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30:39Yeah, yeah. Hey, that's a man. Hey, that's Two-Face. That's a man be hanging around brothers.

30:49Hey, he clean. That's a man that came from business. I like that. I like that. I like that, Matt. As clean as he look, that's exactly how he played. He played his ass off the night. He played exactly like that. He scared me a little bit when he went down. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he grabbed his knee brace, Ocho. Yeah, I thought it was pinching him a little bit. Yes, yes. When you get tackled, the goddamn knee brace start pinching you. So when they're pulling this calf, I'm like, what? It must be pinching. either the knee brace is pinching him or he cramping one or the other.

31:20Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And them little calves, he got it. That one, he hurt nothing. Because he got, first of all, he got a knee brace on. So that calf is not as strong as what it needs to be because he wears that knee brace, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? You got to build strength back up in that calf in order for it to. But he played his tail off. I mean, both quarterbacks played well. Don't get me wrong. Both quarterbacks played well. So my concerns with the 49ers, Ocho, without both in the game, they really couldn't generate no pressure. No pressure, yeah. They really couldn't generate any pressure. And the last thing you want a guy like Matthew Stafford to have is time.

31:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Because he was dealing, man. He was, woo! That joke, you throw that, Ocho, can he throw it or what? I might take that back. I want to play with Matthew Stafford. We keep talking about, Sheldon, if you can come back and play, and we keep talking about Mahomes and Burrow and Herbert and Allen and this one. Man, give me more four-man Stafford. Why y 'all out there bumping him? You talk about, you got to think now, Matthew Stafford is a legitimate gunslinger. It's only about four, maybe four quarterbacks in the league right now that have the kind of ball Matt Stafford throws with that kind of velocity and can take any throw on the field.

32:32Any throw. Even though Aaron Rodgers is old, he's one of them. Matt Stafford is another. I'm trying to think gunslinger, gunslinger.

32:41Shannon Sharpe:You see the difference. When I think of gunslingers, I think guys that'll take unnecessary risk. That's really not what Aaron Rodgers is. Now, Aaron Rodgers can make every throw. Matthew Stafford can make every throw. Change arm angles. Both guys can change arm angles. But sometimes, if you look at the interceptions for Matthew Stafford, you look at the interceptions for Aaron Rodgers, and you'll see a vast difference. Because Rodgers was really never willing to take unnecessary risk. Matthew Stafford, he believed he could throw a football through a keyhole. I'm just going to get a football through a keyhole.

33:12Shannon Sharpe:Let me show you. And he would try it. Now, he's gotten better. Now, can you imagine what he would have been had he had Sean McVay his whole career? But he can throw it, Ocho. I mean, he can flat spin the ball. And now, I expect him, when I watch a game, I want to see one time where he look over here and throw the ball over there. Wait a minute. He did that again? He did that again? tonight. He didn't do it tonight. I remember he did it against the Bengals in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Oh, he did it. He did it two weeks in a row. And he's running down the field because he's mic'd up. Don't look at my eyes.

33:50Shannon Sharpe:Don't look at my eyes. Don't effing look at my eyes. But hey, but this I think when the NFL envisioned, look, they tried to make these games divisional matchups so they're really close. Nobody's having to go a great distance. You don't want somebody on the West Coast having to go east. Right, right. East Coast having to go west. Let it be close proximity. It's already tough enough playing. I can just imagine because I didn't really start to feel good until Friday. So I can imagine playing a game on Sunday and then turning around and playing another game on Thursday. And especially as you got older, Ocho, it took longer and longer to get that old man up out of you.

34:32Shannon Sharpe:To recover. Yeah. But this was an unbelievable ball game. Thank you, NFL. Thank you, Rams. Thank you, 49ers, because you guys played your ass off on a very, very short week. This is the type of game that we want to see on Thursday. Not some bull jive. You know, hey, this is what we're looking for, Ocho. See, Matt, final stats, he had 22 carries, 57 yards, eight receptions for 82 yards, 30 touches, almost 140 yards of total offense, and that's what he gives you, his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield. You can line him up in the slot. You can line him up out wide. Obviously, you know you can handle the ball.

