Nightcap Hour 1: Rams BEAT Giants in Aaron Donald’s RETURN + Jaxson Dart OUT 4-6 WEEKS + Falcons NAME Michael Penix Jr. QB1

17:22Joe Johnson:Yeah, and crazy, Joe. The thing about it is they shrink your targets, they shrink your opportunities, and then they try to say, oh, there's something wrong with you. They try to say you slow down a little bit. Especially, I think, two years you moved off of that triple crown season. Yep.

17:36Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing was also, Ocho, is that knowing that we can't pay him that salary.

17:43Joe Johnson:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

17:44Shannon Sharpe:Because, and guess what? But we brought Devontae in at similar salary. And we're going to have to pay Puka. We're going to have to come do with Puka. Puka is a younger, bigger, healthier. Stronger. Yes. So, ain't no sense. You know, I'm sure they would love to keep Cooper Cup. But I think Cooper's like, you know what? Let me go on up here to Seattle. I'm from the area. Yeah. My family's from here. I think his wife's family is from that area. I'm from Washington. I don't know if they're from the Seattle area, but I think they're from Washington. And it was a better fit. It was good. Look, Cooper Cupp can't complain.

18:23Shannon Sharpe:He got Super Bowl MVP, an offensive player of the year, the second most receiving yard, the triple crown winner, the second most receiving yards in an NFL season. He had an unbelievable career with the Rams. But it was based on the direction that they were moving in with Puka and Devontae. He don't want to be no third receiver, Ocho. Oh, hell.

18:43Joe Johnson:Absolutely. You know what? You know what I just thought about, too? What's that? Easy for Stafford. But one, you got two receivers that can't be stopped. You can play man to play zone. It doesn't matter what you do. You got two receivers that they get it done a little differently.

18:56Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

18:56Joe Johnson:When it comes to route running, obviously, Devontae Adams is a little bit savvier. You know what I mean? You can put him anywhere. You can put somebody up in front of him. You can play off. It don't matter. He's going to slice and dice you. Puga's a little different. Puga will run out the catch. Yeah, even though he's a little different, he's good. He's good with the ball in his hands. in the immediate short route to hell and deep balls, and he's strong. Yeah, he's tremendous, tremendous high point in the ball, catching the ball in traffic. Yeah. So the funny thing about it is there's a pecking order there, right?

19:27Joe Johnson:Yes. But no matter when you pick, no matter when Matt Stafford chooses to go to either player, they're going to be open every single time.

19:33Shannon Sharpe:Yep.

19:34Joe Johnson:They're going to be open every single time. And obviously, when it comes to Puka, he's probably going to have somebody draped on him most of the time. And when it comes to contested catches, boy, hey, them 50-50 balls turned in 90-10. Somebody draped over him, man, he snatched that thing out the sky.

19:51Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, if that offensive line gets staffed enough time, he's going to be surgical. He gets surgical with it. The Giants couldn't catch a break tonight. Jackson Dart went down with a left knee injury on the opening drive. Per Ian Rapp report, Dart is believed to have suffered an MCL sprain based on initial exams. Dart will get an MRI on Tuesday after their initial x-rays were negative. A Giants coach were caught telling John Harbaugh, head coach John Harbaugh, four to six weeks when Dart went to the locker room. Mm, mm, mm. That hurt, bro.

20:26Joe Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, Joe, I'm sick of these injuries, y 'all. I'm sick of these injuries, y 'all. Every week, every week. Now, you know, it's just not anybody. It's some of the key players. You know, some of the key players, Uncle Joe. Every week it seems like. I know we're only on week two, but if you go back to week one and you look at the number of injuries that have happened before the season even started, we can't even get going yet. You know, people falling and dropping like fire, Joe. I don't know what the problem is.

20:55Shannon Sharpe:Well, you look at Caleb Williams day-to-day, Jane Daniels. we don't know they get they go give us a timetable he going to get a second opinion on that yeah you get jackson dart i mean you see the guys are it and you don't you i mean when you see that ocho you should knock on wood yeah man i ain't never had no injuries man really in the league man i i ain't miss no time hey so you because this is a very this is a very this ain't physical game. This is a violent game. This is organized chaos. I can literally rip your head off and go back to my huddle and do somebody else the same way the next play.

21:40Shannon Sharpe:For four quarters straight. Absolutely. The thing that hurt is, it's like, damn, Jackson Dart can't catch a break, bro. He just fought back from an injury. You know what I'm saying? Then to come out here, but what it looked like it happened it looked like i don't know what kind of shoes he was wearing the cleats but like his cleat got stuck in the ground yeah he got hit low and he got hit high which you know kind of made it look like a hyper extension a little bit yeah yeah so i think i got buckled inside yeah had that mcl

22:10Joe Johnson:yeah i'm gonna say that probably mcl sprain and yeah mcl spring i think the good thing though is when that second hit came to him that was low yeah and the knee went inside yeah yep his foot wasn't planted in the ground, so that's a good thing. Yep. He was somewhat in the air, so it was freely. The motion was free. Obviously, the knee's not supposed to go that way, but it would be a sprain at that point. Hell, Malik neighbors went down. I think he... I don't know.

