Nightcap Hour 1: Ocho’s Bengals put BTA on the Ravens in Burrow’s RETURN + Dak SHINES in WIN over Chiefs

22:19Want the full story? Take a listen. Hedy, she starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him? I mean, I watch The Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator. Right. She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well. Give us examples. I know. They do get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings. And she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like what the two would look like as a plane.

22:59And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy Lamarr and Billie Jean King. Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Goodbye. I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

23:20Shannon Sharpe:It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. If we got clear facts, maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News, reporting for America. Discover a spectacular island destination with crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze. Baja Mar, located in Nassau, Bahamas, offers your choice of three luxury hotels, over 45 fine dining and nightlife venues, John Batiste's all-new jazz club, the Caribbean's most luxurious casino, and one-of-a-kind experiences for the entire family, like our 15-acre tropical water park, wildlife sanctuary, world-class golf course, and so much more.

24:10Visit Baja Mar.com today. Trudevius White. Trudevius White. That's my boy. He's been playing some good balls since he came off that Achilles tail. I'm excited. I'm excited for him. I'm excited for that matchup. So I can't wait to see that. I understand. We understand the greatness of Josh Allen and his supporting cast, you know, Shakira and them boys, man. But, hey, man, we don't even see it. We don't even see it. You know, I know they just signed Brandon Cooks, too. We don't even see you either. We be cooking. We don't even see nothing, Nick Daniel. And I told Eric Ball. You know Eric Ball, right?

24:45Yeah. I told Eric Ball. I said, listen, Eric. Y 'all give me a sideline pass to Buffalo, please. I don't care how cold it is. I don't care. You see, I was a good luck charm for the night. I was a good luck charm for the night. I've been talking trash about us all week and about what we was going to do to the Baltimore Ravens in a respectful way now. In a respectful way. As you can see, I've been showing grace and respect while I've been talking trash. No, no cursing out. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

25:09Shannon Sharpe:Nah, you've been saying, how many times you done said butt ass? How many times you done said I told you what we was going to do? Okay, but that's in a respectful manner as opposed to the way other people are. No, you were cursing early on. I know. I'm cursing to add emphasis. To add emphasis. It's like when you cook Thanksgiving dinner, you add season to your food. That's what cursing does for me. I call it a sentence enhancer. That's all. I mean no disrespect. This is with all love and respect to all my Ravens fans. Let me boast. Let me feel good about myself. And, Butter, don't you try to hide on Twitter either, Butter.

25:42Huh? Hey, you met Buddy yet? You ain't met Buddy yet, huh?

25:46Shannon Sharpe:Uh-uh. Oh, yeah. You got to see his Twitter, man. It's lovely. I'm talking about all things Ravens. Of course, he does other content related to football and basketball and stuff. He's a really good dude, really good dude. So he's been talking trash, too. So that's why I keep calling his name. But I'm going to see you in a minute. I hope you're in a goddamn chat. Anyone else that's a Ravens fan, I say this. With all due respect and love, we won the game tonight, and I'm going to see you all in two weeks. We won the game tonight, and I'm going to see you all in two weeks. I'm also confused by the Ravens game plan you didn't like it Derrick Henry no Derrick Henry breaks off the long run for the touchdown and I don't really see him until late third uh the beginning of the third quarter and because I see uh Mitchell and I see everybody else running the except Derrick Henry maybe maybe I missed it I mean we were we were good we were doing a good job of containing Derrick Henry most of the night outside, excuse me, outside of that long run though.

26:43Shannon Sharpe:I mean, but he had 10 carries for 60 yards. He's averaging six yards a carry. Yeah. So even if you take, even if you take, so he had 32 yards on nine carries, I think, yeah. But you know how he is. He's a guy that the more touches you give him, the harder he runs. I'm also confused. They, the Bengals come with a zero blitz and you got an end breaking right call, you take the top off it. You had to know it's going to be zero blitz because you max protected it. Why else would you check to a max protection if you're not thinking of zero bomb blitz? And then they run Zay Flowers on a dagger route.

