Nightcap Hour 1: NFL Hall of Fame DENIES Bill Belichick + Shannon UNLEASHES on the Hall of Fame + Eli Manning MISSES out on Hall Of Fame for the 2ND TIME

29 Jan 2026 · 1 h 5 min · 23 chapters

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Nightcap Podcast Episode Summary: NFL Hall of Fame DENIES Bill Belichick + Eli Manning

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Nightcap Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, Joe Johnson Episode Title: Nightcap Hour 1: NFL Hall of Fame DENIES Bill Belichick + Eli Manning MISSES out on Hall Of Fame for the 2ND TIME Episode Description: Shannon Sharpe, Chad Johnson, and Joe Johnson discuss the NFL Hall of Fame snubbing Bill Belichick and Eli Manning's second miss, along with Joe's Basketball Hall of Fame nomination.

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Key Discussions

  1. Bill Belichick's Hall of Fame Snub
  2. Tom Brady's Reaction: Brady criticized the Hall of Fame voting committee for excluding Belichick.
  3. Arguments Made by Hosts:
  4. Shannon Sharpe highlighted Belichick's numerous accolades, including the most Super Bowl victories by a head coach.
  5. Chad Johnson suggested that the snub was a form of retribution due to Belichick's often closed-off demeanor during press conferences.
  6. Joe Johnson noted that the Hall's standards seem inconsistent, raising parallels to Terrell Owens’ Hall of Fame journey.
  1. Critique of Hall of Fame Voting Process
  2. Inconsistencies Identified:
  3. The hosts discussed how voters may allow personal biases to influence their decisions, particularly in high-profile cases like Belichick and Owens.
  4. Shannon stressed the need for transparency in the voting process, questioning why the voting records aren't made public.
  1. Eli Manning's Hall of Fame Journey
  2. Second Year of Eligibility: Manning did not receive enough votes for induction, causing some controversy.
  3. Analysis of Manning’s Stats: The hosts pointed out that while he had Super Bowl successes, his overall statistics are debated, which complicates his Hall of Fame case.
  4. Comparison with Jim Plunkett: They referenced other players, like Jim Plunkett, who have also been overlooked for induction despite significant accomplishments.
  1. Joe Johnson's Nomination for Basketball Hall of Fame
  2. Personal Impact: Joe shared his emotions surrounding his nomination and the joy it brings to him, reflecting on his career and achievements.

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Key Takeaways

  • The Importance of Recognition: The emotional weight of the Hall of Fame for players and their families was emphasized, illustrating how it serves as a pinnacle of achievement in sports.
  • Questioning Meritocracy: The episode raised critical questions about whether the Hall of Fame and its voters genuinely uphold a meritocratic system when recognizing players.
  • Personal Reflection on Legacy: The hosts reflected on their personal journeys, emphasizing the essence of legacy beyond just accolades.

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Notable Quotes

  • Shannon Sharpe: "This kind of lessens the value of actually getting in based on accolades and resume."
  • Chad Johnson: "It’s a get back for them... controlling the narrative."
  • Joe Johnson: "I never thought about getting in the Hall of Fame while I was playing. I was just out there having fun enjoying the game."

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Conclusion This episode of Nightcap dives deep into the contentious topic of Hall of Fame inductions, sparking a rich discussion about recognition, legacy, and the politics that can cloud merit-based accomplishments in professional sports. The heartfelt reflections and insightful critiques from the hosts offer a compelling blend of analysis and personal experience that resonates well with sports enthusiasts.

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Show Banter and Highlights

5:50 to 14:00

Listen to the hosts engage in lively banter and humorous anecdotes.

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Lighthearted Banter and Setup

14:00 to 16:15

The hosts engage in playful banter, setting the stage for deeper discussions.

“Man, listen, I'm going to drink some hot tea.”

Bill Belichick's Hall of Fame Snub

16:15 to 18:00

Discussion on Tom Brady's comments regarding Bill Belichick's exclusion from the Hall of Fame.

“Tom Brady joined the chorus of voices living.”

Politics Behind Hall of Fame Decisions

19:44 to 24:46

Exploring the political aspects and biases in the Hall of Fame voting process.

“So them being able to do it to Bill Belichick, who doesn't sit right with a lot of people that are in those positions of power to control who gets it in and who doesn't.”

Critique of Voting Practices

24:46 to 28:00

A critical look at the voting practices for the Hall of Fame and the implications for players.

“So, Joe, you got to think when I put that Hall of Fame jacket on myself, you know that was not an approval of any and everybody.”

The Debate on Hall of Fame Voting

28:00 to 30:14

Explore the complexities of Hall of Fame voting criteria and biases.

“have we ever seen a streak of domination in the NFL in the history of the game?”

Controversies Surrounding Coach Belichick

30:14 to 33:36

Discuss the controversies and perceptions around Coach Belichick's candidacy for the Hall of Fame.

“And needing the validation just because you don't wear that gold jacket don't mean you wasn't that boy on that field.”

Personal Reflections on NFL Success

36:24 to 42:00

Dive into personal anecdotes about NFL careers, success, and perceptions of players.

“See, I used to hold back because I was really trying to get my brother because I knew they were going to use what I said against him.”

The Winning Aspect of Quarterbacks

42:00 to 42:52

Discussion on the significance of quarterback wins and accolades in the NFL.

“If you don't get any space, you throw the hand in.”

Personal Insights on Bill Belichick

42:52 to 44:08

A personal perspective on Bill Belichick's character away from the football field.

“That's what they tell you when they want to get said guy in.”
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The Honor of the Hall of Fame

44:08 to 47:51

Reflections on the Hall of Fame and personal stories related to it.

“But most of the time, depending on who you are, especially the face of the team, you have to conduct yourself a certain way.”

Debate on Hall of Fame Inductions

47:51 to 49:51

Discussion on the controversial inductions and exclusions in the Hall of Fame.

“She had to leave this place physically and go with me there spiritually because then that body wasn't going to take her.”

Creating Personal Recognition

49:51 to 51:04

A humorous take on creating one's own Hall of Fame tribute after exclusion.

“Anybody that played against DT, ask them.”

Voter Concerns and Hall of Fame Selection

51:04 to 53:32

Discussion on the voting process and controversies surrounding Belichick's selection.

“I don't know who's going to get this, the kids.”

The Legacy of Hall of Fame Players

53:32 to 56:01

Examinations of the legacies of past Hall of Fame players and their impact.

“The Hall did not mention Belichick by name or identify the selection process bylaws may have been broken.”

Pittsburgh Steelers' Remarkable Draft Class

56:01 to 56:53

Discussion about the Steelers' draft successes and Hall of Fame induction.

“The Steelers drafted five Hall of Famers in 74.”

Eli Manning's Hall of Fame Wait

56:55 to 58:05

Exploring Eli Manning's Hall of Fame candidacy and his statistics.

“Eli Manning, Ocho, will have to wait at least one more year.”

Debate on Hall of Fame Eligibility

58:06 to 59:08

A debate on the criteria for Hall of Fame induction and comparisons with other players.

“I think it's the right call it's the right call he was drafted first overall he's gonna get in you heard me on he did what did he do in 1970 went first overall didn't Archie go second He was 71.”

Reflections on Hall of Fame Aspirations

59:09 to 1:01:28

Players reflect on their thoughts about the Hall of Fame during their careers.

“Like I said, I used to – like I said, after they made DT wait five times, I was like, I don't know what a Hall of Famer is.”

Humor and Friendly Banter

1:01:29 to 1:02:29

Light-hearted exchanges and banter between hosts about Hall of Fame and personal anecdotes.

“From the looks of it, it look like I'm gonna be in the nightcap hall of fame too.”

