Nightcap Hour 1: Packers BEAT DOWN the Broncos + Jets HANDLE Steelers + Panthers LOOKING GOOD Early + Nick Chubb HANGS UP the CLEATS

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19:50Shannon Sharpe:Rob and Peter to pay Paul and come to find out Paul done spent all the money Paul done spent all the money and Peter broke

20:04Shannon Sharpe:but no I thought I thought both first teams offense looked good I thought Green Bay second unit looked a little bit better well not a little a lot better than the Broncos unit but there the thing about what I liked about this, Ocho? Yes. The first drive, 8, 9, 10 plays. Because what happens in practice, Ocho? You get 5 or 6 reps, the backups come in and get 2 or 3 reps, now we going on to the next now it belongs to the defense. They get 4, 5, 6 reps, or 3 reps here, 2 reps break, 3 reps back in, nah, nah, bro, you had to put a 10, 10, 10, 12 play drive together. Boy, you huffing and puffing. I know they were dog tired.

20:48Shannon Sharpe:Because they hadn't had to do that in a very long time, unless you went too many. That's really the only time you get consistent play, and guys still tapping that helmet. Come on, give me a blow. Step me out. Hard-hitting action. Unforgettable moments. Unmatched energy. Be a part of an experience unlike any other with TNA Wrestling Live. Step inside the steel cage on Sunday, August 23rd at Lockdown It will be carnage! See the biggest stars, including Matt and Jeff Hardy, Mike Santana, Elena Black, The System, and more collide on a night you have to see to believe. This is crazy! Visit TNAwrestling.com for more information.

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24:03Shannon Sharpe:The New York Jets stunned the Steelers 17-0. Will Howard didn't help himself tonight throwing two interceptions. Geno Smith looked good back in New York. Perfect drive. Seven of seven, 65 yards. The best version we've ever seen of Geno, he was in Seattle. He hadn't played really well, that well anywhere else, be it Jets, Giants, Raiders. Las Vegas. The best version of Geno is what we've seen in Seattle. The question is, everybody that's, for the most part, Ocho, when they leave the Jets, they look pretty damn good. that look competent.

24:36Joe Johnson:Yeah. I was just going to say that. I was just going to say that. Now, the best version of Geno Smith obviously was in Seattle, right? Look what he had surrounding him. Look what he had around him. He had a bunch of weapons. B.K. Tyler Lockett. So, obviously, yeah, obviously now him being back, you know, for a second stint in New York where not very many quarterbacks have had success. No. Not very many quarterbacks have had success, but when the team has had success, it's because of the defense. That defense was their identity. Now, I don't think their defense is anywhere near what they used to be.

25:10Joe Johnson:No, no, no, no, no. So, therefore, the onus is on the offense this year. So, Geno has to come in on a second stint and be that much better than he was before. He has to play eyes and ears above everyone else offensively outside of Garrett Wilson, who is obviously their superstar in Brees Hall. They got to take the pressure off of Geno.

25:29Shannon Sharpe:What you thinking, Joe? Man, I thought Geno was great. He didn't play long. I can't Ocho, but to go seven for seven, a touchdown is exactly, you know, what you want to see. I think for me, the biggest story would probably be the Jets' defense. Two picks, four sacks, and a shutout. Yeah, I mean, I know it's the preseason, but, hey, man, them boys out there moving, man. Hey, I like to see, you know, when the defense get together and everything starts clicking on all cylinders. You get them picks, them boys get to huddling up, running out of the way. They get the party. Hey, man, I just love the excitement of the game.

26:04Shannon Sharpe:I thought the Jets came ready to play. Their defense was phenomenal tonight, though. Yeah, Ocho. This is Tyrod's 16th season. Damn. Golly. Came in the league in 2011.

26:20Joe Johnson:Boy, he been playing for a little minute. What?

26:23Shannon Sharpe:Buffalo. They started at Baltimore, Buffalo, Cleveland. The Chargers, Texans, Giants, Jets, Green Bay. Hey, you know he come from that dual quarterback university. Yeah, that Virginia Tech. They produce them, boy. Yeah, he died to Vatek, Mike Vick. Yeah. Tyrod had a nice little career. He did, he did. The problem is that he went to Virginia Tech and everybody knew number seven. Yeah. Hey, hold on. He done had some chances to be a starting quarterback before, ain't he? Yeah, he was a starting quarterback, and he was a starter in Buffalo. San Diego. No, he was going to be the starter, and he hurt his ribs, and they went to give him an injection, and they did, you know.

27:14Joe Johnson:Yeah, and they punctured his lung. Damn.

27:17Shannon Sharpe:And then Justin Herbert ended up starting. So he had some bad luck. I think he might have started in Cleveland too, Ocho.

27:27Shannon Sharpe:Nah, he didn't start anything. What you call him? He was the backup at Cleveland. Baker, I think Baker was the name. Baker, yeah. He started. The rookie, Drew Aller, that's his name? Yeah, Drew Aller. Drew Aller. Yeah, he didn't play bad tonight. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. But look, I don't care who the quarterback is. They better protect him. They can't protect. They can't protect. Now, Rodgers is going to have to do an exemplary job of getting rid of the football. Now, some of those sacks belong to the quarterback. He's going to have to do a great job of redirecting the line and getting the football out of his hands.