22:40Shannon Sharpe:McDuffie had them cables on him. That's why he went... Had him zip tied up. He went...

22:49Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, McDuffie different now.

22:51Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

22:52Joe Johnson:That's one of them ones that makes your job easy as a D coordinator. You know what? You so good at what you do, I'm going to let you follow. Joe, we ain't talking about somebody just stay on one side of the field. Wherever their number one goes, Trent McDuffie is following in your face.

23:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Now you're going to have to go. He can play slot and he can play outside, Ocho. That's what makes him so valuable. And I think, hell, he might be better in the slot than he is outside, and he ain't no slouch outside.

23:18Joe Johnson:Yeah.

23:18Shannon Sharpe:Hey, and give McDuffie credit, but when you think about it, you know, Naples playing out pure adrenaline week one. Week two, it didn't settle in. Hey, you know what I'm saying? It's a big difference, bro. Like, he's still battling, dealing with that injury, trying to regain that strength and get back going. Oh, man.

23:39Joe Johnson:Oh, that's crazy, man. I just don't understand. We in week two, you know, I mean, we not even – We're not even playing bumper cars yet. You know, we too, Joe. You know, right?

23:53Shannon Sharpe:Wait till you get some miles on that car and you really get in the rush hour traffic.

23:58Joe Johnson:Yeah.

24:00Shannon Sharpe:Late October, early November. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you notice all these quarterbacks, man, they in the NFC, bro. They in the Cowboys division. When we talk about, you know, the Jaden Daniels and Jackson Dart, The question is, however long, Jackson Dart probably going to be out at least a month, Uncle Ocho. Barely. They're probably going to put him on IR. Can Jameis Winston keep him afloat?

24:26Joe Johnson:Hey. Keep it a bean. Can he keep him afloat? He going to make it entertaining, I can tell you that.

24:32Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. He going to say a hell of a speech now for the game. We know that. He going to do that. But I'm talking about can he get him good quality quarterback play to where they can stay in the fight? I think the thing it would be if they had better. Look, I don't really love any of their receivers. Malik Nabors hadn't been the same since that rookie year. He tore that knee, missed it, and it's going to take him some time. Normally guys are better the year after they tear the knee than right after they tear the knee. So they need time in between tearing it, coming back, so you get full confidence in that knee.

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28:29Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Jameis. What about a— Really? But Jamison's a guy you hope, can he give me two to three games? Yeah. That's it. Hey, good games, though. Look, he can have flashes. He can get hot. We saw Ochoa, remember that Monday night? He threw for almost 500 yards on the Broncos. Yeah. Him and Jerry Judy. So he has the ability. I just don't know, Joe. I think the thing is, like, when you come in with so much, you got a new coach, a big roster turnover, you kind of you want to try to you want your starters to be there and this is not what you wanted to happen especially so early in the damn season because while you bull jibbing you could literally be out of this thing by the time jackson dart gets back back yeah yeah that's what i'm asking that's what i'm asking and oh you know y 'all talk about the weapons that they have uh mooney and likely right now not being not being enough but the thing is jackson dart is a separator because of the dual threat that he presents, you know, the running and the passing.

29:35Shannon Sharpe:So without him, I think it's going to be tough, bro. I think it's going to be tough for them. It's going to be very tough. Because the thing is, Jackson Dart got legs. Yes, sir. You remember that one that if Jameis had got away, you see all that sideline that he had, Jackson Dart's out of there. Oh, yeah. Now, I'm saying he's out of there if they play that coverage. I don't know if they play that coverage because they're not really worried about Jameis Winston running. I've got to worry about Jackson Dart. Jackson are got legs. Certain coverages that I play against Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, I wouldn't think about playing against Lamar Jackson or Cam Newton.

30:06Joe Johnson:No, absolutely not.

30:07Shannon Sharpe:So you have to look at like, okay, who am I playing against? The likelihood of them going, they playing that coverage and everybody vacated. No, I can't have him jump out to win and take off on me because everybody has their back turned to him. So they got their work cut out for him. They really do. Brian Burns, Brian Burns ended up leaving the game with a left ankle injury. He's the best defensive player. I just everything, the injuries are already starting to mount up for the Giants. Yeah, it hurts your expectations. Obviously, everybody comes in thinking they can win the Super Bowl, but just to even make the playoffs and to lose your starting quarterback with the performance that he put on last week, Ocho.

30:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

31:00Shannon Sharpe:Well, good luck. Yeah, yeah, the Giants got their work cut out for them. They do. You got the Eagles in that division who look good. The Cowboys played really, really well yesterday, especially Dak heating up with C.D. Lamb. They're getting into their rhythm. George Pickens is going to catch fire here sooner or later. They're going to make a concerted effort to get him the ball. I hope so. Because the thing is, I don't want to lose him. Yeah. I know the longer I go without getting him touches and targets, the, the, the easier it is for him to, to, to drift. He, we've seen that. We saw that, uh, with that Thanksgiving, when he was in Pittsburgh, against Detroit, that Brian shot, however, ended up having a conversation with him because he was drifted, dropped a couple of passes that it got one intercepted.