Trash Talk and Game Plans

1:02:30 to 1:09:58

The hosts engage in trash talk and discuss future competitive games.

“I'm just saying from how things going right now, currently.”

The Importance of Winning and Talking

1:10:00 to 1:10:40

Discussion about the relationship between success, performance, and talking too much.

“Hey, you know why he not going to win nothing else?”

Creating a Monster: The Entertainment Factor

1:10:40 to 1:11:50

Conversation about the dynamics of entertainment and expectations leading up to an event.

“Hey, Chad, we got another episode for y 'all coming up.”
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4:14Shannon Sharpe:Hello, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite Unc, my partner and co-host, the Liberty City legend, the bingo ring of fame honoree, a one-time Pro Bowler and an All-Pro. That is Chad Ochocinco Johnson, the third member of the Big Three, joining us on every Wednesday night. Y 'all know him, University of Arkansas alum, Little Rock, Arkansas native, a seven-time NBA All-Star with the Atlanta Hawks. That's ISO Joe, Joe Johnson. Joe, thanks for joining us again tonight, man. No problem. Appreciate y 'all. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button.

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6:03Shannon Sharpe:Meet and greet tickets are completely sold out, but there's still general admission tickets left. Again, the meet and greet tickets have sold out, but there are a couple of general admission tickets still left. Grab those while you can. Come out and watch Unc and Ocho live at Nightcap. Episode one of Nightcap Outside dropped last night. Chat, let us know what you think. Let us know. We all got to poll up. Let us know what you think. Y 'all saw your ball. Y 'all saw what I did. Y 'all saw what Joe did. hey bta man you know what i'm saying hey now he want to do stuff i need to do stuff joe you hear if i need to do stuff that that that's physically that's physically i gotta use come on now man

6:50Joe Johnson:listen listen what would that mean what would that mean that's your fault for being 60. now he want to get out there and run and play flag football listen no no no no no no i need to do activities that I'm familiar with. Y 'all did stuff for old people. I'm not old. Y 'all did old people. Why you do all that talking to you? You should have just kept your mouth closed. Nah, I mean, listen, they edited to make y 'all look good.

7:15Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Ocho, Ocho. Just, just, just, just fess up, man. Just say, look, man, Joe, you, you, you was, you was a bad mofo that day. Unk did aight. Just say you were slow.

7:27Joe Johnson:Yo, yo, listen to me, Joe. Listen to me. a squirrel even a clock is right two times a day joe hello well you clearly you got a clock

7:36Shannon Sharpe:because you weren't right no time that day so just say just so you know i tell you i tell you

7:43Joe Johnson:what now next time we go and we do something yo you gonna get your ass tore up again hey hey joe i was respecting my elders now my elders talking trash hey listen i'm now i got now i got to open

7:55Shannon Sharpe:up a can i'm gonna keep it real with you i felt like i should have won i should have i should have won the I felt like I should have won the cornhole and I should have won the golf I just you know how in other words you should have won sweepstakes at the lawn club yeah that hey I was trying to sweep it I ain't gonna lie to you I was trying to

8:13Joe Johnson:sweep you boy I like I like the fact that Joe you have confidence in these in these other crafts that you do outside of basketball but I got something for y 'all I was trying to respect my elders and be respectful of you and the fact that you're handicapped but I see

8:28Shannon Sharpe:I didn't bring the placard that day So you didn't know I was handicapped I put belt ass I was in a wheelchair I was rolling around Don't worry about it

8:37Joe Johnson:I got you I got you

8:39Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all got to look on the bright side though Think about this See y 'all playing against me The best So when we play against these other podcasters Y 'all gonna put BTA to them You feel me?

8:51Joe Johnson:Hold on We playing against who? The best who? Come on Come on Ojo You seen my work You seen my work Ojo Hey, Joe, that was a small sample size, Joe, and you just happened to win that day. Wait, okay, wait till the next episode.

9:04Shannon Sharpe:You think that was something. There you go. There he go. See what you started? Hey, hey. All right. See what you started, Ocho? All right. Yeah. When did he get off the Russell talking? I wasn't even talking that much. Oh, I'm about to blow you. Oh, I know you boys don't know how to play no golf. I know you guys can't putt. Oh, you got too much muscle. Ocho, you ain't never been on the golf course in your life.

9:26Joe Johnson:Yeah, I ain't never been on the golf course That's not what I do So, I mean, listen, he got that I'm gonna let him have that, Joe And you tried to cheat

9:35Shannon Sharpe:Joe, did we not say sudden death? In sudden death in the golf, you play a hole If somebody holds up, it's over You don't get to, well, I got three more shots No, you don't, it's over He cheated I cheated I just walked that thing like Tiger Woods Hey, hey I know what I'm up against now, though. I see what's going on. I'm good. I'm good. I beat Tiger Hood. He never could be on a palm tree. On a palm tree? Pull that thing out.

10:06Joe Johnson:Hey. Hey, Joe, I was chilling. I was chilling. I ain't even have on clothes to actually do activities. I would dress to go to dinner. So that's how you feel I want to be taking a serious. I would dress to go to dinner. I gave you a compliment on that jacket, too. With that jacket with 5 ,900. Nah, that was about 12 ,000. Damn, hold on.

10:26Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, that's how much You want me double that

10:35Shannon Sharpe:That and they talk about man, oh you need to go easy on Ocho nah I will find that so say I'm a break him on the show That one that I'll be no girl. No, I'm a break him on the show. Yeah. Yeah

10:51Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe

10:55Joe Johnson:Oh, you can bring, oh yeah, bring him, bring him too. Cause he, listen, you gotta understand that's 1991. I done surpassed him three times over. So I ain't worried, I ain't worried about you bringing him on.

11:06Shannon Sharpe:You know how they do. They get one up on us. Oh yeah, you know, I took Ocho girl. You been on Chad? Yeah, the one from Beach High School.

11:14Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah. Right. What? Hey Joe, can I tell you something Joe?

11:19Shannon Sharpe:Go ahead, go ahead.

11:19Joe Johnson:That was 4 ,276 girls ago. You up there with Will, ain't you? Huh? You up there with Will Chamberlain. I taught Will everything.

11:32Shannon Sharpe:But here's the thing. This is what we do know. We still remember that one that got took. 50 girls ago, 30 girls ago, 20 ,000.

11:42Joe Johnson:That's fine. Let me say it. Give me my money. Hold on. If you take something from me, then you're doing me a favor because that's one less expense. There you go. I like how you do it, Joe. I got a, I told you I'm gonna pay you at the show. I'm gonna pay you at the show. I'm gonna bring 5 ,900 in cash. And that's how you know what?

11:59Shannon Sharpe:That's perfect. Because the Mississippi mass choir is gonna be there. They can sing at your funeral. If you don't have any my money, that's exactly what they can do.

12:08Joe Johnson:Hey, why y 'all ain't tell me the news?

12:11Shannon Sharpe:Oh, I wasn't supposed to tell you. But anyway, you know what? They might pull out now. They say until you pay Unki's money, they ain't singing a thing.