27:27Shannon Sharpe:Why would you run him on a dagger route and there's nobody in the middle of the field? You know what's funny too, Unc? That's universal for every team because when there was zero bliss for us and that safety and that backup was coming, I had to slant. Now it's up to the quarterback to say, listen, I'm going to hold the goddamn ball one more tick. I'm going to get my ass killed but change the route up and just go. Yes. I got the whole field to work with. Oh, absolutely because there's nothing back there. Right. I mean, the goddamn DBs in no man's land but that's something that the offensive coordinator has to agree with because you hold that ball too long you get Lamar killed but here's the thing though Ocho you already in gun you can retreat it's not like it used to be back in the day when you under center and you're checking and you had the back you already away from the center so you already got distance between you and the nearest rusher right now when you retreat you can just keep retreating and put it up because you're not worried about no the safety or anybody from backside coming into play you can run him on a go you can run him on a post cross his face whatever anytime we saw zero blitz and they check the coverage hey several would always say take the top off take the top off okay and i and i'm like and i'm looking like bro what are y 'all doing why would you run a dagger out why would you run around against zero coverage for a 15 20 yard completion when you can have a 40 yard touchdown it just made no sense to me yeah you were right but the whole game plan tonight and maybe that had more to do with Cincinnati and how they got after Lamar and how they did a, uh, uh, after that long run, you're right.

29:07Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, they didn't, uh, Mitchell had an 18 yard run. Lamar had an 11 yard scramble, but it was just the turnover. You, you're not overcoming that because we already know the Ravens defense is not fortified like it used to be. And they did a great job for the most part, Ocho, cause they kept them out of the end zone, but you could only do that for so long before you know what the levy burst and the now here come back it was a wrap and the funny thing too long you got to remember and those that are in the chat that are listening you have to remember when it comes to these division games you know you know each other very well you understand the tendencies and what you like to do on based on down and distance and you know for mason recognition even though you try to you try to change things up to make it look different but the bulk of what your offense is is what your offense is regardless of what you over and over repeatedly based on what you know and what you'd like to do, it always stayed the same.

30:02The only thing that changes is the formations and where the ball is, whether it's in the middle of the field or the left hash to the right hash. But what you'd like to do will always be your offense, which is why I think hypothetically speaking, if there weren't five turnovers, this game would have been extremely close. It would have come down to the team or the quarterback that makes the fewest mistakes.

30:22Shannon Sharpe:That's normally how it comes down when you've got evenly matched teams. Yes. Because it's not like the Ravens defense are world beaters this year, Ocho, like they have in years past. Last year they were okay, but they weren't great. This year they've really fallen off. I'm looking at Marlon Humphrey and their coverage at their times. He's getting beat by a tight end. He's getting beat by Gesicki. Yeah. He's not even close. They're running like five and he's underneath. He's not even close to Chase. Yeah. And he got help over the top. I mean, guys are like – I'm like, what is this? I think I know you talk about when they were doubling, they were running 50 miles.

30:58Yes, yes. They tried the inside out. The underneath guy is not even close. That's what a weak spot is. The weak spot is exactly the hard seven. The weak spot is because the goddamn safety has to stay over top and the corner has underneath. What do you do? You split the gap

31:22Shannon Sharpe:and run the deep out. But hold on, Ocho. Where you going? You ain't worried about him beating you deep. So all I got to do, I'm playing up underneath. I'm in your hip pocket. You jump inside. Yeah. So now I'm just in a trail position. Whatever you do, I'm there. He wasn't even – they weren't even close. Because he was banking on him running that goddamn dig. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. I'm just like, bro, they just like – That defense, they left a lot to be desired tonight, even more so than normal. But when your offense turns the ball over five times, it makes the defense look even worse than what they played.

32:06Shannon Sharpe:Because I don't think they played bad tonight, given the position that the offense put them in. The offense put them in some terrible positions. Really, really bad positions. And they held them to field goals for the luck they have. they made him kick four field goals in the first half oh joe yeah yeah and then they gave up 14 in the third quarter yeah and that had me nervous that had me nervous the fact that we were able to drive the ball so i'm like but goddamn joe joe joe you cooking and i i talked i talked to joe i think it might have been uh early early in the fourth quarter you know they had switched sides and i was right i said joe what but do you realize what you're doing right now you see i feel like i'm cooking he said nah nah i'm not playing like i should i went but god damn joe well when you off that long i mean you i i mean he looked good on some throws but you got to realize he's been off for 10 weeks 11 weeks and to come back it'll take him some time probably by the third game yeah yeah i mean he'll get his time and his fighting senses will start tingling he did a great job of moving by creating time and finding guys i thought the guys i thought the guy offensively They played really well.