31:44Shannon Sharpe:But I think the thing is, you got to make a concerted effort. He's a guy that I, if I give him the ball, if I give him a couple of touches early, Oh, I can have, I got him all game. Yeah. Yeah. But I think you do have to talk to him as a coach just to keep reiterating that, look, we're going to get you the ball. We're trying to get you the ball. You know what I mean? Because y 'all know I want him to stay engaged too, Uncle Ocho. You know how it is. Cass ain't getting the rock. He's like, damn this. So I want him to stay engaged. And I think if we continue to play good ball, his time will come.

32:17Joe Johnson:Yeah, I ain't trying to hear all that.

32:18Shannon Sharpe:His time will come, bro. I ain't trying to hear all that.

32:21Joe Johnson:Hey, his time should have came in week one. You done had all season to prepare. You done made me stick around. You didn't want to pay me. You made me sign the franchise tag for the little 27. I signed that. I ain't causing no problems all season long. I stood on the table for him. I come back. He's happy doing everything he's supposed to do. Now we in week two. We talk about, oh, we going to get you the ball. I ain't trying to hear that shit.

32:46Shannon Sharpe:Hold on, hold on. Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho.

32:48Joe Johnson:Hold on. You know, it's my turn right now. because it's your Cowboys that's playing with his value. It's your Cowboys. All y 'all were screaming about it, bring him back. We want him back. And now look, we in week two. He ain't looking nothing like. You know what? Don't worry about it. You're right.

33:03Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is, Ocho, I will say this. All he needs to do is walk off the field the last game of the season, whatever that is, healthy, and he going to get paid. Yes, sir. That's all he got to do. Numbers aside, yes, you like to see him put up numbers like he put up last year so he could go ahead and pole vault and reset it. But even if he doesn't, if he walks off the field healthy, somebody's going to pay him north of$35,$36 million. And that's all he – hey, somebody's going to give him a five-year,

33:39Shannon Sharpe:$140,$155,$165 million, Ocho? We ain't taking that. Huh? We ain't taking that. What? I said we not taking that. What you mean you're not taking four years,$150?

33:52Joe Johnson:48, 150, so that's what, 30 and a half.

33:55Shannon Sharpe:That's about 37 a year.

33:57Joe Johnson:Nope, we ain't taking that, no.

33:58Shannon Sharpe:Okay.

33:59Joe Johnson:No, absolutely not.

34:00Shannon Sharpe:Hey, y 'all stop putting stuff out there in the air like that. You know, you talking about he just gotta get through the season. Hell no, we gotta win some games. We gotta put up some numbers. What you mean?

34:11Joe Johnson:Well, how you gonna put up numbers? And I'm right here looking like a Christmas ornament. It's just two games, bro. You tripping on two games? Just two games, but you seen Devontae Adams tonight? It ain't easy to throw him to the ball.

34:27Shannon Sharpe:Guess what? Guess what? Week one, Pick would have had something like that if he ain't had them two drops he had. Oh, now we want to talk about the drops. We got to mention the Bocho.

34:36Joe Johnson:Okay, okay, we'll mention him. Okay, so we're going to justify it not throwing the ball because he had two drops. Okay.

34:42Shannon Sharpe:No, no, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think.

34:44Joe Johnson:See, Bocho, they mutually exclusive. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, I'll come with you when you're right. I'm with you when you're right. But it's cool. You know, you got – hey, listen, 88 got to eat first. 88 got to eat first. I get that. I get that. But, oh, come on now, that slice of pizza. Huh? It's eight slices to that pizza now. He going to get his. Huh? Well, hey, Joe, don't piss me off, boy. You know how I get it, boy. It's football season, boy. God damn, y 'all that told you. I told you how they were going to play with pick. And here we go, week two. They playing with him like I said they were going to do.

35:15Shannon Sharpe:Sean McVay after the game on the difference between week one, blowout loss in week two blowout win sometimes you win sometimes you learn and sometimes you have a dumb ass coach that make travel plans puts puts you in a bad spot yeah who in the hell would fly that basically you flew all that way for a day who flies to australia for a day mick bae mick bae because you forget even if you're a businessman you got a business meeting that you're not going to put your body through the rigors boy i mean flying that far on a plane beats your body up now just imagine your body is beat up and then 28 hours later you got to go play a football game and get beat up even more and then guess what get back on the plane and bring your ass back to the states yeah yeah yeah i know they asked mcveigh about these travel plans before they took off here they ain't just bring that on him the day before hey you know what uncle joe you

36:09Joe Johnson:have to think in the past i'm not sure what year it was they did it the same way using the same method to go play jacksonville now obviously it's a different team but i think jacksonville went to london didn't it where did jacksonville go was it london i'm not sure where they went or where they played but whatever it was they molly whopped them they yeah yeah yeah that was last year when stafford had like five touchdown passes they molly walked them so we like okay cool you know what i think we can do this and then still keep the same method of travel the same way if we're gonna get the same results we got when we play jacksonville even though flying to australia is a little bit further.