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12:19Joe Johnson:Yeah. Hey, Joe, listen. Hey, Joe, I'm singing with the Mississippi Mass Choir, which has always been a dream of mine. You know, they wanted me to sing with them when I was younger, you know, back in my early days. And Joe, hey, listen to me. When I used to do my chores on Saturdays, my grandma, she would either have Mahalia Jackson playing, either Reverend James Cleveland or the Mississippi Mass Choir. So I've always been a fan of them. So I used to be through the house, you know, mopping, cleaning the grass with my cassette player, listening to the Mississippi Mass Choir. so Joe I get to live out my childhood dream at the show on Thursday

12:55Shannon Sharpe:hey Joe you know I can

12:58Joe Johnson:sing huh nah I ain't know that yeah Joe I was on America Idol

13:03Shannon Sharpe:but was you in the choir when you was younger yes you had to wear the robe and everything yeah Joe yeah I used to lead the junior I led the junior choir Joe yeah what you a soprano what are you

13:18Joe Johnson:I'm a soprano

13:20Shannon Sharpe:They call him Francis Scott Offkey Who? You

13:26Joe Johnson:Hey Joe listen to me Joe On a hill Far away Stood an old Rugged cross Yeah hey Joe I can go Joe hey Joe I can go now Yeah man Yeah I'm like that I'm like that Joe I'm excited I appreciate that As a matter of fact, everybody from the nightcap team, if you can hear me, I love you. I love you. And you don't understand what this means to me, man. I wish my grandma and my mama were here to see this, man. Boy. Hey, Joe, I'm for the cut up, Joe. You for the answer, fool. You don't have any about$5 ,900. Man, listen, I'm going to drink some hot tea. Hey, some hot peppermint tea, Joe. Oh, yeah.

14:08Shannon Sharpe:Boy. Oh, Lord have mercy. Hey, it's been three years now, bro. I think you probably can charge that$5 ,900 to the game. but the boy had a cold yeah you saw that you and i showed up you and i showed up to compete you see what i'm saying joe we we know the ones that ain't showing to compete them the ones they have the freshest joy jays on shirt tucked in their shorts ain't gonna do nothing there you

14:32Joe Johnson:go don't yeah and don't get off the bench yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah don't leave the bitch the dude they got the highest vert ain't left the bitch yet right see this is what i didn't understand this is what i'd understand i had prepared myself right i didn't know what was gonna be like that i ain't know y 'all was y 'all was coming and really gonna like really be into it so now that i understand how it's gonna go from this point on just know next time i'm coming in sweats and my shoes tied up no glasses no jacket just ready to go okay it don't matter okay you're not with enough of those don't matter it it matter it oh it definitely matter it definitely matter And I would like to know what we're doing ahead of time.

15:14Joe Johnson:No, no, that's the whole point.

15:15Shannon Sharpe:Didn't nobody know what we were doing ahead of time. Yeah, okay. Well, that's why I was dressed like that. No, I didn't tell. I didn't tell me.

15:24Joe Johnson:You knew. I swear I didn't. Don't do that. I didn't. You knew. You knew. Put that on the Bible. I put that on my grandma.

15:32Shannon Sharpe:Had I known, first of all, she wasn't going to tell because she loves it best when I lose. How did I lose?

15:39Joe Johnson:Yeah, well, you're going to lose.

15:41Shannon Sharpe:Don't worry about that. Hey, make sure y 'all edit it so I look good, man.

15:43Joe Johnson:No, we're going to edit it to make you look just like you are, good and terrible. Nah, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do me like that. Hey, God damn, I'm missing your mask quiet.

15:52Shannon Sharpe:See, Ash got mad on you. See, Ash didn't realize she ain't really looking in the backyard that good that I got a cornhole set up. See? See what I mean? See? See? Hey, Joe, see how you taking advantage of the situation? And sometimes when the dog's out there messing around, I go throw a couple of bags, you know, see, get my toss right. You see how I'm flying that thing over there, Joe? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all good. All right, let's get into it. Tom Brady joined the chorus of voices living. That coach Bill Belichick was snubbed from being a pro football Hall of Fame. Said the voting committee decision is completely ridiculous.

16:25Shannon Sharpe:The quarterback coach combination Brady and Belichick famously teamed to lead the Patriots to six Super Bowl victories, nine conference championships. Multiple sources spoke with Belichick over the weekend described him as puzzled and disappointed by his inability to secure support up for at least 80 % of the Hall committee. Ocho, we saw how the Hall did, T.O., but could you have ever imagined them doing this to Coach Bill Belichick?

16:52Joe Johnson:I mean, listen, it's a get back for them. It's a get back for them, for all the press conferences. Bill really being one that really doesn't disclose much. He doesn't give you much during those interviews. And this is what happened when you got people in positions of power that are able to control the narrative and control who gets in and support for the show comes from public the investing platform for those who take it seriously on public you can build a multi-asset portfolio of stocks bonds options crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with ai it all starts with your prompt from renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20 year over year you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work.

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19:43Joe Johnson:Who doesn't? They did it to Tara Owens. So them being able to do it to Bill Belichick, who doesn't sit right with a lot of people that are in those positions of power to control who gets it in and who doesn't. I mean, it was shocking to me, but I kind of understand it because this is what happened when you have ego and pride and people who can control certain narratives when it comes to certain people. Oh, Joe. I honestly is it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It is politics. And listen, as prestigious as it is to be able to get into the Hall of Fame and what it means. I mean, this kind of lessens the value of actually getting in based on accolades and resume.

20:24Joe Johnson:It lessens it. It just does. Because what's the criteria to get in the hall?

20:30Shannon Sharpe:Obviously, he meets all that. When he comes to accolades, exceeds it.

20:34Joe Johnson:Beyond meets it.

20:36Shannon Sharpe:Right. It's ridiculous.

20:38Joe Johnson:It's ridiculous, Zunk.

20:40Shannon Sharpe:A lot of what you said had a lot of truth to it. We saw a situation a couple of days ago with the Tracy Morgan situation. He got treated bad one way when he was younger. Now he's in a position that he can actually help somebody. He's like, nah, I remember you. You bully me. I remember you. Come on now. Same thing. The people that Coach Belichick wrong way back when, when they tried to talk and he was smug and short. Now, listen, two things can be true.

21:12Joe Johnson:Yes, sir.

21:14Shannon Sharpe:They got to get back. Yeah. Vince Lombardi, Coach Lombardi. Coach Chuck Knoll, Coach Tom Landry, Coach Don Shula. The four coaches that's entered the hall on their first try. They're the four first ballot coaches that go in in the Hall of Fame. Coach Belichick has more Super Bowls than any of those. He has more victories other than Coach Shula. He has more playoff wins, probably more than all of them combined. more division titles, there's no doubt. There's no doubt. But I'm just trying to figure out where was the uproar when T.O. didn't go in. Listen, Chad, and this is not a white or a black thing.

22:08Shannon Sharpe:I'm telling you a right and a wrong thing. What they did to T.O. was so egregious, they changed the rules to keep him out on the first ballot. They didn't change no rules. These are the same applicable rules that every member that's been voted on to go into the hall. When they said no matter what a person does off the field, you can't use that to keep him out the hall. Only what he did on the field. When it came time to T.O., they changed the bylaws. What you did on the sidelines could be used against you. What you did in the facility could be used against you because they had nothing on him off the field.

22:48Shannon Sharpe:T.O. has never been in trouble. He's never run a foul with the law. He's never having his name be mentioned for any impropriety. T.O., he led the 49ers in receiving. He led the Eagles in receiving. He led the Cowboys in receiving. He led the Bills in receiving. He led the Bengals in receiving. There are three men in the history of the NFL that's been a first-team All-Pro with three different teams. One of them is one primetime Deion Sanders, first ballot Hall of Famer. The other is Ted Distort Hendrickson. He and one Terrell Owens. He's one of three men with 150 receiving touchdowns in the history of the game.

23:34Shannon Sharpe:Now we're in the Hall of Fame. So now the Hall of Fame doesn't have any merit. When you kept there have been so many guys that should have been a first ballot. And you kept them out. Yes. What they did to coach Belichick is egregious and he should have been a first ballot Hall of Famer, but so so should have T.O. So if you didn't want to change the rules and say, no, what they did to T.O. was wrong. Now, all of a sudden, whoever didn't vote for coach Belichick, it needs to be made public when there's never, ever been a cry to make the votes public. Why not? Yeah.