33:15Shannon Sharpe:I think, you know, late in the ballgame, Mocho, I thought they got really conservative. He's like, you know what, a field goal is good here. We don't need to take any unnecessary risk. I understand that, but why does every team do that, Unc? Why, listen, let's make a statement. Let's make a statement, you know? I mean, listen, I talked to Zach Taylor going into the tunnel after the game. I'm like, Zach, great game. I love it. I'm going to see you in Buffalo. But I'm thinking to myself on the sideline, it's five minutes to go. we have a chance to score we inside the 20 we're in the red zone let's be aggressive run the ball you run the ball yeah yeah hold on and then we run the ball purposely in the a in the b gap knowing you ain't gonna go nowhere you know you're not gonna go nowhere like what's the point you're right you're right i saw that and i i think he's thinking like you know what as long as long as we don't get a give a turnover or get a scoop and score a pick six They can't move the goal.

34:09Shannon Sharpe:Against the way our defense is playing tonight, you know, he got pressure. They pressured the hell out of Lamar Jackson more than normally. He had on the interception that Knight got, he had Mark Andrews coming wide ass open, but likely caught. The D lineman pushed him back, got his hand up and got tipped, and, you know, that ended the drive right there. But I think, but, you know, Lamar didn't play well. We can attest it. We can say that. But I think it might have had more to do with Cincy's defense than he eating too much or him still not recover from that hamstring. And another thing, another thing, I know some of my homeboys down in Cincinnati watching.

34:47I know we have a lot of Cincinnati fans in the chat as well. I want you all to congratulate and be boisterous the same way you guys want Zach Taylor fired. And you complain about Al Golden. This is the game. I want y 'all to praise him just as loud as the disrespect was when things weren't going well. So I need to clap for Zach Taylor and I need to clap for Al Golden and his defensive play calling tonight and what Zach was able to do with us offensively because we put B to A. Huh? How you feeling?

35:19Shannon Sharpe:You did. Y 'all did. I mean, you know, hey, there's nothing, you know. I'm sure they're rejoicing in Cincinnati. They don't have to eat chili. They can eat turkey and dressing. Hey, can you do me a favor? Can you apologize for the disrespect? Absolutely not. Y 'all still 4-8. So you're not going to apologize? No. What's the Broncos record? Who? Oh, no. We talked about the record. Don't do that on. I got two teams. I got two teams. Y 'all know I got two teams. I've been to have two teams. Oh, hold on. Your team don't play until Sunday. Okay. We still 9-2. So, hey, you need the focus. You got the focus now.

35:54And then what did we do to y 'all? Did we put belt to y 'all? Hold on, young fella. Hold on, young fella. Let's focus. your team and don't forget we had we had Jake Brown playing right if I'm not mistaken we played y 'all we had Jake from State Farm we still gonna put if we had if Joe if Joe Burrow was playing you guys would have lost that game let's stop that

36:14Shannon Sharpe:hey that defense are relentless that's a defense we come get you I mean you be you be in a defense that's unrelenting we still have a top three quarterback in NFL when you when you're playing against us that makes it even better when we put him on the ground like six or seven times He wasn't available. He wasn't available. Good thing. But you know what? Don't worry about it. We'll see y 'all in two weeks. And the fact that you don't want to apologize, I'm going to tell you something my grandma used to say in church all the time. Every tongue that rise and talk, you know what? I ain't going to say the whole thing.

36:45I ain't going to say the whole thing. I ain't going to say the whole thing. Hey, Chad, I'm glad y 'all here. I appreciate y 'all for showing up. I'm sure all y 'all are probably rooting for the Bengals right now. And I love y 'all and thank you for the support. I appreciate you.

36:58Shannon Sharpe:On the third carry of the night, Derrick Henry passed NFL legend Jim Brown on the all-time career rushing list, Ocho. So congratulations. I think he's number 11 right now, right? He's almost in the top 10. All-time? Yeah. How many more years do you think he can play? Well, he ain't catching Emmitt, so he ain't going to play that many more years. They would have to be a buddy-buddy system for anybody to catch Emmitt Smith or catch a Frank Gore. Who's number two? Frank Gore. Wait, I thought Frank was three. Who's two? Frank Gore,$16 ,000. Oh, yeah, Walter got$16 ,000. What,$800? Okay, yeah, Walter Payton, then Frank Gore.

37:44God damn, Walter Payton got$16 ,000?