28:08Shannon Sharpe:But, boy, they bad. That offensive line, ooh. Hey, that's why A-Rod is going to have to process things a lot damn quicker, boy. Yeah. Get it on up out of that. He doesn't have the mobility that he once had, guys. I mean, when you 41, 42 years of age, I don't care how great a shape you is. Yeah. Well, your boy LeBron's finna be 42, yeah. And he ain't what he, he don't move like he did when he was 26. Or 36. Yeah. A-Rod gonna be all right. By the time undefeated, eventually he taps us all on the shoulder. Now, we can fight him off. Some of us are able to fight him off for longer periods of time.

28:49Shannon Sharpe:But the thing is, He has an unlimited supply of timeouts, and he got an unlimited supply of Gatorade. That Joker just keep coming. I'm fighting him off. Damn, man, I'm finna get him off me. I'll tell you that now. No, he's gon' keep coming, though. No, I'm getting him off me. I'm getting him off me. Hey, hey, Joe, what you doing today? That one day that you said, I ain't doing nothing. That's when he gonna jump on you. I got him. I got him, Mocho. One day you say you not doing anything, old lady can't get you out of bed, You're like, man, I'm good. I'm just gonna lay a ride here today. That's what Father Tiles said.

29:25Shannon Sharpe:That was the opener that I needed. Hey, hey, hey, you ain't lying because it happen often too.

29:33Shannon Sharpe:I thought the second number, number two overall pick, David Bailey, I thought he played well. He was outstanding at Texas Tech.

29:39Joe Johnson:Yeah. Yeah, he had a nice little sack too.

29:42Shannon Sharpe:And you know what, Ocho? When somebody go out there and they ain't got no elbow sleeves, they ain't got no gloves on, they hell raisers. because the last guy that I seen do that was Reggie White. Reggie was the last guy that I saw play no sleeves, no gloves

29:58Joe Johnson:no gloves just bare arms, bare this hand

30:01Shannon Sharpe:now later in his career he started he would put two strips of tape, white tape around his wrist, but other than that

30:09Joe Johnson:yeah I've seen two people play like that Ryan, I mean I'm talking about Joe you know, no gloves they just, you know you tape the the little pieces of right of your fingers, the double tape, Sean Taylor. Oh, yeah, yeah. Seemed with no glove, no glove, no elbow, and I seen Ryan Clark. Yeah. That's it. Outside of that, everybody wanted to have a certain look, you know, and not flashy. What's the word? What's the word for it? Be stylish. Man, the boys ain't care. Them boys, they ain't care. And you talking about coming downhill and meet you to the party? Oh, yeah. Man, Ryan Clark might have been on the side, but joe he he wasn't he wasn't messing around what nah he played like he was six five even though he was small him and by him and bob sandals like that oh matter of fact hold on bobby bobby with no gloves you stay healthy huh yeah like a mack truck he's only like maybe 5 10.

31:09Joe Johnson:reckless joe reckless most of the time joe when you see safeties you see dbs and they come up to make contact you You gather step before you go through. You gather yourself and you go through. He just, just run.

31:23Shannon Sharpe:He's floating through the guy.

31:25Joe Johnson:Just run, just go straight through. No gathering or nothing. Ocho, you remember Dallas Clark?

31:30Shannon Sharpe:I do.

31:32Joe Johnson:Dallas Clark, for 44, for the coach.

31:34Shannon Sharpe:He played with no gloves.

31:35Joe Johnson:Yeah. Oh, that's right. Dallas did have no gloves. That's right. That's right. I don't see how they do that. I don't know how they do it either, Ocho. Hold on. Tim Brown, huh?

31:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Tim Brown didn't play with gloves. Nope. The receiver Tim Brown? Yeah. No gloves. No gloves. Nuh-uh. What'd you call him? I don't think Sean Alexander wore gloves either. Boy, you, hey. Oh yeah, he had the big elbow pads back in the day. As a receiver there wasn't no gloves, boy you got some real hands out there. Yeah, yeah. That ball be stinking, where they be throwing it. Good luck, I tell you what, you weren't gonna be playing with John Elway with no gloves on, I bet you that. He gonna split the finger? He gonna tear your hands up, man. And it's cold, too? Oh, yeah. Man. Hey, I need to meet some, what do you call them, some workman gloves.

32:26Shannon Sharpe:Gloves that he's working on the farm with. That ball would be hurting. But I thought Gino looked good. Hopefully, he can get back what he had in Seattle for a couple of years and bring that to the Jets because they need that. Because I don't know, Ojo, if they have another dismal season like this, I don't know if AG can fight him off in how much longer.

32:50Joe Johnson:Obviously, ownership has to understand. Give me something to work with. You can't tell me to cook you a certain meal, right? And you want to taste a certain way, but I don't have the right goddamn ingredients. Excuse me, I'm sorry. I don't have the right ingredients. In order to make the meal you want, in order for me to have success, give me what I need to work with. And if you know I don't have what I need to work with, don't put me on a short lease and fire me because nothing's going to change. I don't even know what number coach they're on now, huh? Keep thinking that the merry-go-round of coaches are going to change the wins and the losses.

33:22Joe Johnson:That's not what's going to do it. No.