24:09Joe Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously because it's Coach Belichick. Because it's Coach Belichick and it's egregious, just as egregious as him not letting T.O. in. And this is one of the things, as much as the Hall of Fame means there's so many, you know? And I just, for me, you know who I am. And Joe, you know me as much as we've known each other. You know me extremely well. And those who know me personally know I'm one that never needed validation. I'm one that conducted myself in a way where I felt if I can't be authentic to myself and I still be accepted in whatever it may be, I don't really care. So, Joe, you got to think when I put that Hall of Fame jacket on myself, you know that was not an approval of any and everybody.

25:01Joe Johnson:Even Coach Lewis, a joke came to me after the game and said, you know what? That's not going to sit right with a whole lot of people, especially those voters. And I told Coach Lewis after the game, I say, Coach Lou, when I put that jacket on, that was to let you know and everybody else know I don't need your validation. At that moment, after that touchdown, and I crossed that 10 ,000-yard mark, I felt I was Hall of Fame worthy. And I don't need, which they probably wouldn't because I was always the problem child, Joe. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that perception that I had of enjoyment and having fun in my way and not conforming to what they felt I should have been like.

25:43Shannon Sharpe:No.

25:44Joe Johnson:At that moment, I felt I was Hall of Fame worthy. Right. That's why I put the goddamn jacket on.

25:49Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Joe, I'm going to trip you out now. Now, this is what they're saying. They said that Spygate and Deflategate might have had some bearing or some weight to it to keep Coach Bell to check out. I don't know if you know this, but I was a criminal justice major. Do you guys know what fruit of the poisonous tree is? So the way they do this, if you said Coach Belichick got these Super Bowls and these victories through ill-gotten means, who benefited from those ill-gotten means? There's a guy coming up for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. They say he the GOAT. Yes, sir. It's going to be very interesting.

26:30Shannon Sharpe:Who would have been a beneficiary of Spygate? Who would have been a beneficiary? Of Deflategate. Number 12. Are you going to keep Tom Brady out? You're not. No, sir. So why would you keep Coach Belichick out? Hey, I got a question, Uncle Ocho. Who does the voting? Are these X players? They do have, I think, like three or four players that do vote, but none of them are almost 400. Most of them is 50 men and women. The mere fact that sometimes, Joe, the way it does is that you have a writer from your city, from your team, and he makes an argument. When they went up to do Dan Marino, they said Dan Marino, and they sat back down.

27:12Shannon Sharpe:When they did Peyton Manning, they said Peyton Manning, and they sat back down. You don't even have to make a case. That should have been for Coach Belichick. You already know his resume. The second most wins, the most playoff wins, 17, 18 division titles, six Super Bowls as a head coach, two as a defensive coordinator. His game plan is in the Hall of Fame when he shut down the K-Gun in Super Bowl. I think it was Super Bowl XX. So there shouldn't have had it. There shouldn't be. There shouldn't have to. You shouldn't have to build a case because it's playing this right there. You know what the man did.

27:48Shannon Sharpe:This is not no 1960. And I'm not saying you. I'm not trying to discredit anybody. But this is the modern era. Anything that happened in the Super Bowl. demand, so in the last 25 years, have we ever seen a streak of domination in the NFL in the history of the game? No. So it's going to be very interesting. These same 50 men and women that y 'all said Spygate and Deflategate weighed into winning, well, who benefited? So that means nobody that played on those teams during those Spygate and Deflategate can go into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot by your argument. I'm just using what you said because y 'all used that and then all of a sudden now, don't nobody know?

28:33Shannon Sharpe:Bill Polin said he can't remember. They just had to vote last week, Coach O.

28:38Joe Johnson:Man, you know they got, you know they remember, Joe. This ain't no 15, 20 years ago, Coach.

28:43Shannon Sharpe:If I can see if it was 15, 20 years ago. Man, I can't remember. Man, there's so many guys because we voting, they got 120 guys. We got to will it down to 75. We got to take it down to 50. We got to take it down to 25 and then we get it all the way down to 10. And then we got a senior committee. Yeah. So I can't remember all that over 15 years, Ocho. Man, they remember.

29:02Joe Johnson:They remember. Hey, Joe, they pick and choose when they want to move the goalposts. They do. Depending on who it is. And this was a, okay, now we got you. Now we're going to get you back. Yes. Yes.

29:17Shannon Sharpe:And that's what I try to tell players, Ocho. Yes. That is exactly how it works. Because at the end of the day, Ocho, you got to realize, I understand, you're supposed to take that out of it. but that's a human being. They got feelings. You can't give somebody your ass to kiss and then expect them to do you a solid, even though that's what their job requires. But they're human at the end of the day, Joe. Yeah. Everybody knows Coach Belichick should have been a first ballot Hall of Fame because if he's not, well, whose is? I said the same thing with T.O. I said if T.O. is not a first ballot Hall of Fame receiver, I don't know who is.

29:54Shannon Sharpe:I don't. I really don't. I used to think I knew what a Hall of Famer was, having played in the game, having played against a lot of the guys that went in, because basically anybody that went in, say, 95 on, I probably played against them or saw them up close and personal. So I know, and plus, Ochoa, you know we go in there, we break down meeting. We know the good players. What the media says and all the fan bases get all excited about, all I know is that when we took that guy off that tape, he wasn't one of the guys we circle I'm going to leave it at that so we know for them to do that to coach Belichick it's egregious but I believe two things can be true go ahead Ocho

30:33Joe Johnson:Joe that's some bull crap man I just I hate when people are in positions of power and I never would I would love for players that are always asking to get in I know they would love to be honored but I hate the fact that some of them they beg and they hawk and they try so bad to want to be a part of something because of what it entails. And needing the validation just because you don't wear that gold jacket don't mean you wasn't that boy on that field. You still, based on resume and accolades when you turn that film on, it's still there. The numbers you put up, the stuff that you've done during your career is still there.

31:21Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely.

31:21Joe Johnson:It ain't going nowhere. And I just, I would never, ever give anybody, not just the Hall of Fame in general, never give anybody the satisfaction of knowing they got that over me and being able to control in how I feel.

31:34Shannon Sharpe:It's a situation also. Mr. Kraft, what the hell are we waiting on? Tell me an owner. And I get it. Some of these old owners, Mr. Modell, Art Modell. I won't disrespect him, but I call him Mr. I call him Art. Art, Look at what he did. You got Monday Night Football. He was the reason why. The benefit, the union, he's the reason why. But because he moved his team from Cleveland to Baltimore, because the city, they wouldn't play for the upgrades to the stadium. He's the only owner. The Raiders go back and forth. Hell, the Raiders was moving like they had a mobile home. Hook up the truck and just move it up and down.

32:17Shannon Sharpe:They go to Oakland and back to L.A. They go to L.A., they back to Oakland. Back and forth. Never had to leave the colors. The Rams. Y 'all do, like, the Cardinals. Y 'all do realize the Cardinals used to be in St. Louis, Ocho. Yeah. They moved. They didn't have to leave the colors. The Rams. The Rams originally started out. They were in California. Then they moved to Anaheim. Then they moved to St. Louis. Moved them back. They never left the colors. The Colts, Mr. Ursae, Bob Ursae, moved him in the middle of the night in 1984 like a thief of the night, loaded up the Mayflower vans and moved him, and he never left a color or a record.

33:02Shannon Sharpe:The Tennessee Titans, they used to be the Houston Oilers. They went to Nashville first. Excuse me. Yeah, they went to Memphis. Was it Memphis? I think they went to Memphis first. But anyway, and then they went to Nashville.