37:46Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Jesus Christ. Frank Gore got 16 ,000. And then it's Barry Forth or Fifth. Did anybody pass, Barry? Barry Forth. Yeah. Frank Gore, please. Barry Forth. 8-2-5. Chris Martin, 6-7. Jerome, better. 8-9. Tony Dorsett. So he got an outside chance of catching Tony D. Because I think Tony Dorsett got like 12 ,700. So he has an outside chance of catching him this year, right? Yeah. He's under 400. Yeah. I don't think people understand to be able to get to 16 ,000 yards, how long you have to play and how much wear and tear that is. Oh, yeah. A running back's body? Mm-hmm. And when you consider all the carries that he had in high school, all the carries that he had in college, and all the carries that he's had now in the NFL, that's a lot.

38:38Shannon Sharpe:Nobody, not even Emmitt, with all the yards he has, has had as many carries as Derrick Henry. So for Henry to be playing as well as he's playing with damn near 5 ,000 carries in high school, another 2 ,500 in college, and now you've probably got another 2 ,000, 2 ,500 in the NFL. And you know what? For the most part of his career, too, despite those many carries, he's been healthy. Yeah. Except for that one year. Yeah, that one time. He's been healthy. Oh, that's dope, man. Congratulations, Derrick Henry. The Bengals' remaining schedule at Bills, Ravens at home, at Dolphins, Cardinals and Browns at home so things are looking but the game the Bills is the game Ocho yeah I don't think I don't think you guys can make it if you don't beat the Bills what you mean we win the division the Bills I'm saying I don't think but here's the thing I don't know hold on who the Pittsburgh play tomorrow because I think tomorrow what you guys you four and six tomorrow's Friday I mean Sunday Sunday okay Steelers play the Bills So you better be rooting for the Bills.

39:48Yeah, yeah.

39:49Shannon Sharpe:You better be rooting for the Bills. You know what's funny? If I'm not mistaken, I think the Steelers have lost the last two, right? The Steelers have lost the last two. You know what? They're probably not going to lose to the Bills. They're probably not going to lose to the Bills. I don't understand. I don't know what it is. It's just about the football gods and the way football works. I don't know what it is. And I guarantee you, Chad, listen to me. I guarantee you, I'm not saying that the Steelers are just that good, but just the way the game of football, just the way it goes. I don't know what it is.

40:21I guarantee you the Steelers beat the Bills. I can feel it.

40:25Shannon Sharpe:I just don't see that happening. Where's that game, in Pittsburgh or Buffalo?

40:33Oh, I can't wait to talk about these Cowboys. Huh? It's in Pittsburgh. I mean, listen, Josh Allen can play home or away now. It don't matter where you're at. For sure. But I just think they have the home field advantage for some reason. Copenhagen's spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco. Made for welders. Stuck behind masks. More mechanics stuck on a fused spark plug.

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42:16But incredible innovator. Right. She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well. Give us examples. I know. They do get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings. And she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy Lamarr and Billie Jean King.

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44:26Shannon Sharpe:The Cowboys beat the Chiefs 31-28. The Cowboys have won three straight for the first time since 2023. Dak Prescott, league-leading fourth 300-yard game, puts the Cowboys above.500 for the first time since week five of last season. The Cowboys, in back-to-back weeks, just beat both teams that were in the Super Bowl in a span of four days. Dak Prescott, 27-39, 320, two touchdowns, one interception. CeeDee Lamb on nine targets had seven catches, a buck 12, and a touchdown. George Pickens was his sensational self, although he did not get the ball into the end zone. He had six catches for 88 yards.

45:06Shannon Sharpe:Jake Ferguson had five for 36. Pickens did fumble, but Kavon Turpin jumped on it. I think, look, we understand the potency of the Cowboys offense, but today it was about the defense. Jadavion Clowney had two sacks. I thought they did a great job of putting pressure on Mahomes. Mahomes had to make some hell of a throws. Some of those throws, like, they're not more than five quarterbacks that could have made some of those throws that Mahomes was making under the duress in which he was under. So I think the biggest thing, getting overshone back, has really, really helped this defense because he can cover.

45:48Shannon Sharpe:He can come with pressure. He's a really good football player. And coming off the injury that he came off of last year and to come back and to be as disruptive as he is, Ocho, that young man can play. He has a very, very bright future. But Dak Prescott, there's only one quarterback that I can definitively say playing better than Dak Prescott, and that's Matthew Stafford. that's the only quarterback that I'm willing to say right now is definitively playing better than one Dakota Prescott is Matthew Stafford Dak has been sensational the last three games yeah he had a pick, got one pick, got some pressure in his face on his first drive but other than that he was sensational today, making throws, giving guys the opportunity to make plays I thought he played unbelievable today when you think about it too I think most of the people obviously pundits and analysts, those that are supposed to be professionals and experts, all of them had the Chiefs to win.