36:43Shannon Sharpe:A little bit further. So, hey, I don't know. Most games with two touchdowns all time. Most games with two receiving touchdowns all time. Jared Rice has 44. He's in the number one slot. Randy Moss has 36. He's in the number two slot. Terrell Owens is in the three spot with 32. Devontae Adams is tied in a three-way tie with 29 with Chris Carter and Marvin Harrison Jr. Senior. Most receiving touchdowns all time. Jerry Rice, 197, Hall of Fame. Randy Moss, 156, Hall of Fame. Terrell Owens, 153, Hall of Fame. Chris Carter, 130, Hall of Fame. Marvin Harrison Sr., 128, Hall of Fame. Larry Fitzgerald, 121, Hall of Fame.

37:32Shannon Sharpe:Devontae Adams now has 119 receiving touchdowns. Woo-hoo! Is Devontae a lock for the Hall of Fame guys?

37:43Joe Johnson:Oh yes, sir. I mean, listen, a blind man can see that, so can a blind squirrel. He'd been a lock for it. Hell, he was a lock for it in the conversation when he was at Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers. He thought they was unstoppable. Huh? Listen, the masses of the back shoulder. Man, what, a lock. Matter of fact - First ballot? Yeah. First ballot. look the fact that he just didn't even be a ballot

38:09Shannon Sharpe:what are we talking about

38:14Shannon Sharpe:go ahead go ahead Joe yeah first ballot he just won him a chance he just won he got a ring now don't he yeah no what do you mean no where he got a ring from he wasn't in Green Bay was he in Green Bay in 2011 I don't think so I'm talking about with the Rams didn't he just win with the Rams no he wasn't there with Rams when Cooper Cuppman won

38:36Joe Johnson:In 2021, yeah, he wasn't there yet.

38:39Shannon Sharpe:He ain't got anything. Who just won the Super Bowl? Oh, Seattle just on tripping. Hold on, Joe.

38:43Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, even without that ring, you know, I mean, it's a great accolade to have. It's a great achievement to have in getting a Super Bowl ring. But him Hall of Fame, he's a Hall of Fame even without the ring. Yeah, the rings are team accomplishments.

38:58Shannon Sharpe:The Hall of Fame is about you. What did you do? How dominant in the era that you played, how dominant were you? I'm saying even when you dominant though and you got one of them under your belt you're a lot oh yeah yeah I get what y 'all say we can debate this at some other time we know T.O. should have been a Hall of Famer a first ballot what are we talking about they play too much huh T.O. had 153 he's third all time he's third all time in double digit touchdown games third

39:34Joe Johnson:it's personal it's personal that's why they did what they did with the voting stuff hey joe they played with yo hell they played with bill so if they played with bill which is the and you know bill was after t so if they played with t which is they and they played with bill too so

39:46Shannon Sharpe:we already know well they have some people voting they shouldn't have no damn vote anyway man who man who you telling damn they should let me they gotta fix that bro hey they gotta fix it because i look at it like this here if if some of the members that's in the hall of fame if they don't get a vote. Y 'all just arbitrarily just give anybody a damn vote. Right. Right. Guys like John McCain from Houston. That man been voting for 50 years. Why y 'all pull his vote? There are some guys that they shouldn't remain to vote because I think I know John very, very, very well and I think he's always been professional but there's some of these jack legs going there and they take personal bias in there with them.

40:29Yeah.

40:32Shannon Sharpe:look it's like with anything you're not gonna get 100 because it's just like hey you vote for me i vote for you you vote for my guy ocho i vote for your guy next year you know i get a you know joe coming up next year now and i know that's your guy so i'm gonna drum up some support for joe and so we you know we push that thing on through yeah yeah and it got a nice little system going now but no no no no but see the thing if everybody talk about the ring code no that's what y 'all wanted because y 'all quick to holler he ain't got no ring yep no regardless of the sport but he ain't got no ring basketball he ain't got no rings he ain't got as many rings as this guy so he got to be he can't be as good if he don't have as many rings now if that prevents someone from getting in if y 'all talk about the ring culture is going crazy no y 'all started this yeah the moment social media because everybody everybody get an opportunity to voice their opinion whereas before social media ain't nobody nobody cared about your opinion because nobody heard your opinion unless you was in the barbershop and we was having a conversation in the shop we standing on the block and we at the court somewhere joe oh joe yeah now you got social media you tweet something somebody retweeted oh man oh you heard what he said yeah yeah yeah no it all depends and

41:49Joe Johnson:and don't have a voice. If you have a voice, if you have a voice and a platform.

41:55Shannon Sharpe:Well, the thing is everybody has a voice. The platforms are a lot different.

42:00Joe Johnson:Yeah.