33:26Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is, Ocho, you said not the right ingredients. We see all these cooking email outs out in the wild. What they doing? They cooking. They done killed an animal. They done got a fish. They done washed the fish off in the river and got some oil in the pan. Hey, they done. Yes, sir. You got everything going like, damn. You're like, they're the real kitchen. Like, damn, that might be all right right there. But I just don't know, Ojo, you're right. Nobody has patience anymore. Because you know why? It's just too easy to say F it and move on.

34:01Joe Johnson:Right. And too much money. Oh, for sure. Too much money, too much money. The question is how he probably signed a five-year deal,

34:14Shannon Sharpe:probably six million a year. They eat that. Yeah. They eat that, Joe. Oh, Joe. What's that to them? Nothing. I mean, you think about it. Look at the Raiders. The Raiders got like three coaches on payroll. They got Josh McDaniels. They got Pete Carroll. Gruden still on there from that 10-year deal? Well, Gruden's thing is an escrow. He's suing the league. So right now he still got about$60 million,$60,$70 million, because he signed a 10-year,$100 million deal. So he is an escrow. Hold on, how he still got that much left on there? That man been gone for a minute. But they fired him, and they say they fired him with cause.

35:02Shannon Sharpe:So if they fire you with cause, they don't have to pay you. He's disputing that. Wow. Clint Kubiak, Pete Carroll, Josh McDaniel. That's three coaches right there. Two of the three don't work for you. Wait, I forgot Kubiak was there for a little bit. No, he's there now. Clint, that's Gary's son. I played with his dad. I mean, he used to shag balls. He used to be the ball boy for us. Now he's a head coach in the NFL.

35:35Joe Johnson:I played with Gary.

35:38Shannon Sharpe:He was my offensive coordinator also, but he was my quarterback for two years in Denver.

35:43Joe Johnson:Okay. God, there's so many of them Kubiaks, man.

35:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Kline, Kyle Shanahan, the same thing. It's funny to see guys that were ball boys and shagging punts and stuff. Yeah. Kid coaching in the NFL.

35:58Shannon Sharpe:Hey, we, man, we should have happened to him. No, we should have done nothing. it. Hey, that's typically how it happens though. Hey, hey, you see that a lot. I mean, especially when I was playing, you could see cats who were ball boys. Hell, now they assistant coaches. You move up to the video room. You know what I mean? You keep moving your way up. Next thing you know, hell, you the assistant general manager. Yeah. Yeah. Me, I ain't never want to be nothing. All I want to do was a football player. And once I was done, I was done. I ain't want to be nothing else. I ain't want to coach. I ain't wanna do nothing.

36:33Shannon Sharpe:I ain't wanna be no personnel director. I ain't wanna be no community relations director. I ain't wanna do nothing, Joe. Once I was done with it, you go, hey, you are gonna do something else.

36:45Joe Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, Joe, James Jones played. He's also upstairs now, right? Am I saying that my name? Yeah, that's James Jones. Yeah, the one that used to be in Miami,

36:56Shannon Sharpe:he in the league office now. That's what I meant. Yeah, he used to be the general manager of the Suns. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what about him?

37:06Joe Johnson:Yeah, what's Young Bull's name that played for the Philadelphia 76ers, but I don't know if he's still, if he's in the front office now. Trajan Langdon runs Detroit.

37:15Shannon Sharpe:You talking about Elton Brand? Elton Brand is, he just got, they let him go, man. And Philly, they let him go? I think so, yeah. Elton Brand. Cause you know Trajan Langdon, Joe and Ocho, He run the show in Detroit now. Yeah, you know that's what, you know, Arn Tellem, who was my agent for like 15 years. I played in the NBA, that was my agent. He's like the president over there for the Pistons now. Oh, is he?

37:42Joe Johnson:Wait, how you go from an agent to the president? You can do that? What you think, what you think, Leon Rose, the worldwide week, Leon Rose.

37:53Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, he was one of the best in the game, bro, yeah. he moved he went from agent excuse me to uh president for the pistons right now

38:03Joe Johnson:hey that's funny that's funny how you can go from an agent most of the time fighting for the players to get their money you know against you know teams and organizations or people in their positions of power trying to trying to prove to them why a player should get that kind of money to now be on the other side of the fence yeah basketball is a lot easier ocho they're gonna

38:19Shannon Sharpe:get you if you got you don't need no agent if you imagine clay k cunningham really don't need an agent. He gonna get the super max. We ain't going in there and negotiating nothing. Tell me where I sign at. I know it's max dollars. What we negotiating? Hell, it's max dollars. If you do a four year, you're getting a three plus an option. If you do a five year, you're getting a four plus an option. And you're getting a trade kicker.

38:49Joe Johnson:That's only for the elite players, though. Yeah, I think. Hey, look.

38:54Shannon Sharpe:Honestly, basketball is similar to football. The quarterbacks make the majority of the money in football, and in basketball, the elite ones. That's what it is, the elite. You got somewhat of a middle ground, but hell, if you ain't him, it's hard to get paid this league, brother.

39:12Joe Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's where your agent comes to play. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

39:16Shannon Sharpe:And the bigger he is, like Scott Boris. They're going to want one of his picks. They're going to want somebody he got. Yeah. When you screw him over, he's going to place this guy somewhere else. Basketball, you screw him over, he's going to take that guy and go somewhere else.

