, so he said, man, he said, homeboy, he said, I love you. He said, but I can't go home and tell Michelle I lost this. It was a king. It was a five. King five. I'm like, damn. I said, what you want to do, homeboy? He said, man, I'm selling these cars. I said, don't worry about it. I got you covered. I said, I got it covered. I said, what we going to do? I said, if we lose, I'll put the money on it. Right. If we win, I'll split it. you i wouldn't do that with anybody else now right right right it is all my oh you what what about me you wouldn't do that with me you first of all your ass wasn't even in the league you was in college in 98 where were you at in 98 98 well i was a junior in haskell no i was a sophomore in a college So it was a king and it was a five.

37:12Shannon Sharpe:I was like, I said, hey, homeboy, let's just pot it. Now the pot's like 10. If we get hit on the edge, if a king or a five come, Ocho, we got to double the pot. Now if it comes a four or an ace, we just have to match the pot. Right. That thing came six. Ooh. Guy didn't have enough money to put it up, so he had to put Super Bowl tickets up. because we'd go into the Super Bowl because you know how long it'd take you to get from Denver to Miami so a lot of money changed hands. Oh yeah. Man, listen. Hey Joe, hey Joe, I know you got some good gambling stories. You ain't got to put no name on it though.

37:50Man, listen,

37:51Shannon Sharpe:when I was playing here in Atlanta, me, Josh Smith, Mike Bibby, Big Jason Collins, like we used to gamble Ocho and like, when you get off the plane, if you won$7 ,000 or eight thousand dollars that was pretty good day right i mean boy when i got to houston playing with james harden cp and pj tucker and they getting off to playing on each other 140 000 i said i ain't playing with y 'all wait whoa whoa whoa i just used to watch i used to watch i ain't never used to play with them hold on joe you not finna say that like that like it's normal on on how much yeah 140 000 170 000 80 000. you talking about in bitcoin or american dollars with bitcoin back then that my young hey i i i heard stories like guys you had to come to the you had to come to the table with a hundred 150 200 000 in cash just to sit at the table and if you're like gambling you couldn't sit in you're like nah bro you got to go yeah nah i'm just here with such and such that ain't got nothing to do with me yeah oh choker look you're gonna come to the table with that little 2 ,500.

38:58Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah. You try, yeah. Bang will let you do it. That's going to last you two rounds, homeboy. You're going to be out of that. That's how most people, that's how most big heavyweights gamble is that you got to come with X amount of dollars. You got to come with 50, 100, 200, a quarter of a million dollars in cash just to get in and sit in the room because you're not going to be no bystander. They don't need no cheerleader. They don't need none of that. Right, right. But this all athletes, though. It ain't like no homeboys. It ain't none of that. This is all athletes. Man, Oak love to gamble like that.

39:35Shannon Sharpe:Big Oak. Yeah, Oak Tree. But I know another guy that like to gamble like that and tell me, yeah, you know, we stand at such and such. I said, ain't got nothing to do with me. The man that do right here, I said, bro, I said, you're not finna get my house. I'm sorry, bro. I'm good. I'm good. I don't want to say, guess what? I took 50K. I took a... No, no, no. Because he got that kind of money that every time you play, you nervous. Because you know you can't put him under the gun. You can't put him at risk. See, the whole thing is to put something... When you're playing with cash money and it's right there on the table, the whole thing is to put the guy at risk.

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45:09Shannon Sharpe:Our special guest joining us. He just signed with the Broncos, playing in his 20th season, played a grand total of 285 career games. from playing University of California at Los Angeles, a.k.a. UCLA. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Marcedes Lewis. What's up, brother? I'm good, man. How you doing, bro? I'm doing well, man. Just everything happened so fast. It was like, obviously, I played 19 last year. I didn't get picked up for camp. Didn't do OTAs. this was the first time I hadn't been in camp. So it was a mental, it was messing with me mentally for a second because it's something that I've been used to.

45:56And I'm one of those that I love camp. I love building that gristle and getting ready for the season. And so when I didn't get picked up, it was like, okay, you know, how do I want to go about this? And so I just was kind of more introspective about it and just kind of was in a state of allowing, meaning like not resisting nor forcing what was meant for me I come back from Joshua Tree I go to a place where I recover at get in the sauna I get a call from a Denver number and obviously I didn't answer it because I didn't have it I'm thinking it's spam I'm like man what is this so the number calls back probably like three minutes later and I'm like I still look at my phone didn't answer it and then the GM left a message like yo big dog give me a call this is George Payton GM at the Broncos want to talk to you for a second so i called him back and literally right there and this was monday he was like yo can you fly out here uh tonight and i was like mind you i've never been in this situation before like i've always been contracted so it was just different feeling this you know feeling this right and so yeah i'm like you know what yeah i could fly out there so i hopped on the flight like around eight got got to denver like around 11 30 at night sat on the tarmac for like 50 minutes then went to the hotel and then literally next day Tuesday worked out, took my physical and signed on the spot so it's definitely a different experience.