46:42Mostly everybody had the Chiefs to win. But the funny thing about it is tonight's game with the Bengals and the Ravens, the one thing that stood out is what nobody would guess. It was our defense. It was our defense that won us the game. It has always been the Achilles heel and the Wolves for the Dallas Cowboys. It's been their defense. And what we're able to do. The defense looked good. So those trades are starting to look good. The Kenny Walker trade, the Quentin Williams trade, had getting Logan Wilson and collectively as a group in its totality of playing really good football, especially against not a Super Bowl winning team, a playoff team, a team that's always in contention every single year, despite them being 5-5 or 6-5, whatever the record is.

47:24Shannon Sharpe:6-6 now. 6-6. They're not the same team of old, obviously. No. And it's mainly on the defensive side of football, Ocho. They can't pressure the quarterback like they once could. Chris Jones is still a good player, but he can't dominate a game like he once could. He takes himself out of plays. He jumped around the block, and now that he has a quick-hitting play, the safety doesn't feel it, and now the running back hits his head on the goalpost. There are far too many of those plays. If they bring pressure, now you isolate your secondary one-on-one. There are a lot of penalties called today. I mean, it seems like every time Dak went back to pass, They were calling penalties.

48:08Shannon Sharpe:McDuffie. McDuffie just seemed tentative today to me. I don't know if there's something wrong. Maybe it was just those guys put the fear of God into a lot of people. But he's tentative. He's normally a willing tackler. Tackler. I just didn't see it today. Ten penalties for Buck 19 for the Chiefs. The Cowboys had seven for 50. There was only one turnover in the game. The time of possession was very close. the total plays was close. Obviously, Dallas had 457 yards, almost 100 more yards total drive. But the biggest difference, Ocho, the Chiefs couldn't get them off the field on third down. Cowboys was 9 of 16 on third down.

48:51Shannon Sharpe:They got them in third down a bunch. They just couldn't get them off the field. Yeah, and you know also a lot of people, hey, C.D. Lamb, I see you. I see you cooking. That's what you do. That's what you do. Shottie said, listen, I don't care about what happened last game. I know the drops happened. You know, it affected the game. We're going to do everything we can to make sure he gets his confidence back, and we're going to feed him. We're going to feed him again. He had 11 targets. He caught nine in things. Rhythm. Caught 11, caught 7. Oh, it was 7? Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad. Hey, that goddamn George Pickens, man.

49:30Shannon Sharpe:He's phenomenal. If he had scored on that one He heard of that guy Ocho If he had scored on that one I would have turned the TV off I was thinking the same thing I don't need to see no more I don't need to see no more He's a top He's a top five talent Right? When he puts it all together When he puts it all together And focuses on just the game itself You can still have fun You can still have that edge that makes you NFL young boy. You can still have that edge, but just know what line not to cross and just teeter it just a little bit. That's what you get when he's been with the Cowboys so far. He's phenomenal.

50:16Shannon Sharpe:I mean, he can make tough contestants catches. He's tremendous running after the catch. A big body. He's physical. He's focused. You know what's funny? You know what's funny? You've seen him in person yet? No. Man, the man, every bit of six-fold. Oh, yeah. He look big on television. He don't look like a Julio, like that side. But you can tell he's on the taller side. He tall, he tall, he tall as hell. So, I mean, just what he's able to do at his height, you know, as far as his route running, but what he's able to do when he get the goddamn ball in his hands. He's sensational in that. He ran a slam route, and I ain't seen this in a long time.

50:55Most of the time you see it in college because, you know, everyone doesn't react as fast. You catch a slant, and you reverse back out. Peel out, peel out. Peel back out. Man, that doesn't happen in the NFL because people close the gap so bad.

51:08Shannon Sharpe:Them linemen normally hitting you in the back of your head. Back of your head, get one or the other. I'm like, man, this man I hit cut. No fool. Ocho, if you look at – because I thought Kansas City offensively, I thought they played well. Rasheed Rice dropped a huge third down and gave him the ball back. They end up – because, you know, Mahomes had started to get a rhythm, and then making some plays. And I was like, ah, that third down. And we're talking about this same thing happening in Detroit with Jamison Williams. It was a little tougher catch for Jamison because with that kind of speed and they throw that ball on your back here, and you try to hope, it's hard.