39:32Joe Johnson:Mm-hmm. Right. So. Hey, Scott Boris, he's the best. He's like the number one agent when it comes to baseball. Yeah. Yes. Hold on. Who the number one agent for football, you think? Drew?

39:49Shannon Sharpe:Maybe Drew. Athletes first. Moolagera got to click over the athletes first. Oh, yeah. But most people now, Ocho, they don't really – they're in agencies. You got CAA. You got things like that. You got WME. You got athletes first. Drew probably is really like – and he got the Rosenhaus brand. But for the most part, it wasn't always like this. It was guys with individual. You had a Tom Conner. You had a Lee Steinberg. You had the Poston Brothers. You had like Drew before he, but now everybody done went to see it. Guys went to CAA, they went to WME, they went to Swartz. So that's where they are now.

40:31Joe Johnson:Yeah, I mean, Uncle Joe, I was with Jerome Stanley in the beginning of my career. I think, what you call him with Jerome?

40:39Shannon Sharpe:That wasn't that Keyshawn's agent?

40:42Joe Johnson:Yeah, it was Keyshawn. Yeah, I was with Keyshawn early, early in my career. I was with Jerome Stanley. His son in the NBA, right? I don't know yeah it's on play I don't know it's first and last name but after that Joe I was with Drew Robles house the rest of my career but Drew was a shark boy that movie Jerry Maguire with Tom Cruise Drew don't play that was Lee Steinberg

41:12Shannon Sharpe:they based that movie on and you know you got You got Klutz, now you got Rich Paul and his group. Yeah, yeah. They do football? Yeah, they do football. Man, they got, don't they got Miles Garrett, Nicole Lynn, Jalen Hurts, all these big, yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

41:32Joe Johnson:Damn, we need to get back out there, man. Get back out there and do what?

41:42Shannon Sharpe:I'm gonna put it to you like this. I'll put it to you like this here. I got football mentality, but I got crossing guard helps. That ain't going to work. All I can do, hey, I can hold it. Joe, that's all I got for, man. I ain't finna tell nobody. Man, you can still play. PlayStation. That's all I can play. I can't do none of that, man. I'm going to have bilateral hip replacement, man, please.

42:10Joe Johnson:oh hey it'd be so funny the first time people see you and say boy you still in shape and they love that's everybody's favorite line oh you look like you can still play and you know they expected me to talk trash and be like oh yeah of course i'd be like man listen man somebody hit me right now i'm gonna get away yeah we're gonna fight we're gonna fight there is no way uncle joe that i could take the punishment that comes with a four quarter game i couldn't i could barely recover in in my 20s, I recovered. I'm just saying waking up and you got to warm up before you walk, when your feet hit the ground

42:44Shannon Sharpe:the day after the game, everything is sore. You done forgot how to fall, Locho.

42:53Shannon Sharpe:Hey, because you got Todd France, he's an athlete first. Joel Siegel, he's a WME. David Mulageta, the athlete first. Drew Rosenhaus, Tom Condon, CAA. So everybody, I mean, everybody like on an agency now. Because CAA, they used to mainly, and WME, they used to mainly represent actors and actresses. Yep, yep.

43:19Joe Johnson:Oh, you know what, you know what, too? I'm glad you just said it. I think a lot of players probably go to those entities like CAA because of all the other opportunities they can bring them outside of just football. No question. All the opportunities they can bring that way. But like from a football standpoint, I mean, Drew Rosenhaus has always been a powerhouse for a very long time, and he's always had a really, really, really good group of dudes. And I just know when it comes time to negotiate, man, Drew's always been the real deal. He gonna get what you want, and he gonna squeeze a little bit more out of him like a lemon now.

43:57Shannon Sharpe:I met with Tom Condon, I met with some guys, but they were just too big for me, man. What do you mean big? They were too big. I mean, they got too many guys. I mean, sometimes I want to call. I want to pick up the phone, and you don't say, well, he'll call you back. Yeah. I want you to jump on the phone. I don't call that often because more times than not, my agent was calling me. Everything okay? I hadn't heard from him in a while, X, Y, and Z. But sometimes I want to pick up the phone, don't you? And I just want to get you on the phone. I don't want you to call me back. I want to talk right now.

44:27Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And I just felt like, you know what? And Tom might have not been that, because I had a great conversation with him. I thought he was unbelievable. But for me at that time in my life, I was just like, and I've had basically the same major for 30 years. Yeah.

44:44Joe Johnson:You needed somebody a little bit more hands-on. Yeah.

44:46Shannon Sharpe:But, I mean, he had Elway, Marino. He worked with Seau, Jonathan Ogden, Tim Brown, Rod Woodson. Yeah. But I was like, man. But now you see what everybody's getting. Everybody's going to click up. Everybody in the agency now, Ocho. It ain't the same. Really? Because it's hard. If you're by yourself because you need somebody because guess what? Brands. Look at all this. What you see? Brands. Brands. Brands. Brands. Transition. I want to be able to lead the football field, and I want to go into coaching. I want to go into broadcasting. I want to go into acting. I want to do something. KCAA. WME. That's where your actors, that's the Tom Cruise's and the Scarlett Johansson's and all the...