47:26Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you tell them hell yeah, you buy, I fly Come on now You tell them when I fly, hell yeah you buy, I fly Mercedes was it ever the thought in your mind that you would be able to but one, making it into the league is one thing. You want to play, you want to have a healthy career, you want to squeeze in as many years as you can, obviously. But did you ever think you'd get to year 20? Man, I thought, you know, obviously coming out of UCLA, that 10 was going to be a great career. And, you know, and it was a situation where, I'm not sure you're familiar with John Embry. He was my tight end coach at UCLA.

48:03Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he was in camp with me my rookie year in 1990. Okay, okay. so you know embo you know his uh i do his energy and just the type of person he is so uh obviously embo you know he coach toning his eyes george kittle for a little while remember um um daniel graham yeah so as far as like that his resume is dipped in blood when it comes to like tight ends and how he's able to get across to those guys and you know 100 and um i remember I would say he got to UCLA my sophomore year, then fired the tight end coach we had. He got to UCLA and the first conversation we had, he was like, look, I didn't come to UCLA to coach for UCLA.

48:48He said, I came to UCLA to coach you. Gave me a whole rundown of like my family knew where I was from. I'm from the East side of Long Beach. My mom had me at 15 years old. I've been through just a whole bunch. So he had already done his homework. And that kind of, you know, lit a fire into me. And so right after that, that formed a connection and just like that vibration that we had. And literally he took me from, he said, look, this is where you are now. You got the ability to go through here. He was like, there's a lot of people that can catch the ball and run and look pretty. We know that you're at, you're at league.

49:23Cool. We get it. You want to play a long time in the league. You're going to have to learn how to get your nose dirty. And it starts right here. and so he literally took me from you know just being able to catch a pass and do nice things with it to like really being a dog and and with it to being a dog and so i learned how to compete under him and so by the time i got to the league this is my rookie year i get drafted in 2006 um freddy t fred taylor took me under his wing hey yeah and fred taylor he called me slim like at that time i was i was 6 '6 like 260 but i didn't have the mass right so he just i always just caught me slim so one the first day of pads we got the oklahoma drill right so this is like my first oklahoma drill in the nfl we get three dns uh freddy t's running behind me twice and then maurice drew is running behind me i pancaked the first two guys moved a third guy out the way freddy t jumped on my back kind of like wrestled me almost to the grass and was like yo you keep blocking like that you're gonna be in the league for a long time so yeah fast forward to when i signed my contract this morning freddy t text me and was like you remember that conversation we had i was like bro how could i ever forget that that's something that i always have with me and it's something that's inspired me this whole entire time so i'm just grateful to you know he didn't have to take me into his wing he played running back like it was it's just been it's been smooth man and i just take it one day at a time and you know just get my personal best or whatever it is I'm doing in that day, and I live with the results.

50:57Shannon Sharpe:You mentioned Mercedes, but bro, that's still a long time. To get your body to go through the rigors, look, we know that, you know, situational now, but still, you got to come in there, and it ain't Jacksonville where you got nice warm weather. You're in Chicago, bro. Outside. You're having to go, and you're the Green Bay. Outside. So we get it. So once you got past year 10, as you mentioned, I can get 10. Then you get to 15. Because once you get to 10, you take it one year at a time. 100%. Once you got to 15, you had to be like, hold on. Gonzalez played 17. Witten played 17. The way I feel right now, 17 is in the bag.

51:43Shannon Sharpe:Was there ever a realistic shot once you got past 15 that 20 would be in the equation? Bro, you just hit it on the nose. And like this conversation is something that I have pretty often with people because they ask me like, how did you like, like what in your mind made you think that you can just keep going and keep jumping up to continue your career? 15 was literally that magic number. Once I got, once I passed 10, I got to 15 and I was like, okay, I don't want to question it because I don't want to jinx myself, but I still feel really good. Right. And so I get to 15, I'm in Green Bay, and literally Green Bay is like, well, we want to sign you to a two-year deal.

52:25Because I was only doing one-year deals trying to just play it by ear.

52:28Shannon Sharpe:Yep. And at that time in Green Bay, obviously we had Jimmy Graham. He had signed the contract. He was there for a couple years. Then he ended up leaving. And then I ended up being the full-time why. So I was the why, which means the do-it-all tight end for the listeners out there. and then we had obviously the pass catching tight end at that time Robert Telly. So I was doing all the dirty work, outside zone, power, ISO, all that. You got to set that edge, Marcetti. You got to set that edge. Come on, man. I was sifting. I was doing all that. And so I didn't expect them to offer me a two-year deal.

53:05I thought it was going to be one year, one year. But when they offered me a two-year deal, I felt like it was my responsibility to go out there and continue to give them what they know that I'm about. And I signed a deal, didn't look back, got through 17, still felt really good. A-Rod ends up leaving. Devontae ends up leaving. Cobb retires. Dave Batiari leaves. And I'm like, okay, it's only me here. I know it's about to be my time to go, too. So they hit me up like, hey, Sadie's like, you know, we're kind of changing the regime. Like, you know, you know, the target. So I'm like, all right, like, no doubt, whatever.