35:12Shannon Sharpe:He can run between the tackles. I was like, guys, if you watch Stanford's offense, why are you going to be surprised that he can run the ball between the tackles? Because that was a pro offense. He ran between the tackles. That's what he ran. They ran counter and power all the time at Stanford. He's not a – look, I understand he's small in stature. You look at a guy who was probably 5 '8", maybe 205. But don't let that fool you. He runs behind his pass. Yes, I mean, the amount of touches that he has, Ocho, yeah. I mean, the body's going to break down because, like I said, he's not Derrick Henry.

35:45Shannon Sharpe:He's not 245, 250. He's not one of these bruising backs. But he can run with power. Obviously, he can run with speed. He can catch the football. I mean, he's multi-talented. But I'm not surprised that he had the success or he's having the success that he's had in the NFL based on what I saw him do in college, which was run between the tackles. Because that's what you want to see. Because it's hard to just make a living in the NFL, Ocho, just running outside the tackle. You have to run in that box. You got to. And most of the time, especially with a running back like Christian McCaffrey, he can manipulate the first man and not allow him to get a clean hit most of the time.

36:24Shannon Sharpe:And he's falling forward. I remember when Barry's coming out there like he's a little undersized. I said, well, who's going to hit him though? I hate, I hate, I hate those. We had never seen anything like Barry though. I mean, I understand what they're saying, Ocho, because we had never seen anything like Barry. We'd never seen a guy like that, that ran that style. Man, your coach, you couldn't stop all that dancing. No, hit the hole, hit the hole. For whatever reason, they allowed Barry Sanders to be Barry Sanders. And I remember Barry Switzer told a story. Thurman Thomas was the starting running back in front of Barry.

37:02Shannon Sharpe:Right. And Barry Switzer said, look, don't hurt the starter because the backup, you don't want to play against the backup. Right. Who says don't hurt the starter because the backup? And they didn't. Yeah. Go back and look at what he did against OU. Go back, man, Barry. Oh, Joe, Barry had games of 300. Yeah. If you held Barry to 170 yards, you would. Yes. you lucky he don't get three that's crazy that man that man had 27 2600 yards and 12 games 11 games oh that's that's you're never gonna see that yeah we we've we've seen nothing like that there have been there have been glimpses of players with the same skill set LeSean McCoy not as explosive because Barry could do all that and he'd get up out of there and be gone B.

37:59John Robinson has a bit of that lateral movement but it's not like Barry Barry was a two foot

38:07Shannon Sharpe:Ocho he would jump and start with two feet and come to balance in two feet and gone again and get up out of there Barry was looking When Barry would lose, he would make a three-yard loss look like the most beautiful 22-yard game you've ever seen in your life. You're like, ooh, boy, you'll see, man. Man, it's second and 13. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about it. But did you see that run? Man, he shook eight people. It should have been a loss of 15. He only lost three. Could you imagine Barry Sanders right now with an offensive line? No. Like Philly? God ain't finna give you all of that Ocho.

38:51Shannon Sharpe:Dang. You wanted that man to have the Cowboys offensive line that Emmitt ran behind. Oh, my God. That wouldn't be fair. No. And he probably wouldn't know what to do. Barrett was used to running and ain't had no blocking. Yeah. So he wouldn't know what to do. Like, Barrett, like, man, I'm supposed to run through there? Yeah, if you want to. But, no, I thought Christian McCaffrey played well. I thought everybody for the 49ers played well. This was a really clean game with the exception of the punch out. And sometimes, Ocho, you know it comes down. When you do something, all turnovers are not created equal.

39:26Shannon Sharpe:No. When you turn the ball over is the most important thing. Where you turn the ball over is the second most important thing. So with that being said, man, you look, I feel bad because Kyron Williams has turned himself into a very good running back. He can run it out of the backfield. He reminds you a lot of Christian McCaffrey because he can do a lot of the same things, Ocho. He can run it. He can run inside. He can run outside. He can catch it. You see, he called a couple of touchdowns. But that turnover, and then they got that late stop. So it was a very clean game. I loved the way the game was played.