45:35Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey, hey, hey, look. Hey, when I came out of college, Uncle Ocho, and I was looking for an agent, and I ran into Artello, he named two guys who he had. He said, we got Kobe Bryant, Tracer McGrady. I said, hell, I'm going with you. This is who I want out here. I want to be on your team. I like them guys who you got over there. Yeah, I'm going to roll with y 'all. And then Kobe ended up going to, what you call him? Yep, yep, he ended up leaving, going with, what's his name? Paul Polinka. Yeah, well, Polinka, who over there in - In LA, the Lakers? Oh yeah, Polinka with the Lakers, yeah. I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about what you call him, with the Philly.

46:14Shannon Sharpe:Polinka was that good of an agent during that time? Yeah, he was under, he worked with Arn Teller, he worked under Arn Teller all those years. Oh, so it's the same people. Yeah, but he was Kobe's like right hand man, You know what I mean? Under R and tell him. So like anything Kobe needed, yeah. That's who he went through. You start up under here, and then you branch out and get your own thing, Ocho. Okay. So that's normally how it worked. But he had some shady practices, some shady tactics, but we won't get into that. We'll talk about that during basketball season. Hard-hitting action. Unforgettable moments.

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49:49Shannon Sharpe:The Panthers beat the Jags 34-17. McMillan, Bryce Young only played 11 snaps, 5 of 6, 49 yards. Trevor Lawrence, Travis, and Hunter did not play. Former Colorado Buffalo Jimmy Horn Jr. made some flashes tonight. I like Jimmy Horn Jr. He was spectacular when he was at Buffalo. Fast guy, run 4-3, tremendous in the slot, can return the ball. Kent McMillan, look, he was rookie of the year for a reason. He was rookie of the year for a reason. He has that. Kenny Pickett looked good. He looked good.

50:30Shannon Sharpe:I don't want to put too much, but I thought the throws that he's making, though, Ocho, You know, that's what I, because, man, look, we've seen Kenny Pickett in the preseason not look like what Kenny Pickett is looking like now. Yeah, yeah. There's no guarantee that if something were to happen to Bryce Young, and hopefully that does not happen, that he's going to look like in a regular season what he's looking like in the preseason. Right. But I thought he played well. John Metch, oh, John Metch is on Carolina now.

51:01Joe Johnson:Yeah, Metch is there. Yep, Mechie, Teterola, Leggett, Jimmy Horn, Coker. They got a nicer. They got a really.

51:12Shannon Sharpe:He has the ability to be something. I think he's good. Hey, Bryce, you don't look good, too. He has some great moves in the pocket. You know what I mean? Just kind of sliding and moving. He looked good today. He's just so small, man. He looks small, Ojo.

51:29Joe Johnson:Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, it's a few of them out there like that. Bo Nix small, huh?

51:35Shannon Sharpe:No, I'm talking about this dude here. He might weigh 180. Oh, weight-wise, yeah.

51:41Joe Johnson:He's not that tall either. Yeah, you're right.

51:44Shannon Sharpe:He look thin. He look frail. He look small, yeah.

51:49Joe Johnson:And his frame, he can only get so big. He can't get no bigger than that anyway.

51:53Shannon Sharpe:Nope.

51:55Joe Johnson:Be that small, I know one thing. He got great ballplay. He can anticipate his throws, and he's good at moving in the pocket. He has very, very good pocket presence to be that size.

52:06Shannon Sharpe:He's nice with it. Hey, look. He do. A little to the left, a little to the right, up and back. Yeah. Carolina got some great young offensive pieces, man, who really came to play tonight. I thought Jonathan Brooks held. I thought he ran the ball pretty good on the ground today. So I thought they young pieces showed out. AJ Dillon. Yeah. AJ, you remember AJ from the Green Bay with the Philly last year?

52:29Joe Johnson:From Green Bay with the big man. Got them. Yeah, about the size of my waist, boy. Hey, Ocho. Miles Davis.

52:41Shannon Sharpe:I know you had high praise for the Panthers last year. They was your sleeper team, and they came through. Did they make it to the postseason? Yeah. Yeah. What you got them doing? Almost beat the Rams.

52:51Joe Johnson:Yeah. What you got them doing? Almost. They're going to be the same. they're going to pick up where they left off last year. I told you my two teams last year were Chicago and the Panthers, and they both played well. Chicago will be lights out this year. I think Chicago will be a team with Ben Johnson. Don't be surprised if they score 30-35 a game. Joe, I kid you not. If they score 30-35 a game, I wouldn't be surprised because of the creativity of the person calling the plays in Ben Johnson. The Panthers are going to pick up where they left off. Obviously, another year, Bryce Young on the center, a little bit more comfortable with that offense.

53:25Joe Johnson:McMillan taking that next step in his second year as a number one guy, they're going to be all right. They got a slew of talent over there at the receiver position.

53:35Shannon Sharpe:You think Jimmy Horn going to get an opportunity this year?

53:40Joe Johnson:Yeah, absolutely. They're going to find something for him to do because he's too good. He's too good. I'm not saying he's not a great play. He's not a Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase, but you put him in the right position to be able to make plays and play them to his strengths in your offense, within your offensive scheme, man, you know, it's easy for us to say, but I think it's much more difficult for a coordinator to fit a player into that scheme of your offense in a 75-80-play screen. Yeah, I mean, well, he looked good in this training camp in preseason, man. He's been doing his thing. Yeah, he's been getting open.