53:42like you know i'll figure it out and then not too long after that i would say june chicago hit me up and then we had had luke getsey who was the quarterback coach with uh green bay and was familiar with you know how to use me as far as in play you know plays and what i'm good at and brought me to chicago thinking that was going to be a one-year deal played that out still played about 43 percent of the plays at 39 years old so i'm still rolling then the next year bring me back. So that's two years. And then here we are now. It was just like once I got 18, I was like I have to get 20.

54:21Shannon Sharpe:I can't end on an odd number. I gotta get 20. I literally it was like the capstone. 20 is like when I wake up in the morning. That's the magic number in the NFL. Ain't a whole lot of players that's ever played 20 seasons. You get a Jackie Slater and you get a Tom Brady and you get a handful of guys but maybe i don't think it's 20 guys maybe maybe it's 20 guys yeah 25 000 people men that's ever played this game darryl green it's like it ain't a whole lot of guys so let me ask you this is this it you trying for 21 or you done it 20 you're stopping on a nice a nice round even number okay so so this will be the first time i've ever said this because i haven't but this is it like if i said that last year like if i said that after 19 i wouldn't have felt like i did in these months that i was not playing right like bro i will wake up sometime like the season started it was a few teams hitting my agent up but it was like just is he still working out does he still want to play just a bunch of like fluff it wasn't nothing serious so i told my agent bus cook i told him i said look if it's not serious like don't hit me up because it's messing with my head like some days some days i'll wake up sharp and be like right i feel good and then some days i wake up and i feel like i'm in a nightmare because i'm waking up i'm watching ball there and i'm in my mind i'm like there's not 64 tight ends better than me in this league and i know i could be out there helping somebody win.

56:01Yeah. And like, especially for what I do at this point in my career, like, I'm the best at this. Right? Like, just point of contact, setting the edge, rock setting and play pass. Like, you know how it is. Like, it's... Oh, yeah, yeah. I take it serious.

56:15Shannon Sharpe:I'm gonna lock it, we sift this thing up, and we'll scoop it. Whatever you want to do. Hey, if y 'all want to play, let me be Gilligan, I get on that island. If I need to. Come on. And so... And that's kind of where I'm And, you know, today Sean Payton pulled me aside and was like, I've been watching you for the last eight years. Like even when I was in Green Bay, the Saints kept trying to get me when he was with the Saints. He was like, I just want you to know that I've been watching this for the last eight years. I know what you're about. Everybody talks about how you are as a person. Like I get it, but you're not staying in this league for as long as you have just for being a great leader.

56:53You've been dominant. We need somebody like you. and so they made me feel valued they made me feel welcome and to be honest with you guys today was the first time I felt like nervous because it was like I'm 41 I didn't do camp no OTAs what's my reaction time regardless if I'm working out

57:21Shannon Sharpe:you ain't playing football exactly the fan. And I really questioned myself. The night before, going to sign my contract and then going to practice, I'm in there and I'm like, they give me the playbook, all of that. I'm looking through and I'm like, okay, every hour that went by today, I felt more and more confident. I get in there and it's just like all my teammates are like, you know, just loving me up, bro. And I'm just like, damn, I'm like, this is where I'm supposed to be, you know? And it feels good. All right. Once I got on the field, bro, it was just like riding a bike. So I'm grateful for the moment.

58:04I've always been in gratitude. I leave with just gratitude, man.

58:08Shannon Sharpe:And it's special, bro. Joe, you had a question? That's what's up, man. Yeah, I wanted to say, first off, Mercedes, man, congrats on 20 years, bro. That's a long time, especially in the NFL. What's the biggest difference? What would you say the biggest difference is from like year one to like year 20 now? Whether it be mindset, training, obviously, you know, what would probably be the biggest difference? I think the biggest difference for me, bro, is the time I had to form a routine. Because when I first got into the league, right, like those first three years, you're trying to figure out who you are.

58:49Yeah. Like you, you know, you're athletic, you know that like you can do some things, but you don't know if you can consistently get it done at that level. right like you're playing against guys they got families that are not having it and when i got to jacksonville dogs in jacksonville like i was raised with the wolves in jacksonville you know what i mean and so i feel like being in that environment made like molded me into who i am today and i would say after year three i started to form this routine how like my in-season workout recovery does not change from my out of season workout and recovery and and mind you i said out of season and not off season i don't take it off right like i right it's maybe two and a half weeks of just letting my body heal and and that means infrared and cold tub i'm still doing something to keep the blood flow right yeah once it gets close to february like right after super bowl i've been trying to mix martial arts now for 15 years so So whether it's jiu-jitsu, Muay Thai, wrestling, judo, whatever it is, I would do that from February all the way to May.

59:59I do not step on the field until the end of May going into July. Once I hit the field in June, I get on the grass, straight ahead running. And then we do like 400 breakdowns on the track. And then that's really about it. I'll do like cone stuff, but not too many routes, even in my prime when I was catching the ball. It wasn't a lot of routes and like putting that pressure on my knees. and then when I would get to camp, I would be peaking at the perfect time. I really just feel like that regimen has paid me back right now because I still have my legs. I went to Jacksonville where we were run first, play action pass.