51:46Shannon Sharpe:It's hard. Excuse me, but I thought Rasheed Rice, that drop on third down was huge. They ended up having a punt. And it gave the Cowboys the ball back. And I think they ended up getting a field goal out of him, if I'm not mistaken. I didn't jot it down but if you look at Kansas City defense, Chad, and I think y 'all agree this is not the same defense because Ocho, when they bring pressure you sacrifice the back end I mean George Pickett ran the same route slant, this corner is playing slightly outside, why are you going for a head fake outside when you're already out there Ocho, you already Ocho, you already splitting the difference, you already there Yeah, and you know the most of the times when it comes to depending on who the receiver is the corner ain't going for that That the outside fake be but because it's pickings and what he's put on film so far You follow him for the first move every time cuz you're not confident Bingo watch watch Stingley Bingo 10 watch those top a They do all that the first day to do ha ha.

52:53Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. They stab it one way or the other To keep the up. All this right here, you ain't moving. You ain't gaining no ground, Ocho. I'm concerned once you start to gain ground. Once you close the cushion. But if I'm here, let's just say I line up two yards off you. And Ocho, you doing all this. You ain't gaining the ground. You're ready to place. You're going to be tired, but you ain't going nowhere. So once you start to come up field and try to close that cushion, I'm going here. I'm going here. Yeah, and the funny thing about it is, most of the time, all that is, I call it a feeler. I want to feel where you're at and continue to keep that distance between us so it keeps me in position to make a play no matter what.

53:43Because if you can't close my cushion and you have to transition, I'm already in position to make a play because I'm on the top side. Right. If you're in front of me or I'm trailing, okay now I'm in no man's land damn near because I'm at your mercy I'm at your mercy but as long as they got eyes on you and you're in front of me and my shoulders aren't turning up feeling I'm

54:04Shannon Sharpe:square oh shit you're dead in the water oh Joe if I'm a DB you the wide receiver I do this and I can't touch you that means you haven't moved so guess what you haven't moved you're not running nothing deep. Because the thing is in order for it to time up, you've got to go in a hurry. You've got to be 42 and 4. And you not moving, that's going to throw the timing off. So once I do this, I don't touch it. I do this, I don't touch it. Well, you ain't closed the cushion, so you're not going to work. So you're running something quick underneath. Got to be. That's how I'm looking at it. I'm looking at your stance.

54:48Shannon Sharpe:I'm looking at and I saw who's that today. I saw somebody that I forget who it was on show. He crashed down. Guys, if the guy crashed down, what you think the other guy going to do? He's going to loop around. Yeah, every time. You got to replace what disappeared. I'm like, guys, are you serious? You mean to tell me you let that guy cross your face? Pass that off and be ready for the looper. The linebacker is going to loop over the top. He ain't trying to put two guys in the A gap, two guys in the B gap. Somebody got to hit A, somebody got to hit B, and somebody got to be in the C. But I think the thing is, Ocho, a lot of times guys panic.

55:36Shannon Sharpe:They panic. And they don't trust their coaching. They don't trust their technique. And they panic. And the next thing you know, the play gets blown up. All you had to do was to trust your technique. You know that guy disappeared. somebody's got to appear. And you know, you got to think fast too, huh? Oh, you do? Yes! You got to think fast. You got to recognize what you see in front of you. Use your eyes. Again, your technique for one, but you got to be able to communicate. Yes. You got to be able to communicate. Some of the things that you see on film, you know, throughout the week, you're going to see them in the game.

56:10Yes. You're going to see them in the game. Most of the time it catches off guard because sometimes you study stuff and you see a formation and okay, okay this is it i'm ready i'm waiting on me and then it's something completely different then they come back and hit you with the same exact thing that you saw on film but you're not ready for it because they didn't load you to sleep with other they didn't load you to sleep but we the way they

56:31Shannon Sharpe:study tape the way we study tape ocho we look at everything okay obviously looking at coverage and then we look at d lineman because back then when i was in the league they used to play a lot of 25 front the sam backer was on the ball now all they play are over fronts right four down linemen they They rarely put the Sam backer on the ball. Now the Steelers play a 3-4 defense where they play Sam, Will, Mike, and they got three down linemen and they got both linebackers on the ball. And normally one's always coming because you want four-man pressure. With that being said, we would get cut up and we just look at linemen and linebackers' feet.

57:05Shannon Sharpe:And that would tell us, okay, you see his stance? Look at his stance. Look what he's going to do. Look how square he is. He ain't coming. Look at his cock. Look at his cock. he gonna put the foot back or he gonna give you a clip and I'm like okay here he come if it staggered he coming I already know he gonna try to cross my face all I'm gonna do is shove him on to the tackle cause here come my backer and I'm gonna catch him and there's Portis or TD right off my hip look I trust my film study and if they do something that we didn't see on film hey coach this is what we felt just what we thought we were going to get.