54:14Joe Johnson:I didn't see him. I'd be watching all the little clips.

54:16Shannon Sharpe:You see what Tyreek did? What did he do? He found a way. Hey, he's bad looking. When you got that kind of speed, when you got that kind of quickness, then find a place for you.

54:24Joe Johnson:Got to use it. Got to use it.

54:28Shannon Sharpe:All you got to do is just keep flashing. Like, damn. Who? Coach is going to be in there like, running back. Who is that? That's boring, Coach. Okay. Let's see if we can find that. Hey, let's put a little bit more on this plate. Let's see if we can find something for him to do.

54:47Joe Johnson:Yeah. Hey, you know who else they need to do that with, too? I don't like the way they use him last year they're using him in too much of a gadget fashion Matthew Golden over there in Green Bay

54:58Shannon Sharpe:yeah for sure

54:59Joe Johnson:if you time the way you time I needed to show up like that on the field when you time like that

55:09Shannon Sharpe:a lot of times when you time like that all they want you to do is run a goal and a post because they don't think you can run a speed out They don't think you can run a dig. They don't think you can run a comeback. Like, bro, I can run other – I can run – yes, yes, I got 4-3 speed. But I promise you, I promise you, I can hit 10 and roll to 12. I promise you I can get to 15 and come back down the hill. I can do all that. I can run the glance. Well, they used to call it glance. They call it a bang. We used to call it skinny. Bang it. Yeah, they call it banging. Whatever terminology you use. Yeah.

55:45Shannon Sharpe:All I know is that outside foot, that foot that's back, when it hit that seventh step, look for the ball.

55:52Joe Johnson:That ball got to be right there.

55:55Shannon Sharpe:And be ready for some contact. But take the bat at the wrong angle.

56:02Joe Johnson:Strike up the band. Don't be trouble.

56:04Shannon Sharpe:Hell yeah, hit that sexy bat on him.

56:11Shannon Sharpe:No, but I think the pass is going to be good. We're going to see. Joe, what the Falcons gonna do? What the... Tampa? Cause New Orleans, Ocho, the last month of the season, New Orleans played well. Tyler Shupp did an unbelievable job.

56:29Joe Johnson:Yeah, he came on real well.

56:30Shannon Sharpe:I ain't gonna lie, I'm worried about them Falcons, fellas. I ain't gonna lie to y 'all.

56:34Joe Johnson:What, oh, you only worried because of the quarterback position, huh? Yeah, that's it. That's a great reason to worry. Yeah, that's something to be worried about.

56:40Shannon Sharpe:Hell, that's a major part of it.

56:45Shannon Sharpe:Hey. Come on, man. Yeah. Yeah, Tua got you. Yeah. You should be worried about that, Joe. No, I shouldn't.

56:57Joe Johnson:Tua going to be all right.

56:58Shannon Sharpe:Man, what up?

57:00Joe Johnson:Yeah, you got some nice weapons riding in there.

57:03Shannon Sharpe:Four-time Pro Bowl running back Nick Chubb announced his retirement today from the NFL at the age of 30. Chubb had four consecutive 1 ,000-yard rushing seasons from 2019 to 2022. He and Jim Brown are the only players in league history with 6 ,000 plus rushing yards, 5 plus yards per carry in his first five seasons. The 2023 season is when injuries begin to rob him of his prime years. He tore both his MCL, meniscus, and ACL in 2023 after a gruesome knee injury in week two that year. Chubb returned to action week seven of 2024 season before suffering another season in the injury in week 15. Chubb posted on IG.

57:41Shannon Sharpe:going through a devastating knee injury at the age of 19 is a lot different than going through it at 28. You understand that you have the rest of your life to look forward to, and health is the real wealth. Man. Man, you got to tell me, bro. He had a nice little run. I admit, I've had meniscus and MCLs, and my knees are telling on me now. I haven't torn an ACL. Normally when you have ACLs, they start going to knees, Ocho. You're going to have arthritic knees. It is what it is. There's a good chance he's a high candidate. Not saying that he will, but he's a high candidate for knee replacement. Damn.

58:23Shannon Sharpe:Hey, man, it hurt, bro. When injuries rob you of your career, you look at some of the great ones. Hell, I like Chubb. Chubb was a hell of a running back.

58:32Joe Johnson:He was a bully boy.

58:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, like even in basketball, bro, like it robs some of our best players. as injuries robbed some of our best players of having historic careers. T-Mac, Brandon Roy. Penny Hardaway. Olden Penny, yep. Come on, man. Yeah, D-Rose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unfortunate, bro, unfortunate. It's so common in football, though, because it's such a contact sport, you know what I mean? So it's not even really surprising when you see these guys go down with these different injuries, knee injuries, and you see a guy get hit in his ankle, pointing the other direction. Ooh. Whee. Ah. But the thing is, for me, it's like, man, what do you think?

59:18Shannon Sharpe:I said, bro, my sister ain't playing no football. She done had bilateral hip replacement. She got both of her hips replaced, so what's her excuse?

59:30Shannon Sharpe:Just the defect, Dennis.

59:32Joe Johnson:She used to cheer?

59:33Shannon Sharpe:No.

59:36Joe Johnson:That was the only thing I could think of. Hell no.