1:00:36Jimmy Smith was getting out of there. Keaton McCardell had just got out of there. It was like Freddie T, Maurice Drew. Obviously, we had Kyle Brady at tight end. I was backing him up as a rookie. then I end up starting as a second year guy. Exactly. And it was like, we ran the ball, bro, for at least four or five years straight. And I was still getting my numbers. You know, I went all pro, my fifth year, pro bowl, all of that. But not like I should have, right? And I would always be like, damn, man, like, was I supposed to get drafted here? Like, I came out of UCLA, Mackie Award winner, all the records, doing my thing.

1:01:12Like, I get to Jacksonville and I'm like, bro, I'm blocking ISO power. I'm doing you know what I mean like I'm not really being used like they drafted me in the first round so I didn't get it that's the best thing to happen for you Mercedes you didn't know it

1:01:25Shannon Sharpe:because had you put up those numbers early and now all of a sudden you in year 10 year 11 year 12 and they're not the same as they were in year 3 or 4 now all of a sudden they're going to say you losing it but because you didn't have 80 90 catches in the beginning they're like he's insane and what we're asking him to do hasn't change for what he's been asked to do the previous team right the previous 12 the previous 15 we looked it up marcedes there have only been one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen players to play at least 20 years or more most of them wow as you could imagine are kickers uh george blando played 26 seasons he was a quarterback but his last couple of years he was main look kicker morton anderson 25 kicker adam venateria 24 kicker tom brady 23 quarterback john carney 23 kicker gary anderson kicker jeff feagles 21 punter earl morrow played 21 as a quarterback jackie slater offensive lineman darryl green quarterback benny testa birdie quarterback brett farve quarterback jason hanson kicker and now marcedes lewis is on this list of guys that have played at least 20 seasons or more and you played a position.

1:02:47Shannon Sharpe:Now, Jackie, I would say Jackie might have had because Jackie had to bang every play for 20 years. Sometimes you got to run routes. 20 years is still crazy. Let me ask you this. Are you married, Mercedes? No. Because I was going to say, that's an awful long time to ask somebody that's like, hey, I need you to make these sacrifices for 20. I need you to pick up the kids. I need you to be the PTA. I need you to be the recitals and the football games and all that other stuff. So you understand the sacrifices that you make, but when you have a partner, you're also asking them to make said sacrifices.

1:03:28Shannon Sharpe:100%. Hey, Mercedes, what combo sports you do again? Jiu-Jitsu? Muay Thai, Jiu-Jitsu, a little bit of Judo, some wrestling. I don't really... I think that's you right there, Ocho. Hey, Ocho ready. Ocho say he won't do it with us. Ocho say, you know. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. But you know I got a black belt and all that. You got a round man too to hold your pants up. Mercedes, I think you, hey, that's what we want right here. Mercedes and Ocho.

1:03:56Hey, well, you know, I got a black belt. I got a black belt in jujitsu.

1:04:01Shannon Sharpe:I submit you pretty quick, bro. Wait, what? Yeah, you ready? Hey, let me tell you something. When I'm done with James Harrison, I beat his ass. I mean, you welcome. I mean, whatever you want to do. Ocho, start with somebody like at 140. Man, that man. Adrian say he's 6 '6", 265, 270. Hey, Unc. Unc, listen to me. Mercedes, I'm 6 '4", 230, man. What you talking about, Unc? Let's stop playing with me. So you not got to worry about his conditioning. He fight. He MMA. He trains like that. So you know his conditioning is through the roof. Hold on. Time out. Time out, man. stop playing with me on sweet jesus man i trained it's just it's just different it's just different though it's um like if we were just straight boxing potentially like you may be able to land a couple shots but i'll still fight behind my jab and we listen no hold on i've landed no you see how you see how calm i am right now how you gonna get let me ask you a question ocho how you gonna get up you don't you've never fought from your back you don't know how to get up who you talk about man i could fight out my back foot front foot no i said your back not your back your back your back oh i'm what you hey i was i was the state champion grappler um what you talk about your ground game like no game like that running yeah it would be it would be dope to uh to roll with you though if you ever want to roll obviously yeah let me know let me know let me know hey what's wrong with my goddamn camera don't start me lying it's your camera we we got we got bar said to somebody you know hey if you want if you want to bang a little bit he hey he ready he got the gear and everything oh so logging off now huh nah hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey in mercedes bro no yeah i don't know no spare me the only thing only spare i know about is the tire and it's in my trunk so let me ask you a question so where where's home mercedes uh sherman oaks now oh okay okay okay so you stay you stayed in cali yeah i'm in la um i bought my mom a house in lake wood which is about 30 minutes from long beach where i grew up at um we spent some time in like south central's abusive relationship all that you know you know how it go and um for me i bought a house in the casino and then obviously the fires happened it got close to the crib thankfully i was able to sell sell my house um last year and then now it's more so just renting to be more cash free because i'm not sure what i was gonna do was i gonna play a 20th year or potentially go to the front office or whatever i just didn't know and so right um now i gotta hold that off for another two months or three months and figure that out but that's what so you you're looking at potentially thinking the valley is probably going to be where you set drop anchor at i think so but it's going to be california not necessarily the valley because we don't want to give out your information right well you know probably california you're cali kid at heart so that's probably where you gonna set up shop yeah like california is uh you know i i feel like like me and my mom are like best friends too i don't know if i could just you know bounce on her like that and then that far away from her yeah and so like i would probably rather stay there but i'm i love to travel too so even if even if I like got something again in California it would probably be like just a dope penthouse or something I don't have to worry about maintenance I want the panoramic and I could just pull up plug and play and then I travel because having a house and all that the mortgage bro I'm over it I'm over paying mortgages and interest rates and I'm just over it so I just you know the older you get like for me I've been more of a minimalist the older I've gotten.