33:17Shannon Sharpe:and never have to leave a color or record. Art Modell is the only owner in NFL history that has moved and was required to leave the colors and the records in Cleveland. And they still won't put him in. Mr. Kraft, what more can you do? How much more can you win? Because they put a lot of owners in before him, that's one less than him, and he's been in after them.

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36:24Shannon Sharpe:Don't get me started. Don't get me started. I'm good. Now I can speak my mind. See, I used to hold back because I was really trying to get my brother because I knew they were going to use what I said against him. But now he in. I ate. Now if it lets y 'all know how I really feel. Hey. Hey. Cause you're wrong. The way you did T.O. was absolutely wrong. The way you did Bill Belichick was wrong. Dead ass. The way you've done Mr. Kraft and the way you've done Art Modell is wrong and you know it. Yeah. They making them pay boy. How much more can I pay? I don't know, but hey, it's obvious because, you know, his accolades meets the requirements.

37:16Shannon Sharpe:I mean, obviously, we all know that Bill Belichick is the first ballot. You know, maybe due to the flategate, all the shenanigans that has transpired with the Patriots, obviously, they've rubbed them people the wrong way, man. It has, Joe. But you know what? But I think the thing, look, Coach Belichick did not make it on any reporter to do their job. He didn't make it easy. He didn't. No. I think we can. Two things can be true. He wasn't the easiest person to do your job, but he's more than worthy of being a first ballot Hall of Fame. Two things can be true. No question. And they are in this situation.

37:58Shannon Sharpe:but i don't believe now because it's egregious on the level of to that all of a sudden voters should have to reveal themselves so now i guess let me see now ocho so if we start doing this i guess everybody that voted for a candidate that my candidate didn't win i want to know everybody that voted for the other candidate now i need to see names yeah you see how ridiculous that's i'm gonna do that that's the whole point of the voting booth that's why you go into ocho Ochoa, you pull the curtain. Because nobody's supposed to see who you voted for. Or no. Now, if you want to tell, who knows? I don't know if I believe you or not because you lie.

38:34Shannon Sharpe:People lie so much now, I don't know if I believe you. Or I would never vote for him. Check. I wouldn't vote for her either. Check. I'm just saying, Ochoa. I'm just saying. But in this situation, everybody knows Coach Belichick. I like Coach Belichick. It hurts him. See, when your name came up, when the first time my name came up in 2009, I was one of the, I think 125. I got whittled down. And then I made the final 10. Made it to like the final 10, final 10. Made it to like the room of like the five because back then, Ocho, the coaches and owners winning like players. They've since changed that.

39:21Shannon Sharpe:They've since changed that. Because an owner and a contributor, they're two different things, Ocho. They ain't on no damn field. So how you go in as the equivalent of a player that actually played the game? So they changed that, and I agree with that. The next year I come back, Ocho, I got less votes the second year than I did the first year. I said, you know what? after I didn't get in, I said, if you didn't like my stats this year, you're going to hate them next year because they're not going to get any better. And the guy that's coming behind me is going to have better stats. Yeah. I said, I can't add to it.

39:56Shannon Sharpe:I said, I wish I can go back and get me another 50 catches, maybe another, you know, seven, eight touchdowns on show and go to a Super Bowl. Yeah. But there ain't nothing I can do. All I can do is just go back and look at my body of work. And don't compare me. Don't compare me against Ozzie and Kellen and John Mackey and Mike Dicker. look at everybody tight ends that played in the 90s and look how far ahead I was than them. And I played in a running scheme. Yes, sir. So I say, judge me by the 90s. Don't judge me by what Kellen and Ozzie and Dicka and Mackie and Christensen and all those guys, Dave Casper, because that's unfair.

40:34Shannon Sharpe:That's unfair to them. That's unfair to me. I say, but my resume speaks for itself. Go ask the defensive coordinators that had the game plan me and ask them what they thought of me. Ooh.

40:46Joe Johnson:There you go.

40:48Shannon Sharpe:Ask Floyd Peters. Ask Gunther Cunningham. Ask Coach Cower. Ask Coach Belichick. Ask them what they thought of me. Y 'all see, sometimes, Ocho, sometimes the antics can overshadow the plate. And, you know, look, you know me, I'm having fun. Call the National Guard. I'm talking crazy to a lot of people. Oh, yeah. But all I know, my team's won.

41:16Joe Johnson:Period. See, that's not fair, man. What? Hey, Joe. What's that? His team's won, but mine was losing.

41:26Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey, Ocho, you got to play the cards. That's it.

41:28Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, I played one hell of a hand too, Joe. You hear me? I played one hell of a hand too. Yes.

41:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Look, they didn't say we couldn't have fun while we're playing. Man, our job was to catch, block, help our team win, get the ball in the end zone. Yeah, look, in Cincinnati, you didn't have the best – you wasn't the best setup. I don't know if it was the most conducive for winning.

41:54Joe Johnson:I like it, though. I enjoy it. I understand. That's the hand you –

41:57Shannon Sharpe:Look here, if we play in space, some people, Joe, we play space. If you don't get any space, you throw the hand in. Some people play if you get face cards. You got to play the hand, even if you don't have space. Well, Ocho, you have face cards. You didn't have space, but you had to play that damn hand. And you played it well. You got a couple of books out of it. You got six pro goals. You got all pros. Yeah. Come on, Nat. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, Nat. Hey, Ochoa Wynn, look here. The only – I've never heard – tell me the time you've seen a receiver. He has the most comeback wins. The only winning that matters is quarterbacks.

42:34Shannon Sharpe:That's why they have how many wins Tom Brady have, how many wins Peyton Manning have, how many wins Pacum Homes, How many come from behind wins? They don't put that on anybody else. They don't get that title to coaches. They don't give it to tight ends, wide receivers, defensive, nothing. So only winning is tied to the quarterback. That's the only one that winnings matter to. That's what they tell you. That's what they tell you when they want to get said guy in. Now they want to keep you out.

43:03Shannon Sharpe:They dead ass wrong. They know it. Coach Belichick should have been a first ballot Hall of Famer. Absolutely. I like Coach Belichick when he's not in Coach Belichick mode. He's a really great guy to be around. I went to the Pro Bowl with him and had a conversation, sitting at the bar, talking, having a drink. I wasn't drinking at the time. I was drinking virgin, strawberry, daiquiri. Probably about 7 ,000 calories. But, you know, we at the bar having a good old time. I was working with CBS at the time, and I think it might have been. Who was the coach? I'm trying to think who the coach was. I can't even remember who the damn coach was now.

43:43Shannon Sharpe:I mean, I know Coach Belichick was the coach. I'm trying to think who the quarterbacks were.

43:51Shannon Sharpe:I can't remember. But when you get Coach Belichick away, when he's not in New England, and he's not in that focus mode, Ocho, he's great to be around. And everybody that's ever been around, every player will tell you, he's great to be around. But when he's in that mode, he's all business. different he's different different it's just like the quarterbacks pay to open up a little bit but when he get away from football he just doesn't have a good time yeah yeah all the way down yeah

44:23Joe Johnson:and it's long yeah oh yeah yeah and the funny thing about it a young is is this what i like i mean joe and i don't got to take this all the time i would love for players to stop being so pc and be themselves in front of cameras. But most of the time, depending on who you are, especially the face of the team, you have to conduct yourself a certain way. I am so happy, Joe, that I was able to not only play with Tom, but see Tom outside when that game is not rolling. I'm so happy I was able to see Peyton Manning at the Pro Bowl outside when that game is not rolling. That goddamn Bill Belichick, who I worked with all last year on Inside the NFL, I was glad to see that Bill outside of the Bill that everyone sees in front of that goddamn camera.