59:42Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it's tough. He went to the University of Georgia. Think about it. And you get a guy like Thomas Davis. Thomas Davis had three ACL tears. Came back and played 15, 16 years. Yeah. Damn. I mean, Chubby had a nice career. I think it could have been better without the injuries. Yes, absolutely. But this was the hand that he was dealt. See, a lot of times people confuse, Ocho. It's like when God says, I want to play in the NFL, and God says, I'm going to allow you to play in the NFL. He didn't say he's going to allow you to play 15 years. He didn't say he's going to allow you to play injury-free.

1:00:20Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And so I think sometimes people get that confused. Yes, that's why the NFL career, as long as you get a guy like a Tom Brady and a Peyton Manning and Drew Bledsoe, Drew Brees, that play 18, 19, 20 years. You get most people playing a year, two years, and they don't. Three years, the average career for an NFL player. Three.

1:00:40Joe Johnson:That's it.

1:00:41Shannon Sharpe:So when you factor in all those 20s, all those 12s, those 14s, it gets drugged all the way back down by those guys that don't make it and the guys that only play one year. It's the harsh reality. Everybody go to law school, they ain't going to pass the bar. Everybody go to med school ain't going to get a medical license.

1:01:07Shannon Sharpe:This notion that just because you play or you go try for the league, that doesn't guarantee it. It doesn't guarantee that you're going to play in the league. Hello. Just like everybody to go to Harvard Medical or Harvard Law or Yale Law or whatever or go to Stanford and try to get an econ or a finance degree. That doesn't mean they're going to get it. But people would have you believe that only sports is that if you try for a sport and you don't make it that you're unsuccessful. There are a lot of people that try to get things that are unsuccessful. It's just not sports. It's just you go to law school and you don't pass the bar.

1:01:51Shannon Sharpe:They don't post it. You go to the NFL and you don't make the roster, guess what? It's going to be in the paper. Yeah. August 30th, what's the day? 21st. In nine days, everybody, the Dallas Cowboys, all the people that didn't make it for the Cowboys. The Broncos, all the people that didn't make it for the Broncos. The Bengals, all the people. Now, you think they're going to list all the people in California that didn't pass the bar? Are they going to list the people in Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina? Hell no.

1:02:28Shannon Sharpe:Just got to transition, bro. Yeah. I said, man, I was going to be alone. I don't know what I was going to do. My plan was A. My A plan was to make it to the league. My B plan was to make it to the league. My C plan was to make it to the league. My D plan was to make it. I didn't have nothing else, Ochoa. Yeah. I mean, I got a degree because I was already there. I was like, you know what? I might as well just go ahead and get my degree since I'm here. But that was not my option. My option was not to use that degree. Hey, boy, you said something there. That was my same plan. I went to school for basketball, Ocho.

1:03:08Shannon Sharpe:I majored in it, got me a degree in it, and got my ass out of there. Hey, say what you want. Yeah. That was my major. They asked me, what's your major? Eligibility. The longer I can stay here, the better my chances is to get to the NFL. If I can stay eligible, that's what I majored in. I don't know what y 'all majored in.

1:03:33Joe Johnson:Hey, you got your degree? No? Are you sure you got yours? So I'm the only oddballer, ain't got no damn degree.

1:03:41Shannon Sharpe:Well, you better go back and get it.

1:03:43Joe Johnson:I'm going, I'm going. I'm gonna do my online classes at FAMU, man. They already reached out too. I gotta do it. I gotta walk that stage, man.

1:03:50Shannon Sharpe:Oh, you wanna walk the stage and clown?

1:03:53Joe Johnson:No, I'm not gonna clown, Joe, but I just wanna do it the right way. You know, I know my grandma would be, you know, she got every degree possible. You know, doctorate and she did everything. I'm like, and that's something she always wanted. But I'm like, man, grandma, you know, I'm not, listen, I'm not going to college. I'm not going to be a scholar. That ain't me. That's not what I do. I'm going to play football and hoping I can get to the next level. I'm hoping. He's like, baby, no, you got to have a backup plan. You have to have something to fall back on.

1:04:27Shannon Sharpe:and football don't work out. I say, my situation. That was my backup plan. If I was going to be a starter, I was going to be a special team. That's my backup plan. Something about football. My grandpa told him, yeah, that boy going to get his paper. That other boy got his paper. He'll get his paper. That's what they call a degree, paper. Yeah.

1:04:45Joe Johnson:Yeah.

1:04:46Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, once my brother got, Brian, man, anything I saw my brother do, I know I can do it. Oh, he got a degree? Yeah, it can't be that hard. Yeah. He got two degrees. Hey, once I knew I had that potential, Ocho. I'm talking about in high school. I didn't play with it. I was locked in, boy. I was locked in. Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't playing. Yeah. That's. Man, I'm like, whew. It's just tough. Because, you know, like you said, when you're 19, at some point the body just don't respond like it once did. Man, getting out of bed. I don't know how y 'all feel, but getting out of bed hurt for me. Man, I have to sit to the – hey, I have to spin around.