40:01Shannon Sharpe:The referees, I didn't feel anything that I feel like I should get out of. Like, damn, ref, you should have let them play with that. I thought the refs called things that were there, but let them play. The quarterbacks were exceptional. really a clean game with the exception of that one turnover. So there's really nothing to be mad about on a Thursday night game to get this kind of performance from the two teams. I think, look, I understand if you're a Rams fan, you disappointed your team lost. In the 49ers, you excited your team won. But as a fan of the National Football League, I think everybody wins tonight.

40:35And again tonight, I have to give another salute to Kendrick Bourne. Boy, you look good, boy. You look good. The definition of next man up.

40:52Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Ocho, but, you know, the thing is, it's hard for me to believe that he was with – wasn't he with the Patriots? Yeah, New England. It's hard for me to believe they got four better receivers than him. But you got to think about this. Situation matters. Yeah. Schemes matter. The play calling matters. you got a new staff in there you missing some of your key players Juwan Jennings is out Rico Percea I'm not sure if I'm saying this his last name right I'm butchering his last name he's out Brandon Ayuka's out next man up and when the opportunity presents itself even with the drop tonight he still had a career night and I hope he continues to build on that next week maybe they give him a little bit more well hell if Jennings coming back is is are you coming back i mean you ain't got no choice oh not now yeah not not come back so with that being said don't show you they ain't got no choice and but like you said sometimes it comes down to an opportunity a situation where you're getting opportunities yeah how many opportunities did he have in new england and who did he have trying to get in the ball now drake may was a rookie and drake may has gotten better and towards the end of the year he got better last year and he's playing really well this year thus far but being in a situation like this, Kyle, one thing, Kyle knows how to get the ball to guys.

42:13Shannon Sharpe:That's something that his dad could always do. When you have Jerry and you deal with me and you deal with Rod, you have Brandon Marshall, so you know how to get the ball to hot receivers and know how to feature them, put them in situations where they can win. That's what it was tonight, Ocho. He got put into a situation and hey, throw the ball to K. Hey, there'll be a situation because I can hear hey, throw the ball to 84. so he's telling hey you know Kyle's in his ear hey I don't have Kittle I don't have Pearsall Pearsall or Pearsall? Pearsall? I'm going to call him RP until I talk to him Pearsall yeah Pearsall and so that's the thing but if you go back and look Kyle has made some really really marginal quarterbacks look really, really good.

43:09Shannon Sharpe:Really good. Really good. So you can imagine what he does when he has somebody. I could just imagine. I don't even want to think about it. Matt Jones finished the game with 49 pass attempts. That's the most by-niners quarterback since C.J. Beathard had 54 in 2018. Matt, after the game, Kyle came up to me before the game, and he was pissed how we were underdogs. So he was like, just let it fly. And I was like, coach, you don't have to tell me twice. The Rams were favored by eight and a half points. Quarterbacks with at least three wins and zero losses this season. The only three. Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Matt Jones.

43:51You heard what you just said. I want you to think about what you just said. The Rams were favored by how much? Eight and a half. Who won the game tonight? 49ers. now I don't mean to fast forward to Sunday how much of the Lions favored by not enough

44:10Shannon Sharpe:I'm just saying now you see where I'm going with this you lying you're going to go to hell because you have to give a count for these lies hey chat don't y 'all listen to Ocho don't y 'all go put your money down on the bingo I'm not saying I ain't saying nothing about no betting but I'm just saying You see how the football guard showed up? The football guard showed up and said, the hell you don't. First of all, Jake Brown ain't Matt Jones. Let's start with that. Your defense isn't the 49ers. Let's start. Let's continue with that. And third of all, third and most important of all, ain't nobody going to confuse Zach Taylor with Kyle Shanahan.