45:05Joe Johnson:man they ain't nothing like that in real life

45:09Shannon Sharpe:he seemed a little more open on the NFL he's more open than that at the bar

45:18Joe Johnson:Joe they nothing like that in real life and you would have to know them personally and it almost to them it does them almost a disservice where the rest of the world can't see how really dope they are because they have to be one way when the cameras motherfucking I'm sorry. When the cameras roll.

45:35Shannon Sharpe:They have to be so buttoned up because everybody's trying to get that gotcha moment with one of those guys. Yeah. Peyton, Tom, all these guys, they're really, really buttoned up when the cameras are around. But when they're just hanging out with friends and buddies or being somewhere. Hey. Funny, funny, funny. Hey, that's Tom Brady. Yeah. Funny. That's how it was when I played in Phoenix and we had a two-time MVP, Steve Nash. Y 'all know he used to go out with us, Uncle Ocho. He used to hang out with us. Steve? Amari, Quinn Richardson. Yeah. And she would be with us in the spot. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

46:13Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Good old time.

46:14Joe Johnson:You know, Joe, I know Steve a little bit. I play soccer with Steve all the time. Oh, he loves soccer. Yeah, I play soccer with Steve all the time.

46:21Shannon Sharpe:Hey, he used to, he liked playing hockey too. We came to practice one day, you know, hockey and basketball. Absolutely. It's the national pastime. Man, listen. Ocho, we came in, that man had on skates. He was out there on that ice. You should have seen Coach went crazy. Man, what is you out here doing? That man know what he doing, though. Hey, that boy be moving on that ice, man. Yeah. That's different. You a different dude. It's embarrassing. It really is. I still think the Hall of Fame is prestigious. it's the heaven for the individual sport that you play basketball, football, baseball I guess it's kind of like going into the if you're a musician, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, Ocho if you're a professional bull rider I think that's in Colorado Springs it's your football heaven it's your football mecca I remember my grandmother when I called my grandmother when I finally got the call in 2011 I called my grandma I said, hey granny she said, hey I said, granny I'm going to the Hall of Fame.

47:23Shannon Sharpe:I'll never forget. She said, what's that, baby? I said, Grady, that's where all the good players go. She said, that show lives good, son. That show good. I sure hope I'm around to see it. Because at that time, OJG had gotten really, really sick. So this was in January, beginning of February. She passed in July. So she didn't actually, you know what I'm saying. But she realized, my grandmother knew, she could not see that ceremony physically. She had to leave this place physically and go with me there spiritually because then that body wasn't going to take her. And so to hear like, ooh, that show good.

48:07Shannon Sharpe:She would always have my sister, let me find that boy on TV. My sister put the TV on because, you know, back then we were really good. So the Broncos always came on in that late window for NBC. So we always came on in the late window. It is a huge honor. It is. It is a huge honor. But there has been some damage done by some players that didn't get in that should have gotten in. And no matter what you think about T.O. And T.O. should have been a first ballot. But then you skip him again on the second? just to prove a point and make the guy go in on the third ballot? No matter what you think, I think T.O.

48:52Shannon Sharpe:is one of the three greatest receivers they ever played. I think it's Jerry, Randy, and T.O. Now, I think you can flip T.O. and Randy. I think it's universal regard. Jerry's in. For me, Jerry's in. Some people like Randy, but I think you can say, but even if you're not like Ocho and I, Keough is not getting out of the top five of receivers to ever play this game. He's just not. No, absolutely not. So with that being said, if that's not first ballot, I don't know what is. I don't. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Hell, I don't think DT – I don't think – Did DT go in on the first ballot? I don't think DT went in on the first ballot.

49:36Shannon Sharpe:Come on, bro. Did anybody watch DT from 1989 to 1999? Did anybody watch those 11 years? I got to see it up close and personal from 90 to 99. Yeah. Man, they got your boy. They got me a nominee this year. Think about Ocho. Yeah? DT had to go five times.

50:04Joe Johnson:Before he got in there?

50:07Shannon Sharpe:Anybody that played against DT, ask them. That first step, they need to stop. But see, this is what you get. Because you know what happens, Ocho, once they get away with keeping certain people out, they feel like that's a lot of power, Ocho. That's a lot of power, Joe.

50:32Joe Johnson:Hey, you know how you take your power back? hey Joe you know how you take your power back how you take it back you create your own

50:41Shannon Sharpe:say F it

50:42Joe Johnson:you create your own shoot hey I got I got me a 14 karat gold bus yeah Joe you create your own bus you create your own jacket shit what y 'all talking about oh man what you going to get

51:07Shannon Sharpe:That's crazy, man. Hey, hold on. Let me show you mine. Hold on. I don't know who's going to get this, the kids. I might have to have the kids sell this because, boy, look here. They're only one of them, Joe. The only one. You know, I got to keep them apart. I got to keep them apart. They got to do ways and everything, Joe. They hooked you up. They hooked you up, bro. There's some cancer. Where you on, Joe? What you got?

51:33Joe Johnson:Hold on. Hey, it's in the showcase. It's too heavy to bring out. I got a 14-carat gold bus like that, but it's in the showcase. I can't carry the whole thing. Do you really, old Joe? Yeah. Well, I don't. Hey, Joe, I don't play. I'm not. I'm not. Listen, them people ain't letting me in, so I had to go make my own. No, you laughing. Why you laughing? Joe, I'm not playing. I'm 14-carat gold bus. When they do my game room, you know they doing my game room for me, right?

51:58Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. So by the time we get to like sometime after Valentine's,

52:03Joe Johnson:yeah, they doing my, because you told me, you told me my appearance.

52:08Shannon Sharpe:Nah, mine, so deduct 6 ,500 from the game room. Shoot that over to me. Wait, wait, you said it was 59.

52:16Joe Johnson:How you get to 6 ,500?

52:19Shannon Sharpe:Gotta be some interest. Yeah. Gotta be, Ocho, three years.

52:22Joe Johnson:Hey, but no, this is for the show though. I need the presentation when we get on. I needed it to look good. Yes. So, but the bus, the bus is going to be in the background with all our awards and the nightcap, my nightcap sign is going to be on. Like Joe, the whole thing is going to look real nice, Joe. Yeah. The chat would really appreciate

52:41Shannon Sharpe:if you cut that nightcap sign on. Hold on.

52:44Joe Johnson:Let me see if it works. Hold on.

52:48Shannon Sharpe:It's too bright. What?

52:52Joe Johnson:Can they see it?

52:55Shannon Sharpe:Oh, it ain't bad, Joe.

52:59Joe Johnson:it's distorted though, huh?

53:00Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. I think because it's so far away, it's distorted. So do we know, do I wonder who, also Eli, we're going to talk about Eli later or we're going to talk about that? Okay. Here's the, Armando, Armando Salguero, one of the yes voters, claims there were voters in the room who voiced their concerns about Spygate before voting, Along with reinforcing the importance of voting process, the Hall released a statement stressing actions will be taken if one or multiple voters committed a violation of the selection process. The Hall did not mention Belichick by name or identify the selection process bylaws may have been broken.

53:43Shannon Sharpe:One violation for would be an example would be making a decision on a candidate based on non-football reasons. That does not, however, include Spygate. Va Gregorian of the Kansas City, Vahee Gregorian, I guess that's how you say that. I apologize. I know Gregorian. Kansas City Star became the first voter to outright confirm he voted against Belichick. He explained that he didn't vote against Belichick and Kraft so much as the other three seniors players in Shryman. Who was that? Anderson? Who? I know Roger Craig and Elsie Greenwood. but I don't know who Anderson is. Gregorian said he believed all five of the candidates were deserving, but was concerned that the three players would have to wait much longer than Belichick like many other senior candidates.