1:07:54And so I realized that I don't need a whole bunch to find joy. Like, I'm happy inside, you know? So all the other things that, like, and mind you, playing in Jacksonville, it wasn't the real NFL experience, right? Like, it's not there's nothing in Jacksonville, right?

1:08:09Shannon Sharpe:No. You heard that, Duval? Come on. I mean, when I got to Jacksonville, they robbing players. It was barely any restaurants. dudes was getting stuck up at gas stations no swear to god dudes was getting stuck up at gas stations it was just not I was like dude what am I doing out here like I was born in Long Beach I saw all that in Long Beach went to UCLA that changed right I'm in Brentwood you between Brentwood and Beverly I get to Jacksonville I'm like okay we're going backwards now as far as like how I'm living right and so yeah man at this point I'm just like the least that I have to worry about, least overhead that I have to worry about, can I just pack a bag and go travel and go see the world?

1:08:54Because playing ball, I've been playing Pop Warner since I was seven, have not stopped. I'm 41. When I retire after this year, I just want to see the world, man, like, in a real way. You know? Yeah.

1:09:06Shannon Sharpe:Well, you know, at your size, you know, everybody gonna think you did something. So you go to foreign country, they gonna be part. They like, you did something. 100 % You ain't just big for no reason walking around Nah And I'm low key too Like I've already checked into it Like certain places Especially in South America Like I've been in Costa Rica for my birthday But like I'm getting NFL to give me some security or something Like I'm not Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm not walking around You know Dilly dabbling in And I expected nothing to happen So Yeah yeah Right You definitely gotta be on You gotta Hey you gotta be on your best behavior Watch your six at all times And the best thing to do is the NFL Hey, hook it up for your boy.

1:09:46Shannon Sharpe:Come on, man. Set me up, please. Right. Hey, when you hit the Broncos, what number are you wearing? I'm wearing 89. Okay, you got cars. I thought you was going to get 84. I said, man, make the 84 look good one last time, man. Nah, you best to ever do it, bro. And ain't no way. Ain't no way. And I wouldn't even. I just wouldn't. Out of just the respect. And it was crazy because you came up. Like, I'm in there, and they're like, what number do you want? I'm like, 89. And they're looking at the thing. I was like, yeah, there's no 89. And then I looked at Sean Payton, and Sean Payton was like, yeah, the best tight end ever played here is 84.

1:10:22I said, yeah, he's one of the best ever played in this league, too. You know what I mean? So, like, and that's all positions. So, that's not even a question. Like.

1:10:32Shannon Sharpe:I appreciate that, man. Thank you, man. 100%. Hey, man, enjoy it, man. Hey, Broncos look good. They got a nice defense. Defense is sensational. Bo Nix is playing really well. Cortland Sutton, Mims they got guys that can go make plays that can run the football with Harvey and Dobbins, hey, keep it going man, and who knows, spicy you're saying Fran, baby let's do it man, I appreciate you guys thanks for having me bro, this is the first time you know, me and Sharp actually had a conversation, so I was geeked for that, Osho, we always be seeing each other out and hollering at each other Joe, it was a pleasure man, respect your career as well, thank you we're going to say that the MMA, whatever, Muay Thai, Jitsu, whatever you want to do, whatever you call it, or Mercedes, you call it.

1:11:15Okay.

1:11:16Shannon Sharpe:And we'll get Ocho there. And then we'll have the paramedic pick him up and bring him back. But so, man, appreciate y 'all love, man. Appreciate you, bro. Have a good one, man. Thank you, bro. Man, hey, that's unbelievable, man. Hey, 20 years playing that position. I think, guys, I think I could, I know I could have got 15. But ain't no way in hell I could have got 20. Yeah. Why not? Why you say that? You know, because Joe, we used to hit. We bang. We don't do that bullshit that we doing now. Oh, Joe, you better tell him. Hey, it was different back then. It was different. Yeah. I came up in the 90s where shells were shoulder pads.

1:12:00Shannon Sharpe:It wasn't that sort of the shells that you have up underneath your pads. That's what they call shells now. We literally have on shoulder pads and shorts. That was a shell day. But you thudded up. You thudded. You had on full pads Wednesday and Thursday. You thudded up. Nine on seven was real. Team was like, hey, we were thumping. Training camp were hell. It wasn't no walkthrough. It was hell. We putting people on the ground in training camp. And, you know, we do what they do now, these joint practices, Ocho. But we was going overseas. So we would go overseas. Let's just say we went to Berlin. And so we would get there on like a Sunday.