42:01Shannon Sharpe:It's amplified now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, it don't matter how many followers you got, bro, you can be seen or noticed just by a clip. You know what I'm saying? Yep. That's why you have to be careful like Joe, you know, as somebody that's in the hall. I tried. Well, what do you think? Man, look here. Because what y 'all going to do, how they going to clip it, Ocho? Hall of Famer Shannon Sharp says. Yeah. Now, I don't think he should be in. Or I think he should be in. Bro. So, I was like, look. Unless it's like slams, like Travis Kelsey. Yep. Gronk. Yep. Devontae Adams. Yep. No brain.

42:44Shannon Sharpe:Bro, stop asking me. Why do y 'all care? I mean, they used to, do you think this guy is? You don't care what I say. You're going to vote who you want to, when you're going. It's just like voting. When you go in that little booth, you can tell me you voted for Joe. How do I know you did? Hello. Hello. I don't know what you say. You can say anything. Yeah. Yeah. How many people? Well, this is who I voted for. Well, damn, if everybody that I talked to voted for him, how the hell did this other guy get in office? Somebody lied. But that's just the way it is. It is. I don't think Devontae catching Jerry.

43:22Shannon Sharpe:As a matter of fact, I don't think nobody catching Jerry, Ocho. Absolutely not. It's impossible.

43:28Joe Johnson:It had to be a one-man show offensively with injuries for about a 20-year span.

43:34Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Yes. Could he? He's about 30. so to catch T.O. he needs about he needs 34 to tie 35 to break you think he has that many more years left in him

43:52Joe Johnson:is he going to get the ball enough though is he going to get the ball enough it's not even about having the years you have to understand how dominant T.O. was throughout the entirety of his career regards to where he went and he did so much with the opportunities that he got whether it was short a joke with it short, intermediate, he taking it to the house, boy. As opposed to being a receiver, it's what T.O. did when he got the ball in his hand. Man, ain't no telling. And then it's hell bringing him down.

44:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You go back and look at T.O. T.O. was putting up numbers when he was playing number two to Jerry. Yep. People forget that, that he played alongside Jerry. Yeah. That's why they did what they did because they was like, you know what? He can be a younger Jerry. Mm-hmm. and they let Jerry go. And Jerry's like, y 'all let me go? Y 'all really did that? And Jerry went ahead at 40, 1 ,200 yards. You'll never see that again. You'll never see another 40-year-old receiver with 1 ,200 yards. Why you think that is, though, huh? Play that long, man. Because Jerry just had that one year. Think about it.

45:02Shannon Sharpe:Jerry missed. Was that 96 or 97? That was 97. Jerry tore his ACL like the first or second game of the season and came back and played that same season, Ochoa Joe. Yeah. So everybody talk about it. And what happened was he caught two touchdowns on us on a Monday night. Now that I think about it. So he tears his ACL in September and comes back in December. What?

45:34Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, that's unheard of. That's four months. that's unheard of especially the fact that they didn't have the technology they do now back then especially when it comes to an extensive injury like that unheard of yeah

45:51Shannon Sharpe:well you gotta be working to come back that early from a torn ACL four months yeah come on man I think they did his with a cadaver I think they took an ACL out of somewhere I don't think they took part of his patella and did it like that. I think they did a cadaver with Jerry. But obviously, Jerry's the gold standard. Moss, 156. I mean, let that sink in for a second. As great as Moss was, Jerry is still 41 touchdowns in front of you. That's crazy. Think about it. Oh, Ocho, 41 touchdowns, that's four seasons.

46:30Joe Johnson:That's a lot. That's a lot. Yes! Yeah, when you get to comparing, you know, when you get to comparing the numbers, you know, that Jerry was able to put up, you know, during his time, it's unbelievable. It's crazy. It's crazy.

46:44Shannon Sharpe:Like a 10-time first-team All-Pro? I mean, you make All-Pro a couple of times, you're like, damn, Jerry was like 10 times. Hey. 13-time Pro Bowler.

46:57Shannon Sharpe:Go ahead, Joe. Hey, you know what that means? What that? That man loved the game, bro. Oh, he did. You got to love the game. To be able to play that long and to play up in your 40s, bro, you got to love the game, bro. 20 years. Yeah, you got to love it. You got to love the preparation. I ain't talking about just going to. Whatever you're chasing, flex your next with new On Plus 12-milligram nicotine pouches. Crushing that big Prezzo? Lock in. Blowing up a new personal best? Psych up. Planning the next guy's getaway? Get after it. With the strength to satisfy and the comfort of nickel silk mesh, flex your next with On Plus, the 12 milligram done right.

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50:45Shannon Sharpe:Going out there on game day when you smell that popcorn, popping you hear me i'm talking about when ain't nobody looking ain't nobody watching you running them you running them hills you doing your push-ups you you know what i'm saying yeah well you hey the preparation is everything bro he got he had to love it he loved it from mississippi valley damn mississippi valley state him a satellite top uh really satellite top hold on somebody at my though. They're probably telling you to be quiet. That's what they're going to tell you. I think he catches Chris Carter. I'm not sure he catches T.O. and Moss.