54:35Shannon Sharpe:Well, people say they wanted to put his name to it. I believe Elsie Greenwood. Look, Elsie Greenwood was not as heralded as Mean Joe Green, Jack Lambert, Jack Hamm, Mel Blunt. but go back and look at those that steel current defense and look at the guy with the high top yellow shoes on Joe go back and look now yeah I'm old enough to remember Elsie Greenwood I remember those every Super Bowl they won especially in the late like 76 77 78 79 yeah Elsie was what was he i mean they got i mean think about it they got joe green hall of fame ham lambert hall of fame uh mel blunt hall of fame donnie shell hall of fame so you got five hall of famers right there and you got lc you had andy russell who was a perennial all pro and pro bowl player lc greenwood was a pro bowl player so it's not very many times that you got seven all pros and Pro Bowl players on a defense at a given time.

55:50Shannon Sharpe:And you're definitely not going to have five Hall of Famers in their prime together. Now, you might have a Hall of Famer come later in his career, but they were all drafted to the Steelers. The Steelers drafted five Hall of Famers in 74. Well, they drafted four. Donnie Shell was an undrafted free agent. Len Swan, Jack Lambert, John Stallworth, and Mike Webster. Their first four picks, Ocho, in the Hall of Fame. And then Donnie Shell was the undrafted player. He's the fifth player. So one draft class on a team. I think we got five in our 90 draft class, Ochoa, 250, 40 players. They got five of their first 12, 13, 14 picks.

56:36Wow.

56:38Shannon Sharpe:You ain't going to ever see that again. Hell no. Bill Nunn, Radio Raheem, that's his dad. With Bill Nunn, he was the guy to scout him, yes, for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes. Oh, that's dope. Eli Manning, Ocho, will have to wait at least one more year. The two-time Super Bowl winning MVP reportedly did not receive enough votes to the election into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It's the second year of eligibility. His career, 117 wins, 117 losses, and a sub-star passing stats to make it tough to judge a Hall of Fame resume. You see? A lot of times people just want to put all the credentials on.

57:20Shannon Sharpe:Oh, he won an MVP. He was a Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl.

57:28Hold on.

57:29Shannon Sharpe:So this is the second time he didn't get skipped?

57:34Shannon Sharpe:Wow. Yep. It's tough because, hold on. Hold on. Jim Plunkett won two Super Bowls. He ain't in. Number one overall draft pick in 1970, if I'm not mistaken. Look that up. I think Jim Plunkett was 1970. He's still not in? No, Jim Plunkett's not in because I think Archie went second. I think Plunkett was one, Archie was second in 1970.

58:06Damn.

58:10Shannon Sharpe:What you thinking, Ocho? Right call. Eli should be in. He should have to wait.

58:16Joe Johnson:I think it's the right call it's the right call

58:20Shannon Sharpe:he was drafted first overall

58:21Joe Johnson:he's gonna get in you heard me on he did

58:30Shannon Sharpe:what did he do in 1970 went first overall didn't Archie go second

58:44Shannon Sharpe:He was 71. Right. So 71, him and Archie. Two. Hold on. How many times did Kurt Warner have to wait? Because Kurt is a two-time league MVP, an offensive player of the year, a Super Bowl MVP, and he had the three most passing yards in Super Bowl history before Tom broke him. And he had to wait. Yeah. Yeah.

59:11Joe Johnson:I mean, they're going to make Eli wait. He's going to get in. He's going to get in regardless. Yeah, he's going to get in.

59:22Shannon Sharpe:Joe. I don't know, Joe. Like I said, I used to – like I said, after they made DT wait five times, I was like, I don't know what a Hall of Famer is. I don't. I don't. They switch it up. Johnny Randall had to wait. I know people look at Johnny's antics and him talking trash and him grunting and doing all that stuff. He was hell. Johnny Randall was hell. He was the real deal. Undecided, but Joe, he would kick his ass. you can go yeah hey hey when y 'all got into the league Uncle Ocho was being in the Hall of Fame ever on y 'all mind or just playing the game having fun

1:00:12Joe Johnson:Joe you see how I played the game I wasn't thinking nothing about that jacket boy

1:00:18Shannon Sharpe:Uncle what you thinking about it Joe in 1991 we played in the Hall of Fame game I went into the Hall of Fame and looked around I had no idea. 20 years later, I got a bust in there. Yeah. Bro, I'm a seventh-round draft. Yeah. All I'm trying to do is make a team. I'm just trying to make the team, Joe. You don't think about the Hall of Fame. The Hall of Fame never came on my radar until Mark Kisner said, hey, at the rate you go in a couple more years like this, you're going to be a Hall of Fame candidate. I say, you think so? He's like, I know so. that was the first time the Hall of Fame even crossed my mind.

1:01:00Shannon Sharpe:That was in, like, 97.

1:01:05Shannon Sharpe:I agree. Hey, because, look, when I came in, I just – hey, I wanted to make sure I belonged. I wanted to show that I belonged, that I could play in the NBA. It wasn't until about 15, 14, 15 years when they was like, man, look, you almost had 20 ,000 points. It ain't but a few guys who got that, man. you you might get a chance to get in there but i never i never thought about getting in the hall of fame i think uh since my career has been over yeah i thought about it but while i was playing uncle ocho yeah man it never crossed my mind bro i was just out there having fun enjoying the game

1:01:39Joe Johnson:hold on joe you got a nominee for the hall of fame boy yeah i got a nominee this year that's my job hey oh joe

1:01:50Shannon Sharpe:i'm living right man it's a lot of good things happening for you boy over here yeah hey joe

1:01:55Joe Johnson:hey joe when you get it when you get it bumping to be there what hey boy say less they don't

1:02:00Shannon Sharpe:threaten me with no good yeah yeah yeah i ain't never been to springfield man so i i've gone up there yeah oh that that's what all basketball hall of fame at yeah springfield massachusetts baseball's cooper town new york and obviously football is a canton ohio hey boy joe i got a

1:02:15Joe Johnson:I got a suit for that boy Joe. I can't wait for it. You got something for it? Hey look, I got a suit for that boy.

1:02:20Shannon Sharpe:From the looks of it, it look like I'm gonna be in the nightcap hall of fame too. Yeah, yeah. With me, you. With me, you.

1:02:27Joe Johnson:With me, you see that? You see how you do with your whole show? You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm talking about? Hey, we done created the monster. Don't do that. Hey, listen, listen, listen. Don't do that. What y 'all want from me? What y 'all want from me? Come on, man. Just a little respect. Just a little respect.

1:02:40Shannon Sharpe:I'm being respectful. I'm just keeping it 100. I'm just saying from how things going right now, currently. Okay. Yeah. Hey, I'm just saying, Ocho, I don't know what you're going to do, but I'm going to put a stop to this next taping.

1:02:54Joe Johnson:Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, Joe. You getting a little too excited because we haven't done ping pong. We haven't played pool.

1:03:01Shannon Sharpe:We haven't shot dark.

1:03:03Joe Johnson:We ain't shot dark. There's so many things we haven't done yet, and you got a little too much dip on your chip to be talking all that. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe.

1:03:12Shannon Sharpe:All I want to do when at the end of the show, when he introduces, I want him to be like, and still.

1:03:20Shannon Sharpe:That ain't what happened, Joe.

1:03:23Joe Johnson:Hey. Oh, man. Hell no, Joe. Hey, Joe. Well, okay. Man, just joking here. Hey, Joe, you putting the guy... Hey, Joe, you putting the eggs before the chicken now. You putting the eggs before the horse now.

1:03:38Shannon Sharpe:I see what I'm up against. The horse has to pull the cart, so he's always going to be in front. No, I said he putting the carriage before the horse. I know, the carriage. Yes, you said the carriage or the cart? I said the carriage. Yes, yes, you're right. Ocho, you got one right. Okay.