1:12:37Shannon Sharpe:We scrimmage. We scrimmage in the Dolphins. You know, we go places. We scrimmage in the 49ers. We scrimmage in Seattle when we go to Japan. But, yeah, it was – man, that's – It's a lot of fluff going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I'm not saying – look, I'm not saying the guys aren't talented because they're super talented because, you know, look, there's this thing called evolution. Players get better. They're more equipped. They know more. The training is better. They eat better. The cold tubs and they got red light sunny and all those things. Those things are better now. But, hey, we banged. For real, for real.

1:13:20Shannon Sharpe:You heard him say Oklahoma. They ain't doing no Oklahoma no more, Ocho. Hey, absolutely not. Absolutely not. Hey, hey, hey, um. Man, I need to fix this camera, man. Hey, I got a new computer. I got a new camera because obviously the last two shows, I had to use the laptop camera because the USB wasn't recognizing the camera for me to use through the actual Sony. So I bought a new camera today. I bought a new laptop, Joe. And even with the new laptop and new camera, it still wasn't recognizing the camera. So they gave me a Cam Link. Is that what it's called? Yeah, a Cam Link. so I got the cam link you know plugged into the the port and it was able to recognize on zoom but now I don't know what's going on it keep it keep going in and out little Elgato thing probably say since you ain't paid me my 5900 it's gonna keep doing that in my 100 god damn might well throw it in there old Joe I owe you too Joe man come on why we gotta get to this every time I'm just saying Joe I don't I don't remember betting you Joe I don't remember I know I owe Unk, but I told Unk - You just said on a couple shows ago that you remember owing me$100.

1:14:35For real?

1:14:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, and I told you the season started back and everything, but I told you I ain't gonna hold that against you. Well, hold on, hold on, Joe. Let me check the books. Let me check the books. I'm gonna check the books. If I check the books, I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna get back to you. Okay. As far as Unk is concerned, listen, Unk, man, listen, Unk gonna have to get that back in blood. You hear me? He's gonna have to get that back in blood. Why I gotta get it back in blood? Man, I just, I mean, Unk, it's just a friendly wager, man. Because, man, listen, let me stay with me real quick, Joe. Hey, Joe, listen to me, Joe.

1:15:01Joe, I've been begging for my Funko. I've been begging for my high school jersey. I've been begging for the wards. Hey, Joe, he ain't sent me nothing, Joe. So you saying you got to hold his funds. Hold on. Not only that, Joe, I had to go break in his house and steal two of my trophies.

1:15:21Hey, Joe, I had to go steal these, Joe. You hear me? Oh, man. I put on my shiesty. I put on my shiesty. Man, that too. It look good. You probably want to say that too.

1:15:32Shannon Sharpe:You got your last name Johnson. They think you play football. Man, come on. Stop playing. Man, you can sit there right over here. Hey, Joe, see how y 'all playing? Hey, see how y 'all playing? You want the red one or the white one, Joe? What? Oh, yeah. Hey, I want number two in Atlanta. That's so perfect. Get that all over here. I'll take it. Hey, there y 'all go. Hey, there y 'all go. that out to you tomorrow joe hey hey listen hey listen it's one thing it's one thing about oh mary had a little lamb don't don't maybe put that shiesty on you hear me yeah all right hey you know what yeah i'm hey i'm gonna have to put this pool stick on this it is man hey you remember back in the day the country joe joker he go across your head with the pool stick yeah yeah but oh joe ain't I'm gonna do right.

1:16:23Shannon Sharpe:I think I have to go and put the pool stick upside his head, Chad. And I know y 'all understand. Hey, that thing look brand new over there, man. You put some use to it, it been you. With the pool stick. Yeah. Hey, Joe, he don't play no pool, man. How you gonna bend over? How you gonna bend over on the table, he ain't got no hips? Oh, man. Hey, Joe, you see that right there, don't you know, Joe? You see that? Okay, I see how he holding it. He know it looking something. Hey, Joe, anybody can hold a tennis. They call me Georgia Slim. I beat fast. Hey, hey Joe. The magician. Anybody know how to hold a tennis racket?

1:17:01Anybody know how to hold a golf club? Don't mean they can golf. Anybody know how to hold a pool stick?

1:17:04Shannon Sharpe:Don't mean a nigga shoot no pool. All you gotta do is look up at Fred Reyes. Hey, hey, man, we got a stream, we got a stream of pool game with us in the pool. I beat the great club, Ocho. I don't know about you, Joe, but I beat that ball head with the ball head. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Time out. Hey. Hey, um. Oh, you got a pool stick that hasn't been used. You don't know how to play no pool. Don't worry about what's been used. I use it on you. You remember how grandma had them switches in the corner? They ain't been used either. Until you act up and all of a sudden she use them on you.

1:17:34You see, hey, Joe, that's going to be our show, Joe. When football season end, I got a TVU backpack, right? I haven't been able to use it. So you know how you got all the streamers, Kai Sinatra and all them boys. So we don't have nothing for the old folks. or the older crowd.