51:28Shannon Sharpe:Devontae? Yeah. But how far is he from Chris Carter and Moss? He's 11 touchdowns. He's 11 from tying, 12 from break passing Chris Carter. He's 40. He's 30. He's 35 touchdowns behind T.O. and 38 touchdowns behind Randy. He needs 37 to tie Randy, 38 to break it. 34 to tie Moss, 35 to break it. He's going to have to play another couple years to get that one. I think he's going to need to play a latte.

52:02Joe Johnson:Hey, man, let me say here. Thank you, Cambodia. Appreciate that. You know, she's in the head. I'm like, okay, okay, okay. Okay, my baby sent me some cards.

52:11Shannon Sharpe:Oh, you get Uber Eats at a hotel?

52:14Joe Johnson:No, yeah. She made that call. Boy, you know, my baby don't play. What are you talking about? Man, I get room service. And you see what time it is too, huh? Yeah. She made Starbucks open back for me and sent me a coffee, Uber Eats, and the hotel bought it upstairs for me while I'm on the show.

52:29Shannon Sharpe:Hey, where are you?

52:31Joe Johnson:I'm in Houston. I drive to Dallas at 5 a.m. So when we get off, I'm going to just hit the road because I ain't dealing with that traffic. I ain't dealing with that traffic. Houston got too many X's. Hey, Unk, you missed one exit. You got to drive 30 miles. I ain't messing with that traffic. I'm going to get on when ain't nobody driving. I got to do some stuff in Dallas tomorrow, then I'm back to Miami. Oh, no.

52:59Shannon Sharpe:The Falcons have named Michael Penix Jr. their starting quarterback for Thursday's game against the Packers. Penix has deemed his reconstructive ACL ready after splitting reps last week with the ones. So Penix is good to go today. guys what can we expect from Michael Penix Jr. Short week

53:19Joe Johnson:Well your guess is as good as mine because I'm not sure how much time and what he did when he was in training camp I don't know because now the bullets are flying it's go time for real

53:33Shannon Sharpe:I think Penny's going to be I think he's going to be pretty good game one but I think as the season goes on uncle and ocho you know keep trying to keep trying to stay upright keep their body strong i think that's what he's going to be dealing with but i think they're dribbling he'll be able to get through the third they play thursday night right yes yeah i got him going out there doing this one too man i got pennies going out there using them weapons moving them chains getting it done i'm listening i'm listening to this shot of him you're listening hell yeah oh good I need him to make decisions quick, and I want to see KD get away.

54:16Shannon Sharpe:And who would they play? The Packers. Oh.

54:23You know what?

54:24Joe Johnson:I like that. I like that. But when you think about what the Falcons have, Uncle Joe, when you think about what they have, you know, they have some of the better positions at three of their positions. They have some of the better players at three positions offensively. You got Drake London, who's a phenomenal receiver. He's a very good receiver. You got Kyle Pitts. You got the best running back in the league, you know, depending on who you ask. Some might pick Jameer Gibbs, but B. John Robinson. When you have a trifecta like that, it really shouldn't matter who's at the quarterback position. But the quarterback play has been so bad, even with that trifecta, you still suck.

55:04Yeah.

55:04Shannon Sharpe:It matters. It matters who had the quarterback position, Ocho.

55:08Joe Johnson:Yeah, I know what you mean, Joe, but when you got talent around you like that, that's that good? You talk about premier players at their positions? Come on now.

55:17Shannon Sharpe:Ocho.

55:18Joe Johnson:Yo, you can go out there right now for the Falcons, boy, and put up 28 points. If I was quarterback? You handing off the Bijan.

55:25Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You going to Drake London.

55:28Joe Johnson:And you got five pitch.

55:29Shannon Sharpe:Some of the throws I seen some of them boys making out there, I could damn sure make them. See what I mean? Some of the throws they missing. I damn sure can do them.

55:41Shannon Sharpe:That's what I can do. Look, it's a short week for everybody else except him because he hadn't played the first two weeks. Right. Now, because everything gets moved up. You get no off days. A lot of it's going to be board work. Can't put your body, you're sore. Yeah. So a lot of stuff, a lot of it is walkthroughs. Yeah. And guys are going to have to be very attentive to details in order to pick up the nuances of what you'll be able to do on a normal work week, which is Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, walkthrough board work on Saturday. You miss all of that. Yeah. You miss all of that. I just I know what the expectations are for the Falcons you know you got rid of Raheem he moves on you try to bring it but it didn't make sense to me Tua injury prone the quarterback that he's coming to compete with injury prone and they say you know what we got two injury prone quarterbacks that being said you know what there's a good chance the third guy that we bring the other guy he might have to play.

56:55Shannon Sharpe:You know what? I think the perfect guy for us is Cooper Rush. Said no one ever except the Falcons. But they got tour for a little of nothing, though. They ain't really have to pay nothing for tour. Joe, I get it. But if you're in a situation, I understand. He'll$500. But you know if you pay$500 for something, you know he's going to put your ass down side the road, don't you, Joe? You know that. You already know what's going to happen. When you bought that car for that$30,$50, you have to every time you stop filling up with oil, you already know what you get because you didn't play with three fitted for it.