44:56Shannon Sharpe:Let's just state that. There are three simple facts. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay. Wait. You're getting a little too hostile. Calm down. You're getting a little too hostile. Let's wait and see what happens Sunday night. Let's wait and see. Because every time I go to a game, since I retired, every time I go to a game, we win. Now, take with that what you need and what you will. Don't take nothing from that, Chad. Don't y 'all listen to Ocho. they ain't never lost a game when I'm in town. Okay. You're going to be putting stuff in your mama's name.

45:43Shannon Sharpe:The Lions are favored by 10 and a half. Not enough. All right. Sean McVay spoke on his game, losing fourth down decision. It was a bad call. It was a bad call by me. I'm sick right now because I put our players in an ishy spot, and I've got to live with that.

46:03I mean

46:04Shannon Sharpe:most people throw it on the yard most people say if you throw it Ocho what is everybody going to say man why don't you get a ball to Kyron Williams a yard you can't get a yard okay to get a ball to Kyron Williams man Matthew Stafford was dealing why don't you let Matthew Stafford throw come on man you know how this thing go Ocho if you run it and don't get it you should have thrown it you throw it and don't get it you should have run it either way I like the call because when McVay making a call like that he's telling his players one thing I believe in y 'all I believe in you I believe who we have can get us that one yard that's what the players think forget what everybody think on the outside if we get it we don't you know what our coach believe in us well he going for it on fourth one instead of kicking the field goal man nah players like that Do you know how them players feel about Dan Campbell going forward on fourth and four?

46:59Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Three, fourth and two, fourth and one. Oh, hell, man. We run through a goddamn brick wall for him. Mm-hmm. Man, please. You like knowing that your coach has confidence in you and that, you know, hey, guys, you guys going to get it. Y 'all going to back me up. Absolutely. And that's the thing. Your coach, you know, when we were in Baltimore and Brian talking crazy and he going back and forth with Jeff Fisher, he going back and forth with Coach Cowher in Pittsburgh. Mm-hmm. He put it out there. We got to go back it up, man. Yeah. Y 'all heard the man say he talking. Okay. And I did love that.

47:35Shannon Sharpe:That's the one thing. There's a lot to love about Baltimore. I had a great time in Baltimore. My two years, which it could have been longer. But hey, Kira, they don't try to change nothing about you. Just play hard. Talk as much as you want to talk. Just realize now, come Sunday night, you got to back up what you're saying. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Hey, talk all you want to. You get into it. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Time out, time out, time out. What team you talking about? The Ravens. You mean the Ravens that's 1-3 right now? I talking about when I was there. Hold on. I don't know about these Ravens.

48:08Shannon Sharpe:I talking about when I was there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You still part of the team, right? You've been hooping, hollering about the Ravens, and they 1-3, the same Ravens that lost the other night. Bronco country, baby. Hey, listen, you can't say foot or ball or say anything related to anything Ravens. I get to say that because my team beat your team. Who? Don't do that. Oh, now you don't know who you played for. We beat you that bad game. You amnesia. Hold on. Are you talking about the Broncos? Yes. Well, listen, we don't want to hear no old story about the Ravens until they win the game.

48:38Shannon Sharpe:Well, you can't say no. I'll tell you what. Guess what? You won't be able to share no stories for another week. I mean, listen, we'll see about that. Another week and another one. We'll see about that. Okay. One thing about me, I got Faith. I got Faith. Who? Me. You dated somebody named Faith? I don't know nobody but Faith, but Faith Evans. How's she doing? All right, we'll see. We'll see. I want everybody, probably everybody in the chat, probably laughing, saying, oh, the Bengals don't got no chance. Okay, we'll see. We'll see. Oh, Joe, Dylan Gabriel made an interesting comment yesterday when talking about becoming Brown's new QB1.

49:20Shannon Sharpe:Let's take a listen to what Gabriel had to say. I smile because it's like a moment you prep for and you are extremely excited for, but also got to realize that it's extreme focus. And that's what I've continued to harp on. But you wait for the perfect time, you know, you're going to wait a whole lifetime. So for me, I'm just I've always been ready for every moment. Wait for the perfect time. You'll be waiting a lifetime. I like that. Because when you do get your moments and your opportunities, sometimes the ideal situation is never perfect. It's never perfect. The ideal situation that you envision in your head to get the opportunity is never going to be how you envision it.