1:05:31Shannon Sharpe:Man, I got to – I can't just – hey, Joe, what's the point of time? I just pop up. Man, I got to think about it. Okay, what I'm going to do? What foot I'm going to get hurt? Put my – hurt. I'm like, damn, my knees hurt. Damn, my ankles hurt. My back hurt. I ain't did nothing. Hey, the first thing you do when you wake up, you got to assess the body. You're like, damn, what's hurting now? We're hurting. Why am I ankle biting this morning? Hell, I ain't even doing it. I been asleep. Hey. I wake up in the middle of the night like, damn, my knee hurt.

1:06:05Joe Johnson:Yeah. I'm waiting on them days. I'm sure they coming. They ain't here yet, bro.

1:06:12Shannon Sharpe:You got to stay active, Ocho. You stay active?

1:06:14Joe Johnson:I think that's the only thing to say.

1:06:16Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. Once you stop, it's a wrap, bro. Yeah. I'm serious. I was active, too. that these old hips and knees slowed me down. I'm still active, not as active. Yeah, yeah. We know you're active. There you go. See what I'm saying? I'm just saying we know you. See what happened? You see I ain't gonna let Phil chat. That don't make him no bad brother. I ain't saying nothing. I just said we know. We know. Yeah. Yeah. Joe, what you drinking? Ain't nothing but a little tea tonight, Ocho, a little tea.

1:06:50Joe Johnson:What do you got? You got a little tingle in your throat?

1:06:51Shannon Sharpe:No, I ain't got nothing in my throat. I'm just saying. It's a little tea. I'm just drinking a little tea. That's it. Yeah, he got a haircut. I got an old hair furball.

1:07:02Joe Johnson:Hey, I know what that means. Drinking tea at 1 o 'clock in the morning. You know? Hey, I'm familiar with your game. Listen, man, we all vibing.

1:07:08Shannon Sharpe:I can't vibe with a little tea. Damn, you drink a whole Red Bull over there, bro. How you go to sleep after you get off of here?

1:07:18Joe Johnson:Well, Joe, go right to sleep. I need his Red Bull to survive. I don't be up this time of night. It wasn't until we started doing nightcap that my bedtime at 9.30 ended. 9.30, Joe, I'm out, and I'm up at 5 in the morning. That's how I was until LeBron came to the West Coast.

1:07:38Shannon Sharpe:Oh, then you got to step and watch the game. I'm like, come on, man.

1:07:43Joe Johnson:You're killing me. I was on a good routine, Joe, since retirement too. 9.30, I'm out. I hit the cigar bar around 5 o 'clock, stay in the cigar bar from 5 to 8, 8.15, come home, hit a little shower maybe, brush my teeth, get that cigar smell out, get a Listerine. But 9.30 hit, I put on that Sanford and Son, boom, 5 o 'clock. I'm talking about Joe every morning, same routine. Never miss a beat.

1:08:10Shannon Sharpe:But that's what my brother was just like. my brother was uh uh uh my brother was 29 when his career ended just like that oh 94 catches 18 touchdowns on joe joe never stepped on the field again damn made the pro bowl that year what was his neck he had something in his neck yeah yeah yeah hey um you think do you think the doctor told him he shouldn't play yeah right you think did he you think he my brother My brother was good at football. My brother didn't love football. He was good at it. No? No. My brother ain't shed one tear when they told him his career was over. I'm like, oh, well. You'd have been hurt, boy.

1:08:52Shannon Sharpe:You'd have been down bending knee. Boy, they better get me a room with some pads in it.

1:09:01Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I ain't even going to hold y 'all. It look bad, please.

1:09:07Shannon Sharpe:no man I know and just you had to I mean think about he had the apex yeah oh yeah he was at the top of his game he two years removed from winning the triple crown there's only been a handful of receivers that received votes for the MVP he was one of them Jerry did it several times who else got Cooper Cup and Randy Moss. Only five receivers have received a vote for the MVP. He's done it twice. And it was over. Just like that. So one year after receiving vote for the MVP of the league, career done. Damn. He called me up. He was just calm. Just a matter of fact. Hey bro, man, what's going on, man?

1:10:00Shannon Sharpe:What did the doctor say? He said it's over. Hmm. He got hit? Yeah, well, it happened the week before. He ran into his old college teammate. But he said he had been having stingers and his tingling in his hands and his feet, but it didn't tell nobody. So he collided with his former teammate, Brad Edwards. They're playing the Falcons week 16. And then, you know, he was trying to turn himself over. Because I was looking at it. I was like, oh, man, damn. and he couldn't. Then all of a sudden, the feeling came back. He got up, walked off the field. Next week, they play Tampa. He cooking. Sell him a buck, 24-2 touchdowns.

1:10:48Shannon Sharpe:Last catch. Catch the ball. Thomas Eric glazed him across the helmet. That was it.

1:10:58Joe Johnson:That was it.

1:10:59Shannon Sharpe:He went to the dock. They kept him out of the playoffs.

1:11:06Shannon Sharpe:Go to the doctor I call the man what the doctor say it's over bro, man. I started crying

1:11:15Shannon Sharpe:He's I got seven you said I got seven years longer than I expected Hmm, we good you say now you do today now you carry it on I Took as far as I could take it. It's up to you now

1:11:32Shannon Sharpe:I damn sure would have been I wouldn't been that eat. No I'd have been in the room smeared poop on the wall. I ain't even told you. I ain't even told you. I ain't even told you. I ain't even told nobody anything different. That's what I'd have been. If he did, he'd have to medicate me.

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