57:33Shannon Sharpe:Fact, fact, fact. But I think the fact that he was left-handed played a part too here because it keep the offense running. You know what I mean? They pretty much, you know, Penny's left-handed, he left-handed. I just think it was a good gamble for him. It didn't work out. It didn't work out. Wait a minute, Joe. What you mean, it didn't work out? Because he hurt. Oh, damn, he hurt. Did you see how he got hurt? Ain't nobody even touching him. Imagine if somebody hit him. Cracked back. Come on, man.

58:01Joe Johnson:Man, Tua finna come back and go crazy, bro. Man, boy. You hear me? Uh-uh. What you think? Tua finna come back when he – wait, he never got hit. He probably got little back spasms. He did it to himself. He never hit. He hadn't gotten hit.

58:20Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. The man doing this with the ball. Oh, oh.

58:28Joe Johnson:Hey, don't do my quarterback like that. Don't do my quarterback like that. Don't do a move sort like that. One thing about the Samoans, boy, you know, listen, come to adversity, Joe. Oh yeah, oh yeah. We gon' come back and fight now.

58:43Shannon Sharpe:They normally don't get hurt. That's the, that's the, like, bro, They know that don't get hurt.

58:54Shannon Sharpe:All the ones I play with, ain't never put no tape on their ankles, ain't never do none of that.

59:02Joe Johnson:I'm with you when you're right, Carl.

59:04Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you said them boys tough as wet leather, ain't it, man? What? What? What? How you a D tackle, you playing in low top shoes and no tape? You got on footies. You got on footies. Come on, man.

59:22Joe Johnson:It was different. I played with a few Samoans. Yeah.

59:27Shannon Sharpe:And them Jokers be strong as all get out, Joe. Man. I'm talking about like bitching 450, 500 pounds. Like it ain't nothing. Squatting like 600, 700.

59:37Joe Johnson:Like it ain't nothing.

59:41Shannon Sharpe:Mm-hmm. Man, I played with a guy named Martana Vasa. I'm talking about no tape, no weight belt, no nothing. Just benching 4-5.

59:52Joe Johnson:Hey, like it's nothing, huh? Yeah!

59:55Shannon Sharpe:Like somebody benching 225. Damn. He probably could bench like 5-30, 5-40. What position he played? D-tackle?

1:00:04Joe Johnson:Got to be over the D-tackle, Joe. Every time. Right? Well, I seen big old Vince Wilford, huh? And there were five places on east side? Yeah.

1:00:16Shannon Sharpe:in there playing around like nothing you said hold on 545 45 place on east side five place on each side is like 500 it's like 495. damn you remember this

1:00:31Joe Johnson:vince wilfork joe no who was that dude with the patriots play with the patriots big d tackle

1:00:37Shannon Sharpe:what was being number 95. oh you know what i do remember i know you talking about my Yeah, yeah, he said like you 75 75 that's what it was 75.

1:00:48Joe Johnson:Yeah, Joe he and they're playing around with them And then he and coming down slow with it.

1:00:54Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I met him and I met him and his wife When actually when they played in the Super Bowl in Indy, I met him at Country Kitchen He and his wife and the kid the family was in there. Yeah, hey, maybe that spread He had a spread, man. I said, boy. But no, that's what's the most surprising because on average, if you look at anybody that's played in the NFL that had some more teammates, them jokers really don't get hurt. Yeah. Hey, them jokers grab a bag of ice, something ain't going to be this big. They already kind of like this big. But then they be like this big. They grab two bags of ice.

1:01:37Shannon Sharpe:I say, man. man? How you walking, bro? Man, them juggles be strong. Them juggles do not get hurt, man. I'm telling you, man. They build different. I know exactly what you mean. Oh, Joe, say, hey, I had a couple of teammates. I'm trying to think.

1:02:02Shannon Sharpe:yeah I played with it with a move a big move a more taller more teller in Baltimore he was a guard man if you could be folded up if I get bit like some of them linemen get bit Ocho somebody run a someone somebody run up their back are you whiplash I'd be done I'd be done for like

1:02:26Joe Johnson:six I want I wanted to do offensive linemen be upset when the running back, obviously you don't make the right cut, left or right, and you just run right at them. Yeah. Don't bother them. You think the linemen wear back flaps too? No.

1:02:39Shannon Sharpe:They all wear them damn knee braces though. No, most of them don't wear the knee brace. What? In college, a lot of colleges make them wear knee braces. But unless you've had something done to your knees or had a knee injury, they don't wear them. But think about it. if you're an offensive lineman, it's almost a given that you're gonna get rolled up on at some point in the game. Most of them tackles, they want to be out there sweet. Look at Big Trent. Look how Trent be dressing. He got on all the LV. He got on all the Blin-Siaga.

1:03:11Joe Johnson:Hey, Big Trent be out there like your receiver, Joe. Yes! Yes. He be clean though.