50:08And that's exactly what it is. Sometimes there are adversity. Sometimes there are obstacles that you have to climb to get said opportunities.

50:20and for him it hasn't been perfect hey man my life my light just went out

50:26Shannon Sharpe:i don't think he was talking about him waiting a lifetime the reports didn't come out that he's told a team not to draft him i don't yeah i don't i don't i don't i don't i don't coincide with what he said and having to do anything with with 12 i don't yeah no it's hard to even no, not even close. Not even close? No, not even close. That would almost be reaching a little bit. That's to me, no.

50:59Shannon Sharpe:So, but I'm trying to figure out how you feel. Why would he say if you wait for the perfect time, you have to wait a lifetime? Well, come on. I'm just asking. Listen, we can't, we can't. That's his words. That's what he came up with. That might be a Sandy's. I don't know. I don't know. But I still don't coincide with what he's saying and having to do anything. It should do it. Look, is it ever going to be perfect, Ocho? I mean, all things being equal, you'd like for the Dolphins to draft you. All things being like, man, let me go home. I want to play for the Dolphins. Or I want to go play with somebody that got a quarterback.

51:37Shannon Sharpe:Yada, yada, yada. But look, and I get it. quarterbacks are different because normally you get a quarterback and he's good he's gonna be there for a period of time and you got to you know you got to wait and hope everything happens i mean i did let me ask you a question ideally yeah do you think tom brady given the choice one to go to new england after they had just given major drew bledsoe the highest paid quarterback in the nfl he had just signed a six-year 100 million dollar deal yeah you think that was the ideal situation for Tom Brady? Absolutely not. What happened? He got hurt. Drew got hurt.

52:15Drew got hurt. And guess what happened? It wasn't an ideal situation, and it wasn't perfect. He made it ideal. Bingo. And the same thing. Joe Flacco's not playing well. Not the ideal situation, because maybe the ideal situation is I drafted in the third round, and I beat Joe Flacco out. in training camp, and I'm the starter week one.

52:39Shannon Sharpe:That's the ideal, perfect situation. I don't believe they're going to let anybody. Look, it's been reported they wanted Kenny Pickett to win the job. And Gabriel B. second, Shadour B. third. I don't ever think there was going to be a situation, Ocho, that a rookie was going to beat Joe Flacco out. I don't. No, I didn't either, based on Flacco. I didn't either. But again, the way to go on who you start with, you start with the veteran who has experience. And when the bottom falls out, then you make a change. The bottom fell out, they made a change. Right. Man, I could have told him the bottom was going to fall out.

53:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, at some point. The bucket was rusty anyway. You talking about the bottom fell out, hell, the bucket rusty. What the hell you think was going to happen to the bottom? Look, at the end of the day, Shador needed to make the best decision for him. You might not agree with what he did, He should just be happy that somebody was going to take him. X, Y, and Z. I get it, Ocho. I get all. I do. I honestly get all of that. Because normally when we come out, Ocho, we just happen to get drafted. Really, I am. I didn't care about it. Man, really. The Bengals, the Patriots, the Colts, anybody could have drafted me.

53:51Shannon Sharpe:I got drafted to the NFL. That was the start of the journey. Yeah. I mean, sometimes people get drafted, Ocho, and they say, oh, yeah. No, bro, your journey just started. You ain't never been to the NFL. I don't know if your draft. My dream was not to just get, was not to be drafted. My dream was to get to the NFL and play. Right. Being drafted is just half the process. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Also, you have to think. Now, let's use a little bit of nonsense. My chances, if I'm Shadour, I don't want to go to Baltimore. You ain't going to see the field. You're not seeing the field. For the next 10, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5.

54:33the next 10, 11 years.