57:44Shannon Sharpe:We didn't get it. I'm going to have to react, but you're not going to beat me. You're not going to beat me, Ocho, with what I saw on tape. Now, if you beat me with something else, I give you credit. They get to practice too. They get to practice too. It's not like we're the only one practicing. They're going to show up unprepared. But you're not going to beat me with what I saw you do in this downing distance, in this area of the field, against this formation. You might beat me doing something else, but I won't let you beat me with that. and I just think the guys will give the Cowboys credit Dak always could spin the ball the problem that got that he would turn the ball over he would put the ball in harm's way he's doing a better job of protecting the football and he has two playmakers he's never had this many playmakers at once oh not like this even when he had Dez and Gallup they're not CD and pick this is a whole this is a whole different animal that we're dealing with that he has and that offensive line is getting better and better and better.

58:43And the funny thing about it is the offense is well-balanced. It's well-balanced. Not only can they throw the ball, but they can also run the ball. And they don't go away from the run because the run most of the time is opening up the pass for the goddamn Cowboys, which is why it's having so much success. We understand how good picking the C.D. Lamb are, but hell, you can run the ball like Williams is doing with shit. Man, when it's time to play action, everything's going to be wide-ass open.

59:12Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, but you got to stay balanced, don't you? Because it's easy to fall in love when you got pick and you got CD and you got guys that can go make plays. It's easy to get away because the way Dak is spinning the ball right now, it's easy to get away from the run game. But when you got Williams and you got Davis that can – and the blink that can – Davis is – not only is Williams can get you to tough yards, but he got speed to be able to get outside and get a 20, 30-yard game. Obviously, we saw Davis hit his head on the goalpost, and then all of a sudden they're catching napping, and they're going to do a quick jet handoff to Turpin coming around.

59:46Shannon Sharpe:And we know he got crazy speed. So, yes, they can run the ball. They're really balanced. But over the last three weeks, I've seen this offensive line that's starting to gel. You look at Booker. You look at Smith. Today, Steele was in at right tackle. Yeah. And I thought they played really, really well today. They did. Like I said, the Chiefs now, that model is not going to work anymore. You got to go to hell ready. You got to go get a defensive lineman, Ocho. You don't have to. And you know Spags want to bring pressure. When he feels threatened, he's always going to bring that pressure, Ocho. But now you don't really have that back end that can hold up.

1:00:29Well, you got to understand. Hey, look at the back end they had. Let me tell you when it was at their best, right? When it was at their best is we could bring pressure because we know we got Trent McDuffie and Ladarius Sneed out there.

1:00:40Shannon Sharpe:Yep. And we're going to play a shell on top of that. And you had Reed. You had Reed at safety. Man, listen. And it wasn't nothing. It wasn't nothing going on because I feel I can bring pressure because I know I don't have to worry about my goddamn backhand. Now it's not that same. Once you shuffle those players and you don't have players of the same caliber or with the same skill set that can allow you to do some of the things you want to do defensively, now this is what you get. You're absolutely right, but that defensive line is not the same. Like I said, CJ is a good player, but that 15, that 12, 15 sack guy, he's not that anymore.

1:01:21Shannon Sharpe:Koloftis, I don't even think Koloftis registered a tackle today. Did he make a tackle today? No. No stats for Koloftis. He got one. One tackle.

1:01:35tackle.

1:01:36Shannon Sharpe:They had two tackle for losses and no sacks.

1:01:45Shannon Sharpe:It's hard. Patrick Mahomes is playing unbelievable football, Locho. He had four touchdowns. Four touchdowns, 23 of 34, 261, four touchdowns. Got out of harm's way, scrambled the ball. You know, he still got those legs when needed. That play that he got pressure. The guy was about to, he jumped before he cut. He knew the guy was going to try to sweep his legs and he's off balance and he throws the ball. I think he hit Rice. No, he hit Worthy. Worthy. They're not but a handful of quarterbacks that make a player like that. I'm looking at a guy like a Josh Allen or Lamar, my homeboy, somebody like that.