1:03:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. They used to have no pads in their pads. I said, come on, bro. What do you mean you ain't got no pads in your pads? They used to be out there with no pads in their pants, just like the wire receivers and DBs. Damn. Try to look sexy.

1:03:34Shannon Sharpe:I said, nah. But, no, I think the thing is it's going to be very, very interesting to see how pennies play. He's their last hope because Cooper Rush ain't there. Strand's not ready to play. Yeah. And Tua, you don't know if he wins. Check this out. Friend of the show, Kyle Pitts. Here is Kyle Pitts trying his best not to laugh after being told he finally has a real quarterback now. Look at this video, guys. Hey, Kyle. How are you? Hey, Dan. How you doing? I'm doing well, man. You have a quarterback now. How did Kevin announce it to you guys as a team? How did Kevin announce it to you guys as a team?

1:04:21Shannon Sharpe:That's what you call what we got?

1:04:25Joe Johnson:Hey, that caught him off guard a little bit. He had to bite that bottom lip, but I can't. Yeah, caught him off guard a lot of bit. Yeah, I can't show no emotion. I can't show no emotion. But on the inside, he might have let out a little chuckle.

1:04:41Shannon Sharpe:A lot of chuckle. All you have to do is a quarterback in that situation. when you have that kind of talent surrounding you, just get the ball out your hand. Just know what the hell you're supposed to do and just be the point guard and distribute. You ain't got to do much. That's it. That is it.

1:05:06Dang.

1:05:07Shannon Sharpe:It is so frustrating when the starter goes down. And I'm not so sure they was in love with Tua either because none of them have the strongest of arms. Right. All things being equal, Well, give me somebody that can get me the ball in a hurry. Because they throw balls that get you hurt. Hey, you be waving the ball to come on like you a relay runner. Come on, bring it in to me. You be waving the ball along, Joe. Damn, help me get here. Man, come on, ball, help me get here. Yeah. I don't know. I really and truly don't know what they're going to be able to do. Yeah, I think Penny's going to be all right, Anka Ocho.

1:05:49Shannon Sharpe:You got to think about it. You got to have some type of chemistry and continuity with these guys, bro. Cooper Rush and Tua, they ain't had that. They didn't have that with these guys. I think the fact that Penix has played with these guys before, I think he should fit seamlessly right in, bro, because it's really his squad at the end of the day. You know what I mean? He just got to go out and act like it, man. He got to play with confidence, Anka Ocho. confidence is everything bro let me ask you a question Joe when you was in Atlanta how many two guards they brought in to compete with you for the two guard spot it wasn't none bro Ocho when you was in Cincinnati how many wide receivers they bring in to you to compete with you at the X sure it wasn't really nothing out there to compete with me that's what I'm saying they brought another guy in to compete with you Matt Ryan says I'm bringing competition Matt Ryan said it I ain't say it so I don't want chat y 'all think I'm making this up.

1:06:45Shannon Sharpe:That's what he said. I'm bringing someone in to compete.

1:06:53Shannon Sharpe:Where else are they bringing somebody? What other quarterback has somebody come in to compete with him for that starting job? Even take Cam Ward. Second year guy. They bring anybody to compete with him? Mm-mm.

1:07:16Shannon Sharpe:When they bring somebody to compete with you, they tell you, you're not it.

1:07:21Joe Johnson:And shoot, they in a bad situation over there too. Hey, I don't know. The Titans, they didn't went through what? Malik Willis, Will Levis. Ryan Tannehill. Ryan Tannehill, now they trying to say him. I think Marcus, wasn't Marcus Mariota there too? Marcus Mariota was there as well.

1:07:43Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I don't think they telling Penix he's not it. I don't think they want his ass to get comfortable. Hey, man, you're going to have to compete for this job. This ain't just your job. You got to come out and show us that you're worthy of leading this team. But I don't think they just – I don't think they're kicking him to the side or saying that he's not it. They're just letting him know, man, look, you need to keep your antennas up, partner. Hey, Joe. No, they said bringing somebody to compete with you for this job. Yeah, and they dead ass too. If you that guy, they're not bringing anybody in to compete with you.

1:08:20That's your job because they know quarterbacks.

1:08:23Shannon Sharpe:They don't – what did they say? They'll normally remove a quarterback just so you're not looking over your shoulder. But, damn, you got to have some insurance, huh? He got an injury history. You think he going to play 16 games? And you brought a guy in that had more injury history than him. So you got to take out two policies. And then you got another guy that can't play. So you got three guys, got three insurance policies on all of them.

1:08:53Joe Johnson:Yeah, that sucks. That sucks.

1:08:58Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. Well, I know Pennies, he got to step up to the plate. It's his time. I sure hope so. It's his time, bro. this team, this Falcons team they just need a quarterback who can get the ball in the hands of some of these playmakers they got whatever you're chasing flex your next with new On Plus 12mg nicotine pouches crushing that big Prezzo lock in, blowing up a new personal best, psych up planning the next guy's getaway get after it, with the strength to satisfy and the comfort of nickel silk mesh, flex your next with On Plus, the 12 milligram done right. Find a store at onnicotine.com.

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