54:35Shannon Sharpe:It's going to be the Ma Jackson show. I know a guy that went to New England when Tom Brady was at his apex named Jimmy Garoppolo. Played a few games, played good enough and then what happened? Tell the people at home that don't know that wasn't around when Jimmy Garoppolo got drafted to the New England Patriots and Tom Brady got suspended because we never know. There's only been one omnipotent one. The all-knowing. Tell the people at home what happened. Jimmy Garoppolo got drafted to the New England Patriots. There's an unforeseen that we could not have possibly known. Tell the people, I want you to take the story over from there.

55:12Shannon Sharpe:Hold on, I forgot the story. You got to bring me up to speed. Jimmy Garoppolo gets drafted to the New England Patriots. Tom Brady gets suspended for four games. Jimmy Garoppolo played well enough to say, guess what happened, Ocho? The 49ers traded a second round pick to get Jimmy G. Now, Lamar Jackson is hurt. If Shadour Sanders is there, guess who's going to get in the game right now, Ocho? Shadour Sanders? If you play well enough, because you know you're not going to keep the job from Lamar Jackson. You play well enough, guess what happens, Ocho? Tell the people I know what could possibly happen.

55:49Yeah, he could probably get traded. Somebody willing to give up picks for him.

55:53Shannon Sharpe:Ta-da! And you get to a situation that you always wanted. because or the cars that you were dealt i'm gonna take my chances going somewhere else i'm gonna take my chances going let me stay with me now go ahead i'm gonna take my chances going somewhere else where the odds are stacked against me those obstacles and those hurdles that adversity that i've always had to overcome in life i'm gonna do it the hard way i got what i I got to wait and wait my turn. Because he's going to get his opportunity, y 'all. Guess what else is stacked against you? What's that? The talent in Cleveland versus the talent in Baltimore.

56:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Because when Jimmy Garoppolo went to New England, guess who he was throwing to? Danny Amendola. Guess who else? Julian Edelman. Guess who else? Rob Gronkowski. Guess who he would be handing the ball off to? Derrick Henry. Guess who he'd be throwing to? Mark Andrews. Guess who else? Rashad Bateman. Guess who else? Dave Flowers Dave Flowers now let me ask you another question who would you rather be throwing the ball to the guys in Cleveland or the guys in Baltimore who would you rather hand the ball off to Derek Henry or the guy in Cleveland I'm just asking I don't know I mean you might like I hear you I hear you it sounds good that would be the ideal situation but would it would Dylan Gabriel just say I don't have the ideal situation The situation I'm in was not perfect.

57:27Shannon Sharpe:But when the opportunity. Hold on, hold on. Can we rewrite that and play that again? Can we rewrite this? I smile because it's like a moment you prep for and you are extremely excited for. But also got to realize that it's extreme focus. And that's what I've continued to harp on. But you wait for the perfect time. You know, you're going to wait a whole lifetime. So for me, I'm just I've always been ready for every moment. if you wait for the perfect time so i i'm shador and i'm in baltimore so i'm waiting on lamar to get hurt because that's what you waiting for in ball what you waiting for in cleveland you waiting for joe flacco to mess up so either way whichever place you go to you're still waiting on the perfect time you're still waiting on the ideal situation where you can get in there and do what you do regardless of what's surrounding you you still got to do what you got to do right when you For one, you know what's funny?

58:22What? You can't focus on what's around you. You can only focus on what you need to do. You got to do what you need to do, regardless of whether you have a great supporting cast or not. Whether I got Derrick Henry or not. Whether I got Dave Flowers or I got goddamn Derrick Henry in the background. I got to do what I got to do and hand the ball off to Juggins. Juggins, right? Juggins. Juggins, yeah. Juggins. I got to get the ball to Jerry Judy. I got to get the ball to Unjuku. whatever I got to work with, that hand I got, when you play blackjack, they give you a hand. I'm trying to beat the dealer.

58:59That's it. I got to work with what I got. I guess I got, man, you gave me 14.

59:05Shannon Sharpe:I guess, what you got? You got a nine. I got to hit it.