1:17:50Shannon Sharpe:I see you, I see you. I know they gonna be, Joe, don't worry about this, Joe. Especially the house of Humperdin'. Hey Joe, well, listen, we gonna have old folks time. We gonna bowl, we gonna go fishing, we gonna play pool. I already know you don't know nothing about no fishing. We gonna court everything, huh? You don't know how to set no hook, you don't know how to set no line, you don't know nothing about no fishing, you don't. Hey, hey, wait a minute. Hey, that's how I know he don't know about me. I'm from Miami. I used to catch Goliath grouper back in 83. What kind of grouper? Goliath grouper.

1:18:27Shannon Sharpe:First of all, they put your ass in jail, you catch a Goliath grouper. Hey, hold on, hold on, I threw him back. Yeah, that's what I said. You better throw his ass back. I threw him back. You don't throw it back, they gonna throw your ass in jail. You can't keep no Goliath grouper. Yeah, hey, but listen, listen, statement real quick. Real quick, they used to take me, they used to take me to fishermen. They called in Captain Jack. Captain Jack used to take me deep sea fishing. We used to catch Goliath Rupert. Oh, Lord. Matter of fact, when he couldn't bring it in, I used to get in the water. First of all, you don't actually go fishing for Goliath Rupert.

1:19:02Shannon Sharpe:They actually, like, just bite. So what were you actually fishing for? We caught him by accident. We caught him by accident. He was, like, 630 pounds. So what were you actually fishing for? Snapper? Were you fishing for tuna? brezzino what were you actually fishing for tuna this boy here hey we were fishing for tuna all right I'll tell you what I'll oblige we go we go deep sea fishing we go shore fishing we go whatever we go we go bass fishing we go crappie fishing we go sheephead fishing whatever wait a minute let's do the hardest one let's do the hardest one let's go spearfishing let's go spearfishing yeah okay okay okay yeah i'm a i'm a nomad i can hold my breath by six minutes oh lord have mercy spit let's go spearfishing i'm telling you what yeah hey hey hey i'm a free diver look we can go catch perch we can catch bluegill we can we can go fish whatever i'm not going hunting with you first of all i'm you i'm gonna need you to get six months of your gun training before i go hunt with you because you're not finna shoot me in my ass hey no no i ain't gonna shoot you i if i if i ain't no angle i ain't gonna say oh no but you know how to hey hey stay with me now i know how to work a pistol you hear me first of all who going hunting with a pistol what the hell you hurt for what you what do you oh cho hey hold on either go we hold on are you i use this oh we taking a high power rifle 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 something like that i got my switch i don't need all that nobody going no damn switching no damn

1:20:51Shannon Sharpe:hey joe hey joey tripping hey hey hey let me show you how i'm a hunt joe i'm gonna be going to the club i'm going to the woods i'm trying to we're going to kill rad uh a white tail we're going to we're going to kill hogs or something they're up there talking about some food giant oh we go quail hunting i don't care but i need you to get some training because i'm not going nowhere with no gun with ocho and he ain't never shot a gun a day in the damn life

1:21:20Shannon Sharpe:he ain't been shooting me in my ass hey listen me and the homies we used to go paintballing We used to go paintball and we'd divide up in teams. Be like five out of 10. Then we split up out in the woods. And they come back in and he say, man, I can't be on this dude team. This dude just shot me in my face. We team. Exactly. Man, that's about, he ain't talking about he going hunting. He ain't bad talking about he going hunting with a pistol. Who the hell hunting with a pistol? Uh-oh, there you go. Hey, Joe. Hey, the animals ain't even gonna see me coming, Joe. Oh, man. Hey, they ain't even gonna see me coming, Joe.

1:21:56Oh, Joe, do you know how to get in the tree stand? Yeah. Do I know how to get in the tree stand? But I had a tree house. I built a tree house back at Joe. Can you? I had a tree house when I was 13.

1:22:10Shannon Sharpe:I built a tree house in a tree by myself. This man don't know how to stand in no tree stand. He don't know how to sit still. First of all, he ain't going to be quiet. In the tree stand. Hold on. Wait a minute. I went with Carson Palmer. I went with Carson and Jordan Palmer. they took me they took me deer hunting i was in the tree stand for seven hours i had to douse myself with people yeah don't piss oh excuse me but anyway ocho joe he gonna go out there with creed on and all the animals go smell his ass from a mile away hell no i can go nowhere with you he done got on no no no he don't know how to he don't know how to stay down he don't know how to I'm not I'm a chill Hey Joe Everything he talking about I done did Joe I done did I just It's not something that I'm That I'm excited about But I've done everything once Joe I've done everything once All the hunting All that fish And all that deer hunting You know how to stay downwind Oh Joe You know how to stay downwind Yeah you ain't got no choice But to stay downwind Because if you don't stay downwind They gonna know you down They got the Hey listen Them animals out there They got the greatest sense of smell Of all species That's why I'm not going with you because you going out there with cologne on.

1:23:23I ain't gonna wear no cologne?