1:02:26Shannon Sharpe:It's only a few, man. There's only a few that can do that. But the Cowboys, you got the Cowboys schedule up here? Cowboys. They got us next week. At Lions. Oh, Cowboys, okay. Vikings at home, Chargers at home, Commanders on the road, Giants on the road. Hmm. And what we saw from the Lions, hey, I don't know, Campbell might want to turn that play calling back over to John Morton. just saying offensive line, they're offensive line, but we're talking about them the Cowboys at Lions next week Vikings at home

1:03:11Shannon Sharpe:oh they play next Thursday that's next Thursday night who they play, who they play next Thursday is that a prime game? yeah, that's next Friday next Thursday, excuse me, next Thursday because that's normally what they do they play Thursday, Thursday and then they get 10 days off and play the following Sunday which will be a Sunday night. Yeah, they play. No, they play Thursday, Thursday, then the following Sunday. So they play Thanksgiving. They'll play next Thursday and then they'll play. Yeah, because that's what that's normally how Dallas schedule shapes up. They normally play Thanksgiving.

1:03:42Then they'll play the following Thursday and then they'll play the following Sunday. Right. So give them enough time in between the rest.

1:03:51Shannon Sharpe:Yep. Yep. Wait, hold on. Wait, hold on. Oh, no, we were talking about the Lions. Okay, we didn't even get to that. Let me see if they got water in here.

1:04:04Shannon Sharpe:They could, hey, look, they could, the Eagles could have dealt them a death blow. The Chiefs could have dealt them a death blow. But give the Cowboys credit. The Cowboys like, nah, we still believe. We still got faith. 6-11, so they got five games to play. Can they win out? Absolutely. the games only get more important as they go along further and further. What they did against the Eagles, what they've done against the Chiefs today, all that's behind them. Now we've got to put our focus on the Lions. And all of a sudden the Lions, I mean, Ross St. Brown went out. Now he has 10 days to cover. We don't know the severity of it.

1:04:47Shannon Sharpe:All they say was an ankle injury and he was out, did not play. Yeah, he got rolled. But in his absence, Jamison Williams stepped up and played huge. Jameson Williams was unbelievable today. Yeah, he was. But the Cowboys have a very – they got a very, very favorable schedule. You look at the Lions, they're a game behind the Lions. So they beat the Lions, now they flip positions. Mm-hmm. They will still be in the – they will be in the eighth spot instead of the ninth spot, if I'm not mistaken. Right. And then Vikings, Chargers, Commanders, and Giants.

1:05:27Shannon Sharpe:be close oh okay you think they can run the table Ocho? the Cowboys? yeah as long as they continue to do what they do defensively and play like that, play solid defense you don't have to be all world just meet us halfway and let the offense take care of what they're doing offensively, Dak, you can't turn the ball over Protect the ball. That's it. And make sure whoever called the plays, I'm not sure if Shadi's calling the plays, but keep that balance. Keep that balance with Williams running the ball. You know, zone reads, off tackle, some of those sweeps, some of those pitches, you'd like to do those tosses, and then play action.

1:06:09You're going to kill him every time. What Pickle's able to do, obviously, Pick playing mostly on the outside, and you see the lamb is killing everything, intermediate, short and intermediate. I mean, you'll be fine. And obviously, Jake Ferguson, when they want to use him and get him the ball, They have the weapons to do it. All it comes down to is you have to play solid, complimentary defense, and they'll be fine. It's easy for me to sit here and say it, but actually going out there and doing it, play by play, drive by drive, that's the hard part.

1:06:38Shannon Sharpe:It is. And when you look at it, Ocho, you look at the commanders might be without Jaden Daniels. He practiced, but he's probably – I think the commanders played the Broncos this week, Ocho. So he was practicing, but they said it was iffy that he'd play Sunday. We'll see if he's fully recovered and he's able to go against the Cowboys. The Chargers, we don't know what Chargers we're going to get. We know offensively they can be good. We know they can put pressure on your defensively, but we never know which Charger team is going to show up. The Vikings, J.J. McCarthy, boy. Hey, what's wrong with J.J.?

1:07:16Shannon Sharpe:Oh, we got a very special guest joining us. coming fresh from the Thanksgiving Day game in which the defensive line did a great job of getting after Patrick Mahomes. Here he is, Osi Odigazua. Ziggy, how you doing, bro? What's good, man? How y 'all doing? I'm doing great. Yeah, you doing great. Ziggy, where you at, boy? What'd you say? Where you at? I'm at home, bro. Just got done eating Thanksgiving dinner not too long ago. Oh, man, I ain't even have to. Hey, Nick, you know how I bless you all to have Thanksgiving dinner? Oh. I had three hot dogs a day. Oh, wow. And I'm spoiled, bro. I don't know how long I've been saying it.

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