59:15Hey, that's the beautiful thing about life, though, huh? that's the thing about life we all envision getting the perfect hand but sometimes the car that God deals us they ain't perfect

59:27Shannon Sharpe:he ain't gonna give us 21 every time no and sometimes you might have 21 and the dealer got 21 and you'll be like and you didn't take no insurance out it's a push oh you got oh yeah I got 20 and then he flip over blackjack ooh so you're right there are no perfect scenarios. We make, whatever it is, we make the best out. Because there have been times, hey, you got eight, you got ten, you get three, you get a five, you get another three. Twenty-one. Like, damn, I don't know how I made that hand. And that's what Shadour's going to have to do. You're going to have to wait a couple more weeks because Dylan Gabriel is in there now.

1:00:16Shannon Sharpe:And they're going to give him, you know, three to five weeks. Yeah, I hope he does well. I do too. Look, I can't wish bad, Ocho. I've been in that situation, Ocho. I was the third. Hold on. Clarence K, Orson, Burr. I was the fourth tight end, Ocho. God damn it. Fourth. Every tight end on the roster got hurt. Hold on. You was fourth? Fourth. First of all, I was the fifth receiver. So that's why I was the fifth receiver. Yes. Hey, you were sorry. Hey, I was a special team, man. I was a special team, Ocho. That's my job. Now, hey, give them a good look at practice. Right. Special team, go down there, do what I need to do.

1:01:04Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. How everybody, all the tight ends, get hurt. Yeah. I'm the biggest wide receiver. but at that point in time Ocho I'm already down I came in I weighed 221 by that time I'm like 212 what tight end you what wide receiver you know Ocho can go play a tight end even in today's game when they don't really block like that at 212 yeah that's very undersized that's very undersized hell I did shit when I came in as a rookie I was 212 so it was a situation like and when Dan they send for me to come talk to Dan I think I'm gonna get cut because Ocho and coach calls you they say, hey, Dan want to see you in his office.

1:01:44Shannon Sharpe:And you just had a meeting. What you, man? I'm going to tell my, what I'm going to tell Libby what? What I'm going to tell Spanky? Damn. Everybody out back and just, Ocho, everything going through my head. Yeah, I know them ends are back home going to be, yeah, I told you. I knew it wasn't going to last long. Damn.

1:02:03Shannon Sharpe:He could tell I was nervous, Ocho. I'm like, that's a good man. Coach. Hey, Shannon, come on in. No, I'm good. I can hear you out here.

1:02:20Shannon Sharpe:Hey. He said, what do you think about switching positions? We can think about moving you to tight end. I said, OK. He said, I said, you going to throw me the ball? He's like, yeah, you know, you got to learn to play. but yeah, we'll get you the ball. I said, okay.

1:02:44Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, my heart was beating so fast. Yeah. So, hey, now I ain't into wide receiver meeting no more Ocho. I'm with the tight ends. Tight ends, yeah. And just like that, halfway through the season, boom. Exit interview, Ocho, we were 5-11 that year. he said hey Coach Reed tell me I go to his office he said you did really good but hey need you to get a little stronger put a little weight on hey we think you could be really good we think you could be really good he's like man I said okay

1:03:24Shannon Sharpe:man I hit the weight man so that's what hey Chador I don't know when this opportunity is going to present itself. But when it presents itself, and I'm sure your father has told you this, when the opportunity presents itself,

1:03:46Shannon Sharpe:sometimes when opportunity presents itself, Ocho, grumblers complain about the noise. Don't worry about it. Seize the moment, bro. What that was, you said? Opportunity, when it knocks, grumbler complains about the noise. Man, who that knock? That's opportunity. Gone. Don't worry about it. Hold on. You were Sanders. Realize that. Hang your hat on that. All else fails. Go back. Who am I? What am I? How did I become this? Where did I come from? Hey, boy, that was a good one there, boy. When opportunity presents itself, grumble us. When opportunity knocks. Oh, yeah. Knock, knock, knock, knock, knock.

1:04:27When opportunity.