1:03:59Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, I know what I'm talking about. I'll be using that sometimes.

1:04:02Shannon Sharpe:I mean, normally it's the cart. I mean, people don't say, but we get what you're saying. You Ocho.

1:04:06Joe Johnson:so we know horse and carriage horse yeah you know the song yeah okay my bad my bad my bad my bad yeah joe hey tighten up coming coming coming again hey yeah i'm locked in i'm locked in don't y 'all don't worry about nothing now hey the funny thing about it is don't too many people don't too many people out trash talk me and the fact that you keep on egging on like you really

1:04:31Shannon Sharpe:like that i don't like that joe well at the end of the day at the end of the day oh joe it can't be people one winner out of all us. It ain't like all us can win and celebrate. So the one who do win, but I ain't doing a whole lot of talking, Joe. Oh, but you acted a fool on the golf joint. You acted - He did, he did, he did. You really set me off. You really set me off because you acted a fool on that golf thing. You acting a fool. Ocho, you could attest to this. Joe the one that talk about, oh yeah, I already know, I already know I got this one. Before we even started, Joe, that was you. That was you you said that

1:05:17Shannon Sharpe:Hey, no, we don't see me ma 'am always have my a game with We just got here. I'll be you know, I'll be you don't even know the rules of the game. Oh, oh Once I find out what it's gonna be. I know y 'all can't oh you got too much muscle and I know oh, you ain't no building to go

1:05:36Shannon Sharpe:It's all good. It's all good. Hey, I wasn't too far off now. I wasn't too far off. But what did I tell you when he got to sudden death? I said, it's over, Joe. I don't need me one putt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Ocho, Ocho, you gotta fight back. On a palm tree. They don't call me on a palm tree for nothing.

1:05:56Joe Johnson:Okay, there you go. Hey, Joe, you got to understand, Joe. I had on my clothes to go to dinner, Joe. So that's the only reason. You were spiffed down. You were spiffed down.

1:06:05Shannon Sharpe:I took one putt and laid down. I said, I'm laying. I'm tired. I'm sitting up. Look, look, look.

1:06:16Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, y 'all, y 'all talking about man, man, look like it hurt. I won. Michael Jordan had the flu. How did Michael Jordan look during the flu? Did he not drop 37?

1:06:32Joe Johnson:Yeah, he really.

1:06:34Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you ain't look like you were hurting to me the way you were rolling out. Then look, I ain't do the centipede. Next one, I'm going to do the centipede. You can't do the centipede. I do centipede. I might break dance.

1:06:49Shannon Sharpe:I got some for y 'all. Hey, I might be turbo and boogaloo shrimp. I got some for y 'all. Colors. What you got, Ocho? You ain't got nothing for nobody.

1:07:00Joe Johnson:Hey, when we get back out there. When we get back out there. Okay. I'm ready. I'm sitting. Boy, how y 'all gonna out talk me? And I'm the original trash talker. Y 'all got to go find a nightcap outside.

1:07:14Shannon Sharpe:For you guys that's in the chat that don't know what Ocho and Joe and myself are talking about, go to nightcap outside. We had some games. We were in New York at the Lawn Club. And, you know, we had some games. And, you know, everybody, you know how everybody get to talking. I can do this. I can do that. Hey, and we're going to shoot dice, Ocho. Ooh, ooh. I know y 'all want that. I want all that. Who you talking to? Give the fuck, baby. Who you talking to? Hold on.

1:07:43Joe Johnson:What are we talking about?

1:07:43Shannon Sharpe:We playing C-Lo? We playing C-Lo. We playing C-Lo. We playing C-Lo. We playing C-Lo. We playing C-Lo. We playing C-Lo. Two dice.

1:07:47Joe Johnson:Two dice. Oh, yeah. Y 'all done. Y 'all definitely done. Because that's what I do. Hey, Joe, I don't know if you shoot dice. You shoot dice?

1:07:54Shannon Sharpe:Really?

1:07:55Joe Johnson:I can show you better than I can tell you. Yeah, all right.

1:07:57Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to hit a lick.

1:08:01Joe Johnson:Okay, then we'll go back. All right. Bring your money. I don't need no excuses.

1:08:06Shannon Sharpe:I need to bring a little bankroll or a big bankroll. We don't need but a thousand. Whoever had the most money at the end, that's who win. Okay, there we go. Say last. Say last. Y 'all already know. And I get to win some money. I get to win some money, message you, boys. Hey, because I already know that Emmys Smith gonna break the game up. What number Emmys Smith? That's what you want. Okay. Everybody jump on that 10 or 4. Yeah, little Joe. Hey, little Joe, I'm back though, little Joe all day long. Speed limit, that 55 will break up game up quick. Because everybody want to jump on that 10 or 4 with both feet.

1:08:48Shannon Sharpe:Hey, y 'all doing the whole thing.

1:08:49Joe Johnson:Hey, boy, you boys in trouble. Y 'all doing a whole lot of talking for people that are amateurs that shooting dice. That nine. How are you figuring out?

1:08:56Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all are amateurs that shooting dice. What Jesse James carry? 45. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Don't nobody move but me. Don't nobody move but me. Joe, stay right where y 'all. Ocho, don't try to make anything sudden. Let me get this money right quick. Oh, yeah. This is gonna be a layup, fella. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, sir. I like that. Y 'all already know my point. My point nine. now my point now nina rouse nina rouse the fire 54 died in 63 what's my point joe yeah all right born in 54 died in 63. i would get that jacket above you oh hey keep that same energy if i could fit that jacket ocho head on the other day boy you can you can fit it you can fit it joe

1:09:50Joe Johnson:You can fit it. You can fit it. You can fit it. It was the XL. You can fit it.

1:09:53Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. I would've got that up off. But that's OK. Your day coming though, Joe. Ocho, he can't win nothing else. You see how he talk reckless?

1:10:06Joe Johnson:Hey, you know why he not going to win nothing else? Because he doing too much talking now.

1:10:10Shannon Sharpe:Man, listen, listen.

1:10:11Joe Johnson:Hey, Ocho, that's not what you do. You ain't no talker.

1:10:14Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Ocho, I really did this for bread and meat, man. If I didn't win, I didn't eat. That's what I'm trying to say. You won't eat that day. Yeah. You going to be sitting in the corner. I can't wait. You going to be sitting in the corner, Ocho. Man, let your boy hold something. That's all it takes. Nah. It don't take me one little thing just to set me off. And see, Unc set me off and they go. And y 'all couldn't turn me off then. I was on. Hey, Ocho. You see how Tracy Barkey did on board? When Joe said, let me get something.

1:10:47Joe Johnson:No. Nope. Yeah. All that talking. Remember this.

1:10:54Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Chad, we got another episode for y 'all coming up. There you go. Look at it. You see it, Mocho? I just said they're going to be entertained. They're going to be entertained. That's what they're here today. They want to be entertained, guys. This is what we're here for. All right. I got hurt. You got hurt? hey boy hey when i tell you when i tell you guys my knees my glutes almost pulled my glute pull it with y 'all hey hey hey chat i'm gonna i'm gonna say one thing i ain't gonna bring it up no more okay i'm gonna leave it alone but that movie the rip boy ain't got nothing on what i did

1:11:35Shannon Sharpe:you see chat hey hey you always talk about man hey oh man you need to chill on oh all right so Man, you need to do this. Look at what he's doing now. You see what I'm talking about?

1:11:45Joe Johnson:Okay. Hey, see what the problem is? We done created a monster. We done created a monster.

1:11:53Shannon Sharpe:It's dropping Tuesday after the Super Bowl, Ocho.

1:11:57Joe Johnson:Okay, okay, okay. What a perfect timing. Hey, make me look good, Nat.

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