1:23:24Shannon Sharpe:Uncle, I ain't even showered in three days. Hey, he don't know how to wear no camouflage. He out there with a red Cristiano Ronaldo jersey. And tell my dad, where the animals at, huh? Cause they smell it, they see your ass with that big old red jersey on. That would a F they at. He don't know how to wear no camouflage. Man, I ain't fooling with no Joe Bann. Man, he don't know how to dress. Man, he ain't got no gear. Ooh. Ooh. Boy, listen. Hey, I got some camouflage, y 'unk. Hey, listen, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. That'll be a sight to see, boy. Yeah. That's why we gonna stream it. We gonna stream it 24-7.

1:24:06Shannon Sharpe:I know how to hunt. If we going squirrel hunting, we going rabbit hunting, we going quail hunting. First of all, Ocho, you ain't never shot no gun. You never shot no animal on the move. Hold on. time out uh i didn't hit squirrels back in the day i didn't hit raccoons and a possum down here what do you shoot with that bb gun that pellet gun who me yeah oh no i had a a 64. a 64. what the hell is that yeah yeah see that's what i'm talking about that's how i know you ain't no shooter first of all you ain't know what a 64 is yeah first of all hey that's what we carry hey oh that's what we carry down here in the crib no first of all you shoot squirrel you first of all use a rifle man because it's a small animal you don't want to mess up the meat no no no no no um let me tell you something hey joe anytime you shoot a squirrel you got to set an example what you said you want to eat the squirrel for the rest of the squirrels you know i'm not the one to play with don't come right here with that boy don't come right hey you kill an ant with a sledge yes you ain't got to worry about no joe but what you're trying to do because you're going to eat the squirrel ocho if you shoot him with a shotgun you gonna mess you gonna mess that well ain't gonna be nothing there oh you want to eat yeah yeah what the hell we going on he fuck oh no no no no i'm shooting the squirrel to set an example for the rest of the squirrels not to come here messing with the mangoes in the tree i don't care the squirrels come out first of all ocho we going out we ain't shooting no city squirrels i don't care nothing about that first of all you go to jail i come from the city we not eating the squirrels yeah we're not eating the squirrels in the city you eat the squirrels in the country that's what i'm saying that's what you can't hunt in the city no but i'm saying i i mean i can adapt huh that's what that's what life is about it's about adapting so i can adapt to what you like to do if i got to be in the woods i know how to act have you ever shot a shotgun before a 12 gauge 410 20 gauge have you ever shot a high-powered rifle 30-06 30-30 30-08 let me tell you before before football i was in the feel you hear me hey hey joe i don't know i would man hey joe i would like that joe on sweet jesus i would like that i'm telling you you like i ain't play you like the yans out here man listen joe i'm not proud of that lifestyle i used to live back in 87 but see first of all the yans that's i mean shooting somebody at point it's not like they shooting somebody from a distance you not finna walk you're not gonna shoot an animal as close as somebody shooting a human being you do realize it's like three y 'all like 10 feet less than 25 yards from each other you shooting an animal from distance socho you do know you do know i was i was in the marines right you do know it's in the marines right do you do you do know i was a sniper yeah you a sniper huh yeah oh lord have mercy hey i hit a target from 420 feet joe Yo, 420 feet.

1:27:06At the bottle top, the bottle top off a Coke bottle. Yo, I ain't like that.

1:27:10Shannon Sharpe:No, that man ain't shooting nothing over no 100 yards. That's facts. Hey, Joe, 420 feet. He might not hit a person from 100 yards away, let alone a damn bottle top. Yo, I'll laugh for you before I lie to you, Joe. I knocked a bottle top off a Coke bottle from 420 feet, and I only got one eye. Do you know how hard it is to hit an object from that far away, that small? Let me ask you a question. Take your glasses off. Take your glasses off. Let me see how you shoot. Take your glasses off. Put the gun up. Okay, you got the gun. How you shooting? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, hell, this man got a slingshot. This man got a slingshot, Joe.

1:27:57Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. This man got a slingshot. Second of all, you shoot from that distance, you got both eyes open, Ocho. You not shoot from no one I could. I thought this man got a slingshot, Joe. This man be thinking he must be shooting Goliath. And he David. Hey, Joe. Hey, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. Okay, Ocho, boy, that'll be some must-see TV, boy. I'm telling you. Hey, hey, hey, I'm not gonna lie. Ocho, I don't think you can hit Nathan out there. I don't think he can. hey hey hey listen that's that's what i like people that's what i like people to think i can't hit that i can't hit this but then they get hit it's like oh he really liked that also you if you were to like try to shoot somebody because you got to understand the distance in which you are but i'm talking about an animal i'm talking about a deer i'm talking about a hog i'm talking about i can hit up in a tree i'm talking about a quail because here's the thing let's just say we take dogs out so the dogs gonna start tripping is gonna start creeping up now they're gonna put they're gonna freeze and now yeah yeah hey um i used to have i used to have pointers i used to have points i live in the city chat y 'all believe ocho can shoot i mean look at that look at that ocho the The way he aiming and shooting that slingshot, he not about to hit nothing.

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