1:04:28Shannon Sharpe:Man, who that knocking on my door? What you want? That was opportunity. Knock it. and you complaining about the noise. Oh, that's tough. That's like a battle rap bar right there. I'm going to use that. I'm going to use that. That was a good one. All right, Ocho, check this out. CJ Stryle was asked about improving and explosiveness. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Being 23, I'm not fully in my grown man body all the way yet. I'm still growing every year. And I just think like I got to just continue to be hard on myself about not only just lifting weights, but eating the right foods. Like that's been a big thing, too.

1:05:11Shannon Sharpe:So, yeah, that that's just a thing where I think the explosiveness comes from like being better on my diet, being better with, you know, stretching. And like, I feel like I'm getting old, so I got I'm not I'm not as quick as I used to be. I was watching my high school stuff a couple of days ago. I was I was like 180 and I was rolling. or not no more. But yeah, I try to just be better with that stuff so I can run fast. All right. You ain't play. I mean, it's hard for you to play 180. Hey, you can't take them legs. No, you can't. But I don't like what he said in the interview. What he said? I don't like what he said in the interview.

1:05:51I got to watch some of the things I eat. I got to change my diet. Let me finish. Let me finish. I got to change my diet, you know, and help. No. No, the food you consume has nothing to do with your explosion. When you were 180 in high school, of course you're faster. So what you need to do in the off season is you work your lower extremities. You work your lower extremities to have that explosiveness where you felt much faster when you were 180 in high school. Also, the competition you're playing against is much faster than the competition you played against when you were in high school. So it makes you feel like you're not as quick or as fast or as explosive.

1:06:28him. No, the people around you are just that much faster. That's all. Ain't nothing wrong with you. Boy, you're 23 years old. What? Don't let them people brainwash you, too. Talk about some diet. I can make sure you never get hurt again. You hear me? Houston, right down the street from me. I'm a nutritionist. I got a 17-week plan that'll take you out this world. What? Stop playing, man. Don't let them... That's a 17-week plan that'll take you out the league,

1:06:54Shannon Sharpe:CJ. Don't you call, Locho. Hey, Stryke, I'm telling you, I'm a nutritionist. I got my license. I'm a dietician. I got everything you need. Man, that man ain't got a driver's license. He got a fishing license. CJ Stryke, come holler at your boy in the offseason. Don't holler at him, CJ. Shit. Hey, all that. Man, say he got, he old. Man, 23, boy. If you old at 23, I sure hate to see you at 33. He's mistaken. He's mistaking how he looked in high school and how explosive he felt against the competition. Yeah. How many of them guys that you played against in high school in the NFL? Because all them guys that you play against now in the NFL.

1:07:40Hey, it's a different ballgame. Hey, Unc, you got linemen, 300, 290, 1-4-5, man.

1:07:48Shannon Sharpe:Yep. Yep. Come on, man. So, of course, you feel that way, but that's not it. It's an illusion. it's in your mind. C.J. Stroud, I can get you down to a 4-3. I can get you down to a 4-3. Come on down there to my track program. He ain't getting down to a 4-3. C.J., you're not getting down to a 4-3. I'm telling you. Hey, I have C.J. Stroud out of there like Lamar Jackson. No, you're not. I need three months. Because Lamar Jackson been fast all his life. C.J. Stroud ain't been fast. C.J. Stroud been fast by his standard. But by being fast, Lamar Jackson been fast his whole life. Lamar Jackson was fast in high school.

1:08:30Shannon Sharpe:He was fast in junior high school. He was fast in college. He fast in NFL. Listen to me. I'm not saying I can get him Lamar Jackson fast, but I can get him in arm's reach and arm's length of being just as elusive, not as fast, but fast enough to where he doesn't feel he's overwhelmed by the NFL talent. That's what he wants to end. Yeah, Victor with Miyama's arm. They this long. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you. I got a good program for all them boys. No, you don't. A home World Cup only happens once in a lifetime, and we are not missing a second. I'm Castle 1021. On the 1021 podcast, me and the crew break down every match like it's personal.

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